Why IGOR is So Depressing: Finding Where We Fit into Heartbreak

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  • @lga4187
    @lga4187 2 роки тому +721

    The cool thing about the whole "I found peace in drowning" line is that if you've ever almost drowned to death you know exactly what he's talking about.
    There's a point when drowning where your body simply runs out of fight and sinks. All of the extreme discomfort and urgency you felt before slips away and you feel this sense of serenity, you even feel like you can breathe again even though you obviously can't. It becomes really easy to forget that you feel so at ease because your brain and body is literally shutting down.

    • @JacksonsMusicPalate
      @JacksonsMusicPalate  2 роки тому +62

      Love your conversation my friend... thanks for continuing to be good to me

    • @its_yourgirlyyy_
      @its_yourgirlyyy_ Рік тому +12

      Omg that happened to me when I got trapped under someone's floatie- I was coughing os hard after though

    • @michaelhunter4891
      @michaelhunter4891 Рік тому +1

      I want to give you a hug

    • @rhombamcfierson
      @rhombamcfierson Рік тому +1

      Uhh guys did something happen

    • @aspect2758
      @aspect2758 8 місяців тому

      Happened to me couple years back was wondering why the water was so comforting

  • @koolio6334
    @koolio6334 2 роки тому +603

    one of the first tyler essays where you actually acknowledge tyler being MLM in some shape without making weird comments about it. props to you for that, but also props to you for this whole video! it encapsulates my thoughts on the album exactly in a more in-depth way

    • @JacksonsMusicPalate
      @JacksonsMusicPalate  2 роки тому +98

      Thank you so much for your kind feedback. I applaud Tyler for being so transparent about his sexuality, and making anything more out of it than the purpose it has artistically would be detrimental to both IGOR's artistry and my appreciation for it

    • @slystone4892
      @slystone4892 Рік тому +6

      What is Mlm

    • @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv
      @ToyotaCorolla-en2mv Рік тому +30

      ​@@slystone4892man loving man, basically just another way to say gay

    • @xPS3xBOSSx
      @xPS3xBOSSx Рік тому +2

      Lame

    • @salmonellaII
      @salmonellaII Рік тому +17

      ​@@xPS3xBOSSx aight bro

  • @dani728
    @dani728 Рік тому +146

    I love it how the quote "Exactly what you run from, you end up chasing" connects to his wolf trilogy, where he sings about hating homosexuality, but now he is into a man
    not only a loop in the labum, but goes to the very start of his discography fully aware of it

    • @ghastly5520
      @ghastly5520 10 місяців тому

      Tyler isn’t gay tho

    • @NotThatPerson95
      @NotThatPerson95 9 місяців тому

      @@ghastly5520 “I’m a fucking homosexual”
      -Tyler the creator

    • @dinkle3206
      @dinkle3206 9 місяців тому +22

      @@ghastly5520 hes bi

  • @kamoheloiannk617
    @kamoheloiannk617 Рік тому +126

    34:55.... I think the loop is also that all those feelings you go through you'll go through again even if it's not exactly with the same person but just feelings of loving someone in general.

  • @Studio307Fredonia
    @Studio307Fredonia Рік тому +62

    3:00 this comment hits. Its been over 7 months since my heart was wrecked. And yet I'll have days where I'm at "i don't love you anymore" and other days i feel like I'll relapse back to "earfquake"

    • @thedivinemessenger
      @thedivinemessenger Рік тому +3

      faxxx bro for a year i truly dint give a fuk… but in october i was back aka the album started over smh…

  • @flukas
    @flukas 2 роки тому +269

    this video/documentary is amazing. the feeling of an explanation while also having human comparison is so special and it makes the experience 1000x better. this is one of the best album dissections I have ever watched. just wow

  • @dunkcentral4759
    @dunkcentral4759 Рік тому +69

    15:39 just noticed he says “not my first who gives a f*ck ” maybe this means he’s been stuck in this cycle for a while now

  • @CherrySteinz
    @CherrySteinz Рік тому +95

    Honestly I've never heard somebody articulate this stuff so well. I've seen a lot of meta and analysis about Igor, I watched all of the Igor season of Dissect, but this one encapsulates a lot of points and details people miss. Kind of insane how much of this I've thought about alone in bed while listening to the album and wondered if anybody agrees. Specifically, you highlighting I DON'T LOVE YOU ANYMORE hit home for me, that song feels so potently important and this is the first time I've seen somebody point out that that track is Tyler SCREAMING that he doesn't love the guy anymore to drown out the truth, that he does still love him. I thought I was the only one reading it that way. There were parts of this that really recontextualized some of the songs for me, the ice water metaphor was so spot on and I never would've thought of that! Great video dude, thank you.

