Thanks for the feedback, I was wondering if it was the same in 1963. Definitely the 'grassy knoll' was a great place (the most discrete place) for a 2nd shooter.
Hi It’s not exactly the same as 63. There have been a few changes to it. Route of traffic changed. Paved areas now. Trees and signs different. Etc. Metal fencing around picket fence. ( idiots keep stealing wood pockets ) I don’t know why, a shooter was never there Oswald alone )
Very daunting, haunting, surreal experience. In this small corner of the world US history was changed forever, our society as we know it hasn’t been the same since
Consider that what was perceived to be the American Dream in the early 60's was just a perception. The assasination itself proves that. Just another banana republic.
I was 14 when President Kennedy was killed & my life changed from that day on. Marty M, I believe it’s surreal - & honestly believe I could never walk along Dealey Plaza. It just would be too awful & very sad, even 58 years later.
Thank you for a virtual tour for those who have not had the chance to visit this historically mysterious place....still wonder who was / were standing there on the fatal day !
Visited in the late 90s. I was stunned by how small the area is. It seems that anyone there that day would have had no problem recognizing the direction the sound of rifle fire came from.
I think Frontline, or some other news show, did acoustical tests regarding how loud echoes would be at Dealey Plaza and from where those echoes would come from if firing a rifle from the School Book Depository. If I'm recalling correctly, a rifle shot from the Depository would echo from the area of the grassy knoll with 80% the volume of the sound of the original shot. So, it might explain why people thought they heard a shot from the grassy knoll. Just a theory. I'm not trying to get into a heated debate with anyone. Anyway, I visited Dealey Plaza four years ago and was also stunned by how small the area was compared to what I thought it would be, after seeing it so many times in movies and news shows.
@@thehighllama8101 If you'd been one of those folk who were closer to the GK than the TSBD, I'm positive you would have heard the original sound of a shot from the GK before the echo of a shot from the TSBD, due to the speed at which sounds travels. There's no doubt that echoes off solid structures CAN be disorientating, as to the origin of the sound. Yet, despite that caveat, it's been conclusively established that there were plenty more than three shots fired, from at least two locations, including the TSBD and the GK. I think it's extremely telling that so many (dozens!) who reported shots from the GK were not called by the Warren Commission, or even properly interviewed by the Dallas police. We all know we've been lied to about that tragic day for the world.
What a small area from looking at this , I really thought it was much bigger , much more area than I thought from the Zapruder film . The geometry has everything to do with the possibilities . Thanks for this
@@jaysilverheals4445 About the assassination's, everything is dark and maybe we never going to know the whole true but lets think on this for a moment, 1 lonely guy bought a gun and decided to kill the most powerful men on earth, really that's the true?
I give Dallas credit for preserving Dealy Plaza, TSBD, picket fence, highways, triple overpass, even X's in the street where Kennedy was struck. Alot of cities would have erased these reminders of such a tragic day. But in Dallas it's all still there, like a time capsule from sixty years ago. And it let's everybody visit and reconstruct it and make up their own minds about what happened.
@@Perrosiutico as usual with most conspiracy theorist, you are wrong and the facts prove it. Attached to the bottom of this is a video of Dealey Plaza from 1935 through 2015. Isn't the Internet a great thing? On May 24, 1964 there are pictures that clearly show the sign still there. Do you know what else is there? All the investigators investigating the assassination. I don't trust "baloney" or make wild claims, I back it up with actual evidence: ua-cam.com/video/Ndvp3oan_A0/v-deo.html
this remains fascinating.. It appears to be unchanged in its layout since the early 1960s.. well done, indeed…I can’t help but wonder if all the people who regularly drive this route can ever NOT think about where they are and why this place is so historic and important.
The details are very different nearly 60 years later. The chain link fence behind the picket fence was added since I was there last in 1998. The parking lot behind the knoll has been paved; it was just dirt when I was a kid in 1963. The signage is different. But the main shape of the streets, grounds and pergola remains the same. Many people remark on how much smaller it is than they had imagined. Since I grew up in Dallas and was 15 at the time of the assassination I don't experience that. After all these years I do look at it and realize what a perfect location it was for an ambush.
I was there just behind the fence at the corner, a few years ago, where anyone could be safely hidden for a shot (or more), with even a 2x scope, it would be as easy as pie. No doubt someone was right there firing a rifle that could be assembled or dissembled quickly, do the shot(s), pick up the shells, and make a fast getaway from a car in the parking lot right behind. Numerous witnesses saw smoke rising from there, and ran to that small area, as films showed right afterwards. If that doesn't prove a shots (probably the fatal one) came from there, nothing will.
What I find really interesting is that Dallas County uses the School Book Depository as office space, except for the sixth and seventh floors. Working there everyday, at a regular office job, would be surreal, at least for the first few days or weeks.
Wow! Incredible how accessible that area is today even. Such a vantage point, with cover, viable escape routes etc. It’s hard to believe the secret service weren’t complicit, with so many infractions of their protocols. But who would willingly put themselves in a vehicle you knew was going to be fired upon.
if it were so, it would most likely have been the head of the secret service of that detail in Dallas. The others were probably told to do certain things but not told why. This would give them cover plausible deniability.
@@franclin0 The front seat. I didn't say the Secret Service was involved. There is no evidence of that. The broken protocols will always cast some shadow of suspicion their way, though.
Probably millions of people have driven through Dealy Plaza before November 22nd, 1963 , and millions more after that day...Only one was NOT able to do it successfully in the short distance between the School Book Depository and the overpass. RIP Mr. Kennedy...God knows the truth of whatever happened that terrible day.
when I was there back in 2008. I was praying and asked Jesus what happened that day, you know all things. I heard Jesus speak to me, like in a audible voice, and He said: I could not protect him" and I knew immediately why.
This viddy puts a missing perspective on the location for me. From all the photos and movies from that horrible day, I was left with a choppy sense of what was where. Thanks for sharing your video tour of the area!
VERY well done, Donny. Thank you. Yes, 'agree with so many others how accessible and how well preserved all of that area still is. I guess that concrete platform with the steps is what Zapruder stood on when he took the home movies. It's hard to argue against beliefs that it was James Files that pulled the trigger on his Remington Fireball from up on the knoll if you've watched his interview from the Joliet State Prison, years ago.
Was definitely not files hes a story teller. Said he put the shell casing on the picked Fence after he took the shot.There were hundreds of people there within minutes .one being sam Hollend a railway worker who checked the fence with his 3 co workers because they saw smoke coming out under the trees on the knoll .they were stood on the overpass. They found nothing and neither did anyone else. Filds says he took the shot looked for the caseing on the floor picked it up and bit it with his teeth and put it on the fence. This is all when he just shot the president and people were running up the knoll.Totall rubbish. Hes a fantasist.
@@arricammarques1955 Well...The Kennedy family was fraught with indecency in many ways...JFK showed promise as a good leader, but our society has elevated him, due to his brutal death...but as the 1960s unraveled, so did the notion that we were an innocent society!
@@curbozerboomer1773 surprise surprise the kennedys are just like any other family with its problems. JFK did what he could. Perhaps not as perfect as you.
Fascinating. Saw it in 1971, when I was there. Read, long back, that at one time, the School Book Depository building was to be razed, but it was stopped. By whom, I don't remember.
I was there almost that same day (Nov. 22) a few years ago for a conference about JFK's murder. Most people have believed it was a conspiracy ever since the first Gallup Poll on the question was first answered in late-Nov. '63, continuing with a huge majority rejecting the government WC narrative through the 2013 poll, the 50th anniversary. The government's own HSCA (House Select Committee on Assassinations (JFK, RFK, and MLK Jr, 1977-79) announced its finding that "Kennedy was probably killed by a conspiracy." Therefore, the 1964 Warren Commission Report saying only Oswald did it was completely debunked by 1979!
To me, three things rule out any shooter from this position: The angle is all wrong, as a frontal shot would have had to exit Kennedy's left side, which was completely undamaged; people on the overpass, who some thought they saw smoke at this location, arrived within seconds and found nothing besides some footprints, which could have been left there anytime; but most importantly any shot from this angle would have absolutely confirmed a conspiracy (since Connally's wounds especially are impossible to explain from any grassy knoll location), something one would think any conspirators would be trying their hardest to avoid. Yes, everything is so small at Dealey Plaza, but it's still a great place to apply Occam's Razor and a little common sense. Thanks for posting.
Thank you for putting this video. President Kennedy was a great friend of India. Kennedy cared a lot about India. This video takes us to places in dealey plaza that are usually never discussed or thought of.
The asphalt in the parking lot runs all the way to the picket fences. The railroad guy watching JFK's motorcade said, he saw the shots coming from the grassy knoll, behind the picket fences and ran there, but he could not find the shooter, only foot prints in the mud behind the fences.
The railway guys didn't say they was shots. They say they saw smoke. Yes, when they got behind the picket fence, they found foot prints...and cigarette butts. Hmmmm
The grassy knoll actually looks like a small place, thanks to this video. Most of the video footage from 22 Nov 1963 makes it appear like a large place. Now I think that the eyewitnesses who saw the smoke and heard the shots from the Knoll, would have actually even been able to even see the shooters up close.
Zapruder was filming on the grassy knoll and he filmed the corner of the picket fence. The railroad employee didn't see anyone on the parking lot side of the fence but he did see two people on the street side of the fence. One was the plaza groundskeeper. That makes it impossible to shoot from the Grassy Knoll. There were also a couple of people standing on the sidewalk between the fence and the street. There were two police officers on the overpass and they chase away spectators as ordered. Then about six railroad workers on their lunch break showed up and they successfully argued the officers were on railroad property and they had every right to be there. That makes any shot from the front impossible. Three people watched Oswald kill Kennedy. RoseMary Willis is on the Zapruder film as she watches.
@@shooterqqqq No that's not true. The majority of witnesses, including those in front of The TSBD heard shots from the front. The Z Film clearly shows JFK shot from the right front. The Doctors first reports describe an avulsive wound in the rear of the head.
@@vernpascal1531 Any shot from the front or sides is impossible. Autopsy shows a 6.5 millimeter hole in the back of the head and it was cratered. The bullet was found in two pieces. One on the front seat and the other on the floor. There was a crack on the inside of the windshield and a dent near the mirror. Do some research.
@@shooterqqqq No bullets make a small hole on one side going in and then flattens and bends and makes a big hole going out . The motorcycle cop behind the left side of the kennedy limousine was splattered with kennedys brains so bad he thought he must have been shot himself as it was happening . The headshot came from around the corner of the fence .. The secret service when alone with kennedys body tried to cut the forehead of kennedy with a pocket knife or something to try to make it appear to be an exit wound . But only made crude x - shaped cuts making it obviously a juvenile attempt at fooling the hospitals full of doctors .
Thanks for going to the SW end of the triple underpass. Several logical positions the shot through the windshield into JFK's throat may have originated. And the head shot as well.
There was NO shot through the windshield. Don't you think at this angle the shooter would've been seen by hundreds of people?! There were cops there too you know!
@@franclin0 : Just St saying it isn't so doesn't make it not so. Where do you think everyone was looking. No one had any reason to be looking at the Terminal Annex parking lot when noises were elsewhere, the motorcade was opposite, it was the perfect vantage point for ease of escape as well, whereas access to behind the knoll after the shots was accessed almost instantly. No one ran down to search the SW parking lot, (and if a dirty cop was in on it, standing guard, why would he do anything like that?) and as a man on the roof on the Postal Building told Mark Lane, the guy behind the fence ran away, probably right after the first shot, that more than likely missed the limo completely, hitting the street at the corner of Elm and Houston. Shots were fired from behind also towards the rear side of the limousine, and that drew attention diametrically opposite from the SW knoll. If you wish, I'll leave links for you to read or watch explaining the reasoning. Let me know.
@@rogerscottcathey so based on your theory, the shooter fired North or Northeast from the Terminal Annex building lot at the limo that was facing South West. The shooter miraculously missed all the spectators that were standing between him and the limo.. The bullet hit the windshield and took an immediate hard right to hit the president in the back seat?? That's some magic bullet YOU got there! You know what would've been so much easier? Oswald shooting the president from above and immediately behind. Which he did. Edit - also you've based this ridiculous theory on the idea that there was a bullet hole in the windshield, which there was NOT. Fact check it, the info is out there and it's just as easy to find as that conspiracy crap.
