How Valve profits from Gambling - The Dark reality of CSGO: Part 2
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- It's time to address the responsibility of Valve. Subtitles available in many different languages!
Press release, sources and useful links: bit.ly/Press_release_part2
Explanation on how to check how much you've spent on steam is also in the press release!
Chapters:
0:00 intro
0:18 Is Valve aware?
2:05 The CSGO Cases
4:50 The popularity of CSGO case unboxings
8:10 The Chain of responsability
11:12 The legality of Loot boxes
13:46 The problem with these cases
15:45 It's overwhelmingly present
17:49 G.. addiction
21:52 How misunderstood it is online
25:47 Different G.. products
29:30 Normalization
30:38 Self Exclusion Features
35:45 Help and tools
36:55 Can we actually change?
40:24 Old man ranting
46:30 Old man ranting even more
47:30 Ending
49:29 Advice from Garrett. - Ігри
Full permission to react, reupload, monetize to any content creator. Small ones, big ones! I can't do this alone!
Massive respect to the people who were willing to talk about their problems in front of the entire internet in the hope to help other people.
It's easy (not actually) for me to put myself out there, I do this for a living. Not for them.. so I hope you will do justice to that!
You're a top G Jeff
The only thing that worries me is the frequent use of unregulated more governments having more international control over our lives should be a little cautious before asking those who have been corrupted by power to take more power.
The people you prevent from doing this won’t thank you. They have no idea the dangerous path they could have gone down, but I hope the community recognizes the good you are doing!
15:38 Where is the link Sir? (In my case about 200€ spend on Steam from which aproximately 8€ on keys beacause i opened 3 on my birthday.)
Oh, and are you interested in Hungarian subtitles? I don't think you have many viewers from there but who nows...
Tu as tout mon support !
Guy went from 120k€/month to minus 4k to help his viewers get out of addiction.
Thank you Jeff.
Professional bag fumbler
The sad part is he’s putting the blame Valve when the real problem is the people who can control themselves.
@@mcpiglet4379 valve is creating people who can't control themselves by allowing unregulated gambling
@@mcpiglet4379nice try, Valve
@@mcpiglet4379 holy fuck this hurts to read
Garrett, if you read this, know that if you relapse, it is not your fault. You are loved, you WILL become a pilot! Fall on your support system, you got this ❤ don’t beat yourself up, you are only human
@BodhiGeraci Thank you for the nice words kind stranger. Since my interview with Jeff, I’ve been doing a LOT better. It didn’t make it into the video, but I had mentioned that I never admitted it to anyone (not even my girlfriend) that I had a problem because of the deep shame I had. I have since opened up quite a bit, and me and my SO watched this the other day. Glad to know I DO have a great support system to help me out
Best of luck and much strength in your fight against the addiction!
HUGE respect to open up like this pubicly.
Massive respect to you Garrett. Take things one day at a time, keep your chin up, and don't quit. ❤
@@garrettpilot6490aw man great to hear ❤
@@garrettpilot6490Fly high king 🥹♥️
The integrity of this man is so incredibly worthy of respect!
So true!
But the thing is that it shouldn't even be necessary. He's doing good, but isn't this supposed to be the norm? How could we become so corrupted that everything is so much about money that people justify EVERYTHING with it, even obviously shady or close to criminal behavior?
I'd say that we've possibly come to a point where people hate the gambling websites and know that they're bad, but still appreciate Valve. For whatever reason. Is it only good PR? Just wtf.
I've come here form the streamer Trilluxe. He's admitted that he sponsored a website back in the days, but then had the realization that this was bad and that he shouldn't promote these things. However, he didn't even watch part 2 and thinks that "occasionally opening cases for special events" is still ok.
The whole tree is poisoned, and it starts with VALVE... Why isn't MyFreeFarm having such an issue? Because CS:GO or rather VALVE in general promote gambling via lootboxes. Stop this madness already.
HOUNGOUNGAGNE is the hero we need. Get em!
The hero we didn’t know we needed!
He's the hero we don't deserve but we need
Why is he needed? Parents need to have a real go not the game. I wouldn't let my kid touch this unless they are older than 18
@@P1DZz Because parents can't watch their kids 24/7 realistically, and those who manage to do it would be called a controlling parent, simple enough for you ?
@@AHappyCub they dont have to watch. They can manage the cards or paypal account
It's not easy to refuse that much money
I have massive respect for you, Jeff
I seriously doubt someone would just give him 120k on regular basis. Probably this is some kind of profit sharing system, where depending on how many people you bring, you get some share of their loses. Would this kind of channel bring some many losers? Probably no. Would it bring them consistently every consecutive month? For sure no. It's just a number to make him sound cool on UA-cam while he still promotes skin websites himself.
