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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
- This week's episode is with OFill Allen, who murdered a man and spent 12 years behind bars for the crime. We talked about why he committed the crime, his time in prison, and if he would ever do the same thing again.
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Just wish he'd called him out for a fist fight and not 2 on 1 with baseball bats. But I guess on some level you know a rapist has very little honour.
Rapists deserve to get wasted let's face it, man did society a favour.
@@shiro9950 No one should ever feel remorse for a rapist. I wish they would promote this man more considering the good he's done for his community.
@@shiro9950 And the person that got raped didn't do anything to deserve what happened to them. If your family member or friend is a rapist and they get killed, you shouldn't feel bad, you should be happy that someone like them got taken off of the streets. You should be 100% proud of yourself if you take a rapist off the streets, you're saving lives if you do. It's crazy that you'd rather side with a rapist instead of a person that dished out some deserved justice. You're a rapist sympathiser and there's nothing more to it. But it's ok, once you grow up you'll realise how wrong you are.
There is more to the story and we're still hurting today😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 they are Lieing I need and interview with the person who are doing the podcast I need to voice my opinion so I can have a peace of mind sleepless nights tears 😭😭😭😭
Killing a rapist gets ya twelve, some convicted rapists get about three... Justice system needs an overhaul.
Both sentences are too short
@@fanboy8735 you must be a rapy peedy huh?
@@thearough I had a stroke reading this
In Switzerland rapist's when they get caught for the first time often just get a warning and some bills to pay. Second time gets them like 2 years....
the guy wasn't known to police, the woman took a plea and refused to go to court, his mate told him... sounds more like the girl was fucking multiple men, got caught and then someone killed over it...
he got 12 years supposedly because she didn't want to go to court and give evidence, she sent him to prison for what he done. how do none of you pay attention to this? someone who will randomly attack you with a baseball bat, if someone says something bad about you...
The amount of women he saved from future sexual violence at the hands of that man is unreal.
You really believe his story? Read the court reports! The guy was apparently killed by a jealous boyfriend and his friend who killed the victim for having sex with his girlfriend, no mention of rape in the court reports.
Thousands coming into the UK everyday to take his place look up Lorraine Cox!!!
You make a good point, but what strikes me more is his stupidity; he should know better as a young Black man in the UK. The fact that he was defending the honour of someone else's woman, speaks to his poor judgement.
@@63Baggies I was struck by it as well, but in my mind I didn’t consider it stupidity, however I completely understand your feelings. He absolutely threw his life away over a woman and a lack of self control or perhaps too much empathy. I was struck by his unwavering plea that he felt he did the right thing in his gut, and that may have saved other women from a similar fate. Unfortunately, this story doesn’t have a happy ending. Lives were lost in different ways.
@@63Baggies yeah he made judgement. He wanted to impress his friend. And who knows the girl could have been lying she was able to set the guy up. Both ghosted him like nothing happened.
I was almost raped in 2 separate occasions. 2 different males. I was a kid. I was violently abused by both parents so I know that I could have never told them. They would have blamed me. So even though I was a kid, I kept it to myself.
This guy is a hero in my book.
You are a hero in my book ,hope you are doing good. I know you will probably never get over it ,but you will learn to live with it .
@@Robb29dehora I second this.
@@Robb29dehora who me? I'm doing well but I'm hypersensitive to men being overtly sexual with me and at times it has traumatized me. I couldn't figure out why I was so sensitive to that but looking at what I went through as a child, that makes sense. Thank you for your kind words.
@@Zralost thank you.
@@tranquility9325 stay strong and kick em in the balls my friend !!!.
this man is not a murderer, a murderer kills in cold blood. he is a hero that killed a man protecting someone, avenging someone he cares about.
Give him a medal
There is nothing heroic about vigilantism and denying a person’s right to due process
@@oleandra3759 if there would be a working justice system there would be no need for it.
He murdered somebody no matter if he saved a person or not he took another life. He is a murderer.
@@elgoblino4578 Agreed
his response about going to the police hit me hard. I'm a father, a son, a husband and a brother. I'll defend the women in my life with all of me. i agree with him 100%.
I agree with you 💯 & appreciate men like the both of you ❤️❤ Unfortunately there's not many of you around. Blessings to you & your family Xx
assuming assuming... everyone in the comments is assuming. I really need 2 sides of the story because assuming what our superhero is doing in the video is still not proof. just blindly believing someone is so stupid. and she also takes a plea deal. nice and convincing ... if that man has actually done what they claim then he deserved all of it and I will take back my words
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@@gamuiceyt01 W
The problem is … how can you be 100% certain that the female in question is recounting the incident with 100% accuracy? That’s a big leap of faith to make especially when your ‘act of revenge’ could quickly escalate into murder or the infliction of permanent physical or brain damage. There are ALWAYS two sides to a story no matter how hard we try to deny it.
As a survivor, I can say hand on heart that I've thought about doing this to my attacker a million times - he just had the guts to actually do it. I do believe going through the police SHOULD be the right course of action but he wasn't wrong in what he said. People have lost a lot of faith in the force recently. My rapist had a conviction and went to prison in the end but guess how long for? 3 years - he served 2. I was 11 when he ruined my life. Where's the justice in that?
I'm so sorry to hear that!! That should never happen to anyone and there is no justice in something like that. At the bare minimum, he should have gone to prison for the rest of his life.
These predators are animals and deserve their fate.
There is no justice for crimes committed by sex offender's
Peace and health be with you 🙏🙏🙏
They ain't attacked that much they go onto their own wings surrounded by their own they only really get done when they are on remand and mixed in with normal crimes the word nonce comes from bk in the day on your cell door card it would have your name and prison numbers plus your crime the word nonce comes from NOT OF NORMAL CRIMINAL ELELMENT which is how the government described people of sexual offences against children because it ain't normal
@@equinox95 very hard to get the opertunity tho mate I just got out after two years they are treated like royalty in jail dirty cunts , when ever the nonce wing is moved around like to gym for example all other prisoners are locked on there wings or sometimes even behind the door
I honestly admire this man's character and integrity. Murder is a horrific thing but his explanation and sincerity is very admirable.
Here's the real story from a local newspaper at the time of your admired hero;
"Aaron Spencer, 21, and O'Fill Allen, 20, used Spencer's 18-year-old girlfriend, Tara Icar, as a honey trap to lure Orlando Thompson to his death.
They lay in wait in a phone box before pouncing on the 31-year-old outside a bus stop and repeatedly beating him around the head with baseball bats.
Icar walked off as Mr Thompson collapsed to the ground with a fractured skull and swelling to the scalp during the frenzied attack.
He was taken to Charing Cross Hospital but died five days later after a severe heart attack.
The Old Bailey heard how Mr Thompson, who used the street name 'X' and was also known as Neil Atherton, met Spencer's girlfriend Tara Icar while driving through Finsbury Park in his BMW. They exchanged phone numbers and they had sex after a date on June 10, 2003.
But when jealous Spencer found out about Thompson a few days later, he set up the fatal attack.
