I was already thinking about a way of doing that.. as soon as I saw its ability I thought. Switch it in on a fire type attack to get the speed boost Rockslide and heat crash for stab, heavy slam or earthquake for a strong attacking move. And if you know a water or ground type attack is coming use burn up, to get make both X4 weaknesses only x2 and hopefully survive to activate weakness policy. Congrats you now have doubled attack stats and X4 speed *Edit finished video and realized you thought the same thing for the gimmick set lol*
Investing in HP is always bad in Pokemon attacks increase in damage geometrically speaking while EV are arithmetical So for instance a Chansey has 5 Base defense so if you duplicate the amount he will take half the damage while duplicating only takes around 50 points in ev but since it already has over 600 hp if you give those 60 points to HPyou are only increasing it by 10% instead of 100% of defensesoulcore taking kids it is better to invest on defenses rather than HP in almost any single case since HP is usually highest that in any Pokemon
Yh i was expecting the rolycoly line to be the fast fire rock type, with the whole wheel concept as well as the ability... Cause just those two types plus earthquake gives a good bit of coverage
Pokémon follow themes rather than objects most of the time. The line was focused on coal making steam energy that started the industrial revolution in Britain. Of course a furnace/coal engine makes more sense than say a steam boat.
I was hoping it would turn into a steam locomotive, which imo would make more sense looking at the evolution line. A coal wheel thingy into a mine cart into a steam locomotive
Yeah most of the big dudes, like Aggron, golem and Rhydon, do. But this thing has good all round bulk whereas the others only really have good physical bulk, so there's that... plus it has way more utility options!
I find using burn up to take away quad weakness helps, baits the enemy into using a water move then bam, speed boost without being OHKO’d theoretically.
To make use of Steam Engine, I suggest running a Passho Berry, which halves the damage of a super effective Water type move by 50% (making it much more likely Coalossal will actually survive a Water type hit, and thus activate Steam Engine).
@@overdrive6543 While true, this would cause Coalosasal to be extremely vulnerable to priority. A set with a Passho Berry however could actually still be relatively healthy after a Water type attack, which can keep offensive pressure on your opponent for longer. An interesting combination could be Passho Berry + Burn Up, to lose the Fire typing and thus take only neutral damage from a Water type move if you still have the Passho Berry, or you could just take the hit while still a Fire Type, Burn Up, and have a regular 2x weakness afterwards. This would be especially useful on Will o' Wisp, Rapid Spin, Earth Power, and Scald sets (anything except a Fire type attacking set).
@@overdrive6543 More tools and opportunities shouldn't be seen as a downside. Rather, we as the competitive battlers should acknowledge these additions, and plan accordingly to counteract them. Pokemon is a game of strategy, from every set on every Pokemon, to the Pokemon you choose: be it for their typing, moves, abilities, stats, or any combination of those, or other factors.
@@overdrive6543 Thank you lol though if you want to strictly play competitive, there's a site called Pokemon Showdown where you can simply build teams with the EVs, IVs, moves, abilities, items, and anything else you can think of from scratch. This video's (and many others on this and John's channel) text format used to show off each set is compatible with Pokemon Showdown, to plug into "inport/export". But I find it personally easier and better to build my Pokemon from scratch, to make sure they have all the moves, EVs, nature, abilities, items, etc that I want them to have. And unlike Sword and Shield, the site is already working on a format called "National Dex", which adds all previous material from all previous Pokemon games, but adds Gen 8 mechanics/updates, Pokemon, and items to the mix. And, there's a special mode known as "CAP", which stands for Create A Pokemon, which are fan-made Pokemon designed for the OU Tier. That tier/format is basically the National Dex (beta) tier, but with 20+ unique fan-made Pokemon. And let me tell you, this site is a blast if you love Pokemon battling.
@@overdrive6543 I would, but I sadly don't have any of the main Pokemon games since Gen 5. I wasn't able to afford a 3Ds and now I definitely won't be able to afford a switch lol
@@WitheredLordWolfyAbout Could you also set up the sun to reduce water moves by 50% more along with boosting fire type moves? The amount of damage you would take with that berry plus the sun up would really help out.
1:13 "No one thought this Pokemon was going to be fast, and if you did you're crazy. I don't know what's going on in that noggin." I don't know, maybe some people thought we might be getting a rock locomotive or motorcycle based on the wheeled wonder that is Rolycoly. Also, you could activate Steam Engine by having a partner use Incinerate. It's only 60 base power and as long as Coalossal isn't holding a berry it won't cause too many problems.
@@InsanelyMclean how would it be op when this thing is still 4x weak to Ground ( one of the most common offensive types ) and 2x weak to Stealth Rock. They should've given Steam Engine that immunity buff, since otherwise this thing will just get killed before it can use it's +6 speed into use.
