it kinda breaks my heart to know that one of my favourite hobbies is riddled so greatly with people who think "im better" means downloading instant solutions to win and earn rewards that are kept aside for the top of the leaderboard. some amount of those players genuinely think they deserve it and that everyone they die to is a cheater also so they NEED to cheat to compete. but in reality they're just living life with a Copium Respirator welded to their face and might never actually learn what its like to be good at *anything* if they seek easy instant solutions to everything in their life.
All that being said, I mean- I can't enjoy a ranked series in any video game anymore because of both Hidden MMR systems, and cheaters. Hidden MMR is making my bronze-silver lobbies fill up with Diamond averages but a genuine new bronze-silver player will get actual bronze-silver opponents. At least the Finals shows our RS/MMR so we know what sort of match we're being put into.
@@WolfBornePlays Right... cheaters are the issue, not PC players. If you see them as one in the same, turn off crossplay and wait the queue times. You just sound pissy
@@KeyzGP They are not one and the same. Please open your mind to the grey area bro it's not that dry and cut, there's far better qualified folk to break this topic down for you in detail I encourage you to go do your homework on cheating in modern gaming and how deep the rabbit hole goes, I'm not being pissy... it's wanting to preserve the integrity of my favourite life long passion. Maybe if more folk were pro active and stood against it we might he in a better place.
Fun fact: Embark doesn’t seem to perma ban cheaters. A while back on PlayStation lobby only my friends and I ran into someone that was very very clearly using a recoil script in quick play with the M60. I went on the finals leaderboard and saw that he was ranked #12 in the world at the time. His psn background had his stats that showed him having a 7.0+ kd with an 80% win rate with 1000+ matches played. Out of curiosity i looked him up on UA-cam and his channel (which still exists) is just compilations of him uploading himself using recoil scripts on multiple weapons and killing people with smg’s from 50+ meters with absolutely 0 recoil, all the comments on these videos were calling him a cheater. I sent a very descriptive and detailed report to Embark providing links and video files and was assured that they would take care of it. He was banned for about 2 weeks or so after the report was sent, someone else commented on his video saying he was banned, and then after about 2-3 weeks he was back on the leaderboards and back in the top 100 in ranked. So from my understanding is that embark doesn’t even perma ban cheaters and gives them a slap on the wrist
@@Sandblazter That's disgraceful behaviour, thank you for shedding light on this. It's likely he just created a new account to begin the whole process again until someone else eventually bans him, rinse repeat. What else can we do at this point? I've been arguing with some folk who actually attack me for this video, there's a lot more cheaters out there than we think bro 😔
@@thebabycakes Correct sir, there's a cheating culture that has gained ground and become a business. That business literally threatens the integrity of all our online games, there's no easy solution 😔
I just got one Cheater banned 🎉🎉🎉 (i wrote to embark with a clip of him playing(it was not a in game report) and they banned him next day) I love embark! Great devs! Great game!
@@nauioertezeme4795 I agree bro I love Embark and their treatment of the community, they've made a fantastic game and we need to help preserve its integrity by exposing cheaters when possible. I salute you sir! 🫡
True but it seems like this generation dont care. They think they're smart using tools to get them in a winnings position in life. They use AI in school, in games to cheat...
@@XLORDPROPL No no it's not. This mentality is so twisted! Our games are being plagued by people who think like that.. you have clearly used cheats judging by this and other comments on this video. Be better!
I 100% agree with you! Cheaters are the reason why online games are dying for me. How much of a loser you need to be, to think: "Yeah, I will give myself endless ammo/health, so I destroy the whole lobby ez" It's the most annoying thing in online games. Anyways, great video and well put together👍🙏
@@bacon5736 I've literally experienced this! When you're actually stomping and in the flow 1 round to the good in the final of a tournament you've really performed in to earn your place and all of a sudden they seem to be unkillable with God tier aim and it's clearly noticeable! Shocking behaviour!
@@bacon5736 I've literally experienced this! When you're actually stomping and in the flow 1 round to the good in the final of a tournament you've really performed in to earn your place and all of a sudden they seem to be unkillable with God tier aim and it's clearly noticeable! Shocking behaviour!
I play on PC and exclusively unranked. It's extremely rare to see someone cheating that blatantly. However, most people are a lot more subtle about it and it takes a keen eye to spot them. My record so far is getting 6 people banned in a week. It's a never ending battle and sometimes it feels like I'm spending more time trying to catch cheaters than actually playing the game. However, you're naive if you think that console is even remotely clean. There are hundreds of thousands of scumbags using Cronus/XIM on console. It's the reason why I don't enable crossplay. You just can't trust anyone.
@@-The-Golden-God- I admire you for chasing and banning those deserving bro it's a fruitless task that only results in them creating new accounts. I'm by no means naive in this space my dude, ofcourse console has its cheaters.. they play on ALL platforms but having crossplay with pc opens the door to the worst of it. 85% of it would disappear overnight in competitive games if it was console to console only. Just an idea to help restore a little balance back to our games.
I play on PC and I agree with you. There are a lot of cheaters over here and I report every one I can verify in some way. Plus the cross play being with PC is part of the reason I don't play on console. There is an advantage with PC and I would give console another shot if they got rid of that.
@@designconker4796 You're candid honesty is very much appreciated brother! There's a lot of people afraid to call it out it's relieving to know folk like yourself are out there doing their bit to report it when you see it even when it's your own platform. ✌🏻
@@designconker4796 You're candid honesty is very much appreciated brother! There's a lot of people afraid to call it out it's relieving to know folk like yourself are out there doing their bit to report it when you see it even when it's your own platform. ✌🏻
@@lewisjones3672 Yes bro I remember you, we literally spectated this fraud hacking I was in disbelief he just didn't care. No shame with these cheaters, thanks for stopping by to say hey bro! 👊🏻
I wouldn't say PC players have a tendency to cheat, just that if you want to cheat, why bother cheating on any other platform than PC? Also, on the topic of "valorant delivers a true balanced experience" ... just turn off crossplay? It's literally an option in the game settings.
