In regard to Crucial Ballistix kits, you can check if a kit you just bought is dual rank or not before opening it. There is an extension code right next to the part number. Only the part number is advertised, but you can see the extension code on the memory sticks through the packaging without opening it. Examples: BL2K16G36C16U4B. *M8FB1* vs BL2K16G36C16U4B. *M16FE1* That ''8'' and ''16'' is the number of memory chips per stick. (16 = dual rank). ''B'' means Micron rev B ''E'' means Micron rev E
Knowing what rank each memory kit is would be useful for us with high end ITX builds. They have only two ram slots so we cannot just buy two kits and get dual rank speeds that way.
I have 2 kits of 4500 gskill.. purchased at the same time. With consecutive serial numbers.. and one kit is a1 PCB and the other is A2 PCB. So there are 100% no guarantees just buying two of the same kit will all be the same.
Reminds me, one of you past vids about the MSI z490 unify inspired me to buy an eBay pair of 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3200c16 with dual rank samsung B die at the beginning of the year. I haven't tried pushing it to high voltages, but they happily run at 4133c17 at around 1.4v (with low SA and IO voltages). Couldn't be happier for under a hundred dollars for 32gb of dual rank at that everyday speed, and wouldn't have thought of it without this channel.
@Azzamits sk hynix cjr still great up there with same Samsung just as good just a about the same little behide www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/a4z89t/hynix_cjr_looks_great_very_close_to_bdie_presets/ still a bit better than the 3.31v one i got and sent back happy
@Azzam you cleary didnt look it up very much or at the reddit post they tight up nicely from what ive read/seen iam yet to try it my self ill let you know but from what ive seen its on par just behide which is great
normie understanding of video, 1) if you want 100% dual rank you'll have to go with 4x8GB or 2x32GB gigs. 2) Higher mhz means higher bin quality which translate to better overclock 3) don't buy 2400mhz ram, it's trash 3) secondary timings just as important as cas if not more. 4) buy crucial for high compatibility 5) buy g.skill if you are looking for fancy b-die
3). Had to for someone, we did an super el cheapo build so 2400 15-15-15-35 at 1.2V is the best bin I could find for the rock bottom prices. We'll see if and how it overclocks. 5). My personal build has that fancy b-die, thank you.
Thanks a lot pro , does 3200 mhz part of the high frequency? I’m thinking to buy 4x8gb crucial basilisk for better compatibility but unfortunately they don’t provide 4 rams kit only 2 per kit ?
Nanya(Patriot Viper 3200 cl16) and Sk Hynix(Corsair Vengeance 3200 cl16) are what's reported in cpuz . Used Ryzen Dram calculator and my system works at 3266 4x8GB cl16. It wouldn't even post before . To me , that seems like black magic and i am happy. Buildzoid will help you identify the best ram based on speed/timing etc.
I bought 2x16gb Crucial ballistix black and they were single ranked. Returned them and bought 2x16gb G.Skill Ripjaws V and they are dual ranked so those were the ones I settled on. They are Hynix C-die.
Might be a dumb question but is the gskill 4000 cl16 kit better than the 4000 cl 17 kit? I'm asking because of the timings that follow cas. 17 18 18 18 sounds "tighter" than 16 19 19 19.
Do you have any thoughts on using the Motherboard QVL lists to determine what chip something uses? The ASUS ones lists the Chip maker on their QVL, and MSI's is searchable and lists the full chip type, like "Samsung 5WB". I know that's not going to be definitive, because different chips in the same batch, but is it at least a decent guideline for what something might be, especially for the higher performance stuff that could only be one of a couple of chips?
I picked up a DR 32gb kit and got 14-14-14-28, 42, 8, 2s, 4s/16 and 252 stable at 3600 BCLK 101, 1T. 1.45, 1.2 soc, 1150 vddg, 1100 vddp per your recs for daily use. With GDM I can do straight ridiculous stuff. I hit timings lower on this DR kit at given frequencies than my best two sticks (out of four) of that same team-group dimms you have. Is it possible they weirdly bin the B-die chips destined for B-die even more aggressively than even the most aggressively binned SRs at a given rating? They would kind of have to for guaranteeing stability. On one hand, More chips = more chances at a bad chip, on the other hand, more chips means they had to bin the chips harder. I could have just lucked out though. It’s just a 3200 14-14-14-32 (@1.35) kit from G. Skill. Seems to be in every way better than the 3600 14-14-15-36 (@1.45) bin from teamgroup I got. Idk if I got the right TRAS numbers there but I think you know which bins I’m talking about. My strat for Ryzen has been “max the voltages to safe for daily, hit 3600, and tighten.” Weirdly though, I got the kit stable by doing a lot of unorthodox things. I’m on a 5900x, so pretty much all aspects of overclocking is weird thermal voodoo magic between various components. Water-cooling and undervolting my GPU was huge for system stability.
I know this is a bit specific but I am putting together a system based around the ROG Crosshair VIII Impact board and 5900X. Yeah it will be used for gaming but it will also moonlight for dev work (inc VM's) so I need 32GB ram (64GB would be nice but I believe that would be too expensive). I want to be able to push this thing to the absolute limit I can. What would be your recommendations for a 2x16 or 2x32 kit for a build like this?
Your opinions on my opinion... as that currently RAM keeps the price so well right now, just buy the full sets, and sell your old odd set, if upgrading from 1 to 2 or 2 to 4 etc sticks. PS, Kingston RAM is noted on their website as to if it's 64 or 128 bit (single or dual rank).
Went with 4x8 3600 c14. running at 3800 c14 14 14 28 52 trfc 262 . I do agree with you, 32gb of ram took me 18 hours to just validate that my overclock is stable " 2000% memtest on each thread ", BTW thanks for the video ! EDIT: XMP wouldnt be stable
Has anyone tried taking higher clocked kits, e.g., a DDR4 4000 or 4266, but downclocking it to 3600 or 3800 speeds and then seeing how much the timings can be tightened up if paired with a small voltage bump?
Thinking about getting the 5900/5950X + ASUS x570 Dark Hero + either the Corsair CMK32GX4M2Z4000C18 (2x16GB 18-22-22-42 1.35v Micron B) or Corsair CMK32GX4M4K4000C19(Ver4.31) (4x8GB 19-23-23-45 1.35v Samsung something), leaning towards the 2x16 kit. These are the only DR 4GHz kits on the ASUS QVL. Would this be a Buidzoid approved decision?
I know that Dual rank memory puts more stress on the cpus memory controller, but what if I have 4 dual rank sticks? Is it quad rank then? Do you get performance benefits here? Does it put even more stress on the cpus memory controller? Assuming Z490 of course
What settings can I OC my f4-3200c14-8gtz Single rank (I have 4 of them in my z490 MSI Unify with a i7-10700kf) 14-14-14-34-48 3200Mhz ram 32GB . Originally purchased as a "Quad channel" kit for my i7-5930k back in 2019. But I upgraded and transferred the memory over to my new build. Any help is appreciated. Thank you!!