@@franclin0 : All what spectators standing between JFK and a SW shooter? You're obviously confused and disinterested in any links I offered to inform you as to the basis of my thinking. And you also obviously think by mockery and rude, demeaning writing you can somehow win an argument or debate. I grew up in a large family, and debate was encouraged, civilly, politely and maturely. If that doesn't suit you, conversation is over.
@@rogerscottcathey look at a google map of Dealey Plaza including the Annex building. Look at the satellite view. Look at the space between the parking lot of the Annex building and the X in the road where JFK was hit from the 2nd shot. In that space is Commerce St and Main St in between the 2 grass fields of Dealey. They both had spectators. You're saying a bullet traveled all that distance, missed all of the spectators, went through the windshield of the limo, missed the driver, missed Governor and Mrs. Connally, took a right turn and hit JFK in the throat? That's your theory? And tit for tat my friend, I have no issue checking out your links, but would you be willing to check out information that contradicts the windshield "hole"?
This is what happened that morning of November 22, 1963 in Dallas and the Zapruder video speaks very clearly. The presidential limousine takes Elm Street and after a few meters the first shot fired by Nicoletti starts who, together with Rosselli, was hidden in the Dal Tex Building. The first bullet misses its target and hits the sidewalk of the triple rail crossing at the end of the square and a splinter ends up in the face of James Tague, a passerby who was standing there. The second bullet hits Kennedy in the throat, and as you can see in the footage, the president puts his hands around his neck and Governor Connally turns back to understand what happened. The third bullet misses and ends up on the lawn where it is later found by an FBI man and Deputy Buddy Walthers. The fourth bullet hits Connally who emits a grimace of pain as seen in the video and brings his right hand to his stomach because he accuses an immediate pain and then the bullet pierces his right wrist and plants itself in the thigh of his left leg. The fifth bullet hits Kennedy in the back of the head and the sixth bullet, fired by James Files hiding on the grassy knoll half a second after the fifth shot, shoots both Kennedy's blood and head back, and the brain leaking was due to pressure. of the sixth bullet that had left an apple-sized hole behind Kennedy's head, as evidenced by photos of 14 people bringing their hands to the same spot on their heads. I say with certainty that the bullets were 6 because it seems that a shot was fired about every three seconds, that is the time to reload the rifle. Returning to Connally, which is the key to clarifying the mystery well, there is a lot to say. 1) First of all, from the angle in which Oswald would have found himself firing, which was about 45 degrees, only Kennedy would have been hit and no one else, the bullet could not in any way make a deviation and then hit the governor. 2) When Kennedy is shot Connally turns around to see what happens and stays there for about three seconds, the time to reload the shot in the rifle; if the governor had been hit by the magic bullet, at the same time as the president, he would have had the same reaction as Kennedy and would have neither the way nor the strength to look back. 3) The governor Connally when he is wounded is still turned and you see a grimace of pain as I mentioned before him and then turn forward again and collapse on his wife's legs. 4) In the video you can see how Connally bumps his head in front of the glass that separates him from the driver's and assistant's seats. 5) Do you know why Connally was hit? Both because Kennedy threw himself on his wife's right shoulder, because bending over did not hinder the trajectory of the fourth bullet that almost grazed him hitting the governor, and because the shot was fired by Nicoletti from the window of the Dal Tex Building and reached the governor, because Kennedy was leaning towards his wife. So, not only does the first missile reveal where the shot really came from, but also what hit Connally. Indisputable and real evidence, but unfortunately denied by many, including the Warren commission which veiled so much evidence.
James Files makes an interesting statement about two shots being fired almost instantly together. The #1 most credible witnesses to the condition of the President's body are the attending physician's. That gaping hole in the back of the skull is an exit wound. That flap in front of the president's right ear in Zapruder film is exit wound. Two hits, both hiding impact angles. With the rear of the skull blown out by second shot, it eliminates evidence of entrance of 1st shot. The exit hole of the 1st shot eliminates evidence of entry of 2nd shot. Only thing about Files firing from his reported angle is it brings Mrs. Kennedy into the sight picture. Plus the exit wound would have been opposite the skull from where it is, no? In this video, i'm glad to see he captured the storm drain and its removable grates in the far west corner of the parking lot. We have to go with what the photo's show us and they show a host of people and one Dallas police officer running to that spot or within 10 feet of it. They were ear witnesses and their actions mean something. Also the reaction of Charles and Beatrice. Once he put her on the ground you can see him get up and immediately walk and look out the back of the monument wall towards the parking lot. There was obviously something going on along the north side of Elm at other locations than the TSBD, A researcher who passed away recent, believed two shooters were in the furthermost shelter right behind Zapruder and his secretary. Only thing about that is Charles and Beatrice Hester had a birds eye view inside from where they were. They reported nothing. Daltex bldg, a possibility, records bldg also. The planners would have taken every precaution to make sure this target does not leave this site with sustainable wounds. JFK and Mrs. Kennedy already had Camelot status and a maimed, crippled president, commander in chief was not gonna happen. If that limo disappears beneath that RR underpass with him still alive then its gonna be a sh*t storm of unimaginable proportion. Two things. Somewhere along that route on Elm St was someone calling the shots. A curb coroner of sorts. That person would have to be visible to the last resort shooter. You would place that final gun as far down towards the RR underpass as possible. The target would be approaching his position and would put the target at about a 1 to 2 O'clock position in relation to the muzzle. Perfect match to the exit wound to back of skull. If you notice the presidents head prior to that shot is leaning slightly forward and he's facing left just a bit, bullet hits in exit wound of shot previously fired and takes out right rear of skull. They did not want to take that shot because it adds a big problem to all shots fired from other end of Elm, TSBD but they had no choice. The shot to back, to throat or whatever, the Zapruder film shows the President was still somewhat in control of his faculties, still alive and with a hospital nearby he most likely would have recovered. Someone activated that last shooter, someone close enough along that route to determine it was absolutely needed. Someone very close to the curb. The only place down at that end of the fence / parking lot where a shooter could be concealed is that storm inlet. A car parked on top perhaps to conceal it even more. Those witnesses ran there for a reason I believe. We have to stick with what was there, the closest witnesses at different locations. Behind the fence is non other than Lee Bowers, our ultimate witness. The RR workers on top the overpass, The Hesters and their reaction immediately following the shots. Back to Lee Bowers, do you recall him describing 3 cars entering the sealed off parking lot around 12:10 pm? He describes fresh mud on one all the way up the sides of the car. Well it rained till 8 or 9 am and all night and Dallas had paved roads so do we have a source for where the car drove thru mud after the rain? Had to be after or the rain would have rinsed the car somewhat. He said it looked fresh. Well I'll turn your attention to a witness whom came forward some years later. Sergeant Vinson, USAF. Hopped a flight out of Andrews trying to get home to Colorado, just him and the two pilots. Tail emblem on aircraft appeared to be a Globe with grid lines. Some 3 or 3 !/2 hours into flight the pilot announced the President had been shot, plane banked hard and Vinson recognized the Dallas Fort Worth skyline. Plane approached from the north and flew southeast over the city where he says it landed on what appeared to be an unpaved area, a place under construction with a tool shed, stated plane kicked up dust. Took on two passengers, one matched Roger Craig's dark man and the green Rambler in front of TSBD. Sergeant Vinson stated he could see the Trinity river and the Dallas skyline to his north. There is such a place, no houses, near Oak Cliff (Tippit & Oswald's run in), its now called Joppa reserve or preserve, can't remember. Vinson's statement is the only source of a non paved area where a car could drive thru wet soil and arrive in the TSBD parking lot shortly after noon. I'm sure there are other's but it is the only statement concerning JFK's murder where a connection can be made on two items, mud and passenger matching Roger Craig's passenger / driver of that Rambler. I suspect if Files fired from where he states and Jackie Kennedy and her husband both had their brains blown out onto Elm St, this country would have come to an abrupt halt and I mean big time because there's no way a bullet on trajectory from 6th floor window can hit the president and turn left and hit her. We are a strange people, we let somebody get away with murder of a man president but I think a slain first lady would pull the pin on civility. Files may have been there but he did not shoot from the right side of the limo with her behind the intended target. If he did then the shadowy bunch we're dealing with are 1000 x more sinister then we thought possible.
I agree and it's too bad the government conspired to let those assassins get away with it and blamed it solely on Oswald. I think Oswald hung around the real gunman in the earlier days and he knew right away they must've killed the President and that he was set up as the decoy or patsy. There were locals who testified Lee Oswald and Jack Ruby knew each other.
Yeah, no friggin way they wouldnt have heard that. The fact that the plaza is so small actually works against multiple shooters. People just cant imagine one guy that was a nutjob being able to do this. The reasons are many that people believe these conspiracies. I think it boils down to our minds need reasons. There must be reasons. It cant just be for simple reasons. Somehow the belief of conspiracy justifies things in those who must have reasons. Sorry folks, sometimes evil folks do evil things and there is no big reveal.
Watch "The men who killed Kennedy." A young serviceman, fresh out of basic training, was in front of the picket fence, and heard a rifle shot coming from the area behind it. He described seeing a suspicious man in the area wearing a badge and a peaked hat. This man was subsequently found in a previously unseen film, and given the name "badge man." When the young serviceman was shown this film, he became very distraught, and said "this...this could be the man that shot the president!"
I was in Dallas that day. I have done much research and seeing this video is creepy. Still haunts me. I think if I would have to drive through this area everyday, I would need to take a different route! Thanks for video though!
Been there!! That overpass is alot closer to the grassy knoll than it looks on all the black and white videos. You could under hand a baseball in to Kennedys car from the knoll
@claytonlee-I was also 7yrs old, and have the same suspicions you do. I guess we'll never know exactly how it was allowed to happen, or who all the players were, although a lot of folks on UA-cam seem to think they do. Regardless, I'll never accept the conclusion of the Warren commission's report, that Oswald acted alone, and maintain that those who actually lived through it should be allowed to have, and express our opinions, without being bullied for it! You know what they say about opinions, like a--holes, everybody has one!
There were 2 signs in 1963 . The one that hid the shot to kennedys neck in the zapruder film was removed years ago . The one sign remaining is the one almost to the underpass bridge .
@@doomgloom8414 Yes, that frontal shot that hit jfk in the throat came on the diagonal from across the 3 streets and grassy knoll areas. The hitter was near but not at the far end of the bridge . He and a facilitator aiding in his escape were located between that rr bridge and the old post office. They were both seen escaping in the nearby lot atop that hill in a vehicle. Other witnesses that were situated near the far end of that Plaza smelling smoke from the gun fire. Jack Rubenstein was also watching the parade and hit from a safer distance; that being near the corner of Houston and Commerce streets. It is not true that Mr. Ruby was sitting in a Dallas newspaper office placing an ad at the time of the hit. He was in Dealey Plaza at the time of 12:30 p.m. Shortly thereafter , witnesses actually saw Ruby at the scene of the nearby parkland hospital. It was there that ruby planted a near pristine bullet on the wrong stretcher in a hospital corridor, right next to a stretcher that had contained the wounded governor Connolly before he was placed in one of the trauma rooms. LHO and Ruby were familiar with each other and had met personally prior to the hit. Nnoly
@@timothyernest6429 what about the smoke witnesses saw drifting over the grassy knoll and is seen in a photograph immediately after the assassination? Also rr worker Sam Holland and three ua-cam.com/video/HEq63vTOwcI/v-deo.html others standing on triple underpass heard a shot from the knoll and saw smoke from there behind the picket fence. At least a dozen people including 2 motorcycle policemen chased the shooter on the knoll as seen in photos and video footage.
Couldn’t pick a worse view of the motorcade from the corner of the picket fence. I’m glad the camera stopped there to give the view. Note, on the Nix film you can see at least three people on the path leading up to the top of the knoll…virtually directly in front of where a shooter was supposed to be. No way
I think i heard this was not the official route to be taken it was changed..Also the route Bobby Kennedy was to leave the stage was changed. There was a video of him being directed to go through the kitchen area...
This video shows exactly why no professional assassin would have chosen to fire a shot from the grassy knoll. First you are firing directly in the direction where everybody is looking. Better to fire from above as the target is moving away from you. If you fire from above and behind the target, the people on the ground are not looking in your direction and they are generally clueless as to the source of the shots. Second, at the time of the assassination there were at least 10 people standing around and in front of the picket fence. Those people are likely to see and hear you. Third, your back was exposed to anyone who walked through the parking lot behind the picket fence. I’m always amazed at how many conspiracy theorists miss these points and somehow think the grassy knoll was an ideal shooting location.
