Why There Are No Flights Between India and China
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TL;DW Because mountains and they hate each other.
@@chez8219 public toilets count as public areas.
They don't actually hate each other. It is a western perspective. Most people don't care.
@@101yayono it isn't a "western perspective". People in India can't stand China and hate it, rightfully so. Don't give an ignorant opinion on something you don't know much about. Not everything is muh west bad
@@101yayo Were all the border fights between India and China also a Western perspective?
@@chez8219 Nice racism you got there bub.
Framing Brilliant as a helpful tool for India & China to solve their crisis is craazy
Well... we'll never know if they don't give it a try!
Transitions to a Brilliant sponsor segment are always pretty far fetched, I even recall some like "If this historical figure only had today's sponsor Brilliant at their disposal, they could have solved their problems" 😂
As if 3rd and 4th strongest army in the world don't have experts sitting there
Gotta get that money
Unfortunately, the Brilliant tool can't be that good if it failed to spot historical inaccuracies in this video. For example, at approximately 4.00 minute into this video, the narrator described "...in 1914... Tibet then A DE FACTO INDEPENDENT COUNTRY..." and the Republic of China met with the then British-India, Crown Jewel of the British Empire.
This video is littered with historical inaccuracies and revisionism. Below is one example.
HISTORICAL FACTS:
In 1906 (eight years before 1914), Great Britain and China's Qing Dynasty signed "The Convention Between Great Britain and China Respecting Tibet". In this treaty (aka Treaty of Peking 1906), GB, at the time the largest and most powerful Empire the world has ever known, GB reaffirmed the continuation of Chinese possession of Tibet (that is, GB will not invade and occupy Tibet) - on the proviso that Beijing assures London that China will "not to permit any other foreign state to interfere with the territory or internal administration of Tibet".
The 1906 Treaty of Peking is just one example to illustrate Tibet was never "a de facto independent country ".
The "foreign state" referred to in this treaty was Russia. In this treaty, London and Beijing agreed to create Tibet as a buffer zone between Russia and British-India.
Some years before this 1906 treaty, the 13th Dalai Lama, Thubten Gyatso (1876-1933), under the influence of Agvan Dorzhiev (a Russian subject) became the first Dalai Lama to promote Tibet's independence from China. (Just because Spanish Catalan president Carles Puigdemont declared Catalan independence from Spain in 2017 does not make Barcelona Catalan an independent country.)
GB was so concerned with the emerging Russian threat coming from the north of British-India that the British sent a military force (Younghusband Expedition) to harass Lhasa in 1903-04. During the British military invasion, the 13th Dalai Lama, Thubten Gyatso, with the help of Agvan Dorzhiev, fled to Russia-controlled Mongolia.
After the fall of the Qing Dynasty in 1912 (China's last dynasty), the Republic of China continued to administer Tibet as a province (state) of modern China.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Between_Great_Britain_and_China_Respecting_Tibet
Guy taking 20 minutes to say "because they are geopolitical rivals with an active border conflict"
but but but muhhh BRICS......
bro's a yappinator
Same as that "half as interesting" channel, guy is making 5-8 min video, and 80% of video he is talking useless sentences, just to say 2 sentences that are related to the actual video..
Bruh
Slava TSMC 🇹🇼
Imagine the 2 most populated countries in the world, with both having over 1 billion people each, and not a single one can take a flight to the other country, and they're both neighbours 💀
and yeah i live in one of em
there's just no direct flights, mainly because of the himalayas. you can still take flights connecting from Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia.
Hi I am from India,
There's flight to Hong Kong
And there are flights to Delhi from China
The video is giving false information.
Thanks to ccp.
You can go one to the other, just not directly. And part of the reason is simply practical - the Himalayas are massive.
Read the title as 'Why there are no Fights between India and China' and was like, thank God.
Same
only a couple of friendly fist fights between their militaries
That's wrong. China and India actually went to war in the mid 1900s. Go search up the Sino-Indian War
There can be Flights or Fights, but not both
Apparently wrestling works in 20k feet elevation. But kung fu doesn't.
Why I'm gonna touch polymatter
Lol
Sir, I'm gonna have to ask you to please not encroach on sovereign Polymatter territory...
With or without consent?
HUH????
EY YO WHAT!
The prospect of war is so scary that we just decided to go medieval.
USA: Noob!
@@nsebast No one will nuke USA.. they're geographically isolated too...
Meanwhile in this case China will destroy its trade and factories and India will lose the war
Nukes are not out of the picture so I'll say yes it is more scary than any US war in the past
Is honouring treaties mediaeval ?
@Channel-y5y care to elaborate "your knowledge "
@Channel-y5y 🤦♂️and what did I say
Comment section: Chinese nationalism vs Indian Nationalism
Not really. This is mostly a western channel, so most of the comments seem to be from westerners. Yeah there's a few from the countries in question, but Polymatters' viewership likely isn't really high from either. I expect the largest contingent is American.
Tbh i really don't have any hate against Chinese, I saw vlog of indian guy going to China and they were so friendly and helpful.
I do have problem with CCP and they are the reason we spend 80billion on defence Evey year. That money can help lot people
wdym, the majority of chinese don't have access to UA-cam
@@raidenshougun9663 still they have presens, also Pakistani people fight for them.
@@Shubham_BahiratI bet the same can be said of India and Indians.
As Chinese, I had the chance to fly non stop from Beijing to Delhi in Feb. 2020, right before the pandemic breakout and the halt of China-India direct flights. The trip to India was the trip of my life, had some marvelous time in the amazing country. Too bad the geopolitical tension is preventing people from both sides to understand and appreciate the other's culture, history and modern progress.
Isn't it China's belligerence the bone of contention not only with India but all the ASEAN nations, also??
