I enjoy your work. The messages are concise and not laden with BS. I appreciate the intricacies of the report and your explanation of the nuances of balance, gun speed, etc. that you feel when shooting the gun. Thanks.
Nice review Lloyd. 👍 Its an interesting one, I purchased a used but mint condition 692 black. As it happens I did however check out the new 694 after watching your review. I actually went to the shop with the intention of coming away with one but didn't. The main reason was the palm swell, it felt too big for my hands. Not a deal breaker but just preferred the feel, weight and balance of the 692. That's what's great about the introduction of the 694 it's created options in a similar price bracket. I still believe there's a place for both models purely because of those differences. IMO the 692 is better looking than a 694, not that it matters! Who am I kidding, course it does. 😂
Agree completely with you, the 692 balance is much better way than the 694... it happens exactly the same to me... also the swing on the 692 black is much more precise and quicker...
You guys should never try a 725 if you think the palm sweep is too big on the 694. Also note that balance is deferent for every gun due to the variance in stock weight. Hence the BFast weights. I find the 692 far too wandy for serious clay work.
@@lloydyp hi I purchased a 692 black and I’m getting on with it ok although at the moment I feel I’m swinging through some things a little two much,I used to shoot browning and had a 525 so this is a nice upgrade but taking a little longer to get used to it so always wonder if i made the right choice,anyway I’ll continue and persevere, I’ve been looking at the browning ultra Xs pro,what are your thoughts on this compared to the 692? I enjoy watching all your videos so keep it up,regards lee
Nice to see an honest and unbiased opinion - as always! - I purchased a new ATA Sporter (£600!) AND a Benelli Supersport (a little more expensive!) - both based on your reviews - and I have to say, I'm delighted with both guns - so you're a very trusted gun information source for me !! - Thanks Lloyd 👍😍
It amazes me how you have under 10k followers even though when I'm watching I experience content better than channels with millions of subs. I've watched all of your reviews and you have totally influenced me in which shotgun I might buy even on a limited budget. I wonder if youd ever do a budget review series as it's only possible for me and a lot of others to get shotguns below 100, and commercial shotguns not one offs that you're lucky to find. Love your vids :)
Thanks Bob. I must admit I don't know what else to do re attracting more subs, I thought it would just grow organically over time but it's been slow going. I keep hoping I will tip over some event horizon but hey ho. When you say budget, do you mean under a grand? Under a ton would be quite challenging.
@@lloydyp yeah under a grand is about where it's at for me? There arent many I can find and they dont all have reviews as trustworthy as yours, the most common are your Turkish ones like ATA but I've heard mixed reviews...
@@lloydyp Lloyd, can also say a best guns to try for under £1000 would be a great shout. A combination of new and SH. Give people new to the sport a chance to get a to try list together on a budget, and show that you don't need to be spending thousands to get into it.
Nice review as always. As for "what's this gun for", not everyone likes as heavy a gun as you do. I shoot mostly field guns (side by sides), so when I bought an o/u, I went with a light and slender model (a Caesar Guerini Magnus 20 bore with 30" barrels). It fits me as a tall and skinny guy (6' 2" and 165 pounds).
I have the standard 692 with adjustable stock. Never missed a beat - for reliability, just change the ejector o-rings every few months which only takes 2 min whan you have the ejectors out for cleaning anyway. These o-rings cost absolutely nothing as long as you don't buy "genuine" spares (measurement is 3.6mm ID x 1mm). I bough a pack of 50 for under £5 delivered and these will last longer then I will! If buying new and looking for a dedicated sporter, I'd go for a 694. However 692's are a great buy 2nd hand or if looking for a gun that could also be used for game (more versatile grip).
Fair comment Kevin. I think a lot of shooters rarely if ever remove their ejectors for cleaning. Based on the feedback I hear regularly it feels like a lot of shooters take rather poor care of their guns.