@ 💀
@Significantly smaller UA-camrs (Grim, juicy) have made millions from CSGORoll affiliates alone. Are you sure about what you’re saying ?
@ Sure he could, hes one of the biggest csgo youtubers. If anyone can its him. I dont think you understand how big and profitable this industry is
@@deblaker7372 His regular video has like 100-150k views. How many of those are potential gambling losers who don't already have an account? Like 1%? What's the average gambler loss? I guess there are outliers with big numbers but a regular Joe probably loses like 40eur? And what about next month? Most views will be from the same people. 120k monthly regularly doesn't add up to make sense for the gambling site. But yeah, I may be wrong.
Jeff has a gigantic heart. It is truly admirable and something very few people would have been able to do in this situation. Thank you, Jeff
I fully support this. Guy takes a hit for "the team" so to speak and gets a lot of backlash in return. Moral standards are very high. Enjoyable content aswell, very informative. Thanks!
What is very discouraging is that people trying to solve this issue will be seen as "fun ruiners" rather than people trying to protect undeveloped minds from starting down the path of a very dangerous addiction. I hope people like you keep pushing for these companies to take action.
Fr. If you are 18 and you want to gamble there are sanctioned sites for that
how about you PROHIBIT your minors from playing the game? enforce that. Imagine being a 1920s bozo banning alcohol cause minors also get drunk
@ales976 they did that. You have too be 21 in the US I think. Your example is dumb
@@Rotativo1my guy how do watch this 50 minute video and not understand that’s the entire point he’s making
@@thapiehero I understand that csgo gambling is the wild west, but if only underage kids weren't allowed to play the game, issue would be solved. But parents in the XXI centrury want their kids to be raised, taught and protected by external actors such as governments and corporations.
Good luck with that
47:48 I spit out my drink at the absurdity of realizing that this INCREDIBLY well made piece of journalism was made by someone, for someone, that will completely understand what you mean by "let me prefire that". I am blown away by your thoroughness and integrity when it comes to this subject.
This line is legit genius, nice additional detail to this import video topic
I noticed this aswell. Perfectly fitting
I just realized we haven't heard from you for awhile now, I hope you're doing well. :) always remember there's a community here for you!
Bro exposed the whole gambling industry and disappeared from the face of the Earth
8 months without a video.. Gaben finally got him 💀
the valve whistleblower 💀
Respect to everyone who agreed to an interview and openly share their experience. Great video!
Hearing Garrett, a kid with a really promising future, saying that he didn't realize that he spent 21k was so tragic..
Finally somebody actually calling out the root of the problem which is valve
No you’re the problem not valve. If you can’t control yourselves that between you and your parents not raising You right
I'd argue the root cause is free market capitalism and the consumers that encourage it by buying into it.
@@nsagoogle9581 nope because you can be raised against that
@@nsagoogle9581 Yeah, but they're the ones that enabled a free market system in their games unlike more standard lootbox practices where it is outright locked to your account. They originally did it because they can depreciate values by 15% on every transaction so that someone has to pay into it to participate in some way, but overall it just enables so much more bs. They are the ones that dictate how their market works and they made it a free unregulated market.
@@nsagoogle9581 and you would be wrong.
it's 15 of march 2024 and where are you my best csgo youtuber :(
Just last week a court in Austria ruled that Counter-Strike cases constituted illegal gambling in the country!
What a man Jeff! To refuse 120k per month because of moral reasons, it's incredible! You must be in 1% of people that would do that.
Thank you for pointing in the right direction Jeff.
He would become part of the wealthy 1% if he took that offer. Really admirable from him that his morals don't bend to the cash.
probably less than 1% i guess or at least i dont belive in humantiy anymore or never did xD
I like to tell myself I would turn it down too. Unless I was in that situation though, I cannot honestly say for certain. It would be very easy to just not look into it, everyone else does it, it's a normal part of the community, etc and just live happy in wilful ignorance.
As as cs lover, a father and just a now more aware citizen , I don't want to see young people being exposed to such a predatory digital environment. This need to change. Thanks Jeff for your time, effort, mental sanity and money spent to such an important topic. I will for sure look at how to contact my national authorities or elected people about this. May the croissants beurs with you ❤
Such dedication deserves nothing else but recognition. Thank you Jeff!
Hey Jeff, we miss you ❤
Thank you for being one of the few people who talks about this. I PRAISE u❤
Thank you bro
The situation is unhealthy and we need to address these matters
Why is it valves problem you can’t control yourselves?