On June 22, Mr Thompson left his house in Sweet Briar Green, Edmonton, to meet Icar and pulled up at the bus stop in Stroud Green Road, near the junction with Tollington Park.
She enticed him out of the car while Spencer and Allen hid in a phone box with one wooden and one metal baseball bat.
Prosecuting Sally Howes QC, told the court: "They made straight for Mr Thompson and attacked him, striking him repeatedly and forcefully with the bats.
"Most of the blows were to the head and many were struck while he was on the ground, injured and helpless."
Police found two baseball bats in a nearby rubbish bin covered with traces of the victim's blood. A used condom with Mr Thompson's semen and traces of Icar's DNA was found in the victim's jacket pocket.
Spencer later told friends he and Allen had beaten up a man who made sexual advances towards 'his girl' but did not mean to kill him.
Judge Paul Focke QC told the pair: "You mercilessly beat the unarmed man about the head. O'Fill Allen, you became an enthusiastic and willing partner in this revenge attack.
"The sentence for murder is mandatory."
Allen, of Osborne Road, Finsbury Park, will serve a minimum of 11 years and 127 days before parole is considered and Spencer, of Mildmay Road, Islington, will serve at least 12 years and 127 days.
Icar, of Queens Drive, Finsbury Park, admitted conspiracy to cause actual bodily harm. She will be sentenced at a later date."
You would have loved the German with the mustache, he had the same integrity and sincerity and killed a lot of monsters too. Too bad you didn't lived there with him.
People like you is fucking disgusting.
@@F_U The r a p i s t still deserved it. You’re just too weak to see that.
@Mariams Adventure 1st, colonisers are not a valid comparasion here. And I didnt compared him with Hitler, u are VERY short on understanding. I compared him to ppl who admired Hitler cause he said he was cleaning Germany from monsters, this guy is admired cause he say he killed a monster.
2nd, the story is from ppl that had proof and saw the crime scene, mobile phones, etc.
3rd, You mean the murderer? Jails are FILLED with ppl who did some good action and ended with the bad guy (rapist, child abusers, women assaulters) just like this man. If you believe all of them u r idiot. No one is there saying they are just bad persons. And this man didnt even lie well, his history is filled with incongruences.
But some ppl only need to listen "I killed a monster, not a person" to admire them.
@@F_U: In full agreement with you, people like that should never be "respected" whatsoever, trying to rationalize his action and cost him - deservedly - this was a premeditated act with the sole purpose of causing much devastation as possible.
I like when you mention 'The German with a mustache', easily compatible with Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi, Osama Bin Laden, Pol Pot and so many others who caused bloodshed - yet misguided people look up to them and condone such behaviour.
Some years ago a feature film was loosely based on that event, unsurprisingly it was called "Honeytrap" - all this individual (Allen) has going for him is notoriety and not much else in life : nothing more than a statistic.
Regardless of whether society sees this guy as guilty or innocent or a hero or a thug, I have mad respect for how he owns his actions, he obviously has a clear moral compass and follows it.
Right. And there's nothing fishy about his story whatsoever
@@Leekus53 He lured a man to his death by killing him with a baseball bat. Rape wasn't mentioned once at his trial. What was mentioned however was that his mate's ex was having consensual sex with the victim. Surely if he was the big hero he makes himself out to be, the girl would have testified in court
@@Leekus53 Why don't you read the court report instead of taking the word of a murderer
It doesn't take responsibility, he says it was the right thing to do and plays a victim card. The selfish shithead hides behind the supernatural and refuses to admit he is coward and a murderer
The case is very fishy. The lady pleaded guilty and to this day hasn't come out to give her response. Plus Ofill allen wasn't even the one directly aimed in the case. It was his freind Spencer. Spencer and his GF Tara both were the ones who told Ofill of the 'r4ype' But it's weird cuz, Tara and Spencer weren't in good terms during thier relationship. And for some reason, Thompson still felt comfortable enough to meet her up? Couldn't he have predicted it was a set up if he did 'r4ype' her?
Unless he didn't and that's why he trusted her still. Let's not mention that Thompson and Tara had went on a date earlier and even exchanged each others phone numbers. So isn't it weird that Tara was basically cheating on Spencer? And when confronted told him it was 'r4yp?'
No video, no text, no surveillance has come out. So yea obviously a person would justify himself to save himself. Now maybe Ofill Allen did 100% believe he was doing the right thing. But how could he be 100% certain that there was indeed a 'r4ype' that occurred that day? Which is why it's not a good idea to take these thing in your own hands and not even do anything to record it, much less call the police afterwards. Or even give them a chance. They knew the guy. So why couldnt they set him up with the police.
All we have is word of mouth. And coincidently it just so happens to be the only ones alive. We will now never know Thompsons side of the story. Because the dead can't testify.
He's not a murderer in my eyes. He's a guy protecting the community from vicious people like the guy he killed.
He is a murderer. Vigilantism isn't heroic
The definition of a murderer is someone who takes a life, love...🙃
No one is going to mention the fact that woman false accuse men regularly? How many women have committed adultery and then claimed rape.....I'm not saying shes lieing but everyones quick to condemn on this comment section
Please turn your life to Christ whilst you still can listen in the bible it says “ they’ll be wars and rumours of wars” the rapture is about to happen anytime now you do not want to be left behind please make the right choice repent of your sins and turn away from them we don’t have much longer left may God bless your soul 🙏
its not cool to go out and sort your problems out with a bat, though ngl wtf are we supposed to do if the convictions are so shit...
I remember this guy from school, we heard exactly the same story all those years ago. Good to see he's doing well.
it makes me happy to see someone who can confirm this dude he murdered really was a dodgey man cause i had my doubts wether he wanted to feel less bad for what he done, sounds like dude truly deserved what was coming
@@opticalman6417 No RAPE is never justified. Murder can save people from abuse in some instances.
@@opticalman6417 wrong
@@papilevi1862 The woman wasn't raped. In fact that 18 year old woman also went to prison. She cheated and slept with the murder victim. The man got jealous and organised to beat the man she cheated on with to death. Those three are in prison for their crimes. She was never raped. This is a case of a jealous ex boyfriend wanting to enact revenge. He deserved his time in prison.
@@senanb1: This says a lot about some people when false stories are made up, this was dramatized into a feature "Honeytrap" some years ago and this 'man' is trying to make himself a 'victim' and justify his actions.
He deserved his time in prison.
Seems like an absolute diamond. Everything he said was heartfelt. As a father of a daughter and a partner to a wife, this man has my upmost respect! 👊🏻
He killed a bloke, doesn't think he did anything wrong and plays the victim. You respect that kiddo, then you are a nong.
@@rockenOne he killed rapist who used his victim as a shield when confronted. What are you whining about?
I wouldn’t call him a murderer.
I don’t feel sorry for the killed one either.
I went through shit ton of sexual abuse. I’d give a lot to be able to have some revenge.
The only upsetting thing is that he got 12 years in jail, when most of those savages who force themselves upon others don’t get anything or some hilarious attempts to actual punishment.
I feel so bad for you. damn. i hope you're alright now tho.