    • @JacksonsMusicPalate
      @JacksonsMusicPalate  Рік тому +4

      Thank you so much for your kind and articulate words! I am so comforted knowing others connect with this project in the way i do :)

  • @mrmilfs6092
    @mrmilfs6092 Рік тому +36

    going thru a breakup rn man, this video essay rlly did a toll on me, ur use of words legit just made me breakdown, after almost a year of holding on i think im finally able to move on

  • @GreggTheFrog
    @GreggTheFrog Рік тому +54

    I relate to this album on such the deepest level. It will always be my favorite, nothing will come close.

  • @zomgeek2236
    @zomgeek2236 Рік тому +51

    such a good album and ive felt EVERY song. really helped me through my heartbreak. i realized its okay to miss someone who was shitty but it doesnt mean that they should be in my life. since i tried to be friends with an ex but it just gave me way more hurt.

  • @niktonin7208
    @niktonin7208 2 роки тому +37

    DON'T SAY GOODBYE, SMELL YOU LATER
    loved the video, btw

    • @niktonin7208
      @niktonin7208 2 роки тому +1

      I found your thoughts SO relatable. It's the best review i've ever watched

    • @niktonin7208
      @niktonin7208 2 роки тому +1

      Also, where did you find live version of I DON'T LOVE YOU ANYMORE?

  • @angryman4305
    @angryman4305 Рік тому +13

    After i broke up with my first girlfriend i couldn't listen to music the same way i was used to, the lyrics finally made sense, especially one song by Vanilla fudge called "you keep me hanging on" as the lyrics matched the same situation i was going through when my ex gf was dumping me, all of the sudden i can enjoy more music too and i learn more about girls and their psychology, once you had your first heartbreak you are in the game and if there's one thing i learn is that you can let yourself fall in love as much as you want if you want but always expect her to pull away at some point and be ready to let her go at any moment also, and yeah crying/emotions whatever, throw that shit out the window, never show that to your girl...

  • @not.adelyn_
    @not.adelyn_ Рік тому +10

    thinking about it as him accepting being igor somehow just hurts so much more, i love how you talked about all of it. great video! best igor essay by far.

  • @jmad6476
    @jmad6476 Рік тому +24

    i really needed this album a few months ago. I wish i had it

    • @ericzaidenn
      @ericzaidenn Рік тому +5

      Instead of never (i had to lmao)

  • @Studio307Fredonia
    @Studio307Fredonia Рік тому +25

    This album taught me so much about heartbreak. I listened to it for the first time after going through my first serious breakup after a 2 year relationship. Wolf as well.

    • @gaav1nn
      @gaav1nn Рік тому

      i’m going through an extremely similar situation right now

  • @CrisisMoon7
    @CrisisMoon7 Рік тому +9

    I listened to this album in the perfect point in my life to where I could relate to Igor so much. The frustration and confusion, the empty feeling of feeling like a slave to them. This is one of my favorite albums ever and each track is a banger! If I listen to one song I have to listen to the rest.
    5:10pm
    Oct/20/23 Friday

  • @carloss.6250
    @carloss.6250 Рік тому +7

    I remember listening to this album as I graduated from high school and I was going through the worst breakup in my life for several reasons. I can't listen to the album without it hurting due to the reminder of what I was feeling at the time but goddamn does that mean Tyler absolutely killed the performance on this album. Mysterious music 🏆

  • @rileyg.5888
    @rileyg.5888 Рік тому +15

    The fact this has 40 something comments and 700 something likes is insanely criminal for how well this video was made. This shit was awesome and as much as I loved Igor before it’s made me love it even more. This shit was awesome keep making more man!