@@Dhimo758 Point one: It learns scald. Point two: heavy duty boots. +6 speed with immunity to fire and water would make this thing an unstoppable beast.
@@InsanelyMclean sorry man, but an 80 damage dealing non STAB attack coming off of an 80 base SP.A isn't going to do much damage even if we factor in super effectiviness ( it might do 40% + hp, but not enough to kill the Pokemon ), let alone the fact if it ever gets a turn to use Scald. + a Sweeper shouldn't run Heavy Duty Boots in the first place, wouldn't it be more beneficial to use a damage boosting item like Life Orb or Band/Specs ( or if you're really ambitous, Weakness Policy ). A Pokemon with 80 base attacking stats, with 2 immunities that give it the max speed possible wouldn't be unstoppable at all, it'd be a threat, but nothing overpowered.
ZachyCrappy Look at stakataka that mon was ridiculous but then again it could get a moxie by making its base defense IV 15 with lonely nature and it’s had pretty decent stats
I keep waiting for the doubles sets/strategies on these videos, just for them to be like an honorable mentions kind of part D: Doesn't change the fact that these videos are really informative either way! They're nice as they put focus on a single pokemon at a time, with a super useful overview as the intro.
You may be able to combo this with Drought Torkoal and Lava Plume to proc Steam Engine while also hitting the opponent with a drought-boosted move. Now you have +4 speed, with only a normal weakness to water due to Drought, and your fire moves will hit harder, and you've likely broken any sashes with Lava Plume.
I'm excited for arctozolt to get slush rush. It's already an interesting mon with electric ice coverage in beak and ice crash and it has a few coverage moves like low kick, stomping tantrum, and stone edge. It also gets pluck which can be used for max airstream. 55 speed sucks but it's about to be a true demon when slush rush comes out.
There's one moveset I've been thinking of since Rolycoly and Steam Engine were revealed: In doubles, Weakness Policy + Steam Engine + Endure coupled with a Surf teammate. It's risky and vulnerable to priority and status but you basically get a Shell Smash with triple speed boost. (I don't have the games so I can't try this myself but I wanted to make a suggestion)
Maybe run Steam Engine with Assault Vest and SpD investment so it can reliably eat water attacks. Or maybe Passho Berry and Burn up to get rid of quad weakness.
Here's a set I'm gonna run. Lemme know if I should tweak it: Item: Assault Vest Ability: Steam Engine Body Press Heat Crash Earthquake Hidden Power (Rock) G-Max?: Yes This set is meant to make him a tanky sweeper. I'm gonna train it in mix bulk sweeper. The idea of Assault Vest is to swap him into a water move to tank the hit and get off the 6+ speed boost. That way I can start sweeping and have the bulk to take hits. I will run stuff like Dugtrio as a lead for rocks or something else that can do rocks and spikes. Idk it's a fun concept for Coalossal.
Anyone else think this looks kinda like a Galarian Aggron? Or at least a Galarian-specific alternate evolution to it, like Runerigus? Anyway I love it, though I had retire my Laval Titan from my playthrough team because Centiskorch fit my team better, though he does still help on some really tough Max Raids, especially yesterday when I had to catch a 5-star, Lv. 70 G-Max Centiskorch solo (kinda ironic that it's a Centiskorch of all things). A true mad lad right here.
Personally I run Coalossal with Assault Vest and full offensive moveset to ensure it can take a Water-type move (with Dynamax it always survives, without Dynamax it sadly falls often) and then proceed to hit hard, but your builds seem much better. I love this guy, such a unique Pokemon!
Actually there is this japanese strat with coalossal paired with dragapult in doubles. You used jolly nature dragapult with 0 iv in sp.atk, let coalossal use dynamax, let dragapult use surf, activating steam engine and weakness policy, then start sweeping from there.
I don't see the point of rock polish on the Steam Engine set. You might as well use Endure to ensure you can actually live a water hit from anything or Stealth Rock/Reflect so you can do something useful if you can't fish for fire/water moves hitting you.
I have a coalossal with tar shot, flame charge, heat crash and rock slide. Flame charge for the speed, tar shot for extra damage on flame charge and heat crash and rock slide for damage.
I’d run endure on the last set so you can survive a water hit and activate it’s abilities. It’s better than relying on getting hit by defensive Pokemon
Coalossal is one of my all time FAVORITE Sw/Sh pokemon! I took the time to hunt mine for not only the Steam Engine Ability but also the Relaxed Nature to boost it's Defense even higher & lower it's Speed cause why not? Only Base 30. My setup that I have been using is - Item - Muscle Band/Leftovers Moves - Stone Edge, Flare Blitz, Earthquake, Burn Up I was using Heat Crash for awhile but found out it does not work against Dynamax Pokemon so changed to Flare Blitz for general play.