@@CorneliusCornbread An easy solution that doesn't address the issue my dude. We should be able to enjoy playing with our xbox friends without the trauma of facing cheaters in competitive spaces. Disabling crossplay all together isn't the answer, console players wanted cross play with each other.. Not many asked for crossplay with pc for obvious reasons. Given the current climate in multiplayer games I think it's fair to open a dialogue to look at the issue in greater detail, I'm seeing this "just turn crossplay off" being said by a select few who clearly haven't thought about it at any great length. We want to play with xbox NOT PC. That is the issue that needs to be looked at to retain some balance and integrity in our multiplayer games. At the end of the day it's just me and millions of console gamers who feel this topic matters. Almost everyone who is arguing to the contrary claim they play on pc... funny that 🤔
yes he is cheating. they don;t want to admit it but the true reason this game almost died is because of the cheating industry. this is also the reason why i quit the game. i'm in SEA server and it's like CS:GO here. there's always a cheater on the other team and there's an average of 3 cheaters per game. that's also a sign that the game is so good.
Ive always been a cross play play hater since day 1, console to console is great but once the PC mfs start getting mixed in that’s when we get all the cheaters n shit. I HATE IT 😭
@@chickenmcfly2133 cross play with consoles is fine but not with pc, we would like to play with our xbox friends without having the experience be filled with cheaters and players playing at double our frames. It's a no brainer if you value a fair playing environment, baffles me why more game companies don't go down this path? 🤷🏻
When I started playing back at February and saw how I get absolutely fucked by some players I usually told myself "It's alright, I'm still new and my skills are trash right now". After more than half a year I've gained some actual skill and understanding of the game and I'm flabbergasted of some players how the seem to never miss and always know where I am I startwd thinking that maybe I wasn't just bad at the game but there was something else... I try to report any cheater I come across but sometimes it's a bit tedious. I think they should to add killcam like in old school shooters( CoD MW1-3) so it's a bit more easy to spot them. For now I'm just sticking with crossplay on.
I hope Embark write down note from Riot of how they punish cheaters, and you know Riot DON'T play that crap. A detection system is all what The Finals need, even though the game has no boundaries for its free 4 all mechanics, they gotta have hunt down these loser ruining games.
Yea, as a pc player usually see a cheater every few games, although there is a lot less with the anti cheat. I had to swich to crossplay to get less cheaters.
bottom line, PC isn't going anywhere. They desperately need to go back to charging $60 for a game. Cheaters get banned and just login on a new account, roll the dice again. Maybe 10 short years ago you could buy any FPS game and it came with all the guns, skins and maps unlocked, future updates included free skins, new maps and new new modes, that you just got when you downloaded the update. Anyways The Finals is less aim assist heavy than COD or even Apex. Those games are both literally packed with cheaters at every tier.
@@kwent86 I agree other games like COD are infested with cheaters that's why I literally quit playing and supporting them, The Finals is far superior in that sense however like you say in most cases it's all too easy to create a new account repeatedly to abuse the system. That's why at this point I would just prevent them from being able to play with us, if they can't or won't play fair then they don't play with us at all. Console crossplay ONLY is the best course of action to mitigate 90% of the cheaters out of our games! Let's go back to balance and have some integrity back in competitive gaming because the scene currently is embarrassing! Every competitive game I played that went cross play with pc is now ruined by pc cheaters, they're not going to stop so the only course now is seperate the player bases like naughty children in school.
yeah, they should charge like 10€ for it, and then pair players that invested money in the ingame store, since cheaters wont usually invest money in a game they could get banned, agin usually, sadly that would probably kill the game even more since cheaters will get paired against new players, which wont want to invest money in a game they cant enjoy.
They are cancer of the game, could killed the game itself if the dev doesn't do anything about it... I hope Embark taking serious act toward cheater....
@@aleknjejenja5903 Well yeah no shit my dude but the subject matter needs attention because modern gaming culture is being poisoned by this behaviour. Cheaters need to be exposed and attention drawn so we can get better awareness and anti cheat from devs.
sadly there is many cheaters in the finals on console as well. played against them and when i had some in my team i was sure of it when i was spectating them and saw the weird unnatural movement
@WolfBornePlays it is and it ruines my time in the game and then when you say something about it (or the poor sbmm or weapon balance) you get attacked by anonymous trolls saying things like skill issue and get gud and then when you tell then they are a piece of sht coward acting like a dck bc they are safely behind their pc screens and won't even dare to talk to someone's face like that bc they are scared their face will get f.ed up your message glgeys removed you get a penalty but their atack towards you can stay and they don't get a penalty
@@bad_medicine_man You're honesty is refreshing brother, much appreciated! It's a difficult situation to juggle for developers in reality but modern gaming in the competitive space is embarrassing these days there's so many blatant people cheating, they need to do more to protect us!
Dude recently I was 39.930 RS, I lost against 2 cheaters in one team first round, they're like hunting me everygodamn time... That was hurt cause I spent the entire day just to achieve 1500rs and just lost it, almost got a diamond rank today😢
@@WolfBornePlays the reason why I can't be a top player in asian server it's just so many Chinese cheaters here... I've tried to play in European/North America it's like heaven... But everything is delay because of the ping problem.
