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Why the Chrysler World Engine is a Failure
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2023
- Here's a full teardown of the Dodge / Jeep 2.0L 4 cylinder World engine and how it works!
The Chrysler World engine was co-developed with Mitsubishi and Hyundai. It uses aluminum block and heads with an open deck cooling design. They were most popularly found in the Dodge Caliber, Jeep Patriot and Jeep Renegade.
The engine in this video was working when pulled out of a Dodge Caliber. However it shows some evidence of engine wear in the bearings and pistons and a general lack of maintenance. There were a lot of areas where Chrysler could have improved upon, such as using less plastics around the engine and fastener coatings that don't easily rust and strip. This leaves the impression of a failed attempt at a quality engine, despite its simplistic design.
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Usually it’s just a lawnmower or leaf blower but literally demolishing their own house just to disrupt your filming is serious dedication.
😂
No they did a teardown video of the house to see the design flaws of that building.
@@greathey1234 can't even be mad at em at that point lol
Some people seem to prefer going above and beyond.
He's not filming. He's recording.
The reason Stelantis uses so many different size fasteners is to help even out the wear on all your tools.
That is rather courteous of them.
Hahahahaaaa
Good point!
Did Stelantis own Chrysler when the World Engine was developed? The 2.0 world engine was available since 2007, and so was developed even earlier.
@@sepg5084 It was DaimlerChrysler at the time. Mitsubishi also had a hand in development.
No joke...I've been daily driving a Caliber with this engine for the last 11 years so thanks for doing a teardown of one!. Aside from a marginally common issue with the intake runner flaps failing the World Engine really doesn't have any major mechanical issues. It's not the fastest engine nor the most fuel efficient but it HAS proven itself to be pretty reliable.
Also FWIW the World Engine was co-developed with Hyundai *and* Mitsubishi. They all share the same block design but each company designed their own cylinder heads.
Yeah, title is annoying clickbait
The intake runner flaps with electric motor & other parts seems like a more trouble than worth Rube Goldberg contraption. Unless it's cheap & easy to replace. They're using to adjust to get more low end power & high end power instead of a fixed manifold. But it's a 2.0L 4 cyl. seems like they'rd be a better/simpler way to get a little more low & top end power.
@@michaelbrinks8089 Problems with the flaps is generally caused by the motor either failing or developing "sticktion" so it can't move properly. Several were able to clean and relubricate that area to resolve the issue, others just replaced the intake manifold
I´ve had this engine in my old ´07 Sebring and it was very solid and smooth running. Like you said it´s not the fastest but fast enough for daily driving and 185.000 km without major problems. And it can run 200 km/h on the Autobahn ;-)
Thanks for letting me know about that intake issue. I should have ripped it apart and shown more
That engine had infrequent maintenance and lived in the salt belt. Probably had several miles left. Not a bad engine.
It's a good engine, just poorly maintained.
Interesting way to clean the rain gutters out 😁
With an escavator
Is your neighbor doing the architectural equivalent of your teardown videos?
Tearing the house down to see where the builder cut corners on the wiring, plumbing and insulation. Checking for sludge in sewers
Yes! I was watching them destroy it and interesting to see how it was structured
I've had a few different first gen Mini Coopers (Mopar engine) and it's pretty common to trade out the weird stamped metal idler pullies with the plastic ones from this engine, especially when going to a smaller supercharger pulley because the larger plastic idler lets you run the stock belt.
The first gen BMW Mini engine is actually a Neon SOHC 2.0 with reduced bore, bore spacing, and a timing chain rather than a belt.
I had way more fun turning up to Mopar events than BMW ones!
Lol pretty funny. Didn’t know that. Ty for the information!
Cool! I have a (second gen) mini cooper engine teardown coming soon!
I had a co-worker with a caliber. One year, it needed $500 of suspension work. The next year, it was $800 to pass inspection. The following, it needed $1200...that's when he traded it in for a Mazda 3. Design wasn't the only issue, quality wasn't there either.
Looks like rising repair costs was the main focus!
Love these teardowns - to add, the World Engine was a three-way design with Mitsubishi
Im glad you appreciate it!!
Hyundai took the lead in initial engineering and then Mitsubishi and Chrysler fine-tune them and added their own details, heads, accessories, and engine management programs
3 ways are the best!
