As a fan of the book and one that has wanted to see herberts story receive an adaptation of peter jacksons lord of the rings caliber. I say yes so far this has been that.
And in regards to where it ended. I took The story of part 1 as about paul accepting his fate and becoming a man. Him killing jamis was exactly where i wouldve ended it myself.
UA-cam keeps feeding me dune reviews. At the risk of repeating. Dune is the most highly overrated film of the year. It is meh. It has the same intellectual depth as a Marvel movie, with huge visuals substituting for action. The film was horribly miscast. Chalamet skipped the serious gym time he needed to prepare for this role. Instead of Paul being a short-for-his-age 15-year-old who is ready to step into his father's position as Duke, the miscasting of Chalamet gives us a Paul who is Hamlet-like. Paul goes from being a strong figure in the novel and becomes as wuss in the film. Fergusson is one dimensional and is horrible as Jessica. Francesca Annis was much better in the horrible 1984 film. Because of the horrible miscasting, Villeneuve has had to insert scenes to cover for it. "I only need you to be my son" and "Putting muscle" were clearly inserted to cover for the bad casting for Paul. I add the Villeneuve totally butchered the Kynes storyline. When I heard he was genderbending the characters, I expected Denis has some plan for it. Clearly he didn't. If the film had omitted the useless scenes not in the novel and picked up the pace, there would have been plenty of time to do the character development that is totally lacking. As you say, the score is dreadful. I guess with all the big budget special effects, they could only afford monkeys banging on a synthesizer for the score. The producers hired the wrong director. Villeneuve has no concept of how to put together an epic and he sucked the soul out of Frank Herbert's novel. Can anyone imagine sitting through four more hours of this to get to the end of the story?
@@TheMovieHowze Thanks for checking out my review. As someone who hasn't read the book, I can into this movie cold, which may in part, affected my enjoyment of the movie.
@@colosseumbuilders4768 Thanks for checking out my review. I couldn't agree more about how soulless this movie is, which is a shame given the talent behind and in front of the camera.
I never read the books. This movie was so boring. The story was lame. I didn't like or care for any of the characters. I was lost at times. A lot of wtf moments. Also a lot of scenes took ages and nothing interesting happens like the ships taking off. Some of the music was humorous. I seen it in a cinema. Hardly anything happened.
@@toonsis It's a movie. Of course it should stand by itself, without the audience having to pre-read the source material. Any well-made movie adaptation worth its salt can hold its own as a standalone creation, without an over reliance on the book to do all the heavy lifting that the movie failed to convey.
The problem is that the movie really does not do much with the runtime. The movie should have spent that time introducing the Padishah Emperor, Princess Irulan Feyd Rautha Raban (all of which will play huge role in part two) and more time for characters like doc. Yueh, Piter de Vries, Thufir Hawat, who play a huge role but get no screen time. Instead we get painfully long shots of people staring, drawn out out visions that repeat themselves and served only as a footage for trailer, Chani apearing in Pauls vission for 5th time staring... Such a pointless waste of time that should have been spent on worldbuilding and important characters. I might be alone in this but this really pissed me off to the point I rolled my eyes multiple times because I really liked some aspects but despised these "wasteful" scenes that could have instead be used to immerse you into the world of Dune.
Even if they didnt make the pauls visions parts, it wouldnt be enough to put Thufirs suspicions about Jessica, learn about Yueh, fleshing out Piter, presenting Padishah and Irulan. Do you really think there was that much time in a 2 and a half hour movie? Really?
Thanks for checking out my review. I have no idea how people consider this movie to be a masterpiece. A good movie, yes, but nothing more than that, in my opinion.
Denis is an okay director. He’s hit or miss for me. I liked prisoners a lot, but other than that all of his films bored me; he can have visually stunning movies, but it’s mostly overshadowed by bland characters and dragged out scenes. His movies are also pretentious most of the time.
The movie was visually interesting but the story telling lacks richness and is simplistic . Why do people keep going over the top with their praise this was bland and oatmeal .it does not add anything to the sci-fi genre in terms of world building or extending futuristic science . Assuming you haven’t read the book what would this film look like? I read the book it transported me and immersed me in the a totally different World it was a mesh of sci-fi with a touch of fantasy because a feudalistic future was not a new sci-fi direction but a throw back . This film must have had such low expectations that was exceeded
It's basically an empty, hollow, boring, 'cut n paste' updated sfx version of the renowned 1984 David Lynch masterpiece w/much poorer casting n acting. It's almost like the sfx n acting in contemporary films r inversely correlated. I'm not even claiming the 2021 sfx is 'better' bc the practical effects of the 1984 version r much more realistic. As the movie drags on u begin to notice everything on screen appears very plain, 'sterile', n 'underwhelming' (boring). 😳 I couldn't help but keep comparing every scene to Lynch's version n it doesn't compare well to the grand encompassing scifi scope, fantasy, n masterpiece that David Lynch envisioned n created! I watched the 3-hr Spice Diver redux fan edit of David Lynch's 1984 version on Utube afterward n the casting n quality of acting, production design, n artistic vision is night n day! 🤩
The studios r laying the hype n marketing blitz on thick to try to recoup as much of their investments 💸 as possible in this blockbuster 'flop'. They're depending on the population of 'lemmings' to regurgitate their marketing lines - 'DV is soo existential, most definitely the next coming of christ', 'the cinematography is masturbation', 'the best movie in like the history of cinema!'. CRINGE... 🤢 People (non-lemmings/NPCs/studio shills/sheeple 🐑) see thru this manipulative commercial propaganda n it reflects in the b.o. numbers leaving nowhere for studio shills/sheeple 🐑 but to regurgitate lame rote excuses n imaginary numbers. The studios r in the red by many of $Millions 💸 n to try n save face they're going to gamble n lose many more $Millions 💸 w/a tentatively announced sequel 😂
@@kentong2033 Even a random background extra in Lynch's Dune, is more interesting than any of the castmembers in this new movie. This movie did set a new paradigm however. One of the most superficial (all style, no substance) movies ever made. It felt soulless, like it was made by some A.I. algorithm that tried to mimic human emotion. The characterisation and portrayal thereof by this lackluster cast of actors, pale into insignificance when compared to David Lynch's FAR more entertaining movie.
I like sci-fi movies and this looked interesting I didn’t like it the first time I gave it another knowing this was more about dialogues and setting up the next movie and still didn’t like it, the praise it’s getting is crazy and I don’t understand it
After watching the movie (thankfully I did not waste money for the cinema) I felt totally bored. Not because of the lack of action but rather the lack of emotionally connection. Game of Thrones was also slow to read and see but there was a lot to enjoy compared with this boring crap. To me it was not clear why it is so important that house Atari-something keeps control over the spice. Did we see the Emperor or Harkonnen do everything evil on a world or galaxy threatening level? And the main characters were so flat they could be described in a few words without missing anything (Paul in short: I am prince and dreams of the future but I don't want to). It also looked boring, for example the Harkonnen's ship was a flying TitTac!
@@welcomebackzach8745 interstellar is more focused for people who are interested in Space and Time... In that regard it is a masterpiece. Dune is just extremely boring and uninteresting
The movie felt like a massive teaser trailer for the next one. The timing of Paul's visions felt extremely frustrating too. It happened at times that put him in danger all the while the audience fully knowing he had plot armour.
Afrer hearing all the hype of dune and dune 2, i finally watched them a bit ago. Uh yeah... i legit cannot wrap my head around the INSANE hype these movies get. I've had people get mad at me because i didn't like them lol. They took it as a personal insult which is beyond weird
2 out of 10. Only for the visuals. Otherwise, this film was sooo boring. It feels like paying for watching one of those demo slow motion videos to showcase an oled tv.