Thankfully I dont see any in my region (NA east) I’m sure there have been in my lobbies, I just haven’t noticed them or losing a disproportionate amount of times. I’d say I’m quite mid at the game, I have 590hrs, but it is pretty much my first fps
@@NirmanJuhanis I do blame the cheaters ofcourse. I never blamed pc bro, you chose to hear that and came to that conclusion. Watch the video again and you will clearly hear me say "Most pc folk are awesome" but some of you abuse the system to cheat. This is a fact. It's not the system it's the people using it, and sadly there's more than enough evidence that points to a giant rise in cheating since pc to console cross play. Our console games are riddled with this bullsh*t now and something needs to be done which is why I advocate for console crossplay ONLY. Either that or far superior anti cheat that literally bricks Cheaters pc's if found using hacks.
crossplay is optional.. and what about cronus? ive been lasered by ps5 players too.. so dont blame pc players, i knowits easier to cheat on pc, but ps5 also got ways to cheat. i played cod for many years and cronus scripts are everywhere on pc and ps5.. no recoil and extra aim assist.. i play on PC and many of my friends play on ps5 so i have crossplay on, a lot of times i wud joke about sweaty steam lobbys, but my ps5 friends said that when they turn off the crossplay they face even sweatier cronus cheaters... problem is bigger then just pc users. im emerald1 atm i met only 1 obvious cheater, so situation is not that bad..
@@Lv1Crook By all means the situation isn't critical in the finals. Yet. But COD Is a joke these days in terms of integrity, I'm very well aware cheaters exist on ALL platforms not just pc this is not a witch hunt merely making an observation that is undisputable at this point.. crossplay with pc opens the door to far more cheating.. we could eleviate half the issue by adopting console crossplay ONLY. Sure there's still cheaters out there but 85% of them couldn't match with us anymore, I'll take that over nothing!
@@WolfBornePlays bro, just turn off the crossplay... i wud understand your point if there was no option to turn it off, but now u made a video about it saying that u are forced to play against pc players...
@@Lv1Crook It's the principle dude, I would like to play with my pc friends some times but again that brings all the cheaters with it.. I could switch cross play off and have literal minutes waiting to get into games.. It's all irrelevant, at the end of the day my video was exposing a cheater blatantly using wall hacks and aimbot yet its me who gets attacked for suggesting crossplay with pc opens the door to it maybe we should reevaluate this? Are we being fucking serious?
@@Lv1Crook Then we need stronger anti cheat especially in this case in the finals! There's no easy solution its just a debate that needs to happen at this point when there's folk out there blatantly cheating in the open!
Cheers Scotty, my next video is my return to Chivalry after 5 months break! I know a lot of folk have been requesting Chivalry so I will deliver on Tuesday! 👀
@@loslocos1086 haha, social security number, finger prints and eye scans! But sadly we then lose our civil rights because a few losers can't play fair with others. Slippery slope.
@@WolfBornePlaysit’s unfortunate but the higher rank you move to in the skill based matchmaking, the more you’ll find yourself the only team not using SOMETHING like you’ve stated. Frustrating indeed.
@@WolfBornePlays dealing/stopping cheaters, like they are a whole community that constantly developing new and more sophisticated cheats to avoid detection
@@ivaneban2121 I agree bro which is why a quicker temporary fix would be to eliminate pc to console crossplay and have it console dedicated only. That alone would mitigate 90% of the cheaters we encounter and bring back a little balance. But yeah it's a never ending battle that most devs are losing on!
@@WolfBornePlays You can turn the cross-play off the thing is made to lower the cue time and play with your friends that don't have console. They shouldn't remove cross-play and screwing friends over just because you don't want to turn it off yourself. I would still like to play with my one friend who prefers ps5.
@@aleknjejenja5903 I understand bro it's a difficult topic to balance but playing any kind of competitive game these days is infested with this behaviour. I wish I had a better solution.
@@matteo7301 Yup, there's no easy solution without invasive colonel level anti cheat but if that's what it takes then so be it. Otherwise they can help console players by removing crossplay with pc for a period of time to implement some changes to combat this issue.
@@WolfBornePlays the invasive anti cheat shouldn't be a problem as long as u have nothing to hide tho right? Cuz the way u make it sound here is like it's bad to non cheaters aswell
@matteo7301 There can be privacy issues if the studio got hacked, so would your data be other than that ofcourse I'm all for it.. whatever it takes bro! 👊🏻
@@USConnexion What world do I live in? A world that existed before cheaters became mainstream. Before people gave up hope in fighting them, ofcourse they are on console too what part of you came to the conclusion that I don't know that? BUT 85% of them disappear with console crossplay ONLY.. I'd take that over the current climate! Anyone arguing against that concept has likely used cheats/advantages themselves. It's really simple.
@@USConnexion If your feelings are hurt because i called out pc players that's your problem I'm afraid not mine dude. My video was encountering a cheat who was on pc just like every other video on my channel where I've encountered cheaters. In this instance I was talking about how pc to console crossplay clearly brings more cheaters into our lobbies. This is FACT. Again it's down to you personally feeling hurt that I've offended pc players and I didn't, only the cheaters. In the video I clearly say "most of you on pc are awesome" but you've chosen to be offended for some reason. I'm sorry but let's focus on the problem at hand and not name calling who said what, if you tell me people on console cheat I agree with you I don't get offended. What is wrong with the world today...
@@XLORDPROPL You're mentality here is beyond twisted I'm not sure even what to say.. did you not see the gut clearly using aimbot and wall hacks?! Your statement clearly gives me the impression you obviously do or have used cheats. Not good.