Just picked up two sets of these on Newegg, since it's crucial it should be the same memory modules and hopefully it'll play well together at it's rated speeds in dual rank D: Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G36C16U4W (WHITE)
Buildzoid, if it's not out of your remit, would you have any guideline on which is the safer way to go about doubling the capacity down the line without buying a new kit of double capacity? It doesn't concern overclocking so it's probably not very interesting for you but let's suppose that I got my 2x 8GB kit running according to its XMP profile. My system is an ordinary dual channel (let's say 3700X on B550) and I fitted one 1-rank module per channel. After some time, happy with the performance, I find myself needing 32GB so I try to buy another pair of 1-rank modules with the same (or better?) specs on paper. I may not be able to find the same manufacturer and model. I don't want to try my luck, I'm not temped by overclocking, I just want my 3600 16-18-18-38 1.35V to happily work alongside a new kit with the same (or better) specs. What is most likely to go wrong? And would it be more sensible to place the two modules from the same kit on the same channel?
does crucial guarantee to use MICRON chips? Guess that I should consider me lucky for having a 2x32 3600mhz Crucial, never knew I could tighten up timings good
the 3600cl16\3200cl14 trident bdies are what is mostly in stock. the 4000cl16 is a unicorn and the subtimings are not as tight. what about a few minutes about those?
Interestingly PC part picker doesnt list my RAM kit: 2x16GB GSkill B-die Ripjaws 4000 17-18-18-38 - F4-4000C17-16GVKB Managed to snatch a set before christmas for 250€ Buildzoid actually missed the kit at 43:38, going for 279 atm
Nice idea in paper, but as the ram is not horizontal, the LM may well run.. Also a Cpu cooler clamps at muuuch higher pressure Vs ram heatsinks, so more reason that it might leak.
I have a 2x16gb kit of Ripjaws V rated at 3600mhz 16-19-19-39 (model no: F4-3600C16D-32GVKC). Thaiphoon burner shows it as dual rank Hynix CJR. I haven't tried overclocking it, but it runs stable at xmp with a 5900x and Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming
I have Patriot Viper RGb 3600Mhz cl16-18-18-18-36 In thaipoon burner it says Samsung with b die. But at some point got (down binned?) Bdie have rank? Good b die Bad bdie 2x8 3800/Fclk 1900 cl14 achieved 4X8 3800/1900 cl16 only. Is dual rank(4x8Gb) hard to oc?
Hum... I thought 16GB ram sticka usually where dual rank? So I just order two 16GB Crucial Ballistix 3000Mhz CL15 sticks of amazon. They where just 52 euro each. So not sold in pair either. Is it a big risk I will get two separate manufacturers? And also the risk of getting single rank sticks?
What's the benefit of having 4 dual rank dimms? I have 1 set of Corsair Vengeacen Pro 2X16GB ver 5.32 (Hynix) and 1 set of the same 2X16GB ver 4.32 (Samsung) both 3200mts but with the 4 I can't run more than 3133.
I have the G Skill 3600 Cl 16-16-16-36 kit, and it is dual rank and will do Cl 14-14-14-30 and 288 tRFC at 1.47v. Great kit, gets me to 53ns latency on my X570i Strix. Highly recommend for Ryzen
Im not overly knowledgeable on ram timings and such but using my motherboards manufactor support sheet I looked through possible 2x16GB kits that had B die, grabbed a corsair pair straight from their website, the LPX. I dont know where I heard this but I got told somewhere, that specifically the 2x16GB 3200mhz CL16 lpx kits from corsairs website only (weird ik) are always B die only specifically those sticks, I can say the ones that are in my PC using thaiphoon burner read as B die that could just be luck though and the ones in my Mrs PC is also B die again that could just be pure luck they were purchased at least 1 year apart but both off of corsairs website rather than amazon or such...
Hey buildzoid, i bought 2 kits of the viper steel 2x8 4400mhz because i was thinking about upgrade my old r5 1600 with some new stuff (intel or amd it will depend on which one will offer the bast value for a gaming cpu). Now i was wondering if for mainly gaming purposes, going 4x8 to get them working in dual rank is it going to be a waste of money (in which case i would return one of the kit) or will it be a good move to get a little bit more of future proof when i'm going to upgrade my gpu with something like rtx 4000 or rx 7000? Also is it worth to wait for the new ddr5 INTEL or AMD platforms?
I got relatively lucky with my 4 x 8gb corsair sticks I didn't buy them at the same time so really lucky. 2 sticks are Samsung B die (newer stuff) and 2 sticks are Hynix (something). The hynix stuff is rated for 3000 and the Samsung as 3200 both CL16. I can't get it to run 3200 cl16 but it runs fine at 3000 CL16 so that's ok. Solo the hynix will do 3600 CL18 or 3200CL16 but I wanted the more ram and duel rank so will sacrifice a bit of raw speed for that.
I love your videos. I really clicked on your OC testing of ram for taking so long, but, couldn't you remove the sticks and do one stick at a time for testing? I realize that you test when OC'ing wouldn't you still find the faulty stick?
Yes you could IF you were only validating that the ram was physically faulty. Doing your proposed method when wanting to OC both sticks won't accomplish anything sadly.
You are correct that ICs could be different in the same stick SKU even in DDR2 days. I had one stick in a 2x2GB G.Skill kit that was replaced under warranty with a stick made with different ICs.
G.Skill royal / neo / RGB are pretty much all the same sticks with different shells. Even the LED diffuser from royals work on the other ones. 3600 32GB kit is dual rank H5AN8G8NCJR 16-19-19-36
I bought 2x16 gb corsair rgb 3200mhz cl16. I Overclocked it to cl14 3600mhz...is it still decent?.they're micron D die. I could technically stil return it but idk?
Even with an explanation its super hard to choose I want 4x8gb (2x2x8gb only saves about $10 here, so I'll take the 4x8 safety). I keep flipping between $250 for 3600 cl18-22--22-34, $369 for 3600 cl16-16-16-36 or $578 for cl14-14-14-36. I hate hover spending, but I also don't want to shoot myself in the foot and with 11th gen I don't want to have to worry about 2nd great by going over 3600. I'll probably go the CL14 kit incase I get stuck with my first ram overlock. then I can fall back to the XMP.
I have not picked the 4000c17-GTZR but c19-16GTRS. Lists as Dual Ranks in GPU-z and is happy to run at 1.212V instead of XMPs 1.35. So 4000c19d-32GTRS kit which, to my surprise is listed for over 600bucks in this video. And well its a Samsung. The S stands for silver. Guess the R for royal and the T for trident, who have thought.