Love your vids. And your technical explanation and description. Keep them coming.
Another great video that moves along at a smart pace. Very well done!
Thanks!!
I had a 2007 Dodge Caliber with this engine and it ran great. I sold the vehicle before it had too many miles on it as I was concerned about the longevity of the CVT transmission. Suspension and brakes were a problem for me. The tie rod ends had to be replaced at 20,000 miles (I have never seen this happen before) and I had to replace the lower control arm bushings about a year later. I only had about 30,000 miles on the car when I noticed that the brakes would start to squeak when I backed out of the garage in the morning. I had the brakes serviced twice and the noise stopped for a few weeks after each service and then returned. I got annoyed one day and bought a complete set of drums, rotors, pads, and shoes. I installed them at home and the brake noise disappeared, proving that sometimes the parts cannon will get the job done :-). I special ordered my Caliber and I liked driving it, I only wished that the quality was better. I rarely buy American cars as I have had much better luck with Japanese vehicles. Thank you for this engine teardown.
Funny because Mitsubishi in their infinite wisdom decided to use Dodge suspension parts for their Lancer and Outlander. The exact same part failures occur naturally. Tie rods, ball joints, control arm bushings all premature failing.
@@DaDaDo661 Mitsubishi is bottom of the barrel, the joint venture vehicles between Chrysler and Mitsu are 99% Mitsu poor engineering and garbage quality. Look no further than the 3000GT.
@@wildman1137 I didn't say they were high quality. Just better than Dodge. Also for the most part they have more reliable engines
@@DaDaDo661 Mitsubishi is better than nothing, they are absolute garbage. Reliable? Lol their engines are a joke, just like their products.
Agreed. The CVT and rust were the biggest issues for caliber owners
I'm jealous of the nut and bolt assortment you must have by now.
I scrap the hardware like this engine that are either rusty or odd sizes
@@speedkar99 Those odd sizes are the most handy, juts put them in the ugly bin.
I dunno, seems to have held up well enough considering high mileage and clearly less than stellar maintenance, these engines have their issues but they aren't failing left and right, they're pretty reliable all things considered. It's just everything else attached to it and the vehicle that falls apart.
The Chrysler engines of this era are pretty solid, they're just not the most powerful or efficient.
I've said for years. Chrysler is trash. They have 3-4 solid engines. But unfortunately they're in a Chrysler. They have some real shitty ones too, pick a 6.4 hemi, 4.0 v6, 2.7, or my fave, 4.7 v8..
@@PureCountryof91 I've had a lot of good experience with the 4.7. And I've found them to be very reliable with proper maintenance. The 2.7 as well, it's mostly people who don't change their oil who have problems with them as far ad I've seen. Although it's definitely underpowered for the LX body cars.
@@PureCountryof91 The SOHC V6 family of Chrysler engines is pretty reliable compared to the Pentastar of today.
@@flurpoid eh. They're gutless. Even "h/o" models are pretty anemic, even then, as ford and Japan were moving forward with duratec, j,-series the ecotec v6's showed (hah, timing chains) . Basically in 2005 everyone else was doing dohc v6's took Chrysler a bit to catch up. Though , their second generation engines are typically solid at least
😂 Just after you said that they’re “pulling a Volkswagen” with the fastener sizes, I get a VW ad talking about their “quality German engineering.” 😂
Hahah!
"And here we have a mandatory engine hook, for when these fail and have to be taken out." Bruh!!!🤣🤣
321,000 miles on a 2007 2.0 backed by the CVT was still running strong when i put it into a ditch upside down in a snow storm. the CVT went out at 200k and i had it replaced
273,000 on a 2011 2.0 driving the 5-speed. still running strong and delivering 35mpg in the summer. i did a clutch and some bearings in the trans at 200k.
both in Calibers and it seems the transmissions are more a liability than the engine. i dont like them but they have been more than reliable for me in 2 different situations and set ups.
I agree. The CVT and rust take out the calibers
You need to get ahold of the Chrysler 2.7 and 3.7 V6 engines and tear them to bits so we can all laugh at how utterly rubbish they are.
I wish I could! I have a 3.6 Pentastar coming soon though
I find it helps during original assembly to first dip all the bolts in seawater.