@@WolfBornePlays I saw, you have an evidence that one guy is using an aimbot and he should be banned. My mentality is so straight and logical that you think it's twisted. I get called a cheater just because of one guy i don't even know, understandable.
@@XLORDPROPL You were defending the use of aimbot bro.. claiming it's not worth playing without one because apparently people think you're cheating regardless... this is what you said so yeah... wtf?? Not the best way to look at it, you're other comments on the video were also defending cheaters and describing gyro. One comment you literally deleted and changed yourself because you practically admitted to using cheats. Im not stupid dude, please this ain't the place to play these games so don't act confused.
@@WolfBornePlays If you think that telling the truth means defending cheaters, you’re wrong. I just said that it’s not worth playing without an aimbot against someone who already thinks you’re cheating. I don’t know about the other comments, but if I deleted them, it means I realized I was wrong. I change my comments often to make sure I’m not misleading anyone because it's important to me. Not understanding something doesn’t mean you’re stupid. Try to look at it with an open mind. I can explain everything to you-just tell me what you don’t understand. :)
The barrier to entry for cheating is far lower with PC players. It's just life. Turn of crossplay or stop bitching about it. They give you this option for a reason. Waste of a video, wait the queue time.
@@KeyzGP Spoken like you've used cheats before yourself my friend? Just because one portion of gamers are weak minded and lazy enough to cheat shouldn't mean we just accept it when it's literally ruining gaming culture. Crossplay cannot be turned off in all games so that's not s solid solution not to mention some folk actually want and deserve to play with their friends on other platforms and denying them that because of a few total losers is unacceptable. Lastly if you truly feel this way about the subject why did you watch the video? Your mentality on this topic is a little uneducated bro.
@@WolfBornePlays most of the ps5 games doest have a proper crossplay... its only apex, cod, bf, fortnite and the finals that has a crossplay.. most of the ps5 games has a crossplay only for xbox and ps5.. and rest of the games they have a option ON and OFF.. you making 0 sense with crossplay cannot be turned off?!
@@Lv1Crook There's some games like Chivalry 2 that aren't able to be played without crossplay so you're forced to play against pc players in a game where K&M has clear advantage, that's just one example. I can see you're not coming around to a larger perspective beyond your own and I don't have time to explain the entire pc to console rabbit hole. There's enough evidence out there bro, you'd be surprised how many people would switch to console only cross play given the chance.
@@WolfBornePlaysso you should tell this to the devs.. i am pro crossplay i think ps5, xbox, steam, steam decks, should be able to play together.. i like playing with my friends and only coz of crossplay i can play with them.. but if u wanna isolate yourself do what you want, and games that are forcing you to play with pc players without a option to turn it off is ass, and you shouldnt waste your time, or make a video about that game and the devs, coz now u making video about the finasl crossplay, when there is no problem.. so do us a favour and go into settings and turn the crossplay off! and you dont have to explain the rabbit hole to me, we all know that pc players gonna hate aim assist and ps5 players gonna blame m&k and cheaters, so for that reason we have the option for crossplay.
it kinda breaks my heart to know that one of my favourite hobbies is riddled so greatly with people who think "im better" means downloading instant solutions to win and earn rewards that are kept aside for the top of the leaderboard.
some amount of those players genuinely think they deserve it and that everyone they die to is a cheater also so they NEED to cheat to compete.
but in reality they're just living life with a Copium Respirator welded to their face and might never actually learn what its like to be good at *anything* if they seek easy instant solutions to everything in their life.
@@onikrux Bro your words are perfect here.. couldn't have said it better myself. This is exactly it!
All that being said, I mean- I can't enjoy a ranked series in any video game anymore because of both Hidden MMR systems, and cheaters.
Hidden MMR is making my bronze-silver lobbies fill up with Diamond averages but a genuine new bronze-silver player will get actual bronze-silver opponents.
At least the Finals shows our RS/MMR so we know what sort of match we're being put into.
@@WolfBornePlays Right... cheaters are the issue, not PC players. If you see them as one in the same, turn off crossplay and wait the queue times. You just sound pissy
@@KeyzGP They are not one and the same. Please open your mind to the grey area bro it's not that dry and cut, there's far better qualified folk to break this topic down for you in detail I encourage you to go do your homework on cheating in modern gaming and how deep the rabbit hole goes, I'm not being pissy... it's wanting to preserve the integrity of my favourite life long passion. Maybe if more folk were pro active and stood against it we might he in a better place.
They don't cheat to compete or to feel that they're better. They cheat to piss you off and make you feel like shit, and it works
Fun fact: Embark doesn’t seem to perma ban cheaters. A while back on PlayStation lobby only my friends and I ran into someone that was very very clearly using a recoil script in quick play with the M60. I went on the finals leaderboard and saw that he was ranked #12 in the world at the time. His psn background had his stats that showed him having a 7.0+ kd with an 80% win rate with 1000+ matches played. Out of curiosity i looked him up on UA-cam and his channel (which still exists) is just compilations of him uploading himself using recoil scripts on multiple weapons and killing people with smg’s from 50+ meters with absolutely 0 recoil, all the comments on these videos were calling him a cheater.
I sent a very descriptive and detailed report to Embark providing links and video files and was assured that they would take care of it. He was banned for about 2 weeks or so after the report was sent, someone else commented on his video saying he was banned, and then after about 2-3 weeks he was back on the leaderboards and back in the top 100 in ranked.
So from my understanding is that embark doesn’t even perma ban cheaters and gives them a slap on the wrist
@@Sandblazter That's disgraceful behaviour, thank you for shedding light on this. It's likely he just created a new account to begin the whole process again until someone else eventually bans him, rinse repeat. What else can we do at this point? I've been arguing with some folk who actually attack me for this video, there's a lot more cheaters out there than we think bro 😔
That is so messed up if true
@@deniskreynin i can name drop the cheater if you want to look into it yourself
Cheater’s name is “otownrez”
@@Sandblazter Hope he's perma banned!
