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  • @arkorat3239
    @arkorat3239 2 місяці тому +203

    "I love that you can buy the battle pass using the coins you get from the previous battle pass."
    "Feedback received, we will remove it. 👍"

  • @jabari7158
    @jabari7158 2 місяці тому +597

    It may seem insignificant, but it’s small things like this that push the corpos into total control, a small change here a small change there that’s framed as beneficial to you but in the end only helps some 60 year old ultra rich guy in a California mansion afford his next supercar

    • @leana339
      @leana339 2 місяці тому

      Which has been a thing for almost 20 years now. Especially with f2p games small MTX growing bigger and bigger making packages to hook people and so on. Companys trained their players for years and that BP System won't be changed even the Blackcell pass is on Steam each Season it comes out Topseller.

    • @leemurrison9869
      @leemurrison9869 2 місяці тому +7

      The Frog Boilinator5000 ticks up one more degree.

    • @thephoenixlord2355
      @thephoenixlord2355 2 місяці тому +16

      This doesn't seem insignificant. And I dont think anyone sees this as beneficial

    • @hehemicaeljakson
      @hehemicaeljakson 2 місяці тому +1

      Lmao, I don't see people thinking that this is small unless they are dumb.

    • @RIP_ZYZZ1738
      @RIP_ZYZZ1738 2 місяці тому

      If your issue with this is that some sleepy billionaire is benefiting, you’re insecure. It’s the same energy as people being mad that a streamer is rich enough to gamble thousands, and not the fact that they’re gambling thousands.

  • @michellerahe4853
    @michellerahe4853 2 місяці тому +361

    They are basically destroying their own game. They have been listening to the community less and less. Throwing us half idea overpriced skins.
    Less consistent balance updates.
    Big widespread cheater problem.
    Going against 3 stacks in pubs in a sbmm that is so bad its made to make you lose.
    Idk its nowhere near as fun as it used to because of all of this combined

    • @fourscarlet7581
      @fourscarlet7581 2 місяці тому +9

      Their matchmaking is not SBMM. It's EOMM.
      It's meant to keep most players at 50/50 win loss.

    • @lightningrose1345
      @lightningrose1345 2 місяці тому +18

      @@fourscarlet7581i hate to tell you, apex legends, a Battle Royale, is absolutely not keeping people at a 50/50 win loss...what are you smoking? Can i get some of that??

    • @fourscarlet7581
      @fourscarlet7581 2 місяці тому +15

      @@lightningrose1345 I used W/L as an example of what EOMM tries to do.
      However there have been plenty of people pointing out that the matchmaking prioritizes engagement over skill.
      It's why after a loss streak you tend to win, any why it's harder to get multiple wins in a row (Compared to earlier in the games life cycle).
      However I am inebriated so my explanation probably sucks.

    • @ArcturusAlpha
      @ArcturusAlpha 2 місяці тому +3

      welcome to triple A games where everything is run like its owned by a private equity firm

    • @azseal2669
      @azseal2669 2 місяці тому

      Real

  • @ThrawnIsAlive
    @ThrawnIsAlive 2 місяці тому +168

    So, it seems like the math works out to being twice as many free coins a season, twice as many paid coins a season (for twice the price), 4 times as many paid crafting metals (for twice the price). Which honestly doesn't sound terrible (basically sounds like a wash), until you factor in that the COINS CAN'T BE USED FOR THE BATTLE PASS! At that point, there's almost no increased value (twice as many coins for twice the price and you HAVE to spend $$$ to get the pass). Do they really think no one will notice?

    • @Raxus001
      @Raxus001 2 місяці тому +2

      So are people upset because they only want BP cosmetics? Cuz you can use those earned coins to buy other things in the shop/collection events….so they still have purchasing power and value. But I guess the community only wants to buy BPs with their coins instead of collection event skins, that are way better btw, with those coins you earn.

    • @theflyingtoaster7414
      @theflyingtoaster7414 2 місяці тому +4

      The real deal breaker is if the passes are much easier to unlock, Grindy battle passes ramp up toxicity and player division harder than anything else, and now there's less time and more money spent. New BP's aren't a better deal but still the best deal if you can just turn it on and clear it easily.

    • @PJ-oe6eu
      @PJ-oe6eu 2 місяці тому

      People who buy battlepasses put themselves in this position. I'm happy playing most games as long as a battlepass is just skins and I couldn't care less how assfucked cucked battlepass enjoyers are getting as they are basically subsidising my free to play experience.

    • @Assassin4408
      @Assassin4408 Місяць тому

      ​@@Raxus001Collection skins are and were always overpriced af. The only cost worth thing in the shop is BP and it will be gone soon

    • @Piman1607
      @Piman1607 Місяць тому +4

      Also the twice as many coins thing isn't as nice because the usefulness of the coins has gone down because you can't buy the pass with them.