Eh, I guess it looks like a decent enough budget engine. Except for those bolts, that is insane.
Designed well. Poor execution
@@speedkar99 sounds like Chrysler
The Mitsubishi 4B11 variant has few changes, like no balance shafts. The Mitsubishi one is a good one, taking into account regular oil changes.
Yep and I don't think it has the intake flaps. The 4b11 is simple. I own one with 300,000km on the odometer. Always synthetic oil
@@DaDaDo661 Mine has only 135K Km.
And the Hyundai is the worse variant !
I have a 4B11 from 2009 with 128000km, never had any issue with it. Full syn changed regularly.
This engine is a rough but reliable workhorse that was put in millions of cars for about a decade. I got my own past 210,000 miles before it started burning oil and it still runs fine with just a little extra between oil changes. Don’t believe this clickbait title these engines are just fine. Any car that has this engine will fail on you well before the engine does
Good point....the cars fail before the engines. I don't like the design of many of these components though.
You should do the 4b11 too, the world, theta and 4b11 are the same design it would be cool to see the differences
Why use the word failure? I'm no fan of modern Chrysler but cannot see anything seriously wrong with the design of that engine and you said several times it was high mileage.
Look at the plastics, design choices and fasteners. This is a cheaply build engine that was otherwise a simple layout
@@speedkar99 That's quite standard anymore. Simple is great, it usually means more reliable.
Makes me realise how beautiful my old engines are (Mazda FE and BMC B-Series...everything solid, everything serviceable.)
Serviceability is a major concern these days
Long time subscriber! Glad you’re still producing content :) And dude I KNEW YOUR channel would grow. I feel very happy for you.
Thanks. It hasn't grown as much as I'd like. Or as other channels
I had a Caliber with the 2.0L World engine. While this was certainly not an era of quality for Chrysler, I don't think I'd give much blame to the engine. Decent horsepower for its size, but my theory on that is that the cam adjusted to produce less torque and prolong CVT life. Result is iffy fuel economy, but it wasn't bad to drive. What was definitely a tragedy concerning this engine is the sound. Winter start up was atrocious, and the exhaust "note" was about as pleasant as a straight piped Civic. All of the legitimate problems with the vehicles involved low quality metal in the suspension, and the disaster that is the electrical system. I really liked the design of the interior. Yeah, cheap hard touch plastics, but 4 cup holders in reach of the driver, two glove boxes, and a power inverter. Pretty cool.
I tend to agree on most points. The engine 's bolt on parts don't scream quality either. It's internals seem well engineered.
The Caliber could've been a fine car if they'd just used the Ultradrive trans instead of that dreadful CVT. Stronger ball joint design would've helped a lot too, but that's just typical Dodge stuff.
I've torn down alot of blown up Honda engines that have rusty fasteners as well. It's common across all brands.
You can really feel the Mopar love in this one
😉
Mopar junk... no love here bud, utter garbage. 🙂I wont even repair that junk anymore..
@@razor6888 The junk couldn’t repair the engine either
The Mitsubishi version of this engine is called the 4B11, and has been in production for about 15 years. It is completely bulletproof- no real issues whatsoever.
The 4B12 is the 2.4L version and is also perfect.
And the Hyundai version is the absolute worse
@@speedkar99 Maybe the NA version? My Genesis has a version very similar to the Mitsubishi version, other than the timing chain issue that the 4b11 also has, I cant really say anything bad about it. Could use balance shafts but other than that it has been great.
I bet your brother doesn't enjoy watching your videos very much. Thanks again for another very informative video. They really made me change my mind about buying many cars.
Nah my brother doesn't watch. What he doesn't know won't hurt him
Engine tear down and house tear down in one video. Perfect world.
A F150 forum member drove a Jeep Compass with this engine over 400,000 miles and he said the engine was still running fine with no oil burning. But the body rusted out to the point he had to give up on it.
The compass and caliber platform had a bad rusting problem
Knock on wood but I have a great 2009 caliber sxt with 120k-I bought it in 2010 used and it still works flawlessly today.😊
2.4 liter? How many miles now?
You are like a teacher who grades manufacturers on their design and production work. It’s AWSOME!!!
Yeah I have more of an engineering background than a technician so I see things a bit differently.
