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  • Cost effectiveness and worth are not even close to the same! These spokes were definitely not cost effective, but to my value system they were worth it because I wanted the satisfaction of making everything myself. Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles is not always about money. Thanks for coming along!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 486

  • @tomhysell596
    @tomhysell596 3 місяці тому +118

    I love to see someone that takes pride in the work they do and is willing to take time to do it their way.

  • @paulchapin4472
    @paulchapin4472 3 місяці тому +82

    Pride in knowing you did it yourself is priceless. I love watching you create. Thanks, Dave.

  • @alasdairhamilton1574
    @alasdairhamilton1574 3 місяці тому +96

    At the end of the day the only thing that matters is what gives you the satisfaction in a good job done the way you want. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @vbertrand
    @vbertrand 3 місяці тому +48

    When the Master says : "It's worth it", then it IS worth it!

  • @shrumittofarmer439
    @shrumittofarmer439 3 місяці тому +10

    I have said it.before and I will say it again, for multiple reasons, you are a treasure sir.

  • @tanyav7888
    @tanyav7888 3 місяці тому +80

    I enjoyed coming along with you to make them!😊

  • @johnthreefifteen
    @johnthreefifteen 3 місяці тому +19

    You have the satisfaction of having the spokes you wanted, done the way you wanted, and the quality you wanted. That has no price.

  • @ljackson8220
    @ljackson8220 3 місяці тому +57

    It's yours. Do it how you want. Everything isn't about money

    • @davidchisham
      @davidchisham 3 місяці тому +3

      It’s always a great feeling to know one has made the complete project.I remember how proud of my first picnic table. First time seeing you use that duplicating lathe. Thanks a lot.

  • @burtnelson1987
    @burtnelson1987 3 місяці тому +20

    I once spent the winter months turning one hundred and twenty spindles for a porch rail. Why, because I could, and I got what I wanted completely out of scrap. It was also a great way to unwind after working all day. The satisfaction of doing it and getting a unique finished product was well worth the time.

  • @capitanschetttino8745
    @capitanschetttino8745 3 місяці тому +19

    From a financial point of view it may not be worth doing the work, but if we take it from an artistic point of view and in terms of the preservation of History and Culture, the work is priceless. Its value is incalculable.

  • @BobBlarneystone
    @BobBlarneystone 3 місяці тому +34

    Personal satisfaction is an important trait of a competent craftsman.

  • @azpcox
    @azpcox 3 місяці тому +17

    “Financially worth it? Absolutely not. Unless you factor in UA-cam views.”
    I love the engineering mindset on how to build things right. The way wheelwrights built them 70 years ago. Or even longer.
    How many wheelwrights are even left today? At least one solid one we know and appreciate!

  • @carlu-dovica
    @carlu-dovica 3 місяці тому +11

    Who needs CNC machining? I still appreciate seeing a mechanical duplicator in operation. It is an incrediblly ingeneous design that works. As most everything from previous centuries, it was the first generation product devised and perfected out of necessity. Truly magnificent!

  • @graemelliott3942
    @graemelliott3942 3 місяці тому +6

    I enjoy watching you make them! In the late 1960s as a 8 year old kid I watched an old man who worked for Disneyland make wooden spikes wheels for the various vehicles that ran up and down Main Street. He was from Blue Earth Minnesota born in the 1880s. Your videos totally remind me of the well spent time with him. Thank you!

  • @alexandrebelinge8996
    @alexandrebelinge8996 3 місяці тому +5

    I love the duplicator / copier-grinder ... Left me speechless for a minute !

    • @alfredomarotta6604
      @alfredomarotta6604 3 місяці тому +1

      I as well 👍

    • @thomasbraeking6225
      @thomasbraeking6225 3 місяці тому +2

      My first thought was "Holy crap! Is Dave going to handmake 48 spokes?!?". I had forgotten about "The Mangler" (spoke copier).
      Why do I call it "The Mangler"? Just imagine that chainsaw wheel hitting hard spot and taking a hop!

  • @davekreidenweis3126
    @davekreidenweis3126 3 місяці тому +25

    Dave, you are a great teacher, a mild-mannered gentleman, I will follow you till I die

  • @terminalpsychosis8022
    @terminalpsychosis8022 3 місяці тому +3

    So much work... that's quite the production line. They came out so good too. All them years of experience pay off.
    Thanks for watching? no, thanks for SHARING this with us. So much fun to see.

  • @josephprettyman2178
    @josephprettyman2178 3 місяці тому +17

    I watch a variety of channels,but your channel is by far my favorite.thanks.

  • @frank64409
    @frank64409 3 місяці тому +4

    Once in a while, you follow your heart! Money isn't everything. I can't believe I just said that! But it isn't. Sometimes, you just do what you like. I have done that, as have many of you. Thank you, Dave!

  • @Wheel_Horse
    @Wheel_Horse 3 місяці тому +6

    You enjoyed doing it... and we enjoyed watching you do it! I don't think we would have enjoyed watching you fill out an order form!

