“That’s Batman.” I always felt that B:TAS and TNBA were comparable to the point where TNBA managed to continue some dark as well as fun stories that met its predecessor’s standards.
The thing about Killer Croc is that he wasn't dumb in his first appearance, Vendetta. He was calculating and menacing. I'll always be grateful for "And I threw a rock at him!" in Almost Got 'Em (not actually Croc), but the dumbing down of the character was a peculiar choice. It's nice that TNBA course corrected, but the redesign (not to mention teaming up with Baby Doll) really undermines it. I also hated that Mr. Freeze continued to be an antagonist following the events of Sub-Zero.
The thing is, that wasn't Croc who said he "threw a rock at him", that was Batman. However, I get why Batman would portray him that way as he did have a dumb brute sort of appearance, even though he was calculating and menacing in "Vendetta". Croc was never a joke in any way, but there's an in-between regarding both worlds here, I think.
@@tornadochaser2457 I pointed out that it wasn't Croc; it does say more about Batman that he perceived him that way (and the others, too that his "stupidity" didn't give away the disguise). Maybe he didn't get enough screen time, but he never felt the same after Vendetta. He wasn't bad in sideshow, but it wasn't the greatest episode, and the only other appearance I remember is Trial, where he's portrayed as more of a punchline.
@@greyonekenobi19 I wouldn't say he was a punchline in Trial, he was simply "there". He didn't do anything to standout. In Sideshow, he was forceful and desperate, but it felt perfectly in-character. In Vendetta, he was calculating and menacing because he had the time and resources to carry out a solid plan, as well as the motivation to ensure the plan stayed on track, without possible outbursts or a lax attitude to undermine things.
@@tornadochaser2457 "Punchline" may not be the right word, but some of the other villains are dismissive. When Joker fires his machine gun after the lights go out, this exchange happens: Scarface: Don't... you'll hit Croc! Joker: What's your point? Batman dispatches him fairly easily after this. Croc also says "hit him with a rock!" during the trial in reference to Batman. It's funny, but it's a callback to "dumb" Croc. Aside from Almost Got 'Em, this really seems like the episode that cemented Croc's reputation.
@@greyonekenobi19 I think the Joker could easily do that to anyone, he definitely might be more inclined to do that to Croc as his "dumbness" makes him come off as less intimidating, but I can see him doing that to anyone else for sure. I agree with the other episodes cementing Croc a bit more as a dumb guy, but his possible ferocity, strength, and ruthlessness make him scary to me regardless, and I'm not bothered by his portrayal, it actually makes him standout more as a unique entity, being nicely diverse in a vast line-up of villains. To each his own, of course.
I loved this season! It was cool to see a continuation of Batman TAS with Dick as Nightwing, Tim as Robin and Barbara given more screen time. I’m still not a fan of the redesign of the Joker but everyone else’s looked cool. Not to mention this season opened the door for Batman teaming up with Superman.
Remember Mr. McGreg (with a leg for an arm, and an arm for a leg) from The Simpsons? If he was a Batman character, Vee would be able to make a 30 min video about him, and it would be interesting.
Poison Ivy got an explanation in the tie-in comics if I remember correctly- she isn't the "real" Poison Ivy, but one of her plant clones come to life, which is also why she has superpowers (and, indeed, why she looks younger). Penguin...I guess, had plastic surgery or something.
Great video Vee, would love a pt 2, also, if you haven't checked out Cardiacs (The last of the all Joker bands?) video of their number Tarred and Feathered, Then you're really missing out.
Man, my first exposure to The Creeper was in this show, and man i really like him. Also one funny thing i was thinking about him: "Joker bootleg, made by the Joker, who is better than the Joker and scares the shit out of the Joker" Also its a shame the show didnt got more seasons, since it was planed to have more of the Creeper.
I get that SUPERMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES pushed the synergy issue of having Batman's world compatible with the Superman esthetics. The 3-part WORLD'S FINEST story arc essentially proved that TNBA was right to change the overall looks of the characters. Even the voice acting got some upgrades when the redesigned TNBA came into being. I wasn't exactly mad or agrivated. It just felt a bit odd to hear Baby Doll, Killer Croc, even Batgirl getting different voices. Regarding Joker... huh. Let's just say THANK GOD FOR BATMAN BEYOND! Course correction on their part with RETURN OF THE JOKER giving us 2 badass interpretations. Flashback Joker and Neo-Gotham Joker bothed looked great. Hey, change is inevitable.❤
I think my perfect Batman look would be the costume from the first few seasons but with the cape draped over the shoulders like in the later iterations and with the Justice League utility belt and Bat-Symbol.