In fact, China covets the lands of all its neighbours including Russia.
f'k the geopolitics , we should be brothers
Too bad, we have so much to learn from you guys, and so much to share from our side.
Where in china are you from ?
@@eobardthawne6903 what you gonna learn? how to have a dictatorship? how to make your country's people miserable? how to make your country live in the novel 1984? how to have thought police? how to abuse and violate human rights? how to massacre ppl and make people forget it? how to illegally occupy other countries?
10:27 stock footage of Bangkok, Thailand for no reason
All the same
@@AmazingAmigo racist lol
13:20 this one is from Moscow Sheremetyevo Airport
these kind of videos are chaff, made with chatgpt. You think the editor would take time to even look at the letters to verify it looks at liest like chinese?
@@valencianball9129 but at least there's a Chinese carrier, so it's valid
17:51 Yeah 👍😅😅😅😅Xi Jin Peng and Narendra Modi should subscribe to Brilliant to lower tensions 😊😊😊😊 from Malaysia 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
But modi mostly lovely to hugging with gang up with White thought can control china on table what ever aspect is.....but at the end is zero
10:17
'"Promising to take their relationships to greater heights" the following year'
That we did - Galwan Valley definitely is at a greater height
bro 😭😭😭
Oh man was just looking to visit those countries from Canada alas there exists no flight in between them ,
Sincerely A frustrated Polar Bear
Why would anyone go to india?
@@andyistphdhpc2726 nice one
Polar bears 🐻❄ are in the north pole not south pole.
@@bigmike9128 nvm I am Candian polar bear
@@chiquita683 Why would anyone go to communist China?
We don't hate each other!
We can never trust each other which is much worse
China and India are both ancient civilisations. Some of the oldest.
Currently, they're geopolitical rivals, but that may change in time.
Never say never.
@@GonzoTehGreat I agree, I and most Indians have a lot of respect for Chinese history and civilization. But we can never China under the Chinese Communist Party
@@srikanthshastry4546 I assume you mean that relations can't be friendly while China is ruled by the CCP, as evidenced by 2 wars and intermittent border disputes. Nevertheless, never is a long time! The CCP didn't even exist 100 years ago. Who knows what China (or India) will be like 100 years from now.
中国和印度应该合作，才能共同繁荣
Id almost say that equates to hate. Anyone?
Both India and china have such a rich culture and history. Too bad geopolitics prevents either of their citizens to experience the other nations lifestyle
Yeah, shouldn’t have invaded India when your relationship was at its best.
@@MarkMuhammad190 how do you know the cat is chinese?
@@braunarsch they don't, cats don't survive in China.
@@MarkMuhammad190 Why do you muslims always support China over India, when China is the best place for muslims and India has zero muslims left after Partition.
@@realqualia7175 India and China have been civilizational states long before they were nation states. Indian and Chinese civilizations are the oldest in the world.
The differences between China and India are why I dont really take BRICS seriously as an entity. All those countries can do some economically impressive things individually, but theres not much cohesion and in the case of India and China, active conflicts.
brics aren't alliance, they don't need to agree on everything. If anything it's even more important for 2 countries of so many difference to actually have dialog one another
Agreed. BRICS might be a good idea one day. But not anytime soon.
BRICS was initiated by Morgan and other Western investment firms. Any political cooperation is irrelevant to its original purpose, which is to have emerging markets talk to one another and hopefully agree to market liberalization measures for these investment firms' benefits.
BRICS is more like a forum where they try to counterbalance the dominance of the West in the global economic order. The object is a more multipolar world where they can make their voices heard. To that end they have set up alternate financial institutions as well. So despite the bilateral conflicts the BRICS agenda is something that these countries actually agree on. It's not going to overthrow the G7 anytime soon but that's because the member-states' economies aren't there yet, not because they lack common ground. But the point was always to mount a challenge, not to immediately succeed.
Turkey and Greece are both part of NATO...
How to stretch out 30 seconds of content into an eternity - this video
Yeah it's called context
Yup, stopped watching after him repeating humself for 3 minutes straight
😂😂😂
Facts 😂
@@vallgron UA-camrs intentionally do that because they get paid by video duration. Longer duration means ads in between. You can search up a simple "how-to" video that should be like 10 seconds of instructions but the UA-camr goes on a rant causing the video to drag into 10 minutes
15:05 Beijing build the new Daxing airport wich half the overall passager flew into Beijing capital airport
3:47 incorrect map of India used
No one would really care anyway, after you pointed out then I'd just notice it.
@@mubassirzaman7202Pakistan is an integral part of India
@@Usersskk India is an integral part of the trash can 🇮🇳
What will you do? Complain to Modi?
@@shatzco well does not concerns you, I'm pointing it out for the creator
West Taiwan should leave India alone !
Taiwan is Taiwan, China is China. You're hurting the cause by using this silly meme
@@sakakaka4064 Fr, by saying Taiwan is the "real" China they are just saying the same thing as the PRC...
Kashmir is NOT India. Khalistan is NOT India. Nagaland is NOT India
@@FoquroC31 except Taiwan is the only one to preserve Chinese culture instead of destroying it. They have more claim than the mainland
@@AeneasGemini by that logic does England have a claim to Normandy for preserving Norman culture in the Channel Islands while France destroyed it?
>no direct flights between India and China
>layover in Hong Kong
idk about taiwan but HK is literally China since 1997
A technicality. When Chinese citizens currently need to apply for a permit for the right to visit Hong Kong, it's hard to think of it as just another part of China.
Passport and Visa are not required for travel between China and Taiwan.
350,000 mainland Chinese are married to Taiwanese.🦉
@@shermanpeabody6102 A permit issued by the Chinese government is required for PRC nationals to travel toTaiwan, just like Hong Kong and Macao
He did specify Mainland China, which we are not a part of.