@@speedkar99 Whats the best new car 2024 on the market or best used car of what year in the 2020s to buy that has the most reliable simple to maintain engine that is 4 cylinder no turbo engines that is reliable? Now everyone is trying to push a 2.5 or something like that has a turbo engine that will probably just break that is not reliable? Looking for some type of small cross over that is like the Dodge Journey size. I have a Journey that has 156,500 some miles on it 4 cylinder it has been a reliable car hope to get more miles out of it. Just looking for a backup car if the motor ever goes out on this one. The only issue I have with this one now is the rpm needle goes up and down sometimes at idle. I wonder why it does that I maintain the car as much as possible. Oil changes every 3,000 miles.
2:26 just love the way you just were like "btw neighbor house demo plz ignore"
Haha
But it's true, the background sounds were getting annoying for recording video.
That engine actually looks pretty decent 🤷♂Biggest surprise is they have a bed plate...but don't use it to hold the lower main bearings. That seems like a very odd choice, giving up lots of lower end stiffness. Everything else looks equivalent or better than other 4 cylinder cars of mid-2000s+. I like the cam-on-bucket valvetrain, too, very simple.
Agreed. What's up with that bedplate...
I had a dodge caliber for several years, had very little issue with it or the engine. Maintenance and some small issues were easy to diagnose and fix
How about the rust?
@@speedkar99 I guess it depends on where you live. Not so much an issue in the pacific northwest.
I think it comes down to the owner to wax the paint and apply undercoating to prevent what you can regardless of make and model you have. Car manufacturers can only prevent so much against all the diverse punishing environments and weather the united states offers.
My parents have a 2007 with the 1.8 It's been very reliable for them, only issue they had was the PCM crap out on them a few years back.
Yeah Chrysler had an issue with pcm
I actually kinda like this Engine. I recently had one come in that needed a head gasket it was pretty much done in one day, and that's impressive because I work slow and carefully
Nice. It is simple to work on and layed out well. Did you snap or round any bolts?
@@speedkar99 nope! And that's rare being in the rust belt here. Everything went pretty smooth, I look forward to the next one that rolls up!
If you like that engine then you will have lots of work til they all die out. :-) I wont touch it.
Interesting take here. I actually think that the world is a fantastic engine. For the sole reason that it is made so affordable. The costs they save in engineering are put back into your pocket. And I regularly see cars with the world with 200,000+ miles on them. My girlfriend drives a 2008 Jeep Patriot with the world engine and she has 185,000 miles. And it’s been great. The engine is also incredibly easy to work on. The fastener sizes are a pain. But other than that. It’s a very simply and strong engine.
My gf at the time (I made her an honest woman 😁) had a 2011 Patriot, it had 60k on it and it sounded like a garbage disposal. That was the noisiest engine I have ever heard. I bought her a 4Runner now.
@@JAMESWUERTELE it seems people either have the worst experiences or the best experiences with the Jeep Patriot. No in between lmao
Bought a 2014 patriot in 2018. Paid 11k for it with 39k miles, monthly payment was 179/mo. Car had manual transmission, crank windows, etc. Only amenities were traction, abs, cruise, ac, cd, and fog lights, outdoor thermometer. 2.0 has been great, I change the oil every 5k miles full synthetic. Been a great car so far and dirt cheap. First 100k miles no repairs. I cannot complain. Discount car at a discount price, but reliable.
@@billgateskilledmyuncle23 I’m thinking about getting a Patriot with a manual as a daily. I think they’re great little cars. I would avoid the CVT at all costs though
@@caydengatewood1190 *Jeep in general
2.4 are great engines ,have four of them in our family with lots of miles and no issues ,not really sure the point you were trying to make if any !
Quality isn't the greatest. Especially these bolt on parts
I work on these pretty regularly, the coolant housing on the side of the head is what fails the most. We see a lot in for overheating due to those housings leaking from the gasket flattening out and the housing warping. Aftermarket parts are terrible plastic quality, we only use dealer ones now and they're currently 2 weeks back ordered. As long as you keep coolant in them, change the oil, they'll do 200,000 miles or better. The transmissions normally attached to these and the vehicle it all goes into are unlikely to make 200,000 miles.