  • @anagram1531
    @anagram1531 Рік тому +7

    I love your Tyler videos cause they sound really personal and it really hits deep for me cause Tyler being my favorite artist and seeing people translating many of the feelings the songs transpire to me that I usually see unable to cough it out.
    It is really refreshing someone pointing how great Igor is in a more profound way.
    thanks man

  • @jafonsorocha7026
    @jafonsorocha7026 2 роки тому +21

    You deserve much more subs, this video was amazing

  • @joshiepx_
    @joshiepx_ Рік тому +3

    1:46, rumors might grasp the universal heartbreak that is on one single album. there are three songwriters with three completely different perspectives on love and heartbreak. also with lindsay and stevie going through their breakup during the albums production, and them both being songwriters, it shows two sides of the relationship. It also shows how they’re both dealing with loss which i think fully encapsulates heartbreak and the different types of heartbreak people experience. Also, with christine’s songs, they show the perspective of the heartbreak someone goes through when they have hurt someone else. So, for these reasons, i think rumors is not only one of the best albums of all time, but also the best album that fully encapsulates heartbreak.

    • @joshiepx_
      @joshiepx_ Рік тому

      ALSO, i do think igor is a great album at showcasing tho at showcasing heartbreak that can be universally connected with. both are great albums, no hate to the video my man

  • @kamikazefu-2364
    @kamikazefu-2364 Рік тому +11

    People like you and communities like this are what makes the music so much better .
    Much love for covering this heartbreaking masterpiece 💔

  • @kabobman4729
    @kabobman4729 Рік тому +4

    A insane in depth summary of one of my favorite albums IGOR

  • @LuizHenrique-ic9zo
    @LuizHenrique-ic9zo 2 роки тому +7

    idk how this video isnt popular,its just so good, keep going please

  • @theokaypot42
    @theokaypot42 Рік тому +13

    Im genuinely surprised this channel has less than 5k subs the amount of quality put into both the editing and analysis was incredible! Hope you make it big someday man you deserve it!

    • @JacksonsMusicPalate
      @JacksonsMusicPalate  Рік тому +5

      My friend, your comment was truly life giving and inspiring to me during a low point in motivation and clarity. It made my day reading it. Thank you :)

  • @nickbernstein3464
    @nickbernstein3464 Рік тому +5

    dude, this is so much better than the majority of popular music analysis channels. mfs are missing out

  • @toorikie
    @toorikie Рік тому +3

    Dudeee!!! Oh my gosh, 18:20 was amazing dude i feel like i got hit my a truck that was such a good like explanation of how the two songs relate wow omg

  • @sodadreemurr7005
    @sodadreemurr7005 Рік тому +4

    I am really attached to This album and seeing this video makes me more attached to to this album. You really opened up a door that I was looking for. Good video.

  • @nigaming5564
    @nigaming5564 Рік тому +8

    28:24 this immediately made me tear up bruh this is exactly what i relate to

  • @DemiDuMont
    @DemiDuMont Рік тому +3

    Sir you are a true therapist counselor / interpreter for the meaning behind a lot of things in life than just a thousand either way keep up the good work you seem humble and I love this video and I definitely relate to Tyler cuz I'm sure well it's obvious that you do take care and don't do that vicious cycle s***

  • @thePinkKitty3
    @thePinkKitty3 Рік тому +2

    I love Igor and your analysis was amazing! My fav song from the album is "I Think" and it was so enlightening to hear more about it

  • @nicholasv7560
    @nicholasv7560 Рік тому +5

    very excited to find your channel and excited to see how your video style develops great work

  • @natalieanderson5452
    @natalieanderson5452 2 роки тому +5

    I've never clicked so fast-
    You are one of my favorite creators!!!!

    • @JacksonsMusicPalate
      @JacksonsMusicPalate  2 роки тому

      Wow, thanks for your kind words. These comments are genuinely the best part of making videos!