@@4wkk thank you
@@rosesophieblack7287 no problem Rose. it breaks my heart when i hear things like this have happened to people. stay safe 🙏
@@4wkk you too 🙏
He is NOT a rapists...hes a HERO give him a big medal..🎖
"if there's one less rapist in the world- thats gotta be a good thing"
... As a survivor, for me, it is a good thing! So thank you! You gave up your 20s to make the world a safer place- and i truly appreciate that💕
Is the person in prison?
Safer? The man is a murderer. What's worse than being raped? It's being murdered.
Such idiotic level of thinking. Two wrongs don't make a right you pleb
Still got ya 00 out in ya pics didn’t learn a lesson
@@xXblackopskillZXx yeoooo.. I don’t ever post comments but every once in while you see one wild. Youse wild af lol
Gurl you need a mental health institution because rape is not on the same level as murder.
A very powerful human response - with dignity and honesty, this young man sacrificed 12 years of his life ridding the planet of a virus that plagues and preys on the weak.
Yeah... You might wanna look at comments. Some starting to question this, especially if you look into the case.
@@bimates2690 this is a whole generation who watched 10 minute videos and accepts them as whole hearted truths and anything should be shunned
Beating someone with a bat and going to prison isn't what springs to mind when I think of the word "dignity", but sure.
This is one side of the story, he went down for murder found guilty by a jury. I'm not convinced he was out protecting women
They prey on all women, weak or not. 25% of the women you know have been raped whether they tell you or not. They ain't all weak.
God bless this guy. I hope he makes the most out of his life now he’s out.
Yes the Christian god does love a bit of murder
Man hearing that pain when his family didn't show up at a visit... man oh man I bet that would hurt so bad.
From a legal or possibly ethical standpoint, you can easily say what he did was wrong.
As a female survivor of CSA and SA as an adult, who was betrayed by the police, I’ll tell you this: if there’s a man willing to sacrifice his own freedom to free the world of one less monster, I’m not going to sit here and say that’s a bad thing.
Philosophically, it’s not just ‘possible’ to make a case against this kind of vigilantism but absolutely imperative. How can anyone be 100% certain that the female in question has recounted the incident with 100% accuracy? That’s a big leap of faith to make especially when this ‘act of revenge’ could quickly escalate into murder or the infliction of permanent physical or brain damage, as it did here. There are ALWAYS two sides to a story no matter how hard we try to deny it.
@@himalayanhealthhut6656 you think this is an appropriate comment to spam under every comment by an abuse survivor? Perhaps you should think twice instead
@@himalayanhealthhut6656 You are spamming everywhere lol. And there are always cases of innocents being sent to jail or criminals being released without proper trial only to commit the same offence again. So its always kind of 50-50 whichever way you look at it. One thing though, punishment should be extremely severe to rapists. Only then will they think of consequences.
@@himalayanhealthhut6656 when you look a person in the eyes you can tell if theyre lying about it or not
@@briton3851 You get lied to. A lot.
This man speaks sense during the whole interview, respect to him for what he did!!! Phidophiles and rapist's get less jail than drug dealers...
Tell me about it, I’m 29 now. When I was 18 I got 4 years for 2 box of bud & just short of 4oz of white (105g). There was a guy in pc who raped his 6yr old daughter every other weekend when he had her over the span of 30 months. The guy did barely 18 months and was out back in the public. It’s a fucked up world we live in and it sure opened my eyes to some of the weirdest, nastiest shit as a 18-21yr old inside.
That's bc many govt officials are pedos themselves!
Some paedophiles get away scot free.
So are you saying drug dealers should get less time? Bro are you aware how many Vile inhumane acts are done whilst people are on drugs? are you aware of how many kids were put into care because of the sale of class A drugs? In my opinion Rapists and Peados should get life or death sentence but do not downplay the impact A class drug dealers have in the destruction of communities.
@@user-uu2fb7cd2z the thing is nobody knows if that guy really raped the girl. Her bf was busy smashing the guys car while this guy was fighting him over the bat? It's not adding up.
They both attacked him without finding out if it was true and of course he would grabbed the girl because she set him up. He added the part were he said the guy grabbed the girl because he felt guilty and knew he did something wrong ( to say this is the confirmation that he's guilty) his story sounds sus.
The girl definitely saved herself. That's a lesson to be learnt, don't ruin your life for someone who will turn their back at you
He did it because he believes in his morals more then he does trust people
@@kubobetterrelax7435 12 years is too high price to have morals
@@Toto-95 no it ain’t he was willing to die for the right thing he’s a legend end of the Day you know you can trust him
Man's right about "who can you go to?" thing, 100%. In an ideal world, drugs would be legalised across the board and sold legally, so there's no need for widespread corruption as the risk/reward ratio is extremely low/high for most smaller offences (which are often carried out by drug users), so there'd be no reason to waste police resources on putting vulnerable people behind bars. We'd be able to use police funds to fund ACTUAL criminals, like rapists, child abusers/neglecters, etc. yet instead, we've had to come to vigilante justice as a society to get some form of vengeance/justice/whatever jacket you wanna put on it.
He stood up for her, in court she got a plea deal and left him to dry. That's why it's hard to stick your neck out for others.
There's no evidence to suggest the guy he killed was a rapist though. You need to look at the story from all angles. From what we know this could all be a lie in an attempt to get less time for an outright murder. Innocent until proven guilty... unfortunately the other side can't prove his side of the story... why?... because he's dead and can no longer defend himself. Yet everyone, including you in the comments have labelled him a rapist with ZERO evidence.
@@ashmohd8825 why you commenting this over and over, you’ve got a point but it sounds like you’re really trying to defend the act of rape
@@leerichards730 algorithmic comment option on UA-cam Vanced
@@ashmohd8825 exactly
Maybe she didn’t get raped. Maybe her and her boyfriend used this man. Things that make you go hmmmm
WE NEED MORE STAND UP GUYS LIKE HIM.....PROUD OF HIS WICKEDNESS
PEDOS AND RAPIST GET LESS TIME...
If there wasn't a 12 year sentence attached to that, there would be.
I don't encourage Death Wish-type vigilante stuff, but at the same time, he killed a rapist,
Hell yeah that’s a real man.
@@SStupendous i agree. The issue is that the vast majority of rape cases don’t lead to any prosecution. The majority of rapists get away with it. I was told that if my rapist did it again in future, then my testimony would send him down. But they did nothing for my rape. They didn’t even dna test my clothes.
So what are we meant to do?
I had almost the exact same thing happen to me in high school. I was a a friends house up the street and a mutual "friend" said he wanted to ask my advice on something. I followed him in the bedroom and my internal alarm bells went off when he moved a love seat in front of the door. I was forced onto the bed and he tried taking off my jeans (luckily I wasn't in a dress) i ended up kicking him where it counts and getting out. I ran home. A police report was filed...nothing was done. A week later I was jumped by his sister and two of her friends for "hurting her brother." Years later, the same guy was arrested and charged for rape in two other cases. Two years ago, he died of an overdose. I felt so relieved hearing he wouldn't be hurting anyone else.