Thanks for your input. So that plastic housing cracks? I knew it...it seemed pretty cheap feeling
@@speedkar99 I don't seem the OEM ones cracked unless the engine has been blowing steam through it. What happens to OEM ones is shown in your video inadvertently. The gasket flattens out against the head and the never changed coolant starts to weep paste and corrodes the aluminum surface enhancing the leak. It's a small leak so it goes unnoticed until the engine is overheated likely after having been ran low on coolant and parts of the head running hot already. The aftermarket ones split on the big 'disc' on top and have undersized hose connections. Hyundai/Kia use a similar manifold and have a similar problem. Oh and there's 2 thermostats in there! One that opens around 180-190 degrees that's low flow and a 2nd one that opens around 210-230 degrees that gives full coolant flow. Haven't seen you around Toyotanation lately, good to see you're doing well! You're getting good at teardown, I think that @I_Do_Cars is looking to hire!
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My 01 Caravan with this engine and 3-speed auto ran for 245k miles. I had the same overheating problems in its last 1k miles of life, but it was overall solid. I probably could've kept it going had I bothered to fix anything on it, but it was a $500 rusty van.
@@flurpoid You had a different engine, these didn't come out until 2005. You would have had the 2.4 EDZ which was used until 2007 in the US and maybe longer in other countries. A much more durable long lasting engine than the World Engine was ever designed to be but a very harsh buzzy engine.
@@huzudra my $800 “hooptie” has the 2.4L EDZ. It’s a solid engine, a lot of people do neglect to change the timing belt at the said interval, but thankfully they’re non-interference. You can see the wonderful cost cutting on the WGE in every way.
Grandpa wasnt doing his oil changes on time 😂
Or whoever drives dodge calibers....
love your videos. would a teardown of a buick 3800 SII that were in the 2000s impalas, park avenues, and monte carlos be interesting?
I would love to get my hands on a GM 34/3800
There is a neat engineering cutaway of one on display at the car museum in sarasota fl.
Looks like a solid simple design. All the plastic is the weakness.
Agreed
I always dreamed of owning a company where it does nothing of what this industry does which is ultimately to not just what the customer wants but actually needs. This engine is a good example, of just corporate carelessness and leadership mistakes they burden onto you with.
My idea would be to make a modular frame instead of unibody. This would allow platform releases to go by the decade and when a customer wants to buy again they can instead option to have their car refurbed or even upgraded to more modern components for that platform. Played around with it alot in Beam NG and Automation/Blender and i'm actually serious about making a spaceframe to conceptualize my idea. My friend once wanted to fly for Red Bull and so he worked hard training new people how to fly, one mega millionaire student noticed his effort and hired him on to fly for his charter and teach him how to fly his new HondaJet. Half a decade later hes rolling around like a boss in a MXS in Redbull AR camp (top of class too). So who knows maybe someone around will admire my concept and it'll kick off but by preference i'd like my first build to be with my own cash so the weight of mistakes carry more discipline in engineering.
Plus should I take off with my idea, I've wanted to build something rugged, but also elegant. Standard with each model too is EMP shielding and an option for CBRN military grade sealing w/Oxygen supply. Windows and doors will be bulletproof up to 5.56 (there's cheap tech that can achieve this). Basically a car that looks nice, is reliable enough to consider an investment saving with the modular design, and can survive whatever mess these idiots running our governments are getting us in.
Honestly I think given the current state of the industry, this would make a killing in competition and bring standardized safety more complacent with our present environment (crime, etc). Cause people can make one large finance investment, but not have to repeat the cycle and be free of any loan for a bit, then when the time does come they can diversify with more cost-effective solutions that I would offer. Would also create a good relationship with the customer which if it satisfies them, also creates a cash flow for you as a continued patron. I'm also a freak about making solid products, a hill I would NEVER die on unlike most of todays industry. Not while I'm in charge.
Very interesting idea
Love your videos... your brother is going to have hard time figuring out which side of his shirt is the clean one now!!
fail often? I'm confused the one i replaced at the Mitsubishi dealership was 1 because they had no oil in it and I didn't even replace one at Chrysler but i did do 3.6l head gaskets and 5.7L hemi engine on a brand new jeep Wagoneer. in my eyes those engines are basically indestructible not the fastest nor highest quality but it's a mass produced economy engine
Yeah I guess the simple design makes it easy and economical to work on. Why did the Hemi fail?
