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  • Poor maintenance and hard use probably contributed to this overly worn beater bar housing. The question remains, can I fix it? It was severely rusted together and took a long time, and lots of heat, to get it apart, but it finally did. Thanks for coming along on this journey to save this spreader.
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  • @TrikeRoadPoet
    @TrikeRoadPoet 3 місяці тому +1

    You have been an amazing teacher, making the carriage trade come alive for us. Many thanks for teaching us history, woodworking and patience. You have taught me to be a better woodworker, and it shows in my work!

  • @oc2phish07
    @oc2phish07 6 місяців тому +99

    I love the way you turn and talk to us through the camera, Dave. It makes me feel as if I really am right there in person watching you. Great project and terrific presentation. You really are 'The Man'.

    • @noelhall945
      @noelhall945 6 місяців тому +10

      Fabulous - we are all engaged.

  • @markmartin9671
    @markmartin9671 6 місяців тому +37

    I don't believe I have ever looked forward to one of your projects as much as this spreader. What a great project to save and it is in the right hands. Thank you for your efforts in this great video project.

  • @lifefromscratch2818
    @lifefromscratch2818 6 місяців тому +60

    I think a lot of people wouldn't understand, but when you love restoring stuff like this, the process of busting apart and old seized up mess is actually quite enjoyable.

    • @lesosborne9724
      @lesosborne9724 6 місяців тому +8

      Absolutely !

    • @maggs131
      @maggs131 6 місяців тому +4

      Oh yes definitely. Every piece you break free is a victory

  • @EmilyGOODEN0UGH
    @EmilyGOODEN0UGH 6 місяців тому +5

    I am in complete awe of your level of patience.

  • @cowdoc123
    @cowdoc123 6 місяців тому +22

    I keep remembering something my Dad told me when I was a kid… “A manure spreader is the one piece of equipment that the manufacturer will never stand behind.” 😆

    • @danielbutler578
      @danielbutler578 5 місяців тому +1

      But there are a lot of people who should be made to ride in one until they get spread on a field.

  • @jlconway
    @jlconway 6 місяців тому +31

    Another episode of "this is over a hundred years old and it is absolutely hammered but I'm gonna fix it anyway" sir you never cease to impress. As for the worn-through metal I would imagine you're either gonna end up welding it up and turning a new bushing, or building a mold around it, casting new metal into it, and machining it. One way or the other, a lot of work. I hope we get to watch, whatever you decide.

  • @Rickmakes
    @Rickmakes 6 місяців тому +29

    Maybe this could turn into a collaboration. This seems right up the alley for Keith Rucker of the Vintage Machinery channel. He seems to know these types materials well and how to repair them. It would be cool to see him repair this on his channel and it could bring new viewers to your channel.

    • @user-dn4iv2ne6r
      @user-dn4iv2ne6r 6 місяців тому +8

      Yeah, I think that would be a great crossover. Not that you can't do it, Dave, but it is so much like Keith does.

    • @KeeferT
      @KeeferT 6 місяців тому +7

      I’ve watched Keith do work for several UA-cam channels. He knows his stuff for sure.

    • @rlewis1946
      @rlewis1946 6 місяців тому +4

      As soon as I saw that severely worn bushing and deeply worn cast iron frame, I thought, a collaboration! With whom? Keith Rucker immediately came to mind. So the three of us must be thinking along the same lines!
      Dave, I hope you will consider our ideas.
      Best wishes to all for the New Year!
      Roy Lewis
      Buffalo, NY 🇺🇸

    • @613kc
      @613kc 6 місяців тому +4

      Your Spot on!

    • @timincam
      @timincam 6 місяців тому +3

      Agreed, Keith could help

  • @rwburke8551
    @rwburke8551 6 місяців тому +4

    None of the machinery manufacturers stood behind their manure spreader.😂 Great show thought you could use a laugh. Big Fan.

  • @groundspeed3954
    @groundspeed3954 6 місяців тому +29

    Dave: I'm thinking your channel's tagline should be "Success comes to those who persevere." I look forward to your videos. I respect your commitment to restoring horse-drawn equipment and the care you take to catalogue how the work is done. Blessing for you in the new year.

  • @austinwagoncompany
    @austinwagoncompany 6 місяців тому +3

    It's times like these that I wish my home machine shop was set up because I'd fix you up some new bushings for free for the years of content that you've given us.

  • @mitchilito99
    @mitchilito99 6 місяців тому +5

    It occurred to me that every single person involved in the design and manufacture of this old machine is long gone! I'm going to really enjoy this restoration, Dave.