Did you find any eventual problems or indicators or problems while overclocking the 4 sticks? That's my main concern currently, as I'm missing only the memory sticks to finish my build
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking : I've got a question that's simply out of curiosity.. You mention that a manufacturer such as Corsair will use any memory chip that's available at the time, and also its my understanding that kits of sticks are sold together because they know they work together. My question is, and keep in mind this doesn't necessarily make sense to do, its just a theoretical situation.. what would happen if you had say 4x8GB Corsair 3600MHz CL18 sticks that came together as a kit (32GB total) and then took out 2 sticks and put in sticks from a 2x8GB Corsair 3600MHz CL18 kit? (so the idea is that they *should* be the same sticks individually and you'd still have the same setup and 32GB in total). Could there potentially be a problem because of different memory chips or maybe because they weren't paired at the factory or could both if those factors be a problem? I'm just really curious about it.
The 2x8GB that you want to theoretically add later on, will not be guaranteed to work. Under the hood the ram could be totally different modules Vs the original 4, which would be the same & have been validated at the factory to work together. All that said, it could work, but you likely won't be able to OC the ram as much by mixing and matching. Hope that makes sense.
Depends on Motherboard as well. As in does it support it? Anyway going off the part number alone, that's a G.Skill DDR4 3200 CL14 32GB(8GBx4 - Q in Part# = Quad) kit. FYI, ALL G.Skill 32GB CL14-14-14-34 kits are Dual Rank Modules in Dual or Quad kit form. This would pair very well with a 5600X. FWIW, I run the Flare X version of that kit(-32GFX) on a B550M mobo with a 3800XT. CPU-Z reports the Modules as Dual Rank.
I need some advice to get my RAM to 3600Mhz, RAM is Crucial Ballistix BL2K32G32C16U4B 2x32GB Kit (64 GB total) 3200mhz 16-18-18-36. They are dual rank Micron B-Die, august 2021. Motherboard is asus crosshair vi hero x370 with 8503 bios. CPU is Ryzen 5800X I used dram calculator 1.7.3 to get speeds for 3400Mhz, I choose Zen 2, A0/B0, 2 rank, 2 dimm modules, b350/x370, 100 bclk and Micron E/H-die (because the software is not updated for 16GB B-die) and it's stable with Fast preset at 3400Mhz. I get 64ns in Aida64. 49.1 gb/s read, 27.2 gb/s write, 48.2 gb/s copy. I get post for 3466 and 3533 with Safe and Fast preset, but Windows BSOD during startup And I get no post with the settings for 3600mhz, is there any setting that prevent the system to not post? What should I try? I wanted this kit to do 3600. Well it's fine because it's dual rank and 3400 DR is faster and smoother than SR at 3800 I assume. Thank you.
I don't oc memory at the moment but I did need 64gb for adobe lightroom. I bought 2 kits of G.Skill F4-3200C16-16GVK. All the chips are samsung and cpu-z says dual rank on all of them. all 16-18-18-38 and my xmp profile works with all 4 installed. Guess I got kinda lucky
I bought the 4000MHz Ripjaw V kit (offshoot of the Trident showed at 7:00) because I saw it for $200 and have been using old 2800MHz RAM since I switched to Ryzen in January 2020 that is rated for CL15, but running at CL19 because ASUS refuses to support it so it fails POST at its rated, or any custom, timing.. even manually inputting CL20 at 1666MHz. 8GB DR Hynix M-die sticks. This 4000 kit is single rank and some weird Hynix chip that wasn't really labeled in Typhoon Burner and DRAM calculator wouldn't even load the XMP dump. Listed as "H5ANAG8N[M/A]JR-VKC" Have no idea how to get my 3950x to 2000FCLK, so I've been running it at 3600/1800 CL18 (will try tuning 3800/1900 later); latency is 70ns and I haven't seen a single increase in performance in any benchmark or game I've tested. Synthetic memory testing shows everything higher.. but real world performance has been no different so far. So, I randomly stumbled across this video in my feed and I'm hoping it ends up helping, as I refuse to believe jumping so high up in memory frequency does nothing. I really don't want to spend the money upgrading when DDR5 is on the horizon, but if I need to jump to a 64GB DR B-die kit for my 3950 (5950 someday..) to actually gain big, then I'll try to swallow it.
So I just returned G.SKILL DDR4000 16-19-19-39 for DDR3600 14-15-15-36. I keep going back and forth between whether I made the right choice. Per the leaks, RKL FCLK only syncs up to 3733, so I would have had to drop the 4000 kit anyway. Beyond that, the 3600 kit has the best of the 3 B dies where as the 4000 kit had the worst, the 3600 kit has SPPR, SPD revision 1.1, and higher factory J-DEC (which means nothing). Tell me I didn't make a mistake, but be honest if I did. The 3600 kit is rare and sells out quickly where as the 4000 kit restocks often.
So did you end up happy? I'm considering buying 3600cl14/15/15 kit also for 405eur but i kinda wonder how many more fps i can clock out of it than regular 3600c16/16/16 that costs 330eur. Both are in stock. Running 5950x with Unify.
@@sp00n Yeah. I got mine to 3600 CL14-15-14-28 @ 1.46V. But if I use only 2 sticks, I easily reach 3866 CL16 @ 1.44V (didn't bother to optimise sub-timings as it was just a quick test)
@@aaron_333 I was able to achieve 3600 MHz/14-14-14-26-7-7-28-320-32767-T1*/1.45 V using 4X16 GiB G.Skill Ripjaw V kit and it passed Firestrike and Time Spy without any ill effects. My VCCSA/VCCIO/uncore voltage was set to 1.25 V for both tests. *7: tRRD_S/tRRD_L; 28: tFAW; 320: tRFC; tREFI: 32767; force memory retraining enabled; all other timings set to auto.
@@NUCLEARARMAMENT Yea I'm able to get my 4000Mhz C17 sticks to 3600Mhz CL 14-14-14-14-28 at 1.435v at T1 and all that. I could go even faster but I think my 5950x's memory controller is already crying in agony along with my wallet and it runs into stability issues with memory tests. Honestly considering it's well below the 8ns speed with over 99.9999% of the ram tested for 0 errors I'm happy. Edit: real world speeds in the low 50s iirc in ns. I think 52 but it's beena hot minute lol.
Some people say it is ok to mix memory but I like to keep it all as much the same as possible. I never had a memory error because of that. It probably helped that when I bought my 32 GB of DDR3, I got it as all at once from the same seller as if it was a kit. That was of course back before the market became the shitstorm of scalping that it is now.