Something I always wonder is when Batman is with the Justice League how is he keeping his secret identity a secret back into Gothem? Does he do what Akira Toriyama does and live a very private life with only rare public appearances.
It's a Superman episode but I agree. I love that episode too. Especially when the Gotham Rogues are baffled by Batman's added endurance and strength. 😂
I feel like people took a look at the redesigns and dismissed this season. But it was clearly done to be more in line with the Superman series which they regularly crossed over with. Everything else is still pretty top notch. And most of the designs are passable (yes, even the Joker).
7:00 like you I kind of enjoy this joker redesign. Is it my favorite no that is the Batman beyond return of the joker version. But I grew up with this version by watching the Batman/Superman animated movie so I am bias but the simplicity is a nice touch, but. I will admit he does look like a character from the DOUG show
The cartoon used 2 be canon with the Burton movies, hence why the Penguin looked that 1st. The comics tie-ins shown that Harley banged her teacher 2 pass the psychiatry exams. Either her relationship with Poison Ivy is still meant 2 be toxic, although not as toxic as with the Joker.
For me to come over love it for changing choices and characters design still okay for me. Plus: batgirl played Tara strong is pretty good by chance she really so young back then and now she really sounds like the batgirl from either comics from the adventures of Batman or New 52 stories that i use reading up along with rebirth comics.
Batman TAS is a banger. Loved so many episodes of it. It truly is a DIAMOND 💎. Mainly because along with the action and drama there was always a lesson to learn in morality. Kevin Conroy will of course be the best Batman ever. RIP.✊🏽💖🖤🦇
Finally, someone who doesn't hate the TNBA Joker design! It's got a lot of personality, despite the toned down features. A lot less human than the other characters, really leaning into this pale giggling lunatic. His smile is still uncomfortably wide, his frame is a little more angular and gangly, and his eyes are haunting and unpredictable. You can't really tell what he's thinking when he's staring you dead on with a fixed grimace. That being said, the Justice League amalgam of the two really was the peak design.
While not my favorite Batman animated series, I still prefer the previous one, even the 2004 animated series, when I think of the DCAU, this animated series comes to mind. Maybe cause I see the art style pop up more growing up.
The new Batman adventures is a great and is underrated addition to Batman the animated series TNBA is one of the most mature darkest series and I'm surprised for a show that's for kids it gets away with a lot of dark and mature things over the edge is still one of the most beautiful and darkest episodes in the entire series till this day and once again IS A FREAKING KIDS SHOW
Yea I want part two and I’d like to know what do you think about the ummm strange relationship between Barbra and Bruce and baby doll and crock … cause I was uneasy about them both … loved seeing their stories unfold though
I think New Batman Adventures isn't as bad as people make it out to be My only problem is some of the models look AWFUL(Killer Croc,Riddler,Catwoman is a HUGE downgrade from her underrated BTAS design Two-Face and Mr Freeze's heads are too small etc)
Fun Fact: A comic crossover between BTAS and the 2012 Turtles actually explained why Scarecrow updated his look to the Season 4 design. He got spooked by the Kraang and got nightmares about them. Which is kinda funny cause the Kraang from the 2012 TMNT cartoon are not really scary and are kinda idiots. Now if it was the Kraang from the Rise of the TMNT movie, then that would make alot more sense!
I would l;ove to see more Batman, Superman, other DC animated shows, Gargoyles , Darkwing Duck, Freakazoid, Kim Possible, Sam and Max, TMNT, any animated hero series.
I always thought Kevin Convoy playing Batman at all times in this season was on propose. To me it showed how far gone Bruce was in his Batman persona. The progression of Bruce losing his identity completely, further growing into what we see in Batman Beyond.
The one thing I hate about The New Batman Adventures is the relationship between Bruce and Barbara. Bruce Timm needs to stop with his Bruce and Barbara obsession it's creepy.
Yeah that mess was just wrong and he should've just kept that to himself. Batman and Batgirl are supposed to be mentor & young underling and nothing more!