Ok, so you don't think the grassy knoll was a good place for the last shot. What do you think about the last shot coming from the storm drain located at street level slightly to the right of JFK? Please don't say the drain opening is too small because back in 1963 the opening was quite large. Through the passing decades, several layers of asphalt have narrowed the opening to where most people believe the opening is too narrow without considering the opening has been narrowed due to the additional asphalt.
John Davis Yes the storm drain has been proven to have been an impossible place to fire a shot. First, it would have taken a dwarf to fit in there. Second, the dwarf would have had a wide open shot at......the front tires of the limousine. Only morons cling to the crazy notion that somebody fired from the storm drain.
The way you talk, I bet you are on someone's payroll to keep the lie alive well past 2063! It takes a moron to know a moron as you criticize any idea that doesn't fit the one person killing of JFK! No, a person can fit in the storm drain as shown in the many documentaries through the decades! You don't consider frame 313 of Zapruder's film where not only does JFK'S head snap back and to the left, his whole torso along with his right arm is twisted to the rear and left! His right arm flops up, connected to his torso. All of this shows a slight upward movement from a shot below from the storm drain! Of course you'll deny these ideas because you're part of the cover-up!
Yes, I would have thought exactly the same. This is no place to hide away from hundreds of people looking in your direction and a few within easy earshot, too. I'd take the sixth floor every day, in comparison. I still wouldn't describe Lee Harvey Oswald as in any way 'evil', as such, simply one of those misguided young men with a bee in their bonnet. That's all there is to the assassination.
Exactly. Those who say that the shot was fired from the grassy knoll are reasoning in hindsight that the shooter was not seen and therefore it was a good place for a sniper. But you can't reason with hindsight: no sniper in his right mind ( not even disguised as a policeman) have thought to position himself there. And in fact none of the dozens of eyewitnesses, who were physically two or three metres away - and not looking at a video or photos 60 years later - saw anyone.
Such a crummy looking area. Famous grassy knoll is just a lousy parking lot. If I was an assasin I sure wouldn’t stand there holding a rifle while people are coming and going at lunch time.
There was no crossfire. It has been scientifically demonstrated that all three shots came from the book depository. It's also kind of ridiculous that people think that somebody standing there with a long gun mounted to a fence when literally they would've been visible. The snipers perch in the book depository is where everything came from. It's time for the stupid conspiracy theories to stop
@@aigtrader2984 : *Dude, there is no angle from the book depository that can create the blown out wound in the back of Kennedy's head, absolutely impossible. They try to tell you the fatal shot came from the back of the head and existed the right temple from the 6th floor, the angle is humanly impossible since the gun shot is coming from the far right side of the street and president's temple is also on the right side of the street. Common sense is all it takes.*
@@PEN-N-PAL not only is there, it's been scientifically proven over and over again. It's a direct line of sight and has been recreated. People who don't want to understand that he was leaning over with his head to the side just choose to ignore that. But like I said, the proof is in the fact that it can be scientifically recreated.
@@aigtrader2984 : *The people recreating those shots as you claim are claiming nonsense, I've seen every documentary trying to replicate the shooting from the 6th floor of the depository, all they ever focus on is getting the so-called three shots off at the allotted time, professional acoustics have already proving that there four gun shots not three, obviously you're not informed of those analysis results. If the people you're putting your faith in are claiming someone can make a shot from the book depository angle that will go through the back of JFK's head and exist his right temple , they're lying and claiming fiction, it can never be done if we gave them a 100 dummies in a car to prove their idiotic claims. Do me a favor stop talking like you know, Dumb people like you are expected to buy the nonsense that's being put out there to support the single assassin theory, The Angle Is Impossible. PERIOD!*
I used to believe in a possible second shooter. When I actually went to Dealy Plaza, I came away with the feeling that it would be impossible for absolutely nobody to see a second shooter. The area just seemed too intimate. I also followed LHO’s exact footsteps (there is said to be 2 possible routes) from the beginning at the depository to the ending at the Texas theater. I even timed myself. I found the timeline to be completely plausible, and believe that most reasonable people would come to the same conclusion. They won’t be selling me any more books…which I’ve come to believe is the whole idea behind most conspiracy theories. JMO….Peace.
It’s too bad you didn’t take some footage from where Abraham Zapruder was standing that day, like I did when I visited back in ‘92. I had my huge video camera that took VHS tapes. When you stand on the spot Zapruder shot his famous film, it is scary. It’s about 4 feet tall, from the back, but in front it drops about 10-12 feet. It’s no wonder he wanted his secretary to steady him. While standing on the concrete block you can see right over the picket fence. Nowhere to hide. A rifle shot would have made Mr. Zapruder jump, like any normal person. There was no one shooting from the grassy knoll.
Robert Romero, Thanks! I was into the JFK conspiracy practically my whole life, and I’m 54 now. But going to Dealey Plaza was a real eye opener. It still took me about 10 years to finally come around to most simplest explanation.
@@robertromero8692 You are scared to stand up for the truth or your country . So the fbi you help will figure you betrayed your own . They know that you will turn on them way worse . Uou aren't getting briwnie points .
Interesting to see how close to the grassy knoll that the railroad workers were at the time of the shooting. All agreed that there were shots from behind the fence. Of course the Waren Commission ignored them all.
No shots were fired from the picket fence. Zapruder filmed the fence. There were people on the sidewalk. The trajectories don't match. The windshield had a crack from the inside. No cartridge cases were found. There were people standing in front of the fence. The motorcycle officer didn't find anyone there. The Railroad Worker in the tower said there was no one there. President Kennedy's head was at a right angle to the fence. No rifle could have been fired without making an ear splitting noise even with a supressor. They are supressors, not silencers. Why would a picket fence shooter hit the curb near the overpass on the first shot? Conspiracy theorists claim a shot from the front but that ignores the eleven people on the overpass which includes two police officers. No police officer on the overpass believed the shots came from the fence.
@@shooterqqqq In 1970's a cogressional investigation concluded shots came from the fenced in area on the knoll . Mary took photo not showing " people on the sidewalk steps " . The railroad workers on the overpass saw and heard shots and saw gunsmoke come out of the trees . Your story sounds like a bunch of patches on holes in the fbi coverup stories .
Same question as to why you see the fatal shot hit just above Kennedy's right eye on the gory and graphic Z-film frame #313 if the shot came from the rear? And why his body was thrown violently backwards into the seat instead of forward, since the laws of physics and motion were not suddenly repealed on only that day?
That area is so small and exposed that 25 people would have seen and heard anyone firing from the grassy knoll. And so close to where Zapruder and the picket fence were you could have thrown a rock and hit JFK easily. In addition, the Elm Street slope from the TSBD to the Triple Underpass is actually quite a bit steeper in reality, than you would imagine from videos.
@@gerryquinn5578 It figures, people would sell t-shirts there now. Anything for the almighty $. When I was there in 1993 a guy that "certifiably" owned Jack Ruby's gun was trying to sell a bullet fired thru it for $10. Or so he said. Sick fux.
Interesting view at the corner of the picket fence. Besides being waaaaay too exposed (no assassin in their right mind would stand in such a place with public parking behind the fence and bystanders walking around on the grass just feet away who could at anytime wander up to the fence for a better view) but there is a limited window of time when limo would pass the concrete pergola outcrop and the tree. Limo moving left to right and where the shot occurred would be close to right angles to the corner of the picket fence (70-80 degrees) which does not align with the hard evidence nor the Z film.
@@markschroeder738 yes, the fake secret service agent was actually CIA agent Bernard Barker who later was one of the Watergate thieves. He was Cuban born. The CIA was filled with Cubans. Johannides was Cuban as well.
@Bill Keon...In reference to the problem of being exposed on the Knoll....What they teach you in the Special Forces about assassination - If significant cover is not available, you disguise yourself...You want to murder someone and there’s a Military Post nearby...You dress in military uniforms...You want to murder someone in a hospital parking lot...You dress as a doctor...all someone would’ve had to do to assassinate the President from behind the fence is dress as a Dallas cop.The real cops will likely run right by you looking for something suspicious. Gordon Arnold did testify that a man dressed as a policeman came from behind the fence and took a film of the assassination from him. Gordon was standing at the top of the Knoll ..If you’re shooting from a building - say, the Dal-Tex building- you dress as a mailman...if Police storm the building, chances are they will run right by you if they see you carrying a stack of mail in your hand after you’ve broken down the rifle and stuck it in the mailbag....
If and when you ask the government why documents are still being withheld from the public, they say on the grounds of National Security...If everyone was to look beyond that statement and ask - Who is the Enemy?? The conclusion is very evident - It’s the American People... and when you look beyond that statement it’s quite obvious that the United States is no different than a Banana Republic in Central or South America... It makes you wonder about the acronym for MAGA...Is it really Manipulating America’s Gullible Assholes...
@@realistictruckcamping2779 what I'm trying to find out is how it changed over time, ie. The new fence. I know nearly everything got moved since then, ie. The road sign in Z film, curb strike where bullet hit - you know, CRITICAL stuff. DALLAS whether or not involved in the planning of the assassination BEFORE the fact (earle cabell would've been involved in planning the motorcade which was changed to go past book depository where the patsy worked) they were DEFINITELY accessories AFTER the fact with destruction of evidence - that makes questions like mine RELEVANT!
Although Dealey Plaza in Dallas looks much the same as it did back in November 1963, allegedly the City of Dallas a number of years ago moved the lampposts adjacent to the sidewalk that JFK's limousine drove past to slightly different locations and the Stemmons Freeway sign is no longer there, which makes one one wonder if those two things were done to hinder independent researchers in their research or independent reinvestigations of the JFK assassination? And of course, the Hertz Rent- A - Car sign that was atop the former Texas School Book Depository building was removed many years ago.
A few years back, read a book by now-curator Stephen Fagin about how & why the Sixth Floor Museum became a reality; the Committee had requested the Hertz sign to be put inside the museum, but do not know if they were successful in obtaining it.
@@wendylee9779 . I would doubt that the Sixth Floor Museum in the former Texas School Book Depository building has that Hertz sign because that sign was so huge how would they fit it in any area on the sixth floor of that building? The Six Floor Museum sadly is an absolute disgrace because it has no exhibits examining the huge amount of hard as well as circumstantial evidence indicating clearly that the JFK assassination was a conspiracy. As renowned author/researcher Mark Shaw stated in a recent videotaped presentation of the evidence he discovered for his book, "Collateral Damage", the Sixth Floor Museum is nothing more than a distortion of history because it continues to defend the indefensible findings of the Warren Commission. Even the House Select Committee on Assassinations in its' concluding report stated that JFK was assassinated as a result of a probable conspiracy, yet the Sixth Floor Museum disgracefully continues to push the seriously flawed Warren Commission conclusion onto the public!
@@TheMighty412 That's irrelevant. When I look at the Moorman photo and the Nix film -- taken from across the street -- it looks like there is a concrete wall right in front of the fence. Perhaps there isn't -- maybe I'm misinterpreting what I'm seeing in Moorman and Nix. There's no need for the sarcasm.
I believe you're thinking of the concrete wall that's closer to the book depository, before the picket fence. There is a quick shot of it at the beginning of this video.
YOU MISSED IT ... While in the parking lot, had you kept panning the camera toward the right at the tracks you would have seen the RR box (still there today) where the weapons and uniforms were stashed for pickup by the shooters. You went out on the RR crossing, but no shots were fired from the top, only one from below at street level (left side at street level). The shot from the grassy knoll was fired from the left of where you stopped. Your panning graphically illustrates that the Dal Tex Building was the primary shooters nest, not the school book depository. Who were the shooters ? Grassy Knoll = Jim Files ... Underpass = Charley Harrelson ... Dal Tex Building (not revealed). Who was in the school book depository (6th floor) ? At the window = Malcolm Wallace (LBJ's personal assassin), and a man with dark skin. There was a shooter on the other end of the building (South end), however he did not have a shot. What was the Coup Operation Name ? Operation Big Event.