  • @krandall5285
    @krandall5285 6 місяців тому +3

    Now THAT is wallered out, holy cow. My suggestion, try and get the attention of Keith Rucker and Clark Easterling. UA-cam collaberations tend to be good for all channels involved. Braze up and re-machine the big casting, get Keith and Clark to pattern, cast and machine the inserts. This is right up their alley.

  • @markdavich5829
    @markdavich5829 6 місяців тому +16

    Two people come to mind right off the bat - Keith Rucker Vitagemachinery and Windy Hill Foundry - That is, if you're not planning on repairing/recasting/replacing/machining the worn gears and other cast iron parts yourself. It would make for great content across all three channels and give all involved an opportunity to soak up some new subscriptions via individual channel viewers too.

    • @horatiohornblower868
      @horatiohornblower868 6 місяців тому

      I think neither KR nor WHF do cast steel and that bushing is cast steel.

    • @petert3355
      @petert3355 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@horatiohornblower868
      I don't think the bushing is the problem. Basically it's replacement time for that bit.
      The frame though is a different story.
      Going the repair route is definitely Keith's ballpark, braising it maybe.
      If it's time to replace the frame though, and it may be given the extent of that wear groove, Windy Hill is the guy to talk to.

    • @waynespyker5731
      @waynespyker5731 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@petert3355 If gears sets are used pitch diameter requirements will be violated ff the existing bracket is used as a foundry pattern.

  • @gordbaker896
    @gordbaker896 6 місяців тому +20

    A good name for this Honey Wagon would be Humpty Dumpty. So many pieces that only Dave could put back together again. I think you would benefit from using an Air Chisel and a set of deep Impact sockets that fit square nuts

    • @613kc
      @613kc 6 місяців тому +3

      Blacksmith bolt sells the sockets.

    • @chuckthebull
      @chuckthebull 6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I don't know i think his slow and steady heat and hand wins the race instead of snapping things off.. and i still enjoy watching him wrestling off stubborn irons ...

    • @jeffwisemiller3590
      @jeffwisemiller3590 6 місяців тому

      Can't fight rust when you're liquid!
      @@chuckthebull

  • @marcdebow4055
    @marcdebow4055 6 місяців тому +15

    When you started dismantling I gave you two chances of getting the gears off...slim and NONE. Great patience and persistance.

    • @brucemeller2794
      @brucemeller2794 6 місяців тому +5

      My thoughts exactly. Buckley’s and none! Glad to see that Buckley won through patience & perseverance.

    • @chuckthebull
      @chuckthebull 6 місяців тому +3

      I have watched him do it so many times i had a bit of confidence.

  • @billtodd6509
    @billtodd6509 6 місяців тому +2

    Isnt it amazing how those set screws came right out after more than 100 years. We love your videos. I worked for my great grandads brother in his blacksmith shop holding peopls teams while they got shod by him during my summers in Pennsylvania. He was old timey(made most of his own shoes and many different irons for the farmers around here) Thanks for the memories. Bill

  • @neilmackinnon3371
    @neilmackinnon3371 6 місяців тому +1

    There's a whole life of hard work evidenced just in those few components.

  • @CC-hl5zj
    @CC-hl5zj 6 місяців тому +2

    I can smell that BLASTER burning all the way down here in the Ozarks!!!

  • @user-cq2wk2qo4y
    @user-cq2wk2qo4y 6 місяців тому +3

    "Is it Junk?" - Well, to most people it probably is. But I can't imagine a mechanical device that you can't fix. If all else fails, I can see you blacksmithing something, then turning it in the lathe, and.. "Good as new." 🙂

  • @robhawthorne6892
    @robhawthorne6892 6 місяців тому +2

    Looking like Keith Rucker may have some parts to make for you.. this is right up his alley..

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 6 місяців тому +3

    Starting out good with lots of things to redo. Looking forward to a fun trip Dave. Stay safe and have fun while you work. Fred.

  • @lesosborne9724
    @lesosborne9724 6 місяців тому +24

    Man every since I was a kid in the 60’s and use to see this run down wagon in a shed, I’ve always wanted to do this kind of stuff but didn’t know where or who for help or guidance. I see your daughter getting involved with this project. Keep up the outstanding work sir!