When is someone going to review the 690 Black? Nobody reviews it and it’s at a price range that fits a greater majority - like me. Would love to hear your opinion. Great videos, keep it up.
I bought one last year pre-owned. It's a lovely looking gun but...... The ejectors failed almost immediately and this seems to be an issue in 692s with the little rocker switch that lets you deactivate the ejectors. Shooting a plain Jane vanilla 686 e Evo now and very taken with it. Might be persuaded to start saving the pennies again if a black 694 was released. 👍
@@lloydyp Yeah i saw the Ascent review. Would be nice to see one on the normal sporting model to see what you think about it. Im sure someone at bywell can fix you one? :D Haha
Hi Lloyd great review as always. I have one question about the 692 black, does the black color rub off from the receiver and barrels after a bit of use ? Thanks.
I mean after 2 or 3 years of shooting (5000 to 10000 cartridges). I hesitate between the regular 692 that seems to keep its looks for long time and the black edition which i really like
Thanks Lloyd. In your view, given the multiple improvements inherent in the 694, allied to the modest price increase over it's predecessor. In your opinion. Is there still a place for the 692 in the Beretta catalogue? Thanks again. Stuart
Hard to say, there are many guns based on the 690 action, so there are a ton of guns to retool before they make a decision like that, however, I can't see many people buying 692s now. The market will sort itself out.
I think Beretta will cease, or at least, rapidly taper off production, and sell off a.s.a.p., remaining stocks of 692's, at a tempting price. Your suggested 694 "black", variant is a logical iterative next step, givien the interest. I suspect Beretta will aggressively push the 694 as their optimum mid range sporter, and the 692 will be consigned to history. Thanks again. Stuart.
Thank you Lloyd!... need your help though... I just went to the store to look at 694, that I almost had ordered instead 692, but decided to look at it first, and... they also had 692 there... well... 692 feels much better - lighter and smoother over all feel, and most importantly, it looks like they have a different drop? Id go with the newer 694 technology regardless the weight, but, because the drop, it does not fit! 692 goes in like a charm, and I am too high on 694. Is it possible? 694 was 30' and 692 32" - could it bring the difference into overall geometry? Confused. Lloyd, please help! :)
I've heard the same complaint from a clue of people as it happens. I can shoot either but if you find the 694 stock dimensions don't suit you then it's no good.
@@lloydyp When I shoulder the gun, I should not see the rib, should I? It has to be flat, parallel to the view... or i am wrong? That is how my Benelli SBEII set up, i had to adjust the drop a bit...
@@lloydyp Well, sorry, i did not make myself clear I think, by "Not Seeing" i meant having the eye view line in parallel to the rib, right above it, more like lying then standing on the train track... :) is this it?
Hi Lloyd, I’m currently in the market for a trap gun to get back into shooting after a few years out. What’s your thoughts on a Beretta 686 Evo E please? I’ve seen one in my local gun shop for £1400 pre owned.
The 686E Evo is a sporter AFAIK, no reason at all you cant shoot trap with it, indeed I shoot everything with a sporter, but I shoot everything, not *just* trap. Might be worth trying a dedicated trap gun as well if you can. Plenty about at reasonable money.
Thanks Lloyd. Would I be right it thinking a pre owned one is best and that the original owner has taken the hit on the value and the gun should hold better value for me? Enjoy your videos, keep up the good work 👍🏼
@@mikehillman9925 pretty much mate, yeah. At the sub 1500 quid mark you can do a lot worse than a used gun in terms of value for money, and depreciation.
Thanks Hasan. Hmmm, that's a really interesting question. what kind of price are you lookat where you live? obviously I can only speak for the UK market, so it's hard for me to say what might be the best deal for you.
@@halhaji84 lol sorry man I just assumed you were outside the UK. OK I think you will have reall difficulty finding a 692 Black for 2k, the cheapest one I can see on GunTrader is 2600. So for that money, 682GE is a good shout.