I spent five years working at 501 Elm Street, with my office window overlooking the plaza. I’ve seen a lot of weird stuff but nothing beats the guy who shot his brains out on the “X” one morning. I got to work just as they were cleaning up the scene. BTW, the “X” was never in the same place after road reconstruction/resurfacing.
And if I had a dollar for every absolute moron I saw standing on the “X” for a pic and almost get mowed down by oncoming traffic, I’d have a wallet full of spending money.
My understanding is that Zapruder’s company was on the 5th floor. I never made it up there when I was in the building but, fun fact: I literally ran into Chuck Norris walking out of my building for a smoke break. He was filming an episode of Walker, Texas Ranger and the production company set up craft services and wardrobe in our lobby. Working there was a trip.
I remember walking up to the famous “stockade fence” thinking just over the top lie all the answers to the JFK assanation, then being deflated when I saw it was just a parking lot.
The Right JFK Temple shot COULD have came from a Storm Sewer further head of the Dallas Chief of Police Curry Car before the TURNOFF onto Stemmons Freeway.
I think as you watch the video it becomes quite clear that the grassy knoll was a great place for a 2nd shooter. Odd how the official investigation quickly dismissed this possibility and relegated it to the realm of "conspiracy theorists".
3;33 POINT IN THIS FILM SHOWS APROXIMATELY WHERE THE FIRST SHOT WAS FIRED FROM. THAT BULLET WENT THROUGH THE WINDSHIELD JUST TO THE LEFT OF THE REAR VIEW MIRROR. CONNALLY KNEW IT WAS COMING, AND HAD GOTTEN OUT OF HIS SEAT AND WAS CLINGING TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE CAR TO LEAVE THE PATHWAY FOR THE BULLET THAT CAME THROUGH THE WINDSHIELD AND ENTERED KENNEDY'S THROAT. THE IMPACT OF THAT BULLET LIFTED KENNEDY UP OUT OF HIS SEAT AND THAT WAS WHAT BILL NEWMAN SAW WHEN HE SAID KENNEDY GRABBED HIS THROAT AND STOOD UP IN HIS SEAT BEFORE SLUMPING FORWARD NEWMAN SAID THE LIMOUSINE STOPPED IN FRONT OF HIM WHEN THE SHOT CAME FROM THE GRASSY KNOLL THAT EXPLODED KENNEDY'S HEAD. I WAS DISAPPOINTED HERE IN YOUR FILM THAT YOU DIDN'T SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME FILMING TRAFFIC FRON BEHIND THE FENCE ON THE GRASSY KNOLL, BUT I AM THANKFUL YOU FILMED FROM THE OVERPASS.
The American flag there is always at half mast. Numerous eyewitnesses on Nov. 22 informed police & reporters that shots & gunsmoke had come from the Grassy Knoll. Police ran up there but saw no one. If you walk behind the fence where those shots were reported, look down. There's a manhole. I'm convinced the shooter could have dropped into the manhole & ran away through the drainage system. underground.
But not a single person identified a person at the fence. No one. And there were people standing on the sidewalk, in front of the fence and Zapruder filmed the fence. Smoke coming out of a 1960's parking lot with 1950's and 1960's cars. Gee, what could possibly cause smoke???
All basic elements same as in '63- Most surprising, not knocking white picket fence down but putting chain link along its back- For me. . it's all about that 6th floor window- So many cannot accept the lone assassin but conjure all sorts of theories..Warren got it right..making the fence a moot part of the plaza- Alot of echoes in that small area-
What about the railroad workers on the overpass who all claim they saw the smoke drifting over the picket fence and heard several gunshots from that area?
@@rattycaddy Modern rifles produce VERY little smoke, so little that Oliver Stone had to use FAKE smoke in his movie. It was also very windy that day, so what little smoke there was would have immediately dissipated. The story doesn't hold up.
@Std Disclaimer3. And I interviewed Jim Marrs about this particular subject before he passed away, so please forgive me for completely ignoring you now. It's quite obvious that you're a simple troll who accepts whatever narrative is fed to you and doesn't deviate from it, thinking you're some kind of expert on it because you have memorized the official narrative. Goodbye.
@@orvil9223 I am open to the idea of a second shooter but not from the grassy knoll; had he been hit from there the front right side of his face would have be destroyed or at least have evidence of an entry wound, but his face was fine judging by the autopsy photos, whereas the back of his head was destroyed meaning he was hit from the back. If there was a second shooter I suggest he was on the roof or a high floor of the Elm Place building which is adjacent to the school book depository.
I want to a Super Bowl as part of the Sport’s Media. I was from the generation that witnessed the effect of the JFK tragedy , including Oswald being being shot live. I felt very bad every time I passed by Daly Plaza !
At the end at 4:02 might be where a shooter fired at kennedy and hit the cement square with a round metal manhole lid beside the lower elm street branch and near where the fatal shot hit kennedy . A bullet hit the cement curb and went into the grass lifting the sod in a straight line and the bulket was dug out by a policeman in a suit later with a woman talking to him . The policeman picked up the bullet from the grass i think and put it in his pocket while being photographed . He died later along with 58 other witnesses who did not agree with records of them testifying a shot came from a window . Hundreds of people within a minute or so of the assasination were at the grassy knoll where they heard and saw and reported the shots came from . They were killed by the oeople who killed kennedy . They are the fbi and cia and assorted crooks .
Nice footage Donny. I walked all around there too, hoping to find some missing evidence I guess. You can go in the school book depository for a tour as well. When I looked out of that supposed window, you can't imagine 1 guy firing shots at a curving road below. But if you look 4 buildings to the right, this building has a straight look down Elm street which would account for the shot into John Connally. Not to mention the CIA likes to say "Oh, Look over here", when the real action is right over there. RIP-JFK
I knew Henry B. Gonzales , He was JFK Southwest election rep. He was in the car in back of LBJ the congessmen car . He told me that they had turned onto Elm when He heard 3 shots ? what he saw was 11 bullet strikes . They must have used suppressors on the 1891 Mausers sports . They were mod. to fire 30-06 shells and between the FBI and DPD picked up 5 bullets ? Never to be seen of or heard of again. There was a gun shop that had them in a garbage can with a sign 25$ . No ID No ? . They almost looked like the Carcano . Watch the finding Oswalds rifle film . Day is using a mag. glass on it . On Sunday the DPD did a reenactment of the finding the rifle film . What they hold up in the hall way was a Carcano , but this is after Buddy Walthers got back from Ruths house. There is all kind of mysteries like just how many wallets did Buddy find . He found one in a jacket under a car , he found one at Tippet murder scene , He pulled one out of Oswalds pocket in the back of the squad car. Something aint up and up on this stuff ?
@@jimmywilkinson9190 Wow, I hadn't heard any of this before. Thank you for sharing something new for me to explore. I heard the LBJ & Hoover recordings. It all makes me sick to my stomach, but we should always be aware of how far ego driven freaks will go to steal power.
@@robertromero8692 It would be who you listen to . The W.C. or eye witnesses. Remember what them said ---- We have to make the American Public ????????
Psst,go check out the storm drain right next to where he got shot,and then watch the NIX FILM in slow motion the timing works perfectly,the motorcycle cops even stop and look at the storm drain.BANG
I live in Dallas and I’ve been to this place several times. Amazing how it’s all preserved exactly as it was back in 1963
I heard the other day Dallas wanted to renovate Dealy Plaza. Why not, they've lied about so much history.
Thanks for the feedback, I was wondering if it was the same in 1963.
Definitely the 'grassy knoll' was a great place (the most discrete place) for a 2nd shooter.
@@johnmorelli3775 It was a "turkey shoot".
Hi
It’s not exactly the same as 63.
There have been a few changes to it. Route of traffic changed.
Paved areas now. Trees and signs different. Etc.
Metal fencing around picket fence. ( idiots keep stealing wood pockets )
I don’t know why, a shooter was never there Oswald alone )
@@Fernando-qk2hp lol, Oswald didn't act at all.
This is BY FAR, the best video I have seen of the grassy knoll and the area that was also in question after the assassination.
Dealy Plaza.. The most haunting place in existence and has changed very little since '63.
The most haunting? You need to get out more.
I was there once and it was surreal, way smaller than I expected
It does seem like that horrific event still lingers, so horrible
Very daunting, haunting, surreal experience. In this small corner of the world US history was changed forever, our society as we know it hasn’t been the same since
Consider that what was perceived to be the American Dream in the early 60's was just a perception. The assasination itself proves that. Just another banana republic.
Deadly Plaza?
Went to Dallas 7 weeks ago and covered every square inch of Dealey Plaza. The place is surreal
Just to think what happened there and how the world changed after.....horrific
I was 14 when President Kennedy was killed & my life changed from that day on. Marty M, I believe it’s surreal - & honestly believe I could never walk along Dealey Plaza. It just would be too awful & very sad, even 58 years later.
@@wendylee9779I was also 14 when this happened but visited Dealey Plaza in July 2000.
Thank you for a virtual tour for those who have not had the chance to visit this historically mysterious place....still wonder who was / were standing there on the fatal day !
That gave me the best sense of being there that I've ever gotten in all the hundreds of still and motion picture shots I seen.
I'll never forget that day. It was a Friday. They sent us home early from school. When I got home my mother was crying in front of the TV.
Visited in the late 90s. I was stunned by how small the area is. It seems that anyone there that day would have had no problem recognizing the direction the sound of rifle fire came from.
I think Frontline, or some other news show, did acoustical tests regarding how loud echoes would be at Dealey Plaza and from where those echoes would come from if firing a rifle from the School Book Depository. If I'm recalling correctly, a rifle shot from the Depository would echo from the area of the grassy knoll with 80% the volume of the sound of the original shot. So, it might explain why people thought they heard a shot from the grassy knoll. Just a theory. I'm not trying to get into a heated debate with anyone. Anyway, I visited Dealey Plaza four years ago and was also stunned by how small the area was compared to what I thought it would be, after seeing it so many times in movies and news shows.
@@thehighllama8101
It is 1000 feet from the bridge to the fountain on houston .
All those buildings echoed….. but about 80 people said from behind the fence
@@thehighllama8101 If you'd been one of those folk who were closer to the GK than the TSBD, I'm positive you would have heard the original sound of a shot from the GK before the echo of a shot from the TSBD, due to the speed at which sounds travels.
There's no doubt that echoes off solid structures CAN be disorientating, as to the origin of the sound. Yet, despite that caveat, it's been conclusively established that there were plenty more than three shots fired, from at least two locations, including the TSBD and the GK.
I think it's extremely telling that so many (dozens!) who reported shots from the GK were not called by the Warren Commission, or even properly interviewed by the Dallas police.
We all know we've been lied to about that tragic day for the world.
The whole world knows it wasn't Oswald.
What a small area from looking at this , I really thought it was much bigger , much more area than I thought from the Zapruder film . The geometry has everything to do with the possibilities . Thanks for this
Having been there I can tell you that is one of the strangest things that you notice when you get to Dealy Plaza, just how small it is.
@@aigtrader2984 so true, is really an small area.
its small and the shots were made from a short distance
@@jaysilverheals4445 About the assassination's, everything is dark and maybe we never going to know the whole true but lets think on this for a moment, 1 lonely guy bought a gun and decided to kill the most powerful men on earth, really that's the true?
@@jaysilverheals4445 Really? Did you measure the distance the bullet(s) traveled?
I give Dallas credit for preserving Dealy Plaza, TSBD, picket fence, highways, triple overpass, even X's in the street where Kennedy was struck. Alot of cities would have erased these reminders of such a tragic day. But in Dallas it's all still there, like a time capsule from sixty years ago. And it let's everybody visit and reconstruct it and make up their own minds about what happened.
Historical Society raised heck but Dallas tried to change a lot more
Well they did move signs, sometime after the initial investigation was over in 1964. They were gone by 1967
@@aigtrader2984 They certainly did move signs. Mysteriously enough, while they were still investigating the assassination.
@@Perrosiutico as usual with most conspiracy theorist, you are wrong and the facts prove it. Attached to the bottom of this is a video of Dealey Plaza from 1935 through 2015. Isn't the Internet a great thing? On May 24, 1964 there are pictures that clearly show the sign still there. Do you know what else is there? All the investigators investigating the assassination. I don't trust "baloney" or make wild claims, I back it up with actual evidence:
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@@Perrosiutico That's because there were bullet holes in them. Doesn't fly with the narrative.