  • @paulstanding7267
    @paulstanding7267 6 місяців тому +2

    A lot of wearing on the bushing anyone else would be a nightmare but for you Dave it is child’s play 😀 The journey begins. 😀👍👍👍

  • @robertcannell9865
    @robertcannell9865 6 місяців тому +61

    Dave, check out Josh Topper. I believe he's in Minnesota. He could either braze and rebore the bushing, or turn new one. Yes, Kurt's at CEE, but he's in Australia. Keith Rucker, too. Or Windy Hill Foundry to cast new parts. Love watching! It will all go back together. We know you can do it.

    • @natwooding9394
      @natwooding9394 6 місяців тому +24

      For those who watch CEE, I love to hear Curtis show a video of a spreader and show what the part does. Keith Rucker could certainly turn and bore a new one.

    • @fulf
      @fulf 6 місяців тому +10

      I am for sure they could help. I would probably (i not a machinist just do some machining for my self and not so god at it) bore out the hole and make a new insert.
      The bushing i would probable make out of bronze with a grease fitting.

    • @butter262
      @butter262 6 місяців тому +11

      Oddly you watch the same channels that I do.

    • @Timberns
      @Timberns 6 місяців тому

      @@butter262apparently we all do

    • @Renville80
      @Renville80 6 місяців тому +6

      Yah, Kurt would have the skills to get it fixed up right, but he being in Oz and the part not being off a big mining rig... Then 'my mechanics' popped into my mind but he's over in Switzerland... still, I definitely agree that Dave should seek out one of the US-based machinists that have YT channels for a collaboration.

  • @docokd7oco443
    @docokd7oco443 6 місяців тому +2

    My dad used to say, 'don't force it, get a bigger hammer!' That worn bushing is ez pz, if you have a lathe and mill. Not a problem...

  • @SODAK2276
    @SODAK2276 6 місяців тому +12

    This is going to be one of the best builds. Can't wait to see it rise again.

  • @doncc6080
    @doncc6080 6 місяців тому +11

    Happy New Year!!!! Dave and Diane. As a retired industrial mechanic one thing to do on shafts.
    After removing the set screw take a flat punch and flatten the indent on the shaft. They come apart
    much easier. God bless you and the family.

  • @JAdams-jx5ek
    @JAdams-jx5ek 6 місяців тому +1

    Wow that is a lot of wear.
    Thank you for the video.

  • @timothysmith5769
    @timothysmith5769 6 місяців тому +2

    Well, with all due respect to your great library of skills, I would suggest, at the very least, you make a consultation with another well-respected tradesman - a machinist! Keith Rucker (another famous UA-camr comes immediately to mind). There are many ways to repair that but, properly repaired (and I mean to a degree that the machine could once again be a dependable working piece of equipment) will require a very skilled and experienced set of hands. Seeing you in cahoots with Keith Rucker would be a real treat.

  • @user-ys3dh5gl3o
    @user-ys3dh5gl3o 6 місяців тому +4

    Dave, I can literally smell the PB Blaster and burnt rusty smell of the metal. Awesome stuff !! Thanks.

  • @jimlong527
    @jimlong527 6 місяців тому +21

    Well Dave you have proven to be a woodworker, carpenter, blacksmith, welder and more now we will see you as a machinist.

    • @glencrandall7051
      @glencrandall7051 6 місяців тому +7

      Don't forget Archeologist. 🙂🙂

    • @jimlong527
      @jimlong527 6 місяців тому +5

      @@glencrandall7051 You are so correct…what an interesting artist. Also forgot a seamstress as well.

  • @edhondo4447
    @edhondo4447 6 місяців тому +4

    i'm 71 and when i think about starting a new project i consider if i'm trying to bite off more than i can chew . if you get this one completed it will be a life time achievement . make sure you sign it so people will know who resurrected this spreader another 100 years from now . i hope to see it finished .. good video

    • @chuckthebull
      @chuckthebull 6 місяців тому +3

      At 66 now i have to remember i'm not 20 and full of piss and vinegar anymore and throttle back my desire to jump in and take on another project ..i already have a boat load ..

  • @bruceanderson9461
    @bruceanderson9461 6 місяців тому +2

    In the process of taking apart a 1929 Dunbar popcorn wagon on a 1929 Chev 1 1/2 ton truck. Love to see your patience in removing those shafts. As an amateur machinist and a consumer of a lot of UA-cam I would have the frame brazed and machined and a new bushing machined out of steel. The sprocket I would just leave as it will function just find as the only thing it will probably significantly spread going forward is smiles. Great project!

  • @bgp19611
    @bgp19611 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank God for heat and PB Blaster!

  • @dalevalentine1721
    @dalevalentine1721 6 місяців тому +5

    That bushing makes me think of the kind of work that Kurtis @CuttingEdgeEngineering does, but on a bit smaller scale. Fill it with good welding rod and bore it back out to size.