Sorry, no direct flights between Taipei and New Delhi. Even China Airlines and EVA both want to stop at BKK. But, practically, looking at a map on the wall here, I can see why. 😊
As an Indian, I am impressed by the Indian government's stance. Every country has the right to maintain relationships on equal terms. If China wants a relationship on its terms, then India has every right to deny it and take steps to counter such narrative-based politics from China.
My wish is China and India will never talk to each other, they don't need each other, there is nothing in common between them, they should pretend the other party does NOT exist, life will be better that way.
Yeah, autcratic dictatorship vs autcratic dictatorship is exactly what we needed ...
@@Gurumeierhans 🧠 Here, take this. It seems you lost yours, so I found one that suits you best-it's a donkey's.
@@Gurumeierhans 🧠 Here, take this. It seems you lost yours, so I found one that suits you best-it's a donkey's.
@Gurumeierhans Considering our former pathetic system gave as nothing this is way better.
On paper, an Indo-Chinese economic rapprochement would create great wealth. But the two cultures and systems of government are too different to make this a reality.
Actually cultural our culture with Indians is very similar we respect our parents, we live together with our parents even one of our stories character Wu kong is inspired from hanuman of Ramayan. Buddhism came to china through india only
They are founding members of BRICS and do 100+ billions in trade yearly. They have economic rapprochement enough to have gotten rid of dollar for trade and are using their own currency to trade. They might have border disputes but economically that difference you speak makes no difference, they are adult enough to separate business from those squabbles. Both Chinese and Indian foreign ministers are among the very best on the planet (the Europeans ones are children), I trust them more to work out there differences than I would the laughable Canadian one or war mongering American ones. Again, those two are adults.
@@Cryspiorespecting parents and all applies to all the Asian countries, not just india and china
Cultures are very similar. The governments just can't seem to ever find any spot of agreement.
@@samuelcheung4799 yeh perople are similar but Chinese government is aggressor and attacks every body in the neighbourhood so the political and government thing only applies to one side not to india
1:38 bhutan do have trafic lights i have bean on that country
The highest mountain range between two regions that were segregated for 5,000 years or more to develop distinctive languages, culture, tradition, and race.
China is not neighbour of India but it's Tibet.....occupied forcefully by China....
But the Tibetan language is not much related to Chinese. It looks more of IndoEuropean family
Pok is part of India
You can't delete that from map
According to you. POK is an internationally recognised as a disputed territory even by The AN.
@@Oceansta we don't care about AN or UN and what they are saying about our land. It is a part of India and will be part of India
@@orugalluvishnuvardhanreddy7027 you can keep saying that but reality won't change that its a disputed territory. And yes, you do care about UN because you are UN member.
@@Oceansta sush
@@adarshtiwari4026 delulu 😅
Bros just asking for 50% of the comments to be from Indians saying a single map was wrong and wishing the worst for you (to put it lightly).
Rightfully so
why did this have to be 20 min
💰
Because if you wanted a quick answer instead of a through explanation you could have just googled it instead
This channel likes to waste time by yapping.
Because the YT algorithm prefers content of similar length from content creators.
To make sure that propaganda message gets into the heads of his brainwashed viewers.
"The flights do not go to China, they go to Hong Kong." uuuh... who is gonna tell him?
He said maybe you didn't get it
+100 social credit points
They don't know what Hong Kong is or what it's supposed to do.
Chinese bots finally found poly matter, they are here spamming the comments lol.
I can't even blame them, they're always outmatched by Indians 😂
says the chinese bot
no there arent, it seems like youre the bot
@@columc I’m a proud citizen of the worlds largest democracy, tell me is democracy better or an autocracy?
@@Allinonetvz autocracy is better because democracy is 'the rule of the stupid' as most of people are stupid. Also China doesnt like indian people for many reasons including racism
Excuse me?.
Arunachal pradesh aint claimed by China. Im Arunachali. We r indian
its a propaganda video. report it.
yes, it is in fact claimed and disputed territory
they don't care if you stay or go
China prefers to keep it that way. Thank you.
Yeah mention india , show an crowed and poor street from an vedio from 90s ... RACISTS
As a Nepalese citizen, I just want these two superpowers to be peace and harmony. Nepal is becoming a playground of geopolitics with China, India, and the U.S. imposing their vested interest in Nepal.
Actually it's really sad that poor Nepal is stuck between to these rival giants!
There are only TWO SuperPower in the world, and Endia ain't one of them.
@@sealtraderchink
@@sealtradermanchuria will be freed by your End ia.
@@T.K.P. What? Speak or TYPE human languages please.
I stay in Thane, a suburb of Mumbai. Before pandemic, lots of Chinese tourists used to come here. I met a few of them. Now however, not a single Chinese Tourists are seen here. And now I know why 🤔🤔 !
6:04 Whether it is fertile, not one inch of Indian land shall be surrendered. Would you cede a property which you own, just because it's dilapidated?
😂😂😂 defend that line we drew punk 😂😂😂
@@arcanecrisis Mate, you ought to care more about the boats landing on your coast, than about India's border. 😆😆😆
South Tibet and the six North East states are not Indian territory, but imperial British annexations. The people there are East Asiatic, Oriental, and not Desi/Dravidian/Aryan. Racially and ethnically Sino Tibetan. India knows its hold on the region is artificial and the amount of AFSA suppression would amount to genocide, but intentionally and conveniently ignored by their former Anglo masters.
@@pikachus5m166
1. COPE!!!
2. Try that propaganda with Taiwan, not us. Multi-millena old Hindu scriptures held Mt. Kailash (currently under CCP administration), as holy. So, tell that Sino-Tibetan nonsense to someone else, you goddamn racist.
3. Ancient Hindu mandirs are found across the length and breath of Far-Eastern India. Those regions have been integral parts of India, and will remain so regardless of whether you accept it or not.