I just watched both movies today.. I'm a huge fan of the original movie and one of the TV series adaptations but I know their true ratings, hype ratings and cult status which over the years can inflating ratings. These two new movies are TERRIBLE. Oh WOW. Halfway through the first movie I thought did I get a table reading of the script version or something. A bunch of currently popular actors just being themselves. Granted that is an acting style but I am just not used to almost everyone using that style at the same time. I've never seen the lead actor who played Paul so I have no reference but I REALLY think that was a casting mistake. Same goes for Zendywhatever. She nails musical roles but standard acting roles. Sorry Spidey fans. Man I love Brolin!! He's had some amazing roles. Yea this isn't one of them... Jason Momoa ALWAYS plays Jason Momoa.... Actors who play themselves in movies is fine as long as the role fits them which it didn't here. Never saw Duncan Idaho on screen. It was Momoa every time. Rebecca Ferguson as Jessica was GOOD! She nailed the role. Dave Bautista nailed his role and if anything he could have gone even crazier with it but nailed it just the same. Stellan skarsgard as the Baron. More calculating and less crazy. It worked. Everyone seems to loves this movie so I guess it's a me problem. Wouldn't be the first time and not the last for sure.
While I enjoy your objectivity I have a much harsher opinion of the film. It failed to constructed an understandable narrative of why things happened coupled with empty characters it was impossible to become emotionally invested in. Both of these make the film along with its long run time an uninteresting experience I cannot see myself revisiting. While Dune isn't bad in the sense of being unpleasant it fails to generate any excitement or attachment which places it solidly 3/10 for me
Beautifully said. It’s a shame so many of these directors who are renowned for their attention to detail fail to apply much of that creative energy toward character motivations, character development, exploring the film’s themes in depth, etc They seem to only be interested in hyper-focusing their intellect to craft extremely striking visuals at the expense of anything of tangible or emotional substance
Here after part2: They're just another regular, shallow, boilerplate, play-safe, correct, self-absorbed, cashgrab blockbusters... moreover they are not good films on their own either... Dune deserved better. Dune isn't Star Wars or Marvel. I would rather see mid-budget animated series that would go deeper, more into the psychedelia and weirdness of Dune and even took some of Lynch, Jodorowsky, Moebius, Giger, Foss etc. and all the 60s/70s...
Such a lazy, empty, hollow, underwhelming movie. DV doesn't do sci-fi well just so plain n sterile scene to scene w/awful to no character development. Many have commented how they couldn't care less abt the characters bc nothing was shown nor given that would make us care abt their fate or actions one way or another? The Baron is a caricature simply shown as a floating fat dude in a latex suit spouting evil platitudes, the Beast Rabban does absolutely nothing, I didn't even know Piter is in the movie bc he does nothing but just die, Feyd is missing, Yueh is embarrassingly cast as some stereotypical token Asian guy w/broken English completely missing/fudging the entire crucial subplot of a traitor in the house n his seething personal motivation, Duke Leto n Lady Jessica r a pale comparison to the regal command of Prochnow n beauty n elegance of Annis, the fat dude as Thufir is a joke w/no clue on what's a Mentat, the Reverend Mother hides under a veil the whole time shrouding her god awful acting, Bardem mumbles his entire way thru the movie, n Chalamet n Zendaya look like high school kids acting in a high school play. Just plain poor casting n acting all around. 🤢🤕😳
The acting in here is way better than any previous adaptation, the lynch movie was ass. It's an adaptation, their gonna be stuff that's cut like the Harkonens or small minor plotlines. And no, Denis Villeneuve isn't lazy at sci-fi, in fact he's one of the best working in the sci-fi genre for film. Arrival, BR2049, and now dune, maybe it just wasn't for you
@@criticizedreviews1081 as WWlad commented below - "The problem is that the movie really does not do much with the runtime. The movie should have spent that time introducing the Padishah Emperor, Princess Irulan Feyd Rautha Raban (all of which will play huge role in part two) and more time for characters like doc. Yueh, Piter de Vries, Thufir Hawat, who play a huge role but get no screen time. Instead we get painfully long shots of people staring, drawn out out visions that repeat themselves and served only as a footage for trailer, Chani apearing in Pauls vission for 5th time staring... Such a pointless waste of time that should have been spent on worldbuilding and important characters. I might be alone in this but this really pissed me off to the point I rolled my eyes multiple times because I really liked some aspects but despised these "wasteful" scenes that could have instead be used to immerse you into the world of Dune." This DV adaptation/remake (perfume commercial) is trash imo n a wishful greedy studio money-grab like most remakes/reboots of original film classics (Ghostbusters Vag 2016, Terminator Dark Turd, The Last Jedi Abbortion, etc.). I really wanted to like it as a fan of FH's Dune, but it was plain empty, hollow, completely miscast, n an embarrassment to the universe of Dune.
I've always criticised Denis Villeneuve as lazy and emotionally hollow ... he's always depending on big empty spaces and dressing up his laziness as pretentious minimalism to make shallow pseudo intellectual audience go wow but does a boring job with the dialogues and characters ... 2049 was really emotionally lazy and hollow too but he's able to disguise the flaws by copying some of Ridley Scott's well established cyberpunk looks to make it seem more interesting ...
I tried to like this movie but I couldn’t. It has very cool concepts especially the voice. But it’s pacing and storytelling is awful. I feel like they just hired all these big actors to make people think the movie would be good but honestly it’s disappointing
Denis V is an overrated filmmaker. Even his best -- I loved, despite being atleast 20 min. too long, Blade Runner 2049 -- but Dune 1 and 2 were full of inconsistencies, and less true to the novels than Lynch's 1984 effort -- even as flawed as IT was.
Super overrated. I was down to get into this movie and after watching it I’m still waiting. Timmy is lame and dead eyed. Oscar Isaac was great and the only character with some personality is Jason Mamoas. MJ kept showing up but did absolutely nothing. The “visuals” are just sand, ships and explosions, none of which are anything new. Of course a big budget Hollywood movie is gonna “look good”. That doesn’t make it a good movie because it looks great in iMax.
that movie was bad. I don`t know post marvel movies are as bad as the marvel movies. This movie is very bad. It just looks nice but the story telling is bad. And can someone explain me why they fighting with swords. They have powerfull tools to cut through metal but don`t use it as a weapon, fucking brilliant.
Finally! This was not good at all! Bad screenplay. Waste of the cast. Paul was miscast. Relied on cgi to make up for the script. Big fan of the books. Liked the Lynch movie much better.
I did not like the movie. It's boring, the characters are flat, the story is clunky and the directing is mixed. Dennis is overrated. He has done some good movies, but this isn't one of them chief. What a huge letdown. 5/10.
This movie drags for the entire runtime And it’s a build up to nothing that ever happens its way to exposition heavy I just found movies incredibly boring But they had great visuals
This movie is super boring, too long at times (too many times) and is about a boy who has dreams that comes true. So Lame and i Imagine part 2 will be the same.
He nailed it on the head. Character development and pacing was off on the movie. How many zendaya shots did we need of her gazing and walking instead of a great dialog scene for those who haven't read the book. The visuals are outstanding but you still need the Character development to drive the story. The relationship between Jessica and Paul was the strongest part of the movie in my opinion. We didn't get any emperor scenes but plenty of chani gazing at Paul over and over. I thought the Duncan escape in the coper was new not in the book. It was a nice action scene. But I also wanted more scenes of the Baron. Like the guy said in the video a missed opportunity. Still I would recommend people go see DUNE because it isn't a super hero movie and something different
It was refreshing to find a video that doesn't just gush over how perfect this movie is! I found it a bit long myself. I agree with you that the acting was first-rate and that the movie in general was epic in scale.
I feel much better after reading the comments here, can’t believe took me few days to watch this boring movie i feel like this was still a waste of time for me (just my opinion). Decided to watch after checking the imdb rating (8/10 😂) I personally now won’t trust this rate anymore..
This movie had no interesting characters, you didn't care about, way too long and boring. The only action scene was less than 3 minutes. People are only calling this movie a masterpiece because of special effects
@@aryankaushik93 it's scant plot and none existent themes too watered down to be for an intellectual audience. its a dull epic fail, for the book fans ond movie goers.
