Thank you so much! It is an honor to have you spend your time enjoying the content I produce. That is something I appreciate very much and do not take for granted.
Did this on my spectrum strat from 04 when putting in a larger trem block. Didn’t even need to remove the neck or add cards. Just a couple hours of figuring out where all the bolts needed to be. I use the skinny top heavy bottom Ernie balls on most of my guitars, besides my tele. I play dadgad or drop tuning most times. Seems to float a few mm off the body and get the job done. Also added an additional spring for better tuning stability to the block.
It is a fun guitar. Did you know these custom Duncan pickups have different pole spacing than standard strat single coils? It’s so they line up with the strings better but Duncan begged fender to not make them do it because it would cause confusion if someone tried to change a pickup cover. I found that out when I called Duncan to find out why my other pickup covers wouldn’t fit. 😉
@@REXYLAB they are the Seymour Duncan SSL-1 with the RWP in the Middle ... I changed the middle and neck covers on mine because I put them on another guitar hahaha, I changed them for white ones from my old Pacer Deluxe 87 and they fit well The strange thing is that the poles in the cover did not fit on other new Duncans (2014-2020), the ones that came in my Lite Ash were from 2007 Fun facts : All the hardware is Ping excellent quality, the original tuners work well and the bridge is excellent... it reminded me a lot of the old Fender Ultra
@@juanpfortunato the original pickups for this guitar were just called Seymour Duncan alnico 5 single coils. I swapped out the tuners for locking sperzels as soon as I got it.
Im curious to see what you do with the springs. When i float a Strat trem i set the hook further into the body on the bass side of the trem. I find that more tension on the bass than on the treble helps with tuning stability and return to pitch. I have one with two springs on the bass side and one on the treble side with a little tilt for a more firm feel. And one with one spring on each side with a more pronounced tilt on the hook for a lighter smoother feel. Im interested in seeing your tricks!
Great video! Thats a good way to do it. When i saw that the video was coming up, i had assumed it was a 6 screw trem. But its a two post so my process would be about the same a yours. Your right though, i did cringe a bit when you turned the posts with the strings under tension. Lmao 😂
@@REXYLAB You have to be careful doing that with a PRS as well. The six screws have a groove like a floyd post, but its so much thinner that you can break the top off or the screw!
I have a 2006 American Fender Strat (THe 2006 60th Ann. edition Am. Strat to be specific) with a 2 point tremelo system. I was wanting to put 5 Raw VIntage Springs in it to imitate a Jimi Hendrix Strat that has 5 trem springs. I did have an extra/replacement spring included with my guitar when I purchased it, but that would only leave me with 4 trem springs, and I would need to match a spring to have 5 stock trem springs, but the problem I then run into is that the springs that came with my guitar are a long stronger/stiffer than the old Fender trem springs, and also I think that includes the Raw Vintage springs because they are trying to copy the older springs from the 1950's/1960's.
@@REXYLAB I am trying to get as close as possible to the Jimi Hendrix Strat guitar sound, and since he used 5 springs for the trem, I am trying to replicate that. Right now I have 3 springs on my trem, set up floating the way it came from the factory. I would like to keep it a floating trem. I am trying to emulate a vintage 6 point trem with my 2 point trem basically, like the 1960's Strats Hendrix used. Edit: I am trying to get the tone of a 1960s Strat, with a floating bridge, and use 5 vintage style springs to replace my 3 modern springs.
@@JDStone20 ok, I see where you’re going. If (and it’s a big if) that would actually get you closer to a Hendrix tone I would think you would need to use a 6 hole trem. That being said I am extremely skeptical that springs of any brand would make a significant difference in tone. Especially if you run your guitar through a fuzz and then into a Marshall stack. The thing about Jimi Hendrix is that he was actually Jimi Hendrix. He could make anything sound like Jimi Hendrix. But, I don’t know for sure. However, I do have an old 6 hole Strat, a recording studio, and a UA-cam channel. So I tell you what, I’ll buy a set of these springs and compare them to the original fender springs, the Floyd Rose noiseless springs, the FU Tone noiseless springs, and anything else I happen to have lying around spring wise. I’ll do it with both 3 and 5 as well and won’t reveal what ones are what sound clip until later. Who knows, maybe it will make a tone difference but I really doubt it would make one that was actually significant. It will for sure make your vibrato much more difficult to play.