Great video! You were standing in the footsteps that changed history. The bullet replaced the ballot.
Well it's a matter of contention that JFK won that election in the first place...but not enough space to get into it here.
Now the copy machine has replaced the ballot.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally, someone got the perspective of the South Grassy Knoll!
this remains fascinating.. It appears to be unchanged in its layout since the early 1960s.. well done, indeed…I can’t help but wonder if all the people who regularly drive this route can ever NOT think about where they are and why this place is so historic and important.
The details are very different nearly 60 years later. The chain link fence behind the picket fence was added since I was there last in 1998. The parking lot behind the knoll has been paved; it was just dirt when I was a kid in 1963. The signage is different. But the main shape of the streets, grounds and pergola remains the same. Many people remark on how much smaller it is than they had imagined. Since I grew up in Dallas and was 15 at the time of the assassination I don't experience that. After all these years I do look at it and realize what a perfect location it was for an ambush.
And a perfect location when a single person with a rifle can overlook the roadway down below.
I was there just behind the fence at the corner, a few years ago, where anyone could be safely hidden for a shot (or more), with even a 2x scope, it would be as easy as pie. No doubt someone was right there firing a rifle that could be assembled or dissembled quickly, do the shot(s), pick up the shells, and make a fast getaway from a car in the parking lot right behind. Numerous witnesses saw smoke rising from there, and ran to that small area, as films showed right afterwards. If that doesn't prove a shots (probably the fatal one) came from there, nothing will.
What I find really interesting is that Dallas County uses the School Book Depository as office space, except for the sixth and seventh floors. Working there everyday, at a regular office job, would be surreal, at least for the first few days or weeks.
@@hiataki7 Yes...and Oswald did just that...a huge failure of the Secret Service that day!
@@freeguy77 Nope...all the real evidence points to the TBD, and Oswald!
Wow! Incredible how accessible that area is today even. Such a vantage point, with cover, viable escape routes etc. It’s hard to believe the secret service weren’t complicit, with so many infractions of their protocols. But who would willingly put themselves in a vehicle you knew was going to be fired upon.
if it were so, it would most likely have been the head of the secret service of that detail in Dallas. The others were probably told to do certain things but not told why. This would give them cover plausible deniability.
You do realize 2 secret service agents WERE in the car, right?
@@franclin0 The front seat. I didn't say the Secret Service was involved. There is no evidence of that. The broken protocols will always cast some shadow of suspicion their way, though.
@@bobingalls4643 I was responding to the original commenter, not you.
I give you credit,the person who made this film,awsome,thank you very much.
Great video. It really puts it all together for me. I never realized you get to all those places from the grassy knoll area.
Probably millions of people have driven through Dealy Plaza before November 22nd, 1963 , and millions more after that day...Only one was NOT able to do it successfully in the short distance between the School Book Depository and the overpass. RIP Mr. Kennedy...God knows the truth of whatever happened that terrible day.
Oswald assassinated JFK. I promise you that you'll NEVER SEE proof of anyone else pulling the trigger.
Mr Kennedy wasn't driving.
when I was there back in 2008. I was praying and asked Jesus what happened that day, you know all things. I heard Jesus speak to me, like in a audible voice, and He said: I could not protect him" and I knew immediately why.
There is no god.
@@formermpc10 The Bible says: The fool in his heart, says there is No GOD!
This viddy puts a missing perspective on the location for me. From all the photos and movies from that horrible day, I was left with a choppy sense of what was where. Thanks for sharing your video tour of the area!
Thanks for sharing. Looks different than I expected. Hope to go there.
VERY well done, Donny. Thank you. Yes, 'agree with so many others how accessible and how well preserved all of that area still is. I guess that concrete platform with the steps is what Zapruder stood on when he took the home movies. It's hard to argue against beliefs that it was James Files that pulled the trigger on his Remington Fireball from up on the knoll if you've watched his interview from the Joliet State Prison, years ago.
The steps and a white cement wall about 2 or 3 feet tall is between the fence and the more raised cement zapruder was on .
Was definitely not files hes a story teller. Said he put the shell casing on the picked Fence after he took the shot.There were hundreds of people there within minutes .one being sam Hollend a railway worker who checked the fence with his 3 co workers because they saw smoke coming out under the trees on the knoll .they were stood on the overpass. They found nothing and neither did anyone else. Filds says he took the shot looked for the caseing on the floor picked it up and bit it with his teeth and put it on the fence. This is all when he just shot the president and people were running up the knoll.Totall rubbish.
Hes a fantasist.
It's a georographical location where not just a man died, but a whole nation too.
The end of decency & innocence.
Thank you for this video. Mr. Harriman, you’re so right about not only our nation died, but many, many other countries cried & mourned as well.
@@arricammarques1955 Well...The Kennedy family was fraught with indecency in many ways...JFK showed promise as a good leader, but our society has elevated him, due to his brutal death...but as the 1960s unraveled, so did the notion that we were an innocent society!
@@curbozerboomer1773 surprise surprise the kennedys are just like any other family with its problems.
JFK did what he could. Perhaps not as perfect as you.
I didn’t know the whole America died
Fascinating. Saw it in 1971, when I was there. Read, long back, that at one time, the School Book Depository building was to be razed, but it was stopped. By whom, I don't remember.
Not positive, but I believe it was the then mayor, Wes Wise.
"In Dealey Plaza, it will always be November 22, 1963."
I was there almost that same day (Nov. 22) a few years ago for a conference about JFK's murder. Most people have believed it was a conspiracy ever since the first Gallup Poll on the question was first answered in late-Nov. '63, continuing with a huge majority rejecting the government WC narrative through the 2013 poll, the 50th anniversary. The government's own HSCA (House Select Committee on Assassinations (JFK, RFK, and MLK Jr, 1977-79) announced its finding that "Kennedy was probably killed by a conspiracy." Therefore, the 1964 Warren Commission Report saying only Oswald did it was completely debunked by 1979!
@@freeguy77 exactly!
Well said!
To me, three things rule out any shooter from this position: The angle is all wrong, as a frontal shot would have had to exit Kennedy's left side, which was completely undamaged; people on the overpass, who some thought they saw smoke at this location, arrived within seconds and found nothing besides some footprints, which could have been left there anytime; but most importantly any shot from this angle would have absolutely confirmed a conspiracy (since Connally's wounds especially are impossible to explain from any grassy knoll location), something one would think any conspirators would be trying their hardest to avoid. Yes, everything is so small at Dealey Plaza, but it's still a great place to apply Occam's Razor and a little common sense. Thanks for posting.
So nice to read common sense, logically thought out and well researched explanations. So refreshing! Cheers!
Thank you for putting this video.
President Kennedy was a great friend of India. Kennedy cared a lot about India.
This video takes us to places in dealey plaza that are usually never discussed or thought of.
The asphalt in the parking lot runs all the way to the picket fences.
The railroad guy watching JFK's motorcade said, he saw the shots coming from the grassy knoll, behind the picket fences and ran there, but he could not find the shooter, only foot prints in the mud behind the fences.
@stddisclaimer8020 This?
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The railway guys didn't say they was shots. They say they saw smoke.
Yes, when they got behind the picket fence, they found foot prints...and cigarette butts.
Hmmmm
Multiple shooters for shore the amount of vantage points is incredible
The grassy knoll actually looks like a small place, thanks to this video. Most of the video footage from 22 Nov 1963 makes it appear like a large place. Now I think that the eyewitnesses who saw the smoke and heard the shots from the Knoll, would have actually even been able to even see the shooters up close.
Zapruder was filming on the grassy knoll and he filmed the corner of the picket fence. The railroad employee didn't see anyone on the parking lot side of the fence but he did see two people on the street side of the fence. One was the plaza groundskeeper. That makes it impossible to shoot from the Grassy Knoll. There were also a couple of people standing on the sidewalk between the fence and the street. There were two police officers on the overpass and they chase away spectators as ordered. Then about six railroad workers on their lunch break showed up and they successfully argued the officers were on railroad property and they had every right to be there. That makes any shot from the front impossible. Three people watched Oswald kill Kennedy. RoseMary Willis is on the Zapruder film as she watches.
@@shooterqqqq No that's not true. The majority of witnesses, including those in front of The TSBD heard shots from the front. The Z Film clearly shows JFK shot from the right front. The Doctors first reports describe an avulsive wound in the rear of the head.
@@vernpascal1531 Any shot from the front or sides is impossible. Autopsy shows a 6.5 millimeter hole in the back of the head and it was cratered. The bullet was found in two pieces. One on the front seat and the other on the floor. There was a crack on the inside of the windshield and a dent near the mirror. Do some research.
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No bullets make a small hole on one side going in and then flattens and bends and makes a big hole going out . The motorcycle cop behind the left side of the kennedy limousine was splattered with kennedys brains so bad he thought he must have been shot himself as it was happening . The headshot came from around the corner of the fence .. The secret service when alone with kennedys body tried to cut the forehead of kennedy with a pocket knife or something to try to make it appear to be an exit wound . But only made crude x - shaped cuts making it obviously a juvenile attempt at fooling the hospitals full of doctors .
@@shooterqqqq No one under th age of 40 bothers to read anymore!
Thanks for going to the SW end of the triple underpass. Several logical positions the shot through the windshield into JFK's throat may have originated. And the head shot as well.
There was NO shot through the windshield. Don't you think at this angle the shooter would've been seen by hundreds of people?! There were cops there too you know!
@@franclin0 : Just St saying it isn't so doesn't make it not so. Where do you think everyone was looking. No one had any reason to be looking at the Terminal Annex parking lot when noises were elsewhere, the motorcade was opposite, it was the perfect vantage point for ease of escape as well, whereas access to behind the knoll after the shots was accessed almost instantly. No one ran down to search the SW parking lot, (and if a dirty cop was in on it, standing guard, why would he do anything like that?) and as a man on the roof on the Postal Building told Mark Lane, the guy behind the fence ran away, probably right after the first shot, that more than likely missed the limo completely, hitting the street at the corner of Elm and Houston.
Shots were fired from behind also towards the rear side of the limousine, and that drew attention diametrically opposite from the SW knoll.
If you wish, I'll leave links for you to read or watch explaining the reasoning. Let me know.
@@rogerscottcathey so based on your theory, the shooter fired North or Northeast from the Terminal Annex building lot at the limo that was facing South West. The shooter miraculously missed all the spectators that were standing between him and the limo.. The bullet hit the windshield and took an immediate hard right to hit the president in the back seat?? That's some magic bullet YOU got there! You know what would've been so much easier? Oswald shooting the president from above and immediately behind. Which he did.
Edit - also you've based this ridiculous theory on the idea that there was a bullet hole in the windshield, which there was NOT. Fact check it, the info is out there and it's just as easy to find as that conspiracy crap.
@@franclin0 : All what spectators standing between JFK and a SW shooter? You're obviously confused and disinterested in any links I offered to inform you as to the basis of my thinking. And you also obviously think by mockery and rude, demeaning writing you can somehow win an argument or debate. I grew up in a large family, and debate was encouraged, civilly, politely and maturely. If that doesn't suit you, conversation is over.
@@rogerscottcathey look at a google map of Dealey Plaza including the Annex building. Look at the satellite view. Look at the space between the parking lot of the Annex building and the X in the road where JFK was hit from the 2nd shot. In that space is Commerce St and Main St in between the 2 grass fields of Dealey. They both had spectators. You're saying a bullet traveled all that distance, missed all of the spectators, went through the windshield of the limo, missed the driver, missed Governor and Mrs. Connally, took a right turn and hit JFK in the throat? That's your theory? And tit for tat my friend, I have no issue checking out your links, but would you be willing to check out information that contradicts the windshield "hole"?
