What I think is neat is that the videos were substantially different on focus and approach! Honestly rather fun watching both since at least time-wise there was surprisingly little overlap.
So glad you mentioned Jan Boklöv. The man is a legend. I remember how his jumps were longest, but he never won because of the low score. Then they changed the rules and he won the world cup total that year. However, he was at his best when being the underdog. One got the feeling he didn't like the pressure being the champ and he quit ski jumping 2-3 years later. But a legend still.
He won even though they gave him low points. A few years later it was no point in giving low points since almost everyone was using it. When everybody used his style it got harder to win which might have been the reason he quit.
@Karin Shedd I don’t think this video even grasps the surface of how important this sport is in Slovenia. We traditionally hold the last event of the season on the biggest slope in the world. The event pretty much crashes the country for the whole weekend, especially in smaller towns. And it is for a reason: we are good at it. This video was just posted after Slovenia won gold in mixed teams at olympics. Our other two medals also came from female ski jumping: one gold and one bronze.
had the same feeling. Someone outside of our little cligue (Norway, Austria, Germany, Swiss, Poland, Czech, Slovenia, Finland and Japan) even knows it exists? wow
There is no limit on how long can you jump. It's all depend on a hill size. Today, the largest hills allow about 250m jumps. Janez Gorišek (the large hill designer, the designer of Planica and Vikersund hills) already have a design for 500m hill. But he says that we must do baby steps. So we can see the construction of 300m hill here in Planica in the future. Planica was always a place where new goals were set in the ski jumping. First man that jump over 100m, was in Planica, the first man who jump over 200m, was in Planica.
Well it's official now: Cheddar has overtaken Vox in making the more informing, funnier and overall more interesting educational videos on UA-cam! Congrats! 🙂 👏
The level where they start is also adjusted very very carefully for the better jumpers so they don't fly too long. Check some jump, like Ahonen WR (fell) in Planica. That year he was head and shoulders above everybody and that was the last jump of the year so he went all in but the starting level was way too high. He took the flight down from about 10 meters vertical and landed on almost level. Broke his tail bone and shit. If he would have flown that to the end, it would have been easy 250+ and probably death.
The US is good in summer Olympics, but not really Winter Olympics. That’s why they have to introduce new snowboard events all the time to keep the US audience interested.
I just got back from competing in women’s ski jumping at Beijing Olympics this year and loved seeing more interest in ski jumping and it’s technique! Thank you guys for spreading awareness for the sport I love!
I believe the university of Leipzig calculated, that with the right hill construction there is no large difference in flight speed and impact pressure between a 250m hill and a 500m one, the only large exception would be airtime
As a Canadian I want to let you know that we officially got a medal in ski jump I knew you’re American UA-cam channel but we officially got one it since 1924 in North America and it’s first Canada medal 🥉and it’s makes Olympic debuts as mix ski jump event
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 , lol. its lo-fi if that makes sense. No extra graphics / fluff just for the sake of it. Just direct, to the point info.
I was just talking about the evolution of Ski Jumping with my mom a few days ago, I'm going to have to send this video her way! I can't believe we didn't get the clip of the "Agony of Defeat" guy in a video about the history of Ski jumping but I guess that's probably down to you being too young to remember ABC's Wide World of Sports and my age showing. Regardless, you've quickly become my favorite content producer/presenter on Cheddar, and whatever happened to your arm I hope it's not serious and it heals soon!
@Karin Shedd He is, but the success of this sport in Poland in terms of viewing numbers belongs to Adam Małysz. He started it all with his amazing 2000/2001 season of winning. Since then there was Stoch, Kubacki, Żyła so we're really lucky to watch it each winter. I still remember Małysz' ski jumping rivalry with Martin Schmidt and Sven Hannavald. Those were the days. There are still millions of Poles who watch the world cup each weekend.
@Karin Shedd I would say that Adam Małysz is probably the most known sportsman in Poland. At least, I have such feeling, personally. Moreover, when I was a kid, I remember that a popular thing was to build small ~0.5m high snow ramps somewhere on sides of smaller ski tracks. We could at least for a short moment feel almost like Małysz, haha!