This is a gaming problem in general at this point
@@thebabycakes Correct sir, there's a cheating culture that has gained ground and become a business. That business literally threatens the integrity of all our online games, there's no easy solution 😔
I just got one Cheater banned 🎉🎉🎉 (i wrote to embark with a clip of him playing(it was not a in game report) and they banned him next day) I love embark! Great devs! Great game!
@@nauioertezeme4795 I agree bro I love Embark and their treatment of the community, they've made a fantastic game and we need to help preserve its integrity by exposing cheaters when possible. I salute you sir! 🫡
cheaters cheat to not lose. but at the end of the day, they're even bigger losers
@@dumbfox9550 Facts!
That is why I laugh so hard hearing guys with paranoia calling goood players cheaters when they got kill
True but it seems like this generation dont care. They think they're smart using tools to get them in a winnings position in life. They use AI in school, in games to cheat...
It’s better to have fun using an aimbot than to play against a cheater who ruins all the fun.
@@XLORDPROPL No no it's not. This mentality is so twisted! Our games are being plagued by people who think like that.. you have clearly used cheats judging by this and other comments on this video. Be better!
I 100% agree with you!
Cheaters are the reason why online games are dying for me. How much of a loser you need to be, to think: "Yeah, I will give myself endless ammo/health, so I destroy the whole lobby ez" It's the most annoying thing in online games. Anyways, great video and well put together👍🙏
@@AVGVSTVSDETECTING Cheers bro, yeah it's an epidemic in modern competitive games sadly. Let's hope for a better future with stronger anti cheat!
@@WolfBornePlays Something needs to happen,or it will just get worse✊️🤞
I love when you get to the final round and they start to lose so they dial aim assist up to 11 and don’t even try to hide it
@@bacon5736 I've literally experienced this! When you're actually stomping and in the flow 1 round to the good in the final of a tournament you've really performed in to earn your place and all of a sudden they seem to be unkillable with God tier aim and it's clearly noticeable! Shocking behaviour!
@@bacon5736 I've literally experienced this! When you're actually stomping and in the flow 1 round to the good in the final of a tournament you've really performed in to earn your place and all of a sudden they seem to be unkillable with God tier aim and it's clearly noticeable! Shocking behaviour!
Yea I n3ver knew that people use aim assit on MK until I played this game
Some of them use a lot more than just aim assist brother!
@@WolfBornePlays “aim assist”
I play on PC and exclusively unranked. It's extremely rare to see someone cheating that blatantly. However, most people are a lot more subtle about it and it takes a keen eye to spot them. My record so far is getting 6 people banned in a week. It's a never ending battle and sometimes it feels like I'm spending more time trying to catch cheaters than actually playing the game.
However, you're naive if you think that console is even remotely clean. There are hundreds of thousands of scumbags using Cronus/XIM on console. It's the reason why I don't enable crossplay. You just can't trust anyone.
@@-The-Golden-God- I admire you for chasing and banning those deserving bro it's a fruitless task that only results in them creating new accounts. I'm by no means naive in this space my dude, ofcourse console has its cheaters.. they play on ALL platforms but having crossplay with pc opens the door to the worst of it. 85% of it would disappear overnight in competitive games if it was console to console only. Just an idea to help restore a little balance back to our games.
I play on PC and I agree with you. There are a lot of cheaters over here and I report every one I can verify in some way. Plus the cross play being with PC is part of the reason I don't play on console. There is an advantage with PC and I would give console another shot if they got rid of that.
@@designconker4796 You're candid honesty is very much appreciated brother! There's a lot of people afraid to call it out it's relieving to know folk like yourself are out there doing their bit to report it when you see it even when it's your own platform. ✌🏻
@@designconker4796 You're candid honesty is very much appreciated brother! There's a lot of people afraid to call it out it's relieving to know folk like yourself are out there doing their bit to report it when you see it even when it's your own platform. ✌🏻
Ps and Xbox only crossplay is a great start.
@@fragen015 It would be a step forward for sure!
Crazy that’s me in the game with you LtJonesy
@@lewisjones3672 Yes bro I remember you, we literally spectated this fraud hacking I was in disbelief he just didn't care. No shame with these cheaters, thanks for stopping by to say hey bro! 👊🏻
I wouldn't say PC players have a tendency to cheat, just that if you want to cheat, why bother cheating on any other platform than PC?
Also, on the topic of "valorant delivers a true balanced experience" ... just turn off crossplay? It's literally an option in the game settings.
@@CorneliusCornbread An easy solution that doesn't address the issue my dude. We should be able to enjoy playing with our xbox friends without the trauma of facing cheaters in competitive spaces. Disabling crossplay all together isn't the answer, console players wanted cross play with each other.. Not many asked for crossplay with pc for obvious reasons. Given the current climate in multiplayer games I think it's fair to open a dialogue to look at the issue in greater detail, I'm seeing this "just turn crossplay off" being said by a select few who clearly haven't thought about it at any great length. We want to play with xbox NOT PC. That is the issue that needs to be looked at to retain some balance and integrity in our multiplayer games. At the end of the day it's just me and millions of console gamers who feel this topic matters. Almost everyone who is arguing to the contrary claim they play on pc... funny that 🤔
yes he is cheating. they don;t want to admit it but the true reason this game almost died is because of the cheating industry. this is also the reason why i quit the game. i'm in SEA server and it's like CS:GO here. there's always a cheater on the other team and there's an average of 3 cheaters per game. that's also a sign that the game is so good.