The tie-in comics actually give sn explanation of why Catwoman's hair went from Blonde to Black. Still doesn't explain why her body type looks younger tho.
I agree, I LOVE the piercing black eyes on the Joker's redesign, it's haunting and truly does justice to the terrifying, otherworldly, unordinary monster that he is. It just doesn't look quite right to not have more colour on his face though, I think I miss the red lips, though it feels that will likely take away from the starkly, baron-manner, hauntingly plain face with just demon eyes attached, that he has. The original is the classic look, and it has all the colour that's expected, you can't go wrong with that design, whereas with the redesign, it feels like you can just a 'lil bit, but in a noticeable way that never really leaves. I don't mean to go all spiritual and existential, but we should aim to have inner peace. Still, I appreciate the redesign for what it is. The Scarecrow is the one indisputable improvement. I only miss the original design just a little bit, and that's due to missing Jonathan Crane's original, big personality, not due to missing the design. Regardless, I would sacrifice that instantly for this design's creepiness and haunting, zombie-like, and frightful appearance alone. One thing that I think a lot of people miss, is that Harley Quinn's and Harvey Dent's seeming happy endings are abandoned, logically, in favour of more, standard stories with the two as villains. Ultimately, they actually end up in more psychologically damaging situations than ever before. The Ventriloquist ends up getting a happy ending instead. On the other side of the spectrum, Arnold Wesker was actually the most sympathetic when attempting to reform throughout his redemptive episode, as his psychological struggle is palpable. I'm not sure if people realise the red sky nights came from the opening of both the original and this show (so... the same opening!) having a red sky - I mean, perhaps it can be assumed, but I've never once heard it be said.
Batman: The Animated Series is the project that got me interested in the Batman character. Since then other Batman shows came out but non of them staked up against the 90s animated series. Kevin Conroy is the goat when it comes to Batman. But in live action, that crown goes to Christian Bale. His version of Batman reminded me of Conroy's Batman every step of the way. One of them was the emotional aspect. Comparing it to Conroy, Bale nailed that part. He nailed a lot when it comes to Batman. Batman: The Animated Series has since become my favorite cartoon series. Scooby-Doo: Where Are You and Superman: The Animated Series follow close behind.
I never liked the redesigns of the villains (Especially Joker with his beedy little eyes). Exception would be Scarecrow who became way scarier and less Wizard of Oz. Also, for some reason TNBA was localized, while the OG show wasn’t, so the voices/Language changing felt weird. However, mostly I didn’t like how they made Batman more careless. It didn’t help that they always showed the crossover with Superman between TAS ending and TNBA starting. Imho that crossover tries way too hard to idealize Superman by vilifying Batman. This carried over in the Nightwing episode where he describes why he left. I just wish they had at least given a proper reason, like someone close to him dying or something that would explain why he suddenly became more aggressive.
Why couldn't a batman superman just be a direct remake if the cartoon meeting. Maybe fluff action if its to short. The heros meet fight there biggest rogues. And the best batman one liner from a cartoon of all things ever.
If I was to make a tiers list of the redesigns I would label them: I’m fine with either designs, Good but I prefer the original, a very good design but I’d rather it be a new character then a redesign, ok but something’s off (uncanny valley), not a good redesign. Personally I can’t think of any redesigns I prefer over the original, but that could be a bit of stubbornness on my part (for one reason or another). In case anyone was wondering, I would put the Joker in the ’ok but something’s off’ category (there’s some videos on UA-cam of TNBAS clips where someone did a recoloring of the Joker and it was a major improvement) and the Scarecrow in the ‘good but I’d rather it be a new character’. For me, while the design is really good, it doesn’t fit the character or the look of the Scarecrow. I feel it would fit a Grim Reaper themed character or zombie themed like Solomon Grundy better. The Scarecrow, meanwhile, shouldn’t be the personification of fear, but rather a being that can cause fear in people with the use of his toxin.
As a kid (and an adult) I loved the fact it continued the animated series. I hated the "redesign's" of the characters they knew what they had drawn was a success.
So the change of Bruce here is an evolution of the character. Even tho it is not outright stated, Batman is struggling separating the two to the point of hes Batman 24/7 due to his heighten sense of responsibility for it as he got older. Bruce Wayne as an adult was his facade. Facades fade when the dominant personality emerges. It becomes harder to shift.