It would’ve been cool if the rolycoly line had 2 final evolutions, one being Coalossal and the other being more like a train and having higher base speed
I'm not sure if I agree with this thing being a sweeper. Only 80 Base attack and Special Attack isn't remarkable enough to be one shotting a lot of stuff when you're also dealing with rock inaccuracies and the fact that you're already investing max speed due to its pitiful 30 speed so even if you do survive a water move somehow or swap into fire you'll not be able to take advantage of mixed attack stats.
I think he would fit best in doubles. You can fix his speed stat if your partner uses speed swap (espeon?). And he would be amazing in a Trick Room scenario due to his good coverage and spread moves
now what I think would push this pokemon over the edge is if steam engine gave it an immunity to water and fire type attacks which would remove one of its greatest weaknesses in its 4 times water weakness
AV would be decent with the heavy duty boots set with earth power. In doubles I could see coalossal going well with hatterene. Hatterene would help speed control with trick room. Could activate steam engine with mystical fire. Could help boost the disappointing 80 atk with helping hand and can help bad match ups like with fighting types. Coalossal can help hatterene with steel types. Coalossal looks really fun but I can’t see it being viable in vgc. It might make it to RU in singles (because of hazards and rapid spin) Being slow with a rock fire typing sucks, it has a ton of weaknesses, usually attacks last and doesn’t have a good enough attack stat to justify how easy it is to knock out. Even if you do trick room. This mon doesn’t have threatening attack or special attack. There are a lot of popular mons that counter and check this mon (Excadrill,dracovish,gastrodon). It’s too bad coalassol is cool.
I'm thinking; Steam engine Weakness policy Adamant nature 252 HP 172 Attack 80 Speed Heat crash Stone Edge Gyro ball Stealth Rock Idea is that it's slow enough to counter/make use of trick room and when hit by a fire/water type move it can be a speedy sweeper.
My Coalossal with Adament Nature has the ability Flame Body and I gave it the item Rocky Helmet which I accidentally found to be very good battling trainers. If any Pokémon uses a Physical move they are sure to get burned and take a good amount of damage from Rocky Helmet. This also helped take down the attacking Pokémon when my Coalossal fainted to a Physical move. It's hilarious to watch this occur a lot XD I may end up trying this for battling real people to see if it's good for competitive battling, but who knows how it'll turn out.
The set I run is :- Nature: Jolly Ability: Steam Engine Item: Weakness Policy EVs: 252Hp, 252Atk, 4Spe Moves: Fire Punch, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Iron Head Jolly nature with 4 speed EVs is enough to outspeed Dragapult as well.
Is steam engine it’s hidden ability? The way smogon listed it it would seem that way, but also the only one I caught so far has that ability so did I just get lucky or is it’s signature ability common?
Nope it gets 2 abilities as normal. You can use an ability capsule (50 BP) to switch to the other one and use the website Serebii to check abilities each mon gets
Definitely using Coalossal when I play Sword since I'll be starting with Sobble but I'll have Coalossal on my Shield team even though I'm starting with Scorbunny in Shield. For the Galar PokeMon Championship in Sword I'll definitely be using Coalossal.
Hey here is an idea of a good long running series. Basically game freak has expressed a lack of care in fixing, buffing, and over all just giving other pokemon a chance in high level play, so for the series you would go through everything and tweak it so power scaling isn't as much of an issue for example the rock type is generally not very good in OU seeing as the only pokemon their are tyranitar and mega diancie last generation so buffing the rock type to make it more viable would be great by removing its weakness to ground types and maybe adding a resistance to a type so that it could function much better as a defensive type this would generally improve the overall ability for pokemon of those types to excel as they don't have to worry as much about the omnipresent earthquake
seriously remove the rock types weakness to ground, and give it a resistance to its self and pokemon like magcargo will shoot up the laters as they become much more usable with only a 2 times weakness to ground types and not weakness to rock types meaning it could actually function
I think he is the only Pokémon where his Unevolved form is faster, the steam engine strat is op for nfe mode or you could even run it in normal if you prefer it to be faster but a little weaker
One of the things that annoy me about Gen VIII is that weight based moves dont work on max mons,they are really uncommon and situational and being able to work on max mons could have given them a niche
Really never use flash fire. Steam engine is much better on all offensive sets and flame body on defensive sets. You already 4x resist fire and the +6 speed is better than powering up fire moves.
steam engine should've given it a water immunity or decrease its damage by a few stages, it wouldnt be that too op since it still has another x4 weakness and few others
For another double battle set, have coalossal have steam engine and your partner know heat wave giving that speed boost while harming your opponents with minimal damage to coalossal.
I guess you could try switching in to a Galarian Corsola's or a Toxapex Scald, although the ladder gets STAB so keep that in mind. Kinda disappointed in this Pokemon.