@@mcpiglet4379 because they don't regulate the product they sell to you when they should
@@mcpiglet4379 if that was the case we would have been living in a utopia and all problems would not exist and ofc its us to blame as well we all have to be cautious
@@omagad2542 i've seen smoking ads and dont chain smoke, i've seen alchool ads and dont heavily drink, i've seen streamers and youtubers sponsored and doing content around that and im not addicted to that too, I understand some people get easily attached depending on how they think or react, or depending on their situations. But ultimately it's somebody decision to go for it or not
@@omagad2542 why not just uninstall the game if you can’t handle yourself? It also has a mature rating so anyone underage playing should either have self control or have the game taken away. It’s not valves fault it’s yours
Man, the choice to speak up and those months of hard work are incredible. It feels like you've took a major turn in your life with no going back, and God this is an admirable choice. I don't know you personally but idk I just feel so proud for you. Please never doubt a single second about this, this is the best choice you could have ever made
Twitch has updated his TOS and actually bans people for promoting gambling websites! Thank you for your work! This would have never happend without you❤
lol, no they don't enforce it. I'm literally watching a big csgo streamer right now that's promoting many of these websites.
Yes they did update their TOS but I've not seen anyone get banned and most streamers still have their promocodes on stream, banners below and commands in chat
@@HDSlimex True.
@@woodlandwrench It doesn't go into effect until September
Sorry Jeff, but unfortunately I cannot put into words the amount of respect and appreciation I have for you and this video. I can just see the way you tried to cover everything and the effort put into making a genuinely helpful video. As a random stranger on the internet, all I can give you is some love. ❤
Hello, an 18-year-old Dutch guy here, I'm sorry if this comment is a little long, but I just wanted to share my thoughts on this situation. To me personally, these videos have really shed light on a subject I didn't know too much about. Before these videos, I had of course heard of some gambling sites and had watched countless unboxings on UA-cam and Twitch, but I was not aware of how big of a problem gambling is to some people. I personally live in The Netherlands (I'm Dutch, who would've guessed.) and besides Belgium it is the only country in which you cannot open cases. For this reason, I have never had the urge to open cases because it is simply not possible. (It technically is, but I care too little about gambling to go through the necessary steps.) I noticed that in the chain you were describing the governments and laws of countries were missing. I know there is plenty of footage in the videos about exactly these subjects, but when it comes to that chain it is, in my opinion, an extremely important part that should not be forgotten. I honestly believe that the sole reason I have not opened any case is because of the fact that it is banned in The Netherlands. I think it's directly comparable to the "exclusion feature" which you described because you don't allow yourself to open cases whatsoever. However, in this instance you don't start opening them altogether, which kind of makes you oblivious to gambling, and it's also the reason you don't even feel the urge to take part in it at all. So the government and the laws in The Netherlands have in my opinion "saved" me from gambling and I think if other countries (preferably with a large population) also ban cases, far fewer people would get into gambling. I personally can't wrap my head around the principal of gambling and why it's even a thing. To me, the action of gambling is for a lack of a better word just plain stupid. Gambling will not make you money because the odds are against you. (And if they weren't, the people owing you the money would be in some serious trouble.) It will also not bring you happiness because of what I stated previously. (And if you think it will, have you even seen the videos?) Lastly, the people that own the casinos, sites, games and everything else are literally profiting and swimming in money which is generated by other people's sorrow. I know this is a controversial opinion, but to me, there is just simply no reason gambling should exist. That being said, I can sort of understand people that say it is just for fun, and it should only be done once in a while. However, I don't think this could be regulated and there would still be a significant amount of people that will gamble their lives away. As for kids, there is no way in hell you could ever convince me it's a good idea to let underage people gamble. It is basically not even their own fault anymore if, let's say, a 14-year-old gets addicted to gambling, they are just too vulnerable. I know it is really optimistic to say that we can just easily ban all types of gambling because, as stated in the video, it has (somehow) become pretty much synonymous with sports and esports and considering teams, such as heroic, are already struggling to be profitable this could very well lead to the complete collapse of the esports scene as we know it. I think the least we can do is make sure it is not the kids that fall victim to gambling, so we are, at least in some way, doing the morally correct thing and making sure that everyone who participates in gambling is at least 18 years of age. Speaking of morally correct things, I cannot, and I mean not even in the slightest bit, begin to fathom how you must have felt turning down that 120k a month sponsorship. I am very proud of you that you did not choose to go down that path, and I hope you will never doubt yourself for that decision. It was the morally correct decision, and that is worth way more than whatever money can buy. Thank you for that.
