I'm 71now when I was 12 years old, I sent away for an electric welder advertised in the back of old car magazines, FOURWAY WELDER CO. Chicago, $14.95 !!, it came with a carbon arc torch, I burned up every thing in sight, then I finally figured how to use it to bend metal, make holes, braze and weld that carbon arc torch puts a LOT of heat out but it was fun, like your channel.
I fully expected this story to end with how most stories of children ordering things from the back of magazines ends. With a pair if "X ray specs" and down $0.30.
@@georgeh9967 The 4-Way Arc Welder was a simple box with resistance coils in it that every 13 year old kid like me wanted in 1960's. Ran on 115V. I saved for months to buy one. Used it to braze together mini-bike frames based on plans in Mechanics Illustrated. Still have the arc torch...somewhere. Replaced it with a 50 AMP model from Monkey Wards in 70's. Still a faithful servant. Finding hard carbons are a problem. Gouging sticks are too soft and don't focus flame. WARNING: The arc intensity can not be emphasised or stressed enough! The UV intensity / radiation is multiples of submerged arc or TIG welding. I now have the basal cell cancer scars as witness. Good tool for its applications with experience and heavy leathers for shielding.
Got my arc torch with my first Lincoln ac 225 welder in 1966 when I was 15 and still have it. Used it many times to heat rusted and frozen bolt nuts especially on rear shocks where I didn't want to use an open flame torch. What you do is have the welder off and set to about 125 amps, make good contact on each side of of the nut with the carbon arc rods, flip the welder switch on and turn off when the nut is cherry red. Do not remove rods from nut till welder is off and you will not have an arc or open flame. That is why I used it on rear shocks by the gas tank if I couldn't split or chisel the nut off. Like all your videos , thanks Ed K. Cleve. Oh
Back in the 70’s and early 80’s, a slightly different torch was sold under the names of CRAFTSMAN, MONTGAMERY WARD, PENNCRAFT and GENERAL ELECTRTIC: I believe the manufacturer was CLARK. This was a 50 amp welder the size of a shoe box. You would just plug it to 120 volts and the 6013 rods were for welding and the carbon electrodes for the torch. The apparatus was for the home mechanic or DIY. Those welders are obsolete by now, but they might get you out of a jam if that’s all you have. Nice video. Two thumbs up!
Many years ago when I was about 13 I remember putting together something like this from some plans in an old DIU book. The carbon rods were the electrodes cut out from a couple of D-cell batteries. Each end was connected to some electrical wire and the ends of the wire were connected in series to my mother's iron. It produced a nice arc with that crackling sound. I'm surprised I didn't go blind or electrocute myself!
Another use for these carbon rods was to generate high intensity light in movie film projectors many years ago. They didn't sharpen the rods though. They would just burn down during the movie and need replaced. I had a job in the Air Force where I would visit the base movie booths and take air samples to ensure the fumes released weren't too high for the projectionist's safety.
Very timely post. I cleaned out my garage several days ago and found my old carbon arc torch from probably 30 years ago. I really had forgotten how to use it. After watching your video I will play with mine some just for nostalgia sake.
Those carbon rods will be around forever... i use them for Arc-air gouging, works great in some cases rather than torch or plasma. They also make flat carbons too. Im sure there are videos about it
I've brazed with a couple of them over the years, and because of the cost of gas kit and the fact that I only have a very occasional need for brazing, I will be getting another one soon. It will be handy for heating stuff, too. Some of the old methods are still good.
I just found a slider style torch and a couple of dozen rods and I didn't know what it was but the price was right . thank you very much for educating me , nice vid .
Thanks for showing this, My dad and sister gave me a small 110v welder back in the 1980s, it came with real cheap attachments for this kind of use, I never did use it for that. I knew how this worked, but have never seen it.
Thanks buddy! Exactly the information I was looking for, as I just picked up this exact arc torch for 10 bucks from the classifieds and had no idea how to use it. Much appreciated.
It's brutal but so effective and a good standby if you run out of gas for your normal torch :-D. That hole was better than ive seen with a gas torch. A carbon rod plated with copper for connection and strength, quite clever really :-D. Old tech is quite impressive.
I can tell you that been using this type of torch simply because it is so cheap to run. Braze with this for years. That is how I was taught by an old time welder. I also have a Lincoln ac buzz box 225 welder. But mine has the top corners cut at 45 degrees so the top of machine is not so square. Had this welder since 1970 delivered to my door from J. C Whitney company when I was ten years old. The cost was $69.99 including shipping cost. This welder works flawlessly. And one more thing, made in USA. Now that is something that will not happen ever again. Nice demonstration Dony too.