  • @AdelinoGambiarras
    @AdelinoGambiarras 6 місяців тому +2

    You might want to ask ho can cast that buching, for shore the hole wagon will be a challenge.
    Happy new year everyone 🎉

  • @maksmaso4741
    @maksmaso4741 6 місяців тому +1

    this will be really great challenge, but we all are sure, your gonna make it!

  • @jonmaybriar6714
    @jonmaybriar6714 6 місяців тому +2

    There is another UA-camr that makes videos. His channel name is My Mechanic. He restores/ repairs old items back to working condition. If a part is unfixable, he says “I’ll make a new one”. He has a metal lathe along with the knowledge to literally make anything. Now here’s the fun part. Other UA-camrs will send him parts to fix. And he does but then he makes a video out of it. The challenge is distance and timeline. He’s located in Switzerland. But FedEx/UPS takes care of that problem. Something to consider and you’ll enjoy researching his work on his channel in all of your spare time. lol. Good luck and can’t wait until Friday.

  • @josephsarver178
    @josephsarver178 6 місяців тому +1

    Clark at Windy Hill Foundry may be able to cast new parts for you. I watch his channel on UA-cam and he does a lot of off parts. Love what you do and thanks for bringing us along for the journey!

    • @thisnicklldo
      @thisnicklldo 6 місяців тому

      There's a few people suggesting WHF. So far as I know they only go as far as cast iron, not cast steel. Maybe they can do it, or maybe they could if asked. Maybe the part would work in cast iron, though it takes quite a beating in use, but perhaps it will never be used to spread more than a token demonstration amount of stuff after restoration. Seems to me, if he can repair the bracket, it would be a better option. The bush is less of an issue, make a new one from whatever is to hand, bronze would work I guess for the amount of use it will ever get, or even just mild steel.

  • @phils6122
    @phils6122 6 місяців тому +1

    Really looking forward to this series. Complex mechanics there. My suggestion is chat to Keith Rucker who runs a channel on vintage machinery restoration on UA-cam!

  • @kr2sell528
    @kr2sell528 6 місяців тому +15

    You've done more with less. Just because it was cast steel doesn't mean it has to be. You can turn a new bushing, and if you want machine/grind the rounds and tapers and maybe sand blast to roughen it up a little....or not. Put a half round in the casting where it's worn and braze it. I couldn't make it look good, but I'm confident you can. Thanks for showing us all the hard work. It will be one of the nicest manure spreaders I've seen once it's done.

  • @bruceyoung1343
    @bruceyoung1343 6 місяців тому +2

    PB BLASTER is your friend. I used it rebuilding a automotive engine. Works great. I’m so interested on the mechanics of that machine. Look forward to ALL your videos. 🎉 HAPPY NEW YEAR 🎆

  • @sterff8990
    @sterff8990 6 місяців тому +7

    I’d say that spreader has hauled a load or two in its day. Looking forward to the repairs on the casting!

  • @jeffclark2725
    @jeffclark2725 6 місяців тому +4

    Thats gonna be a nice machine again, Thanks for bringing us along on the rebuild

  • @bamboozler8459
    @bamboozler8459 6 місяців тому +1

    I laughed when I saw the brass punch with the Acme threads. I have a couple, old gate valve stems!

  • @trottermalone379
    @trottermalone379 6 місяців тому +5

    Dave, I would think twice before attempting to fill that void by welding with either brass (i.e. oxy/acetylene) or stainless steel (electric arch), unless you happen to know a magician welder. Even if the void is successfully filled, the base material is so thin where it’s worm that it would almost certainly crack post welding, no matter how slowly it is cooled (rule of thumb is to never try to fill a void that is deeper than the base material…). The good news is that the damage is in a low (mechanical) stress location. Additionally, the load case is compressive. All that is needed to effect a repair is the filling of the void to support the bushing (which is seeing the higher load) as well as provide an original appearance. To that end, I suggest babbitt might be the material to use as a filler. Babbitt and cast iron have a long and successful relationship going back to the earliest days of the industrial revolution. It would be a simple matter to machine a plug to fill the bushing bore, and pour the worn out void. Or even fill the entire bushing bore and worn void and machine to whatever size you like. Pre and post stress relieving a babbitt repair is not necessary as it would be with a weld. There is a bit of craft associated with pouring babbitt, but it’s much less challenging than welding old dirty corroded cast iron. Babbitt is getting difficult to find. Let me know if you need help. Cheers!