Body press scales with that huge 120 defense. The base 80 keeps its huge sweeping threat in check however, I agree but it’s fun for steam rolling teams to have counters like massive bulk.
It's actually by 6, check the status in battle when you use it. Or use it at the Battle Tower then hit it with a fire move. It's speed will be fully maxed out.
I really hate that this guy doesn't get power gem. For special, you're stuck with ancientpower... I didn't think this thing would be fast, but I had hoped the middle evo would be fast since it has wheels
Who wants to try a Steam Engine sweeper set? xD
Water and Fire types *F e a r* my Coal monster
Are you going to do toxtricity?
I was already thinking about a way of doing that.. as soon as I saw its ability I thought. Switch it in on a fire type attack to get the speed boost
Rockslide and heat crash for stab, heavy slam or earthquake for a strong attacking move. And if you know a water or ground type attack is coming use burn up, to get make both X4 weaknesses only x2 and hopefully survive to activate weakness policy. Congrats you now have doubled attack stats and X4 speed
*Edit finished video and realized you thought the same thing for the gimmick set lol*
Would you consider doing Orbeetle? I think it would be really good in doubles once Gigantimax gets allowed
Investing in HP is always bad in Pokemon attacks increase in damage geometrically speaking while EV are arithmetical
So for instance a Chansey has 5 Base defense so if you duplicate the amount he will take half the damage while duplicating only takes around 50 points in ev but since it already has over 600 hp if you give those 60 points to HPyou are only increasing it by 10% instead of 100% of defensesoulcore taking kids it is better to invest on defenses rather than HP in almost any single case since HP is usually highest that in any Pokemon
I am just disappointed he wasn't faster and more mobile. His first form is literally on a wheel. Now he's just Fire Golem + Rhyperior = Coalaossal
I did expect that tbh, but it does make sense with his final evo design. At least he keeps Steam Engine - when it activates you quadruple your speed!
Yh i was expecting the rolycoly line to be the fast fire rock type, with the whole wheel concept as well as the ability... Cause just those two types plus earthquake gives a good bit of coverage
foofootoo
How does it make sense?
The bipedal design where it’s prevos gained more wheels felt off.
Pokémon follow themes rather than objects most of the time. The line was focused on coal making steam energy that started the industrial revolution in Britain. Of course a furnace/coal engine makes more sense than say a steam boat.
I was hoping it would turn into a steam locomotive, which imo would make more sense looking at the evolution line. A coal wheel thingy into a mine cart into a steam locomotive
this video foreshadowed coalossal’s extreme success in VGC
For some reason I thought this thing would have a lot more attack
Yeah most of the big dudes, like Aggron, golem and Rhydon, do. But this thing has good all round bulk whereas the others only really have good physical bulk, so there's that... plus it has way more utility options!
@@foofootoo Thanks for the video, I'll have to look into using this beast know.
He’s a bulky boi.
Yh like 120 or something
I find using burn up to take away quad weakness helps, baits the enemy into using a water move then bam, speed boost without being OHKO’d theoretically.
c_o_o_l_c_a_t does burn up activate steam engine?
Jon Bala No, but it’ll get rid of the fire typing for the rest of battle, so it makes it more likely to survive a water move.
Yeah, if you survive the water attack before you even use burn up...
Non Zamfir you make a good point, ouch.
@@Nonx47 That's why you use it when they switch something in on it. You need good prediction but once you pull it off it is worth it.
imagine a really heavy pokemon, lets say he's worth 4 tons, charging towards u 98km/H. now imagine he's in gigantamax form.
Oh hell no, the sheer kinetic energy alone woild decimate mountains that he collides with.
To make use of Steam Engine, I suggest running a Passho Berry, which halves the damage of a super effective Water type move by 50% (making it much more likely Coalossal will actually survive a Water type hit, and thus activate Steam Engine).
@@overdrive6543 While true, this would cause Coalosasal to be extremely vulnerable to priority. A set with a Passho Berry however could actually still be relatively healthy after a Water type attack, which can keep offensive pressure on your opponent for longer. An interesting combination could be Passho Berry + Burn Up, to lose the Fire typing and thus take only neutral damage from a Water type move if you still have the Passho Berry, or you could just take the hit while still a Fire Type, Burn Up, and have a regular 2x weakness afterwards. This would be especially useful on Will o' Wisp, Rapid Spin, Earth Power, and Scald sets (anything except a Fire type attacking set).
@@overdrive6543 More tools and opportunities shouldn't be seen as a downside. Rather, we as the competitive battlers should acknowledge these additions, and plan accordingly to counteract them. Pokemon is a game of strategy, from every set on every Pokemon, to the Pokemon you choose: be it for their typing, moves, abilities, stats, or any combination of those, or other factors.