  • @DudeFromWisco
    @DudeFromWisco 2 місяці тому +129

    For those out of the loop as far as Apex goes, the game is borderline unplayable because of the cheaters, optimization and server stability. Its been this way for some time. Zero communication, then this was dropped on our foreheads.
    The BP changes alone are egregious but on top of everything else? Most Apex players are considering this the beginning of the end of an already slow decline into a dead game.
    Our top streamers are constantly being stream sniped by cheaters. Some of those going for #1 Pred have had to stop streaming and in same cases, stop playing.
    The server stability has never been worse. Random insane packet loss, constant high ping servers, ranked disconnects left and right.
    We've had the same 3 boring metas, both weapon and legend, for almost 2 years now. Its a constant cycle of inability to balance and unwillingness to act on the devs part.
    We havent had a well functioning ranked mode since May 2022.
    We recently hit one of the lowest recorded player counts ever and the lowest since 2021.
    Very minimal public communication about any of it, often times whole seasons without addressing anything.

    • @tuckmasterg
      @tuckmasterg 2 місяці тому +16

      Oh so Apex somehow makes OW look like a god tier game
      That's both shocking and very sad

    • @DudeFromWisco
      @DudeFromWisco 2 місяці тому +18

      @@tuckmasterg A few months ago I picked up OW again after not playing very much of it since OW1 on console. This game feels, looks and plays incredible in comparison. Not to dismiss OWs very glaring issues, but yes, its an objectively much better game right now.

    • @123Suffering456
      @123Suffering456 2 місяці тому +3

      That is sad to hear. I've not played Apex in years, but back then it was good fun. Occasionally considered giving it another try over the years, but it seems it isn't really good anymore at all from what you're saying.

    • @temmlygaming5509
      @temmlygaming5509 2 місяці тому

      ​@@tuckmastergapex makes tf2 look good

    • @julianclark2904
      @julianclark2904 2 місяці тому +1

      @@DudeFromWiscosame except I never (minus like 5 mins) played ow1.

  • @Shadybornsinner
    @Shadybornsinner 2 місяці тому +144

    “E A Sports, fck this game” 😂

    • @Unmend
      @Unmend 2 місяці тому +1

      😂

    • @joshuaposada9226
      @joshuaposada9226 2 місяці тому +1

      💀💀💀💀

    • @demontan4535
      @demontan4535 2 місяці тому

      E A sports put money in the game 🎉🎉! This battle pass change reminded me this is infact the company that makes fifa . Can’t wait for fc 25 to be the same as fifa 17 but somehow worse connections worse gameplay and more micro transactions. E A sports the stuff you want is not in the game !!! But the stuff that makes money sure is 👍

    • @amaterasu1145
      @amaterasu1145 2 місяці тому

      Playing a game for the first time not knowing who it’s made
      E A SPORTS
      NOOO IT HAD SUCH PROMISE
      I never knew apex was made by EA sports now it’s all making sense

  • @Shneisty
    @Shneisty 2 місяці тому +55

    Remember, when you’re feeling bad about OW, just look at Apex and go “at least we’re not them”

    • @Drsteezymcgee
      @Drsteezymcgee 2 місяці тому +3

      Hey! 😡

    • @Daniel-rc2bu
      @Daniel-rc2bu 2 місяці тому +13

      ​@@Drsteezymcgeenah bro I play both and they're both extra cooked frfr 😂

    • @NattsXD
      @NattsXD 2 місяці тому +4

      As people say a true apex fan never speaks good about apex
      The game is horrible and unplayable, bad servers and cheaters in every lobby if you're diamond or above and now somehow an even worse monetization than before

    • @rb9951
      @rb9951 Місяць тому +3

      Both are garbo

    • @maisysworld5855
      @maisysworld5855 Місяць тому

      The tables of turned dang …

  • @Creddz69
    @Creddz69 2 місяці тому +141

    To be fair. Apex Ledgends already had the worst Battle Pass of all AAA fps games. Their skins are weak af and overpriced. Half the heirlooms are lack luster at best and cost $100+

    • @YMan-zo5kg
      @YMan-zo5kg 2 місяці тому +23

      $500+ for heirlooms actually

    • @hbshadow8981
      @hbshadow8981 2 місяці тому +11

      @@YMan-zo5kg
      160 for a collection event
      500 if ur unlucky in 500 packs

    • @E4pi4mak
      @E4pi4mak 2 місяці тому +15

      i was satisfied with their bp as long as you were able to get enough coins for the next one, now its just a fcking scam

    • @Skeevee
      @Skeevee 2 місяці тому

      @@hbshadow8981a collection event has never been $160 with an heirloom included. It’s always been $240+ unless you somehow managed to hoard materials.

    • @elgranmanco8201
      @elgranmanco8201 2 місяці тому

      Even BRAWL STARS have a better one, and Is a Mobile game, how this even happen?

  • @caffinatedredpanda9964
    @caffinatedredpanda9964 2 місяці тому +22

    Badges are a lil different in apex, you display up to 3 on a character banner. They have been around before ow2 came out. They are usually lil animated badges

    • @angrybirdsking123
      @angrybirdsking123 2 місяці тому +7

      As an apex player, badges are just as useless as the stickers and charms.