What you said….but the opposite for me. I don’t give 2 shits about special effects, I was engrossed every second of it and I loved the character development. To each their own.
It's "trendy" to praise it as a masterpiece. That's for the sheep casual mentality. Analysing this movie, no matter who directed it, it was just not that great. No character development, characters have like "brain dead" acting, no emotional pull, no story execution to pull and interest the audience, the atmosphere and areas feel too "clean" not very realistic as if nobody really lives there. It's like someone trying to fix a car but doesn't want to get their hands dirty. The "messiah" kid has no acting ability or any sort of charisma, I can go on and on. I felt nothing for whatever happened in the movie. I didn't care who died or survived. I just didn't care at all. I have no desire to rewatch it because nothing really major happens and its a bit boring. It makes me not care for the sequel.
For those people that have never heard of Dune and have never read the incredible high level Dune books, this movie is fine as a new story of adventure for those people. But for us Dune fans who love the genius of Herbert's writing, prose and story telling, these new Dune movies are nothing more than the Disney Star Wars versions of Dune. I personally could not stand them. They were shallow, diverged massively from the true story and point of Dune, had poor casting choices and as a whole were mostly silly. There was also significant pandering to Woke Politics throughout the first two movies which I found highly distasteful and an insult to the Herbert legacy.
I'm not a sci-fi guy but I know film. The movie was technically well done but I found the film dull and flat. Even the actors who are some of my favorites seem a little lost in the darkness. I tried but I just don't get the love.
Overrated. I read the books multiple times, and it ruined the movie for me. They left out soooo f'ing much of the books out, I wonder if someone who hasn't read them even truly 'gets' the deeper themes and meanings. Aside from the visuals (which are great), the 2001 scifi miniseries did a much better job.
Thanks for checking my review. You're spot on, as someone who hasn't read the book, there are many aspects in the film that flew over me. What annoys me the most is that the film never develops the characters in any substantial way as well the ending, that felt like it cut as the 3rd act was about to begin.
@@HollywoodTown Yes, those are exactly the parts that were left out. If you have the time, watch the 2001 scifi miniseries (here on yt). If you can ignore the over-the-top costumes, it portrays the story a lot better. /watch?v=wXEkoO35MyI The parts from 15:00-18:00 and 46:00-49:00 give more of the Harkonnen side of the story than the whole 2001 movie together.
Villneuve filmed entire book with all plots, but studio made him cut down to 2.5 hours. First part should be at least 3.5, and i would even cut out battle scene.
But, but it was true to the story... Lol, messing with you. It really infuriates me, all the reviews that say that. You are exactly right! I did like the Lynch version the best, but it was for reasons unrelated to the story. I liked the pacing and gritty/demented artistic style from Lynch. The mini-series is the best representation and I really enjoyed it as well. The Lynch version is just more nostalgic, since I watched it as a kid.
6/10 is being overly nice. As movie being directed by a reputable director and a existing novel that lays out the story for you, for me it's a 4.5/10. Fails to even have basic character development and story execution to pull the audience, you know, storytelling in film 101.
Reasons I feel this movie is extremely overrated (having read the book): Characterization, Acting & Casting: The characters lacked 3 dimensional depth. Apart from Oscar Isaac's portrayal I believe nobody added value to the characters - you cared for the character. I can say that nobody would really be emotionally invested in the other characters. Jason Momoa and Bautista who were cast in the film, were the worst choices for those characters. Jason Momoa acts very similarly in each of his movies which takes away from the character because it feels like Jason Momoa and not Duncan. Dialogues: Dialogues fall flat and feels like recitals of Shakespeare. What I mean is that they lack the conviction to pull those lines off which as it is weren't written well. That lame scene between Duncan and Paul about having muscle is a prime example. The scene blocking was off and they could have taken creative liberty with something more meaningful. Acting again was subpar. Editing: Some of the worst editing I have seen in my life. The scenes all feel disjointed. There is no flow. The characters who die in the film just seem like any other casualty (which has also to do with the characterization and dialogues, etc.). This felt like a documentation rather than a cinematic adventure. Music: I believe only Nolan knows how to get the right type of music out of Hans. While many consider Hans overrated, he has generally gotten it right to create a mood and sense of bringing the story together. Even if you take a movie like X-men: Dark Phoenix which is just as horrible as the rest of the Fox produced x-men movies, was whatever good it was because of the music by Hans and his team. The percussion elements were good however in the movie and maybe it was a conscious choice to keep the music way in the background whereas Nolan likes it to be loud in his movies. While I agree the music should never overpower the story and film, to control the pacing in such a long movie, music is a good medium to do so. Cinematography & VFX: Brilliant. I believe the highlight of the film is its visual representation. Comparing to the book it has captured the vastness and the stylised elements (not all of course). But it was definitely worth seeing in the theatres because of this reason. I probably wouldn't be able to sit through this movie watching it on my laptop or TV. I agree with this video about having this movie and its sequel shot together. The film is not a masterpiece by any means. It's sad to see pseudo-intellectuals say it is (not criticising people who did actually enjoy it). The book does portray metaphorical aspects throughout and its the journey of the reader to absorb it and ponder over them. This movie is something you play in the background because neither is it entertaining or thought provoking. However the book sequels get more interesting and mind blowing. Hopefully the second part of the first book can make up for it. It is not meant as a rant. I appreciate the hard work that has gone into the movie and the people who have enjoyed it. This book is anyway one of the most difficult ones to bring to the screens and its inspiring that many visual elements were marvellous. Cheers.
Completely agree with everything you said, especially the editing. You can literally swap the sequencing of the first half of the movie and it would make no difference
Never read the book but the year 2000 miniseries did the best job telling the story. Compared to 1984 version and Dune part 1&2. I honestly didn't know just how much information was missing until i seen the miniseries.
I think the visuals were the worst, besides the mother superior spaceship arriving in caladan scene, everything else is bland and boring, it should have more noise, props, to make the world look lived in, populated, but everything looks sanitized, not even the sand looks like sand, eveything is too clean. The brutalist architecture is interesting but the mninalism inside the buildings are boring, when i read the books I thought the visual would look more like a blend of fantasy and sci-fi. The syfy tv show had the right mood.
The book is good. The David Lynch film was a brave effort which didn't fully succeed. This film is boring. The actors are wooden. The photography and music are mediocre. For quality modern science fiction The Expanse tv series is vastly superior to this film. All just my opinion, of course.
Thanks for checking out my review man. Definitely, this movie had a-lot of potential, but it is squandered on many scenes that plod along and don't go anywhere at the best of times.
Not a terrible film but yes it is greatly overrated in my opinion. Almost zero character development. Many of the support characters could easily be replaced with cardboard standees.
Thanks for checking out my review. Spot on with the 0 character development point, it was a shame that they didn't even bother to develop theses characters, given the wealth of acting talent on-display.
In Denis Villeneuve's Dune, Paul is no longer a one-dimensional ‘hero’. You have a greater understanding of the cost of his prescience and what scares him so much about the Golden path. He's flawed, he’s young and he’s afraid. He lashes out as opposed to simply being stoically heroic. Paul’s path is all about three things: survival, power and revenge. His family is betrayed, his father and friends are slain, and he and his mother are left for dead in the desert. His initial motivation is to survive, and in accordance with this they find refuge with the Fremen. The film ends with him being forced to adjust, to adapt to an entirely new and different society.
I too found this film vastly over-rated. At best, a pseudo-faithful adaptation of the source material that comes with many (many) flaws, big and small. I have to disagree about that Ferguson woman. She was a terrible Jessica. Always seems on the verge of bawling and crying. Also seems lost in her own house kind of vibe. No good. Many of the IMPORTANT secondary characters are barely in the movie. At all. IE, Yueh, Thufir, De Vries etc. Yea, I liked the ornithopters too, but, the movie itself? Average at best. And even that might be a bit of a stretch to give it that much credit. The (overall) good acting, FX, and technical competence save the film from disaster. These elements however, do not make up for a basically poorly told story, dodgy creative decisions, bad pacing, and muddled world-building. I don't remember the sound track at all either despite everyone saying how awesome it was supposed to be.