While the Joker's redesign isn't as bad as some make it out to be, they still could've done a better job with the change. There's some actual fan redesigns out there that does a better job blending Joker's BTAS look with TNBA.
I didn’t like the move to make Killer Crock more reptilian. I guess I always saw him a circus strongman with a skin condition who really leans into his gimmick, rather than a literal lizard man.
The show generally seemed more unrealistic - In addition to Killer Croc not being a man with a skin condition, but instead, simply feeling like a reptile, Poison Ivy had all-out, inhuman, green skin, the Joker has piercing black eyes, Mr. Freeze is a head in a jar (though this relates to character evolution, not character design), the sky is always red at night, Alfred, Commissioner Gordon, and The Ventriloquist have black dots for eyes, and Catwoman seemingly has pale white skin in costume (it's never stated that she wears make-up, and it doesn't feel like it's necessarily, automatically assumed either). The angular character designs, though obviously being in-keeping with Superman: The Animated Series', distinctly feel less naturally human, though the colour palette actually is more photo-realistic, however. The Bat Signal also became cartoonish in its large size.
While i always thought as a matter of plot and story, btas was far superior, i still liked the new batman adventures, it was a great show despite it flaws But i just absolutely HATED some of it's redesigns, all the villains got done dirty except the scarcrow, which was a massive improvement, i also like how they changed selina's hair, and the new batsuit was great, but man i hated what they did to alfred, batgirl, harvey bollock, the female characters specificaly in this show scared me, they'd always have that creepy smile on their face all the time, i dont know if it's a cheap animation trick but man i did not like it Overall, tnba was fine as a follow up to the great btas, had some flaws but still good, better than getting nothing, i was finding myself empty after finishing the tas for the first time, i was desperate for new bruce timl batman content
Batgirl/Barbara Gordon is waifu material in this show XD she's an amazingly beautiful redhead, she's smart, she's brave and she's sassy. I love her and would marry her. She's so perfect.
Ngl, I didn't like most of the new character designs in the New Adventures. Nightwing is the best. However the way all the women are drawn exactly the same use to bother me. Batman was bigger and colder.
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Mad Love still blows my mind. It's so psychologically terrifying and acts as a perfect cautionary tale.
“That’s Batman.”
I always felt that B:TAS and TNBA were comparable to the point where TNBA managed to continue some dark as well as fun stories that met its predecessor’s standards.
The thing about Killer Croc is that he wasn't dumb in his first appearance, Vendetta. He was calculating and menacing. I'll always be grateful for "And I threw a rock at him!" in Almost Got 'Em (not actually Croc), but the dumbing down of the character was a peculiar choice. It's nice that TNBA course corrected, but the redesign (not to mention teaming up with Baby Doll) really undermines it.
I also hated that Mr. Freeze continued to be an antagonist following the events of Sub-Zero.
The thing is, that wasn't Croc who said he "threw a rock at him", that was Batman. However, I get why Batman would portray him that way as he did have a dumb brute sort of appearance, even though he was calculating and menacing in "Vendetta". Croc was never a joke in any way, but there's an in-between regarding both worlds here, I think.
@@tornadochaser2457 I pointed out that it wasn't Croc; it does say more about Batman that he perceived him that way (and the others, too that his "stupidity" didn't give away the disguise). Maybe he didn't get enough screen time, but he never felt the same after Vendetta. He wasn't bad in sideshow, but it wasn't the greatest episode, and the only other appearance I remember is Trial, where he's portrayed as more of a punchline.
@@greyonekenobi19 I wouldn't say he was a punchline in Trial, he was simply "there". He didn't do anything to standout. In Sideshow, he was forceful and desperate, but it felt perfectly in-character. In Vendetta, he was calculating and menacing because he had the time and resources to carry out a solid plan, as well as the motivation to ensure the plan stayed on track, without possible outbursts or a lax attitude to undermine things.
@@tornadochaser2457 "Punchline" may not be the right word, but some of the other villains are dismissive. When Joker fires his machine gun after the lights go out, this exchange happens:
Scarface: Don't... you'll hit Croc!
Joker: What's your point?
Batman dispatches him fairly easily after this. Croc also says "hit him with a rock!" during the trial in reference to Batman. It's funny, but it's a callback to "dumb" Croc. Aside from Almost Got 'Em, this really seems like the episode that cemented Croc's reputation.