@@REXYLAB Awesome! I always wondered how much these little details matter, if at all, like you said, after the signal is ran through a fuzz pedal, amp, etc. It would be interesting to A/B it and see if there is any difference. I don't think I can get close to a 6 hole sync trem, the 2 point is a completely different design basically. I get it that Jimi Hendrix is going to sound like Jimi Hendrix no matter what he plays, but I think it is fun to try and get close to imitating his sound and playing technique. I have only been playing a few years so I have a long way to go still.
@@JDStone20 the absolute best advice I can give anyone is spend your time and money on practicing and education. Almost everyone (even me) at some point just can’t live without the latest and greatest new thing from company XYZ. What nobody wants to admit (even me) is that it is a subliminal bargain we are trying to make to pay to get better rather than earn getting better with practice. This is such a big problem that I plan on making a video about it. But, I’ll still do the spring comparison. If you want to see me get absolutely silly about something like this check out the link where I make what I thought was a funny video about the great pickup controversy started by Glen Fricker. This was meant to get Glen’s attention and hopefully his help for The Squishy Guitar Project, a nonprofit organization that gives guitars to children with rare and terminal diseases. Nobody got that. See if you can spot the two times I mention it. Remember, this was something I did for fun and I stated many times in different ways that this test will prove absolutely nothing. But I did have fun making it. Testing Pickups To See If Glenn Fricker Is Right Or Wrong (SpectreSoundStudios) ua-cam.com/video/roI8qBguwAY/v-deo.html
I have a 2017 Jackson dinky and I plan in B standard, using the mammoth slinky's. I've gotten the action pretty damn low, but I want to have action a little bit lower towards the end of the neck where it gets closer to the body. The problem is I have one of the three bolt Jackson's and was wondering what you recommended..
Make the neck as straight as possible and tilt it as long as you can raise the bridge. If it’s a fixed bridge and you can raise the saddles that’s ok too. If you haven’t heard I’ll share this with you. Low action means you need a LIGHT TOUCH! If you grip the hell out of your strings or pick excessively hard low action is a relative thing. Also, if it’s a Jackson it might have jumbo frets. If so those also don’t like super low action and definitely require a light touch. Light touch is not that tough. I started as a drummer that picked up bass and then guitar. Plus for years my attitude was, “if it’s not bone crushing metal then fuck you”. So if I can do a light touch anybody can. I truly hope that helped. If you run into any issues ask me and we will work on it. In the future I’ll be doing a video on converting a standard tuning guitar to B. I hope you like it.
@@REXYLAB I have a fairly light touch. I play more technical stuff so I prefer to have the lower action. I do have my neck pretty straight and it is an adjustable bridge. It's a Floyd rose. The three bolt pattern just kind of threw me off so I wasn't sure what kind of trick I could use since it's shaped a little differently than a square 4 bolt neck. Also it definitely has jumbo frets. I usually do all my own work so I'm pretty comfortable and familiar with working on and setting up guitars
@@Wh33lsofFortune in that case this video might help you better. It’s for tilting the neck on a guitar with a decked double locking trem very much like a Floyd Rose. Badlands Guitar Company GX1 Deep Dive ua-cam.com/video/zV3_xr2aPQ8/v-deo.html
You should be able to float it using the same technique I did in this video. I would definitely recommend locking tuners and a graphite nut to help with tuning stability.