This comment actually got longer than I would have expected but as a last note I just want to say that I have played CS:GO consistently since I was 15 years old and that my view on this matter is probably (actually very likely) influenced by the fact that ever since I started playing CS:GO I have not been able to open cases. Because of this, I probably do not know any better than to call gambling a waste of money. If you have read this whole comment, first of all, thank you, and secondly, if you have anything to add or anything you want to say to me, I would gladly read your comment because I'm trying to learn and know more about this whole situation as well.
bro forgot what a paragraph was
format you comment blud its easier to read that way
@@SP1DYEE yes I agree. Long comments are welcomed here, I like reading a good comment myself. But it's easier to read with paragraphs. (and decent grammar / punctuation, but that's not an issue)
As a Dutch guy myself, I can relate to your feelings; I also could never open any cases and I think that has helped me think of gambling as a waste of money.
I would like to add that my parents also played a part here; my internet access was limited when I was younger, and if a gambling site was detected I would get kicked out by my own wifi network. Such behaviour of not allowing you to even look at these sites and lootboxes has helped massively I feel like.
The reason people gamble is much like smoking (ex smoker here). Like it starts small and you give it a try and it seems like this fun little thing that picks up your mood as a "treat" or "because you've had a rough day". Now, Nicotine is also physically addicting but I suppose so is the dopamine from winning. It's easy to get swept up in wanting to feel that great all the time and before you know it it has become a habit you cant stop - "eh, I'll do one more roll", eh, one more smoke.
One thing thats interesting to me re gambling specifically is the mechanics of making it addicting - the graphics, the "near miss" visualization, how it induces the feeling of "gotta be the next one". I believe there has been some academic papers connecting gaming and irl casino methods for achieving this.
The socialization / normalization as well. Like, if all content creators you follow do it (and have the ability to selectively show only when they are successful in cases like youtube) it cant hurt to try, right? Its just for fun! And then people with more impulsive personalities get roped in. It's about mass exposure, casting the widest net to get the people who are most vulnerable to such tactics. As said in the video, 5% of users generate most of the revenue. The especially vulnerable who find themselves in a pit that does not end without help and eventually cannot cope with the shame, with being led to "wasting money for no reason" as you say that they take their own lives. There is a reason. There are many reasons and many more it's so hard to stop when there are few systems to do so.
This is the first video I've seen on the subject of CS:GO gambling because I listen to niche documentaries to fall asleep, but the very loud reactions to the wins woke me up, haha. Ultimately I'm glad I sleepily watched the rest.
Edit: And the worst part about quitting an addiction is that it's like literally one click or one trip to the store away to start it up again. I can't fathom how hard it must be to be addicted to hard drugs and go through that in addition to a potential criminal record. If anyone with any type of addiction reads this: You're not alone. It's worth it in the long run.
Thanks Jeff. Hopefully the EU will have a deeper look at this, I'm pretty sure this is one of the only regulatory body who can look at this and take action at this point.
EU won’t do shit unless they can tax it, EU was made in the idea of a big marketplace, the people are second in this unfortunately. I still hope countries like Denmark will have a positive impact on the others.
@@Mistakes_but they can make a lot of money, casinos and lotteries are often run by states and the private ones pay taxes. They are currently loosing money here because illegal sites obviously will not pay taxes on gambling wins, and are taking customers away from regulated gambling
@@phil-jc8hp that’s exactly my point they won’t ban it until they find a way to gets their hands on it. Regulate online gambling is a hell of a thing as everything going on the internet would locate themselves on a territory that advantage them.
@@Mistakes_so can they tax the law that only usb-c chargers are allowed?
@@xxlolhunterxgerxx8871 I believe that one was for « ecological reason » also apple makes a lot of money in the EU but barely pays any taxes on the benefits it makes + don’t produce or have factory in EU so the EU doesn’t have apple in its heart cause the only jobs they create are from theirs stores and maybe warehouse but it represents a lot of money getting out of the EU
Both these last vids have been amazing pieces of digging journalism. I really hope that you can achieve at least part of what you want with this for all this effort. You are a really good person, Jeff!
Huge respect to you refusing that gambling sponsorship bro, you're a rare real one in these dark times
This idea of "you have to be dumb to gamble your life away" is just super out of touch with reality. Has nothing to do with intelligence, its all about the personality of the person and whatever is going on in their life, its a coping mechanism. I went to highschool with a guy who was super smart, straight A student who was passionate about programming, even back then when we were 16-17 he was already making significant ammount of money through making websites for small scale bussineses. After highschool we both went to different colleges so i didnt see him nor knew anything about him for 5 years til about a year ago when a mutual friend of ours told me he passed away in a car accident. While under the influence of meth he drove off the road at 190 km/h straight into a tree with another guy in a passanger seat, who also passed away. Back in highschool this man wouldnt even drink a shot of alcohol, he was drinking sprite during our graduation ceremony. Idk how he came to that point in his life but it for sure wasnt caused by him "being dumb".
Well said. Our brains all work differently and there are many substances or activities that affect us so differently.