@@greyonekenobi19 I think the Joker could easily do that to anyone, he definitely might be more inclined to do that to Croc as his "dumbness" makes him come off as less intimidating, but I can see him doing that to anyone else for sure. I agree with the other episodes cementing Croc a bit more as a dumb guy, but his possible ferocity, strength, and ruthlessness make him scary to me regardless, and I'm not bothered by his portrayal, it actually makes him standout more as a unique entity, being nicely diverse in a vast line-up of villains. To each his own, of course.
This season has the most iconic batman TAS moments for me
That Scarecrow use to scare the crap out of me when I was a kid
I loved this season! It was cool to see a continuation of Batman TAS with Dick as Nightwing, Tim as Robin and Barbara given more screen time. I’m still not a fan of the redesign of the Joker but everyone else’s looked cool. Not to mention this season opened the door for Batman teaming up with Superman.
I miss the original dcau riddler
Love both Batman TAS, The new Batman Adventures and Batman the Brave and the Bold
The new scarecrow look seems like it would fit The Batman from 2004 very well.
Right?!
Remember Mr. McGreg (with a leg for an arm, and an arm for a leg) from The Simpsons? If he was a Batman character, Vee would be able to make a 30 min video about him, and it would be interesting.
What a wonderfully random reference.
Poison Ivy got an explanation in the tie-in comics if I remember correctly- she isn't the "real" Poison Ivy, but one of her plant clones come to life, which is also why she has superpowers (and, indeed, why she looks younger).
Penguin...I guess, had plastic surgery or something.
Wow 🎉
Tim Drake felt like Kevin from Home Alone as Robin to me
Great video Vee, would love a pt 2, also, if you haven't checked out Cardiacs (The last of the all Joker bands?) video of their number Tarred and Feathered, Then you're really missing out.
IMO the best redesign is Scarecrow
Man, my first exposure to The Creeper was in this show, and man i really like him.
Also one funny thing i was thinking about him:
"Joker bootleg, made by the Joker, who is better than the Joker and scares the shit out of the Joker"
Also its a shame the show didnt got more seasons, since it was planed to have more of the Creeper.
Scarecrow’s redesign is great
I loved the animated series
I get that SUPERMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES pushed the synergy issue of having Batman's world compatible with the Superman esthetics. The 3-part WORLD'S FINEST story arc essentially proved that TNBA was right to change the overall looks of the characters.
Even the voice acting got some upgrades when the redesigned TNBA came into being. I wasn't exactly mad or agrivated. It just felt a bit odd to hear Baby Doll, Killer Croc, even Batgirl getting different voices.
Regarding Joker... huh. Let's just say THANK GOD FOR BATMAN BEYOND! Course correction on their part with RETURN OF THE JOKER giving us 2 badass interpretations. Flashback Joker and Neo-Gotham Joker bothed looked great. Hey, change is inevitable.❤
I think my perfect Batman look would be the costume from the first few seasons but with the cape draped over the shoulders like in the later iterations and with the Justice League utility belt and Bat-Symbol.
Something I always wonder is when Batman is with the Justice League how is he keeping his secret identity a secret back into Gothem?
Does he do what Akira Toriyama does and live a very private life with only rare public appearances.
That does seem to be the case.
DUDE I also thought Pretorious from The Mask series and Mr Freeze redesign looked super similar that sometimes I just mixed the two together at times
i loved it cause this is when it had that episode where superman poses as batman to help with crime problem in gotham when bruce goes missing
That was actually a Superman episode but same difference
@@avace917 ily
It's a Superman episode but I agree. I love that episode too. Especially when the Gotham Rogues are baffled by Batman's added endurance and strength. 😂
The was a superman episode.
Of the 4 crossovers between the 2 shows, this is the best IMHO
I feel like people took a look at the redesigns and dismissed this season. But it was clearly done to be more in line with the Superman series which they regularly crossed over with. Everything else is still pretty top notch. And most of the designs are passable (yes, even the Joker).
If memory serves, back in that episode that explored Dick’s origins, Bruce had a batsuit without the yellow logo
Yup. When he gets his second, traditional Batmobile in the flashback from "The Mechanic", he wears the suit with the black emblem as well.
I hope you're doing well vee :)
Can anyone name a Batman story that explains how the Bat cave was built and kept secret.
Batman begins
Alfred dug it out.