    • @NattsXD
      @NattsXD 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@angrybirdsking123I even forgot stickers existed, I just put the default ones on the heals when they came out and then just forgot about them, they're not even noticeable in game lol

  • @copuim_dealer
    @copuim_dealer 2 місяці тому +14

    I love how they say "ohh now you can only buy with real money and you can buy 2 times per season so you get 2seasons worth of rewards each season or in other words: you can only pay in real money, need to pay twice for a full season,can no longer get the battle pass for free and get lower quality rewards🎉🎉🎉 and this is done to make it easier and better for you the consum-..... we mean player
    This is EA greed

  • @areono460
    @areono460 2 місяці тому +77

    This game died for me 3 years ago ..... it's always about money smh 🤦

    • @waverazor
      @waverazor 2 місяці тому +3

      for you it died, maybe. the game is still doing amazing with player #s

    • @lightningrose1345
      @lightningrose1345 2 місяці тому +18

      @@waverazori guess but most of the players on now are sweats who have over 8 thousand hours already dedicated to apex. There are no casuals anymore, the game has under half its 24 hour user count that it had 3 years ago so it's definitely not doing just as well as it was, not even close

    • @AngrySecs
      @AngrySecs 2 місяці тому +8

      ​@@waverazoramazing? They just hit their lowest number of players since 2020. The game is dying. And this will only make it faster

    • @soloalpaca5772
      @soloalpaca5772 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@AngrySecs Apex is sitting at 80 to 100k players at all times on just Steam. Trust me the game is doing fine and sadly EA is going to make bank off of this. Tooooooo many wallet gamers in the world

    • @BuffedPotato
      @BuffedPotato Місяць тому +1

      @@AngrySecs According to steam stats, they are now at around 225K, they were at this level last time in Dec 2021, so they are doing fine. 225K just on steam is A LOT of players, most live service games could only dream of such numbers. Numbers are from steamdb
      Now if the trend continues and they reach 100K, now that would be concerning, for now it's just drama and people will probably go back after a week or two (I hope they don't, but that's copium)

  • @romeroamsrome
    @romeroamsrome 2 місяці тому +10

    state of apex so bad that we got overwatch streamer reacting to it

    • @romeroamsrome
      @romeroamsrome 2 місяці тому +2

      i love apex and overwatch bro why they gotta destroy the 2 fps games i love

  • @sparquisdesade
    @sparquisdesade 2 місяці тому +12

    "Such a greedy fence" :(

  • @A_kh669
    @A_kh669 2 місяці тому +51

    They unironically turning themselves into pre season 9 overwatch

    • @sparquisdesade
      @sparquisdesade 2 місяці тому +6

      Funny side note, the "reactive" animated weapon skin; which is of course for the gun that is currently OP AF, is actually a recolor of the first reactive skin for the gun. Itt's literally jus blue instead of red

    • @thedetectove
      @thedetectove 2 місяці тому

      @@sparquisdesadefor this current season? It’s the 30-30 right? Yeah that gun is dogshit. It got nerfed into ground cuz the pros complained a lot

    • @GIJoeMeerkat
      @GIJoeMeerkat 2 місяці тому +2

      No, the havok, 30-30 isnt that good ​@thedetectove

    • @temmlygaming5509
      @temmlygaming5509 2 місяці тому

      Naw this is worse
      This is borderline tf2 level of bad

    • @demontan4535
      @demontan4535 2 місяці тому

      @@sparquisdesadeI’m telling you what’s gonna happen is since each half split bp has a reactive. Each split will give on of the 2 colour variants a normal bp bad both of. So you don’t even get a good skin from it just a recolour of one you already got

  • @noaharchambault8917
    @noaharchambault8917 Місяць тому +6

    You know your game is cooked when the OW2 community says your monetization is bad

  • @kio2960
    @kio2960 2 місяці тому +8

    Having to pay money to then spend time grinding for something you already paid for is crazy.

  • @JordanYee
    @JordanYee 2 місяці тому +4

    I don't play Apex and never have, but I'm watching and liking to support you, Flats. It's 2024 and no one deserves to be shackled to Overwatch.

  • @zexalplays628
    @zexalplays628 2 місяці тому +14

    This is what my favorite game titanfall 2 died for? This is the game everyone was riding on for so long? Ima stick to the game that set this up we may not get updates but that just means i know i cant be screwed over further

  • @Palkiria
    @Palkiria 2 місяці тому +5

    If I had a coin for very top notch game that ruined itself by abandoning balance and incorporating the most scummy monetization, I'd have two coins this month! OW using the good skins as exclusives for the 40 dollar bp & apex not letting you finish the bp until you spend 40 dollars. What a great time to play Elden Ring again!

    • @drjamaymay405
      @drjamaymay405 Місяць тому

      the $40 battle passes gives tier skips, nobody actually buys that one. it's a waste of money.