Some people don't really enjoy alcohol. They've been drunk a couple of times in their life and it didn't do anything for them. There are some other people who are no less intelligent who just love it. I only recently realized that the first sort don't have any more willpower than the others but that it's just 100x easier for them to stick with one or two beers.
Unfortunately I belong in that second sort and realize now that I need to watch the hell out.
people who say shit like this just have 0 empathy ... that's simple as that ... they don't realize that it could happen to anybody around them or even themselves, they think they are "smarter" than that, just like the people who think that people who get scammed are the one responsible...
Like jeff explain, "it's designed to be addictive" just like scammers design their scam for a specific "audience", tech support scam mainly works on older people, why ? because they don't know shit about pc's therefore they don't even begin to be suspicious, but yet we blame the victims ... imagine telling a rape victim that it's her/his fault, it would be horrible, horrendous, insane, unforgivable and all that right ? but yet we casually tell people that are victim's of an industry designed to ruin life that it's THEIR fault ? fuck that.
my mother almost got scammed by a tech support, luckily i was at home that day and told her that nothing was wrong with her pc, that nothing will happen and that the people she had on the phone were scammers, how did she ended up in a situation like this ? she typed the name of her health insurance wanted to go on their website but didnt pay attention, clicked on the first link and tada, a page saying that her pc is infested or smth poped and the stress took over... their shit is designed to make you stress and think less by reassuring you that everything is gonna be taken care of ... some people fall for it, other's don't but it doesn't mean that they are stupid, or ffs that it's their fault
it's the same with gambling, considering the amount of exposure, the fact that most start super young, that there is no age verification and so on make gambling site the culprit, not the person who got exposed and got tempted ... i'm not gonna hope for theses people to find out what it's like to be addicted to something because i do not wish them to suffer but just watching the interview with garret brought tears in my eyes seeing how shameful he felt, the moment when he realized how much he really lost was way too hard and even typing this make me see the scene again... hiding the pain and shame under some kind of half assed smile and shit ...
@@the_bottomfraggerno. Its about intelligence. You can do the math and realise that you will lose all your money. If you knowingly does it even thought you know you will lose, then you are stupid.
Fine they're not dumb, they're weak willed.
Hopefully this video serves as a wake-up call to these irresponsible addicts, as they may accept what is told to them by someone they admire, but all this is really obvious for anyone raised with good morals.
Nevermind, I retract my statement. They are dumb. Anyone smart enough would immediately calculate the odds and figure out it isn't profitable, there are smart ways to gamble in games like poker but with csgo it is all purely luck.
if you gamble your life away you have no self control
Jeff, these two videos have made me have a huge change in my life. Just cause something is how it has always been done doesn't mean its the right way to be done. Being the person to speak up and spark the change, that is true strength.
I have the upmost respect for you as a person for doing this.
Thank You
hey bro where are u?
it's been 7months...
we all miss u and also we are worried about you
I know internationally speaking this won‘t change much. Especially considering the lack of enforcement… but I really want to start a petition at the Bundestag (German parliament) to regulate this sort of gambling. I probably won’t achieve much. But I really want to try to push this thing into a public debate.
Great video Jeff! Really shook me to my core.
Huge respect Jeff, to put this much work into something because your moral intuition tells you it is wrong to let it go on is amazing.
Thank you for ur effort to build a healthier community for csgo
Garrett hope you're reading this. Honestly just hats off for being so honest even about such a taboo topic. I hope you can continue fighting your addiction, but honestly I know you can, based on how reflected and well spoken you are.
@konrad9822 thank you for the kind words. Since my interview with Jeff, I’ve been doing a LOT better. I’ve found a way that works for me to keep me away from gambling as a whole. Addiction is a mental illness, so you have to fight it with your mind. I’m glad I got a chance to speak about my own experiences with addiction so someone out there can hopefully avoid the pitfalls I fell into!
Jeff, as someone who had some addictive tendencies but thankfully never had the resources to fall into the CSGO gambling hole, thank you for this PSA. I’d come to normalize the dangers this poses to the community over the years, and this series is the reality check the community needs. Thank you.
Hey. Thank you for highlighting the issue. When I was underage I started using these websites a little. It escalated quickly when I turned 18-19. One single night I lost ~$5000. This turned into a drug abuse, loosing my gf, shattering my realtionship with my family and friends. This is important. I am, however, now sitting a bit over 4 years clean of everything cause my friends didnt give up on me. Thank you for doing what you're doing. it means alot more than you think
Hey man, I’m sorry to hear about your experience. I’m glad that you’re doing better now and things will continue to get better 🙏🏼
All love my dude ❤️
Remember that it was your fault and NOT the gambling sites. Glad you managed to better yourself
These clips surely made some noise and made me more aware than I was before regarding gambling. I have never lost a cent gambling nor did I gambled. I cannot be addicted and gambling seems like a waste of time, money and brain cells for me. Before watching this series I lived under the impression that people with gambling addiction were just lacking self control. Thank you for making me aware that it is indeed a disease and people do not need judging (not implying that I did) they just need help and support. It was enlightening to get an understanding of how and why people tend to gamble and have this whole process, a process I could not comprehend, explained. I hope that less lives will be lost and less money spent by regular people. These huge companies need to stop stepping on bodies to get the bag.