Kudos to this man for taking another rapist off the streets 👏
Wow, I am so sorry that happened to you. I bet his sister is looking back in regret now. I hope you’re thriving in life ❤
Imagine, the person that this all went down for was not even there to defend them and tell the truth when they needed her to. wow.
That’s why you must be very careful when defending a woman. Not many would defend you, and look at the price you have to pay.
yeah thats because she lied she obviously slept with th guy and lied to her bf
she got excluded, I'm baffled
@@peripheralparadox4218 Defending people** And Judas betrayed Jesus. Don't make this an unnecessary gender war.
@@saigie3908 just facts mate. Men put their lives on the line to protect women, women don’t do the same for men. Who asked Jesus?
Assuming everything he did, was told and believed was true - I don't blame this guy whatsoever. I agree with everything he says and would feel proud to have him as a friend or member of my family
@DONT k
I just don't believe him at all....
Ditto. I'd feel proud to have a friend who is willing to go to these lengths to protect his fam. True loyalty is rare these days.
@@lewisgarland8281 he is a liar 100% look up the original story.
check the case
the girl was never raped
the boyfriend was jealous that his GF cheated on break
they arranged to rob the man and beat him up and went too far
the girl was seen on a date with the guy the day after she claimed it was rape
the girl slept with the man the day he was killed
the guy used a condom each time they slept with each other
She never testified because there was no rape, and now she is also gone to jail for arranging his robbing.
This man told his story in a candid and straight to the point manner. For me, the saddest part of this man's story was when he said I'm a black man in court - I'm already on the back foot. No matter what he did or didn't do it's a travesty that a young black man has a justice system stacked against him from the outset.
If you don't commit crimes, you don't put yourself in that position. Can't pull the racism card when you smash a guys head with a bat.
@@gardz3256 guy? You mean a POS rapist? Are you seriously defending a rapist who got sent straight to hell by a good Samaritan?🤔
@@gardz3256 that's the thing - he openly admits his crime so that's not in question. My point is that he appeared in court to face the music feeling that he wouldn't get a fair shake simply based on his skin colour
The justice system is not stacked against him based on race. Its sad that that is his/people's perception. Its sad that that is the stigma. Its sad that there are disproportionate crime rates among certain ethnicities. But our legal system is very good at being non-discriminatory. A white, working class, person would have felt the same way
White ppl talking about racism in a predominantly white country will always be laughable and the reason it will never change
What a response about going to the police. He did what he had to do. He's a defender. Not an offender. Glad he's out and doing well
"What's going on, is this man dead? He can't be dead... I only hit him round the head a few times with a baseball bat."
I know it's terrible, but that made me laugh out loud.
Same! 😂
really love this guys honesty and how straight talking he is. wish him well. big respect brother
Indeed
You never hear the other person side of the story
@Ian Sacks what reason does a free man have to lie for its not like he has to lie to stay out of prison you should think more before commenting
@Ian Sacks he’s already labeled a murderer his reputation 9 times out of 10 isn’t a good one and again he’s free he’s done his time he has no reason to lie or to protect a reputation that’s already been tainted so you’re either dumb asf or you’re defending a rapist lol again think before you comment
There's no evidence to suggest the guy he killed was a rapist though. You need to look at the story from all angles. From what we know this could all be a lie in an attempt to get less time for an outright murder. Innocent until proven guilty... unfortunately the other side can't prove his side of the story... why?... because he's dead and can no longer defend himself. Yet everyone, including you in the comments have labelled him a rapist with ZERO evidence.
Out of all the minutes with series this man gives the most honest and thoughtful answers to all the questions given to him. No bullshit and says what he thinks and feels about everything.
I didn't expect to cry watching this, let alone twice.
There's no evidence to suggest the guy he killed was a rapist though. You need to look at the story from all angles. From what we know this could all be a lie in an attempt to get less time for an outright murder. Innocent until proven guilty... unfortunately the other side can't prove his side of the story... why?... because he's dead and can no longer defend himself. Yet everyone, including you in the comments have labelled him a rapist with ZERO evidence.
@@ashmohd8825 I never labelled anyone anything. I said that from watching the interview I believe he gave the most honest answers to all the questions given to him.
@@ashmohd8825 there's always people similar to yourself that wants to play devil's advocate to the side of the rapist/paedo, and that's why they get such little time and get the chance to repeatedly offend. People wouldn't have to kill these people if there was actually some legal justice
@@jtv7430 I honestly don't think he did. He showed all the traits of a liar.
He's a stand up guy. I fully condone his actions and I think most of us 'secretly' do as well.
This man is the friend everyone should be, or have. I love this guy. He did what everyone wishes they would/could do. Much respect to you sir.
Read the news articles that came out. The story goes a bit different there. If it went like he said it did then fair enough. But supposedly this was just another honey trap situation.
@@houseguard7573 you believe the papers? Joker
@@ueuehdsuhdh4543 you believe a convict on how he came to be arrested? Wasteman
@@houseguard7573 you believe the lies the media tells you after he millions of lies they’ve told you before? FOOL
He is not a murderer, but a killer. In my opinion, a murderer end the life of a person for an unjust reason or simply because they can. But a killer ends a life for many reasons, some being self defense, defending others etc. I believe that in this case, he is a killer, with a good and just reason, not a murderer.
So what do you think of serial killers?
Well said. 👍
@Mad Max It does to me. He just explained it perfectly above.
@@a.wyckhurst4199 imo, I think it's the other way around...murderer sounds just....or what about deatherer? or a deadist? j/k 😂
Well the law disagrees with you.
Well coming out of prison and being so level headed, he’s a rare breed.
Have u been to prison. Cus ud know thats not rare
@@doyadirty3804 no I haven’t, but the reoffending rate in the UK is insane. So for someone to serve so much time, and come out a better person, that’s rare in my eyes.
@@tomatosauce605 well he didn't really enter as a career criminal so it's a different thing
@@nimaabbasi1459 it doesn’t matter what you enter as. Being surrounded by the people and activities that go on in there are what can change you.
Most first time offenders go to prison and come out with a huge boost to their criminal skill, intelligence and contacts.. I get that this guy wasn’t a career criminal, but honestly this is the place that career criminals call university.
he had conviction in his actions. No matter which way society dissects it he believes he did the right thing. A clean conscience helps u sleep at night.
Fascinated by this series. Thank you.
Thanks for the video!
This bloke needs more recognition, should be doing public talking he has a very calm and understanding attitude while also stating hard facts. Never heard about this story before watching this so I have no conflicting interest but the bloke got way more than he deserved and should of been released years ago huge respect for speaking so openly and honestly on the situation
I don’t think vigilante justice & murder are in high demand in terms of public speeches…
@Ian Sacks It's actually blowing my mind how many people are just taking his word for everything. I guess the majority of people in this world really are gullible idiots lol
@@saneman7177 I’m not saying that are but ever heard of people turning their life around and making positive changes after doing something they shouldn’t have ?? Just because he done something that doesn’t define who he is as an individual none of us know him personally so we can’t say he’s a bad person because of one action he took in his life.
@@panickysmurf5502 I didn’t really take away any of that from the interview, that he’d turned his life around after making a bad decision…. First of all that “bad decision” was murdering someone, & secondly he said he didn’t even regret it…. It was an interesting interview but I don’t really see how it would benefit young people hearing it.