4. Instead of playing the typical Maoist "Holier than thou" game of alleging "genocide", why not focus on the Uygher genocide in Xinjyang, or should I say East Turkmenistan, instead?
@@pikachus5m166 COPE! Keep seething, you CCP propagandist.
3:10 does it actually say "Convid" in official government paper lol
I support India's claim in galwan valley🇮🇳🇮🇳 ❤ from Philippines 🇵🇭
🙉
I was born in China. I also support India's claim and the Philippines's claim on the East Philippines Sea. I've been to Palawan. I love Philippines.
@@donimic9276
Indian trying to pretend to be a Chinese LOL
🤣🤣🤣
@@陳大勇-r7q Get out
Don't know why western peoples always show wrong map of india 🙄
Because it’s most real and authentic map vmro, and i am Indians
With the Hindu nationalist party in such firm control of the country, why do they even want parts of the country that are NOT Hindu? India should just release Kashmir and Punjab, and let them form their own country. And look at the seven sisters. There are 46 million people living there, of which only 24 million are Hindu. And nearly all of them are in Assam. In the remaining 6 states, Hindus are just 30% of the population. Why do they get to rule over the other 70%?
@@danielch6662another westerner trying to divide India. We don't want your opinion! We were already partitioned in 1947. Leave us alone!
@@danielch6662 stop useless comments. If India should allow Kashmir, northeast as independent countries, then so should China allow Tibet,Xinjiang lol..and
if you think it happens only in india, go check US, most advanced country, they do black white, Isn’t Trump a white Christian nationalist? Doesn’t Europe have conservative as well as communist parties and people..Noob🥸
@mr.commenter7953 Nah, if you want to have a more Hindu country, please don't force people.
Can you talk faster than 1 word per working day??
Play 2x if you are so bothered 😂
Good referrence 1 word per working day 😂😂😂😂
Good reference 1 word per working day 😂😂😂😂
Lhasa is a chinese city as much as Kyiv is a russian city.
as much as Tehas, Los àngeles, California Oklahoma Hawaii etc are white American territory
Kiev is a Russian city. It was were the Kivean Rus first settled down, that later became Russia
Poor guy @@dan-bz7dz
Except the part where Lhasa is in China and Kiev remain outside Russia
Except that Russia doesn't control Kyiv while China controls Lhasa. 🤷♂️
I'm with India on this.
we arunachali are indians not tibetian we follow bhuddism but we are proud india not chinese and we will fight till our last blood to protect our country glory to ahom kingdom
fake ,its a bot
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2:39 You lost me when you said it's impossible to drive directly to Tibet, lol. How does Nepal trade with China then? There has been a road link to Lhasa, in fact all the way to Shanghai from Nepal since 1967. Best of luck with rest of nonsense.
The natula pass connects Sikkim to tibel
@@aishikpanja3931 But I doubt hundreds of vehicles pass everyday like Nepal-Tibet border.
US: "Thank you, Himalayas, for not allowing two super powers to collaborate!"
UK: "You are very welcome, good sir"
Imagine if British India didn't bother to make any agreement with Tibet and Qing Dynasty (and Nationalist China), we wouldn't have just a border conflict but full blown war between them.
I mean, they can't even resolve what should be a minor dispute in Galwan Valley, imagine if there's no agreement at all, and both consider the region as free real estate.
We are a developing country and India is the superpower. We have no interest in cooperating with this superpower. If you are interested, go and do it yourself.
Man shut up we are not superpower after the collapse of Ussr the world became unipolar and that polar is U.S.A@@mr.MazhenL
@@mr.MazhenL Ok, I will go tomorrow. 😂
There are only TWO Superpower in the world and ENDIA ain't one of them. Supperppooer maybe if you talking about ENDIA.
I never understand, how the want to work together in BRICS, if they dont solve their problems
They do it for the United States, they know that if the United States becomes a formal empire, there will be no one who can stop that threat alone
No wonder BRICS is a joke.
Hence why BRICS isn’t for real.
@@fischmukke because the US
They can exist because of a common enemy
If Tibet was part of Qing Empire so it belongs to China.
By that logic the entire South Asia & SE Asia belong to India.
Belongs to british
@@cnmike1988 Belongs to the snakes
even india ruled tibet at one time in history
I think that Mongolia would like to put in a few words if that is the direction the discussion is going.
Basing the claim on the British is pretty weak
Listen to Notorious BIG - Whats Beef to understand why there's no flights. Both countries stand on bidness
lmao
I don't get it tho
@@Othawize721 then stop listening to video game OSTs
There is the usual nonsense propagated by this video. One is the Tibetan government recognize the McMahon line, which is nonsense. The McMahon line is a diplomatic forgery cooked up by Henry McMahon and added decades later to the agreement. The agreement itself was immediately repudiated by the Tibetan Lhasa government once the Tibetan official who signed the agreement went back to Lhasa. Anyway, here is the timeline of the dispute between the two countries.
1912: In the first full year of the Republic of China after the fall of the Qing dynasty, the United States National Geographic Magazine dedicated an issue to China. Accompanying the issue is a large and detailed fold-out map of China. The map clearly shows that Dirang Dzong (德讓宗) and Tawang (達旺) are within the boundary of China.
1943: British India likely calculated that dealing with the Lhasa government was easier than with the Republic of China's Nationalist Government in extracting land concessions and proposed to the United States to recognize Tibet's right to exchange diplomatic representatives with other powers. The Americans rejected this proposal:
"The Government of the United States has borne in mind the fact that the Chinese Government has long claimed suzerainty over Tibet and that the Chinese constitution lists Tibet among areas constituting the territory of the Republic of China. This Government has at no time raised a question regarding either of those claims."