Thank you Jeff for your courage and your work over the past months.
This is the right thing to do and I hope this will get some content creators and pros to react, hopefully catch the attention of the authorities, and get enough dirt on Valve to get them to not replicate the same rotten business model within CS2.
Hey Jeff, it’s been a while, and I just hope you’re doing okay. Wishing you all the best, dude!
I love what you are doing so much. The time and effort you put into this is what we needed grossly. You aren't the hero we deserve, but the one we need. Thanks so much mate
I hope your family gives you a huge hug, this is career suicide, but it is something none has dared to talk about before. I truly wish you find peace of mind even after this.
@@cs_kevin what are you talking about
And then there's 3kliksphilip with his Case Unboxing Millionaire which clearly shows that you always lose.
On the other hand, I'm addicted to listening to Atomic Amnesia now 😂
way cheaper though :D
I love 3kliksphilip for making that video. Sometimes I think “hay I could waste a few dollars maybe I get something wouldn’t hurt to just try once.” Then I watch one of those videos from him and see how unlikely you are to get anything even remotely okay.
Might even spin some virtual cases to test the odds. “Only five to see what I would have gotten”. Usually end up spinning more than five after getting nothing lol.
Really glad he made those videos because they’ve been one reason I’ve never opened a case.
All I learned is that if I want a skin I should just buy it because you will spend more than the cost of the skin on keys if you are lucky.
Hi, key-drop was just banned in Poland
Man, you are amazing for this, CSGO really needs to change and hopefully this awareness can get both valve and countries to react stronger to this illness.
Also commenting for the algorithm to pick this up further
Jeff, all I can say is bravo. You've managed to do such a top-tier work of journalism. I really hope this 2 videos of yours make it big. Chapeau, amazing work, it's really sad the state of things altogether, but this video gives me hope. Thanks again Jeff :) I really hope we can fix unregulated gambling together!
This hits hard for me since I'm an addict too, not gambling but it's all similar to a degree. You won't get cold sweats, muscle pain and vomiting when you stop gambling but it's hard either way. It's hard to get better, sometimes I feel that it's not even worth it and I should just give up since I'm too weak to not be an addict for life.
@Januszkurahenowski2860 I believe in you!! No matter what addiction(s) you may have, there are always options. The fact that you recognize that you have a problem is already a huge step. Lots of people either avoid admitting it (like myself) or don’t see the damage they are doing. Personally, I have a very addictive personality. Gambling is just one of a few addictions I’m battling. You just have to take it slow, and work yourself up to a point where you are happy. If you don’t think you can combat it, seek professional help. There are thousands of people qualified to help out with these exact type of situations. I hope you can battle this, and I believe in you :)
Just checked out the new update for CS2 and saw the changes made to zeus. The first thing I thought was "OMG Jeff is gonna love this!". Wish we could see him react to this and be super excited for his favorite weapon
Jeff I am in awe of your tenacity and commitment!! Thank you so much for bringing this to light. This 100% exposes kids to gambling and then they become adults and are hooked into the toxic cycle. This is an epidemic and I hope someone holds these tyrants accountable
Sometimes I wonder if opening cases is the main game now, and the whole CS part is the minigame.
tru words
csco skin gambling when
The effort you put into this is just insane. Huge props
Another crazy thing is that after watching this video I started getting recommend videos and shorts about people opening cs:go cases
You are a hero and your career is evolving into something more than a let's player or counter strike video journalist, you are doing some real valuable work and I hope you can accomplish something major. I hope you will never be silenced by these massive corporations.
i dont often comment on videos, but this one was special. thank you so much jeff. ive been spreading the word offline, but i think the only actor who can change this is countries. everyone else makes too much money to care, sad world :/
i'm downloading these parts and if they ever "go missing" I'll reupload them. This is an issue that won't go away unless we make it happen
Thank you Jeff for pouring in all this energy and seeing it through to the end. We forget about all the time you could’ve walked away because this is such a hard topic for one person to address.
I’ve personally never opened a case before. I want to say “oh because i understand basic statistics,” but the truth is I know how quickly I would lose control if I started. I really hope things can change and at an absolute minimum baseline, we don’t have to have another preventable death from this loophole.