@@overdrive6543 Thank you lol though if you want to strictly play competitive, there's a site called Pokemon Showdown where you can simply build teams with the EVs, IVs, moves, abilities, items, and anything else you can think of from scratch. This video's (and many others on this and John's channel) text format used to show off each set is compatible with Pokemon Showdown, to plug into "inport/export". But I find it personally easier and better to build my Pokemon from scratch, to make sure they have all the moves, EVs, nature, abilities, items, etc that I want them to have. And unlike Sword and Shield, the site is already working on a format called "National Dex", which adds all previous material from all previous Pokemon games, but adds Gen 8 mechanics/updates, Pokemon, and items to the mix. And, there's a special mode known as "CAP", which stands for Create A Pokemon, which are fan-made Pokemon designed for the OU Tier. That tier/format is basically the National Dex (beta) tier, but with 20+ unique fan-made Pokemon. And let me tell you, this site is a blast if you love Pokemon battling.
@@overdrive6543 I would, but I sadly don't have any of the main Pokemon games since Gen 5. I wasn't able to afford a 3Ds and now I definitely won't be able to afford a switch lol
@@WitheredLordWolfyAbout Could you also set up the sun to reduce water moves by 50% more along with boosting fire type moves? The amount of damage you would take with that berry plus the sun up would really help out.
...imagine having a fast pokemon with a weak move like ember just to set this thing up before anything happens.
You could really do that in doubles!
@@foofootoo interestingly, I feel like with that strategy, it would be viable in doubles as a bulky sweeper.
@@iceneko9170 nah +6 speed looks good until you look at the actual speed and realise its still outsped by a lot of the good pokes.
@@siinuxxblume5123 its outsped by a lot, but not all of them. Its bulk is its only redeeming factor there XP
itd still be interesting to try.
@@iceneko9170 He's attack stats are bad, you'd need to boost atk and speed, not only speed. Lava Plume is more useful than ember for that too.
He's pretty COAL imo...
They made a coal pun so I can as well
Next video: Why you should summon Karen against the manager.
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1:13 "No one thought this Pokemon was going to be fast, and if you did you're crazy. I don't know what's going on in that noggin." I don't know, maybe some people thought we might be getting a rock locomotive or motorcycle based on the wheeled wonder that is Rolycoly.
Also, you could activate Steam Engine by having a partner use Incinerate. It's only 60 base power and as long as Coalossal isn't holding a berry it won't cause too many problems.
They could just use ember or bubble
I suggested Incinerate because it’s more powerful and would have another use beside activating Steam Engine: Destroying the opponent’s berries.
@@primrosevale1995 Good point
Surf weavile is a set that people use with coalossal
If only Steam Engine made Fire and Water attacks an immunity
Immunity to fire/water and +6 would be way too OP. I would trade the +6 for immunity and +1 speed though.
@@InsanelyMclean how would it be op when this thing is still 4x weak to Ground ( one of the most common offensive types ) and 2x weak to Stealth Rock. They should've given Steam Engine that immunity buff, since otherwise this thing will just get killed before it can use it's +6 speed into use.
@@Dhimo758 Point one: It learns scald. Point two: heavy duty boots. +6 speed with immunity to fire and water would make this thing an unstoppable beast.
@@InsanelyMclean sorry man, but an 80 damage dealing non STAB attack coming off of an 80 base SP.A isn't going to do much damage even if we factor in super effectiviness ( it might do 40% + hp, but not enough to kill the Pokemon ), let alone the fact if it ever gets a turn to use Scald. + a Sweeper shouldn't run Heavy Duty Boots in the first place, wouldn't it be more beneficial to use a damage boosting item like Life Orb or Band/Specs ( or if you're really ambitous, Weakness Policy ). A Pokemon with 80 base attacking stats, with 2 immunities that give it the max speed possible wouldn't be unstoppable at all, it'd be a threat, but nothing overpowered.
ZachyCrappy Look at stakataka that mon was ridiculous but then again it could get a moxie by making its base defense IV 15 with lonely nature and it’s had pretty decent stats
Imagine if soak works in doubles. Turn coallosal into a water type, giving him max speed and stab scald to hit with
Guillermo Hernandez ooooo, I didn’t think of that, that’s a good idea!
That is genius
80 base sp att, so it hits like a luvdisc..
@@donlyphans7801 a luvdisc that will outspeed everything and has access to fire, rock, and other moves that actual luvdisc doesnt have
@@Guayabaman305who cares still hits weak af?
I keep waiting for the doubles sets/strategies on these videos, just for them to be like an honorable mentions kind of part D:
Doesn't change the fact that these videos are really informative either way! They're nice as they put focus on a single pokemon at a time, with a super useful overview as the intro.