I enjoy your work. The messages are concise and not laden with BS. I appreciate the intricacies of the report and your explanation of the nuances of balance, gun speed, etc. that you feel when shooting the gun. Thanks.
cheers man :)
Nice review Lloyd. 👍 Its an interesting one, I purchased a used but mint condition 692 black. As it happens I did however check out the new 694 after watching your review. I actually went to the shop with the intention of coming away with one but didn't. The main reason was the palm swell, it felt too big for my hands. Not a deal breaker but just preferred the feel, weight and balance of the 692. That's what's great about the introduction of the 694 it's created options in a similar price bracket. I still believe there's a place for both models purely because of those differences. IMO the 692 is better looking than a 694, not that it matters! Who am I kidding, course it does. 😂
Agree completely with you, the 692 balance is much better way than the 694... it happens exactly the same to me... also the swing on the 692 black is much more precise and quicker...
Funny you mention this I had the exact same experience and the palm swell was the game changer for me felt far to big on the 694.
You guys should never try a 725 if you think the palm sweep is too big on the 694. Also note that balance is deferent for every gun due to the variance in stock weight. Hence the BFast weights. I find the 692 far too wandy for serious clay work.
@@lloydyp hi I purchased a 692 black and I’m getting on with it ok although at the moment I feel I’m swinging through some things a little two much,I used to shoot browning and had a 525 so this is a nice upgrade but taking a little longer to get used to it so always wonder if i made the right choice,anyway I’ll continue and persevere, I’ve been looking at the browning ultra Xs pro,what are your thoughts on this compared to the 692? I enjoy watching all your videos so keep it up,regards lee
692 Vs XS pro is not a fair fight. I own an XS Pro.
Nice to see an honest and unbiased opinion - as always! - I purchased a new ATA Sporter (£600!) AND a Benelli Supersport (a little more expensive!) - both based on your reviews - and I have to say, I'm delighted with both guns - so you're a very trusted gun information source for me !! - Thanks Lloyd 👍😍
That's great to hear man. Thanks for that :)
It amazes me how you have under 10k followers even though when I'm watching I experience content better than channels with millions of subs.
I've watched all of your reviews and you have totally influenced me in which shotgun I might buy even on a limited budget. I wonder if youd ever do a budget review series as it's only possible for me and a lot of others to get shotguns below 100, and commercial shotguns not one offs that you're lucky to find. Love your vids :)
Thanks Bob. I must admit I don't know what else to do re attracting more subs, I thought it would just grow organically over time but it's been slow going. I keep hoping I will tip over some event horizon but hey ho. When you say budget, do you mean under a grand? Under a ton would be quite challenging.
@@lloydyp yeah under a grand is about where it's at for me? There arent many I can find and they dont all have reviews as trustworthy as yours, the most common are your Turkish ones like ATA but I've heard mixed reviews...
@@bobbob7547 No worries, would be a good episode. I'll have a think about that.
@@lloydyp Lloyd, can also say a best guns to try for under £1000 would be a great shout. A combination of new and SH. Give people new to the sport a chance to get a to try list together on a budget, and show that you don't need to be spending thousands to get into it.
Great review as always
Thank you
Great review John, beautiful gun but like all Beretta's too light for me. 694 would be the way to go for me.
Who's John?
@@lloydyp sorry in the middle of three emails. Great review Mr P.
Well done Lloyd. Really appreciate all your videos.
Thanks man :)
Nice review as always. As for "what's this gun for", not everyone likes as heavy a gun as you do. I shoot mostly field guns (side by sides), so when I bought an o/u, I went with a light and slender model (a Caesar Guerini Magnus 20 bore with 30" barrels). It fits me as a tall and skinny guy (6' 2" and 165 pounds).
Fair comment man.
I have the standard 692 with adjustable stock. Never missed a beat - for reliability, just change the ejector o-rings every few months which only takes 2 min whan you have the ejectors out for cleaning anyway.