This is what happened that morning of November 22, 1963 in Dallas and the Zapruder video speaks very clearly. The presidential limousine takes Elm Street and after a few meters the first shot fired by Nicoletti starts who, together with Rosselli, was hidden in the Dal Tex Building. The first bullet misses its target and hits the sidewalk of the triple rail crossing at the end of the square and a splinter ends up in the face of James Tague, a passerby who was standing there. The second bullet hits Kennedy in the throat, and as you can see in the footage, the president puts his hands around his neck and Governor Connally turns back to understand what happened. The third bullet misses and ends up on the lawn where it is later found by an FBI man and Deputy Buddy Walthers. The fourth bullet hits Connally who emits a grimace of pain as seen in the video and brings his right hand to his stomach because he accuses an immediate pain and then the bullet pierces his right wrist and plants itself in the thigh of his left leg. The fifth bullet hits Kennedy in the back of the head and the sixth bullet, fired by James Files hiding on the grassy knoll half a second after the fifth shot, shoots both Kennedy's blood and head back, and the brain leaking was due to pressure. of the sixth bullet that had left an apple-sized hole behind Kennedy's head, as evidenced by photos of 14 people bringing their hands to the same spot on their heads. I say with certainty that the bullets were 6 because it seems that a shot was fired about every three seconds, that is the time to reload the rifle. Returning to Connally, which is the key to clarifying the mystery well, there is a lot to say. 1) First of all, from the angle in which Oswald would have found himself firing, which was about 45 degrees, only Kennedy would have been hit and no one else, the bullet could not in any way make a deviation and then hit the governor. 2) When Kennedy is shot Connally turns around to see what happens and stays there for about three seconds, the time to reload the shot in the rifle; if the governor had been hit by the magic bullet, at the same time as the president, he would have had the same reaction as Kennedy and would have neither the way nor the strength to look back. 3) The governor Connally when he is wounded is still turned and you see a grimace of pain as I mentioned before him and then turn forward again and collapse on his wife's legs. 4) In the video you can see how Connally bumps his head in front of the glass that separates him from the driver's and assistant's seats. 5) Do you know why Connally was hit? Both because Kennedy threw himself on his wife's right shoulder, because bending over did not hinder the trajectory of the fourth bullet that almost grazed him hitting the governor, and because the shot was fired by Nicoletti from the window of the Dal Tex Building and reached the governor, because Kennedy was leaning towards his wife. So, not only does the first missile reveal where the shot really came from, but also what hit Connally. Indisputable and real evidence, but unfortunately denied by many, including the Warren commission which veiled so much evidence.
you have it right on the money!
James Files makes an interesting statement about two shots being fired almost instantly together. The #1 most credible witnesses to the condition of the President's body are the attending physician's. That gaping hole in the back of the skull is an exit wound. That flap in front of the president's right ear in Zapruder film is exit wound. Two hits, both hiding impact angles. With the rear of the skull blown out by second shot, it eliminates evidence of entrance of 1st shot. The exit hole of the 1st shot eliminates evidence of entry of 2nd shot. Only thing about Files firing from his reported angle is it brings Mrs. Kennedy into the sight picture. Plus the exit wound would have been opposite the skull from where it is, no? In this video, i'm glad to see he captured the storm drain and its removable grates in the far west corner of the parking lot. We have to go with what the photo's show us and they show a host of people and one Dallas police officer running to that spot or within 10 feet of it. They were ear witnesses and their actions mean something. Also the reaction of Charles and Beatrice. Once he put her on the ground you can see him get up and immediately walk and look out the back of the monument wall towards the parking lot. There was obviously something going on along the north side of Elm at other locations than the TSBD, A researcher who passed away recent, believed two shooters were in the furthermost shelter right behind Zapruder and his secretary. Only thing about that is Charles and Beatrice Hester had a birds eye view inside from where they were. They reported nothing. Daltex bldg, a possibility, records bldg also. The planners would have taken every precaution to make sure this target does not leave this site with sustainable wounds. JFK and Mrs. Kennedy already had Camelot status and a maimed, crippled president, commander in chief was not gonna happen. If that limo disappears beneath that RR underpass with him still alive then its gonna be a sh*t storm of unimaginable proportion. Two things. Somewhere along that route on Elm St was someone calling the shots. A curb coroner of sorts. That person would have to be visible to the last resort shooter. You would place that final gun as far down towards the RR underpass as possible. The target would be approaching his position and would put the target at about a 1 to 2 O'clock position in relation to the muzzle. Perfect match to the exit wound to back of skull. If you notice the presidents head prior to that shot is leaning slightly forward and he's facing left just a bit, bullet hits in exit wound of shot previously fired and takes out right rear of skull. They did not want to take that shot because it adds a big problem to all shots fired from other end of Elm, TSBD but they had no choice. The shot to back, to throat or whatever, the Zapruder film shows the President was still somewhat in control of his faculties, still alive and with a hospital nearby he most likely would have recovered. Someone activated that last shooter, someone close enough along that route to determine it was absolutely needed. Someone very close to the curb. The only place down at that end of the fence / parking lot where a shooter could be concealed is that storm inlet. A car parked on top perhaps to conceal it even more. Those witnesses ran there for a reason I believe. We have to stick with what was there, the closest witnesses at different locations. Behind the fence is non other than Lee Bowers, our ultimate witness. The RR workers on top the overpass, The Hesters and their reaction immediately following the shots. Back to Lee Bowers, do you recall him describing 3 cars entering the sealed off parking lot around 12:10 pm? He describes fresh mud on one all the way up the sides of the car. Well it rained till 8 or 9 am and all night and Dallas had paved roads so do we have a source for where the car drove thru mud after the rain? Had to be after or the rain would have rinsed the car somewhat. He said it looked fresh. Well I'll turn your attention to a witness whom came forward some years later. Sergeant Vinson, USAF. Hopped a flight out of Andrews trying to get home to Colorado, just him and the two pilots. Tail emblem on aircraft appeared to be a Globe with grid lines. Some 3 or 3 !/2 hours into flight the pilot announced the President had been shot, plane banked hard and Vinson recognized the Dallas Fort Worth skyline. Plane approached from the north and flew southeast over the city where he says it landed on what appeared to be an unpaved area, a place under construction with a tool shed, stated plane kicked up dust. Took on two passengers, one matched Roger Craig's dark man and the green Rambler in front of TSBD. Sergeant Vinson stated he could see the Trinity river and the Dallas skyline to his north. There is such a place, no houses, near Oak Cliff (Tippit & Oswald's run in), its now called Joppa reserve or preserve, can't remember. Vinson's statement is the only source of a non paved area where a car could drive thru wet soil and arrive in the TSBD parking lot shortly after noon. I'm sure there are other's but it is the only statement concerning JFK's murder where a connection can be made on two items, mud and passenger matching Roger Craig's passenger / driver of that Rambler. I suspect if Files fired from where he states and Jackie Kennedy and her husband both had their brains blown out onto Elm St, this country would have come to an abrupt halt and I mean big time because there's no way a bullet on trajectory from 6th floor window can hit the president and turn left and hit her. We are a strange people, we let somebody get away with murder of a man president but I think a slain first lady would pull the pin on civility. Files may have been there but he did not shoot from the right side of the limo with her behind the intended target. If he did then the shadowy bunch we're dealing with are 1000 x more sinister then we thought possible.
Thank you for the detailed analysis & I agree.
@@BHeisler59 ...good information.
I agree and it's too bad the government conspired to let those assassins get away with it and blamed it solely on Oswald. I think Oswald hung around the real gunman in the earlier days and he knew right away they must've killed the President and that he was set up as the decoy or patsy. There were locals who testified Lee Oswald and Jack Ruby knew each other.
at 0:40 you can see the steps 3 men were standing on when the fatal shot hit and they didn't hear a rifle being fired from that close
Yeah, no friggin way they wouldnt have heard that.
The fact that the plaza is so small actually works against multiple shooters.
People just cant imagine one guy that was a nutjob being able to do this. The reasons are many that people believe these conspiracies. I think it boils down to our minds need reasons. There must be reasons. It cant just be for simple reasons.
Somehow the belief of conspiracy justifies things in those who must have reasons.
Sorry folks, sometimes evil folks do evil things and there is no big reveal.
No men were seen on the steps in Mary's photo of the headshot .
@@gregorydahl Please direct me to that because you are WRONG and only seeing what you WANT to see (or NOT see)
which photo are you talking about?
There were 3 men, but the 2 standing together, were never identified or found later
Watch "The men who killed Kennedy." A young serviceman, fresh out of basic training, was in front of the picket fence, and heard a rifle shot coming from the area behind it. He described seeing a suspicious man in the area wearing a badge and a peaked hat. This man was subsequently found in a previously unseen film, and given the name "badge man." When the young serviceman was shown this film, he became very distraught, and said "this...this could be the man that shot the president!"
Nicely shot ;)
I was in Dallas that day. I have done much research and seeing this video is creepy. Still haunts me. I think if I would have to drive through this area everyday, I would need to take a different route! Thanks for video though!
I think the headshot came from the other side of the bridge at the end of this video.
Excellent and very revealing....long overdue .
1:33 Hey there's the sewer the guy escaped through that we've heard so much about. The Grassy Knoll shooter must have been Harry Earles, LOL.
Vincenzo …. this is exactly my position on the shots …idk about six , but the Dal Tex and grassy knoll shots make slit of sense
Been there!! That overpass is alot closer to the grassy knoll than it looks on all the black and white videos. You could under hand a baseball in to Kennedys car from the knoll
I was 7 when that happened and i didn't believe it then and still don't believe Oswald was the only shooter.
@claytonlee-I was also 7yrs old, and have the same suspicions you do. I guess we'll never know exactly how it was allowed to happen, or who all the players were, although a lot of folks on UA-cam seem to think they do. Regardless, I'll never accept the conclusion of the Warren commission's report, that Oswald acted alone, and maintain that those who actually lived through it should be allowed to have, and express our opinions, without being bullied for it! You know what they say about opinions, like a--holes, everybody has one!
I'm glad you walked to the left front. and focused a bit to and from there
All these years and I had no idea the triple over pass was a railroad bridge. Appreciate the views & video.
Never really seen it like this, Thank you
The place that changes my entire life but I had no idea at the time it would!
Amazing that the picket fence is still there in pretty good shape. I would have thought that vandals would have destroyed it by now.
Pretty sure the fence has been replaced multiple times through the years.
It looks like the sign that hid the first bullets impact is still there. Amazing to see the walk around.
There were 2 signs in 1963 .
The one that hid the shot to kennedys neck in the zapruder film was removed years ago . The one sign remaining is the one almost to the underpass bridge .
The Stemmons freeway sign is removed.
4:00 there’s the final head-shot
So few ever bother to show this area and still gravitate towards that ‘picket fence ‘ like sheep.
They "gravitate" to the picket fence area because that's where shots were heard from... The sheep are the people that believe Oswald acted alone!
No, not the final head shot necessarily but rather the throat shot.
@@timothyernest6429 you think the throat shot came from the opposite side of the grassy knoll?
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Yes, that frontal shot that hit jfk in the throat came on the diagonal from across the 3 streets and grassy knoll areas. The hitter was near but not at the far end of the bridge . He and a facilitator aiding in his escape were located between that rr bridge and the old post office. They were both seen escaping in the nearby lot atop that hill in a vehicle. Other witnesses
that were situated near the far end of that Plaza smelling smoke from the gun fire. Jack Rubenstein was also watching the parade and hit from a safer distance; that being near the corner of Houston and Commerce streets. It is not true that Mr. Ruby was sitting in a Dallas newspaper office placing an ad at the time of the hit. He was in Dealey Plaza at the time of 12:30 p.m.
Shortly thereafter , witnesses actually saw Ruby at the scene of the nearby parkland hospital. It was there that ruby planted a near pristine bullet on the wrong stretcher in a hospital corridor, right next to a stretcher that had contained the wounded governor Connolly before he was placed in one of the trauma rooms. LHO and Ruby were familiar with each other and had met personally prior to the hit.
Nnoly
@@timothyernest6429 what about the smoke witnesses saw drifting over the grassy knoll and is seen in a photograph immediately after the assassination? Also rr worker Sam Holland and three ua-cam.com/video/HEq63vTOwcI/v-deo.html others standing on triple underpass heard a shot from the knoll and saw smoke from there behind the picket fence. At least a dozen people including 2 motorcycle policemen chased the shooter on the knoll as seen in photos and video footage.
Couldn’t pick a worse view of the motorcade from the corner of the picket fence. I’m glad the camera stopped there to give the view. Note, on the Nix film you can see at least three people on the path leading up to the top of the knoll…virtually directly in front of where a shooter was supposed to be. No way
I think i heard this was not the official route to be taken it was changed..Also the route Bobby Kennedy was to leave the stage was changed. There was a video of him being directed to go through the kitchen area...
It’s mind boggling that such a monumental event took place in such a small place
A coup was carried out here that day.