  • @Dysiode
    @Dysiode 6 місяців тому +1

    I feel like this project calls for a dead-blow hammer! My hands hurt just watching all the hammering you had to do!

    • @gonesideways6621
      @gonesideways6621 4 місяці тому

      Or buy a pneumatic air hammer they make then in different sizes auto mechanics use them to free up rusted parts.

  • @DavidSmith-zr3nd
    @DavidSmith-zr3nd 6 місяців тому +2

    One of the benefits of a smart phone is that anytime I disassemble something I'm not familiar with, I take lots of pictures.

  • @westhighlandsshop
    @westhighlandsshop 6 місяців тому +1

    awesome to watch this process. Can't wait to see this piece of equipment slinging poop! I know he will get it working soon enough.

  • @arlenbenard7294
    @arlenbenard7294 6 місяців тому +2

    when I was a youngling my dad trained me on his later model spreader. all metal, grease fittings at all critical points. it was wheel driven, dont know the make. I qualified expert on loading and unloading ! when you finish with the repairs I'll be honored to help fill it for testing purposes

  • @billk8780
    @billk8780 6 місяців тому +2

    Hi Dave,
    Perhaps you might consider using a high nickel rod to build up that bushing and even the frame. The high nickel would suck up lots of carbon with a low tendency for cracking. As you well know, high preheats and multiple, small passes are better.
    All the best in 2024 to you and Diane!

  • @brentbrown8393
    @brentbrown8393 6 місяців тому +1

    Thats what's so great about metal, in the right hands, it can be repaired and made usable again. I have no doubts you will repair the boss and the bushing.

  • @Tomhohenadel
    @Tomhohenadel 6 місяців тому +13

    Always interesting and educational watching your videos. Great history lesson

  • @rayc.1396
    @rayc.1396 6 місяців тому +16

    Well, I have a suggestion or two. First, brass drifts are great, but for some reason aluminum seems to work better as a drift, don't know why, just that it does, try inch and a half square whatever length you like. Second, the taper bushing is pretty badly worn inside and out, the inside is easy put a copper bar of the appropriate size in the hole and weld around it to fill what you want. The out side is just the opposite,a copper sleeve and weld fill it up. Lathe will finish it up nicely. The the large part will work the same way but you will need to devise a method for boring it out of find a lathe with a large swing to bore it out with. Good luck and I'll keep watching. HAPPY NEW YEAR!

    • @chuckthebull
      @chuckthebull 6 місяців тому +4

      Great suggestions on the copper...a vertical mill would make quick work of it after its welded. I have one that could do it and a lathe so i would do a brass insert. but building up the frame will take some finesse...

    • @clarencegreen3071
      @clarencegreen3071 6 місяців тому +3

      About the drift: It's all in the weight (mass) of the drift vs. the weight of the hammer. The best situation is to use a heavy hammer and a light drift. Worst is a light hammer and a heavy drift. The relative size of the hammer and drift makes a big difference. A light hammer swung fast is not the same as a heavy hammer swung more slowly.
      It concerns the amount of energy/momentum transferred from the hammer to the drift then to the workpiece. Small hammer and big drift = most (or a lot) of the energy is absorbed by the drift. Big hammer and light drift works better.
      Another example: drive a heavy spoke into a hub. Best is to use a heavy hammer even if you can't swing it as fast. With small hammer and heavy spoke, you wind up beating the crap out of the spoke without imparting a lot of forward motion to it.
      Sometimes I wince when I see Dave driving a spoke with too small a hammer. I want to tell him . . . Use a bigger hammer! But, he's been driving spokes a long time so I tend to keep my well-intentioned advice to myself. However, I've been doing physics and swinging hammers considerably longer than he has, so this time, finally, I speak up. I have the greatest respect for Dave, obviously, or I wouldn't be here. -Old physicist

  • @465maltbie
    @465maltbie 6 місяців тому +1

    That is a grand canyon kind of worn casting...thanks for sharing. Charles

  • @jackbrown7895
    @jackbrown7895 5 місяців тому

    Great video!!! I hope you continue to record more of the same. I like to see history brought back to life. Thanks….

  • @rollieevans6292
    @rollieevans6292 6 місяців тому +4

    Those ground driven spreaders bring back bad memories. Working on a dairy farm in the sixties, the apron chain would always break on a Sunday morning or when you would be in a hurry. It's no fun forking off the manure.