@@super_steam The cheat industry is poisoning the entire well of gaming, we live in sad times bro.
Ive always been a cross play play hater since day 1, console to console is great but once the PC mfs start getting mixed in that’s when we get all the cheaters n shit. I HATE IT 😭
@@justinrios3459 This seems to be the sentiment for a lot of console players these days.
Always thought shooter games should never be crossplay…. Worst thing to happen in gaming.
@@chickenmcfly2133 cross play with consoles is fine but not with pc, we would like to play with our xbox friends without having the experience be filled with cheaters and players playing at double our frames. It's a no brainer if you value a fair playing environment, baffles me why more game companies don't go down this path? 🤷🏻
@@WolfBornePlays yea that’s what I meant, just no cross platform with pc
I've played xdefiant and it had input based matchmaking.....AMAZING!!!
@intergalacticlollypop Shame Ubisoft are a joke these days and have cancelled it.
@WolfBornePlays it is. I actually really liked the game tho. Shame it's gone now (especially since im a broke ass free game player 🤣)
When I started playing back at February and saw how I get absolutely fucked by some players I usually told myself "It's alright, I'm still new and my skills are trash right now". After more than half a year I've gained some actual skill and understanding of the game and I'm flabbergasted of some players how the seem to never miss and always know where I am I startwd thinking that maybe I wasn't just bad at the game but there was something else... I try to report any cheater I come across but sometimes it's a bit tedious. I think they should to add killcam like in old school shooters( CoD MW1-3) so it's a bit more easy to spot them. For now I'm just sticking with crossplay on.
@@NicholasRoyce103 I would love a kill cam in the finals bro that would be extremely insightful on those sketchy deaths! 💯
I hope Embark write down note from Riot of how they punish cheaters, and you know Riot DON'T play that crap. A detection system is all what The Finals need, even though the game has no boundaries for its free 4 all mechanics, they gotta have hunt down these loser ruining games.
@@Zipperskull_ Wise words well spoken my friend! 👊🏻
@@WolfBornePlays Thank u :)
Yea you got my subscribe button hit lol. But I wouldn’t be mad if they gave us as an option to allow fool crossplay of console only
@@-nMd- Thank you for the support brother! 🙏🏼
Yea, as a pc player usually see a cheater every few games, although there is a lot less with the anti cheat. I had to swich to crossplay to get less cheaters.
@@brokenzenith3576 It's an epidemic in modern gaming bro! 😔
bottom line, PC isn't going anywhere. They desperately need to go back to charging $60 for a game. Cheaters get banned and just login on a new account, roll the dice again. Maybe 10 short years ago you could buy any FPS game and it came with all the guns, skins and maps unlocked, future updates included free skins, new maps and new new modes, that you just got when you downloaded the update. Anyways The Finals is less aim assist heavy than COD or even Apex. Those games are both literally packed with cheaters at every tier.
@@kwent86 I agree other games like COD are infested with cheaters that's why I literally quit playing and supporting them, The Finals is far superior in that sense however like you say in most cases it's all too easy to create a new account repeatedly to abuse the system. That's why at this point I would just prevent them from being able to play with us, if they can't or won't play fair then they don't play with us at all. Console crossplay ONLY is the best course of action to mitigate 90% of the cheaters out of our games! Let's go back to balance and have some integrity back in competitive gaming because the scene currently is embarrassing! Every competitive game I played that went cross play with pc is now ruined by pc cheaters, they're not going to stop so the only course now is seperate the player bases like naughty children in school.
yeah, they should charge like 10€ for it, and then pair players that invested money in the ingame store, since cheaters wont usually invest money in a game they could get banned, agin usually, sadly that would probably kill the game even more since cheaters will get paired against new players, which wont want to invest money in a game they cant enjoy.
@@Altair6306 Yup, it's the never ending cycle 🫤
You get cheaters paying $200 for Tarkov every day. Putting a price tag on a game does nearly nothing to get rid of cheaters.
Fucking yikes. "Give corpos more money to ignore us more for nothing"
They are cancer of the game, could killed the game itself if the dev doesn't do anything about it...
I hope Embark taking serious act toward cheater....
@@RazyNovian 100% Agreed bro! No mercy for cheaters! 👊🏻
I say this all the time plat and above is consistently full of cheaters im now seeing these losers in normal quick cash it’s lame ash
@@SaturnZsGaming_ True story my friend!
I mean of course cheaters are going to be pc players its far easier to download cheats on pc than a console.
@@aleknjejenja5903 Well yeah no shit my dude but the subject matter needs attention because modern gaming culture is being poisoned by this behaviour. Cheaters need to be exposed and attention drawn so we can get better awareness and anti cheat from devs.
It's a joke that this allowed to go unpunished almost by design as well sadly. Great video and cream always rises to the top 💯✌️
@@LBshAnk370 Thanks bro! 👊🏻
sadly there is many cheaters in the finals on console as well. played against them and when i had some in my team i was sure of it when i was spectating them and saw the weird unnatural movement
@@intergalacticlollypop Low IQ cowards posing as gamers bro.. sad times!
@WolfBornePlays it is and it ruines my time in the game and then when you say something about it (or the poor sbmm or weapon balance) you get attacked by anonymous trolls saying things like skill issue and get gud and then when you tell then they are a piece of sht coward acting like a dck bc they are safely behind their pc screens and won't even dare to talk to someone's face like that bc they are scared their face will get f.ed up your message glgeys removed you get a penalty but their atack towards you can stay and they don't get a penalty
am pc player. hate console. u r correct, all the scum are here on my side :(
@@bad_medicine_man You're honesty is refreshing brother, much appreciated! It's a difficult situation to juggle for developers in reality but modern gaming in the competitive space is embarrassing these days there's so many blatant people cheating, they need to do more to protect us!