This video shows exactly why no professional assassin would have chosen to fire a shot from the grassy knoll. First you are firing directly in the direction where everybody is looking. Better to fire from above as the target is moving away from you. If you fire from above and behind the target, the people on the ground are not looking in your direction and they are generally clueless as to the source of the shots. Second, at the time of the assassination there were at least 10 people standing around and in front of the picket fence. Those people are likely to see and hear you. Third, your back was exposed to anyone who walked through the parking lot behind the picket fence. I’m always amazed at how many conspiracy theorists miss these points and somehow think the grassy knoll was an ideal shooting location.
Ok, so you don't think the grassy knoll was a good place for the last shot. What do you think about the last shot coming from the storm drain located at street level slightly to the right of JFK?
Please don't say the drain opening is too small because back in 1963 the opening was quite large. Through the passing decades, several layers of asphalt have narrowed the opening to where most people believe the opening is too narrow without considering the opening has been narrowed due to the additional asphalt.
John Davis Yes the storm drain has been proven to have been an impossible place to fire a shot. First, it would have taken a dwarf to fit in there. Second, the dwarf would have had a wide open shot at......the front tires of the limousine. Only morons cling to the crazy notion that somebody fired from the storm drain.
The way you talk, I bet you are on someone's payroll to keep the lie alive well past 2063!
It takes a moron to know a moron as you criticize any idea that doesn't fit the one person killing of JFK!
No, a person can fit in the storm drain as shown in the many documentaries through the decades! You don't consider frame 313 of Zapruder's film where not only does JFK'S head snap back and to the left, his whole torso along with his right arm is twisted to the rear and left! His right arm flops up, connected to his torso. All of this shows a slight upward movement from a shot below from the storm drain! Of course you'll deny these ideas because you're part of the cover-up!
Yes, I would have thought exactly the same. This is no place to hide away from hundreds of people looking in your direction and a few within easy earshot, too. I'd take the sixth floor every day, in comparison. I still wouldn't describe Lee Harvey Oswald as in any way 'evil', as such, simply one of those misguided young men with a bee in their bonnet. That's all there is to the assassination.
Exactly. Those who say that the shot was fired from the grassy knoll are reasoning in hindsight that the shooter was not seen and therefore it was a good place for a sniper.
But you can't reason with hindsight: no sniper in his right mind ( not even disguised as a policeman) have thought to position himself there. And in fact none of the dozens of eyewitnesses, who were physically two or three metres away - and not looking at a video or photos 60 years later - saw anyone.
I was there personally.you have a clear shot.
Such a crummy looking area. Famous grassy knoll is just a lousy parking lot. If I was an assasin I sure wouldn’t stand there holding a rifle while people are coming and going at lunch time.
First time I've seen the "grassy knoll" up close. JFK drove right into a crossfire! If one didn't get him...the others would! Thanks for posting!!!
There was no crossfire. It has been scientifically demonstrated that all three shots came from the book depository. It's also kind of ridiculous that people think that somebody standing there with a long gun mounted to a fence when literally they would've been visible. The snipers perch in the book depository is where everything came from. It's time for the stupid conspiracy theories to stop
@@aigtrader2984 :
*Dude, there is no angle from the book depository that can create the blown out wound in the back of Kennedy's head, absolutely impossible. They try to tell you the fatal shot came from the back of the head and existed the right temple from the 6th floor, the angle is humanly impossible since the gun shot is coming from the far right side of the street and president's temple is also on the right side of the street. Common sense is all it takes.*
@@PEN-N-PAL not only is there, it's been scientifically proven over and over again. It's a direct line of sight and has been recreated. People who don't want to understand that he was leaning over with his head to the side just choose to ignore that. But like I said, the proof is in the fact that it can be scientifically recreated.
@@aigtrader2984 :
*The people recreating those shots as you claim are claiming nonsense, I've seen every documentary trying to replicate the shooting from the 6th floor of the depository, all they ever focus on is getting the so-called three shots off at the allotted time, professional acoustics have already proving that there four gun shots not three, obviously you're not informed of those analysis results. If the people you're putting your faith in are claiming someone can make a shot from the book depository angle that will go through the back of JFK's head and exist his right temple , they're lying and claiming fiction, it can never be done if we gave them a 100 dummies in a car to prove their idiotic claims. Do me a favor stop talking like you know, Dumb people like you are expected to buy the nonsense that's being put out there to support the single assassin theory, The Angle Is Impossible. PERIOD!*
@@PEN-N-PAL Zapruder's film doesn't show anything of the sort. You're lying.
I used to believe in a possible second shooter. When I actually went to Dealy Plaza, I came away with the feeling that it would be impossible for absolutely nobody to see a second shooter. The area just seemed too intimate. I also followed LHO’s exact footsteps (there is said to be 2 possible routes) from the beginning at the depository to the ending at the Texas theater. I even timed myself. I found the timeline to be completely plausible, and believe that most reasonable people would come to the same conclusion.
They won’t be selling me any more books…which I’ve come to believe is the whole idea behind most conspiracy theories. JMO….Peace.
There was no one on the grassy knoll in those days. it only became a popular place after the Murder of the President!
Glad to see that you discovered these things for yourself, and came to a rational conclusion.
@@robertromero8692 rational OMG just like the warren commission what is it with you people.
so many spots with a clear view for snipers
South knoll is location of shooter....
yes it is.
Great video to give people perspective. By the way, it was early afternoon (12:30 CST), not morning.
Im so surprised they haven't remodeled that area all these years later.
It was designated as a National Historic Site and therefore protected from development.
It’s too bad you didn’t take some footage from where Abraham Zapruder was standing that day, like I did when I visited back in ‘92. I had my huge video camera that took VHS tapes. When you stand on the spot Zapruder shot his famous film, it is scary. It’s about 4 feet tall, from the back, but in front it drops about 10-12 feet. It’s no wonder he wanted his secretary to steady him. While standing on the concrete block you can see right over the picket fence. Nowhere to hide. A rifle shot would have made Mr. Zapruder jump, like any normal person. There was no one shooting from the grassy knoll.
Glad to see someone come to a rational conclusion.
Robert Romero, Thanks! I was into the JFK conspiracy practically my whole life, and I’m 54 now. But going to Dealey Plaza was a real eye opener. It still took me about 10 years to finally come around to most simplest explanation.
And Zapruder filmed the corner of the fence. No one there. The railroad worker in the tower said there was no one there.
@@robertromero8692
You are scared to stand up for the truth or your country . So the fbi you help will figure you betrayed your own . They know that you will turn on them way worse . Uou aren't getting briwnie points .
@@gregorydahl Is that all you have? An ad hominem attack devoid of facts? How sad.
Interesting to see how close to the grassy knoll that the railroad workers were at the time of the shooting. All agreed that there were shots from behind the fence. Of course the Waren Commission ignored them all.
No shots were fired from the picket fence. Zapruder filmed the fence. There were people on the sidewalk. The trajectories don't match. The windshield had a crack from the inside. No cartridge cases were found. There were people standing in front of the fence. The motorcycle officer didn't find anyone there. The Railroad Worker in the tower said there was no one there. President Kennedy's head was at a right angle to the fence. No rifle could have been fired without making an ear splitting noise even with a supressor. They are supressors, not silencers. Why would a picket fence shooter hit the curb near the overpass on the first shot? Conspiracy theorists claim a shot from the front but that ignores the eleven people on the overpass which includes two police officers. No police officer on the overpass believed the shots came from the fence.
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In 1970's a cogressional investigation concluded shots came from the fenced in area on the knoll .
Mary took photo not showing " people on the sidewalk steps " .
The railroad workers on the overpass saw and heard shots and saw gunsmoke come out of the trees . Your story sounds like a bunch of patches on holes in the fbi coverup stories .
1:35 is everything!!! That’s the key to the kill shot.
It's so odd!! It's like a outdoor museum
so why did Jackie reach behind onto the limo trunk to retrieve a portion of JFK's skull if the shot came from the rear. ??
Same question as to why you see the fatal shot hit just above Kennedy's right eye on the gory and graphic Z-film frame #313 if the shot came from the rear? And why his body was thrown violently backwards into the seat instead of forward, since the laws of physics and motion were not suddenly repealed on only that day?
Who says she did? She said she had no memory of doing that.
@@robertromero8692 hey Einstein. have you ever seen the Zapruder film ?
@@pwilliams5724 The Zapruder film shows WHAT she was doing. It doesn't show WHY she did it.
@@robertromero8692 oh yeah I get it. she was admiring the paint job?
Been there. Did the walk. Not so easy to get that shot from the grassy knoll as people would have you believe.
Its only 2 car lengths from the x to the fence corner . You could hit it with a bb gun .
That area is so small and exposed that 25 people would have seen and heard anyone firing from the grassy knoll.
And so close to where Zapruder and the picket fence were you could have thrown a rock and hit JFK easily.
In addition, the Elm Street slope from the TSBD to the Triple Underpass is actually quite a bit steeper in reality, than you would imagine from videos.
@@DanC-go9lc : As I said, "been there, got the T-shirt."
@@gerryquinn5578 It figures, people would sell t-shirts there now. Anything for the almighty $.
When I was there in 1993 a guy that "certifiably" owned Jack Ruby's gun was trying to sell a bullet fired thru it for $10. Or so he said. Sick fux.
Very nice. I’ve always wanted to go there. I will share this with David S. Lifton, the author of “Best Evidence.”
Wasn’t Mr. Lifton’s book about the autopsy coverup? Over the years, more than a few researchers have referenced him & his thoroughness.
Yes…”Best Evidence.”
Share it with Gerald Posner.
Interesting view at the corner of the picket fence. Besides being waaaaay too exposed (no assassin in their right mind would stand in such a place with public parking behind the fence and bystanders walking around on the grass just feet away who could at anytime wander up to the fence for a better view) but there is a limited window of time when limo would pass the concrete pergola outcrop and the tree. Limo moving left to right and where the shot occurred would be close to right angles to the corner of the picket fence (70-80 degrees) which does not align with the hard evidence nor the Z film.
exactly! Where the shot does line up is with the winged out portion of the railroad bridge of the southeast side by the parking lot.
Remember some of the folks that rushed to the grassy knoll were stopped by men who presented CIA credentials, effectively sealing off an exit area.
@@markschroeder738 yes, the fake secret service agent was actually CIA agent Bernard Barker who later was one of the Watergate thieves. He was Cuban born. The CIA was filled with Cubans. Johannides was Cuban as well.
@Bill Keon...In reference to the problem of being exposed on the Knoll....What they teach you in the Special Forces about assassination - If significant cover is not available, you disguise yourself...You want to murder someone and there’s a Military Post nearby...You dress in military uniforms...You want to murder someone in a hospital parking lot...You dress as a doctor...all someone would’ve had to do to assassinate the President from behind the fence is dress as a Dallas cop.The real cops will likely run right by you looking for something suspicious. Gordon Arnold did testify that a man dressed as a policeman came from behind the fence and took a film of the assassination from him. Gordon was standing at the top of the Knoll ..If you’re shooting from a building - say, the Dal-Tex building- you dress as a mailman...if Police storm the building, chances are they will run right by you if they see you carrying a stack of mail in your hand after you’ve broken down the rifle and stuck it in the mailbag....
If and when you ask the government why documents are still being withheld from the public, they say on the grounds of National Security...If everyone was to look beyond that statement and ask - Who is the Enemy?? The conclusion is very evident - It’s the American People... and when you look beyond that statement it’s quite obvious that the United States is no different than a Banana Republic in Central or South America... It makes you wonder about the acronym for MAGA...Is it really Manipulating America’s Gullible Assholes...
Is there a similar video from 1963?
Rush to Judgment video by Mark Lane 1966
@@realistictruckcamping2779 doesn't go to south knoll
@@fifiwoof1969 True
@@realistictruckcamping2779 what I'm trying to find out is how it changed over time, ie. The new fence.
I know nearly everything got moved since then, ie. The road sign in Z film, curb strike where bullet hit - you know, CRITICAL stuff.
DALLAS whether or not involved in the planning of the assassination BEFORE the fact (earle cabell would've been involved in planning the motorcade which was changed to go past book depository where the patsy worked) they were DEFINITELY accessories AFTER the fact with destruction of evidence - that makes questions like mine RELEVANT!