7:00 like you I kind of enjoy this joker redesign. Is it my favorite no that is the Batman beyond return of the joker version. But I grew up with this version by watching the Batman/Superman animated movie so I am bias but the simplicity is a nice touch, but. I will admit he does look like a character from the DOUG show
Can you make a video about the evolution of scarecrow in the dcau
Happy Cinco All Batfans 🦇👍
6:27 I really liked her new style.
The cartoon used 2 be canon with the Burton movies, hence why the Penguin looked that 1st.
The comics tie-ins shown that Harley banged her teacher 2 pass the psychiatry exams. Either her relationship with Poison Ivy is still meant 2 be toxic, although not as toxic as with the Joker.
this video made me look at my batman blu-rays. i have these on blu-ray along with mask of the phantasm and sub-zero :D
I love how Bruce looks here.
It's like his Batman side is coming out more and he is hiding it less and less as time goes on.
This is the batman I grew with
it's too bad It didn't have more episodes
I agree both had greatness in them .
For me to come over love it for changing choices and characters design still okay for me.
Plus: batgirl played Tara strong is pretty good by chance she really so young back then and now she really sounds like the batgirl from either comics from the adventures of Batman or New 52 stories that i use reading up along with rebirth comics.
WoW another Batman video
Who's the Robin all the way on the right at 17:26?
Didnt mind croc, baby doll, penguin, hatter
Best redesign was scarecrow
Worst was joker, Catwoman and the riddler.
Jeff Bennet Joker mentioned! Getting closer to a video about him?
I enjoyed it
Do a follow-up on Batman shifting mentally and visually again in JL/JLU
The only real complaint I have about this show honestly it's just some of the redesigns weren't great but as a whole it's a fantastic continuation.
Wow!
Batman TAS is a banger. Loved so many episodes of it. It truly is a DIAMOND 💎. Mainly because along with the action and drama there was always a lesson to learn in morality. Kevin Conroy will of course be the best Batman ever. RIP.✊🏽💖🖤🦇
Still one of my favorite Scarecrows to be put on screen
23:52 Annie look's like Hotaru Sailor Saturn from Sailor Moon.
Do clip about brave and the bold cartoon
Love the animated series
Finally, someone who doesn't hate the TNBA Joker design!
It's got a lot of personality, despite the toned down features. A lot less human than the other characters, really leaning into this pale giggling lunatic.
His smile is still uncomfortably wide, his frame is a little more angular and gangly, and his eyes are haunting and unpredictable. You can't really tell what he's thinking when he's staring you dead on with a fixed grimace.
That being said, the Justice League amalgam of the two really was the peak design.
While not my favorite Batman animated series, I still prefer the previous one, even the 2004 animated series, when I think of the DCAU, this animated series comes to mind. Maybe cause I see the art style pop up more growing up.
The new Batman adventures is a great and is underrated addition to Batman the animated series TNBA is one of the most mature darkest series and I'm surprised for a show that's for kids it gets away with a lot of dark and mature things over the edge is still one of the most beautiful and darkest episodes in the entire series till this day and once again IS A FREAKING KIDS SHOW
18:06 I need that issue number
Weyoun played the Scare Crow?!?
*Mind blown*
Where can i watch the full show at im trying to find it?
Will you do a breakdown on the show Gothams Scarecrow and MadHatter
“That’s Batman” I never seen this series but it seems like a good show.
You've never seen Batman The Animated Series?
@@sophiecooper1824no. The new Batman adventures. The sequel series
Yea I want part two and I’d like to know what do you think about the ummm strange relationship between Barbra and Bruce and baby doll and crock … cause I was uneasy about them both … loved seeing their stories unfold though
I think New Batman Adventures isn't as bad as people make it out to be
My only problem is some of the models look AWFUL(Killer Croc,Riddler,Catwoman is a HUGE downgrade from her underrated BTAS design Two-Face and Mr Freeze's heads are too small etc)
This show is awesome
I’ve seriously never understood the hate for btnas joker I loved his design since I was a child
Fun Fact: A comic crossover between BTAS and the 2012 Turtles actually explained why Scarecrow updated his look to the Season 4 design. He got spooked by the Kraang and got nightmares about them. Which is kinda funny cause the Kraang from the 2012 TMNT cartoon are not really scary and are kinda idiots. Now if it was the Kraang from the Rise of the TMNT movie, then that would make alot more sense!