Dude recently I was 39.930 RS, I lost against 2 cheaters in one team first round, they're like hunting me everygodamn time... That was hurt cause I spent the entire day just to achieve 1500rs and just lost it, almost got a diamond rank today😢
I'm in asian server right now, I'm not a Chinese because the Asian server is merge with Chinese server which is where the cheaters came from mostly
@@septiarizqyrenaldi2038 I feel your pain brother! 😔
@@WolfBornePlays the reason why I can't be a top player in asian server it's just so many Chinese cheaters here... I've tried to play in European/North America it's like heaven... But everything is delay because of the ping problem.
@@WolfBornePlays we need to do something, whatever server you in, this game need to be fixed
Thankfully I dont see any in my region (NA east) I’m sure there have been in my lobbies, I just haven’t noticed them or losing a disproportionate amount of times. I’d say I’m quite mid at the game, I have 590hrs, but it is pretty much my first fps
nuuu but some of my new friends are from console. and i play pc. blame the cheaters not pc. :(
@@NirmanJuhanis I do blame the cheaters ofcourse. I never blamed pc bro, you chose to hear that and came to that conclusion. Watch the video again and you will clearly hear me say "Most pc folk are awesome" but some of you abuse the system to cheat. This is a fact. It's not the system it's the people using it, and sadly there's more than enough evidence that points to a giant rise in cheating since pc to console cross play. Our console games are riddled with this bullsh*t now and something needs to be done which is why I advocate for console crossplay ONLY. Either that or far superior anti cheat that literally bricks Cheaters pc's if found using hacks.
crossplay is optional.. and what about cronus? ive been lasered by ps5 players too.. so dont blame pc players, i knowits easier to cheat on pc, but ps5 also got ways to cheat. i played cod for many years and cronus scripts are everywhere on pc and ps5.. no recoil and extra aim assist.. i play on PC and many of my friends play on ps5 so i have crossplay on, a lot of times i wud joke about sweaty steam lobbys, but my ps5 friends said that when they turn off the crossplay they face even sweatier cronus cheaters... problem is bigger then just pc users. im emerald1 atm i met only 1 obvious cheater, so situation is not that bad..
@@Lv1Crook By all means the situation isn't critical in the finals. Yet. But COD Is a joke these days in terms of integrity, I'm very well aware cheaters exist on ALL platforms not just pc this is not a witch hunt merely making an observation that is undisputable at this point.. crossplay with pc opens the door to far more cheating.. we could eleviate half the issue by adopting console crossplay ONLY. Sure there's still cheaters out there but 85% of them couldn't match with us anymore, I'll take that over nothing!
@@WolfBornePlays bro, just turn off the crossplay... i wud understand your point if there was no option to turn it off, but now u made a video about it saying that u are forced to play against pc players...
@@Lv1Crook It's the principle dude, I would like to play with my pc friends some times but again that brings all the cheaters with it.. I could switch cross play off and have literal minutes waiting to get into games.. It's all irrelevant, at the end of the day my video was exposing a cheater blatantly using wall hacks and aimbot yet its me who gets attacked for suggesting crossplay with pc opens the door to it maybe we should reevaluate this? Are we being fucking serious?
crossplay opens the door for xim and cronus too, it works both ways... but even then i want crossplay in my games as a option!!
@@Lv1Crook Then we need stronger anti cheat especially in this case in the finals! There's no easy solution its just a debate that needs to happen at this point when there's folk out there blatantly cheating in the open!
Why cheat it literally takes the fun out of the game 🤷♂️🤦♂️. As always great video 👍
Cheers Scotty, my next video is my return to Chivalry after 5 months break! I know a lot of folk have been requesting Chivalry so I will deliver on Tuesday! 👀
@@WolfBornePlays I can’t wait until the next video your best videos are on chivalry 2
@@scottygaming10 I'll try not to disappoint!
@@WolfBornePlays I don’t think you will 👍
Make it so that you have to put a tangent phone number when making an account lol
@@loslocos1086 haha, social security number, finger prints and eye scans! But sadly we then lose our civil rights because a few losers can't play fair with others. Slippery slope.
Welcome to The Finals lol
@@JimmySnakes It's almost every game that's crossplay with pc unfortunately!
@@WolfBornePlaysit’s unfortunate but the higher rank you move to in the skill based matchmaking, the more you’ll find yourself the only team not using SOMETHING like you’ve stated. Frustrating indeed.
its not that simple bro...
@@ivaneban2121 Please elaborate...
@@WolfBornePlays dealing/stopping cheaters, like they are a whole community that constantly developing new and more sophisticated cheats to avoid detection
@@ivaneban2121 I agree bro which is why a quicker temporary fix would be to eliminate pc to console crossplay and have it console dedicated only. That alone would mitigate 90% of the cheaters we encounter and bring back a little balance. But yeah it's a never ending battle that most devs are losing on!
@@WolfBornePlays You can turn the cross-play off the thing is made to lower the cue time and play with your friends that don't have console.
They shouldn't remove cross-play and screwing friends over just because you don't want to turn it off yourself.
I would still like to play with my one friend who prefers ps5.
@@aleknjejenja5903 I understand bro it's a difficult topic to balance but playing any kind of competitive game these days is infested with this behaviour. I wish I had a better solution.
ig its just easier to download cheats on pc and u can also make way more accounts on pc than on console so they also have that as a fail safe
@@matteo7301 Yup, there's no easy solution without invasive colonel level anti cheat but if that's what it takes then so be it. Otherwise they can help console players by removing crossplay with pc for a period of time to implement some changes to combat this issue.