Great visually but I cared little for any of the characters. Dialogue was weak. Actors had little to sink their teeth into because they they came in behind the visuals and music.
This movie actually had my attention for about 3/4 of its run time. I liked the slow world building, the very unique and interesting visuals and the characters were interesting enough. Then comes when Paul and his mother escape to the Fremen and the story then is just a generic bore. It gets predictable and no real interesting story points happen. Just another protagonist on the run for the evil empire. A formula we've seen a hundred times already.
The world/universe of dune is very bland and just not that much going on to hold your interest. I liked the "voice" concept as well, it's pretty good although one can argue it's similar to force manipulation like in starwars. However, it still felt fresh somehow. The bad thing is that its too long and it doesn't use that time properly but it's wasted on whispered dialogue and slow pacing. Overall, it's okayish but I don't see what all the fuss is about
A good movie consist from three elements, a good director, good actors, and a good script Denis Dune doesn't contain any of these…. The movie is also full of men unfriendly propaganda, the main character “Paul Atreides” is portrayed in Dune as an insecure, anti hero character and that doesn’t match the original story of Dune at all… Better watch Jodorowsky’s making of Dune documentary first, then read Jodorowsky’s Dune film script, and in your head you will see a much better Dune You also can watch (for free!) the 1984 extended version of Dune called: “Dune 1984 Alternative Edition Redux edited by Spicediver” that is ten times better than the newer Denis Dune….!
better watch on UA-cam: "Dune 1984 Alternative Edition Redux edited by Spicediver" it has narration in the opening scenes and is so much better version of Dune
Glad to see I'm not thw only one who thinks the movie is bad, it has amazing shots yes but it's still a boring movies cinephiles would love to rub in your face whenever they got the chance
As Dune fan i played all games readed all books including son of Frank Herbert books. Watched old and dune serial. This is just boring make no sense movie.
I absolutely agree with you, except when it comes to the score. I honestly really liked that for this movie, Hans Zimmer has taken a more abstract take on the music and it gives Dune this mystic feeling, but I completely understand why some people wouldn't like it, as again, it's very abstract.
The score didn't do it for me especially because I think Brian Tyler's Children of Dune score was exceedingly better. This was just noise. There is a grandness that Zimmer's score lacked.
In the wake of Mad Max Fury Road, and the arresting beauty of Miller's desert in that film, there's no way I can compliment Dune's cinematography as among the best of the decade.
i pity the cast. they are blamed for their portrayal of the characters when they wouldn't be hired or kept on board if the studio and director didn't like what they where getting. however it's an annoyance that popular actors were hired to get butts in seat because the movie is extremely dull and no one would see it otherwise. i dont have an opinion on the score, the music is not important if the story is so lacking in engagement. the blaring music seems to try its best to distract you that youre getting boring dreadful empty story. denis told this story poorly. its like its only 8 pages of plot. he wasted too much time on jessica and paul in the dessert, characters staring into nothingness, pauls visions of zendaya to keep her fans interested and long landscape shots. too much hype for a director who claims to love the story while watering it down so much that the plot and themes are practically non existent.
The Lord of The Rings and The Godfather pt 1 and 2..that’s my standard. Those are masterpieces. I will not call a movie a masterpiece unless it fits that standard. I don’t buy the “well don’t judge movies that harshly” excuse. If it could be done back then, it can be done now. This movie wasn’t horrible, but it is by no means a masterpiece. And also, this is just personal preference, but just like with Mad Max, I don’t find a desert to be a visually compelling place to hold any kind of fantasy story..hard to know where you are when literally everything looks the same
Everything HT said was accurate. But for me, as someone who saw the original '84 film in the theater, the main issue was that this version simply re-told '84 script with no significant improvement. The only purpose I see for this movie to exist is to re-introduce the characters with new actors so subsequent sequels can be made. Sad, really.
I actually didnt rly like how this film was shot. It have amazing looking scenes but its so grimy looking for sum reason, combine that with the crazy visuals that they are trying to pull off it comes off as a mismatched "deep" painting that sumone just squirted all over and called it done
1. Casting was the worst. Timothee Chalamet and Rebecca Ferguson were uniformly terrible in portraying their assigned characters. I have liked Ferguson well in other films, so I did not expect this. Jason Momoa played a fairly good rendition of Jason Momoa. Zendaya has no intersection with acting. Kyle McLachlan, Francesca Annis, Richard Jordan, and Sean Young were far better. At least ten of the other actors (Patrick Stewart as Gurney Halleck, for instance), gave performances superior to the weak porridge presented in the 2021 version. 2. Direction: did Denis even read the original book, or did he merely glance at Cliff's Notes? Was his subjugation to woke culture so much more important? 3. Writing: too slow, too boring, too opaque, largely lacking in motivation. 4. Art: I liked the ornithopters and the sand worms. Otherwise, this was pretty much a strikeout. ------2 of 10-----
Do you think that Dune is Denis Villeneuve's masterpiece or does this movie miss the mark for you?
As a fan of the book and one that has wanted to see herberts story receive an adaptation of peter jacksons lord of the rings caliber. I say yes so far this has been that.
And in regards to where it ended. I took The story of part 1 as about paul accepting his fate and becoming a man. Him killing jamis was exactly where i wouldve ended it myself.
UA-cam keeps feeding me dune reviews. At the risk of repeating. Dune is the most highly overrated film of the year. It is meh. It has the same intellectual depth as a Marvel movie, with huge visuals substituting for action. The film was horribly miscast. Chalamet skipped the serious gym time he needed to prepare for this role. Instead of Paul being a short-for-his-age 15-year-old who is ready to step into his father's position as Duke, the miscasting of Chalamet gives us a Paul who is Hamlet-like. Paul goes from being a strong figure in the novel and becomes as wuss in the film. Fergusson is one dimensional and is horrible as Jessica. Francesca Annis was much better in the horrible 1984 film. Because of the horrible miscasting, Villeneuve has had to insert scenes to cover for it. "I only need you to be my son" and "Putting muscle" were clearly inserted to cover for the bad casting for Paul. I add the Villeneuve totally butchered the Kynes storyline. When I heard he was genderbending the characters, I expected Denis has some plan for it. Clearly he didn't. If the film had omitted the useless scenes not in the novel and picked up the pace, there would have been plenty of time to do the character development that is totally lacking. As you say, the score is dreadful. I guess with all the big budget special effects, they could only afford monkeys banging on a synthesizer for the score. The producers hired the wrong director. Villeneuve has no concept of how to put together an epic and he sucked the soul out of Frank Herbert's novel. Can anyone imagine sitting through four more hours of this to get to the end of the story?
@@TheMovieHowze Thanks for checking out my review. As someone who hasn't read the book, I can into this movie cold, which may in part, affected my enjoyment of the movie.
@@colosseumbuilders4768 Thanks for checking out my review. I couldn't agree more about how soulless this movie is, which is a shame given the talent behind and in front of the camera.
I never read the books. This movie was so boring. The story was lame. I didn't like or care for any of the characters. I was lost at times. A lot of wtf moments. Also a lot of scenes took ages and nothing interesting happens like the ships taking off. Some of the music was humorous. I seen it in a cinema. Hardly anything happened.
If you never read the book, just dont bother because you are not going to understand it
@@toonsis It's a movie. Of course it should stand by itself, without the audience having to pre-read the source material. Any well-made movie adaptation worth its salt can hold its own as a standalone creation, without an over reliance on the book to do all the heavy lifting that the movie failed to convey.
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Is that to say you liked it?
@@toonsis a good movie shouldn’t require you to read the book beforehand
@@toonsis lol this dude talking about dune like it was some Heidegger paper or something
All I would like to say is, I'm so glad I didn't have to pay to see this movie.
I wasted enough $ on BR 2049. I had to see it 4 times to believe it was that bad. I was in denial at first I wanted to love it.