@@Tobias1985 I did one or two but I am one of the busiest people you will ever meet. For example, I’m on a boat in the Gulf of Mexico right now and when I get back I have to catch up on all kinds of stuff before I fly back to Kahler and then back to the Gulf for my commercial deep sea diver job. Plus Gary Kahler, who is sponsoring the giveaway had a list of all kinds of videos he wanted me to do for his website. Since he’s footing the bill I had to oblige him. Plus Seymour Duncan contributed a amazing set of pickups so I shot a video for them too (that one will be up next week). The giveaway Strat is going to start really making a big showing In probably about a month. It will be used for all kinds of really cool things you can do with a Kahler as well as fancy wiring and even more cool stuff. By the time we give it away you might be sick of seeing it 😉
@@REXYLAB Oh you really are the busiest person I ever met! Damn, HOW can you handle all that? I'd be curled up in the corner of my room for months! I did not want you to feel pressured, I just wanted to know a bit more about it, so please, if you felt that way, I am very sorry. Obviously this comment hasn't got to do anything with this video, but yea.. Besides that, I understand why you couldn't upload it. I'm not the one who wins at any giveaway, but I love to watch those videos. To see who won the prize is always extremely interesting. And I bet, that I won't be sick of seeing that strat, 'cause I just love Kahlers and Fender Strats! Good luck to you and have fun in the Gulf of Mexico!
@@Tobias1985 no offense taken. It has been a while since the giveaway was announced so you are very correct to ask. That’s not a problem at all. Some of the things slotted for videos with the giveaway strat are… -Full disassembly and reassembly with setup of a 2300 -Changing to wide string hooks and changing the tuning to B standard -Sound demos of all combinations of string roller and cam material options -how to install graph tech ratio locking tuners -how to swap the nut for a graph tech graphite nut -how coil tap actually works -how to install a freeway switch 10 position switch And probably many more. The last two are exciting because there will be sound demos and coil tap single coils+freeway 10 position switch=20 tones instead of the usual 5 with a typical Fender Strat. If you are in Facebook and join the Kahler fan page you will learn more about the giveaway Strat quicker.
I'm genuinely confused and must be missing something. Why would I need to shim the neck to float a bridge? Surely you just adjust the claw? I've only heard of shimming to change the neck angle to the body if the guitar is made badly and it's impossible to adjust the bridge to get the action to where you want it.
@@REXYLAB That's not what I said is it if you look at my comment again which I genuinely posted in good faith and was interested? "Why would I need to shim the neck to float a bridge? Surely you just adjust the claw?" i.e. adjust just the claw to float a bridge?? If you could answer that for me that would be great as it wasn't clear to me why you are shimming the neck in relation to floating the bridge. I guess the guitar had some other issues maybe.
I might be in the minority, but personally, I kind of prefer a decked trem. But that's because I'm not that great of a player, and when a note goes out of tune flat and back into tune it doesn't sound as bad as a note going out of tune sharp. I understand why better musicians like floating trems though. And either way it's interesting, and it's useful to know the intricacies of how different things affects your setup in different ways.
The beauty of this is that what someone likes is neither right or wrong, it’s just a preference. Many people (in my youth I was as guilty as anyone) are super judgmental and will insist if you don’t do it the way they like you are wrong and they are right. This is an attitude that needs to be abandoned. You know who else liked his bridge decked, EVH. And he was definitely a great player.
![The Perfect Stratocaster Trem / Vibrato Setup [Floating, Flat Or Blocked?]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PjVXWyUGpwc/mqdefault.jpg)
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another great video produced by a skilled communicator
Thank you so much!
It is an honor to have you spend your time enjoying the content I produce. That is something I appreciate very much and do not take for granted.
Did this on my spectrum strat from 04 when putting in a larger trem block. Didn’t even need to remove the neck or add cards. Just a couple hours of figuring out where all the bolts needed to be. I use the skinny top heavy bottom Ernie balls on most of my guitars, besides my tele. I play dadgad or drop tuning most times. Seems to float a few mm off the body and get the job done. Also added an additional spring for better tuning stability to the block.
always fun to get the tension figured out, once its all set though..... sooo much fun playing a floating system!
Absolutely!
Perfect demonstration big dog!
Thank you brother!