A very old passion of my teenage days.. Not to jump, but to watch.. I especially loved the Championships in the end of the season where 8 nations with 4 jumpers each compete in 2 rounds for the most points total And even the approach was different back at the time, for example (in general) Norway always wanted to maximise the distance of jumps and Japan always tried maximise style points until later things got relatively maximised on both sides of the totals and became more sophisticated but a bit more repetitive I guess can thank YT for the suggestion but weird how this was recommended 🤔
Ayyy!! Vox/Cheddar collaboration, anyone? (Probably just a total coincidence but funny that they are both about the same thing released around the same time)
I'm Austrian and ski jumping is the only sport I regularly watch, ski jumpers and skiers are super stars here. I've heard people say it's more of a religion than a sport 😁
Hello, I usually like your videos a lot but you put the hill size second when it should be first. Also you said in the beginning that points are gained or lost for the starting level, wind and style. The wind points have been there only about a decade or so.
So how big were the ramps that they used back in those days? I bet the current ones are bigger and thus allow faster speeds with more falling down the hill to get distance
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Interesting ”coincident” that vox also did a video on this topic…still fascinating tho Btw 🤔 if 90km/h = 56mph, does that mean that You would ruthly drive 80km/h on a 45mph speed limited stroad? …Jesus! No wonder ther dangerous to live by
Yess skii jumping is suuper safe, as long as you land propperly. Jokes aside when somone starts out training to doo skii jumps like these, they train on smaler jumps first, there is also a lott of practice in the gym they then gradually increase the sice of the hill along with their skill. So when they are on these bigg monster jumps. They have already learned everything nesseseary to do this madness safely.
As others have said already, the limit is pretty much determined by the hill. There is a video by german TV station SWR ("So weit können Skispringer maximal fliegen"), sadly yet without english subtitles, where they are quoting scientists who calculated all the air resistance, distance, angles etc., coming to the result that with the right angle of the hill, going from 233 meters to 500 meters would only result in an increase in landing velocity of about 1.5%. Their suit & the skies basically work as the worst wingsuit ever, and they reach terminal velocity before the current world record mark. As far as I know there are also rules that limit the size of the hill, but if anyone with enough money to modify an existing slope (I'm suprised Red Bull didn't already do this, but Elon Musk, if you're watching this, buy a mountain and convert it into the greatest ski jumping hill of all times) or with a mountain big enough gets in on it, there will be athletes willing to try it. Although when it comes to the size of the mountains you build those ramps on, you can't go too high above sea level, or else the lack of air will prevent long jumps.
There's apparently limits to the size of clothing in the sport for this same reason. A few people got disqualified today cuz their clothes were too big.
Swimmers who have more fat more floats, skate figure changed rule no longer accept flip. I think gymnastics beam and floor should change rules too, they need to land once. They can’t make up balance after twice jumping land.
RIGHT?!? WTF was that comment. I could maybe get behind if they said something like hockey, snowboarding, etc, but curling?? No, I find that completely insulting and I don't even ski jump.
Between Vox's video earlier and this one, I now know everything about this sport and am ready to compete in the 2026 Games. Wish me luck!
Careful not to break your neck, I’m rooting for you!
@@nikkicastle3423 they literally explain how it's actually a safe sport? I'll be fine thanks. See, I learned everything I need to know about it
It was a joke, you absolute dork.
@@ivorything I would complain about the safety of flying on 2 pieces of desk, 10m above the ground with speed of 100km/h, but ok :)
it's interesting how this video is to about ski jumping like the one from vox 5 hours later
I was literally wondering the exact same thing I just finished seeing the Vox video
The Olympics are happening so it makes sense to make videos about skis
@Karin Shedd honestly it looks like such an incredible sport you literally fly hundreds of feet in the air
What I think is neat is that the videos were substantially different on focus and approach! Honestly rather fun watching both since at least time-wise there was surprisingly little overlap.