Although Dealey Plaza in Dallas looks much the same as it did back in November 1963, allegedly the City of Dallas a number of years ago moved the lampposts adjacent to the sidewalk that JFK's limousine drove past to slightly different locations and the Stemmons Freeway sign is no longer there, which makes one one wonder if those two things were done to hinder independent researchers in their research or independent reinvestigations of the JFK assassination? And of course, the Hertz Rent- A - Car sign that was atop the former Texas School Book Depository building was removed many years ago.
A few years back, read a book by now-curator Stephen Fagin about how & why the Sixth Floor Museum became a reality; the Committee had requested the Hertz sign to be put inside the museum, but do not know if they were successful in obtaining it.
@@wendylee9779 . I would doubt that the Sixth Floor Museum in the former Texas School Book Depository building has that Hertz sign because that sign was so huge how would they fit it in any area on the sixth floor of that building? The Six Floor Museum sadly is an absolute disgrace because it has no exhibits examining the huge amount of hard as well as circumstantial evidence indicating clearly that the JFK assassination was a conspiracy. As renowned author/researcher Mark Shaw stated in a recent videotaped presentation of the evidence he discovered for his book, "Collateral Damage", the Sixth Floor Museum is nothing more than a distortion of history because it continues to defend the indefensible findings of the Warren Commission. Even the House Select Committee on Assassinations in its' concluding report stated that JFK was assassinated as a result of a probable conspiracy, yet the Sixth Floor Museum disgracefully continues to push the seriously flawed Warren Commission conclusion onto the public!
Yup that's where it all went down!😥😥😔
In photographs I've seen, like the Moorman photo, it looks like there is a concrete wall right in front of the fence, but I don't see one here.
The Moorman photo was taken from across Elm Street, genius.
@@TheMighty412 That's irrelevant. When I look at the Moorman photo and the Nix film -- taken from across the street -- it looks like there is a concrete wall right in front of the fence. Perhaps there isn't -- maybe I'm misinterpreting what I'm seeing in Moorman and Nix. There's no need for the sarcasm.
I believe you're thinking of the concrete wall that's closer to the book depository, before the picket fence. There is a quick shot of it at the beginning of this video.
I assume the 1:45 position is the shot that went through windscreen and into JFK's neck.
This video reminded me...
I need to mow the grass.
That fence has gun sites and everything - the perfect shot!
I drove there when there was no traffic, so I could drive slowly through the plaza, get shot, and then speed to Parkland Hospital. It was amazing.
A nice walk in the park. A perfect spot to spot up your riffle for some duck hunting.
Post Script. Jack Kennedys PT boat based at Rendova in the Solomon islands was serviced by my dads CB unit.
YOU MISSED IT ... While in the parking lot, had you kept panning the camera toward the right at the tracks you would have seen the RR box (still there today) where the weapons and uniforms were stashed for pickup by the shooters. You went out on the RR crossing, but no shots were fired from the top, only one from below at street level (left side at street level). The shot from the grassy knoll was fired from the left of where you stopped. Your panning graphically illustrates that the Dal Tex Building was the primary shooters nest, not the school book depository. Who were the shooters ? Grassy Knoll = Jim Files ... Underpass = Charley Harrelson ... Dal Tex Building (not revealed). Who was in the school book depository (6th floor) ? At the window = Malcolm Wallace (LBJ's personal assassin), and a man with dark skin. There was a shooter on the other end of the building (South end), however he did not have a shot. What was the Coup Operation Name ? Operation Big Event.
Total BS
Why did you film the ground?
I spent five years working at 501 Elm Street, with my office window overlooking the plaza. I’ve seen a lot of weird stuff but nothing beats the guy who shot his brains out on the “X” one morning. I got to work just as they were cleaning up the scene. BTW, the “X” was never in the same place after road reconstruction/resurfacing.
And if I had a dollar for every absolute moron I saw standing on the “X” for a pic and almost get mowed down by oncoming traffic, I’d have a wallet full of spending money.
@@dallasalice1170 no doubt. Cars come whipping around that bend.
My understanding is that Zapruder’s company was on the 5th floor. I never made it up there when I was in the building but, fun fact: I literally ran into Chuck Norris walking out of my building for a smoke break. He was filming an episode of Walker, Texas Ranger and the production company set up craft services and wardrobe in our lobby. Working there was a trip.
@@DonnyBoSox I’ve whipped around it many times myself 😂
And let me tell you, working in that building late at night when I had a deadline to meet was…interesting.
Dude, you hit it, grassy area
It’s sadly odd, it’s just a crappy parking lot concealed by a chain link and wooden fence. Strange place for a era to end.
Chain link fence was added years later and the parking lot wasn't even paved when I was a teenager in 1963. Perfect place for an ambush, though.
I remember walking up to the famous “stockade fence” thinking just over the top lie all the answers to the JFK assanation, then being deflated when I saw it was just a parking lot.
The Right JFK Temple shot COULD have came from a Storm Sewer further head of the Dallas Chief of Police Curry Car before the TURNOFF onto Stemmons Freeway.
I think as you watch the video it becomes quite clear that the grassy knoll was a great place for a 2nd shooter. Odd how the official investigation quickly dismissed this possibility and relegated it to the realm of "conspiracy theorists".
What's that red brick building with the clock?
It was the courthouse then it became a museum and I guess it's going to be a courthouse again now.
If the assassin's watching this 0:40
"I was there did the job."
The Zapruder film clearly shows the shot coming from the right side !
The truth exactly offends people !
How could anyone bear to drive through Dealt Plaza?
3;33 POINT IN THIS FILM SHOWS APROXIMATELY WHERE THE FIRST SHOT WAS FIRED FROM. THAT BULLET WENT THROUGH THE WINDSHIELD JUST TO THE LEFT OF THE REAR VIEW MIRROR. CONNALLY KNEW IT WAS COMING, AND HAD GOTTEN OUT OF HIS SEAT AND WAS CLINGING TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE CAR TO LEAVE THE PATHWAY FOR THE BULLET THAT CAME THROUGH THE WINDSHIELD AND ENTERED KENNEDY'S THROAT. THE IMPACT OF THAT BULLET LIFTED KENNEDY UP OUT OF HIS SEAT AND THAT WAS WHAT BILL NEWMAN SAW WHEN HE SAID KENNEDY GRABBED HIS THROAT AND STOOD UP IN HIS SEAT BEFORE SLUMPING FORWARD NEWMAN SAID THE LIMOUSINE STOPPED IN FRONT OF HIM WHEN THE SHOT CAME FROM THE GRASSY KNOLL THAT EXPLODED KENNEDY'S HEAD. I WAS DISAPPOINTED HERE IN YOUR FILM THAT YOU DIDN'T SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME FILMING TRAFFIC FRON BEHIND THE FENCE ON THE GRASSY KNOLL, BUT I AM THANKFUL YOU FILMED FROM THE OVERPASS.
You're spouting pure fantasy.
When was that railing put in?
The American flag there is always at half mast. Numerous eyewitnesses on Nov. 22 informed police & reporters that shots & gunsmoke had come from the Grassy Knoll. Police ran up there but saw no one. If you walk behind the fence where those shots were reported, look down. There's a manhole. I'm convinced the shooter could have dropped into the manhole & ran away through the drainage system. underground.
But not a single person identified a person at the fence. No one. And there were people standing on the sidewalk, in front of the fence and Zapruder filmed the fence. Smoke coming out of a 1960's parking lot with 1950's and 1960's cars. Gee, what could possibly cause smoke???
They are right, This is a very,very grassy knoll.....
All basic elements same as in '63-
Most surprising, not knocking white picket fence down but putting chain link along its back-
For me. . it's all about that 6th floor window-
So many cannot accept the lone assassin but conjure all sorts of theories..Warren got it right..making the fence a moot part of the plaza-
Alot of echoes in that small area-
What about the railroad workers on the overpass who all claim they saw the smoke drifting over the picket fence and heard several gunshots from that area?
@@rattycaddy Modern rifles produce VERY little smoke, so little that Oliver Stone had to use FAKE smoke in his movie. It was also very windy that day, so what little smoke there was would have immediately dissipated. The story doesn't hold up.
@@rattycaddy Because they didn't. No one was behind that fence. Please do some research.
@@robertromero8692 1950's and 1960's cars in a parking lot and someone claims they saw smoke. Gee, what are the chances.
@@shooterqqqq Yeah, it's like the CTers have never heard of automobile exhaust.
You walked right past the spot where the shooter was - it wasn't in the corner of that fence, he was a few panels down.
@Std Disclaimer Sure. That's why even the commission has since said there were probably more than one shooter.
@Std Disclaimer I didn't say the Warren commission, Jackass.
@Std Disclaimer3. And I interviewed Jim Marrs about this particular subject before he passed away, so please forgive me for completely ignoring you now. It's quite obvious that you're a simple troll who accepts whatever narrative is fed to you and doesn't deviate from it, thinking you're some kind of expert on it because you have memorized the official narrative. Goodbye.
@@orvil9223 I am open to the idea of a second shooter but not from the grassy knoll; had he been hit from there the front right side of his face would have be destroyed or at least have evidence of an entry wound, but his face was fine judging by the autopsy photos, whereas the back of his head was destroyed meaning he was hit from the back. If there was a second shooter I suggest he was on the roof or a high floor of the Elm Place building which is adjacent to the school book depository.
@@loungejay8555 He was standing right behind the wooden fence that separates the railroad parking lot from the grassy knoll area.
I want to a Super Bowl as part of the Sport’s Media. I was from the generation that witnessed the effect of the JFK tragedy , including Oswald being being shot live. I felt very bad every time I passed by Daly Plaza !
At the end at 4:02 might be where a shooter fired at kennedy and hit the cement square with a round metal manhole lid beside the lower elm street branch and near where the fatal shot hit kennedy .
A bullet hit the cement curb and went into the grass lifting the sod in a straight line and the bulket was dug out by a policeman in a suit later with a woman talking to him . The policeman picked up the bullet from the grass i think and put it in his pocket while being photographed . He died later along with 58 other witnesses who did not agree with records of them testifying a shot came from a window . Hundreds of people within a minute or so of the assasination were at the grassy knoll where they heard and saw and reported the shots came from .
They were killed by the oeople who killed kennedy . They are the fbi and cia and assorted crooks .
The year 2023 mark 60 years of this tragic event in Dallas and leaving America with more questions than answers
Nice footage Donny. I walked all around there too, hoping to find some missing evidence I guess. You can go in the school book depository for a tour as well. When I looked out of that supposed window, you can't imagine 1 guy firing shots at a curving road below. But if you look 4 buildings to the right, this building has a straight look down Elm street which would account for the shot into John Connally. Not to mention the CIA likes to say "Oh, Look over here", when the real action is right over there. RIP-JFK
I knew Henry B. Gonzales , He was JFK Southwest election rep. He was in the car in back of LBJ the congessmen car . He told me that they had turned onto Elm when He heard 3 shots ? what he saw was 11 bullet strikes . They must have used suppressors on the 1891 Mausers sports . They were mod. to fire 30-06 shells and between the FBI and DPD picked up 5 bullets ? Never to be seen of or heard of again. There was a gun shop that had them in a garbage can with a sign 25$ . No ID No ? . They almost looked like the Carcano . Watch the finding Oswalds rifle film . Day is using a mag. glass on it . On Sunday the DPD did a reenactment of the finding the rifle film . What they hold up in the hall way was a Carcano , but this is after Buddy Walthers got back from Ruths house. There is all kind of mysteries like just how many wallets did Buddy find . He found one in a jacket under a car , he found one at Tippet murder scene , He pulled one out of Oswalds pocket in the back of the squad car. Something aint up and up on this stuff ?
@@jimmywilkinson9190 Wow, I hadn't heard any of this before. Thank you for sharing something new for me to explore. I heard the LBJ & Hoover recordings. It all makes me sick to my stomach, but we should always be aware of how far ego driven freaks will go to steal power.
@@jimmywilkinson9190 Lots of fantasy in your post.
@@robertromero8692 It would be who you listen to . The W.C. or eye witnesses. Remember what them said ---- We have to make the American Public ????????
@@jimmywilkinson9190 Over 550 witnesses gave their testimony to the WC.
Thanks
Psst,go check out the storm drain right next to where he got shot,and then watch the NIX FILM in slow motion the timing works perfectly,the motorcycle cops even stop and look at the storm drain.BANG