@@WolfBornePlays the invasive anti cheat shouldn't be a problem as long as u have nothing to hide tho right? Cuz the way u make it sound here is like it's bad to non cheaters aswell
@matteo7301 There can be privacy issues if the studio got hacked, so would your data be other than that ofcourse I'm all for it.. whatever it takes bro! 👊🏻
@@WolfBornePlays so if the devs use it they just have to be safe, dosnt seem that bad
@WolfBornePlays if only console was free of cheaters 😢
Dude in what world are you living in? even console players do cheat.
@@USConnexion What world do I live in? A world that existed before cheaters became mainstream. Before people gave up hope in fighting them, ofcourse they are on console too what part of you came to the conclusion that I don't know that? BUT 85% of them disappear with console crossplay ONLY.. I'd take that over the current climate! Anyone arguing against that concept has likely used cheats/advantages themselves. It's really simple.
@@WolfBornePlays cause from the get go you started pointing fingers at pc players, why didn't you mention console players cheat too?
@@USConnexion If your feelings are hurt because i called out pc players that's your problem I'm afraid not mine dude. My video was encountering a cheat who was on pc just like every other video on my channel where I've encountered cheaters. In this instance I was talking about how pc to console crossplay clearly brings more cheaters into our lobbies. This is FACT. Again it's down to you personally feeling hurt that I've offended pc players and I didn't, only the cheaters. In the video I clearly say "most of you on pc are awesome" but you've chosen to be offended for some reason. I'm sorry but let's focus on the problem at hand and not name calling who said what, if you tell me people on console cheat I agree with you I don't get offended. What is wrong with the world today...
Controller players are always calling M&K players cheaters when their aim is good - at this point it's not even worth it playing without an aimbot.
@@XLORDPROPL You're mentality here is beyond twisted I'm not sure even what to say.. did you not see the gut clearly using aimbot and wall hacks?! Your statement clearly gives me the impression you obviously do or have used cheats. Not good.
@@WolfBornePlays I saw, you have an evidence that one guy is using an aimbot and he should be banned. My mentality is so straight and logical that you think it's twisted. I get called a cheater just because of one guy i don't even know, understandable.
@@XLORDPROPL You were defending the use of aimbot bro.. claiming it's not worth playing without one because apparently people think you're cheating regardless... this is what you said so yeah... wtf?? Not the best way to look at it, you're other comments on the video were also defending cheaters and describing gyro. One comment you literally deleted and changed yourself because you practically admitted to using cheats. Im not stupid dude, please this ain't the place to play these games so don't act confused.
@@WolfBornePlays If you think that telling the truth means defending cheaters, you’re wrong. I just said that it’s not worth playing without an aimbot against someone who already thinks you’re cheating. I don’t know about the other comments, but if I deleted them, it means I realized I was wrong. I change my comments often to make sure I’m not misleading anyone because it's important to me. Not understanding something doesn’t mean you’re stupid. Try to look at it with an open mind. I can explain everything to you-just tell me what you don’t understand. :)
@XLORDPROPL I understand your point and appreciate the clarity I was just surprised by the mentality around aimbot. Thanks
Rewasd players. Legal cheat
@@КристианМорозов-я2ы What?
The barrier to entry for cheating is far lower with PC players. It's just life. Turn of crossplay or stop bitching about it. They give you this option for a reason. Waste of a video, wait the queue time.
@@KeyzGP Spoken like you've used cheats before yourself my friend? Just because one portion of gamers are weak minded and lazy enough to cheat shouldn't mean we just accept it when it's literally ruining gaming culture. Crossplay cannot be turned off in all games so that's not s solid solution not to mention some folk actually want and deserve to play with their friends on other platforms and denying them that because of a few total losers is unacceptable. Lastly if you truly feel this way about the subject why did you watch the video? Your mentality on this topic is a little uneducated bro.
totally agree with you... crossplay option is there for a reason.
@@WolfBornePlays most of the ps5 games doest have a proper crossplay... its only apex, cod, bf, fortnite and the finals that has a crossplay.. most of the ps5 games has a crossplay only for xbox and ps5.. and rest of the games they have a option ON and OFF.. you making 0 sense with crossplay cannot be turned off?!
@@Lv1Crook There's some games like Chivalry 2 that aren't able to be played without crossplay so you're forced to play against pc players in a game where K&M has clear advantage, that's just one example. I can see you're not coming around to a larger perspective beyond your own and I don't have time to explain the entire pc to console rabbit hole. There's enough evidence out there bro, you'd be surprised how many people would switch to console only cross play given the chance.
@@WolfBornePlaysso you should tell this to the devs.. i am pro crossplay i think ps5, xbox, steam, steam decks, should be able to play together.. i like playing with my friends and only coz of crossplay i can play with them.. but if u wanna isolate yourself do what you want, and games that are forcing you to play with pc players without a option to turn it off is ass, and you shouldnt waste your time, or make a video about that game and the devs, coz now u making video about the finasl crossplay, when there is no problem.. so do us a favour and go into settings and turn the crossplay off! and you dont have to explain the rabbit hole to me, we all know that pc players gonna hate aim assist and ps5 players gonna blame m&k and cheaters, so for that reason we have the option for crossplay.
also, theres been a majnor pushback against anticheats recerntly.
we are in for more
@@Durzzawe can only pray to the gods things get cleaner brother!
dont play ranked.
ranked is another term for "cheaters" now adays
@@Durzza This is sadly true for the most part! 🤬