@@speedkar99 valve seat 5,800km
You must have some bias against Chrysler. There are literally millions of this little engines still in service with relatively few failures. I owned one (a 2.4) in a Chrysler 200 and it had over 200K when I donated it to a family member. I drove the car every day like I stole it and the only issue I had was the oil pain leaked and had to be replaced for a whopping $30.00
So looks like the internals are designed OK, but the peripherals are not too good, better that then the opposite I suppose 🙂
Yes. Everything bolt on doesn't seem quality
You really never said specifically why this engine is not a good one in fact you made several statements that point to your lack of basic engineering skills. I don't see anything other than lack of oil changes that caused problems for this engine.
Never seen someone so offended by plastic parts (not broken on an engine that has outlived the vehicle) and the concept of using an appropriately sized fastener, even when that means more than one size bolt is used.
I took a plastic timing gear out of 1971 400 Ford last year. Updating the cam... timing gear still going strong. Turns out all the outrage over those plastic gears was much ado about nothing.
Nice. To me, plastic seems like cost cutting.
I watch allot of your videos its very interesting ,and the way you present it its very nice and straight to the explanation on what ever topic youur knowledge ,good work thanks
Seems like solid build engine as you disassemble ot more and more.
If only they didn't cheap out here and there.
Yeah I agree. Good design, not so good execution
Waiting for that moment you start assembling the engine you disassemble
Are my intros too long?
at least this engine has a proper timing chain. VW uses a bicycle chain
Yeah those sucked
I thought this guy was going to show why this engine was a failure? I retired after working as a Chrysler tech since 1979. The only failures I saw on these engines was due to lack of maintenance. I've seen them with 300k on them. My Avenger, which I purchased new has nearly 100k. This is a very reliable engine.
Some days I feel just like your neighbor.
Breaking down your house? Lol
My little Dodge Avenger has 200k+ miles, this will definitely come in handy in my rebuild. Plan to fix up the old Engine with some TLC because it is my first car and I’m not ready to say goodbye
I miss the 1960s period , it was a great time to be a gear head. Engines were not as fuel efficient but they were simple and rugged even the worst of those years was better than any crap made today . Practically any engine of that vintage with modern ignition and aftermarket injection system are the way to go in an older restored car / truck ,the hell with the gadget filled cockroaches that people call cars in the past 3 decades.
Another day, another video. Boy is your brother in law going to be ticked off when he finds all his clothes missing! 😆🤣😂
Haha
Thank you for your videos dude they are amazing
Thanks for watching!
I think I have one of these in my Kia Spectra 😅 It's never failed me and I've always abused it but hey if it doesn't wanna fail I'll keep it.
The Hyundai versions are different
Troubling trend of plastic parts used in an engine.
Does this have iron-sleeved cylinders?
I didn't check sorry
there's a guy on the other side of the fence trying to do a house teardown video and you are disrupting him ;)
House teardown vs engine teardown!
I have one of these, they are tough little engines, besides replacing the pulllys and spark plugs, never had a problem in 15 years. change the oil once in a while and don't over heat it. Revving little engines too, 6,750 redline.
The question I have is why is your neighbor demolishing their house? And should you be worried that you will have to do that too.😊😊 lol
They're making a new one
Chaotic tear down videos are the best
Word of advice. Do not purchase aluminum timing chain guides. They destroyed my engine within 1 day. Plastic is better my mechanic said for engine life expectancy.
"Oh my God, more oil" 😂😂
Haha
Typical clumsiness
ARE YOU GUNNA REBUILT IT?
No. I scrapped it
In a odd twist the neighbor was complaining about impact wrench noises on his home demo video.
Hahaha
My.impact is pretty loud to be honest but I do it in the middle of the day hopefully when no one is sleeping
I see no failure but a well worn engine. At least the water pump is driven from the serpentine belt and not from the timing chain.
This engine didn't have a mechanical failure but it's quality is meh
@@speedkar99 could be a lot worse... Like gm or Ford or kia....
Great watch and listen..Thanks..
Welcome
Can you do the Mitsubishi 4B11 variant of this engine? It would be cool to see how different it is from the other World Engines.