  • @Sebastian-ie3wi
    @Sebastian-ie3wi Рік тому +4

    THIS DOCUMENTARY IS SO GOOD

  • @liammac
    @liammac Рік тому +3

    One of the best dissections Igor I’ve ever watched. Well done. I’m a massive fan of your stuff now dude

  • @ShaneBrewsterYT
    @ShaneBrewsterYT Рік тому +3

    amazing video. those 36 minutes absolutely flew by bro. wonderful insight and analysis of one of the greatest musical projects in recent history.

  • @yasmine_v1111
    @yasmine_v1111 8 місяців тому +1

    This video essay made me cry. I’ve been dealing with this particular loop for years. It gets better though. Good work

  • @Swanaenae
    @Swanaenae 8 місяців тому +1

    this is probs the best video essay I’ve watched abt Igor, it feels so personal while also having a good analysis of each track. Good video bro 😎

  • @aliensworkshop
    @aliensworkshop Рік тому +3

    I'm getting the IGOR vinyl tomorrow and I'm so excited

    • @ar7hur06
      @ar7hur06 9 місяців тому +1

      Cool! How is it??

    • @aliensworkshop
      @aliensworkshop 9 місяців тому

      @@ar7hur06 it's amazing I listen to it all the time, I have an entire vinyl collection now

    • @ar7hur06
      @ar7hur06 9 місяців тому +1

      @@aliensworkshop nice!!!

  • @joshhickey3256
    @joshhickey3256 6 місяців тому +1

    like my 5th time watching this. Still havent got bored of this

  • @lalalaaimeee
    @lalalaaimeee 3 місяці тому

    this video was made really well really underrated UA-camr

  • @zzto226
    @zzto226 Рік тому +5

    Dude You make this video 100% better🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
    Keep up with the amazing work man🙏🙏🙏

  • @DavidSanchez-mr4pt
    @DavidSanchez-mr4pt 9 місяців тому

    Gono gone thank you is one of the most relatable songs I’ve ever listened to

  • @gradzia3453
    @gradzia3453 6 місяців тому

    hi I just wanted to thank you for this video ! I found your commentary truly enlightening. Thank you so much :)

  • @kingofawesomerulse3625
    @kingofawesomerulse3625 4 місяці тому +1

    I always imagined new magic wand as tyler in his room by himself yelling either at nothing or at i pic of his lover. Just having a complete break down

  • @victorcobane6644
    @victorcobane6644 8 місяців тому

    Love your videos, they always help me appreciate my favorite albums more. Thank you!

  • @rosakami1588
    @rosakami1588 Рік тому

    Hey Jackson I'm concerned about you is your subscriber rate enough for you because the amount of work you put in you channel you deserve more than 8K subscribers and I truly mean that man. Good luck.

  • @scoundrel1692
    @scoundrel1692 Рік тому +1

    Just found your channel, love the content and keep up the great work!

  • @jaredlopez9483
    @jaredlopez9483 Рік тому +1

    Came across this video this week and I am a Tyler fan ofc became a true fan in 2021
    Backstory when CMIYGL came out I was on vacation with my family and the album came out and I didn’t like it or understand the message at first September comes I play the album again and I became in love now IGOR I tried the same thing and judged too harshly I would see fans say hey IGOR is better than CMIYGL and hardcore Tyler fans truly believe that even today and I was like nah CMIYGL is better than IGOR
    I had a 7 month relationship last year with a girl who was my first ever true girlfriend ever apart from flings and talking to someone I meant a true girlfriend and it felt like paradise my relationship ended in August because of xyz and I grieved for 6 months cried, felt pain, felt alone, insane depression, heartbreak, and just crazy nightmares about her, I couldn’t go one day without thinking about her even if it was just one little small bullshit detail not a day would pass where I wouldn’t think about her
    We arrive to January 2024
    I decide to pop in Igor and give it another shot
    When I say for those 6 months I was grieving believe me no one truly understood me no one not my group of friends not my family not my parents no one understood what I was going thru it was so easy for everyone to say you will get thru this and you’ll be fine which don’t get me wrong it’s true but it’s like they don’t feel the pain and agony I feel
    I pop the album in and my lord… does Tyler dissect every fucking emotion I felt in each song so well that it was like you said I really am IGOR myself
    as of right now I can say Tyler Stan’s are right IGOR is better than CMIYGL I have forgotten all about my troubles and more importantly I’ve learned to just say idgaf anymore it happened it’s over cool and I feel completely moved on…
    Thank you Tyler
    Thank you creator of this video
    I would’ve never understood this concept of the album if it wasn’t for you and Tyler thank you