@victoryfirst2878 he said his was made in the USA and that will never happen again but it will happen again when trump gets back in office. Trump 2024!!! 🥳
nice video. i have found many uses for a carbon arc torch over the years, mainly brazing, broken lawnmower handle etc. these torches heat to arround %3000 c not to be sniffed at, they dont need sharpening, just burn the bastards. but dont make the mistake i made years ago, i wore goggles instead of full mask, and the skin fell off my face for a week !
Fixed a cracked Ford Jubilee block with one of these back in the day...preheated with the torch and then used a high nickel rod. Tried brazing, but it’s hard with this setup.
Great video! I’ve heard about those, but never seen one working. I use a welding lens stuck to the front of my old cell phone (galaxy s4) camera to film arc shots.
Hi I have a torch like this and I use it a lot. I can still get the rods here in Argentina but once when they were not available I used carbon rods for movie projectors. Thanks for a nice video,
Cool video. My father was a welder for over 50 years. I will share this to see if he's ever used one. We trained on FD special team with an exothermic torch. Very crude but could blast through a guardrail in no time. Really long rods.
Kind of the same Principle as a arc gouger but the air went inside the tube instead of on the outside that's basically what this guy has here is a arc gouger with no air
Awesome! I got a great deal on an old Lincoln AC225 and it came with an accessory that I had no idea what it was. Now I know!! Mine has a telescoping handle rather than a thumb knob set up like yours.
Like your demo on carbon arc.Agree hard to direct heat and flame very bright may try a 10 lens in my mask,did not know you had to sharpen the ends.Don,t feel too bad,now after short practice, even my welding instructor found it difficult to control.I have successfully corrected distortion on a 10 mm steel plate by careful heating so thank you for encouraging me to put it to that use,it worked quick and cheap .Lincoln offer a guide on using this-downloadable.Thank you.
Very nice video!! I found one in the stash room today. I ´ve seen it in action many years ago..could hardly figure out the name of this tool. Now i know what i hold in my hands. Thank you. Greetings from Germany.
I acquired a vintage 50 amp welder that also has carbon arc torches. Have been interested in giving the carbon arc torches a try but am not sure for such a low amp device what rods I should get for it. The ones you used in the video appear to be pretty thick so I am not sure they would work well in a low amp welder. Great video! Thanks for the tips.
Thank you for sharing this! Not long ago I picked up an old AC stick welder and I just realized on the front it mentioned carbon arc torch, ofwhich I had no idea what that was. So I looked it up and found your channel very interesting I think I will try this on old rusted bolts as I don't have anything more powerful than a propane torch.
I have the same one it was left to me by my grandfather. I do not have a oxi torch but the arc torch has helped me in a lot of ways. I use it off a 110 welder that was left to me also.
Nice this is the second time ive seen this style of torch in use my grand father had radiator shop here in florida and he used it to brass a semi radiator when his regular torch broke
.....oxypropane worked well for brazing and is of course a lower cost . I ve also used carbon arc for brazing but cos you gotta have arc welding helmet it means you can't perceive those subtle colour hues . For jobs requiring finesse you gotta have the gas flame . I notice you didn't apply flux , sure the rods are coated but gotta apply flux for a quicker job .
That was a great video Don. I have never seen this kind of arc heating or welding before. Those rods remind me of arc movie projectors. Projectors are using xenon arc bulbs now. I wonder if led technology will be replacing xenon? Happy Spring :-)
If those are gouging rods, there said to be not the same composition as carbon arc torch rods (so likely don't function as well as carbon arc rods) which are no longer available in USA unless they were made decades ago and show up from time to time on ebay.
A brilliant video Don, thank you for posting, I have one question, does it have be A/C or can it be run from say a battery & changer on D/C. Many thanks. !!