I've taken apart a 4b11. I honestly can't see any differences other than brackets and maybe the starter location, oh and the intake flaps aren't there The 4b11 is of much better quality though. That thing will go over 300,000km easy with good oil changes
@@DaDaDo661 and the lack of balnace shaft assembly
@@gianfrancoa ah yes that's right
Good to know
At times, using a thinner fastener is better than a thick one. Using one that's as thin as possible will give you better tension. Think of wrapping a oil pan with bailing wire vs. bungee. The bungee will be flexible & always give some tension vs the ridged bailing wire.
Does not compute. More realistic, imagine a head held on with 1/4" bolt vs 1/2". I'll take the 1/2".
@@boots7859 You don't understand the mechanics of metal, heat, expansion, & contraction. Sorry, no cookie for you. Go to the back of the line.
2:29 in my head canon, your neighbor is behind the wheel of that Case with half of a straightjacket still on after escaping from the local mental institution.
One time he came asking me to change his car oil. I never saw him after that.
Yeah, but... Are you gonna rebuild it?
Already scrapped!
@@speedkar99 Noooooo...
Wow, I've remodeled some houses before but never used an excavator, seems its done different on the north side of the pond. Nice bolts, access was in your favor. Somehow I get the feeling you have less than stellar feeling about that throw away engine except that the vehicle itself is prone to scrap. Great review! Also glad to see snow as I hate to keep it all to myself on the south side. Time to see what Chef Safi has cooking! Thank you for another education as to what to stay away from.
I'm glad you appreciate it. Yes access is much easier when the engine is on the stand.
I guess it's easier to rent an escavator to demolish as it'll also be doing the digging.
Your a fast worker, your boss must be proud!?
Nah my boss is just as chill as me
First time i have heard that rusty bolts are a metric for quality….. guess what we salt are roads up here in southern ontario, Calibers haven’t been made in since 2012 still see the occasional one still running around most seem to have little to no rust.
No shortage of salt here in MN, but I will admit I've never seen valve cover bolts that rusty, even on cars twice that old. It's the top of the engine, it should be pretty well protected in the engine bay from things like road salt. Especially the ones on the back! Very strange.
Hey I'm in the Toronto area as well. I don't see much on the road but in the junkyards they're all rotted out underneath, especially the subframes
Hi great videos. Thanks from dubai.
You are welcome from Canada
Bro took apart a perfectly good engine that was most likely sitting outside the vehicle in the elements (which creates rust) and called it the worst engine…
It's obvious you don't have a mechanical engineering degree, but either way, you're entitled to your own opinions. Everyone has the right to be wrong. Most of us just aren't as confident in our errors as you appear to be.
Thanks. Can you please tell me where I can improve?
The 2.4L EDZ was so much better than the WGE “successors.” Sure it makes less horsepower, but torque is practically the same. Allegedly the WGE were cheaper to produce than the EDZ/ECC, etc.
My brother's t-shirt, 🤣 classic!!
Best for absorbing oils
My mums 2007 jeep patriot has the 2.4 version of this motor and it's still going strong 16 years later
Identical reliability with Toyota and Honda.
I suspect that oil pan job to be stock. Every one of those engines I've had to work on is rtv. And it is absolutely glued on there with WAY too much... I think this is Chrysler quality at its finest
Really? That much rtv!
I thought that engine looked pretty clean inside for high mileage..but not stated mileage...Mobil 1 oil filters are good filters...From the comments, these engines are very reliable if taken care of properly..Great video
Sure they can be reliable. I just wish Chrysler used better quality bolt on parts
Seems like an OK engine to me.
Yeah it's okay.
bro is actually wearing proper shoes and not thongs (aussie flip flops)
Well I aught to, it's winter.
@@speedkar99 well you're lucky. It's summer here in Australia
@@sebastianjohannesen8863 I think winter in most of parts of Australia apart from Tasmania is nearly as warm as some parts of Canada in summer, lol.
E.g., I looked up that the average daytime temperature high in Vancouver in July is 22°C while the average daytime temperature high in Adelaide, Australia in July (the middle of winter) is 16°C. For reference, the average temperature high in Vancouver in winter in January is 7°C, while in Adelaide in summer in January it is 29°C.