  • @KadenBojan
    @KadenBojan 2 роки тому +16

    DON'T SAY GOODBYE, SMELL YOU LATER

  • @Kay_Cee_fr
    @Kay_Cee_fr Рік тому +4

    finally, someone talks about boyfriend 🙏

  • @Delibirdsandwhich
    @Delibirdsandwhich 6 місяців тому

    I want to quote earfquake beginning, "for real, for real, for real this time" this just another line that when i heard at first i was a bit confused, but at the end of the album it completely understood.

  • @GxueroTalkz
    @GxueroTalkz 2 роки тому +8

    Really nice explanation!! I think you should explore Joji's music especially with the new album coming out. Turns out there's a whole "jojiverse" to explore. Good luck! I'm going through a heartbreak right now and the music is so therapeutic.

  • @Matem8.
    @Matem8. Рік тому

    When Tyler said “ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar” I felt that😔

  • @hifellowhumans1
    @hifellowhumans1 11 місяців тому

    Sadness can be comforting.

  • @G_gorrila-x69
    @G_gorrila-x69 3 місяці тому +3

    Igor has happened to me multiple times

  • @pwrigor
    @pwrigor Рік тому

    this whole thing was so beautiful

  • @Itsyaboypope
    @Itsyaboypope 10 місяців тому +1

    Well, guess it's finally time to break it guys, don't you think? Sending love, happy healing y'all 🫶

  • @eagle56786
    @eagle56786 7 місяців тому

    this video is amazing. for many reasons i cannot properly articulate. ❤

  • @midasee
    @midasee Рік тому +2

    I just listened to the album again, and I don't think "i dont love you anymore" is in the wrong spot at all like i have seen many people say. i think it is there to intentionally undermine the growth igor had in the last song to show that he never really grew, and the cycle is going to repeat, but that is just my take on it 🤷🏼‍♂

  • @everestgreenest
    @everestgreenest Рік тому

    Truely a underrated youtuber

  • @SixteenTA
    @SixteenTA 2 роки тому

    This video is so good omg, see you at 1M views

  • @xlakaixx
    @xlakaixx 2 роки тому +3

    don’t say goodbyeeee smell you laterrrr!!

  • @Sh_ummer
    @Sh_ummer Рік тому

    I love u so much omg 😭😭

  • @stephonwingard
    @stephonwingard Рік тому

    Love the vid

  • @nayipe
    @nayipe 2 місяці тому

    I'm currently in the part where I'm currently putting up a front and telling all my friends that I hate him and moved on even if I clearly didn't and I keep checking out texts but I haven't talked to him since last month and yet I'm waiting for that text. Whenever I tell anyone that I moved on, it honestly feels like I'm trying to convince myself more than I'm trying to convince them.

  • @jakestan1185
    @jakestan1185 Рік тому +1

    7:30 the scientist is actually Frankenstein and “Frankenstein” is just the monster

  • @GC_2006
    @GC_2006 10 місяців тому

    Good video!

  • @rikippy
    @rikippy 10 місяців тому +1

    W video

  • @doutorcaxias
    @doutorcaxias 2 роки тому

    Nice video!

  • @EmilyTheMedic
    @EmilyTheMedic Рік тому +1

    I love this video, and it’s absolutely amazing, but…
    7:29 Doctor Frankenstein is the scientist, and his creation is just named Frankenstein’s Monster. 🤓

  • @thedivinemessenger
    @thedivinemessenger Рік тому

    AMAZING BREAKDOWN DOOD U JUST.. GET IT WOW THANKS!!! 😩😩

  • @rosary6521
    @rosary6521 8 місяців тому

    Best fucking album on heartbreak.

  • @Sneakilythehippo
    @Sneakilythehippo 9 місяців тому

    The real igor are the friends we made along the way

  • @WODKILLA93
    @WODKILLA93 10 місяців тому +1

    7:26 the monster isn’t Frankenstein, the scientist is Frankenstein. The monster is “Frankensteins monster” that’s its name.