Imo the one by vox is a lot better
So glad you mentioned Jan Boklöv. The man is a legend. I remember how his jumps were longest, but he never won because of the low score. Then they changed the rules and he won the world cup total that year. However, he was at his best when being the underdog. One got the feeling he didn't like the pressure being the champ and he quit ski jumping 2-3 years later. But a legend still.
He won even though they gave him low points. A few years later it was no point in giving low points since almost everyone was using it. When everybody used his style it got harder to win which might have been the reason he quit.
I’m sure Cheddar and Vox had a happy little accident.
as an austrian im rly surprsed to see a ski jumping video from cheddar.
@Karin Shedd I don’t think this video even grasps the surface of how important this sport is in Slovenia. We traditionally hold the last event of the season on the biggest slope in the world. The event pretty much crashes the country for the whole weekend, especially in smaller towns.
And it is for a reason: we are good at it. This video was just posted after Slovenia won gold in mixed teams at olympics. Our other two medals also came from female ski jumping: one gold and one bronze.
had the same feeling. Someone outside of our little cligue (Norway, Austria, Germany, Swiss, Poland, Czech, Slovenia, Finland and Japan) even knows it exists? wow
It makes total sense that vox and cheddar both have a skiing video. The Olympics are happening right now. Coincidences exist still.
There is no limit on how long can you jump. It's all depend on a hill size. Today, the largest hills allow about 250m jumps. Janez Gorišek (the large hill designer, the designer of Planica and Vikersund hills) already have a design for 500m hill. But he says that we must do baby steps. So we can see the construction of 300m hill here in Planica in the future. Planica was always a place where new goals were set in the ski jumping. First man that jump over 100m, was in Planica, the first man who jump over 200m, was in Planica.
Well it's official now: Cheddar has overtaken Vox in making the more informing, funnier and overall more interesting educational videos on UA-cam! Congrats! 🙂 👏
lol if the world was new york maybe
And less political
@@xBigBean I'm European (i.e. not new yorker) and enjoy both.
Although it seems they’re gliding just above the snow, it still captivates, how they’re legs do not break or something
Right? It's actually a much safer sport than people assume.
It is saver than it seems at first, but to compare it with curling is very odd.
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The level where they start is also adjusted very very carefully for the better jumpers so they don't fly too long. Check some jump, like Ahonen WR (fell) in Planica. That year he was head and shoulders above everybody and that was the last jump of the year so he went all in but the starting level was way too high.
He took the flight down from about 10 meters vertical and landed on almost level. Broke his tail bone and shit. If he would have flown that to the end, it would have been easy 250+ and probably death.
Vox literally just posting this topic a few hours ago....
The US is good in summer Olympics, but not really Winter Olympics. That’s why they have to introduce new snowboard events all the time to keep the US audience interested.
I just got back from competing in women’s ski jumping at Beijing Olympics this year and loved seeing more interest in ski jumping and it’s technique! Thank you guys for spreading awareness for the sport I love!
I believe the university of Leipzig calculated, that with the right hill construction there is no large difference in flight speed and impact pressure between a 250m hill and a 500m one, the only large exception would be airtime
As a Canadian I want to let you know that we officially got a medal in ski jump I knew you’re American UA-cam channel but we officially got one it since 1924 in North America and it’s
first Canada medal 🥉and it’s makes Olympic debuts as mix ski jump event
Need more videos with you and fewer to none with the New York voice over guy
I see Karin, I click and watch regardless of the topic. No disappointments yet.
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@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 , lol. its lo-fi if that makes sense. No extra graphics / fluff just for the sake of it. Just direct, to the point info.
I was just talking about the evolution of Ski Jumping with my mom a few days ago, I'm going to have to send this video her way! I can't believe we didn't get the clip of the "Agony of Defeat" guy in a video about the history of Ski jumping but I guess that's probably down to you being too young to remember ABC's Wide World of Sports and my age showing. Regardless, you've quickly become my favorite content producer/presenter on Cheddar, and whatever happened to your arm I hope it's not serious and it heals soon!