  • @Styr0Soup
    @Styr0Soup 2 місяці тому +18

    Apex is the epitome of whale hunting F2P game. Anti noob game that appeals to those who stuck around long enough to get good. A game thats been out for as long as it has with as big a skill ceiling as it has is ripe to milk their core fans for all they got. A sad state for gaming in 2024, and see this becoming a larger trend around the micro-transactionalizing of micro-transactions.

    • @NattsXD
      @NattsXD 2 місяці тому +4

      I remember someone tried listing every single movement tech in the game and it was a 2 page document of just the name of them

    • @reflectedpoj622
      @reflectedpoj622 Місяць тому +2

      Genshin

    • @NattsXD
      @NattsXD Місяць тому +1

      @@reflectedpoj622 Genshin doesn't have that high of a skill ceiling is just use abilities and ult in a specific order and dodge enemies or ignore the last one if you have a shielder. But yeah it's definitely a whale hunting f2p game

  • @King_Gaiseric
    @King_Gaiseric 2 місяці тому +4

    Man.. When Apex launched I was addicted for like the first 8 seasons, eventually I just started playing less n less til around season 10. Haven't played in ages.

  • @drifterbingus
    @drifterbingus 2 місяці тому +29

    Battlepasses are a cancer on gaming. I really dislike the free game with a premium battlepass monitization model, but it is unfortunately attached to the type of games that I typically enjoy playing the most. I miss when games had challenges to complete to unlock the cool gear. I used to associate high end cosmetics with skill at the game. Now it just means someone spent money.

    • @Keldiur
      @Keldiur 2 місяці тому

      Or a bit of money and all their free time. BP are there to keep the average Joe playing. The shop is for the whales.
      It's half the reason they split the BP in 2. Half of players grinded the shit out of the game in a few weeks and left. Those players will not be exposed to the shop for 2 months and that us unacceptable. Need to sink all those hours to get a fallacy going.

    • @genesisosuna
      @genesisosuna 2 місяці тому +5

      Fortnite is really the only game that does battle passes right.

    • @sweatywraith1v1me8
      @sweatywraith1v1me8 Місяць тому

      That’s what makes it unique so people don’t get it if they missed that season I like it and I like the system can’t wait

    • @weirdeurasianboy8091
      @weirdeurasianboy8091 Місяць тому

      i am just happy that there's 1500 guaranteed white credits to unlock legendaries for a hero every season. I bought one full season BP and the mini BP from Christmas and I have Legendaries for all heroes except Sombra, Genji and Venture (though Venture is a bit of a stretch tbh)

  • @gameover_477
    @gameover_477 2 місяці тому +2

    "We've heard the community feedback on the bot and hacker issues in Apex Legends. Therefore we have decided to ruin Battle Passes." -EA/Respawn

  • @Planta_jo-7
    @Planta_jo-7 2 місяці тому +2

    Ok so basically they went the Clash Royale route huh

  • @jjohnfnchf7535
    @jjohnfnchf7535 Місяць тому +1

    Apex hasn’t had an Ocerwatch sized patch since season 8

  • @Frog_On_A_Piece_Of_Toast
    @Frog_On_A_Piece_Of_Toast 2 місяці тому +23

    I am a frog on a piece of toast

  • @Unknown_orbs
    @Unknown_orbs 2 місяці тому +2

    as a apex legends player since season 9 i would of been fine with the premium plus being added but the bp was the only thing most players had to grind for and now it is just flat out gone, not to mention about how you need to pay upwards of $300 dollars for a gambling event, $180 for a heirloom (melee item) and if you miss that heirlooms event you have to get lucky from packs or pay $500 to get it, and now they force us to pay for there battle pass

  • @majones117
    @majones117 2 місяці тому +22

    You're spending more AND having to grind longer to get everything. I'm so glad I never got addicted to buying these predatory passes.

    • @xDjembex
      @xDjembex 2 місяці тому +3

      Apex used to be the exception. I played for 14 or so seasons and had the BP every single season. I paid actual money ONE time and the BP pays for itself from season to season.

    • @brandondean5680
      @brandondean5680 2 місяці тому +1

      I bought one battlepass in season 9 and haven't had to buy another one with real money ever since. But after this they can keep it

    • @123Suffering456
      @123Suffering456 2 місяці тому

      Would love to see numbers on how many people are purchasing the BP from now on compared to before. Not that EA will reveal those, unless it shows them in a good light.

  • @dashjeff839
    @dashjeff839 2 місяці тому +2

    Half the season now, has the same items you can get for the whole season then. It means that rather than have to achieve lvl 110 to get all of them, you just need to get to level 60. So you get double the items for each season. It's a great change but only using real money is shit. The only reason people grind the battle pass and play your game is to get enough coin to buy the next battle pass.