1944: British India annexed Dirang Dzong (德讓宗), a Tibetan-settled area. Dzong means fort in Tibetan. The Chinese Government (the Nationalist Government of the Republic of China, seated in Kunming at the time because of World War II) protested to the British. So did the Tibetan Lhasa government.
1945: British India intruded into the tribal area of South Tibet.
February 1947: The Chinese Nationalist Government lodged a complaint with the Indian mission, which was by then newly established in China, on British India's border intrusions into Chinese territory.
August 1947: Britain left South Asia, and India was created as the successor polity to the departed British. India's creation means that a country that historically did not exist suddenly appears on China's doorstep.
October 1947: The Tibetan Lhasa Government dispatched a formal request to New Delhi, asking the newly independent Indian Government to withdraw all its predecessors' intrusions into the territory between the McMahon Line and the traditional border beneath the foothills and return a wide swath of territory from Ladakh to Assam, including Sikkim and the Darjeeling district.
1949: When the defeat of the Nationalist Government in China's civil war was imminent, the Republic of China's ambassador in New Delhi reminded the Indian Government that China did not recognize the McMahon Line and held the Simla Convention invalid.
October 1949: The CCP (Chinese Communist Party) took control of the mainland, and its civil war rival, the Republic of China, retreated to Taiwan.
December 1949: India recognized the People's Republic of China as the legitimate government, effectively cutting off the diplomatic channel the Republic of China used to deliver its protests to India.
February 1951: India annexed Tawang (達旺), the birthplace of the Sixth Dalai Lama and home to the four-hundred-year-old Tawang Monastery. The Tibetan authorities in Lhasa protested but were simply informed by the Indian political officer that India was taking over Tawang. The Tibetans protested again, accusing the Indian Government of 'seizing as its own what did not belong to it.' The Tibetans went on to ask New Delhi to withdraw its forces from Tawang immediately. The protests were ignored. The Republic of China (which had already retreated to Taiwan by then and had no diplomatic relation with India) also vehemently denounced India's territorial travesty. The CCP (Chinese Communist Party) made no noise.
October 1951: The PLA (Peoples’ Liberation Army) seized Lhasa, capturing the last remaining part of mainland China (except South Tibet) that was up to that point beyond the Communist control.
1954: India published a new map showing South Tibet as part of India. The map also shows the two neighbors of China, Sikkim, and Bhutan, as part of India. Sikkim has been a tributary state of Tibet for hundreds of years. In the 18th century, Sikkim was briefly overrun by the Nepalese Gorkhas, causing the Sikkim king to flee to Tibet. The Gorkhas continued their push to the north to Shigatse (日喀則市) and sacked the Tashilhunpo Monastery (扎什倫布寺). The Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama requested help from the Qing court, and the Qianlong emperor dispatched two separate expeditions, expelled the Gorkhas, and restored Sikkim's sovereignty and independence. The Gorkhas were pacified and became a tributary state of the Qing dynasty. Sikkim remained unmolested for the rest of its history until it was annexed by India in 1975.
January 1959: The CCP (Chinese Communist Party) commented for the first time on the issue of South Tibet when Zhou Enlai, in a letter to Nehru, offered to concede South Tibet to India. However, India rejected the offer, as it also claimed Aksai Chin as part of its territory.
1960: India started establishing posts (border markers) north of South Tibet (north of the McMahon Line) and proclaiming that it has the right to unilaterally 'improve' the McMahon Line as it sees fit.
October 1962: After years of warning, China attacked India's position in South Tibet and recovered Tawang shortly. Three weeks later, in a second wave, China recovered the whole of South Tibet.
November 1962: China unilaterally withdrew back to the north of the McMahon line.
1975: India annexed Sikkim.
1987: India made South Tibet a state and renamed it the so-called Arunachal Pradesh. The Republic of China (Taiwan) put out a statement denouncing India. Here is the statement:
"In regard to the issue of the Indian government's illegal occupation of our country's territory and the establishment of the so-called 'Arunachal Pradesh,' the foreign ministry of the Republic of China issued the following announcement at midnight: India's illegal occupation of our country's territory has been repeatedly stated by the Government of the Republic of China as something it will not recognize. Recently, the Indian Congress unilaterally passed the establishment of 'Arunachal Pradesh' to the south of the so-called McMahon Line. The Indian Government also made it a state. The Government of the Republic of China once again solemnly proclaims that the Government of India intends to legitimize its illegal occupation of Chinese territory. The Government of the Republic of China regards this as illegal, void, and absolutely not recognized."
2008: A little over a decade after Britain returned Hong Kong to China, Britain had exited its last colonial enterprise in Asia. Tibet no longer had the utility of a bargaining chip vis-à-vis the Hong Kong issue, allowing the British to afford honesty for once. The British government issued a statement recognizing China's sovereignty over Tibet (previously recognized as suzerainty, not sovereignty). The statement, supported by both the Conservative and Labour parties, is remarkable for its honesty in admitting that Britain once had territorial ambitions in Tibet and adopted an almost apologetic tone. Here is an excerpt:
"...But our position is unusual for one reason of history that has been imported into the present: the anachronism of our formal position on whether Tibet is part of China, and whether in fact we harbour continued designs to see the break-up of China. We do not.
Our ability to get our points across has sometimes been clouded by the position the UK took at the start of the 20th century on the status of Tibet, a position based on the geopolitics of the time. Our recognition of China’s “special position” in Tibet developed from the outdated concept of suzerainty. Some have used this to cast doubt on the aims we are pursuing and to claim that we are denying Chinese sovereignty over a large part of its own territory. We have made clear to the Chinese Government, and publicly, that we do not support Tibetan independence. Like every other EU member state, and the United States, we regard Tibet as part of the People’s Republic of China. "
2014: A Tibetan Chinese named Nido Tania from Arunachal Pradesh (occupied South Tibet) went to old Delhi and was beaten to death because he 'looked Chinese.'