NICE .BRO LEARNING A LOT FROM YOU!!
You are welcome
Excellent choice of tools. Milwaukee makes quality stuff. We have a few Milwaukee impact wrenches and drills in our shop.
I'm finding they don't have the power anymore. Maybe the cold and age taking its toll on my Batteries
Not sure why you seem surprised and/or disappointed with chain guides being made of plastic; I reckon you be hard pressed to find a modern timing chain engine without and there are plenty of examples of them being durable. Also examples of them being total (BMW) crap of course 🙂
The modern Pentastar isn't much different, I think it's just a Chrysler thing. Alot of other brands have plastic but not this much!
Honda K series still has metal backing frames for the main chain guides (be it the K20C turbo or the NA version). The guides and chain still look the same as the original K series engine in 2001 as far as I can tell, so it's probably the same part number as since it was a decent design there was no need to change it.
The all-plastic timing chain guides (i.e., with all-in-one plastic frames, obviously the guide material is always going to be nylon) seem to be more of a cost reduction or "value engineering" thing rather than a "deliver high quality" thing?
@@TassieLorenzo thanks for that, interesting info. BTW plastic guides break more because of extended oil change intervals than anything else. Excessive carbon deposits wear down the chain and guides very quickly.
Is there a choice of what kind of plastic to use? Cheap plastic? Biodegradable fragile plastic made with the approval of harebrained environmentalists?
@speedkar99 come on, everybody is using plastic on their engines nowadays. My son's 01 Lincoln LS v8 has a bunch more plastic than this engine AND they regularly fail. At least, on this engine none of it failed, and I thought the plastic pieces looked pretty good especially considering this one was not well-maintained.
My Jeep 2014 has 265k miles and still works like a champ.
Secret. Maintenance on the. or less good oil and change the coolant every year. My car still has the same water pump
Again maintenance is the key
Joint venture with Chrysler, Hyundai, and Mitsubishi. Those engines are tough and last forever with the exception of a few oil changes. Would have been great if the CVT behind many of them would have lasted as long as the engines did.
This is why i cherish my 5spd outlander sport im never selling this thing
@@bwatt1383 I worked at Mitsubishi as a Triple Diamond Elite tech for 15 years and when those Sports were new. That's a rare one and you're smart by keeping it.
@@greggc8088 going on a tangent, any stand out repairs on outlanders or lancers? At first glance the wiring and ecu placement doesn't seem as durable as my Toyota yaris had I'm tempted to clean off the ground wires to prevent electrical issues.
@@bwatt1383 Never seen any issues with Mitsu electrical issues unless some jack leg replace a module with a hip shot instead of diagnosing the real problem. About the only issues with the Mitsu was AC condensors and CVT transmissions caused by aggressive drivers and lack of changing the trans cooler filter that many do not know exists.
Agreed. The CVT and rust kills these cars
It’s so easy for people to pick on Chrysler/Stellantis, seems to be especially common amongst people that have never torn down an engine in their life and people that have very low to no understanding of mechanical engineering. I personally don’t see anything wrong with this engine design but to each their own I guess!
I don't see alot wrong with the fundamentals here....it's all the bolt on parts, like the oil cooler and cams that defame this engine.
@@speedkar99 i still don’t see any problem with this engine. Sure, it’s designed with a lot of thermoplastic parts but the same goes for just about any other engine manufacturer that is trying to provide an economical solution for the powertrain whilst keeping the overall vehicle price down.
One thing I do agree with you on are the bolts/fasteners, they all rust on Chrysler/Stellantis vehicles, even in the South where they don’t even salt the roads, what’s up with that?! 🤷♂️
This engine was a failure??!!?? LMFAO. This was one of Chryslers best. Too bad people get them after they are 16+ years old, and talk like they know anything.
Too bad the cars they were in aren't on the road anymore. Probably due to the CVT
So funny.. you took this engine apart in 18 mins and dude from i do cars takes 32-35mins.. i like your version better man. you got to the point. 💯
Thanks. He does good work. Just longer format so I have to playback at double speed haha
I'm glad that engine went to some good use. I'm pretty sure you bought it from me. CHEERS !
Did I? Were you out in Uxbridge/ Bloomington somewhere?
@@speedkar99 That was me!