The problem is that the movie really does not do much with the runtime. The movie should have spent that time introducing the Padishah Emperor, Princess Irulan Feyd Rautha Raban (all of which will play huge role in part two) and more time for characters like doc. Yueh, Piter de Vries, Thufir Hawat, who play a huge role but get no screen time. Instead we get painfully long shots of people staring, drawn out out visions that repeat themselves and served only as a footage for trailer, Chani apearing in Pauls vission for 5th time staring... Such a pointless waste of time that should have been spent on worldbuilding and important characters. I might be alone in this but this really pissed me off to the point I rolled my eyes multiple times because I really liked some aspects but despised these "wasteful" scenes that could have instead be used to immerse you into the world of Dune.
Even if they didnt make the pauls visions parts, it wouldnt be enough to put Thufirs suspicions about Jessica, learn about Yueh, fleshing out Piter, presenting Padishah and Irulan. Do you really think there was that much time in a 2 and a half hour movie? Really?
No you are not alone thinking about the same thing. Most terrible boring I have ever watch
I am in complete agreement with your post bravo stated it perfectly
My thoughts exactly.
@@sellerim6847 Somehow David Lynch managed to do so with even less runtime.
No soul, no depth, no purpose. How is this movie even a masterpiece then?
Thanks for checking out my review. I have no idea how people consider this movie to be a masterpiece. A good movie, yes, but nothing more than that, in my opinion.
I couldn't say it better myself....Denis is the most over hyped wanna be director I have ever see....
Denis is an okay director. He’s hit or miss for me. I liked prisoners a lot, but other than that all of his films bored me; he can have visually stunning movies, but it’s mostly overshadowed by bland characters and dragged out scenes. His movies are also pretentious most of the time.
because this generation doesn't know the definition of quality, all they know is "hey look! attractive man I like is in movie! good movie!"
People think Dune is great so they can say Star Wars sux
Absolute worst casting in history
Main cast ruined movie
The movie was visually interesting but the story telling lacks richness and is simplistic . Why do people keep going over the top with their praise this was bland and oatmeal .it does not add anything to the sci-fi genre in terms of world building or extending futuristic science . Assuming you haven’t read the book what would this film look like? I read the book it transported me and immersed me in the a totally different World it was a mesh of sci-fi with a touch of fantasy because a feudalistic future was not a new sci-fi direction but a throw back . This film must have had such low expectations that was exceeded
It's basically an empty, hollow, boring, 'cut n paste' updated sfx version of the renowned 1984 David Lynch masterpiece w/much poorer casting n acting. It's almost like the sfx n acting in contemporary films r inversely correlated. I'm not even claiming the 2021 sfx is 'better' bc the practical effects of the 1984 version r much more realistic. As the movie drags on u begin to notice everything on screen appears very plain, 'sterile', n 'underwhelming' (boring). 😳
I couldn't help but keep comparing every scene to Lynch's version n it doesn't compare well to the grand encompassing scifi scope, fantasy, n masterpiece that David Lynch envisioned n created! I watched the 3-hr Spice Diver redux fan edit of David Lynch's 1984 version on Utube afterward n the casting n quality of acting, production design, n artistic vision is night n day! 🤩
The studios r laying the hype n marketing blitz on thick to try to recoup as much of their investments 💸 as possible in this blockbuster 'flop'. They're depending on the population of 'lemmings' to regurgitate their marketing lines - 'DV is soo existential, most definitely the next coming of christ', 'the cinematography is masturbation', 'the best movie in like the history of cinema!'.
CRINGE... 🤢
People (non-lemmings/NPCs/studio shills/sheeple 🐑) see thru this manipulative commercial propaganda n it reflects in the b.o. numbers leaving nowhere for studio shills/sheeple 🐑 but to regurgitate lame rote excuses n imaginary numbers. The studios r in the red by many of $Millions 💸 n to try n save face they're going to gamble n lose many more $Millions 💸 w/a tentatively announced sequel 😂
@@kentong2033 Even a random background extra in Lynch's Dune, is more interesting than any of the castmembers in this new movie. This movie did set a new paradigm however. One of the most superficial (all style, no substance) movies ever made. It felt soulless, like it was made by some A.I. algorithm that tried to mimic human emotion. The characterisation and portrayal thereof by this lackluster cast of actors, pale into insignificance when compared to David Lynch's FAR more entertaining movie.
I like sci-fi movies and this looked interesting I didn’t like it the first time I gave it another knowing this was more about dialogues and setting up the next movie and still didn’t like it, the praise it’s getting is crazy and I don’t understand it
Oatmeal with no sugar or butter added either.
Couldn't sit until the end, left the theatre. Waste of time and money
After watching the movie (thankfully I did not waste money for the cinema) I felt totally bored. Not because of the lack of action but rather the lack of emotionally connection. Game of Thrones was also slow to read and see but there was a lot to enjoy compared with this boring crap. To me it was not clear why it is so important that house Atari-something keeps control over the spice. Did we see the Emperor or Harkonnen do everything evil on a world or galaxy threatening level? And the main characters were so flat they could be described in a few words without missing anything (Paul in short: I am prince and dreams of the future but I don't want to). It also looked boring, for example the Harkonnen's ship was a flying TitTac!
Nah it looked like drab overproduced garbage.
30 mins in and I don't feel like finishing the remaining 2 hours😩😩😩. What a waste
I felt that way with Christopher Nolan’s “Interstellar.” Like yeah I see where this is going and I’m not interested
Good on ya, I stopped at an hour in! 😂
@@welcomebackzach8745interstellar is perfect 10/10 but dune I gave up after 5 min. Give interstellar another try for me please.
@@welcomebackzach8745 interstellar is more focused for people who are interested in Space and Time... In that regard it is a masterpiece. Dune is just extremely boring and uninteresting
The movie felt like a massive teaser trailer for the next one. The timing of Paul's visions felt extremely frustrating too. It happened at times that put him in danger all the while the audience fully knowing he had plot armour.
Afrer hearing all the hype of dune and dune 2, i finally watched them a bit ago. Uh yeah... i legit cannot wrap my head around the INSANE hype these movies get. I've had people get mad at me because i didn't like them lol. They took it as a personal insult which is beyond weird
I find all of Denis Villeneuve's films overrated. Everyone told me to watch Sicario. It was incredibly boring.
They are. Didn't he make that film Arrival? It was so boring
They're extremely superficial
Prisoners was pretty good, but yeah, everything else is overrated in my opinion.
Blade runner was also very overrated in my opinion
Sicario 1 was good
2 out of 10. Only for the visuals. Otherwise, this film was sooo boring. It feels like paying for watching one of those demo slow motion videos to showcase an oled tv.
Even oled demo videos are better than this trash
😭😭😭💀 Bruh funniest shit I heard
I found the film was meh and forgettable.
I just watched both movies today.. I'm a huge fan of the original movie and one of the TV series adaptations but I know their true ratings, hype ratings and cult status which over the years can inflating ratings.
These two new movies are TERRIBLE. Oh WOW. Halfway through the first movie I thought did I get a table reading of the script version or something. A bunch of currently popular actors just being themselves. Granted that is an acting style but I am just not used to almost everyone using that style at the same time. I've never seen the lead actor who played Paul so I have no reference but I REALLY think that was a casting mistake. Same goes for Zendywhatever. She nails musical roles but standard acting roles. Sorry Spidey fans.
Man I love Brolin!! He's had some amazing roles. Yea this isn't one of them...
Jason Momoa ALWAYS plays Jason Momoa.... Actors who play themselves in movies is fine as long as the role fits them which it didn't here. Never saw Duncan Idaho on screen. It was Momoa every time.
Rebecca Ferguson as Jessica was GOOD! She nailed the role.
Dave Bautista nailed his role and if anything he could have gone even crazier with it but nailed it just the same.
Stellan skarsgard as the Baron. More calculating and less crazy. It worked.
Everyone seems to loves this movie so I guess it's a me problem. Wouldn't be the first time and not the last for sure.