I had one of these things 30/40 years ago....used it a lot....then I got access to Oxy/Acett gear and it was never used again.....around 6mths ago I found it gathering dust.....and thought....never need this again and chucked it in the bin.....a few months later I no longer has access to gas welding equipment.....and needed to braze something.....I could have kicked myself. As luck would have it I spotted one on ebay 3 weeks ago.....its mine now.....found carbon rods on ebay for very little money.....so I believe its a 3000c heat source. The one you have there Lincoln I think it is....looks real nice quality...as you would expect from old made in USA equipment.....mine is made by SIP in England. It comes with 2 spot welding tips.....my old one did not have these....wonder if anybody has any experience of spot welding with them on one of these torches.
also , AC burns the rod evenly , DC you will need to adjust the - rod more . I still use mine with a 120 Mastercraft Buzz box . if you want a more pin point heat , only use one rod and other clamp to your work piece , heats up fast , but you can use a lower amp , like 70 and heats nuts in seconds red hot .. good vid , thanks
Not sure what kind of camera you're using; if it accepts screw-on filters, get any low-priced UV or lens guard filter that fits it, and to that filter, epoxy a piece of welding glass over the outer ring. If it's something small like a GoPro, you could just put it behind a welding mask. You'll need to cover the back with a shroud to keep the camera from picking up backlit reflections off the welding glass.
Your idea with the UV filter is great, to get better results you need a manual apearture mode on the camera, if the camera doesn't have a manual apearture setting it will try to compensate for the lost light in the filter and hunt the variation of the arc intensity, got this from expereince, though... ;)
Dude I began watching this thinking I would get a good visual example of this very old technology: as I watched I kept thinking wow this is cool……right up until you said you used brasing rod on GAS TANKS. Oh please I want to see that video. Ya RIGHT!!!! POW TO THE MOON Alice!!! Like really taking a torch to a gas tank can no be safe on any level; but I’d watch the video that’s for sure.
What diameter rods are you using, 1/4" or 3/8"? I cant tell and I'm just curious. From old documentation on that specific torch it says about 60-90 amps for 1/4" rods. However Arcair says their 1/4" rods are good between 300 and 400 amps, but that is meant for gouging with a single rod as intended.
Those carbon arc copper coated electrodes arent going away any time soon they are still used everyday for carbon arc gouging for removing large amounts of metal
donyboy73 i just realized something while at work the black part of the carbon electrode is made from graphite the same shit in pencils so if u had a large enough pencil sharpener it would be way smoother than grinding and sharper
I found a few boxes of carbon arc lamp rods for an old spotlight recently at a place we are rewiring, the owner gave them to us and tried to give up the spotlamp too but I didnt want that. i dont have 3 phase power to run it besides it was heavy aF too.. There ust be over 2000 of those rods pre sharpened total. I know I can arc gouge with them or use them in a DIY arc furnace or actually run DC on them and light them up as a lamp..
I still use a carbon torch on my mobile rig, air carbon arc and a twin carbon arc same as shown here. The rods they make today are garbage, you wanna get rid of any of those rods the guy gave you?
@@benjaminelam7613 have you been able to find a source for the rods? The AC gouging electrodes from airgas sounds they they should work but I don't want to spend 250 just to find out
@@ewlyon dont waste your money on those esab ac rods airgas sells..they are a joke. I have not a source, I buy/restore/ repair/sell cutting and welding equipment and buy them whenever right come across them. I'm not adverse to selling some what size did you need?
Here's a tip for you vs grinder we used small pencil sharpeners. justfly the rods back you don't even have to take them out of the holder. freaking hot for a while use your gloves!!!
You never used a welder they were sold in car maintenance mags to run off a car battery, I brazed up all my old Mini van years ago with carbon rods, this technique needs to be revisited with modern tech as we have the cheap electronics now to assist
.....what do you know, ,I've got exactly the same gadget here in Australia . So it's pre war huh . mine's even got the carbon rods of the period also used in stage lighting,.the carbon arc stage lighting set I also have I do know is very very early .
Interesting video glad I found you! I have another use for the arc welder. I am going to try and use it as the power to melt gold in a kiln. Instead of using rods, you can use diode’s from a heavy-duty 6 V battery. Anyway which appreciated, and I’ll let you know how it works!
great job Don. That whole was cut like a pro buddy. I think a filter for welding on your camera would be great. Thanks for sharing this old technology with us. Have a great week. God Bless!!!
Donny as far as a filter for your camera use a $29.99 auto darkening welding helmet from Harbor Freight...or I guess Princess Auto since your in Canada...lol
@@donyboy73 Thanks for that advice. Ive not used the carbon arc rods method and I actually cant wait to try. Its because of videos like this helping others. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge for free on here it really is amazingly kind of you and very much appreciated!
Well that's amazing it's far more torch-like than I thought it would be when I noticed there was no pressurized air.