5:55 Yeah, these ski jumpers are just like us!
You got Derek'ed! Steve Mould and Stand Up Maths can tell you all about that. Still, it is a different slice off the same cake on offer here. Bravo.
I love ski jumping. It's a huge sport in Poland (to watch)
@Karin Shedd He is, but the success of this sport in Poland in terms of viewing numbers belongs to Adam Małysz. He started it all with his amazing 2000/2001 season of winning. Since then there was Stoch, Kubacki, Żyła so we're really lucky to watch it each winter. I still remember Małysz' ski jumping rivalry with Martin Schmidt and Sven Hannavald. Those were the days. There are still millions of Poles who watch the world cup each weekend.
@Karin Shedd I would say that Adam Małysz is probably the most known sportsman in Poland. At least, I have such feeling, personally.
Moreover, when I was a kid, I remember that a popular thing was to build small ~0.5m high snow ramps somewhere on sides of smaller ski tracks. We could at least for a short moment feel almost like Małysz, haha!
You and Vox posted ski jumping videos the same day. Whoa 🤯
I guess I learned a lot about the basics of ski jumping from Vox and Cheddar coincidental video
A very old passion of my teenage days.. Not to jump, but to watch.. I especially loved the Championships in the end of the season where 8 nations with 4 jumpers each compete in 2 rounds for the most points total
And even the approach was different back at the time, for example (in general) Norway always wanted to maximise the distance of jumps and Japan always tried maximise style points until later things got relatively maximised on both sides of the totals and became more sophisticated but a bit more repetitive
I guess can thank YT for the suggestion but weird how this was recommended 🤔
Ayyy!! Vox/Cheddar collaboration, anyone?
(Probably just a total coincidence but funny that they are both about the same thing released around the same time)
Just a coincidence. Each brings a little something unique though!
@@cheddar Yep! :)
You guys focused more on the specifics while Vox was more just the history part.
@Karin Shedd Haha.😂 I guess so!
I really like this new-ish "youtuber?" for the channel.
Can't wait when we can use this as a mode of transportation
I'm Austrian and ski jumping is the only sport I regularly watch, ski jumpers and skiers are super stars here. I've heard people say it's more of a religion than a sport 😁
This is much better than the Vox one
⛷ I wonder if @SciShow is putting out a Ski Jumping video today?
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When Swedes tell me something is better done their way, I usually agree...
Hello, I usually like your videos a lot but you put the hill size second when it should be first.
Also you said in the beginning that points are gained or lost for the starting level, wind and style.
The wind points have been there only about a decade or so.
So how big were the ramps that they used back in those days? I bet the current ones are bigger and thus allow faster speeds with more falling down the hill to get distance
I love this Karin 😍
8:18 I don't know if she knows but that's the year when summer Olympics will happen
I just want to see more old timey ski jumpers spazzing out flailing around in the air like "oops I made a terrible mistake"
You made science cool again!
are cheddar and vox related channels?
Surprised the jumpers don't flap their arms for more lift.
Ok now I just want to see ski jumpers wear those flying/gliding suits to glide super far!
Thank you for putting your face on the internet 😊
3:10 - Zakopane!
2032 is a summer olympic year so if we could medal then that would be truly impressive
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seems like Vox and Cheddar both bad the same idea for today's video :)
Interesting ”coincident” that vox also did a video on this topic…still fascinating tho
Btw 🤔 if 90km/h = 56mph, does that mean that You would ruthly drive 80km/h on a 45mph speed limited stroad? …Jesus! No wonder ther dangerous to live by
Yess skii jumping is suuper safe, as long as you land propperly.
Jokes aside when somone starts out training to doo skii jumps like these, they train on smaler jumps first, there is also a lott of practice in the gym they then gradually increase the sice of the hill along with their skill. So when they are on these bigg monster jumps. They have already learned everything nesseseary to do this madness safely.