You may be able to combo this with Drought Torkoal and Lava Plume to proc Steam Engine while also hitting the opponent with a drought-boosted move. Now you have +4 speed, with only a normal weakness to water due to Drought, and your fire moves will hit harder, and you've likely broken any sashes with Lava Plume.
I'm excited for arctozolt to get slush rush. It's already an interesting mon with electric ice coverage in beak and ice crash and it has a few coverage moves like low kick, stomping tantrum, and stone edge. It also gets pluck which can be used for max airstream. 55 speed sucks but it's about to be a true demon when slush rush comes out.
This is one of my favorite pokemon because it look like a combination of Golem and Rhyperior in one with an amazing design and well round stats.
Didn't think much about it and used it with steam engine... won my first showdown match with that combo lol
I freaking love coalossal steam engine, i was very surprised by how ridiculously fast this mon could get
There's one moveset I've been thinking of since Rolycoly and Steam Engine were revealed:
In doubles, Weakness Policy + Steam Engine + Endure coupled with a Surf teammate.
It's risky and vulnerable to priority and status but you basically get a Shell Smash with triple speed boost.
(I don't have the games so I can't try this myself but I wanted to make a suggestion)
You can test this out on pokemon showdown. Its a battle simulater for pokmon
Maybe run Steam Engine with Assault Vest and SpD investment so it can reliably eat water attacks. Or maybe Passho Berry and Burn up to get rid of quad weakness.
Here's a set I'm gonna run. Lemme know if I should tweak it:
Item: Assault Vest
Ability: Steam Engine
Body Press
Heat Crash
Earthquake
Hidden Power (Rock)
G-Max?: Yes
This set is meant to make him a tanky sweeper. I'm gonna train it in mix bulk sweeper. The idea of Assault Vest is to swap him into a water move to tank the hit and get off the 6+ speed boost. That way I can start sweeping and have the bulk to take hits. I will run stuff like Dugtrio as a lead for rocks or something else that can do rocks and spikes. Idk it's a fun concept for Coalossal.
I love using Coalossal on my team but honestly when I first saw its stats I was expecting higher in its physical or special attack
Anyone else think this looks kinda like a Galarian Aggron? Or at least a Galarian-specific alternate evolution to it, like Runerigus? Anyway I love it, though I had retire my Laval Titan from my playthrough team because Centiskorch fit my team better, though he does still help on some really tough Max Raids, especially yesterday when I had to catch a 5-star, Lv. 70 G-Max Centiskorch solo (kinda ironic that it's a Centiskorch of all things). A true mad lad right here.
Personally I run Coalossal with Assault Vest and full offensive moveset to ensure it can take a Water-type move (with Dynamax it always survives, without Dynamax it sadly falls often) and then proceed to hit hard, but your builds seem much better. I love this guy, such a unique Pokemon!
Coalossal can also learn Tar Shot which lowers the opposing Pokémon’s speed and makes them weaker to fire. Not sure if it could be used in a good set.
Doubles set: weakness policy, steam engine, use a level 1 pokemon as its partner and hit it with aqua jet
I think Volcanion should have the Steam Engine Ability.
Actually there is this japanese strat with coalossal paired with dragapult in doubles. You used jolly nature dragapult with 0 iv in sp.atk, let coalossal use dynamax, let dragapult use surf, activating steam engine and weakness policy, then start sweeping from there.
assault vest?
Would using life dew in doubles proc steam engine?
I don't see the point of rock polish on the Steam Engine set. You might as well use Endure to ensure you can actually live a water hit from anything or Stealth Rock/Reflect so you can do something useful if you can't fish for fire/water moves hitting you.
I have a coalossal with tar shot, flame charge, heat crash and rock slide. Flame charge for the speed, tar shot for extra damage on flame charge and heat crash and rock slide for damage.
I used this Pokémon in-game: and I loved it! It saved me from Leon’s Charizard when I had my back against the wall.
I’d run endure on the last set so you can survive a water hit and activate it’s abilities. It’s better than relying on getting hit by defensive Pokemon
Coalossal is one of my all time FAVORITE Sw/Sh pokemon!
I took the time to hunt mine for not only the Steam Engine Ability but also the Relaxed Nature to boost it's Defense even higher & lower it's Speed cause why not? Only Base 30.
My setup that I have been using is -
Item - Muscle Band/Leftovers
Moves - Stone Edge, Flare Blitz, Earthquake, Burn Up
I was using Heat Crash for awhile but found out it does not work against Dynamax Pokemon so changed to Flare Blitz for general play.
Something about coalossal's design reminds me of rhyperior.
It's the hexagons and the shade overall
What about Coalossal's signature ability Tar Shot?
This thing absolutely shreds most of the main story of SwSh, 110/120/90 defences, plus dynamax, is downright unstoppable.