I'm 71now when I was 12 years old, I sent away for an electric welder advertised in the back of old car magazines, FOURWAY WELDER CO. Chicago, $14.95 !!, it came with a carbon arc torch, I burned up every thing in sight, then I finally figured how to use it to bend metal, make holes, braze and weld that carbon arc torch puts a LOT of heat out but it was fun, like your channel.
I fully expected this story to end with how most stories of children ordering things from the back of magazines ends.
With a pair if "X ray specs" and down $0.30.
is that the one advertised as running of a 12v battery
@@georgeh9967 The 4-Way Arc Welder was a simple box with resistance coils in it that every 13 year old kid like me wanted in 1960's. Ran on 115V. I saved for months to buy one. Used it to braze together mini-bike frames based on plans in Mechanics Illustrated. Still have the arc torch...somewhere. Replaced it with a 50 AMP model from Monkey Wards in 70's. Still a faithful servant. Finding hard carbons are a problem. Gouging sticks are too soft and don't focus flame. WARNING: The arc intensity can not be emphasised or stressed enough! The UV intensity / radiation is multiples of submerged arc or TIG welding. I now have the basal cell cancer scars as witness. Good tool for its applications with experience and heavy leathers for shielding.
Why would anyone with any decency and self respect give a thumbs down to Don for sharing his knowledge?
Got my arc torch with my first Lincoln ac 225 welder in 1966 when I was 15 and still have it. Used it many times to heat rusted and frozen bolt nuts especially on rear shocks where I didn't want to use an open flame torch. What you do is have the welder off and set to about 125 amps, make good contact on each side of of the nut with the carbon arc rods, flip the welder switch on and turn off when the nut is cherry red. Do not remove rods from nut till welder is off and you will not have an arc or open flame. That is why I used it on rear shocks by the gas tank if I couldn't split or chisel the nut off. Like all your videos , thanks Ed K. Cleve. Oh
Back in the 70’s and early 80’s, a slightly different torch was sold under the names of CRAFTSMAN, MONTGAMERY WARD, PENNCRAFT and GENERAL ELECTRTIC: I believe the manufacturer was CLARK. This was a 50 amp welder the size of a shoe box. You would just plug it to 120 volts and the 6013 rods were for welding and the carbon electrodes for the torch. The apparatus was for the home mechanic or DIY. Those welders are obsolete by now, but they might get you out of a jam if that’s all you have. Nice video. Two thumbs up!
Many years ago when I was about 13 I remember putting together something like this from some plans in an old DIU book. The carbon rods were the electrodes cut out from a couple of D-cell batteries. Each end was connected to some electrical wire and the ends of the wire were connected in series to my mother's iron. It produced a nice arc with that crackling sound. I'm surprised I didn't go blind or electrocute myself!
I really like this method fella. Really crude but works really well Sir.
Dony is such a nice down to earth guy. Your channel is gonna take off man. Seriously.
thanks bro
Another use for these carbon rods was to generate high intensity light in movie film projectors many years ago. They didn't sharpen the rods though. They would just burn down during the movie and need replaced. I had a job in the Air Force where I would visit the base movie booths and take air samples to ensure the fumes released weren't too high for the projectionist's safety.
They also used them in WW2 for spotlights for anti-aircraft guns at night
@@flyback_driverno
Very timely post. I cleaned out my garage several days ago and found my old carbon arc torch from probably 30 years ago. I really had forgotten how to use it. After watching your video I will play with mine some just for nostalgia sake.
Those carbon rods will be around forever... i use them for Arc-air gouging, works great in some cases rather than torch or plasma. They also make flat carbons too. Im sure there are videos about it
I bet the flat gouging carbon rods would produce a more accurate arc in this application.
I've brazed with a couple of them over the years, and because of the cost of gas kit and the fact that I only have a very occasional need for brazing, I will be getting another one soon. It will be handy for heating stuff, too.
Some of the old methods are still good.
I just found a slider style torch and a couple of dozen rods and I didn't know what it was but the price was right . thank you very much for educating me , nice vid .
Thanks for showing this, My dad and sister gave me a small 110v welder back in the 1980s, it came with real cheap attachments for this kind of use, I never did use it for that. I knew how this worked, but have never seen it.
Thanks buddy! Exactly the information I was looking for, as I just picked up this exact arc torch for 10 bucks from the classifieds and had no idea how to use it. Much appreciated.
good deal for $10!