It would be interesting to see a look at whether new BIOS/AGESA in x570 b550 boards are now capable of IF 4000 (maybe newer MB production runs are better). 3800 is nice, but what the heck.
I got a b550 gigabyte board a couple of weeks ago, its a revision and the qvl indicates at least some support for 5000mhz. only on 2 x 8gb on watever sticks they were. I didn't even look because 5000mhz support probably isn't great but there was support for several 4000mhz kits and several higher speeds. I didn't have much luck finding a revised x570 board that wasn't greater than $500
I got really lucky, with some G.SKILL Sniper X F4 3200 cl16 2x16, according to typhoon burner it is Samsung B-die. I still have to tickle them a bit to let them run faster.
great video, can some one help me this is the ram i have VENGEANCE® RGB PRO 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz C18 AMD Ryzen Memory Kit - Black but the problem is that is single rank only i wanted a dual rank ram. can anyone help me why is single rank. thank you
A couple of days ago i came across a 2x16gb trident z rgb 3200 MHz cl14 kit for 220 Euro (~280$) and i thought, that must be b-die, lets get into RAM OC
Went memory shopping recently. All 3200 cl14 2x16gb went out of stock. Tired of waiting and wanted it to just work. Bought 2x16gb 3600 cl14 for 300. 💪🏽
I also have the same one, Royal Gold. It was the last one and is very rare. Still have to test it though, currently I'd like to finish with OC capabilities of the 4 single rank kits I also have. I think they go in this order: 3600 14-15-15 1.45V = 3800 14-16-16 1.5V = 4266 17-18-18 1.5V > 4000 16-19-19 1.4V > 4000 17-18-18 1.4V > 4000 19-19-19 1.35V
Oldschool mice did not have a 3rd button / wheel so there is possibility bz is using an old mouse. He might scroll with pg up/ down buttons on keyboard or even worse using arrows *eugh* /jk
@El Cactuar Nah, i'm only 40yrs and i agree with him. We didn't even have scroll wheels to click at the time of windows 3.11 so why would we need to click it now? Actually i much more prefered the actual mouse middle button of the 90s for gaming instead of the useless scroll wheel thats only good for browsing web, which you could do just as well with arrow keys. Bring back mice with three on top buttons! Yeah! No? Okay, then.
For the GSKILL TridentZ kits, i know that if the code name ends with C (e.g. F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC) then the chips are SK Hynix. If there is no C I think it means Samsung but I'm not sure if it's always the case. Taking the tridentz neo 32G 2600 C15, there's two variants: the F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC, and the F4-3600C16D-32GTZN. The second one should be Samsung B-die.
@@plu2 I used to have the royal version of that kit before upgrading. Yes they are b dies and I have overclocked that set to 3800Mhz CL16 or so at 1.45v. not insanely bumpy in performance but no slouch too. I could do 3800Mhz with CL14 but looser timings were required even at 1.5v.
CMK64GX4M2Z4000C18 is Micron Rev B. Bought a pair before they disapeared of the face of the earth. 3733 RAM/1866 IF 16-18-18-36-1T tRFC 582 (5600x) Tuned system latency 60-62ns.
how bad is this Hynix H5ANAG8N[M/A]JR-VKC RAM, Its in the 2x32gb G-Skill F4-3600C18D-64GTZR. Price was right at $269.00 now its $329.00 US Currently running at 3733 1.35v on a Asus Prime x570 Pro. haven't messed with the timings
In regard to Crucial Ballistix kits, you can check if a kit you just bought is dual rank or not before opening it. There is an extension code right next to the part number. Only the part number is advertised, but you can see the extension code on the memory sticks through the packaging without opening it.
Examples: BL2K16G36C16U4B. *M8FB1* vs BL2K16G36C16U4B. *M16FE1*
That ''8'' and ''16'' is the number of memory chips per stick. (16 = dual rank).
''B'' means Micron rev B
''E'' means Micron rev E
Cool! Thanks for the info.
do you know if corsair has a feature like this?
Knowing what rank each memory kit is would be useful for us with high end ITX builds. They have only two ram slots so we cannot just buy two kits and get dual rank speeds that way.
indeed, Corsair with their "we'd put Poptarts on Sticks if it would work" ratings.
I have 2 kits of 4500 gskill.. purchased at the same time. With consecutive serial numbers.. and one kit is a1 PCB and the other is A2 PCB. So there are 100% no guarantees just buying two of the same kit will all be the same.
What is A1 or A2 PCB?
I have 2x 8Gb 4266c19 and 2x 8Gb 4133c17, both sets Trident Z RGB. How would be best to run them?
No this is not filler!!!
This is what we wanted!
Thank you!
Reminds me, one of you past vids about the MSI z490 unify inspired me to buy an eBay pair of 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3200c16 with dual rank samsung B die at the beginning of the year. I haven't tried pushing it to high voltages, but they happily run at 4133c17 at around 1.4v (with low SA and IO voltages). Couldn't be happier for under a hundred dollars for 32gb of dual rank at that everyday speed, and wouldn't have thought of it without this channel.
Corsair: Bin different
Corsair’s recent 16GB sticks have a lot of Rev B. Ver3.40 and 3.44. They seem to do very high frequencies.
In general it seems very hard to find those, also, Corsair is always a level below G.Skill with latencies.
i ordered dominator platinum from amazon eu and instead of getting 3.31v i got 5.32v witch ones the better chip?
@Azzamits sk hynix cjr still great up there with same Samsung just as good just a about the same little behide www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/a4z89t/hynix_cjr_looks_great_very_close_to_bdie_presets/ still a bit better than the 3.31v one i got and sent back happy
@Azzam you cleary didnt look it up very much or at the reddit post they tight up nicely from what ive read/seen iam yet to try it my self ill let you know but from what ive seen its on par just behide which is great
@@TonciJukic always?
Can't wait till Buildzoid is going to explore the upcoming DDR5 world.
normie understanding of video, 1) if you want 100% dual rank you'll have to go with 4x8GB or 2x32GB gigs. 2) Higher mhz means higher bin quality which translate to better overclock 3) don't buy 2400mhz ram, it's trash 3) secondary timings just as important as cas if not more. 4) buy crucial for high compatibility 5) buy g.skill if you are looking for fancy b-die
Lovely, thank you!
Which g skill ram I stupid enough not to buy?
I want to get really low cas latency overclock
3). Had to for someone, we did an super el cheapo build so 2400 15-15-15-35 at 1.2V is the best bin I could find for the rock bottom prices. We'll see if and how it overclocks.
5). My personal build has that fancy b-die, thank you.
Thanks a lot pro , does 3200 mhz part of the high frequency? I’m thinking to buy 4x8gb crucial basilisk for better compatibility but unfortunately they don’t provide 4 rams kit only 2 per kit ?