These o-rings cost absolutely nothing as long as you don't buy "genuine" spares (measurement is 3.6mm ID x 1mm). I bough a pack of 50 for under £5 delivered and these will last longer then I will!
If buying new and looking for a dedicated sporter, I'd go for a 694. However 692's are a great buy 2nd hand or if looking for a gun that could also be used for game (more versatile grip).
Fair comment Kevin. I think a lot of shooters rarely if ever remove their ejectors for cleaning. Based on the feedback I hear regularly it feels like a lot of shooters take rather poor care of their guns.
When is someone going to review the 690 Black? Nobody reviews it and it’s at a price range that fits a greater majority - like me. Would love to hear your opinion. Great videos, keep it up.
Have you seen the gun shops review of 690 black?
I bought one last year pre-owned. It's a lovely looking gun but...... The ejectors failed almost immediately and this seems to be an issue in 692s with the little rocker switch that lets you deactivate the ejectors. Shooting a plain Jane vanilla 686 e Evo now and very taken with it. Might be persuaded to start saving the pennies again if a black 694 was released. 👍
You just need to replace the o-rings. Takes 2 min and you can buy a pack of 50 for a couple quid.
@@ShootingAndReloading Cheers for that Kevin 👍
Great review Lloyd,
Can you make a review on the Browning 725 Sporter S3 Black edition.
Thanks.
Thank you, I will if I can get hold of one for sure.
Prosím, proč to není ty zprávy v českém jazyce?
Hi Lloyd have you or will you do a review on the 690 Black 👍 love your video’s keep it up
I havent done the 690. If one comes in, I will review it but not had any in the last few years. I can but hope.
Cheers already looking forward to it 🔫👍
Have you heard anything about Beretta making a 694 Black Edition?
No, but I can't imagine they won't given the success of the other models.
I hope so
Good review , Thanks !
Thanks for watching!
Nice gun Lloyd but I agree a bit to light especially for sporting.....Good review as usual take care sir..
Thanks John.
Would be great if you took a look on a Invctus i sporting, not the acent and with a semi beavertail forend.
I did the Invictus a couple years back. I would like to do one of the new models, but I need to get hold of one first.
@@lloydyp Yeah i saw the Ascent review. Would be nice to see one on the normal sporting model to see what you think about it. Im sure someone at bywell can fix you one? :D Haha
@@Jimmy.JAEGARN I would need to get one sent up from the Anglo Italian Arms. I'll speak to them at the BSS at the weekend and see what I can do.
@@lloydyp Awesome! Heard they were going to release a few new invictus models at BSS aswell :)
There are weights to make it heavier if you need more weight wrap some chain around your left arm?
or just buy a gun that actually balances how you like...
Nice review like always LIoyd . Beretta ok But Perazzi always better
That’s my opinion.
Depends on your budget of course.
Hi Lloyd great review as always. I have one question about the 692 black, does the black color rub off from the receiver and barrels after a bit of use ?
Thanks.
Define "a bit of use"
I mean after 2 or 3 years of shooting (5000 to 10000 cartridges). I hesitate between the regular 692 that seems to keep its looks for long time and the black edition which i really like
@@ouniriadh9028 you will be fine for years if that's the level of shooting you are doing.
@@lloydyp thank you for the quick response. Again great channel, keep up the good work
Thanks for watching the show.
Are the triggers any crisper than a 686? The action looks the same.
It's been a while but I think the trigger pulls are a little better than the last SP I tested.
@@lloydyp cheers! 👍
Thanks Lloyd.
In your view, given the multiple improvements inherent in the 694, allied to the modest price increase over it's predecessor. In your opinion.
Is there still a place for the 692 in the Beretta catalogue?
Thanks again.
Stuart
Hard to say, there are many guns based on the 690 action, so there are a ton of guns to retool before they make a decision like that, however, I can't see many people buying 692s now. The market will sort itself out.