2024: The festering border dispute between India and China persists. China's earlier offer to cede South Tibet is no longer available, as China has explicitly stated that South Tibet is part of its territory. This stance mirrors the positions of both the Tibetan Lhasa Government and its civil war rival, the Republic of China (Taiwan).
chinese are still ruled by a communist dictator while even africans are advancing politically with democratic societies.. look at south africa, kenya etc., where elections to choose leaders are becoming regular.. chinese are decades behind africa politically even tho African & Chinese intelligence is similar.. & when chinese eventually transition away from communist dictatorships, there could be chaos & china might break apart like the former soviet union.
Stop the whine the pooh propaganda 😂.
I stop reading after the 2 sentence because the sh!t coming out smell so bad.
Huh India is trying to retaliate by banning Chinese travellers? If Chinese tourists want to spend money in India, Indian government want to stop that? Most countries go out of their way to attract tourists. Odd way to retaliate if you ask me
Indian government have very high IQ. They have also banned a lot of cheap chinese only products. So now they buy it rebranded chinese products at high price from middle men
Who stopped Chinese traveller 😂. There is no direct flight that's it. Indian can go to china as well as Chinese can visit India.
Here is a thing, Indian culture is popular ..be it it's festivals, it's food.
There is a reason even the POTUS lights an oil lamp on Diwali
@@bhatiabn They do it because Indian voters hold sway on Presidential elections, it has nothing to do with culture.
Many of them are caught spying in Eastern India.
See we don't have marked lines, but we had imaginary boundaries where indian soildiers used to stop at certain points and go back same thing Chinese were doing.
But in that case Chinese people didn't stopped then came where indian side used to petrol.
This is good, hopefully the flights never resume.
✨ Wow, PolyMatter, you've done it again! 💖 I just watched your video on the India-China flight situation, and I'm honestly blown away! 🤯✈
When you mentioned that fateful China Eastern flight on March 20th, 2020, I felt a lump in my throat. 😢 It's surreal to think that was the last direct flight between our countries. Nearly 4.5 years without a single plane crossing that vast expanse between the two most populous countries on Earth! 🌏👥
Your explanation of the border disputes brought back memories of heated debates with my grandfather, who served in the 1962 war. 🇮🇳 The way you broke down the complexities of the LAC - I finally understand why he always said it was "a ticking time bomb." ⏳💣 (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
I'll admit, I teared up a bit during the Galwan Valley part. 😔 To think of those soldiers, armed with nothing but rocks and sticks... it's just devastating. Your respectful handling of such a sensitive topic is truly commendable. 🙌💔 (╥_╥)
The "China has the hardware, India the software" analogy made me chuckle - it's so spot on! 😄💻 I work in IT in Bangalore, and let me tell you, the potential of our two nations working together is something we discuss often over chai breaks. ☕🤝 (≧▽≦)
I was particularly struck by the shift in airport rankings. 🏆✈ Seeing Indira Gandhi International climb to 10th place filled me with a sense of pride I didn't expect. 🇮🇳✨ It's a small thing, but it made me feel hopeful about our country's future. 🌅 (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
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Warm regards from a grateful fan in Bangalore! 🇮🇳🌟
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Bro trying to reach 3 billion people with one video.
11:03 No, India doesn't have the software. Hardware and Software both belong to China. China has international big tech like ByteDance (TikTok), Tencent (WeChat), Oppo, Vivo, Huawei, Byd, Alibaba etc. India only has IT outsourcing. The Indian startups are not at the same level as their Chinese counterparts.
Software mostly belongs to the US .
Like this platform
lol china only manufactures cheap low tech crap & now cant even sell that garbage to the west anymore so they going back to being poor again 😆
Our youth wants government jobs bro 💀
11:06
There's a lot more cities besides Bangalore which have a significant IT company presence.
11:04 I don't think India has software, man.
India is an Older Civilization where Chinese, Greeks, Persians and South East Asian students used to come to study in Universities such as Takshashila and Nalanda. Both these Universities were established 2500 and 1500 years back respectively. These two were the oldest universities in the ancient world. The Chinese have gone on record to say "India has culturally colonised China for 2k years"
you need to study real chinese history & not ccp lies.. most of ancient chinese culture came from india.. like buddhism, martial arts, tai chi & even sun tzu learned from kautilyas arthasastra etc..
@@joeblodontchno5309 irrelevant to my comment
He would mean IT outsourcing I guess. Software is mostly US.
@@Grayson_WuI think you are not wrong about this one
@@joeblodontchno5309 Thank you for telling this amazing joke dude, now find a toilet if you can
Please correct your map as the top left corner you have shown as Pakistan but it is POK.
lets be real.....the fact that indias trade with china is 120 billion shows how irrelevant india is.....china's trade with taiwan a country of 26 million is an astounding 130 billion
china's trade with australia a population of 28 million is an astounding 230 billion a year
china's trade with russia is nearly 220 billion almost 1/7th russia's gdp......
india with a population of 1.4 billion 50 times larger than taiwan trades less than taiwan?
india has all the time in the world?she can wait all she wants....
if u believe china cannot make any progress in disputes, lemme tell u these none these countries will act in any manner that US doesnt tell them too, thats why disputes between china and any country that are vassals of usa will never be resolved just like ukraine did not negotiate a peace treaty with russia and putin back in march of 2022 and ended the conflict early......ukraine will never negotiate with russia because USA and UK will not let her or zelensky make a deal with russia,.....and ukraine will continue to suffer tragic losses......they dont talk about russian casualties in ukraine war now because its completely in russia's favour since the end of bakhmut and the counter offensive last year
if u believe china cannot resolve disputes in a diplomatic manner and make actual progress in the world.....lemme remind u at the beginning of 1960s, china and russia has over 5000 land and border disputes......and over the last 20,30 years or so they have negotiated over 90 percent of them.
india and philippines and taiwan and japan will not do anything without US permission or consent.....if USA didnt exist, trust me japan and south korea and taiwan would join brics and make peace with china faster than u can say brilliant dot org.