Normies have to come into the picture :D I love it when he mentions us ATLEAST :D
It's 6am
I need to sleep
I see a buildzoid video
It's 50+ minutes
I clicked lol
HIs videos does acts like a lullaby too in case you need that
Damn. Same thing here. Three months later. It's 6:04 am.
Nanya(Patriot Viper 3200 cl16) and Sk Hynix(Corsair Vengeance 3200 cl16) are what's reported in cpuz . Used Ryzen Dram calculator and my system works at 3266 4x8GB cl16. It wouldn't even post before . To me , that seems like black magic and i am happy. Buildzoid will help you identify the best ram based on speed/timing etc.
FYI, the G.Skill 2x32GB 4000MHz TridentZ RGB kit I bought was Hynix 16Gb MJR (F4-4000C18D-64GTZR resp. F4-4000C18-32GTZR).
same in my case 2 seperate kits
I bought 2x16gb Crucial ballistix black and they were single ranked. Returned them and bought 2x16gb G.Skill Ripjaws V and they are dual ranked so those were the ones I settled on. They are Hynix C-die.
A video on the ddr5 standards would be appreciated. Thanks for this video.
HI! Thanks for the vid! BTW, probably "b die finder" will help in future!
Might be a dumb question but is the gskill 4000 cl16 kit better than the 4000 cl 17 kit? I'm asking because of the timings that follow cas. 17 18 18 18 sounds "tighter" than 16 19 19 19.
Do you have any thoughts on using the Motherboard QVL lists to determine what chip something uses? The ASUS ones lists the Chip maker on their QVL, and MSI's is searchable and lists the full chip type, like "Samsung 5WB". I know that's not going to be definitive, because different chips in the same batch, but is it at least a decent guideline for what something might be, especially for the higher performance stuff that could only be one of a couple of chips?
I picked up a DR 32gb kit and got 14-14-14-28, 42, 8, 2s, 4s/16 and 252 stable at 3600 BCLK 101, 1T. 1.45, 1.2 soc, 1150 vddg, 1100 vddp per your recs for daily use. With GDM I can do straight ridiculous stuff.
I hit timings lower on this DR kit at given frequencies than my best two sticks (out of four) of that same team-group dimms you have.
Is it possible they weirdly bin the B-die chips destined for B-die even more aggressively than even the most aggressively binned SRs at a given rating? They would kind of have to for guaranteeing stability.
On one hand, More chips = more chances at a bad chip, on the other hand, more chips means they had to bin the chips harder.
I could have just lucked out though. It’s just a 3200 14-14-14-32 (@1.35) kit from G. Skill. Seems to be in every way better than the 3600 14-14-15-36 (@1.45) bin from teamgroup I got. Idk if I got the right TRAS numbers there but I think you know which bins I’m talking about.
My strat for Ryzen has been “max the voltages to safe for daily, hit 3600, and tighten.”
Weirdly though, I got the kit stable by doing a lot of unorthodox things. I’m on a 5900x, so pretty much all aspects of overclocking is weird thermal voodoo magic between various components. Water-cooling and undervolting my GPU was huge for system stability.
I know this is a bit specific but I am putting together a system based around the ROG Crosshair VIII Impact board and 5900X. Yeah it will be used for gaming but it will also moonlight for dev work (inc VM's) so I need 32GB ram (64GB would be nice but I believe that would be too expensive). I want to be able to push this thing to the absolute limit I can. What would be your recommendations for a 2x16 or 2x32 kit for a build like this?
I got Crucial Elite 4x8GB 3600 and tightened it to 14-17-17-17 (1.42v) (Zen 2). Do you think they can go lower, and any tips to do so?
Prices have gone up quite a bit. I picked up the FlareX 32 GB 3200c14 kit last year for around $330 CAD and it eventually dropped below $300.
So, this _F4-3800C14D-32GTZN_ for the 3800X and the Gigabyte Aorus B550I AORUS PRO AX? Or would recommend something else?
Your opinions on my opinion... as that currently RAM keeps the price so well right now, just buy the full sets, and sell your old odd set, if upgrading from 1 to 2 or 2 to 4 etc sticks.
PS, Kingston RAM is noted on their website as to if it's 64 or 128 bit (single or dual rank).
Went with 4x8 3600 c14. running at 3800 c14 14 14 28 52 trfc 262 . I do agree with you, 32gb of ram took me 18 hours to just validate that my overclock is stable " 2000% memtest on each thread ", BTW thanks for the video !
EDIT: XMP wouldnt be stable
Has anyone tried taking higher clocked kits, e.g., a DDR4 4000 or 4266, but downclocking it to 3600 or 3800 speeds and then seeing how much the timings can be tightened up if paired with a small voltage bump?
Thinking about getting the 5900/5950X + ASUS x570 Dark Hero + either the Corsair CMK32GX4M2Z4000C18 (2x16GB 18-22-22-42 1.35v Micron B) or Corsair CMK32GX4M4K4000C19(Ver4.31) (4x8GB 19-23-23-45 1.35v Samsung something), leaning towards the 2x16 kit. These are the only DR 4GHz kits on the ASUS QVL.
Would this be a Buidzoid approved decision?
I know that Dual rank memory puts more stress on the cpus memory controller, but what if I have 4 dual rank sticks? Is it quad rank then? Do you get performance benefits here? Does it put even more stress on the cpus memory controller?
Assuming Z490 of course
What settings can I OC my f4-3200c14-8gtz Single rank (I have 4 of them in my z490 MSI Unify with a i7-10700kf) 14-14-14-34-48 3200Mhz ram 32GB . Originally purchased as a "Quad channel" kit for my i7-5930k back in 2019. But I upgraded and transferred the memory over to my new build. Any help is appreciated. Thank you!!
Just picked up two sets of these on Newegg, since it's crucial it should be the same memory modules and hopefully it'll play well together at it's rated speeds in dual rank D:
Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G36C16U4W (WHITE)
Buildzoid,
if it's not out of your remit, would you have any guideline on which is the safer way to go about doubling the capacity down the line without buying a new kit of double capacity?
It doesn't concern overclocking so it's probably not very interesting for you but let's suppose that I got my 2x 8GB kit running according to its XMP profile. My system is an ordinary dual channel (let's say 3700X on B550) and I fitted one 1-rank module per channel.
After some time, happy with the performance, I find myself needing 32GB so I try to buy another pair of 1-rank modules with the same (or better?) specs on paper. I may not be able to find the same manufacturer and model.
I don't want to try my luck, I'm not temped by overclocking, I just want my 3600 16-18-18-38 1.35V to happily work alongside a new kit with the same (or better) specs. What is most likely to go wrong? And would it be more sensible to place the two modules from the same kit on the same channel?
does crucial guarantee to use MICRON chips?