I need one! 😉
It's brutal but so effective and a good standby if you run out of gas for your normal torch :-D.
That hole was better than ive seen with a gas torch.
A carbon rod plated with copper for connection and strength, quite clever really :-D.
Old tech is quite impressive.
I remember when you did the last video on this torch. You freed stuck snowblower augers with it. It may be old technology, but it still works!
I can tell you that been using this type of torch simply because it is so cheap to run. Braze with this for years. That is how I was taught by an old time welder. I also have a Lincoln ac buzz box 225 welder. But mine has the top corners cut at 45 degrees so the top of machine is not so square. Had this welder since 1970 delivered to my door from J. C Whitney company when I was ten years old. The cost was $69.99 including shipping cost. This welder works flawlessly. And one more thing, made in USA. Now that is something that will not happen ever again. Nice demonstration Dony too.
it will happen again when trump comes back 🫡
@@Chevroletcelebrity The comments are about a torch type. Stay with the program
@victoryfirst2878 he said his was made in the USA and that will never happen again but it will happen again when trump gets back in office. Trump 2024!!! 🥳
nice video. i have found many uses for a carbon arc torch over the years, mainly brazing, broken lawnmower handle etc. these torches heat to arround %3000 c not to be sniffed at, they dont need sharpening, just burn the bastards. but dont make the mistake i made years ago, i wore goggles instead of full mask, and the skin fell off my face for a week !
Fixed a cracked Ford Jubilee block with one of these back in the day...preheated with the torch and then used a high nickel rod. Tried brazing, but it’s hard with this setup.
Ive used these with air hook up. This is old school ive never seen a set up like this. Great video!
Great video! I’ve heard about those, but never seen one working. I use a welding lens stuck to the front of my old cell phone (galaxy s4) camera to film arc shots.
Hi I have a torch like this and I use it a lot. I can still get the rods here in Argentina but once when they were not available I used carbon rods for movie projectors. Thanks for a nice video,
Cool video. My father was a welder for over 50 years. I will share this to see if he's ever used one. We trained on FD special team with an exothermic torch. Very crude but could blast through a guardrail in no time. Really long rods.
I believe what you're referring to the slice torch what we call it had to have a lot of air pressure with it right the tube was Halo?
Kind of the same Principle as a arc gouger but the air went inside the tube instead of on the outside that's basically what this guy has here is a arc gouger with no air
Thanks for demonstrating this. Very cool in deed! Always great to have multiple options for heating stuff up!
Awesome! I got a great deal on an old Lincoln AC225 and it came with an accessory that I had no idea what it was. Now I know!!
Mine has a telescoping handle rather than a thumb knob set up like yours.
Like your demo on carbon arc.Agree hard to direct heat and flame very bright may try a 10 lens in my mask,did not know you had to sharpen the ends.Don,t feel too bad,now after short practice, even my welding instructor found it difficult to control.I have successfully corrected distortion on a 10 mm steel plate by careful heating so thank you for encouraging me to put it to that use,it worked quick and cheap .Lincoln offer a guide on using this-downloadable.Thank you.
Very nice video!! I found one in the stash room today. I ´ve seen it in action many years ago..could hardly figure out the name of this tool. Now i know what i hold in my hands. Thank you. Greetings from Germany.
I acquired a vintage 50 amp welder that also has carbon arc torches. Have been interested in giving the carbon arc torches a try but am not sure for such a low amp device what rods I should get for it. The ones you used in the video appear to be pretty thick so I am not sure they would work well in a low amp welder.
Great video! Thanks for the tips.
Another comment said 75 amps for quarter inch to 5/16 rods
So I would aim for under a quarter inch.
Thank you for sharing this! Not long ago I picked up an old AC stick welder and I just realized on the front it mentioned carbon arc torch, ofwhich I had no idea what that was. So I looked it up and found your channel very interesting I think I will try this on old rusted bolts as I don't have anything more powerful than a propane torch.
Great job Don and thanks to show us how this classic tool works 😃😉
Awesome sir I am a welding student it is really very useful
This is a nice update to that video you did in 2009 covering carbon arc torches.
How long have you had this welder Donyboy ??? What is the duty cycle of the machine ??
I have the same one it was left to me by my grandfather. I do not have a oxi torch but the arc torch has helped me in a lot of ways. I use it off a 110 welder that was left to me also.