One thing that really threw me off when watching this video is seeing people using the argument that this whole thing isn't a problem because it's the same as drinking, such as at 23:32.
To me it just seems like they're missing the entire point, because yeah, gambling and drinking can be seen as being somewhat similar, since it's perfectly fine to do it every once in a while so long as it doesn't go out of control. But the thing is, if you're going to drink, how do you get the alcohol?
If you go buy some at a store and you look young, they'll ask you to show some sort of ID to prove you're of the legal drinking age.
If you go to a bar it's the same story, and chances are they'll even refuse to serve you if they think you had enough to drink for the night.
But when it comes to those unregulated gambling sites, no one is going to try to verify that you are over 18, and they certainly won't try to stop you from gambling too much.
The point is that you are most likely to develop an addiction when you start gambling/drinking at a young age, and to keep using the same comparison, those websites are doing something akin to selling alcohol to underage people behind the grocery store. So chances are they'll get addicted after trying it, come back to them for more, and it all goes downhill from there...
So no, the problem isn't gambling, the problem is the websites that enable underage people to gamble, and make money off of their addiction.
With gambling there is also no limit how much money you can loose. With drinking and harder drugs there is a limit of how much product you can physically consume and that caps the total possible loss. I can easily gamble 10 million dollars away, I can't spend all that money on booze because my liver would tap out before I run out of money 😂
@@neues3691 Goog point!
@@neues3691 Yeah but drinking is obviously worse because of... death, death by overdose, coma, suicide and most importantly, killing other people while drunk driving, homicide and rape. Compared to the cancer that alcohol is in the whole world, gambling is an ant.
Pointless because most kids will get their first contact with alcohol from their family anyway. Take a sip of champagne on the new years eve, wine, "rite of passage", whatever. Alcohol already won in our world. Alcohol comsumption only increases. I don't think its proper to make a comparison with gambling unless its to warn about what gambling could become.
Finally someone is making noise around this problem. Hope this video receives all the attention it deserves and some of these "big players" will realize they have created a toxic environment for the youth.
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Amazing video. Well put together. I hope this garners the traction it deserves
Jeff is a hero for doing this despite the hate this will cause to come his way from the industry and his peers.
Thanks Jeff, you're a real G. Your efforts are not in vain, Twitch already updated their Rules within 2 hours of you uploading the video, let's hope they also actually enforce it.
No. Hes not brave, hes not a hero, hes not something special. Hes litterly just saying "gambling is bad" and then he acts like hes a god.
Saying "gambling is bad" is NOT heroic, its NOT controversial.
@@filip9564he isn’t saying gabling is bad you actual clown…. Did you even watch the video?
The different between unregulated gambling and regulated gambling are night and day.
I truely hope no one in your life is ever affected by addiction you sad person
@@filip9564 you don't get it.
@@filip9564 dense as a fucking rock
@@filip9564 Salty. XD
It is so scary to think about that u need to make more than one 45 min video to talk about all the shady stuff gambling sites use to make profit and sometimes scam people. Thank you so much for making these videos and show the world the real stuff they are dealing with ❤
Thank you for making this documentary. I hope it reaches widespread audiences!
I'm kinda watching this video late, but let me tell you, I was one to encourage to take the money and that's because I never thought these websites could be illegal with how much they're advertised.
I have immense respect for the choices you've made and for helping the people you've interviewed and even paying for subscriptions to help people stop gambling.
That's one of the many great thing you've done and I genuinely think you'll end up having a big impact some day, I think it'll take time but it'll come.
You and Richard Lewis are some of the very few fighters to keep people accountable. Unfortunately the rest tolerates or even supports getting "the bag" above any principle.
I still appreciate immensely that you made this video, I was mostly lucky not to go down a similar path with gambling addiction and I honestly never bothered to properly consider how predatory and irresponsible valve is with cases until now.
Also, I believe in all of you who want to quit. You can fill that new empty space in your life with so much more fulfilling things.
Many youtubers have talked against loot boxes and gambling addiction in games. Total Biscuit, Josh Strife Hayes, Stephanie (Jim) Sterling, to name a few.
Incredible amounts of respect for this man. This is an amazing piece of journalism and it gives truely good insights into the dark, chaotic state cs go gambling has gotten into. I hope these videos will start something bigger. Much more attention is needed on this and you're doing incredible work in trying to start it.
Please come back, I miss your videos
Does anybody know what's up with him? Is he still active somewhere, twitter, twitch, whatever?
Yes he is active on Twitter
I literally VAC Banned myself when i was like 15-16 y/o almost 2500 days ago because I was so addicted to opening cases and gambling on third-party sites, it was the only way I could think to stop myself.