  • @superdave380
    @superdave380 6 місяців тому +2

    Hi Dave. Back when I was a welder in 1997, I was able to weld cast iron like bracket that with lots of preheat and 99% nickel electrode. I would have been able to weld up the worn areas, which then could have been machined back into shape.
    I am not inclined to assume that the bushing would have been cast steel vs cast iron. Cast iron has the inherent lubricity of the free graphite in the iron matrix, making it a better choice for a bushing. A foundry could duplicate that bushing.

  • @johnberryhill8106
    @johnberryhill8106 6 місяців тому +3

    Dave, I've got faith (and money) on You !
    You are a genius when you have a small problem as such.
    Love your Show !
    Howdy from Branson Missouri !

  • @Cheggley45
    @Cheggley45 6 місяців тому +1

    Man oh man does this dismantling take the patience of Job! I had one of these derelict farm equipment pieces that I bought and moved to the side of my front driveway 28 years ago. I sold it when I moved but I was just thinking perhaps I should have kept so some of the parts could have been used for this project as it was in quasi working order. I love these old pieces. As a kid my dad drove a team of horses for all their farm work implements. I also had a dump rake and a 56’ Willys 4wd pickup all original. Should could kept them in retrospect. Love these videos.

  • @markploof
    @markploof 6 місяців тому +2

    Dave, I’m sure you know the direction you’re going to fix the bushing. A new bushing needs to be turned on a lathe, meaning you could make a few bushings for nos, lol. On the steel cast, weld in the worn out material and bore it out with whatever machine you have access to.

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus 6 місяців тому +8

    The frame can easily be welded but that bushing is going to need to be machined bc if you try to weld it the new weld material will be harder than the shaft that runs through it and it will wear the shaft down. I'd say get some Brass or Bronze and chuck it up in your lathe and make some new ones as it's a fairly rudimentary part and not difficult to make. 👍👍

  • @billflynn818
    @billflynn818 6 місяців тому +2

    Great video, as usual. I enjoy your videos immensely. I find them very relaxing and look forward to your bi-weekly videos. Thank you for taking the time to make and share them.

  • @jeffreymartin1892
    @jeffreymartin1892 6 місяців тому +2

    Since you asked, I think I would repair the housing and machine a new bushing to fit that. I enjoy your videos.

  • @georgerrust4087
    @georgerrust4087 6 місяців тому +2

    Good job on a difficult puzzle, Happy New Year....

  • @EdOfTheNorth
    @EdOfTheNorth 6 місяців тому +1

    I'd put the old bushing into the housing, back it with a sand box and pour a filler, perhaps silica bronze as you would a babbit bearing and redrill the center hole or just use a dowel of hardwood as a filler and then redrill after the pour. It will never see the use it used to see and as a museum piece everything remains operable and original. One could turn the old bushing 90 degrees to reduce pressure on the filler when in operation but that would mean moving the tab. Thanks for the videos and may God bless you and yours.

  • @martinroberts4365
    @martinroberts4365 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for showing us this interesting project. Regarding repairs/restorations, perhaps you only need to restore it to the standard where its function can be demonstrated now and again? Can't think this muck spreader will be put to work again like it was originally intended to do?

  • @rleeAZ
    @rleeAZ 6 місяців тому +1

    Funny how the years weld stuff together. Also, that spreader worked for years as it ate thru that bushing, and kept working and working and working.

  • @patrickcolahan7499
    @patrickcolahan7499 6 місяців тому +1

    If it were me, I would weld up the frame and bore the hole for the bushing. I would make a new bushing, either whole or you could bore out the bushing, retaining the collar and the lug and then insert a new bushing into the collar, welding or sweating it into place. This would retain the majority of the original iron and repair the damage.
    Fun to watch the removal. I use to use the same technique for taking apart old iron, but have shifted from a hammer to a pneumatic hammer. Places more impacts per minute than I am capable of and makes life much easier. You can also use an electric hammer. I have made steel and bronze bits for different applications.
    Thanks for sharing and a Very Happy New Year to you and the family.

  • @MrKingdavis13
    @MrKingdavis13 6 місяців тому +4

    I would try welding the bore back to round and drilling it back out it it was mine, cast can be tricky to keep from cracking when it cools down so you would have to get the whole piece good and hot while the weld is happening then bury it in sand to let it cool down slowly or something. The other option is to braise it back to round which is safer because it doesn't have to be as hot and has the benefit of being flexible after the repair and much less prone to cracking and will ever rust again. Either way I am sure you will be able to fix it.