Nice Lite Ash Korean Fender strat! i got one and sounds great with the stock duncan. Great Video!
It is a fun guitar. Did you know these custom Duncan pickups have different pole spacing than standard strat single coils?
It’s so they line up with the strings better but Duncan begged fender to not make them do it because it would cause confusion if someone tried to change a pickup cover.
I found that out when I called Duncan to find out why my other pickup covers wouldn’t fit. 😉
@@REXYLAB they are the Seymour Duncan SSL-1 with the RWP in the Middle ... I changed the middle and neck covers on mine because I put them on another guitar hahaha, I changed them for white ones from my old Pacer Deluxe 87 and they fit well
The strange thing is that the poles in the cover did not fit on other new Duncans (2014-2020), the ones that came in my Lite Ash were from 2007
Fun facts : All the hardware is Ping excellent quality, the original tuners work well and the bridge is excellent... it reminded me a lot of the old Fender Ultra
@@juanpfortunato the original pickups for this guitar were just called Seymour Duncan alnico 5 single coils. I swapped out the tuners for locking sperzels as soon as I got it.
Best use for most people's business cards. 😅😂
Typically!
Im curious to see what you do with the springs. When i float a Strat trem i set the hook further into the body on the bass side of the trem. I find that more tension on the bass than on the treble helps with tuning stability and return to pitch. I have one with two springs on the bass side and one on the treble side with a little tilt for a more firm feel. And one with one spring on each side with a more pronounced tilt on the hook for a lighter smoother feel. Im interested in seeing your tricks!
I don’t want to spoil the surprise so I’ll just say we do it differently. But, there is more than one way to do most anything.
Great video! Thats a good way to do it. When i saw that the video was coming up, i had assumed it was a 6 screw trem. But its a two post so my process would be about the same a yours. Your right though, i did cringe a bit when you turned the posts with the strings under tension. Lmao 😂
Don’t do that with a cheap bridge but with one made of steel it’s fine.
@@REXYLAB You have to be careful doing that with a PRS as well. The six screws have a groove like a floyd post, but its so much thinner that you can break the top off or the screw!
@@stevenpipes1555 an import prs, yes.
I have a 2006 American Fender Strat (THe 2006 60th Ann. edition Am. Strat to be specific) with a 2 point tremelo system. I was wanting to put 5 Raw VIntage Springs in it to imitate a Jimi Hendrix Strat that has 5 trem springs. I did have an extra/replacement spring included with my guitar when I purchased it, but that would only leave me with 4 trem springs, and I would need to match a spring to have 5 stock trem springs, but the problem I then run into is that the springs that came with my guitar are a long stronger/stiffer than the old Fender trem springs, and also I think that includes the Raw Vintage springs because they are trying to copy the older springs from the 1950's/1960's.
Are you wanting the trem to act like a fixed bridge? Is this for tone? What is the goal you are trying to achieve?
@@REXYLAB I am trying to get as close as possible to the Jimi Hendrix Strat guitar sound, and since he used 5 springs for the trem, I am trying to replicate that. Right now I have 3 springs on my trem, set up floating the way it came from the factory. I would like to keep it a floating trem. I am trying to emulate a vintage 6 point trem with my 2 point trem basically, like the 1960's Strats Hendrix used. Edit: I am trying to get the tone of a 1960s Strat, with a floating bridge, and use 5 vintage style springs to replace my 3 modern springs.
@@JDStone20 ok, I see where you’re going.
If (and it’s a big if) that would actually get you closer to a Hendrix tone I would think you would need to use a 6 hole trem.
That being said I am extremely skeptical that springs of any brand would make a significant difference in tone. Especially if you run your guitar through a fuzz and then into a Marshall stack.
The thing about Jimi Hendrix is that he was actually Jimi Hendrix. He could make anything sound like Jimi Hendrix.