I think i respect cheaters more than csgo crate openers, at least they have to fight "something" even if that something is VAC, and play the game even if that game is being an asshole to the enemy as much as possible
The level of integrity needed to make these high quality, high effort and thoughtful videos is truly commendable Jeff. Being surrounded by addiction in my family now and having grown up in a broken home (as so many do) with extremely poor self control, I searched for joy and dopamine hits in everything. I'm grateful that I only started playing CSGO in my twenties, because I probably would have been completely sucked into the gambling element as a teen. The fact that Valve virtue signals by sending out cease and desist letters but doesn't cut-off API support for some of these sites is pathetic. With these huge amounts of money involved you're certainly not making friends of some powerful people, and you have my utmost respect for doing it anyway. Keep being true to yourself.
I have so much respect for your integrity and professionalism. Incredible
Regarding the "shame" stigma with gambling. There is no shame on people with addictions who need help. The shame lies with the companies and people making money off people's misery and misfortune, but also shame lies with these people enabling, and making excuses for gambling.
Literally subscribed because of the raw moral fiber of this man. I would follow such an honorable man into virtual battle!
huge respect to garret and all the others speaking this openly about their experience. all the best to you.
120k A MONTH is such an unfathomable number to reject. 120k a month is so absurdly wild that I wouldn't blame ANYONE for taking it, hell given the opportunity I would not have made the same decision as you, you are simply a better man than me. Rejecting it purely on a moral and ethical obligation to protect children and people from gambling addictions and not only that spending 4k on codes for people seeking help. This is by far THE most noble thing I've ever seen from a content creator on ANY platform over the 15 years I've been on the internet. You are a man of men. One of the most respectable content creators on the internet period. Subscribed for life. I wish you all the best.
He's not better for being stupid. Parents are responsible for knowing what their kids do online. A kid can't waste money on a gambling site unless their parents enable it.
This is vital work, thank you. You have a knack for investigative journalism
Comment for the algorithm
on it o7
Thank you jeff for your passion to stop this problem
As someone who has struggled with gambling it really restores my faith that you are speaking up about this and in such a critical and well put together manor as well as offering and highlighting the means for help. I hope there is more change in the CSGO gambling scene inspired but your videos! Great stuff!
Huge admiration Jeff. It takes much more than one could describe in a comment to do something like that.
This is real journalism! Great work
Incredible work, thanks for putting this all together! Part 2 was even better than part 1, just really well done. Thank you for addressing this and having the courage to deal with all of what revolves around this topic! Huge respect to you!
Kliksphilip music goes hard. These two videos are incredible, I hope they reach the people who need to hear it. This work is valuable and meaningful- you should be proud.
I'm glad LTT/LTX/WAN-Show picked your story up, because I can tell you with a 95% confidence that almost nobody else, with any significant amount of influence, will do it. Gambling is the hand that feeds them, and you don't bite the hand that feeds you (unless you're my cats).
Thank you for shining light on the issue. You made me face the truth about my problem and I hope that it helped others as well. We are one step closer to a better, healthier community
Recently, I was watching csgo case opening, and it was like telling me to do csgo case opening. Thanks to you, I could stay away from case opening and just enjoy csgo like before.
Thanks, Jeff ❤
this was an amazing document thank you jeff for making it and bring light to such a serious issue
I so hope that garret will beat his addiction. My heart goes out for him
Believe it or notJeff, what you're doing here will be part of history, thank you.
My nephew is hooked on this stuff.
Finally part 2 ❤
Hi Jeff. Thank you for all the hard work you did. This is a very important video and discussion. You're doing the right thing, even with all the hate you're getting.
Thank you for making these videos, I really hope this will begin change and put some recognition on the problem
You're a good man Jeff.
All big channels should talk about this, but they are getting paid. Very good work and thank you. That is what we need in the future, people where look for the truth and shit on the money to stay still. You make a change and thats very big.
Thank you, Jeff. This is desperately needed, and we need to start somewhere.
I can only commend your ethics Jeff. Knowing myself, I wouldn't fight the behemoth, but instead take the easy money.
Huge respect.
What you have done for this community and for the people is incredible.
Thank you
This is awesome Jeff. Hope you feel proud because you are walking the walk.
I thought you might be taking the easy way out recently, and like the comments you quoted, wouldn't have held anything against you. But what you are doing is brave, and it takes a lot to decide to act in a situation like this.
Hope change comes.
Thank you! I hope your effort sparks real change!
I was really let down when you opened for sponsorships, but i am so happy with what came out of it, even if unintentional.
Thanks for braving to use your voice in this well thought out way. My best wishes for you!
Wow! Thats incredible work! Congratulations Jeff for putting your youtube career on the side to help the rest of us. The hero we dont deserve
Major respect for bringing attention to this, best of luck making a difference in the future!