How is he said she said "hard facts"?
Assuming she was telling the truth, the man losing his life was well deserved. That said, I wouldn’t like to go down the road of ‘street justice,’ as it would eventually lead to innocent people getting beaten or killed on here say. Obviously, if it’s a member of my family, all bets are off.
Agreed. As long as it's not an innocent person getting the beating/death. That's why we need the judicial system to do it's job properly. I will say this though: if this were more common, people would think twice, no, 100 times before raping.
It's alright. Everyone in the comments here are 100% sure that he's an angel who's telling the truth..Even though it's a crock of shit. The girl got jailed too. There was no mention of the rape accusation in the trial
I mean the saying someone is innocent until proven guilty is there for a reason but it's a hard dilemma to be in because what someone is feeling isn't an accurate measurement sometimes.
And I think that's why I appreciate my religion Islam because this guy if proven guilty in an Islamic country he'd be dying a brutal one.
its true, no one on this comment section can be 100% certain if she is telling the truth or not.
@@JosephE-yd6ks Yep, very different story online. Nothing about rape. Just a jealous guy looking for revenge.
Sadly good guys come last, the people he stood up for have not been and thanked him or kept in touch after he sacrificed part of his life, so I thank you for the sacrifice you made, God bless you sir !
He stood up for someone who couldn't do it themselves and as a thank you he gets hung out to dry... Disgusting. That girl didn't deserve to have him as a friend. He sacrificed 12 years of his life for her and what did she get? A plea deal and left him to rot... This is why you see less and less people like him, willing to help others... Because you never know if they will leave you hanging.
This is absolutely fascinating to hear this story. Best of luck to you mate, I understand you and respect you as I would anyone else.
No one is going to mention the fact that woman false accuse men regularly? How many women have committed adultery and then claimed rape.....I'm not saying shes lieing but everyones quick to condemn on this comment section, the man could have thought that he slept with another mans girl an she set him up so he grabbed her? Be slow to judge people cmon...like I said I'm nor saying hes innocent or guilty
@@jmcc8718 I never at any point called him innocent or guilty- I am in no position to be the judge of such things.
@@Joemp3 " Best of luck to you mate, I understand you and respect you" That's what someone says to another person when they agree with what they did.
@@robertp457 Understanding and common respect mean nothing. I do not share his views, perhaps read the comment properly before spitting out some bs
Thank you for your service, O'Fill. The world would benefit greatly if there were more men of your calliber and humanity.
What an amazing man. We need more people like this. Respect he deserved this. gg.
OFill Allen, Sir, you're a good man, an honorable man. If the world was filled by men like you, it wouldn't be filled with monsters like this. And as a father, grandfather and husband, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. All the very best to you and your's.
How do you know they didn't just make it up. The courts believe that the couple had broken up, she had sex with someone else and he was furious. He was jealous and angry. She was jailed too! She lured a man to be murdered. She got two and a half years. Of course they're gonna make up some shit
How can you believe that everyhing this angel is saying is 100% true? He believed a women just om her word without any proof en killed somebody. We only have 1 side of the story. The men can't defend himself. This aint the fair why to handel things
lol, its a murderer
@@echtezooi8368 But assuming what he said to be true, was he right in doing what he did or not?
Please turn your life to Christ whilst you still can listen in the bible it says “ they’ll be wars and rumours of wars” the rapture is about to happen anytime now you do not want to be left behind please make the right choice repent of your sins and turn away from them we don’t have much longer left may God bless your soul 🙏
Bloke lost a decade of his life killing a wasteman for a girl who wasn’t even his mrs or family… for her then to not show up and talk in the dock? Not sure How I feel about it tbh. Don’t get me wrong if it was 100% true then everyone would be fine with it but it don’t add up really
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You Can’t have a whiteness when they’re involved in the same case unfortunately
Idk this whole case is a bit fishy to me..
Playing devil's advocate here, it's a bit convenient to justify what he did by saying the guy was a ''p*dophile r*pist scumbag'' when the guy's not alive to defend himself and the girl was over 18. According to reports, the girl and the victim met, exchanged numbers, had a date and had sex and the used condom was found in the girl's pocket. The ex-boyfriend found out and organised the attack. There was no mention of r*pe in the trial and the girl was later jailed for 2 and a half years after pleading guilty to conspiracy to cause actual bodily harm for setting the victim up and luring him to his death.
Then after all that, the guy in the video and the girl have never spoken since the incident?! Idk man, I don't know what to think.
@@Rhi915 I read a similar piece on this reading and came to the same conclusion you did Rosie something definitely does not add up with this 💯
She took a plea deal for a short sentence.
This is such a powerful interview. Thank you for sharing your story.
You are amazing Sir, all the best to you for your future!
3 sides to every story, hers...his...and the truth. I wouldn't go on a vigilante mission based on just what a woman said happened. How many men have had false accusations?
Exactly. I'm sure he's likely to be spinning this story to be the most favorable to himself.
Articles say she met the victim whilst he was driving through finsbury park in his BMW and they exchanged numbers, and she had sex with him after a date.
Bet she got caught out by her boyfriend, made up this story and ruined 3 lives in the process
Not likely that she lied, tho. Men are actually more likely to be raped than be falsely accused
@@krrrrrrrrrrrr3372 what?
@@krrrrrrrrrrrr3372 look at the original case, there was no talk of this fabricated rape. Only honey trap talk. The guy is full of fables and fairytales
I have complete respect to this guy. Anyone who rapes someone deserves to be hurt if not worse.
You have full respect for a murderer? You are brain dead. Especially because there's no proof she was raped. Strange guy
WHO ARE YOU to say who deserve to be hurt?!
@@rubinmiller1718 if someone is willing to rape someone they very much deserve it mate.
The girl might not have been raped. She may have just slept with the man and covered it up. Or the guy simply can't accept or get over his girl slept with another man is justifying that "it must have been rape". Either way this guy doesn't deserve praise or honout
@@rubinmiller1718 I am a normal civilian. A rapist isn't someone in my eyes they a monster so yeah I'm gonna kill a monster any chance I get. Rapists all need to be hurt or dead and if you don't think so, you might be a rapist...
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke. You are a good man.
Well done that man. Thought he articulated and delivered his version of things brilliantly.
A turning point in my life was when I found out nobody I was willing to die for would do the same
the selfish gene. all organisms are inherently selfish. Anyone who would die for you is under a delusion that it is the best for them to do so.
I love this guy, he is a hero to those who have spoken out and have recieved no justice from the "proper authorities". Thank you.
Please turn your life to Christ whilst you still can listen in the bible it says “ they’ll be wars and rumours of wars” the rapture is about to happen anytime now you do not want to be left behind please make the right choice repent of your sins and turn away from them we don’t have much longer left may God bless your soul 🙏
There's no evidence to suggest the guy he killed was a rapist though. You need to look at the story from all angles. From what we know this could all be a lie in an attempt to get less time for an outright murder. Innocent until proven guilty... unfortunately the other side can't prove his side of the story... why?... because he's dead and can no longer defend himself. Yet everyone, including you in the comments have labelled him a rapist with ZERO evidence.