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Nice this is the second time ive seen this style of torch in use my grand father had radiator shop here in florida and he used it to brass a semi radiator when his regular torch broke
.....oxypropane worked well for brazing and is of course a lower cost . I ve also used carbon arc for brazing but cos you gotta have arc welding helmet it means you can't perceive those subtle colour hues . For jobs requiring finesse you gotta have the gas flame . I notice you didn't apply flux , sure the rods are coated but gotta apply flux for a quicker job .
Always enjoy videos on these.
Never seen these used....thank you for sharing.
Never seen that before and I'm old ... thanks!
What a classic!
Put your camera behind a pair of welding goggles
That was a great video Don. I have never seen this kind of arc heating or welding before. Those rods remind me of arc movie projectors. Projectors are using xenon arc bulbs now. I wonder if led technology will be replacing xenon? Happy Spring :-)
I have one of those , I never use it ..LOL.. Just a keep sake ! Great demo Don!!
If those are gouging rods, there said to be not the same composition as carbon arc torch rods (so likely don't function as well as carbon arc rods) which are no longer available in USA unless they were made decades ago and show up from time to time on ebay.
Thats really neat Donny, never seen that before.
That is off the chain...never knew that...thanks for the video...
Neutral density filter might work. You can get them quite dark and there are even adjustable ones that may work as well.
A brilliant video Don, thank you for posting, I have one question, does it have be A/C or can it be run from say a battery & changer on D/C. Many thanks. !!
Iv never seen someone take such good care of a gouging rod.
Used carbon arc rods back in the early '60's for brazing. They're great for heating up rusted hardware by just holding the rods on the object.
I had one of these things 30/40 years ago....used it a lot....then I got access to Oxy/Acett gear and it was never used again.....around 6mths ago I found it gathering dust.....and thought....never need this again and chucked it in the bin.....a few months later I no longer has access to gas welding equipment.....and needed to braze something.....I could have kicked myself.
As luck would have it I spotted one on ebay 3 weeks ago.....its mine now.....found carbon rods on ebay for very little money.....so I believe its a 3000c heat source.
The one you have there Lincoln I think it is....looks real nice quality...as you would expect from old made in USA equipment.....mine is made by SIP in England.
It comes with 2 spot welding tips.....my old one did not have these....wonder if anybody has any experience of spot welding with them on one of these torches.
Can i use battery rods instead ???
Are the copper clad carbon rods, the same rods used for gouging ?
also , AC burns the rod evenly , DC you will need to adjust the - rod more . I still use mine with a 120 Mastercraft Buzz box . if you want a more pin point heat , only use one rod and other clamp to your work piece , heats up fast , but you can use a lower amp , like 70 and heats nuts in seconds red hot .. good vid , thanks
Thanks for the video. I have seen a guy aluminium solder a hole in a soda can. He was using very low amperage on his welder.
Wow that thing is insane.
carbon arc welding suppose to be lens shade 14. stick arc welding shade 11
Nice Oldschool tool you have there👍
Not sure what kind of camera you're using; if it accepts screw-on filters, get any low-priced UV or lens guard filter that fits it, and to that filter, epoxy a piece of welding glass over the outer ring.
If it's something small like a GoPro, you could just put it behind a welding mask. You'll need to cover the back with a shroud to keep the camera from picking up backlit reflections off the welding glass.
good idea, thanks
Your idea with the UV filter is great, to get better results you need a manual apearture mode on the camera, if the camera doesn't have a manual apearture setting it will try to compensate for the lost light in the filter and hunt the variation of the arc intensity, got this from expereince, though... ;)
Interesting. Thanks for the video.
I have one of these and never knew what it was. There were times it would have saved me.
Good video on old school tech!
What size rods are you using? Great video!!
Dude I began watching this thinking I would get a good visual example of this very old technology: as I watched I kept thinking wow this is cool……right up until you said you used brasing rod on GAS TANKS. Oh please I want to see that video. Ya RIGHT!!!! POW TO THE MOON Alice!!! Like really taking a torch to a gas tank can no be safe on any level; but I’d watch the video that’s for sure.
fill the tank with water to reduce the air volume. you can also purge the air out with any non flammable gas.
Carburetors are a good candidate for brazing or anything made from light metal. A Lawn Tractor hood for instance.
Nice Video, it's just what I wanted to know.. Thanks .!
Thanks for showing this device, I've never heard of it.