2:45 soooo there are direct flights between India and China.... Or is Hong Kong not part of China anymore?
HK has its own immigration process and mainland citizens need a permit from the Chinese government to travel to HK, so not exactly the same thing
Hong Kong isn’t China? I’m sure there’s direct flights between HK and Indian cities.
Ironic how dudes think China is desperate for any growth but India can just relax. Other countries don't worry about declining growth rates because their production is already low with undersupply.
China and India accessed both mutually by other airlines especially south east asian companies. And western parts by cetral asian and middle east airlines. Direct flights between two countries are not a big deal according to me. I was never taken such direct flights as it was expensive and also it took off from north india while i am ast south. And it was really expensive too.
原来是这样的么，我第一次知道。不过中国人除了做生意以外应该真的真的真的没有人愿意去印度旅游，所以维持现状挺好的
I’m glad the feeling is reciprocal, we Indians don’t want anything to do with China either 🙏
@@SS-eu2ef But CHina lives rent free in every indian's bobble head. Wion and first post NON stop talking about china. Meanwhile in China no one really give a fuk about india at all. No one speaks about them or think about them.
@@SS-eu2ef and there's a surge of dirty indian vloggers going to CHina, and seeing just how backward india really is in comparison to China. Don't pretend like you don't know curry breath, you've watched them already.
@@seawater1322yeah what's up with all the poo going to China? Why don't the Chinese stop issuing them visas? They should at least use reciprocity as an excuse
@@SS-eu2ef 🤝达成共识。反正我们的公司进入印度市场都会被你们敲诈，不如直接放弃
1:26 No more Brunei as well, starting late October this year (Chinese here). Right now there are flights operated by Royal Brunei Airlines at Beijing.
In diplomacy it's said their are no permanent friends or enemies... One day will come when it will be the same for India and china as well... It's all about money and nothing makes more money than prosperity and peace...
first of all bharat map shown in video is incorrect, secondly your data on china and bharat border dispute is incorrect. kindly rectify and re upload the video
Hong Kong is China, and yes theres a flight between the two country. Im sorry, but for me this video is absurd.
Should mentioned visa grant by India,most of businessman in my area literally received none of visa from India. And I believed that is the key reason since they are eliminating FDI from China.
Another example showing how different Hong Kong is from China.
Not as different anymore
Not anymore.
Sadly, china's promise of 50 years of autonomy turned out to be a lie. Didn't even last half as long.
Sadly, not gonna be long before it converts into mainland China’s landscape.
How can Hong Kong be different from China when IT is China.
I’m Indian and I admire the Chinese penchant for hard work and perseverance. The politics and geopolitics of this whole India - China relationship is really unfortunate. I had the most wondering time when I was in China in 2019 walking along the streets of Beijing. I wish the British never colonised our lands and put us Indians in this quandary. I dream of us India and China becoming friends, we have so much more in common with the Chinese than we do with the Americans who have only been manipulating us for decades now.
So, in other words, you're saying the 1962 war, the Galwan clash, etc. were not started by China? Grow up, dude. They have a superiority complex-at least we can say this about their leadership. They border 14 countries, and they have conflicts and border disputes with almost all of them. The few disputes they've solved were on their terms, not the other party's. Does that seem normal to you? They started all of this, and you expect India to play by the rules?
@@ModeSix-ty3dk Yeah right , sit and brood over the same old old. You need to grow up and live the real world. We don’t live in a Hindi movie with poetic justice and all. India’s attitude towards China is the same as Pakistan’s attitude towards India. Pakis are hurting their economy by blocking Indian commerce. India is doing the same with Chinese - chopping their noses to spite their faces. The US will push us to war with China, and believe you me, when push comes to shove, there’s going to be no QUAD or USA to back us up besides some lip service. We’ll be left high and dry. We can’t change our neighbours, so at least try to work things out.
If anyone from India wants to go ro China, then he has to take flight to Kazakhstan first, then Beijing. Similar for chinese.
OH look a video about geopolitical conflict between the two most populated countries on earth, surely the comment section will be full of thoughtful and interesting comments....
It should be noted that neither the Republic of China nor the People’s Republic of China (current CCP) recognize Tibet. In fact, it was part of the Qing empire, so once the Qing collapsed, it was assumed that Tibet was maintained as Chinese territory.
By that logic the entire South Asia & SE Asia belongs to India
@@Kalinga_3no it doesn’t. India never had sovereign control of SE Asia. Did both the British Raj and modern India control SE Asia at any point? Learn history.
@@Kalinga_3No, by that logic, India should revert back to 600 separate Maharajah states, none of this Bharat nonsense.
The Chola dynasty ruled over large parts of SE Asia. Learn some history yourself first before you can bs your way through and just because one dynasty of yours controlled a land doesn't mean that it isn't colonialism when it literally invades that land and oppreses the people there@@dr.woozie7500
@@pikachus5m166lol so you read history only 200-300 years, what was mauryan empire , gupta , delhi sultan, moguls, etc controlling most india, mauryan empire was till half Afghanistan. If all countries starts claiming their king’s territory like iran , turking claiming ottomon empire, mongols claiming half asia😂world war 3 will start.
Map of India is wrong... Kashmir is a part of India as it has always been since so many centuries... An arbitrary line drawn by a British Army man is bullshit!!