While I enjoy your objectivity I have a much harsher opinion of the film. It failed to constructed an understandable narrative of why things happened coupled with empty characters it was impossible to become emotionally invested in. Both of these make the film along with its long run time an uninteresting experience I cannot see myself revisiting. While Dune isn't bad in the sense of being unpleasant it fails to generate any excitement or attachment which places it solidly 3/10 for me
Beautifully said. It’s a shame so many of these directors who are renowned for their attention to detail fail to apply much of that creative energy toward character motivations, character development, exploring the film’s themes in depth, etc
They seem to only be interested in hyper-focusing their intellect to craft extremely striking visuals at the expense of anything of tangible or emotional substance
Here after part2: They're just another regular, shallow, boilerplate, play-safe, correct, self-absorbed, cashgrab blockbusters... moreover they are not good films on their own either... Dune deserved better. Dune isn't Star Wars or Marvel. I would rather see mid-budget animated series that would go deeper, more into the psychedelia and weirdness of Dune and even took some of Lynch, Jodorowsky, Moebius, Giger, Foss etc. and all the 60s/70s...
Such a lazy, empty, hollow, underwhelming movie. DV doesn't do sci-fi well just so plain n sterile scene to scene w/awful to no character development. Many have commented how they couldn't care less abt the characters bc nothing was shown nor given that would make us care abt their fate or actions one way or another?
The Baron is a caricature simply shown as a floating fat dude in a latex suit spouting evil platitudes, the Beast Rabban does absolutely nothing, I didn't even know Piter is in the movie bc he does nothing but just die, Feyd is missing, Yueh is embarrassingly cast as some stereotypical token Asian guy w/broken English completely missing/fudging the entire crucial subplot of a traitor in the house n his seething personal motivation, Duke Leto n Lady Jessica r a pale comparison to the regal command of Prochnow n beauty n elegance of Annis, the fat dude as Thufir is a joke w/no clue on what's a Mentat, the Reverend Mother hides under a veil the whole time shrouding her god awful acting, Bardem mumbles his entire way thru the movie, n Chalamet n Zendaya look like high school kids acting in a high school play. Just plain poor casting n acting all around. 🤢🤕😳
The acting in here is way better than any previous adaptation, the lynch movie was ass. It's an adaptation, their gonna be stuff that's cut like the Harkonens or small minor plotlines. And no, Denis Villeneuve isn't lazy at sci-fi, in fact he's one of the best working in the sci-fi genre for film. Arrival, BR2049, and now dune, maybe it just wasn't for you
@@criticizedreviews1081 as WWlad commented below - "The problem is that the movie really does not do much with the runtime. The movie should have spent that time introducing the Padishah Emperor, Princess Irulan Feyd Rautha Raban (all of which will play huge role in part two) and more time for characters like doc. Yueh, Piter de Vries, Thufir Hawat, who play a huge role but get no screen time. Instead we get painfully long shots of people staring, drawn out out visions that repeat themselves and served only as a footage for trailer, Chani apearing in Pauls vission for 5th time staring... Such a pointless waste of time that should have been spent on worldbuilding and important characters. I might be alone in this but this really pissed me off to the point I rolled my eyes multiple times because I really liked some aspects but despised these "wasteful" scenes that could have instead be used to immerse you into the world of Dune."
This DV adaptation/remake (perfume commercial) is trash imo n a wishful greedy studio money-grab like most remakes/reboots of original film classics (Ghostbusters Vag 2016, Terminator Dark Turd, The Last Jedi Abbortion, etc.). I really wanted to like it as a fan of FH's Dune, but it was plain empty, hollow, completely miscast, n an embarrassment to the universe of Dune.
I've always criticised Denis Villeneuve as lazy and emotionally hollow ... he's always depending on big empty spaces and dressing up his laziness as pretentious minimalism to make shallow pseudo intellectual audience go wow but does a boring job with the dialogues and characters ...
2049 was really emotionally lazy and hollow too but he's able to disguise the flaws by copying some of Ridley Scott's well established cyberpunk looks to make it seem more interesting ...
Villeneuve's target audience are the instagram clowns. Whatever visual fluff he makes is only for them.
It's so depressing that I wouldn't watch this movie again even if you paid me $100.
As a huge Dune books fan it honestly kinda warms my heart finding people with a similar opinion in this comment section, thanks guys!
There does not exist a more boring movie in the world, I feel robbed of my time by these garbage one expression wannabe actors.
Miserable waste of money. I now feel a little better knowing that I’m not the only one who thought this.
When I wen to the film I literally fell asleep and woke up when some explosion happened.
10/10 nap!
Not worth the money though.
I tried to like this movie but I couldn’t. It has very cool concepts especially the voice. But it’s pacing and storytelling is awful. I feel like they just hired all these big actors to make people think the movie would be good but honestly it’s disappointing
Most boring movie i've seen in the last 10 years
Denis V is an overrated filmmaker. Even his best -- I loved, despite being atleast 20 min. too long, Blade Runner 2049 -- but Dune 1 and 2 were full of inconsistencies, and less true to the novels than Lynch's 1984 effort -- even as flawed as IT was.
Super overrated. I was down to get into this movie and after watching it I’m still waiting. Timmy is lame and dead eyed. Oscar Isaac was great and the only character with some personality is Jason Mamoas. MJ kept showing up but did absolutely nothing. The “visuals” are just sand, ships and explosions, none of which are anything new. Of course a big budget Hollywood movie is gonna “look good”. That doesn’t make it a good movie because it looks great in iMax.
that movie was bad. I don`t know post marvel movies are as bad as the marvel movies. This movie is very bad. It just looks nice but the story telling is bad. And can someone explain me why they fighting with swords. They have powerfull tools to cut through metal but don`t use it as a weapon, fucking brilliant.
Tell me you didn't pay attention without telling me
Finally! This was not good at all! Bad screenplay. Waste of the cast. Paul was miscast. Relied on cgi to make up for the script. Big fan of the books. Liked the Lynch movie much better.
Its not just lack of focus, its deliberate lack of focus. Paul is given lines that belong to Lady Jessica in the novel, hogging all the glory.
I did not like the movie. It's boring, the characters are flat, the story is clunky and the directing is mixed.
Dennis is overrated. He has done some good movies, but this isn't one of them chief. What a huge letdown.
5/10.
This movie drags for the entire runtime And it’s a build up to nothing that ever happens its way to exposition heavy I just found movies incredibly boring But they had great visuals
This movie is super boring, too long at times (too many times) and is about a boy who has dreams that comes true. So Lame and i Imagine part 2 will be the same.
He nailed it on the head. Character development and pacing was off on the movie. How many zendaya shots did we need of her gazing and walking instead of a great dialog scene for those who haven't read the book. The visuals are outstanding but you still need the Character development to drive the story. The relationship between Jessica and Paul was the strongest part of the movie in my opinion. We didn't get any emperor scenes but plenty of chani gazing at Paul over and over. I thought the Duncan escape in the coper was new not in the book. It was a nice action scene. But I also wanted more scenes of the Baron. Like the guy said in the video a missed opportunity. Still I would recommend people go see DUNE because it isn't a super hero movie and something different
I don't get why people drool over the costumes and cinematography of this film. I'ts all shades of gray, looks like a gross 2000's fps.
it is BORING!!!!!! I watched 10-15 minute of the movie and it is BORRINNGG
I went with my 8 friends after watching IMDB rating. And it sucked. Everyone was just trolling who gave the idea. 😅
It was refreshing to find a video that doesn't just gush over how perfect this movie is! I found it a bit long myself.
I agree with you that the acting was first-rate and that the movie in general was epic in scale.
I feel much better after reading the comments here, can’t believe took me few days to watch this boring movie i feel like this was still a waste of time for me (just my opinion). Decided to watch after checking the imdb rating (8/10 😂) I personally now won’t trust this rate anymore..
This movie was so overrated I don’t get the hype for this movie
God, this movie is so bad, so terribly bad
The movie is trash because zendeya and the other main character are meh
6 out of 10 was generous. It was plain unenjoyable.