I would l;ove to see more Batman, Superman, other DC animated shows, Gargoyles , Darkwing Duck, Freakazoid, Kim Possible, Sam and Max, TMNT, any animated hero series.
“That’s Batman”
I always thought Kevin Convoy playing Batman at all times in this season was on propose. To me it showed how far gone Bruce was in his Batman persona. The progression of Bruce losing his identity completely, further growing into what we see in Batman Beyond.
That's Batman 🦇
The one thing I hate about The New Batman Adventures is the relationship between Bruce and Barbara. Bruce Timm needs to stop with his Bruce and Barbara obsession it's creepy.
I would say that creepy relationship was in Batman Beyond and Mystery of the Batwoman. There’s no hint in TNBA and thank Great Rao for that!
@@prosperotorres7965 Thank Talos for that.
Yeah that mess was just wrong and he should've just kept that to himself. Batman and Batgirl are supposed to be mentor & young underling and nothing more!
The tie-in comics actually give sn explanation of why Catwoman's hair went from Blonde to Black. Still doesn't explain why her body type looks younger tho.
I actually prefer him in tnba his suit,look,and vehicle designs are so cool
I never saw it as a different show haha just a visual switch up, Isnt it the same universe??
personally i love both styles
I agree, I LOVE the piercing black eyes on the Joker's redesign, it's haunting and truly does justice to the terrifying, otherworldly, unordinary monster that he is. It just doesn't look quite right to not have more colour on his face though, I think I miss the red lips, though it feels that will likely take away from the starkly, baron-manner, hauntingly plain face with just demon eyes attached, that he has. The original is the classic look, and it has all the colour that's expected, you can't go wrong with that design, whereas with the redesign, it feels like you can just a 'lil bit, but in a noticeable way that never really leaves. I don't mean to go all spiritual and existential, but we should aim to have inner peace. Still, I appreciate the redesign for what it is.
The Scarecrow is the one indisputable improvement. I only miss the original design just a little bit, and that's due to missing Jonathan Crane's original, big personality, not due to missing the design. Regardless, I would sacrifice that instantly for this design's creepiness and haunting, zombie-like, and frightful appearance alone.
One thing that I think a lot of people miss, is that Harley Quinn's and Harvey Dent's seeming happy endings are abandoned, logically, in favour of more, standard stories with the two as villains. Ultimately, they actually end up in more psychologically damaging situations than ever before. The Ventriloquist ends up getting a happy ending instead. On the other side of the spectrum, Arnold Wesker was actually the most sympathetic when attempting to reform throughout his redemptive episode, as his psychological struggle is palpable. I'm not sure if people realise the red sky nights came from the opening of both the original and this show (so... the same opening!) having a red sky - I mean, perhaps it can be assumed, but I've never once heard it be said.
Batman: The Animated Series is the project that got me interested in the Batman character. Since then other Batman shows came out but non of them staked up against the 90s animated series. Kevin Conroy is the goat when it comes to Batman. But in live action, that crown goes to Christian Bale. His version of Batman reminded me of Conroy's Batman every step of the way. One of them was the emotional aspect. Comparing it to Conroy, Bale nailed that part. He nailed a lot when it comes to Batman. Batman: The Animated Series has since become my favorite cartoon series. Scooby-Doo: Where Are You and Superman: The Animated Series follow close behind.
"Bane's gone from a luchador to a BDSM enthusiast"💀
I love batman's costume change
I never liked the redesigns of the villains (Especially Joker with his beedy little eyes). Exception would be Scarecrow who became way scarier and less Wizard of Oz. Also, for some reason TNBA was localized, while the OG show wasn’t, so the voices/Language changing felt weird.
However, mostly I didn’t like how they made Batman more careless. It didn’t help that they always showed the crossover with Superman between TAS ending and TNBA starting. Imho that crossover tries way too hard to idealize Superman by vilifying Batman. This carried over in the Nightwing episode where he describes why he left. I just wish they had at least given a proper reason, like someone close to him dying or something that would explain why he suddenly became more aggressive.
But Batgirl didn’t really die in that episode. She is having a nightmare because she got hit by Scarecrow’s fear gas.