Could you and john do a vid on Galar Darmanitan please, both zen-mode and gorilla tactics&choice scarf sets r really good
Double Choice Boost:
Darmanitan-Galar @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Gorilla Tactics
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Icicle Crash
- Earthquake
- Zen Headbutt/Flare Blitz
- U-turn
Zen-Mode:
Darmanitan-Galar @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Zen Mode
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Icicle Crash
- Flare Blitz
- Earthquake
- Belly Drum
I was sceptical about this but seeing the stats and the moves made me change my mind lol I just completed shield so I think I should train one 😁👌🏾
if I use a pokemon with sweeper rain and then swap out to coalossal will it activate steam engine?
Does iron defense affect body press? I mean I would assume it does but has anyone ran calcs?
It would’ve been cool if the rolycoly line had 2 final evolutions, one being Coalossal and the other being more like a train and having higher base speed
Gavin F how would you know/decide which you would get?
If +spe nature, train. If -spe nature, coalossal
rapid spin should be in utility or setup
What would happen if you hit it with a soak in doubles? would it still get the speed boost?
Anychance we could have the Why you shoud use Pykumuku?
I'm not sure if I agree with this thing being a sweeper. Only 80 Base attack and Special Attack isn't remarkable enough to be one shotting a lot of stuff when you're also dealing with rock inaccuracies and the fact that you're already investing max speed due to its pitiful 30 speed so even if you do survive a water move somehow or swap into fire you'll not be able to take advantage of mixed attack stats.
Why u should use sandaconda next?
I think he would fit best in doubles. You can fix his speed stat if your partner uses speed swap (espeon?). And he would be amazing in a Trick Room scenario due to his good coverage and spread moves
now what I think would push this pokemon over the edge is if steam engine gave it an immunity to water and fire type attacks which would remove one of its greatest weaknesses in its 4 times water weakness
Yes, YES! More puny punned pokemons!
AV would be decent with the heavy duty boots set with earth power.
In doubles I could see coalossal going well with hatterene. Hatterene would help speed control with trick room. Could activate steam engine with mystical fire. Could help boost the disappointing 80 atk with helping hand and can help bad match ups like with fighting types. Coalossal can help hatterene with steel types.
Coalossal looks really fun but I can’t see it being viable in vgc. It might make it to RU in singles (because of hazards and rapid spin) Being slow with a rock fire typing sucks, it has a ton of weaknesses, usually attacks last and doesn’t have a good enough attack stat to justify how easy it is to knock out. Even if you do trick room. This mon doesn’t have threatening attack or special attack. There are a lot of popular mons that counter and check this mon (Excadrill,dracovish,gastrodon). It’s too bad coalassol is cool.
Hey u know this is unrelated bro but do you know if gulp missile and morpeko ability are able to be skill swapped on a different pokemon and work?
Those abilities are too unique to those Pokemon. Those Pokemon have abilities that can't be swapped or copies, but they can be negated by Gastro Acid.
I'm thinking;
Steam engine
Weakness policy
Adamant nature
252 HP
172 Attack
80 Speed
Heat crash
Stone Edge
Gyro ball
Stealth Rock
Idea is that it's slow enough to counter/make use of trick room and when hit by a fire/water type move it can be a speedy sweeper.
Weakness policy coalossal using endure next to a mon using surf,
you could go physical or special!
I never expected it would become this viable!
What about doubles with weakness policy and steam engine partnered with something with surf
My Coalossal with Adament Nature has the ability Flame Body and I gave it the item Rocky Helmet which I accidentally found to be very good battling trainers. If any Pokémon uses a Physical move they are sure to get burned and take a good amount of damage from Rocky Helmet. This also helped take down the attacking Pokémon when my Coalossal fainted to a Physical move. It's hilarious to watch this occur a lot XD
I may end up trying this for battling real people to see if it's good for competitive battling, but who knows how it'll turn out.
Can you do why you should use Alcremie
The set I run is :-
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Steam Engine
Item: Weakness Policy
EVs: 252Hp, 252Atk, 4Spe
Moves: Fire Punch, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Iron Head
Jolly nature with 4 speed EVs is enough to outspeed Dragapult as well.
& now I want to restart my shield do water starter and use this with a careful nature maybe do tar shot but need to figure out some things
He gets so many speed boosting moves. Flame Charge, Ancient Power, Rock Polish, Rapid Spin. I had a Timid nature Coalossal in Shield.
Imagine a Steam Engine + Weakness policy combo.
Max Def EV, Max SPC Def EV, 4 Atk or SPC Atk
Rapid Spin, Stone Edge, Burn up, Earthquake
Wonder Trade Weekly WTWeekly once steam engine activates, can you still increase speed?
@@jonbullet5492 No.