  • @tpniefer
    @tpniefer 6 місяців тому +13

    Hi, Dave. I just had a moment of inspiration. When the manure spreader is fully rebuilt you could ship it of to Washington. There is probably a lot of work for it there.🤣 Now on a more serious note, I'm finding this project gets more interesting with every video. Thanks for another fine video.

    • @chuckthebull
      @chuckthebull 6 місяців тому

      Lots of bovine excrement in DC to shovel..

  • @dans_Learning_Curve
    @dans_Learning_Curve 6 місяців тому +2

    At first I thought this was too big of a project.
    Looking forward to watch your progress!!

  • @user-ot7ec4uc3g
    @user-ot7ec4uc3g 6 місяців тому +5

    You have built wagons, carriages, even a snow conversion , what makes this totality different is the mechanical engineering of the spreader and how it works, which makes this "very interesting" !!!

  • @RaymondWKing-dn8wf
    @RaymondWKing-dn8wf 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi Dave, 3 ways that I can see to remake the Insert,
    1, Building up with Welding Rod and milling With a Lathe and a Mill,
    2, Milling a solid bar with a Lathe and a Mill,
    3, Sand Casting Steel, I'm watching to see how you do it, I may learn something

  • @yolandejuvien5101
    @yolandejuvien5101 6 місяців тому +3

    Merci pour tout ce que vous faites; et meilleurs vœux pour 2024 continuer à nous divertir avec vos si belles réalisations. Un fan Normand.

  • @brianmros4844
    @brianmros4844 6 місяців тому +31

    Hi Dave, and Diane, Happy New year! Onto another year of great videos. The mechanism of this spreader is so interesting. It will be nice to see it in use when you are finished. Thank you for sharing, and take care.

    • @huntz3215
      @huntz3215 6 місяців тому +3

      Could be a parade float for politicians, only those who know will get it's meaning.

    • @brianmros4844
      @brianmros4844 6 місяців тому +2

      @@huntz3215 It could be, but I wonder if the spreader bed could hold enough.

  • @stephenrice4554
    @stephenrice4554 6 місяців тому +2

    Happy New year Dave , Diane and the geranium . I don't know , I think your professional name ought to be Percy Vere . This new project is becoming more interesting as time goes by . Nice 👍🇬🇧

  • @charityjay
    @charityjay 6 місяців тому +5

    I love the analytic way you go through things, always a pleasure to watch your videos.. HNY

  • @tempus_fugit7366
    @tempus_fugit7366 6 місяців тому +5

    I'm glad to see this machine in such good hands. Aside from the decay of abandonment, I must say, I'm very disappointed to see the level of neglectful wear that this has. I thought that from back in the days when these were very expensive investments, it would have been better cared for. Just the same, I'm glad to watch its restoration in such good hands.

    • @chuckthebull
      @chuckthebull 6 місяців тому +2

      yeah a little squirt of oil or grease would have been preventative but who knows the story..lots of people neglect their cars etc till they are falling apart today too.. but today is a very throw out society and back then you are right it seemed they took more effort to preserve and maintain

    • @tempus_fugit7366
      @tempus_fugit7366 6 місяців тому +2

      @chuckthebull exactly my thoughts! Our disposable society didn't exist then. That's why they had every sort of specialist repair person you could think of back then because it was far cheaper to repair than to replace. That said, if the manufacturer had completely abandoned the fabrication of replacement parts after a new model was released, then I could see having no choice but running it until it was completely worn out. But, as you said, any average person should understand simple oiling and greasing. Also, like you said, we can't see into the past and have no idea what actually happened for this to end up the way it did. I'm just glad it's getting a second chance.

  • @bgoat1380
    @bgoat1380 6 місяців тому +1

    looks like you will have to weld it up and re bore it and as far as the bushing you can do a lost wax casting and reshape the main hole in the cast and repour it and with a little machine work it would be as good as new. i do really enjoy your work you sir are a master of your craft.

  • @Orxenhorf
    @Orxenhorf 6 місяців тому +10

    I don't know if any of them are close by (relatively) but it would be neat to get in touch with one of the machinist/machine tool restoration UA-cam channels for a collaboration episode. It wouldn't take much for one of them to bore out and sleeve the frame part, and making an entirely new insert would be almost trivial to a decently equipped shop.

  • @glencrandall7051
    @glencrandall7051 6 місяців тому +5

    Surgery is open. Parts coming off and damage exposed. Some very interesting wear emerging. I wouldn't have thought so in the beginning but now I think you are going to save this piece of machinery. Happy New Year. I wish you and yours a great 2024.🙂🙂

  • @FarmsteadForge
    @FarmsteadForge 6 місяців тому +2

    I'm excited to see how you go about fixing this! I know you'll figure something out and it'll come out great!