This movie had no interesting characters, you didn't care about, way too long and boring. The only action scene was less than 3 minutes. People are only calling this movie a masterpiece because of special effects
It's not for the mainstream audience
Dune is a masterpiece, and definitely an arthouse film.
@@aryankaushik93 it's scant plot and none existent themes too watered down to be for an intellectual audience. its a dull epic fail, for the book fans ond movie goers.
What you said….but the opposite for me. I don’t give 2 shits about special effects, I was engrossed every second of it and I loved the character development. To each their own.
It's "trendy" to praise it as a masterpiece. That's for the sheep casual mentality. Analysing this movie, no matter who directed it, it was just not that great. No character development, characters have like "brain dead" acting, no emotional pull, no story execution to pull and interest the audience, the atmosphere and areas feel too "clean" not very realistic as if nobody really lives there. It's like someone trying to fix a car but doesn't want to get their hands dirty. The "messiah" kid has no acting ability or any sort of charisma, I can go on and on. I felt nothing for whatever happened in the movie. I didn't care who died or survived. I just didn't care at all. I have no desire to rewatch it because nothing really major happens and its a bit boring. It makes me not care for the sequel.
For those people that have never heard of Dune and have never read the incredible high level Dune books, this movie is fine as a new story of adventure for those people.
But for us Dune fans who love the genius of Herbert's writing, prose and story telling, these new Dune movies are nothing more than the Disney Star Wars versions of Dune.
I personally could not stand them. They were shallow, diverged massively from the true story and point of Dune, had poor casting choices and as a whole were mostly silly.
There was also significant pandering to Woke Politics throughout the first two movies which I found highly distasteful and an insult to the Herbert legacy.
They made Lady Jessica too weepy in my opinion, something that didn;t sit well in the scenes where she's tough and kickass and using one-liners.
She is tough when with people
And weepy when alone
Not an unusual behavior
She cries by herself in at least 12 lines of the first book
It's overrated, overhyped and over promoted! It was really hard to watch and I couldn't even finish it bored me to death!
I'm not a sci-fi guy but I know film. The movie was technically well done but I found the film dull and flat. Even the actors who are some of my favorites seem a little lost in the darkness. I tried but I just don't get the love.
Overrated. I read the books multiple times, and it ruined the movie for me. They left out soooo f'ing much of the books out, I wonder if someone who hasn't read them even truly 'gets' the deeper themes and meanings.
Aside from the visuals (which are great), the 2001 scifi miniseries did a much better job.
Thanks for checking my review. You're spot on, as someone who hasn't read the book, there are many aspects in the film that flew over me. What annoys me the most is that the film never develops the characters in any substantial way as well the ending, that felt like it cut as the 3rd act was about to begin.
@@HollywoodTown Yes, those are exactly the parts that were left out. If you have the time, watch the 2001 scifi miniseries (here on yt). If you can ignore the over-the-top costumes, it portrays the story a lot better.
/watch?v=wXEkoO35MyI
The parts from 15:00-18:00 and 46:00-49:00 give more of the Harkonnen side of the story than the whole 2001 movie together.
Agreed
Villneuve filmed entire book with all plots, but studio made him cut down to 2.5 hours. First part should be at least 3.5, and i would even cut out battle scene.
But, but it was true to the story...
Lol, messing with you. It really infuriates me, all the reviews that say that. You are exactly right!
I did like the Lynch version the best, but it was for reasons unrelated to the story. I liked the pacing and gritty/demented artistic style from Lynch.
The mini-series is the best representation and I really enjoyed it as well. The Lynch version is just more nostalgic, since I watched it as a kid.
This is such a boring ass film ultimately
6/10 is being overly nice. As movie being directed by a reputable director and a existing novel that lays out the story for you, for me it's a 4.5/10. Fails to even have basic character development and story execution to pull the audience, you know, storytelling in film 101.
Overrated!
Thanks for checking out my review. 100%, solid movie but no near the masterpiece that fans are raving about.
Check out the 'Spice Diver' edit of the 1984 Lynch version. It is FAR superior to the Villeneuve trash.
I made it 50 minutes in and it sucked ass...if its better than this version then I will skip dune completely.
Should have been called Tim
Reasons I feel this movie is extremely overrated (having read the book):
Characterization, Acting & Casting: The characters lacked 3 dimensional depth. Apart from Oscar Isaac's portrayal I believe nobody added value to the characters - you cared for the character. I can say that nobody would really be emotionally invested in the other characters. Jason Momoa and Bautista who were cast in the film, were the worst choices for those characters. Jason Momoa acts very similarly in each of his movies which takes away from the character because it feels like Jason Momoa and not Duncan.
Dialogues: Dialogues fall flat and feels like recitals of Shakespeare. What I mean is that they lack the conviction to pull those lines off which as it is weren't written well. That lame scene between Duncan and Paul about having muscle is a prime example. The scene blocking was off and they could have taken creative liberty with something more meaningful. Acting again was subpar.
Editing: Some of the worst editing I have seen in my life. The scenes all feel disjointed. There is no flow. The characters who die in the film just seem like any other casualty (which has also to do with the characterization and dialogues, etc.). This felt like a documentation rather than a cinematic adventure.
Music: I believe only Nolan knows how to get the right type of music out of Hans. While many consider Hans overrated, he has generally gotten it right to create a mood and sense of bringing the story together. Even if you take a movie like X-men: Dark Phoenix which is just as horrible as the rest of the Fox produced x-men movies, was whatever good it was because of the music by Hans and his team.
The percussion elements were good however in the movie and maybe it was a conscious choice to keep the music way in the background whereas Nolan likes it to be loud in his movies. While I agree the music should never overpower the story and film, to control the pacing in such a long movie, music is a good medium to do so.
Cinematography & VFX: Brilliant. I believe the highlight of the film is its visual representation. Comparing to the book it has captured the vastness and the stylised elements (not all of course). But it was definitely worth seeing in the theatres because of this reason. I probably wouldn't be able to sit through this movie watching it on my laptop or TV.
I agree with this video about having this movie and its sequel shot together. The film is not a masterpiece by any means. It's sad to see pseudo-intellectuals say it is (not criticising people who did actually enjoy it). The book does portray metaphorical aspects throughout and its the journey of the reader to absorb it and ponder over them. This movie is something you play in the background because neither is it entertaining or thought provoking. However the book sequels get more interesting and mind blowing. Hopefully the second part of the first book can make up for it.
It is not meant as a rant. I appreciate the hard work that has gone into the movie and the people who have enjoyed it. This book is anyway one of the most difficult ones to bring to the screens and its inspiring that many visual elements were marvellous. Cheers.
Completely agree with everything you said, especially the editing. You can literally swap the sequencing of the first half of the movie and it would make no difference
Never read the book but the year 2000 miniseries did the best job telling the story. Compared to 1984 version and Dune part 1&2. I honestly didn't know just how much information was missing until i seen the miniseries.
Also, the best weirding way methods i've seen too.
I feel like character development is a lost art in modern films.
I think the visuals were the worst, besides the mother superior spaceship arriving in caladan scene, everything else is bland and boring, it should have more noise, props, to make the world look lived in, populated, but everything looks sanitized, not even the sand looks like sand, eveything is too clean. The brutalist architecture is interesting but the mninalism inside the buildings are boring, when i read the books I thought the visual would look more like a blend of fantasy and sci-fi. The syfy tv show had the right mood.
The book is good. The David Lynch film was a brave effort which didn't fully succeed. This film is boring. The actors are wooden. The photography and music are mediocre. For quality modern science fiction The Expanse tv series is vastly superior to this film. All just my opinion, of course.
Dune is heavily overrated.
Thanks for checking out my review man. Definitely, this movie had a-lot of potential, but it is squandered on many scenes that plod along and don't go anywhere at the best of times.
The 1984 version is better.
Not a terrible film but yes it is greatly overrated in my opinion. Almost zero character development. Many of the support characters could easily be replaced with cardboard standees.