He's a hero for taking out the trash. Well done mate👏🏾
@@F_U what a waste of time you writing this useless thesis. Nobody is gonna read it.Go cry somewhere imbecile🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👿🤡👺👹
@@justicepower1255 I dont writed it, the worst part is you are right with the second part. But that makes you imbecile, not me.
@@F_U your grammar is atrocious. Before you respond, learn how to spell. It's embarrassing and jarring. Now go away and troll elsewhere 🙄
Initially when I saw this video I emphathized with this man and I never had a doubt, but after reading into the story online it seems like he’s being dishonest here. There should be at least a disclaimer because this man’s story is very very different from the reports
This is easily one of the best interviews on LADbible, so much respect for this man, no bullshit, straight talking.
Nog bullshit you say? You seem very certain of that. I’m not so convinced. Awfully convenient the victim is dead and can’t argue against the story isn’t it? So this guy just lets his pals talk him into beating someone to death? Great guy
Lol now go look up the real story
@@Stierenkloot yah these guys are stupid lmao, the way he tells the story he had no idea if he really was a r***ist, and all the people praising him makes me think Londons gonna start having WhatsApp mob lynchings.
Moral of the story. There is always two sides to a story
Moral of the story: if you’re a man get written consent signed by a notary before you fuck anyone because this girl clearly lied about the rape.
Need more people like him 🙌🏼👍 well done for what you did
What’s the logic of attacking a person on hearsay? Go to the POLICE 👮♀️
the police rarely ever take rapes seriously
From This is Local London:
"Aaron Spencer, 21, and O'Fill Allen, 20, used Spencer's 18-year-old girlfriend, Tara Icar, as a honey trap to lure Orlando Thompson to his death in Stroud Green.
They lay in wait in a phone box before pouncing on the 31-year-old outside a bus stop and repeatedly beating him around the head with baseball bats.
Icar walked off as Mr Thompson collapsed to the ground with a fractured skull and swelling to the scalp during the frenzied attack.
He was taken to Charing Cross Hospital but died five days later after a severe heart attack.
The Old Bailey (The court) heard how Mr Thompson, who used the street name 'X' and was also known as Neil Atherton, met Spencer's girlfriend Tara Icar while driving through Finsbury Park in his BMW. They exchanged phone numbers and they had sex after a date on June 10, 2003.
But when jealous Spencer found out about Thompson a few days later, he set up the fatal attack.
On June 22, Mr Thompson left his house in Sweet Briar Green, Edmonton, to meet Icar and pulled up at the bus stop in Stroud Green Road, near the junction with Tollington Park.
She enticed him out of the car while Spencer and Allen hid in a phone box with one wooden and one metal baseball bat.
Prosecuting Sally Howes QC, told the court: "They made straight for Mr Thompson and attacked him, striking him repeatedly and forcefully with the bats.
"Most of the blows were to the head and many were struck while he was on the ground, injured and helpless."
Police found two baseball bats in a nearby rubbish bin covered with traces of the victim's blood. A used condom with Mr Thompson's semen and traces of Icar's DNA was found in the victim's jacket pocket.
Spencer later told friends he and Allen had beaten up a man who made sexual advances towards 'his girl' but did not mean to kill him."
Yep I remember the case... Guys really suger coating it with this whole rapist thing
Keeping a used condom in your pocket after raping somebody…. Jesus Christ
Wait the guy kept the condom? Wtf?
@@bradtheabolt817 Yeah what does that tell you? He kept it as a keepsake. A rapist
Love how they twist the narrative whilst still keeping the important details in there.
They indirectly say the girl was in on it but they word it so as to say they went behind her back to use her to get to the guy out of 'jealousy' lmao
Bellends...
The biggest rule I have for myself is NEVER confront anybody about something when I'm angry/emotional. Always give it time to sink in, deal with the emotions, then you can think clearly about how to handle things. There's less risk of you making a mistake in the heat of the moment like this, God forbid. Thank you for sharing your story with us, Ofill. And to the guys at LADbible TV for making this available. You guys have done a great thing by sharing this with us. If it helps to keep even just 1 person from making a mistake half as bad as this, then I see this, and all of you as a success. Best wishes to you all.
💯 Some of the worst mistakes are made through anger and emotion...And to think if you just stopped (even 4 just a min) the outcome could be completely different
@@DeeDerry agreed.
This man is a hero! He shouldn't have been in prison, he should have been given a medal and the keys to the city. They way he shows so much compassion for women, you can tell that it's not all about his ego. He genuinely wants women to be able to live in peace, no matter what people think of him.
My takeaway from this is that not all heroes wear capes! Respect! This man is amazing!
I don't see a murderer. I see someone who doesn't care how the job gets done. As long as it's done. Honorable to be honest.
Please turn your life to Christ whilst you still can listen in the bible it says “ they’ll be wars and rumours of wars” the rapture is about to happen anytime now you do not want to be left behind please make the right choice repent of your sins and turn away from them we don’t have much longer left may God bless your soul 🙏
@@jordanteee3841 ”Let the man that has no sword, sell hos cloak and buy one” Luke 22:36
3 sides to every story
You guys who speak like this have no idea about death.
It's honorable, we agree on that, but murder is murder no matter how societally justified it is
@@pro_154 Some of us whom agree with this statement have seen or at least been around it. This man killed a parasite, a husk pretending to be human. He made the world, even if by a tiny percent, safer.
Death is just the bi product.
I made the statement for me. There will be those who agree, and those who do not.
I appreciate your opinion, but death to a parasite is an inoculation. Not murder.
You don't consider death when you step on a cockroach do you?
I have read the case and there is no mention of rape. Rather, it states the girl had gone on a date and had sex with the man. Jealousy was the motive. An unarmed man is ambushed by two men with weapons. Listening to this guy talk, you'd think he was a hero. He probably believes it himself but the law did not agree. He is, in fact, a cowardly murderer. There is no virtue in this person. Even when he has served his time he wants to present himself as a hero with no regard for the family of the victim. The evidence suggests that he is lying.
Yes, but look at the comments! Everyone lapping it up. How anyone can believe this guy without having read the case is beyond me. Praising a murderer is absolutely sick!
People will believe anything with out question. So gullible.
This ain’t a killing this is justice. Big ups!
It’s hard to be a shield, you have to take it all on and make sure the one you are protecting can sleep peacefully.
You said it perfectly
I looked up the article of this and rape isnt mentioned once says his friends bird was cheating on him with another guy so they went and killed him
If you listen to what he said, the “women” took a plea for an assault charge so they couldn’t use the argument in court that they went to scare him due to him R the women, so essentially they was battling a straight murder / manslaughter charge.
The story dont add up.
Either way, people should have a chance to defend themselves in court. He never gave him the chance to explain his side of the story. Why did no one report anything to the police?
He killed an innocent person . The police had text messages that the girl consented . The girl lied to cover it up. This dude should rott in jail
@@bigt4837 Proof ?