  • @MetroRetro31
    @MetroRetro31 2 місяці тому +11

    Apex doing this not suprised the game is ass anyways 😭with all the glitches games has

  • @SonicOW755
    @SonicOW755 2 місяці тому +84

    honestly this just reminds me of how good Overwatch's battlepass actually is. Yes, some themes are not for everyone, but the value and quality of items u get is far beyond games like Valorant and Apex Legends which really just put the ugly skins into the battlepass and 90% of their rewards are just doo doo.

    • @mateuszkrytyk5711
      @mateuszkrytyk5711 2 місяці тому +19

      Nah overwatch does the same as two others
      Put crap in battlepass put cool stuff into the shop

    • @_GLXC
      @_GLXC 2 місяці тому +16

      wtf? OW battle pass was literally the worst one because you couldn't even renew it. this is just Apex copying overwatch. At this point the only battlepass that gives actual longterm progression is Fortnite...

    • @thedetectove
      @thedetectove 2 місяці тому

      @@mateuszkrytyk5711imo no. Apex battle passes are LITTERED with ugly rare skins(like 1 for every weapon and most legends). There are also tons of very awful trackers that serve so purpose other than to say “you have 15 kills in season 22.” There’s 2-3 of these for every legend. We get about 3 legendary skins, 5-6 epic skins(recolors) a couple charms, sprays and emotes. Maybe 10-15% of the battle pass has worth while rewards.

    • @CoolGuyFaceMan
      @CoolGuyFaceMan 2 місяці тому

      @@mateuszkrytyk5711 usually there is at least 3 good skins in the battlepass + the mythic shards, highlight intros and emotes are good too, idk if it's always 10 dollars worth but it's better than this apex nonsense lmao

    • @xDjembex
      @xDjembex 2 місяці тому +7

      You just described OW's battlepass. Stop complimenting the monetization of this game.

  • @questionable_live
    @questionable_live 2 місяці тому +2

    I actually really like this system in Overwatch where you buy 2 battle passes you essentially get the third battle pass free as long as you play enough I hope this doesn't change and seems fair

  • @the_vengeful_one6040
    @the_vengeful_one6040 Місяць тому +1

    You know what EA is an acronym for?
    Eternal
    Avarice

  • @festusfive9157
    @festusfive9157 2 місяці тому +2

    bro i CANNOT BELIEVE there are people cooked enough to still be playing apex, played from launch and tortured myself until season 11 or so, one of the worst set of decisions i ever made

  • @chunkbungus
    @chunkbungus 2 місяці тому +1

    Ape sex Legends is gonna be going down as one of the hardest declines of all time.

  • @qwertyg3666
    @qwertyg3666 2 місяці тому +2

    The issue isn't the price increase in isolation it's that they're increasing the price when the game is borderline unplayable due to the absurd levels of cheaters which respawn/ea has not acknowledged at all. If they fixed the cheater issue and the balancing then I wouldn't really have an issue with the price. It is a solely cosmetic purchase after all.

  • @caffinatedredpanda9964
    @caffinatedredpanda9964 2 місяці тому +1

    Heirloom is a lil different. Reactive is a type of legendary weapon skin that reacts to kills or damage etc. Heirlooms are like the themed weapon skins in ow, there are Heirloom melee weapons for each character and there are Heirloom skins that have special visual effects. They usually come with a unique finishers.

  • @jemarshaw4986
    @jemarshaw4986 2 місяці тому +1

    7:08 apex legends have always battle pass badges since season 1

  • @Smartfan07
    @Smartfan07 Місяць тому +3

    The most hated stuff about the new BP system is surely the restriction of using apex coins to buy it. If they keep the possibility to buy it with apex coins, everything else is fine, not a great problem, even doubling the amount of BPs per season.
    The problem is that they are making apex coins useless for most of the players, because, you know, due to high prices for in-game shop cosmetics the only cosmetics a casual player was getting all the way before was from the BP. Who dafuq will buy the single skin for a price of 2.5 BPs? So people just bought BPs and gathered ACs for further BPs and for that small bunch of ACs left they sometimes purchased some stuff from the shop.
    And now the whole system is ruined cause you can no longer buy BP with AC...
    And that is the way to destroy the game.

  • @soberstoners7610
    @soberstoners7610 2 місяці тому +2

    I wonder how people would react to AAA games costing $100 or more. (Not talking about overwatch) but big titles in general have been around the same price forever. It’s nice having cheap games and steam is king obv but since game studios don’t bring in nearly as much money as compared to back then I feel like it might’ve hurt gaming in general since to make profits they keep having to cut corners and sacrifice the quality of their product. I mean Skyrim cost 10 dollars more than smb3 that came out in 1990 20 years before. I think a lot of companies rode that high until inflation caught up with them and either got bought out or bankrupt

    • @NattsXD
      @NattsXD 2 місяці тому +1

      I mean, the new cod game is at 70 USD right now, and it has a vault edition that cost 100 usd. It's only a matter of time until the AAA games cost 100 usd

    • @drjamaymay405
      @drjamaymay405 Місяць тому +1

      yeah games are expensive to make. If people aren't willing to spend more upfront, then they will suffer though more predatory micro transactions.