Guess that I should consider me lucky for having a 2x32 3600mhz Crucial, never knew I could tighten up timings good
the 3600cl16\3200cl14 trident bdies are what is mostly in stock. the 4000cl16 is a unicorn and the subtimings are not as tight. what about a few minutes about those?
I got 2 x 16GB GSkill Royal 3600 16-16-16, am pre happy! On Apex 12.
Im on x299 dark running 4x8 viper 4400 cl19s.
How much performance would i gain going 4x16 with dual rank sticks?
I have a 2x8GB + 2x16GB both are 3200mhz | CL16 18 18 38. It works but what are the downside?
On a z590 ace mobo can you run 1.40v ram or only go with the 1.35? Running it with a 10900k.
I got some g.skill 3200 cl 14-14-14-34 is there any way to find out what the chips are without having to remove the heat spreader?
Interestingly PC part picker doesnt list my RAM kit:
2x16GB GSkill B-die Ripjaws 4000 17-18-18-38 - F4-4000C17-16GVKB
Managed to snatch a set before christmas for 250€
Buildzoid actually missed the kit at 43:38, going for 279 atm
can we get a brutal zoid special putting liquid metal on a ddr4 kit and have it boot?
Nice idea in paper, but as the ram is not horizontal, the LM may well run.. Also a Cpu cooler clamps at muuuch higher pressure Vs ram heatsinks, so more reason that it might leak.
I have 2x 8Gb 4266c19 and 2x 8Gb 4133c17, both sets Trident Z RGB. How would be best to run them?
Thanks mate, I always though 16GB sticks were always dual rank.....saved me some heartache
hey buildzoid i just bought cmk16gx4m2z3200c16 ver8.31...what do you think about them? any suggestions about oc? plz help!
I have a 2x16gb kit of Ripjaws V rated at 3600mhz 16-19-19-39 (model no: F4-3600C16D-32GVKC). Thaiphoon burner shows it as dual rank Hynix CJR. I haven't tried overclocking it, but it runs stable at xmp with a 5900x and Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming
So dual rank 2 stiks, 3600 cl16 needs to be a 64gb kit? Does this still hold up in Dec 2022?
I have Patriot Viper RGb 3600Mhz cl16-18-18-18-36
In thaipoon burner it says Samsung with b die.
But at some point got (down binned?)
Bdie have rank?
Good b die
Bad bdie
2x8 3800/Fclk 1900 cl14 achieved
4X8 3800/1900 cl16 only.
Is dual rank(4x8Gb) hard to oc?
Hum... I thought 16GB ram sticka usually where dual rank? So I just order two 16GB Crucial Ballistix 3000Mhz CL15 sticks of amazon. They where just 52 euro each. So not sold in pair either. Is it a big risk I will get two separate manufacturers? And also the risk of getting single rank sticks?
I got the trident z neo 3600 2x16 16-16-16 kit for 2799 SEK (about 280e). Since it was for a 5900x i didnt want to spend more for the 4000-kits.
My trident z 3600C17-16GTZR shows as hynix CJR on typhoon burner so id guess the 32GTZR is also CJR as the timings are the same
what was the best overclockable ram in the market right now?
What's the benefit of having 4 dual rank dimms? I have 1 set of Corsair Vengeacen Pro 2X16GB ver 5.32 (Hynix) and 1 set of the same 2X16GB ver 4.32 (Samsung) both 3200mts but with the 4 I can't run more than 3133.
I have the G Skill 3600 Cl 16-16-16-36 kit, and it is dual rank and will do Cl 14-14-14-30 and 288 tRFC at 1.47v. Great kit, gets me to 53ns latency on my X570i Strix. Highly recommend for Ryzen
Thank you. I have the same motherboard and am about to buy this ram
Is there any reason to buy 3600cl14/15/15 kit instead? Does it overclock better?
Im not overly knowledgeable on ram timings and such but using my motherboards manufactor support sheet I looked through possible 2x16GB kits that had B die, grabbed a corsair pair straight from their website, the LPX. I dont know where I heard this but I got told somewhere, that specifically the 2x16GB 3200mhz CL16 lpx kits from corsairs website only (weird ik) are always B die only specifically those sticks, I can say the ones that are in my PC using thaiphoon burner read as B die that could just be luck though and the ones in my Mrs PC is also B die again that could just be pure luck they were purchased at least 1 year apart but both off of corsairs website rather than amazon or such...
I have a Gskill 4x32 3600 18-22-22-42 kit and they are indeed Hynix ICs
Hey buildzoid, i bought 2 kits of the viper steel 2x8 4400mhz because i was thinking about upgrade my old r5 1600 with some new stuff (intel or amd it will depend on which one will offer the bast value for a gaming cpu). Now i was wondering if for mainly gaming purposes, going 4x8 to get them working in dual rank is it going to be a waste of money (in which case i would return one of the kit) or will it be a good move to get a little bit more of future proof when i'm going to upgrade my gpu with something like rtx 4000 or rx 7000?
Also is it worth to wait for the new ddr5 INTEL or AMD platforms?
For gaming you are better off going to a newer cpu +mobo. 5600x is great , better ram support etc etc
I am looking to buy the AMD rtx 6700, and 4000 15-16-16-36 will it work with AMD 6700?
I got relatively lucky with my 4 x 8gb corsair sticks I didn't buy them at the same time so really lucky. 2 sticks are Samsung B die (newer stuff) and 2 sticks are Hynix (something). The hynix stuff is rated for 3000 and the Samsung as 3200 both CL16. I can't get it to run 3200 cl16 but it runs fine at 3000 CL16 so that's ok. Solo the hynix will do 3600 CL18 or 3200CL16 but I wanted the more ram and duel rank so will sacrifice a bit of raw speed for that.
I Found a 16*8 3600 CL 15-15-15-36 is it good for overclocking??
there is no gskill 4000 c17 in my area, so i went for 3600 c16 16 instead, hopefully also pretty good
I love your videos. I really clicked on your OC testing of ram for taking so long, but, couldn't you remove the sticks and do one stick at a time for testing? I realize that you test when OC'ing wouldn't you still find the faulty stick?
Yes you could IF you were only validating that the ram was physically faulty. Doing your proposed method when wanting to OC both sticks won't accomplish anything sadly.
You are correct that ICs could be different in the same stick SKU even in DDR2 days. I had one stick in a 2x2GB G.Skill kit that was replaced under warranty with a stick made with different ICs.
G.Skill royal / neo / RGB are pretty much all the same sticks with different shells. Even the LED diffuser from royals work on the other ones. 3600 32GB kit is dual rank H5AN8G8NCJR 16-19-19-36
I bought 2x16 gb corsair rgb 3200mhz cl16. I Overclocked it to cl14 3600mhz...is it still decent?.they're micron D die. I could technically stil return it but idk?