But, I don’t know for sure. However, I do have an old 6 hole Strat, a recording studio, and a UA-cam channel. So I tell you what, I’ll buy a set of these springs and compare them to the original fender springs, the Floyd Rose noiseless springs, the FU Tone noiseless springs, and anything else I happen to have lying around spring wise. I’ll do it with both 3 and 5 as well and won’t reveal what ones are what sound clip until later.
Who knows, maybe it will make a tone difference but I really doubt it would make one that was actually significant. It will for sure make your vibrato much more difficult to play.
@@REXYLAB Awesome! I always wondered how much these little details matter, if at all, like you said, after the signal is ran through a fuzz pedal, amp, etc. It would be interesting to A/B it and see if there is any difference. I don't think I can get close to a 6 hole sync trem, the 2 point is a completely different design basically. I get it that Jimi Hendrix is going to sound like Jimi Hendrix no matter what he plays, but I think it is fun to try and get close to imitating his sound and playing technique. I have only been playing a few years so I have a long way to go still.
@@JDStone20 the absolute best advice I can give anyone is spend your time and money on practicing and education.
Almost everyone (even me) at some point just can’t live without the latest and greatest new thing from company XYZ. What nobody wants to admit (even me) is that it is a subliminal bargain we are trying to make to pay to get better rather than earn getting better with practice. This is such a big problem that I plan on making a video about it.
But, I’ll still do the spring comparison.
If you want to see me get absolutely silly about something like this check out the link where I make what I thought was a funny video about the great pickup controversy started by Glen Fricker. This was meant to get Glen’s attention and hopefully his help for The Squishy Guitar Project, a nonprofit organization that gives guitars to children with rare and terminal diseases. Nobody got that. See if you can spot the two times I mention it.
Remember, this was something I did for fun and I stated many times in different ways that this test will prove absolutely nothing. But I did have fun making it.
Testing Pickups To See If Glenn Fricker Is Right Or Wrong (SpectreSoundStudios)
ua-cam.com/video/roI8qBguwAY/v-deo.html
I have a 2017 Jackson dinky and I plan in B standard, using the mammoth slinky's. I've gotten the action pretty damn low, but I want to have action a little bit lower towards the end of the neck where it gets closer to the body. The problem is I have one of the three bolt Jackson's and was wondering what you recommended..
Make the neck as straight as possible and tilt it as long as you can raise the bridge. If it’s a fixed bridge and you can raise the saddles that’s ok too.
If you haven’t heard I’ll share this with you. Low action means you need a LIGHT TOUCH! If you grip the hell out of your strings or pick excessively hard low action is a relative thing.
Also, if it’s a Jackson it might have jumbo frets. If so those also don’t like super low action and definitely require a light touch.
Light touch is not that tough. I started as a drummer that picked up bass and then guitar. Plus for years my attitude was, “if it’s not bone crushing metal then fuck you”. So if I can do a light touch anybody can.
I truly hope that helped. If you run into any issues ask me and we will work on it.
In the future I’ll be doing a video on converting a standard tuning guitar to B. I hope you like it.
@@REXYLAB I have a fairly light touch. I play more technical stuff so I prefer to have the lower action. I do have my neck pretty straight and it is an adjustable bridge. It's a Floyd rose. The three bolt pattern just kind of threw me off so I wasn't sure what kind of trick I could use since it's shaped a little differently than a square 4 bolt neck. Also it definitely has jumbo frets. I usually do all my own work so I'm pretty comfortable and familiar with working on and setting up guitars
@@Wh33lsofFortune in that case this video might help you better. It’s for tilting the neck on a guitar with a decked double locking trem very much like a Floyd Rose.
Badlands Guitar Company GX1 Deep Dive
ua-cam.com/video/zV3_xr2aPQ8/v-deo.html
This might have things you can use as well.
Original Floyd Rose Full Set Up Tutorial 🎸
ua-cam.com/video/cNIMvh8qP7o/v-deo.html
Hello can i float my jackson js 22 dka dinky 2 point fulcrum tremolo bridge???? pls reply
You should be able to float it using the same technique I did in this video. I would definitely recommend locking tuners and a graphite nut to help with tuning stability.