I would Batman beyond changed the way but the animated series is still regarded as one of the best shows ever
Why couldn't a batman superman just be a direct remake if the cartoon meeting. Maybe fluff action if its to short. The heros meet fight there biggest rogues. And the best batman one liner from a cartoon of all things ever.
If I was to make a tiers list of the redesigns I would label them: I’m fine with either designs, Good but I prefer the original, a very good design but I’d rather it be a new character then a redesign, ok but something’s off (uncanny valley), not a good redesign. Personally I can’t think of any redesigns I prefer over the original, but that could be a bit of stubbornness on my part (for one reason or another).
In case anyone was wondering, I would put the Joker in the ’ok but something’s off’ category (there’s some videos on UA-cam of TNBAS clips where someone did a recoloring of the Joker and it was a major improvement) and the Scarecrow in the ‘good but I’d rather it be a new character’. For me, while the design is really good, it doesn’t fit the character or the look of the Scarecrow. I feel it would fit a Grim Reaper themed character or zombie themed like Solomon Grundy better. The Scarecrow, meanwhile, shouldn’t be the personification of fear, but rather a being that can cause fear in people with the use of his toxin.
As a kid (and an adult) I loved the fact it continued the animated series. I hated the "redesign's" of the characters they knew what they had drawn was a success.
I love the redesign of Bruce in this.
But was never a fan of the Jokers change.
Scarecrow went the hardest though to bad they barely used him
"That's Batman"
So the change of Bruce here is an evolution of the character. Even tho it is not outright stated, Batman is struggling separating the two to the point of hes Batman 24/7 due to his heighten sense of responsibility for it as he got older.
Bruce Wayne as an adult was his facade. Facades fade when the dominant personality emerges. It becomes harder to shift.
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I love the black eyed joker
I miss Annie like robin, I hope DC BACK TO LIFE Annie
While the Joker's redesign isn't as bad as some make it out to be, they still could've done a better job with the change. There's some actual fan redesigns out there that does a better job blending Joker's BTAS look with TNBA.
Best Redesign: Scarecrow
Worst Redesign: The Riddler
As a Hispanic, bane sounds Hispanic, he had a accent accent in btas but not like that in tnba
I didn’t like the move to make Killer Crock more reptilian. I guess I always saw him a circus strongman with a skin condition who really leans into his gimmick, rather than a literal lizard man.
The show generally seemed more unrealistic -
In addition to Killer Croc not being a man with a skin condition, but instead, simply feeling like a reptile, Poison Ivy had all-out, inhuman, green skin, the Joker has piercing black eyes, Mr. Freeze is a head in a jar (though this relates to character evolution, not character design), the sky is always red at night, Alfred, Commissioner Gordon, and The Ventriloquist have black dots for eyes, and Catwoman seemingly has pale white skin in costume (it's never stated that she wears make-up, and it doesn't feel like it's necessarily, automatically assumed either). The angular character designs, though obviously being in-keeping with Superman: The Animated Series', distinctly feel less naturally human, though the colour palette actually is more photo-realistic, however. The Bat Signal also became cartoonish in its large size.
That’s Batman
I would argue that this show wasn't better than Batman TAS because it was simply a followup on it. It's the same show
I'm batman literally the guy you are talking about 😂
While i always thought as a matter of plot and story, btas was far superior, i still liked the new batman adventures, it was a great show despite it flaws
But i just absolutely HATED some of it's redesigns, all the villains got done dirty except the scarcrow, which was a massive improvement, i also like how they changed selina's hair, and the new batsuit was great, but man i hated what they did to alfred, batgirl, harvey bollock, the female characters specificaly in this show scared me, they'd always have that creepy smile on their face all the time, i dont know if it's a cheap animation trick but man i did not like it
Overall, tnba was fine as a follow up to the great btas, had some flaws but still good, better than getting nothing, i was finding myself empty after finishing the tas for the first time, i was desperate for new bruce timl batman content
Batgirl/Barbara Gordon is waifu material in this show XD she's an amazingly beautiful redhead, she's smart, she's brave and she's sassy. I love her and would marry her. She's so perfect.
I like Bruce’s TNBA-onward face better than TAS.
Ngl, I didn't like most of the new character designs in the New Adventures. Nightwing is the best. However the way all the women are drawn exactly the same use to bother me. Batman was bigger and colder.
LOL Nightwing's design isn't new, it never existed before. Even the thing you liked isn't valid.
that’s batman