Thanks for checking out my review. Spot on with the 0 character development point, it was a shame that they didn't even bother to develop theses characters, given the wealth of acting talent on-display.
In Denis Villeneuve's Dune, Paul is no longer a one-dimensional ‘hero’. You have a greater understanding of the cost of his prescience and what scares him so much about the Golden path. He's flawed, he’s young and he’s afraid. He lashes out as opposed to simply being stoically heroic.
Paul’s path is all about three things: survival, power and revenge. His family is betrayed, his father and friends are slain, and he and his mother are left for dead in the desert. His initial motivation is to survive, and in accordance with this they find refuge with the Fremen. The film ends with him being forced to adjust, to adapt to an entirely new and different society.
Lol this movie is boring bruh.
Why does everyone love the new Dune movies so much?
I too found this film vastly over-rated. At best, a pseudo-faithful adaptation of the source material that comes with many (many) flaws, big and small. I have to disagree about that Ferguson woman. She was a terrible Jessica. Always seems on the verge of bawling and crying. Also seems lost in her own house kind of vibe. No good. Many of the IMPORTANT secondary characters are barely in the movie. At all. IE, Yueh, Thufir, De Vries etc. Yea, I liked the ornithopters too, but, the movie itself? Average at best. And even that might be a bit of a stretch to give it that much credit. The (overall) good acting, FX, and technical competence save the film from disaster. These elements however, do not make up for a basically poorly told story, dodgy creative decisions, bad pacing, and muddled world-building. I don't remember the sound track at all either despite everyone saying how awesome it was supposed to be.
Great visually but I cared little for any of the characters. Dialogue was weak. Actors had little to sink their teeth into because they they came in behind the visuals and music.
The replayability comment nailed it, I enjoyed the movie but have no desire to watch it again. But, I'm happy to reread the book multiple times.
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compare with star war EP 1-6 Lucas Dune is suck only CG was good
Is this the best modern cinema has to offer?
This movie actually had my attention for about 3/4 of its run time. I liked the slow world building, the very unique and interesting visuals and the characters were interesting enough. Then comes when Paul and his mother escape to the Fremen and the story then is just a generic bore. It gets predictable and no real interesting story points happen. Just another protagonist on the run for the evil empire. A formula we've seen a hundred times already.
bad, boring and incomprehensible movie
The world/universe of dune is very bland and just not that much going on to hold your interest. I liked the "voice" concept as well, it's pretty good although one can argue it's similar to force manipulation like in starwars. However, it still felt fresh somehow. The bad thing is that its too long and it doesn't use that time properly but it's wasted on whispered dialogue and slow pacing. Overall, it's okayish but I don't see what all the fuss is about
Even that aspect was conveyed better in David Lynch's FAR more entertaining movie.
Boring movie, not nearly as interesting or dynamic as the original. Boring actors, dull dialogue, washed out cinematography
A good movie consist from three elements, a good director, good actors, and a good script Denis Dune doesn't contain any of these….
The movie is also full of men unfriendly propaganda, the main character
“Paul Atreides” is portrayed in Dune as an insecure, anti hero character
and that doesn’t match the original story of Dune at all…
Better watch Jodorowsky’s making of Dune documentary first, then read Jodorowsky’s Dune film script, and in your head you will see a much better Dune
You also can watch (for free!) the 1984 extended version of Dune called:
“Dune 1984 Alternative Edition Redux edited by Spicediver” that is ten times better than the newer Denis Dune….!
Ive enjoyed the first part until the attack and the death of the dad. After that … god it was dreadful
This movie should have had some sort of narration in the opening scenes so we'll understand what's going on.
better watch on UA-cam: "Dune 1984 Alternative Edition Redux edited by Spicediver" it has narration in the opening scenes and is so much better version of Dune
Glad to see I'm not thw only one who thinks the movie is bad, it has amazing shots yes but it's still a boring movies cinephiles would love to rub in your face whenever they got the chance
Snore fest.
Boring, couldn’t finish the viewing 🫢
As Dune fan i played all games readed all books including son of Frank Herbert books. Watched old and dune serial. This is just boring make no sense movie.
I absolutely agree with you, except when it comes to the score. I honestly really liked that for this movie, Hans Zimmer has taken a more abstract take on the music and it gives Dune this mystic feeling, but I completely understand why some people wouldn't like it, as again, it's very abstract.
The score didn't do it for me especially because I think Brian Tyler's Children of Dune score was exceedingly better. This was just noise. There is a grandness that Zimmer's score lacked.
David Lynch's movie had a FAR more iconic and memorable score.
I liked it. Saw it 3 times already. 🤷♂️
Yup, it's overrated, there's nothing there. Also Avatar is overrated but the organic lighted creatures are cool.
God bless.
it should have been tv series
Dude was boring as f 🙊
What I found hilarious about the Dune movie was that House Harkonnen went "hey, let's all dress up like bad guys" lol
Agree. 6/10.
The average moviegoer will find it boring, slow and dull.
Yes, chicky nuggies and fries are the equivalent of the preference of average "moviegoers" these days, a sad reality.
In the wake of Mad Max Fury Road, and the arresting beauty of Miller's desert in that film, there's no way I can compliment Dune's cinematography as among the best of the decade.
I just hate the casting.
i pity the cast. they are blamed for their portrayal of the characters when they wouldn't be hired or kept on board if the studio and director didn't like what they where getting. however it's an annoyance that popular actors were hired to get butts in seat because the movie is extremely dull and no one would see it otherwise.
i dont have an opinion on the score, the music is not important if the story is so lacking in engagement. the blaring music seems to try its best to distract you that youre getting boring dreadful empty story.
denis told this story poorly. its like its only 8 pages of plot. he wasted too much time on jessica and paul in the dessert, characters staring into nothingness, pauls visions of zendaya to keep her fans interested and long landscape shots. too much hype for a director who claims to love the story while watering it down so much that the plot and themes are practically non existent.
The Lord of The Rings and The Godfather pt 1 and 2..that’s my standard. Those are masterpieces. I will not call a movie a masterpiece unless it fits that standard. I don’t buy the “well don’t judge movies that harshly” excuse. If it could be done back then, it can be done now. This movie wasn’t horrible, but it is by no means a masterpiece. And also, this is just personal preference, but just like with Mad Max, I don’t find a desert to be a visually compelling place to hold any kind of fantasy story..hard to know where you are when literally everything looks the same
so boring too much showing the main character face. not much story or even fewer action
Everything HT said was accurate. But for me, as someone who saw the original '84 film in the theater, the main issue was that this version simply re-told '84 script with no significant improvement. The only purpose I see for this movie to exist is to re-introduce the characters with new actors so subsequent sequels can be made. Sad, really.
"various planets"
space empire not found...
I love Villenueve’s movies, Arrival is my one of my favorites alien movie bit this movie i just don’t get the hype i think it was just good not great
I read the books and this movie left out anything interesting.
I actually didnt rly like how this film was shot. It have amazing looking scenes but its so grimy looking for sum reason, combine that with the crazy visuals that they are trying to pull off it comes off as a mismatched "deep" painting that sumone just squirted all over and called it done
1. Casting was the worst. Timothee Chalamet and Rebecca Ferguson were uniformly terrible in portraying their assigned characters. I have liked Ferguson well in other films, so I did not expect this. Jason Momoa played a fairly good rendition of Jason Momoa. Zendaya has no intersection with acting.
Kyle McLachlan, Francesca Annis, Richard Jordan, and Sean Young were far better. At least ten of the other actors (Patrick Stewart as Gurney Halleck, for instance), gave performances superior to the weak porridge presented in the 2021 version.
2. Direction: did Denis even read the original book, or did he merely glance at Cliff's Notes? Was his subjugation to woke culture so much more important?
3. Writing: too slow, too boring, too opaque, largely lacking in motivation.
4. Art: I liked the ornithopters and the sand worms. Otherwise, this was pretty much a strikeout.
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