As others have said already, the limit is pretty much determined by the hill. There is a video by german TV station SWR ("So weit können Skispringer maximal fliegen"), sadly yet without english subtitles, where they are quoting scientists who calculated all the air resistance, distance, angles etc., coming to the result that with the right angle of the hill, going from 233 meters to 500 meters would only result in an increase in landing velocity of about 1.5%. Their suit & the skies basically work as the worst wingsuit ever, and they reach terminal velocity before the current world record mark. As far as I know there are also rules that limit the size of the hill, but if anyone with enough money to modify an existing slope (I'm suprised Red Bull didn't already do this, but Elon Musk, if you're watching this, buy a mountain and convert it into the greatest ski jumping hill of all times) or with a mountain big enough gets in on it, there will be athletes willing to try it. Although when it comes to the size of the mountains you build those ramps on, you can't go too high above sea level, or else the lack of air will prevent long jumps.
Cheddar x Vox production!
They should combine wing suits with this.
Exactly!
There's apparently limits to the size of clothing in the sport for this same reason. A few people got disqualified today cuz their clothes were too big.
@@Ripz-TnT it can still be done outside of the competitions.
@@Gebri3l Wouldn't that just be the sport of Wingsuiting?
I really like her! The girl in the video. She's really cool!!! Great way of making vids.
Good.
Wait, what? Vox make a video about the same thing literally a few hours before you! Was there some kind of collaboration here? If not, who copied who?
As a ski jumper
Yeah i agree with a bunch of the comments here, this sport needs wingsuits!
I hate when they start adding style points to stuff that farthest, fastest, highest, heaviest, etc. should be the only measurement for winning.
Is that a plushy uterus on the wall in the background?? :D
Vox had the same video idea ^^ oh well, happens!
Hehe Vox just posted a video about this
idk why this one felt too much patronizing in the exposition compared to previous cheddar videos or it's just my impression?
Who's Bock-love? I think his name is Boklöv, as in book-leaf, or if you want, he's a page
They should just add wing suits.
I wonder why the skis have a rectangular cross section, surely a wing section would be better…may not allowed?
I learned what i needed to know about skiing from Goofy
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Are Vox and Cheddar the same company?
C'mon, Vox just uploaded the SAME video on this very particular unpopular topic, coincidence? Or enigma of the Mystical??
I think I have a new crush
Vox posted it first though
We all know it's because Red Bull gives you wings
I kinda like the presenter now, with the humor and stuff, i was slightly against it when it started, the format. 🙂
womens have newer been allowed to compete in nordic compination in os.
Wow
This is soooooo 6 hours ago
There will be no winter games in 2032 🤣
No mention of Michael Phelps in lots of medal category is stupid
There isn’t a Winter Olympics in 2032
Assuming you don't Quit on your team
Swimmers who have more fat more floats, skate figure changed rule no longer accept flip.
I think gymnastics beam and floor should change rules too, they need to land once.
They can’t make up balance after twice jumping land.
Man they must be bummed that Vox beat them lol
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please no facecam of the host
Farther or fUrther?
So you injured your left arm trying a jump? ;)
Who is she
I stayed because of the excessively patriotic opening
US , not americans, thanks... Stop refering to your country as if it represents the whole continent.
Okay so nobody thinks she looks like Britney Spears
How can ski jumping be as safe as curling. I'm sure having your face sandpapered by snow pass you at nearly 100 km/h doesn't feel great.
RIGHT?!? WTF was that comment. I could maybe get behind if they said something like hockey, snowboarding, etc, but curling?? No, I find that completely insulting and I don't even ski jump.
laughing in german
Why's she talking like William Shatner tho🙃
They should just add wing suits
Hell yeah!
comment
Uh they just disqualified some women … in this sport
No. It IS NOT as SAFE as curling!
I know right?!? WTF was that comment?
You don't know wtf is going on you're just an analyst not an athlete block me please so I don't waste my time doing it
can she stop adding her remarks after every other sentence. So annoying