@@lloydyp
Thanks Lloyd.
I think Beretta will cease, or at least, rapidly taper off production, and sell off a.s.a.p., remaining stocks of 692's, at a tempting price.
Your suggested 694 "black", variant is a logical iterative next step, givien the interest.
I suspect Beretta will aggressively push the 694 as their optimum mid range sporter, and the 692 will be consigned to history.
Thanks again.
Stuart.
Thank you Lloyd!... need your help though... I just went to the store to look at 694, that I almost had ordered instead 692, but decided to look at it first, and... they also had 692 there... well... 692 feels much better - lighter and smoother over all feel, and most importantly, it looks like they have a different drop? Id go with the newer 694 technology regardless the weight, but, because the drop, it does not fit! 692 goes in like a charm, and I am too high on 694. Is it possible? 694 was 30' and 692 32" - could it bring the difference into overall geometry? Confused. Lloyd, please help! :)
I've heard the same complaint from a clue of people as it happens. I can shoot either but if you find the 694 stock dimensions don't suit you then it's no good.
@@lloydyp When I shoulder the gun, I should not see the rib, should I? It has to be flat, parallel to the view... or i am wrong? That is how my Benelli SBEII set up, i had to adjust the drop a bit...
No you should deffo be able to see the rib. Like standing on a train track tapering to infinity.
@@lloydyp Well, sorry, i did not make myself clear I think, by "Not Seeing" i meant having the eye view line in parallel to the rib, right above it, more like lying then standing on the train track... :) is this it?
@@shmontrostov honestly I would need to see you mount a gun, it's not something you can accurately describe well in comments if you know what I mean.
Hi Lloyd, I’m currently in the market for a trap gun to get back into shooting after a few years out. What’s your thoughts on a Beretta 686 Evo E please? I’ve seen one in my local gun shop for £1400 pre owned.
The 686E Evo is a sporter AFAIK, no reason at all you cant shoot trap with it, indeed I shoot everything with a sporter, but I shoot everything, not *just* trap. Might be worth trying a dedicated trap gun as well if you can. Plenty about at reasonable money.
I should have said Sporting Clays not trap really Lloyd. Would a Beretta 690/692 be better? More money though. Thank you for your help/advice
@@mikehillman9925 AHH ok, the Evo will be a fine choice then. 690 Not really better tbh, just more features you probably don't need starting out.
Thanks Lloyd. Would I be right it thinking a pre owned one is best and that the original owner has taken the hit on the value and the gun should hold better value for me? Enjoy your videos, keep up the good work 👍🏼
@@mikehillman9925 pretty much mate, yeah. At the sub 1500 quid mark you can do a lot worse than a used gun in terms of value for money, and depreciation.
Is that the trap, skeet or sporting version?
Sporter
Will you buy this second hand or 682 E Gold?
You doing great job Lloyd I love watching your reviews
Thanks Hasan. Hmmm, that's a really interesting question. what kind of price are you lookat where you live? obviously I can only speak for the UK market, so it's hard for me to say what might be the best deal for you.
@@lloydyp I live in West Yorkshire the budget till 2k
Thanks
@@halhaji84 lol sorry man I just assumed you were outside the UK. OK I think you will have reall difficulty finding a 692 Black for 2k, the cheapest one I can see on GunTrader is 2600. So for that money, 682GE is a good shout.
@@lloydyp cheers thank you very much mate
@@lloydyp k
Why so light? My 692 (non-black) was 8 lbs.
I just weighed the gun I had Bob. The carbon rib saves a good bit of weight.
@@lloydyp I know they do save weight but I didn't think half a lb. Great review as always Lloyd!
LIoyd When ZOLI Z GUN SPORTING ?
Probably never. Zoli no longer have a UK distributor after I waited 2 years for a gun from Edgar Brothers.
Thanks for your presentations! Consider speaking a bit slower for your non-English speaking followers.