It’s a Liberty never heard from his friend or the girl again . And this man done the hard bird for them . Smh
THANK YOU for your service, Black King Warrior. I already know you getting all the fruit from your sacrifice.
She set him up. She was convicted for conspiracy to assault which means she made it up to get that guy beaten up. Also the reason she wasn't at his trial. This dude is still oblivious to it...
Respect to this brudda! Exactly what sikhi is about, helping the helpless and standing up for what's right no matter the cost! RESPECT!
Can’t believe how many people on here gassed up like this some righteous dude.
Lol ikr murdered someone just based off someone's word, someone who took a plea deal and didn't tell him to go the police
The world is a better place when there’s one less rapist in it
I started this video thinking I would hate you for what you've done without regret, but I can at least understand your point of view now I've watched your video.
It makes me think that if we can only listen to each other, we could live a lot easier. Good luck with your music. Regards, Hugh
this was brilliant ...well done sir ...Tim.London.U.K
The annoying thing with the judicial system is that 9 times out of 10 cps are the stalling block and the reason things take so long to get sorted. I get theres good and bad in every walk of life and the police aren't to be excused. I grew up on an estate, the police were a big presence back in those days but I found the majority were good hard working family people. They are evidence gathers they put the evidence to cps, they take it to court and this is where the weakness seems to be.
I feel so sorry for anyone, man woman child who ever finds themself in this situation, it should never happen. Wow it's such a powerful topic.
To the survivors, don't let the criminals win your are strong and the majority of the world backs you!! Respect.
It's scary how people just take his word for it. If you look into the case, he ain't the anti hero.
Yea, he told the story on another podcast and the story was different, and you are right, in the actual case none of them said anything about rape, it was just a honey trap over jealousy
Every violent scum bag I've ever known had some bullshit virtuous excuse on hand if they got caught. Him raising his voice and trying to intimidate when she asked about if it should have been handled by the police was a big red flag. Not doing it because 15 years after the incident, one cop out of 130,000 in the country turned out to be a rapist himself is poor reasoning. If he said they get too light of sentences often he'd have a point. I'd have to know a girl extremely well to risk killing somebody and/or getting locked up on account of her story. He made a stupid choice any way you cut it.
What podcast
He acted with no evidence other than this woman’s word for it who went into a bedroom with a man alone to “chat”. Sometimes regret on the female part can be twisted into saying she was attacked.
First thought
LADbible TV, do you call soldiers "Murderers" as well? While most of the times they really are? You re-judge your guest and label him. 'You're not a defender; you're a murderer.' Bravo.
Thank everything good for LADbible
This man is a kind-hearted hero. He should be praised and admired for his actions, not put in jail. The justice system is skewed.
if everyone thinks like that than people start killing everybody
you don't have any logic
Lol no man 😭 he took a life even if his heart was in the right place and his reason was valid you can't be praised for taking a life even he knows this you can hear it by the way he talked about it
@@Nicholaslandumamabuky you don't have any morals.
so we're going to go around calling all killers kind-hearted now? I can say this is a rather unique case, but perhaps all killers are somewhat kindhearted then?
One of Ladbibles most open and honest clips, if that girl was able to testify, there is no way a jury would of convicted them of anything
It’s illegal to plan, and then attack someone with weapons. Doesn’t matter if you think they deserve it or not
Please turn your life to Christ whilst you still can listen in the bible it says “ they’ll be wars and rumours of wars” the rapture is about to happen anytime now you do not want to be left behind please make the right choice repent of your sins and turn away from them we don’t have much longer left may God bless your soul 🙏
It’s a honey trap
She saved herself in the end
@@youngfrench6451 I didn’t even think of it like that
A lot we don't know here to be quite frank. I googled his name and reports from the time suggest that, at least on the prosecution account of events, this was a revenge attack for the girl having slept with the victim and that she was used to lure the victim to the location of the murder. Dead men tell no tales, so we will never really know what happened; we just have his word.
I like this man! Hope things work out for him.
I hope he has a fantastic life from here on. He sacrificed his peak years of enjoyment for what was right.
There being an understandable reason behind the crime doesn't make the crime alright. We shouldn't take it into our own hands to decide who lives and who doesn't, no matter the crime.
There will always be a time in your life when you wish someone wasn't alive.
He's in his peak years now
I'm embarrassed for your comment. There was no evidence of rape, not even mentioned in court or to the police. Why? Yet you hope a murderer has a fantastic life
@@kylejones8891 imagine jumping to defend someone accused of rape. u hate women
If your peak years of enjoyment are 19-35 then it’s probably time to re-evaluate your life tbh
This is tragic tale and, listening to Mr Allen's story, you can't help but respect his honesty about what and why he did what he did. I certainly don't think he woke up that morning and, along with his friend, decided to kill someone that day. It does not seem to be premeditated murder. Manslaughter, yes but not murder. I have have two grown-up daughters and I defy anyone to not agree with the 'justice' that was metered out to the victim. Being a victim of rape or sexual assault is a life sentence of emotional damage and pain. Had the victim survived his injuries, people may have said he had what was coming to him. However, from what was said, it seems he was a sexual predator and indeed, had he lived, may have doubtless gone on to attack many other young women before he was caught. So, to that end, as Mr Allen puts it, there is one less rapist walking the earth. Mr Allen also points out that going to the police would have been a waste of time, principally because people of colour are treated differently by the justice system. We know, from countless reports about institutional racism endemic across many police forces, that he has a point. Secondly, as he correctly referenced, Wayne Couzens, a serving officer in the Met, abducted, raped and murdered Sarah Everard. Trust in the police force, particularly in densely-populated cities, is at an all-time low. In the end, Mr. Allen has served his time and is attempting to turn his life around. I wish him the best of British luck.
Honestly nobody deserves to die over rape, beat someone's ass but not kill them. Most time rape isn't like TV where it's aggressive and you throw the other person around, something can get out of hand and you can get caught up, it doesn't mean you are this big bad person because you technically raped a girl. This is someone's kid, you don't understand life yet, a rapist family doesn't have to cry their eyes out because of a mistake their kid made, it doesn't make him worthless because he raped a girl. Everybody has the right to live, rape is not murder, so there is no reason to take someone's life for it
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Or perhaps rather, you personally "can't help" but *assume* his "honesty". Despite none of it adding up. You're not alone & what u said about the justice system IS accurate, but we can't allow it to cloud our judgment, as none of that has any bearing on his guilt or innocence. I wanted to believe him too yet, as others have layed out in great detail, the whole thing is simply not credible, even if it reinforces a narrative we feel strongly about. In fact, that's precisely when it's most important to be mindful of our inherent biases.
Please understand, I'm not unsympathetic to your inclination. Quite the opposite, actually. Indeed that's how I'm able to recognize it. You see, I too distrust the justice system, despise the police, & support victims who castrate or even kill their abusers. I speak from experience, as I've been guilty of allowing my passion for "justice" to override my commitment to evidence & reason, causing me to jump the gun on many occasion. Until, inevitably, it was my own " uncompromising principles" (uneasonable self-righeous zeal), my own convinctions, which lead to my conviction...
Best of luck.