  • @The_LightArrow
    @The_LightArrow 2 місяці тому +2

    its like evolving.... but backwards

  • @dejwone4860
    @dejwone4860 Місяць тому

    Flats reading patch notes is ASMR

  • @7_sharkie_7
    @7_sharkie_7 2 місяці тому +1

    Just when I thought I was gonna try this game again lol no wayyyy am I gonna try it again after this

  • @sovietonion._.3888
    @sovietonion._.3888 2 місяці тому +3

    Who the fuck let Apex cook

  • @Joshua-xm1kv
    @Joshua-xm1kv 2 місяці тому +1

    It's basically battlefront all over again

  • @Cressian
    @Cressian 2 місяці тому +1

    No game is sacred, no gamer is safe. They saw how much money Blizz was getting from players and said, "Hold my Beer"

  • @IonMaiden
    @IonMaiden 2 місяці тому +1

    Imagine if they made this much effort into actually fixing the game

  • @Arten_380
    @Arten_380 Місяць тому

    I started playing apex literally 5 days before those BP changes, but I see what's wrong with those prices. They have at least 6 kinds of coins, newest ones are Shards and they have price of mythic coins in OW, but as far as I know, you can only buy them.
    Also unlocking new legends is hell. I played over 60 matches and I still got half of the points needed to buy a legend, even in Valorant it easier - you got 5 free agent at the start, but it takes probably 3 hours to complete beginner contract to get 2 new agents and then you can buy rest with Kingdom credits which are pretty easy to earn.

  • @contentconsumer3743
    @contentconsumer3743 2 місяці тому +1

    This used to be Titanfall….

  • @Gemspinner
    @Gemspinner 2 місяці тому +1

    Surprisingly fortnite from the start still have the best shop/battle pass system and I don't even play fortnite

  • @McThe25th
    @McThe25th 2 місяці тому +15

    Idk flats you tell me

  • @jacobschultz5576
    @jacobschultz5576 2 місяці тому +2

    I genuinely like everything about this except for the real money thing. The only reason i dont buy the passes now is the filler crappy items that make grinding the pass feel bad. The real money isnt even that bad since ill just use the ac to buy event packs.

  • @ctm3922
    @ctm3922 2 місяці тому +1

    "underused rewards" is so blatant and crazy man

  • @Shzl47
    @Shzl47 Місяць тому +1

    The only way this "added value" makes sense is if the first pass doesn't have a half-season timer and can be completed throughout the season. Because as a casual Apex-enjoyer, the "more rewards in less tiers" is appealing to me because I would rarely ever complete a season's Battle Pass. 110 tiers is alot and you really didn't get much out of them. The new Passes are about 1.75x better in terms of rewards, but my only concern is a potential timer.

  • @erick_ac
    @erick_ac Місяць тому

    From an old seasoned Apex player (since literally S1), it sucks. The previous pass was value, it provided what a player would want from a season, 1 cool skin for weapon and 1 cool skin for legend and some objectives to grind.
    Now for OW people, the Apex coins that were used to unlock the pass (if you wanted) ONLY WERE AVAILABLE to unlock if you BOUGHT the pass, you couldnt get the coins with a free pass.
    I really wouldnt have minded the change to only use money to buy the pass BUT NOW I HAVE TO DO IT TWICE A SEASON, thats stupid. People dont want skins, really, they are not evem that good and you could rarely diatinguish them in the game.

  • @Feesh116
    @Feesh116 2 місяці тому +2

    to play devil's advocate i'm one of the reasons for this change, i bought one battle pass in season 2 and have ridden it all the way to now without paying for a BP and have more Legend tokens than I will ever need. THAT BEING SAID. the only reason i stuck around, bought more skins, kept playing, and overall gave it even a chance each season was because i could exploit the battle pass. but it was one "free" thing that kept me coming back and kept me interacting with the game and purchasing more coins for other cosmetics or events. idk EA and AAA devs think giving anything away for free is "money left on the table" but it actually keeps people interested especially when that "free" thing costs them literally $0.

    • @drjamaymay405
      @drjamaymay405 Місяць тому

      I'm okay with a change, but I think their direction is incorrect.
      overwatch gives you a partial refund for completing the pass, just decrease the amount of coins you get back and you're good.

  • @Kook_604
    @Kook_604 Місяць тому

    this battle pass system has so much potential but the pricing leaves in dead in its tracks
    the only redeeming quality is thats enough crafting materials to buy 1 event legendary for free

  • @adaincain9457
    @adaincain9457 Місяць тому

    as a person that plays Apex 110 is always the max when you reach level 100 in the battle pass you get a reactive skin and this reactive skin reacts to Knox and kills and then the process of getting up to 110 you don't get anything there are no rewards in between 101 and 109 when you get to 110 though you get a recolored version of the same reactive skin

  • @Eon_Kain
    @Eon_Kain 2 місяці тому +1

    This is even after the $360 death boxes earlier this year btw.