Chinese bots, here we come, here we come.
no bots, only you
Bjp bots fighting back lol
The smug bot prediction comments seem to be out in far more force than the bots they're so sagely predicting.
full of shit everwhere
Correction: Lhasa is not Chinese city, it’s Free Tibetan city
You’re a very imaginative person
Brits seeded the problem But India greed wanted all That Brits left over. India tried invading once and China took it right to India's capital. India is getting worse in social and infrastructure aspects, the education is problematic So is the free medical care system. Look at an old documentary of India in the 1959 That streets were clean and with So Many Cars But look at it now is a different story.
Its actually opposite. Earlier there was censorship and only government news agencies. They will never allow you to shoot bad part unlike today
Brits leftover. Those people which china claim as their territory never consider themselves as Chinese. They consider themselves as Indian.
India changed visa requirements for Chinese nationals from 4-5 months to less than 1 month. This happened few days ago.
So little content in this video. Don’t waste your life on this.
All of this will be resolved in 2062, 100 years since the friendship broke.
But Yet they are both part of the the GREAT BRICS Alliance.
I m not communist chinese. But why travel to India??
Another fun fact: There are no flights between India and Pakistan either (since the last Delhi-Lahore flight by PIA).
Can you discuss the territories China lost to Russia? You would be amazed how big it is and the dispute area between China and India is a child play thing!!! And China keeps quiet about it. Why?
China is reasonable. This border dispute will be settled eventually
Lhasa is in Tibet, not China.
Srinagar is in Kashmir, not India
Gangtok is in Sikkim, not India
stay strong India. don't give in to the disgusting communists!
1962 China took Akshai Chin....get ur facts right
Tibet is taken by China , North East Indian states are given to India by British, and Sikkim is taken by India. All of these lands are neither Chinese or Indian. They are just taken or given.
haha,dark head
Not all NE states. Assam, Meghalaya, Manipur and Tripura were with India.
@@arya8411 we didnt with dark streetpooer
@@huanwang-ur5ve your only resort is racism?, ure literally racially abusing brown people in every comment, what is wrong w you?
Winnie the Xi, the master at turning friends into enemies & goodwill into animosity.
Hey Fellow creator, great efforts to produce this video but I request do not put this map(3:42) representing India on the Global Map like this. Please Correct it, the disputed land not shown here are still and will always be an Integral part of India.
bhai rehne do aap
This is good, hopefully the flights never resume.
I am gald this tension between China and India, because my company can't get me an India working visa means I don't have to come to india, all our company india projects are on halt or cancelled.
thank you from an Indian for not coming here.
Another odd situation - I live in Vancouver, which was one of Chinese airlines' most connected North American destinations before COVID. But since 2020, we haven't seen a mainland Chinese airline land in Vancouver. We have Canadian airlines going from Vancouver to mainland China, but not the other way around. And to this day, I don't really know why. (Airlines from Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Korea are the only non-Canadian airline options to mainland China from Vancouver.)
There is literally only 1 direct flight route going between BC and China now and that's the AC25/AC26 route between Vancouver and Shanghai. I say this as a resident of Richmond who visited China a few months ago and was amazed by the lack of options.
(not including Hong Kong for ... reasons)
@@RustyIShacklefurd Maybe they decided direct to Toronto was more economical
@@RustyIShacklefurd yup I live in Richmond and have a brother living in Shanghai. He had a hell of a time coming home for vacation. Usually before Covid, it was a super easy flight. Luckily our relatives are in Hong Kong but it’s weird how it was easier to meet up with him there instead of him coming home.
CA998, MF806, and HU7960 currently operate flights to Vancouver once a week each. Chinese carriers are eager to increase the frequency of flights between China and Canada, as the ticket prices for direct flights are significantly high. However, Canadian regulations currently approve only a total of six flights per week.
China is lucky. Ask the Canadians what have those direct flights from India turned Canada into.
Easy solution for you instead of blaming India and Indians start electing leaders who can stop immigration you dump people elect people like justinder and then blame India for your situation
You mean North Taiwan?
Taiwan calls themselves (The Republic of) China too, you are hurting Taiwanese independence by referring them by the name of the island they are on, instead of the land they claim to own.
@@starleighpersonal They don't call themselves ROC...it is the North Taiwan that forces others to call them ROC...Olympics are one of the examples.
@@LatestMerchok, thats just wrong. Taiwan is just the name of the island
Are you American? Cuz your geography skills really suck. China is to the west of Taiwan...
Also, what makes you think Taiwan is the "real" China?
The map of india is wrong. Such propaganda is the issue that promotes wrong map of india.
3.41 dislike done btw great content but dislike is for the wrong depiction of Indian map please correct it .
A video about fights for borders and you say the borders are wrong. Bro, that is the point of the video haha
Lhasa is not a Chinese city. It’s the capital of Tibet, forcibly occupied by CCP.
Sikkim was not Indian territory, it was annexed by India in 1975. The so-called northeastern states of India, including Nagaland, Mizoram, Manipur, and Meghalaya, were also forcibly annexed into India from Myanmar.
@@hongqi5734don’t forget Kashmir. Fewer Kashmiris want to be in India than there are Tibetans want to be in China. They want to be independent or part of Pakistan
@user-qwertyuiopasdfghj Same can be said about Balochistan
Lmao! Not even Pakistani wants to be a part of Pakistan nomore,mate. Balochistan is killing your army. Azad Kashmir is revolting everyday. Your news channels reported that. Now, Taliban also started having your forces left and right. Keep crying with your agenda and learn about actual history of Kashmir.@@user-qwertyuiopasdfghj
@@user-qwertyuiopasdfghj -
Yes, we Chinese support Kashmir to be independent also.
Polymatter: where every video is about China. What happened to doing videos on companies, businesses, and other topics? Besides just one country?
"One China Policy" 😆
I like the china content but he could diversify his topics .
I imagine it's just something that interests him. There's plenty of other great information channels for you check out like cheddar or techaltar
China brings views and he may be passionate about it
He actually does quite a bit on other topics still, I mean just literally look at his channel lmao