He got a friend to help him beat this man with bats, what did they think was going to happen? You hit someone in the head with a baseball bat once and they might die from just that.
btw I was in the middle of something so I fucked that message up
Thank you for your service to this country Mr Ofill Allen. You are indeed a defender. You were spot on every second of this interview.
What happens if she was not legit about the story? I wonder if he would of really met with her when she phoned him, it sounds strange - read the whole story on the net.
'Service to this country's Sorry are you comparing this guy to a soldier?
@@MosesDeLaRoses No. I am simply saying he has serviced the country where the legal system wouldn't.
@@corporealcasimir4885 And you believe absolutely every word he says, despite the fact that rape wasn't mentioned once at his trial
@@MosesDeLaRoses I don't believe every word he says. That's because they didn't want the jury to be prejudiced about him doing what he did as a form of vigilantism.
That doesn't mean he didn't kill a rapist, it means our legal systems set the rules in particular ways.
You're either purposefully being dense or have skin in this game, considering you seem to be knowledgeable about his trial.
Gave me chills “ i defended something for the right reason”
When your caught up in gangs and you have a reputation as a hard nut and your friends ask you for help I would say that its bloody hard to get out of that situation . As a young man he got way to long sentence he even admitted that he didn't realize that he'd killed him
Why are you putting things in the story that weren't said? This is not a movie this is someones life. He didn't say he was in a gang He said his best friend told him what happened and he handled what needed to be handled.
@@justme-ew3ri no evidence of rape. Not even a mention rape in court from the women. His embarrassing effort to smear the police saying they are rapists is enough to understand how dense he is
@@kylejones8891 This has nothing to do with my comment you are delusional. That’s known that police are rapists and abusers and killers, they are not above being awful people, and the fact that it’s so many of them plus they have a false sense of reality and have so much power a whole lot of them are bound to be awful or not be the ones to stop the awful or will just go along with the awful. Your career has nothing to do with who you are as a person. He also didn’t say they all were he talked of a true account. So imagine just adding so much you’ve muddled what he actually said. Also who cares, you all love to give men the benefit of the doubt time and time again. The fact that two different people said something has happened gets weird and you still have no evidence that he didn’t do it.
@@justme-ew3ri A man was murdered with no evidence of rape and your so mentally ill that you think it's somehow acceptable. The women who was apparently raped didn't tell the courts or provide any evidence, even though she was punished for being involved in the murder. That's strange to any normal and healthy functioning adult. No women has gone on record and said the man in question did anything, it's only his word that this is true. The original comment is likely more correct than anything you've waffled. His boy friend was likely jealous of the man having sex with his ex and he got roped into backing his friend up. They then arranged to meet him and hurt him but instead killed him. Instead of facing murder charges they claimed it was because the ex was raped...
Few flaws in that, 1. The women never mentioned anything about being raped in court or to the police. 2. If she was raped then I'm sure the rapist wouldn't go along with wanting to meet her again after
When and where did he say he was caught up in gangs?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?
What a good guy! We need more people to stand up for whats right! As long as the person is fully guilty that is!
It's just not worth throwing your life away for someone that is going to forget about you and possibly put themselves in another situation you can't protect them from when you are behind bars. If she were family, that would be totally different. But I wouldn't do it for a girl with a story that I can't even validate and be certain is 100% true.
If the part about him using the girl as a shield is true then that suggests hes guilty, if he were innocent and was just looking to hook up with a girl when two bloked with bats show up you would assume it was an attack targeted at the both of you, but he used her as a shield suggesting that he instantly knew the attack was made on her behalf suggesting he knew he had done something to her to suggest retrubution.
That being said I doubt everything here, its unfortunate that the only people who can corroberate the story that the deceased was a rapist are those who were in on the murder. Maybe theyre telling the truth maybe not.
@@sernoddicusthegallant6986 If you google this man's name the news stories from the time report the girl and the victim went on a date prior to having sex. Given the conviction and lets presume there was evidence, I think the most likely story is that the girl cheated and then claimed rape.
Not going to lie, I would do the same. I mean it's hard to get a story/proof from a rape victim but it's even worse to get one from a girl. I'm a girl and if a guy told me he got raped, I would have an easier time believing it over a girl unless I knew her personally. If I didn't know her and she said someone raped her, I would partially be skeptical because were you actually raped or are you using your gender and anatomy to frame a guy because of a grudge or something similar? In this case, it was obvious that the rapist was guilty but if if someone told me the story and wanted me to do something, I'd mostly stay out of it since I don't want to be apart of whatever happened.
He is a giver, he wears his heart on his sleeve willing to take risks for others to do the right thing in his heart and mind, truly a beautiful selfless person that can be rare to find in this world these days.
he took someones life.
@@imthepopcornmanHe did the world a favor for its injustices.
@@coochiedroplet No, Google this mans name. It appears what actually happened is that the girlfriend cheated on the other murderer and claimed rape. This man is trash.
I remember watching him tell this story on Delinquent nation podcast on YT, it’s an hour long but I really do recommend everyone head there to hear this man’s story in detail!
Do you have a link to it please?
I saw this comment as well and tried to look for it and found it. Here it is:
ua-cam.com/video/P95VPrPF8Uk/v-deo.html
If you listen the story is slightly different in that podcast. Suspect!
Love this guy....hes a defender 💙🤝
To be declared a murderer, that directly implies the life of a human was taken.
That wasn't a human. That was a toxic collection of matter that was a threat to humans.
People calling this guy a hero need to actually read up on this case. Zero mention of sexual abuse or rape just that the girl did date him and sleep with him. No wonder she took a plea and didn't want to go to court. Majority of the blows with the bats came when the dude was defensively flat out in the street as well unlike what he claims.
Yes exactly, but people praising this man on matters they don’t understand. According to court reports it was a jealous boyfriend and his friend who murdered a man for sleeping with his girlfriend. This man shows absolutely no remorse!
Was looking for a comment like this.
Didn't believe the story.
You must not know much about how the court documents things. Doesn't matter what really happened, things often get twisted and falsely documented. No wonder she didn't want to go to court is right, they changed her story and nobody would have believed her with them documenting it that way.
@@emilyjane9901 ok Amber
@@emilyjane9901 oh she told you that did she?
Facts over speculation from people who have no idea about the case!
No contact from girl after a 10 year jail term??
Tells you everything you need to know about this story 🤔
Question everything listen to nothing.
He killed an innocent person . The police had text messages that the girl consented . The girl lied to cover it up. This dude should rott in jail
@@bigt4837 grammar
White knight syndrome
@@bigt4837 than the woman should go to jail also for making him believe that story in the first place.
@@nimmha6708 they should . If you falsly acusse someone of rape you should be thrown in jail.
Sadly there is no equality in the failed legal system and women are above the law
These interviews change your perspective.. wild
Big Respect To This Man 🙏 World Would Be A Better Place With More People Like Him ❤️🥊
it’s interesting to see the thought process of different people from different backgrounds and experiences
@Pina harsa---💞 no one cares you joke ting 🤣🤣🤣
No you are seeing the thought process of one person. Don't stereotype you'll be wrong.