A Lutheran View of Justification - Snow Covered Dung or Real Growth of Holiness?!

A presentation of our new channel! Today we take a look at whether there is some truth to the argument against the Lutheran view of justification, namely that we merely teach a legal fiction and that growth of holiness, cooperation with God, and inward and habitual increase of justice is impossible!
OBS sorry about the bad sound quality and the not too great lighting, that will be fixed in the next video!

[@AncientAncestor]

Saw you on Paul's channel! Loved it alot! I agree entirely on the lack of a european perspective. Eagerly looking forward to more videos on classical confessional lutheran theology!😁

[@truthuntogodliness]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@WarrenWVa]

Thank you for this video Mikkel! I look forward to future ones.

[@vngelicath1580]

The Missourian voice has so dominated Lutheran conversation, and its assumptions (anti-episcopalism, Waltherian readings of the Concordia, etc). This kind of thing is important.

[@jackray1337]

I think this is a good first video for a channel. Thank you for the explanation.

[@lpcruz5661]

As for yourself, do you subscribe to the US synodical Lutheran (Waltherian) view ...the so called universal objective justtification?

[@barelyprotestant5365]

Excellent!

[@marcuswilliams7448]

*Forgive the accent* Proceeds to speak better English than most Americans.

[@truthuntogodliness]

Thanks a lot!

[@Jeff9828]

An introduction to the speaker's background would be helpful.

[@truthuntogodliness]

Good point! I'll add something

[@teetetomenon5658]

So this is potamopotas 👀

[@timee3221]

Great video! Only complaint is that the audio spikes sometimes, it got very loud at a few points

[@truthuntogodliness]

Yeah, there definitely were some issues in this video. I think I'll have those issues fixed in the next instalment

[@matthewbroderick6287]

It is by WORKS and NOT BY FAITH ALONE that we are JUSTIFIED! It is the DOERS OF THE LAW that are JUSTIFIED BEFORE God! Holy Scripture teaches we shall each be held accountable for every careless word we have uttered and shall each be judged as we have judged others and we shall be liable to judgment if angry with others and we shall each receive recompense for BOTH the good AND THE BAD we have done in the body, as we are must all strive for that holiness without which no one shall see the Lord! God makes us righteous, God does not declare us righteous! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink

[@gavinthompson1133]

Thank you!

[@Ben_G_Biegler]

Well done!

[@PastorBenMeyer]

Well done

[@danstoian7721]

As a person trying to grasp Lutheranism for years already, I've listened until 26:17 and I have 0 idea how all that differs with the Catholic understanding of faith. Maybe it doesn't and that's why the Joint Declaration on Justification was signed. But I feel more and more there's just a stylistic difference and begin to understand less and less why Luther called this doctrine "the hinge upon which all else turns" .
I mean if we are justified by faith alone, but "faith is never alone", then I really don't see, in the end, what's the real difference between Lutheranism and Roman-Catholicism, since at the end of they, they describe the Christian should be on the exact same spot.
Lutherans say faith, which alone justifies, must of necessity produce good works. But by Modus tollen, if P then Q, not Q therefore not P.
if Faith which alone justifies, then good works. Not good works, then no faith.
It's the same. It really hinges upon good works, again.

[@truthuntogodliness]

Thanks for your comment! I will go much further into the important differences between the Roman and Lutheran view of justification in our next video, will be up tomorrow evening actually!
In short the difference is this. What is the grounding, formal cause, or that by which you stand just before God?
The Roman Catholics answer that it is the infused justice inherent in you which is increased through piety and good works.
The Lutherans, and the New Testament as I will argue tomorrow, answer that it is the very righteousness of Christ himself, bestowed unto the believer through his union with Christ by faith and baptism. These are very different insofar as one is perfect, infinite and secure while the other is fragile, subject to growth or decay depending on your choices! Much more coming up tomorrow
God bless

[@truthuntogodliness]

If you still want to ask a question, for example between the relationship between faith and works, then please do that, and I might do a video on that in the near future :)

[@adolphCat]

I am a Former Roman Catholic and the priests and many of my lay Roman Catholic Teachers never taught me the official Roman Catholic Teachings on many subjects. Mabe you have had the same experience and mabe like me your Roman Catholic Faith and your practice of it has been influenced by Luther. I was a serious and fully Convinced Roman Catholic it took a degree in Theology for me to find out what I had believed was the official Roman Catholic Teaching was not the Oficial Roman Catholic Teaching. Many Lutherans and Orthodoxs wrongly believe that the Roman Catholic Church is monolithic in Faith and Practice and many times they criticize the Official Teachings of the Roman Catholic Church without realizing that millions of Roman Catholics don't know or Practice the Official Roman Catholic Teachings. Remember, Benedict the 16th had Herr Dr. Luther in high esteem. Many Orthodox, Confessional Lutheran and Anglicans are criticizing Roman Catholics without realizing their criticisms are in a time warp valid 300 years ago, but in our time no- longer a valid criticism as mabe only 10% of Roman Catholics hold to the things they are criticizing.

[@lpcruz5661]

There is a difference, faith in the Protestant view is not intellectual assent,/ agreement but trust from the heart that is why sola fide is not negated by Jas 2:24