However, can one use a TIG welder for the same purpose?
yes in some cases the tig torch would work
carbons should stick out only about 2" use appx' 75 amp's for 1/4 to 5/16 rods
Don when you made a hole in the steel you held the metal with the other hand. Is that just pure heat at end of torch rod????
yes pure heat, very very hot!
Does it work with tungsten electrodes ? (they are easier to find than carbon ones)
You can use the torch using a battery charger or a 12 volt battery very handy
Try a regular old coat hanger to braze with I bet it will work.
What diameter rods are you using, 1/4" or 3/8"? I cant tell and I'm just curious. From old documentation on that specific torch it says about 60-90 amps for 1/4" rods. However Arcair says their 1/4" rods are good between 300 and 400 amps, but that is meant for gouging with a single rod as intended.
1/4"
Those carbon arc copper coated electrodes arent going away any time soon they are still used everyday for carbon arc gouging for removing large amounts of metal
good to know
donyboy73 i just realized something while at work the black part of the carbon electrode is made from graphite the same shit in pencils so if u had a large enough pencil sharpener it would be way smoother than grinding and sharper
if the heat would be directed to a graphite crucible would it destroy it?
Its 2:40am where I am in long island NY. good video dony.
good morning from Ontario canada
I found a few boxes of carbon arc lamp rods for an old spotlight recently at a place we are rewiring, the owner gave them to us and tried to give up the spotlamp too but I didnt want that. i dont have 3 phase power to run it besides it was heavy aF too.. There ust be over 2000 of those rods pre sharpened total. I know I can arc gouge with them or use them in a DIY arc furnace or actually run DC on them and light them up as a lamp..
I still use a carbon torch on my mobile rig, air carbon arc and a twin carbon arc same as shown here. The rods they make today are garbage, you wanna get rid of any of those rods the guy gave you?
Learned about carbon arc search lights in the navy at electrician’s mate school but never saw one aboard ship.
@@benjaminelam7613 have you been able to find a source for the rods? The AC gouging electrodes from airgas sounds they they should work but I don't want to spend 250 just to find out
@@ewlyon dont waste your money on those esab ac rods airgas sells..they are a joke. I have not a source, I buy/restore/ repair/sell cutting and welding equipment and buy them whenever right come across them. I'm not adverse to selling some what size did you need?
@@benjaminelam7613 1/4" or 5/16" would be about right
Here's a tip for you vs grinder we used small pencil sharpeners. justfly the rods back you don't even have to take them out of the holder. freaking hot for a while use your gloves!!!
thanks, good idea
That is in fact quite a neat hole!
Hey what is best way to get ahold of you to ask a question unrelated to this video?
You never used a welder they were sold in car maintenance mags to run off a car battery, I brazed up all my old Mini van years ago with carbon rods, this technique needs to be revisited with modern tech as we have the cheap electronics now to assist
With fluxed-core aluminum rods, you could probably fix cast stuff for less.
.....what do you know, ,I've got exactly the same gadget here in Australia . So it's pre war huh . mine's even got the carbon rods of the period also used in stage lighting,.the carbon arc stage lighting set I also have I do know is very very early .
Great !
Use a welding mask glass over the lens of the camera
can it be used for aluminum?
yes but very carefully
I could suggest a number 10 or 11 shade , shud be fine
You can still buy them they are called arc welding brazing torches in the UK £30 from Ebay.
where to get one?
Interesting video glad I found you! I have another use for the arc welder. I am going to try and use it as the power to melt gold in a kiln. Instead of using rods, you can use diode’s from a heavy-duty 6 V battery. Anyway which appreciated, and I’ll let you know how it works!
i got welders flash thx don ....lol
great job Don. That whole was cut like a pro buddy. I think a filter for welding on your camera would be great. Thanks for sharing this old technology with us. Have a great week. God Bless!!!
Donny as far as a filter for your camera use a $29.99 auto darkening welding helmet from Harbor Freight...or I guess Princess Auto since your in Canada...lol
so this is good for thin metal like exhausts?
not really
@@donyboy73 Thanks for that advice. Ive not used the carbon arc rods method and I actually cant wait to try. Its because of videos like this helping others. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge for free on here it really is amazingly kind of you and very much appreciated!
nice job one this video
To welding alumunium? Can?
no
Wow! I had no idea these existed. Scary as fuck.
Cool!
I have one and use it. never ground the tips though.
Interesting
Don't breathe the fumes while brazing. This torch can easily boil out the zinc which is toxic.
Which zinc? I didn't see brass or galvanised.