Even with an explanation its super hard to choose I want 4x8gb (2x2x8gb only saves about $10 here, so I'll take the 4x8 safety). I keep flipping between $250 for 3600 cl18-22--22-34, $369 for 3600 cl16-16-16-36 or $578 for cl14-14-14-36. I hate hover spending, but I also don't want to shoot myself in the foot and with 11th gen I don't want to have to worry about 2nd great by going over 3600. I'll probably go the CL14 kit incase I get stuck with my first ram overlock. then I can fall back to the XMP.
Do a 32gb per stick please, for example: 32gb x 2 or x 4 sticks etc... Love your videos!
I have not picked the 4000c17-GTZR but c19-16GTRS. Lists as Dual Ranks in GPU-z and is happy to run at 1.212V instead of XMPs 1.35. So 4000c19d-32GTRS kit which, to my surprise is listed for over 600bucks in this video. And well its a Samsung. The S stands for silver. Guess the R for royal and the T for trident, who have thought.
I went nuts trying to find a 2 x 16GB dual rank set so I went for 2 sets 2 x 8GB crucial balastix 3200 CL 16, running them now on 3800 CL16
Did you find any eventual problems or indicators or problems while overclocking the 4 sticks? That's my main concern currently, as I'm missing only the memory sticks to finish my build
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking : I've got a question that's simply out of curiosity.. You mention that a manufacturer such as Corsair will use any memory chip that's available at the time, and also its my understanding that kits of sticks are sold together because they know they work together.
My question is, and keep in mind this doesn't necessarily make sense to do, its just a theoretical situation.. what would happen if you had say 4x8GB Corsair 3600MHz CL18 sticks that came together as a kit (32GB total) and then took out 2 sticks and put in sticks from a 2x8GB Corsair 3600MHz CL18 kit? (so the idea is that they *should* be the same sticks individually and you'd still have the same setup and 32GB in total).
Could there potentially be a problem because of different memory chips or maybe because they weren't paired at the factory or could both if those factors be a problem? I'm just really curious about it.
The 2x8GB that you want to theoretically add later on, will not be guaranteed to work. Under the hood the ram could be totally different modules Vs the original 4, which would be the same & have been validated at the factory to work together. All that said, it could work, but you likely won't be able to OC the ram as much by mixing and matching. Hope that makes sense.
We're back to suggestions 😂
Did you ever get that FX8350 beyond 8.4 GHz?
I vote for a "RAMbling about high speed RAM reviews" video!
RAMbling!
@@EriIaz Fixed it!
I have that same 64gb kit of team what dies are on yours?
Please could you give your opinion on, and maybe an overclocking video for ECC Udimms on Ryzen?
I would also love thoughts on ECC UDIMMS and Ryzen.
G.Skill 2x16GB F4-3600C16D-32GVKC is dual rank Hynix CJR.
Buildzoid, what is your recommendation for F4-3200C14Q-32GTZSW paired with a 5600X (Curve -0.1) ?
Depends on Motherboard as well. As in does it support it? Anyway going off the part number alone, that's a G.Skill DDR4 3200 CL14 32GB(8GBx4 - Q in Part# = Quad) kit. FYI, ALL G.Skill 32GB CL14-14-14-34 kits are Dual Rank Modules in Dual or Quad kit form. This would pair very well with a 5600X. FWIW, I run the Flare X version of that kit(-32GFX) on a B550M mobo with a 3800XT. CPU-Z reports the Modules as Dual Rank.
Hell yeah finally this one
I need some advice to get my RAM to 3600Mhz, RAM is Crucial Ballistix BL2K32G32C16U4B 2x32GB Kit (64 GB total) 3200mhz 16-18-18-36. They are dual rank Micron B-Die, august 2021.
Motherboard is asus crosshair vi hero x370 with 8503 bios. CPU is Ryzen 5800X
I used dram calculator 1.7.3 to get speeds for 3400Mhz, I choose Zen 2, A0/B0, 2 rank, 2 dimm modules, b350/x370, 100 bclk and Micron E/H-die (because the software is not updated for 16GB B-die) and it's stable with Fast preset at 3400Mhz. I get 64ns in Aida64. 49.1 gb/s read, 27.2 gb/s write, 48.2 gb/s copy.
I get post for 3466 and 3533 with Safe and Fast preset, but Windows BSOD during startup
And I get no post with the settings for 3600mhz, is there any setting that prevent the system to not post?
What should I try?
I wanted this kit to do 3600. Well it's fine because it's dual rank and 3400 DR is faster and smoother than SR at 3800 I assume.
Thank you.
I've got a dual rank Ballistix 3600 2x16 Rev E kit that does 4000 with stock XMP timings and voltage.
So is 4133c17-17-17 8Gb sticks guaranteed to be dual rank?
I don't oc memory at the moment but I did need 64gb for adobe lightroom. I bought 2 kits of G.Skill F4-3200C16-16GVK. All the chips are samsung and cpu-z says dual rank on all of them. all 16-18-18-38 and my xmp profile works with all 4 installed. Guess I got kinda lucky
I bought the 4000MHz Ripjaw V kit (offshoot of the Trident showed at 7:00) because I saw it for $200 and have been using old 2800MHz RAM since I switched to Ryzen in January 2020 that is rated for CL15, but running at CL19 because ASUS refuses to support it so it fails POST at its rated, or any custom, timing.. even manually inputting CL20 at 1666MHz. 8GB DR Hynix M-die sticks.
This 4000 kit is single rank and some weird Hynix chip that wasn't really labeled in Typhoon Burner and DRAM calculator wouldn't even load the XMP dump. Listed as "H5ANAG8N[M/A]JR-VKC"
Have no idea how to get my 3950x to 2000FCLK, so I've been running it at 3600/1800 CL18 (will try tuning 3800/1900 later); latency is 70ns and I haven't seen a single increase in performance in any benchmark or game I've tested. Synthetic memory testing shows everything higher.. but real world performance has been no different so far.
So, I randomly stumbled across this video in my feed and I'm hoping it ends up helping, as I refuse to believe jumping so high up in memory frequency does nothing. I really don't want to spend the money upgrading when DDR5 is on the horizon, but if I need to jump to a 64GB DR B-die kit for my 3950 (5950 someday..) to actually gain big, then I'll try to swallow it.
What's with my weird 32GB GSkill 3600mhz CL 16-19-19-39 kit? It works 😅
Ramble about OLOy Blade RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) cl14 3600 with 14-14-14-34 1.40 volts pls
So I just returned G.SKILL DDR4000 16-19-19-39 for DDR3600 14-15-15-36. I keep going back and forth between whether I made the right choice. Per the leaks, RKL FCLK only syncs up to 3733, so I would have had to drop the 4000 kit anyway. Beyond that, the 3600 kit has the best of the 3 B dies where as the 4000 kit had the worst, the 3600 kit has SPPR, SPD revision 1.1, and higher factory J-DEC (which means nothing).