  • @Reziac
    @Reziac 6 місяців тому +5

    That worn-out bushing and mount, actually struck me as a positive sign that restoring this is worth the effort. Machinery doesn't get that worn out without being really useful, and better than the alternatives.
    Might be useful to show us how you keep track of all the pieces that come off, so you can put them back in the right order.

    • @chuckthebull
      @chuckthebull 6 місяців тому +5

      That's why i photograph and video some of my work too..just to have a record to look back on

  • @stevedunford7632
    @stevedunford7632 6 місяців тому +7

    That removable bushing will, I believe, make it easier to repair bearing in mind you only need to make this functional rather than it being put to daily use. Turn up a new bushing and perhaps braze the main housing to recover the major wear. I think that 'lump' on the OD of the bushing is to allow for the side frame and shaft to not be in true 90 degree alignment.

    • @chuckthebull
      @chuckthebull 6 місяців тому +3

      Right! it can flex like a universal joint but still stay laterally snug.. they had been very clever back when.

  • @michael-dm2bv
    @michael-dm2bv 6 місяців тому +1

    Abom.❤ A machinist can resolve that wear in a heartbeat.❤

  • @edwardlittle776
    @edwardlittle776 6 місяців тому +14

    Happy new year Dave and Miss Diane, look forward to more videos in 2024. I enjoy the massaging of the parts being disassemble, taking care that nothing is destroyed in the process, (finesse not force).

  • @user-rw1vg2ne2k
    @user-rw1vg2ne2k 6 місяців тому

    Ok here we go - Lots of fun watching in future.

  • @kelleyheard5790
    @kelleyheard5790 6 місяців тому +1

    I can't wait to see what you do with it.

  • @joshua43214
    @joshua43214 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks!
    I think that idler has an oil hole in it on its rolling face.
    You might be able to cut that bushing out an old crank shaft. I'd prolly bore out the frame and plug it with a piece of continuous cast (be a bit expensive though).

  • @combatmedic1980
    @combatmedic1980 6 місяців тому +1

    Dave, if your not worried about being 100% correct, you can weld the main frame and build it up and fun a drill bit or a reamer thru it, and you could use some Delrin and make the bushing on your lathe.

  • @HazItMade
    @HazItMade 6 місяців тому +2

    Dave, I respectfully submit that if you look at the "wear" on the insert, the outside is extremely thin and the inside is quite a bit more substantial. My belief (from here) is that someone tried to service/repair something and then they couldn't get it back together, they drilled a new hole, off center and not parallel to the existing hole. I'm wondering if it doesn't need to be filled is with some new weld and "aged" using your vinegar & iron chips method.
    Regardless, it looks like it's going to be a very interesting puzzle!

  • @ahvavee
    @ahvavee 6 місяців тому

    Only thing I can tell you is that you got this. Just like you always have. 👍💪

  • @joeromanak8797
    @joeromanak8797 6 місяців тому +1

    It seems to me that turning a new piece to replace the insert would be the best approach to get back into spec. Dave has a metal lathe and that part is not too complicated. Maybe do a set up to bore out the large casting (to whatever extent is possible) and then turn the od of the insert to suit. Also bore the id of the insert to match the beater shaft. I have no doubt it will get a reliable fix one way or another; it’s the Engle way! Good luck. 🥸👍👀✅❗️

  • @Johnp4639
    @Johnp4639 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi Dave I have recently found your channel (2 weeks ago) I can’t stop watching your older videos. I’m really looking forward to following your projects in the future.

  • @BillOwens-vt2wi
    @BillOwens-vt2wi 6 місяців тому +5

    Replacement parts may be around. Welding would take time but is possible repairs will be fun. It will look great when finished. Great job.

  • @ronboe6325
    @ronboe6325 6 місяців тому +2

    On that very worn part: As a viewer I'm thinking "pfft, you got this!" - being a victim or your own success, we pretty much now expect you to perform miracles on iron. Which is a bit unfair; so I'm very keen on seeing how this turns out and I wish you luck. My only advise being "talk to the Engels Coach guy, he'll know what to try". :^). So talk to yourself.

  • @jwstanley2645
    @jwstanley2645 6 місяців тому +1

    Appreciate you sharing.

  • @olivier2553
    @olivier2553 6 місяців тому +1

    Happy New Year. My immediate thought is that you could try to consult with Keith Rucker, he restores a lot of old machines (steam locomotives as well as lathe, mills, etc.)