  • @K1ngHoward
    @K1ngHoward 2 місяці тому +1

    You know, I have been thinking that these cosmetic shops aren't just for making money, they also create an incentive structure for the devs to never put their main focus on the game. Sure, it helps them get money to work on the game, but if all of their cash comes from selling skins, all it takes is one accountant to look at where the money is coming from to force all development to head towards the shops. Does making a better game for the players get more money? Yes, but not in the short term, and unless some suit looks out for the long term, all games with a cosmetic shop will continuously get shittier and shittier.
    In theory a shop should provide more funds for a better game, but over time without a long term gaming focus, it will only lead to a declining game as they place more focus on more and more shop sales.

  • @thedofflin
    @thedofflin 2 місяці тому +1

    Their smoke machine isn't working and their mirrors are broken

  • @SpartanEagle7
    @SpartanEagle7 2 місяці тому +1

    Praise be helldivers

  • @OZITOMAE
    @OZITOMAE Місяць тому

    This is what finally broke me and I've stopped playing... for now.

  • @MetroAndroid
    @MetroAndroid 2 місяці тому +1

    Requiring a $10-15 monthly subscription to play would make more sense than this mumbo-jumbo.

  • @allofit5868
    @allofit5868 Місяць тому

    That’s a lot of words to say they doubled the price of the battlepass

  • @jrandaman989
    @jrandaman989 Місяць тому

    now is the perfect time for gearbox to revive battleborn

  • @40plusgamer
    @40plusgamer 2 місяці тому

    “We’ll give you more fake money to spend on not-real items you won’t actually own! WHAT A BARGAIN!”

  • @MikeGrau0hr
    @MikeGrau0hr 2 місяці тому

    thanks for covering this.
    yep were having a meltdown... last patch came with new bugs and more frequent crashes too... after they made HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS profit thanks to their fanbase they put nothing back into the game it feels...

  • @Jaekization
    @Jaekization 2 місяці тому +2

    It would be a great change if you could spend apex coins. More materials, exotic shards, loot boxes etc per season. It’s just the fact they arent allowing you to spend apex coins

  • @ClairoFan
    @ClairoFan Місяць тому

    You know it’s bad when flats makes a vid on it😂😂😂

  • @Camscam
    @Camscam Місяць тому

    Indie games are the future; Lethal Company, Hades, Deep Rock Galactic, Content Warning, Among Us, Helldivers 2, Baldur's Gate 3, the list goes on...

  • @alejandromoya5104
    @alejandromoya5104 2 місяці тому +1

    It’s hilarious to see how each mega corp dips their toes into further anti consumer features to see what we tolerate, as we slowly but surely find ourselves closer to a dystopian future. It’s crazy to think things like map packs and huge dlcs used to be like 5-10 bucks a pop and now we have this.

    • @drjamaymay405
      @drjamaymay405 Місяць тому

      maps and dlc's are free in pvp games.

  • @levanoon9286
    @levanoon9286 Місяць тому +1

    @Flats, 20 bucks is only for 25 level skips, but nobody buys these, you get all the way through bp after half of the season

  • @va_fix3266
    @va_fix3266 Місяць тому

    Still waiting for skydive trails for old prestige skins😂

  • @Bizarrebirchdoesgame
    @Bizarrebirchdoesgame 2 місяці тому +3

    Call of duty started this trend. They sell $40 battle passes every season and lock the cool cosmetics behind it. It’s so scummy. Fortnite (A FREE GAME) has never done anything remotely as greedy.

  • @skarloeythomas5172
    @skarloeythomas5172 2 місяці тому

    Coins in OW battle pass don’t give a little extra. Over the course of the season, challenges will have given more, like 660 or something.

  • @kaychan7242
    @kaychan7242 2 місяці тому +1

    i mean other than the the must use money to buy the battle path. The split of season is Litterally just the OW2 battle pass duration. They saw people buying OW2 bp every season and wwere like we want that. We forget their seasons are a lot longer than OW seasons so splitting it by 2 is just getting to almost Ow2 seasons

    • @drjamaymay405
      @drjamaymay405 Місяць тому

      down to 60 from 110 is just 5 levels over half, in half the time frame is okay.
      it's a fine change, just that you cant buy with in-game currency is silly.
      the standard is to give back ~50-100% of the cost of the bp in in game currency, I don't think apex is going to be revolutionary here.

  • @devoid4661
    @devoid4661 Місяць тому

    At the very least they didn't try justifing it by calling it a sequel

  • @40plusgamer
    @40plusgamer 2 місяці тому +2

    So wait lemme get this straight: they actually said you can’t buy the pass for coins, but if you buy the pass and earn it, we’ll REFUND you in OUR FAKE CURRENCY that YOU CAN’T USE TO BUY IT. Holy CRAP dude.