Tell me I didn't make a mistake, but be honest if I did. The 3600 kit is rare and sells out quickly where as the 4000 kit restocks often.
So did you end up happy? I'm considering buying 3600cl14/15/15 kit also for 405eur but i kinda wonder how many more fps i can clock out of it than regular 3600c16/16/16 that costs 330eur. Both are in stock. Running 5950x with Unify.
@@jaybee0507 Actually, yes... because the Gear 1 limit of RKL is usually 3733... 3866 if you're really lucky.
I fell asleep as Buildzoid's voice is ASMR.
Also, 4x 16GB B-die just to torture my 5900x's memory controller.
Yeah, it's quite difficult to overclock 4x16 B-dies. ☹️
@@sp00n Yeah. I got mine to 3600 CL14-15-14-28 @ 1.46V. But if I use only 2 sticks, I easily reach 3866 CL16 @ 1.44V (didn't bother to optimise sub-timings as it was just a quick test)
@@aaron_333 I was able to achieve 3600 MHz/14-14-14-26-7-7-28-320-32767-T1*/1.45 V using 4X16 GiB G.Skill Ripjaw V kit and it passed Firestrike and Time Spy without any ill effects. My VCCSA/VCCIO/uncore voltage was set to 1.25 V for both tests.
*7: tRRD_S/tRRD_L; 28: tFAW; 320: tRFC; tREFI: 32767; force memory retraining enabled; all other timings set to auto.
@@NUCLEARARMAMENT Yea I'm able to get my 4000Mhz C17 sticks to 3600Mhz CL 14-14-14-14-28 at 1.435v at T1 and all that. I could go even faster but I think my 5950x's memory controller is already crying in agony along with my wallet and it runs into stability issues with memory tests. Honestly considering it's well below the 8ns speed with over 99.9999% of the ram tested for 0 errors I'm happy.
Edit: real world speeds in the low 50s iirc in ns. I think 52 but it's beena hot minute lol.
Some people say it is ok to mix memory but I like to keep it all as much the same as possible. I never had a memory error because of that. It probably helped that when I bought my 32 GB of DDR3, I got it as all at once from the same seller as if it was a kit. That was of course back before the market became the shitstorm of scalping that it is now.
It would be interesting to see a look at whether new BIOS/AGESA in x570 b550 boards are now capable of IF 4000 (maybe newer MB production runs are better). 3800 is nice, but what the heck.
I got a b550 gigabyte board a couple of weeks ago, its a revision and the qvl indicates at least some support for 5000mhz. only on 2 x 8gb on watever sticks they were. I didn't even look because 5000mhz support probably isn't great but there was support for several 4000mhz kits and several higher speeds. I didn't have much luck finding a revised x570 board that wasn't greater than $500
I got really lucky, with some G.SKILL Sniper X F4 3200 cl16 2x16, according to typhoon burner it is Samsung B-die. I still have to tickle them a bit to let them run faster.
dont feel depresed if its samsung c die
great video, can some one help me this is the ram i have VENGEANCE® RGB PRO 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz C18 AMD Ryzen Memory Kit - Black but the problem is that is single rank only i wanted a dual rank ram. can anyone help me why is single rank. thank you
A couple of days ago i came across a 2x16gb trident z rgb 3200 MHz cl14 kit for 220 Euro (~280$) and i thought, that must be b-die, lets get into RAM OC
Is the gskill 4000c16d good too?
The G.Skill stuff (4k, 18-22) is Hynix D-Die single rank
Went memory shopping recently. All 3200 cl14 2x16gb went out of stock. Tired of waiting and wanted it to just work. Bought 2x16gb 3600 cl14 for 300. 💪🏽
The price premium for cl14 is crazy... Paid the same for 64gb 3600 cl18.
I got the Trident Z Royal 3600 CL14-15-15-35 kit and it runs nice. I wish he would've commented on that one
I also have the same one, Royal Gold. It was the last one and is very rare. Still have to test it though, currently I'd like to finish with OC capabilities of the 4 single rank kits I also have.
I think they go in this order:
3600 14-15-15 1.45V = 3800 14-16-16 1.5V = 4266 17-18-18 1.5V > 4000 16-19-19 1.4V > 4000 17-18-18 1.4V > 4000 19-19-19 1.35V
middle mouse click is still an unexplored territory for buildzoid
My life changed after finding out about it
Oldschool mice did not have a 3rd button / wheel so there is possibility bz is using an old mouse. He might scroll with pg up/ down buttons on keyboard or even worse using arrows *eugh* /jk
nah I just think scroll click is awful and I unbind it in every game I play
@El Cactuar Nah, i'm only 40yrs and i agree with him. We didn't even have scroll wheels to click at the time of windows 3.11 so why would we need to click it now? Actually i much more prefered the actual mouse middle button of the 90s for gaming instead of the useless scroll wheel thats only good for browsing web, which you could do just as well with arrow keys. Bring back mice with three on top buttons! Yeah! No? Okay, then.
For the GSKILL TridentZ kits, i know that if the code name ends with C (e.g. F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC) then the chips are SK Hynix. If there is no C I think it means Samsung but I'm not sure if it's always the case.
Taking the tridentz neo 32G 2600 C15, there's two variants: the F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC, and the F4-3600C16D-32GTZN. The second one should be Samsung B-die.
What about F4-3600C16D-16GTZR
?
Here is hoping that you are correct as I have a set of F4-3600C16D-32GTZN (CL-16-16-16-36) waiting for a CPU to arrive - in April...
@@plu2 I used to have the royal version of that kit before upgrading. Yes they are b dies and I have overclocked that set to 3800Mhz CL16 or so at 1.45v. not insanely bumpy in performance but no slouch too. I could do 3800Mhz with CL14 but looser timings were required even at 1.5v.
CMK64GX4M2Z4000C18 is Micron Rev B. Bought a pair before they disapeared of the face of the earth.
3733 RAM/1866 IF 16-18-18-36-1T tRFC 582 (5600x)
Tuned system latency 60-62ns.
Have you had a go at trying to push the infinity fabric or using PBO?
how bad is this Hynix H5ANAG8N[M/A]JR-VKC RAM, Its in the 2x32gb G-Skill F4-3600C18D-64GTZR. Price was right at $269.00 now its $329.00 US Currently running at 3733 1.35v on a Asus Prime x570 Pro. haven't messed with the timings
Is 2x16gb 3200 cl14 always Samsung B?