I imagined it and never gonna use that
What’s a good physical fire attack I could use in place of flare blitz
You could use heat crash, or fire punch if you're okay with the low power.
Is steam engine it’s hidden ability? The way smogon listed it it would seem that way, but also the only one I caught so far has that ability so did I just get lucky or is it’s signature ability common?
Nope it gets 2 abilities as normal. You can use an ability capsule (50 BP) to switch to the other one and use the website Serebii to check abilities each mon gets
Definitely using Coalossal when I play Sword since I'll be starting with Sobble but I'll have Coalossal on my Shield team even though I'm starting with Scorbunny in Shield. For the Galar PokeMon Championship in Sword I'll definitely be using Coalossal.
Coalossal is very good with assault vest too, weakening moves like surf or flamethrower and getting that speed boost
Hey here is an idea of a good long running series. Basically game freak has expressed a lack of care in fixing, buffing, and over all just giving other pokemon a chance in high level play, so for the series you would go through everything and tweak it so power scaling isn't as much of an issue for example the rock type is generally not very good in OU seeing as the only pokemon their are tyranitar and mega diancie last generation so buffing the rock type to make it more viable would be great by removing its weakness to ground types and maybe adding a resistance to a type so that it could function much better as a defensive type this would generally improve the overall ability for pokemon of those types to excel as they don't have to worry as much about the omnipresent earthquake
seriously remove the rock types weakness to ground, and give it a resistance to its self and pokemon like magcargo will shoot up the laters as they become much more usable with only a 2 times weakness to ground types and not weakness to rock types meaning it could actually function
"steam engine is new"
*laughs in volcanion*
What? Volcanion doesn’t get Steam Engine.
I think assault vest rapid spinner is the way to go. atleast for me personally
the steam engine set didn't work very well for me lol
My sister loves this Pokemon
I think he is the only Pokémon where his Unevolved form is faster, the steam engine strat is op for nfe mode or you could even run it in normal if you prefer it to be faster but a little weaker
I wonder if life dew will proc steam engine...
One of the things that annoy me about Gen VIII is that weight based moves dont work on max mons,they are really uncommon and situational and being able to work on max mons could have given them a niche
Really never use flash fire. Steam engine is much better on all offensive sets and flame body on defensive sets. You already 4x resist fire and the +6 speed is better than powering up fire moves.
steam engine should've given it a water immunity or decrease its damage by a few stages, it wouldnt be that too op since it still has another x4 weakness and few others
I run a steam engine in doubles great Pokemon ughh lovebl the design myself too too
For another double battle set, have coalossal have steam engine and your partner know heat wave giving that speed boost while harming your opponents with minimal damage to coalossal.
Heat wave only affects the opposing 2 Pokemon, an area affect attack that would also be good paired with coalossal could be lava plume
You guys got any ne nicknames for him?
Steam engine set works in VGC
Coalossal after getting its Steam Engine boost:
_You don't have any idea how fast I am?_
*I'm fast AF boi!*
The Pokémon is so cute too, I love it 😍😍
Could you guys so Barraskewda
don't forget it gets a 1/4 resistance to fire so hitting it with a fire move isn't going to do anything
Burn Up Is a really useful move for him since he will lose all of that crazy 4x weaknesses
Can he even get burn up?
groudon gamer yes, by Level up
@@TheJaredPunch okay that's actually big brain right there.
I fuck with Coalossal, him and Dragapult are my fav gen 8’s
I guess you could try switching in to a Galarian Corsola's or a Toxapex Scald, although the ladder gets STAB so keep that in mind. Kinda disappointed in this Pokemon.
This thing could be much better if it had great attack or sp. atk, not 80 in both.
Body press scales with that huge 120 defense. The base 80 keeps its huge sweeping threat in check however, I agree but it’s fun for steam rolling teams to have counters like massive bulk.
Well i was going to use coalossal anyways now i want to use it even more since it seems it would be a tank and anyways fire type for team
Does Life Dew activate Steam Engine?
Wait 6 stages? I thought it was 3
it gets will o'wisp too, good for walling
Coalossal is like the monster from Monster Hunter World
Coalossal is Zorah Magdaros but as a pokemon.
coalossal
I use it.... im happy with coalossal
I’m pretty sure Steam Engine raises your speed by 3 stages not 6.
It's actually by 6, check the status in battle when you use it. Or use it at the Battle Tower then hit it with a fire move. It's speed will be fully maxed out.
I really hate that this guy doesn't get power gem. For special, you're stuck with ancientpower...
I didn't think this thing would be fast, but I had hoped the middle evo would be fast since it has wheels
I thought this mon was a fossilized magmortar with golem's face.
Give CARKOL an eviolite and it's defenses go HIGHER than Coalossal's. On top of that, it's FASTER than Carkol!