  • @f687sNFM
    @f687sNFM Місяць тому +1

    Inb4 blizzard copies this since people will still pay

  • @gamingwithash3349
    @gamingwithash3349 Місяць тому

    Am glad even overwatch youtubers are talking about this, I hope EA fixes their own issues about cheaters, ximmers and then perhaps talk about looting the consumers

  • @Arrench_san
    @Arrench_san Місяць тому

    Did they seriously never thought about the players regional price differences at all? 10 US dollars in poor countries can buy them a fortune.

  • @ninthfriend3347
    @ninthfriend3347 2 місяці тому

    Investors > players.
    It's all about that infinite growth.

  • @sebamiranda40
    @sebamiranda40 Місяць тому

    Overwatch team: Mmmm, this is interesting...

  • @memegod2872
    @memegod2872 2 місяці тому

    that article looks like a giant lawsuit waiting to happen

  • @breezy3176
    @breezy3176 2 місяці тому

    Its funny that all they had to do to have people accept this change was keep it with apex coins and not paying directly

  • @kirillnezhentsev7700
    @kirillnezhentsev7700 Місяць тому

    On my next CV I'll add I've bever bought a batlle pass for any of the games I've played.

  • @Punchbadguy
    @Punchbadguy Місяць тому

    Just for people who are struggling with the currency. $9.99=1000 coins, 950 was one bp worth 110 levels. Now you have to spend $9.99x2 for 120 levels. This is literally a little more than doubling the price of the bp.
    Edit: Also you would only needed to spend $9.99 at first cause the bp payed for itself, so now instead of investing $9.99 at the start and having bp forever you HAVE to spend $20 for bp every season.

  • @pacothetaco9050
    @pacothetaco9050 Місяць тому

    No apex had the BP badge from s1 BP

  • @redsky3269
    @redsky3269 2 місяці тому +2

    Blizzard taking notes rn. I can hear them screaming "write that down WRITE THAT DOWN"

    • @GunieaPig
      @GunieaPig 2 місяці тому

      No blizzard is greedy but not this greedy

  • @RemedieX
    @RemedieX 2 місяці тому

    Crazy how they dedicated so much time and resources into designing, preparing to implement, how to announce it, etc instead of making the game better lol

  • @scorch6234
    @scorch6234 2 місяці тому

    one thing flats didnt think bout this also tenticaly double the amount of time you have to play for apex legends cuz of the hard split between them

    • @drjamaymay405
      @drjamaymay405 Місяць тому

      before: 110 levels
      after: 2 passes with 60 levels each, 120 total.
      its 10 more levels per season, so not double, but a bit more

  • @pendingchange3776
    @pendingchange3776 2 місяці тому

    always remember people just becuase they have it *worse* doesnt mean we are ok

  • @TundraCrow
    @TundraCrow Місяць тому

    Its a good day on the internet when a corporation's tweet gets slammed with a community note informing them their actions are not to appease their customers, but more obviously appeal to their share holders.
    If hese share holders have such big pockets to put your hand into. Maybe try convincing them to buy your micro transactions to invest in your company instead of the gamers footing the bill.

  • @findzy4419
    @findzy4419 Місяць тому

    the people allow it, narrative needs to be on us stopping it

  • @pokemonteaml
    @pokemonteaml 2 місяці тому

    If this happened in overwatch the players would not HESITATE to leave and kill the game, a lotta Apex players are too scared too leave

  • @mailboxington
    @mailboxington 2 місяці тому

    people are saying "but they gotta make money" and I agree, they do need to make money to support the game, and that's what collection events are for. The battlepass works like free drinks at a casino, the money they make off of it is small potatoes but those free drinks keep you at the casino longer, and that extra time you're spending there might entice you to play a few games of roulette or in this case, buy an heirloom, because you gotta play the season out to finish the battlepass and every minute you're playing the game is a minute you're likelier to buy out a collection event
    I don't like overwatches battlepass much myself but at least there are no 160$ events every season so you can kinda understand a little more why they don't just let you rebuy the battle pass every season

  • @Kaiten92
    @Kaiten92 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for spreading the word about how messed up the new Apex BP is but I wish you would go the extra step to either talk with an actual player or familiarize yourself first. Things like "the OW battle pass gives more coins" is debatable without context. The "200" and "400" Apex coins in the "Free track" refer to free coins for players who don't buy the BP at all and just play the game. The premium bundle (base BP) usually gave 1300 coins and the base BP price was 950. So almost everyone would buy the BP with IRL money once and then use most of the coins from the BP to buy the next season's BP. It was a great system that truthfully rewarded you for constantly playing the game and felt like a one-time investment granted you rewards for life. Now they've essentially made it a subscription service.

  • @ollydavis2495
    @ollydavis2495 Місяць тому

    If people are dumb enough to spend hundreds on an heirloom they’ll be dumb enough to fall for this too

  • @ReedoTV
    @ReedoTV 2 місяці тому

    We halved the level you need to get to in order to complete the pass!
    …and doubled the number of passes 😂😂