Hey man wanted to ask what happened to the giveaway
It’s still happening. In fact, it’s barely just started.
Oh okay, thanks. The video was uploaded a month ago and I haven'T seen some updates, that's why I'm wondering@@REXYLAB
@@Tobias1985 I did one or two but I am one of the busiest people you will ever meet. For example, I’m on a boat in the Gulf of Mexico right now and when I get back I have to catch up on all kinds of stuff before I fly back to Kahler and then back to the Gulf for my commercial deep sea diver job.
Plus Gary Kahler, who is sponsoring the giveaway had a list of all kinds of videos he wanted me to do for his website. Since he’s footing the bill I had to oblige him. Plus Seymour Duncan contributed a amazing set of pickups so I shot a video for them too (that one will be up next week).
The giveaway Strat is going to start really making a big showing In probably about a month. It will be used for all kinds of really cool things you can do with a Kahler as well as fancy wiring and even more cool stuff.
By the time we give it away you might be sick of seeing it 😉
@@REXYLAB Oh you really are the busiest person I ever met! Damn, HOW can you handle all that? I'd be curled up in the corner of my room for months!
I did not want you to feel pressured, I just wanted to know a bit more about it, so please, if you felt that way, I am very sorry. Obviously this comment hasn't got to do anything with this video, but yea..
Besides that, I understand why you couldn't upload it. I'm not the one who wins at any giveaway, but I love to watch those videos. To see who won the prize is always extremely interesting. And I bet, that I won't be sick of seeing that strat, 'cause I just love Kahlers and Fender Strats!
Good luck to you and have fun in the Gulf of Mexico!
@@Tobias1985 no offense taken. It has been a while since the giveaway was announced so you are very correct to ask. That’s not a problem at all.
Some of the things slotted for videos with the giveaway strat are…
-Full disassembly and reassembly with setup of a 2300
-Changing to wide string hooks and changing the tuning to B standard
-Sound demos of all combinations of string roller and cam material options
-how to install graph tech ratio locking tuners
-how to swap the nut for a graph tech graphite nut
-how coil tap actually works
-how to install a freeway switch 10 position switch
And probably many more.
The last two are exciting because there will be sound demos and coil tap single coils+freeway 10 position switch=20 tones instead of the usual 5 with a typical Fender Strat.
If you are in Facebook and join the Kahler fan page you will learn more about the giveaway Strat quicker.
I'm genuinely confused and must be missing something. Why would I need to shim the neck to float a bridge? Surely you just adjust the claw? I've only heard of shimming to change the neck angle to the body if the guitar is made badly and it's impossible to adjust the bridge to get the action to where you want it.
Yep, you are confused. What would adjusting the claw do to change the neck angle so the bridge floats?
@@REXYLAB That's not what I said is it if you look at my comment again which I genuinely posted in good faith and was interested? "Why would I need to shim the neck to float a bridge? Surely you just adjust the claw?" i.e. adjust just the claw to float a bridge?? If you could answer that for me that would be great as it wasn't clear to me why you are shimming the neck in relation to floating the bridge. I guess the guitar had some other issues maybe.
I might be in the minority, but personally, I kind of prefer a decked trem. But that's because I'm not that great of a player, and when a note goes out of tune flat and back into tune it doesn't sound as bad as a note going out of tune sharp. I understand why better musicians like floating trems though. And either way it's interesting, and it's useful to know the intricacies of how different things affects your setup in different ways.
The beauty of this is that what someone likes is neither right or wrong, it’s just a preference.
Many people (in my youth I was as guilty as anyone) are super judgmental and will insist if you don’t do it the way they like you are wrong and they are right. This is an attitude that needs to be abandoned.
You know who else liked his bridge decked, EVH. And he was definitely a great player.
@@REXYLAB Oh yeah? I didn't know that about Eddie Van Halen. Yeah. He was definitely no slouch to say the least.
@@jeremylhay I should say not.
“Slopey wedge.” 😂
The slopeiest!