  • @remyhavoc4463
    @remyhavoc4463 Рік тому

    Haven't watched it yet but I don't love you anymore is such an underrated gem that should be more popular
    I usually don't like TikTok but I kinda want I don't love you anymore to blow up thete so it can be more popular, the same way New Magic Wand blew up there
    It went from my least favourite to a top 3 song in the album for me

  • @udivya_rastogi7894
    @udivya_rastogi7894 Рік тому

    I fucking relate with it somuch I can't describe

  • @alexjustdrawz4891
    @alexjustdrawz4891 Рік тому

    28:54 where can I find this live I don't love you anymore video at

  • @joshhickey3256
    @joshhickey3256 10 місяців тому

    The first time I listened to igor was when I loved sombody who didn't like me back

  • @bobbybray2264
    @bobbybray2264 Рік тому

    This helped me get through my first real brakeup with my girlfriend of 1 year

  • @Insane_InTheBrain
    @Insane_InTheBrain Рік тому

    Don't say Goodbyeeeee Smell you laterrrr!!!!

  • @Steezer_Weezer
    @Steezer_Weezer Рік тому +2

    DONT SAY GOOD BYE. SMELL YOU LATER

  • @Alej_andr016
    @Alej_andr016 10 місяців тому

    If u know me in real life u would know I’m the biggest Kanye fan ever but this is my favorite album of all time ever it really relates to me I became friends with this person (calling him N) N has a cousin (Were gonna call A) I never really noticed her until I started talking to them but then I developed feelings for A but she would tell me about a crush (WHICH SHE LITERALLY CAN NOT GET HE DOESNT EVEN KNOW SHE EXISTS) so I would be overthinking and upset at her for not liking me (ik I’m a asshole) but recently I’ve been doing better things for myself Getting better haircuts getting rid of acne and she’s been nicer to me so idk if she likes me or not but throughout my crushing phase for her I’ve felt like this cycle I want to end it I’ll ask her out before August I’ll tell u guys how it goes 😭🙏🙏

  • @anthonyanderson4039
    @anthonyanderson4039 10 місяців тому +20

    Bro will say all this and claim flower boy is better than

  • @anarchypersonified
    @anarchypersonified 5 місяців тому +1

    4:22 where can i find this cover

  • @Baddiewithafattyy
    @Baddiewithafattyy Рік тому +1

    Bro started it like a UA-cam apology

  • @Glazing101
    @Glazing101 9 місяців тому

    Ну ты выдал бать...

  • @itss_starryy787
    @itss_starryy787 Рік тому

    WHATHE HELL IM LITERALLY IGOR WHAT WTHEYEHE
    😵

  • @Toeset
    @Toeset 8 місяців тому

    I just wanna point out something, Frankenstein isn’t the monster but the scientist.

  • @antonn-n6y
    @antonn-n6y 9 місяців тому

    Where is the new magic wand video from?

  • @rhombamcfierson
    @rhombamcfierson Рік тому +6

    In my opinion, this album isn’t just describing a romance. Personally, I have always been single (I mean I’m only in highschool) but I have applied the album to my friendships when they got tough.

  • @amerierai
    @amerierai 11 місяців тому

    I fucking love Tyler the creator

  • @booloo3616
    @booloo3616 9 місяців тому

    we dont talk about wolf

  • @ihwb3005
    @ihwb3005 Рік тому

    YES. ESPECIALLY THE MISEDUCATION OF LAURYN HILL.

  • @Susanna-oo2qd
    @Susanna-oo2qd Рік тому

    have you listened to blonde

  • @Saxjon
    @Saxjon 6 місяців тому +1

    FRANKENSTEIN IS THE SCIENTIST. His creation is Frankenstein's Monster

  • @WESTONW1ZARD
    @WESTONW1ZARD Рік тому +1

    I thought it was Frankensteins' monster

  • @itss_starryy787
    @itss_starryy787 Рік тому

    Hes just like me😢

  • @aidenflo24
    @aidenflo24 7 місяців тому +1

    Frankenstein’s monster actually 🤓