  • @terryrogers1025
    @terryrogers1025 3 місяці тому +2

    I do things like that day in and day out. I build miniature what ever using hand tools and scraps and discarded wood because I want, because I can, and because I enjoy it, if I were to bill out for my hours invested, the cost would be astronomical, definitely not in it for the money, so I get where that is coming from. And I loved watching the process, thanks for the update, learned something once again.

  • @andrewjones1649
    @andrewjones1649 3 місяці тому +5

    The best channel on the internet. Thanks Dave.

  • @thomasdickey356
    @thomasdickey356 3 місяці тому +3

    Your shop made equipment is always very interesting.
    Your a true craftsman!

  • @sassafrasvalley1939
    @sassafrasvalley1939 3 місяці тому +15

    Dave… the satisfaction of doing it yourself is priceless… when it’s for yourself or a loved one!

  • @jerrywatson7176
    @jerrywatson7176 3 місяці тому +1

    It was worth it and it was worth my time watching it. I have enjoyed watching your videos for a quite a few years and feel a great deal of pride in what you do and the way you do things and I am impressed with the tools that you have in your shop. You are an inspiration , KEEP IT UP.

  • @jasonwagner5571
    @jasonwagner5571 3 місяці тому +18

    Brilliant duplicator!!! So simple yet so genius.

  • @rickharper6320
    @rickharper6320 3 місяці тому +1

    Ok…..now you’re just showing off !!!!
    😆
    I doubt there are many who could make their own for such a project.
    Time consuming as it is …..
    As my dad used to say ….
    You know what you have !!!!
    Great work !!!!

  • @daniellarrivee-ic3lg
    @daniellarrivee-ic3lg 3 місяці тому +21

    Thank you Mr. and Mrs.Engel it is always a pleasure to watch you create

  • @The_Smith
    @The_Smith 3 місяці тому +2

    That duplicator is some slick! I saw it in the background when you were cutting the blanks to length and was going to ask what it was, glad I waited!

  • @nicklewis1475
    @nicklewis1475 3 місяці тому

    I made & turned a Windsor chair, because I could! Far cheaper to buy, but it makes me smile evertime I look at it. More power to you Dave 😊

  • @bigredc222
    @bigredc222 3 місяці тому +5

    I know the feeling. I've spent hours and hours fixing old things that I could have easily bought new for not much money, but I enjoy fixing things.

  • @MikeWilliams-yp9kl
    @MikeWilliams-yp9kl 3 місяці тому +3

    Hi Diane and Dave, it's always down to you, I always tell my friends the same " if it's worth it to you , THEN .that's the MOST IMPORTANT THING" . LOVE YOUR VIDEO'S AND THOUGHTS TOO ❤️ 💕 ❤

  • @garrettswoodworx1873
    @garrettswoodworx1873 3 місяці тому +4

    In a world of "one size fits all" and machinery/tools that attempt to do a number of things moderately well, the beauty and simplicity of your purpose-built machinery never ceases to make me smile, almost as much as the very justifiable pride you take in your work. As always Dave, thanks for allowing us along on your journey.

  • @thisolesignguy2733
    @thisolesignguy2733 3 місяці тому +13

    I watched a video last night of Ford's building of the Model T wheels, it was so awesome to see that they used almost the same bending machine on bending the wheel felloes as what Dave uses. It was just more factory heavy duty, but the same idea. That was so awesome!
    If you guys want to check it out, it's on Kim Smith Gallery's youtube. It's the original black & white Ford video, if you watch they have the same setup as Dave but much more heavy duty for factory use.

    • @blacksquirrel4008
      @blacksquirrel4008 3 місяці тому +3

      I guess we all got that one recommended to us. It was fascinating to see and compare the methods.

    • @retlasm
      @retlasm 3 місяці тому +3

      Funny! I watched the same video and the whole time I was thinking of Dave and how he builds wheels! Just about the same!

    • @markat9576
      @markat9576 3 місяці тому +2

      I watched the same video last night too.

    • @gordbaker896
      @gordbaker896 3 місяці тому +1

      I sent that one to Dave.

  • @davidallen803
    @davidallen803 3 місяці тому +2

    You know when you think about it, that is why we all do the things we love, because we want to. Really nice video hope the heat doesn't get to bad.

  • @pierrefouchard6593
    @pierrefouchard6593 3 місяці тому +2

    merci mille fois. Thank you so much.

  • @CharleneColvin
    @CharleneColvin 3 місяці тому +8

    Ya, it was, definitely worth it! There is no joy greater than creation. Thank-you for taking us on your journey! 👍

  • @oc2phish07
    @oc2phish07 3 місяці тому +2

    Very enjoyable video Dave. But then, ALL your videos are fantastic.

  • @errolpoxleitner7901
    @errolpoxleitner7901 3 місяці тому +2

    Good job Ben there make it the way you want it goog show.

  • @brh4115
    @brh4115 3 місяці тому +2

    Satisfaction of a job well done! Like most craft skills there is a soul soothing outcome that balances the costs.

  • @firstlast-ty4di
    @firstlast-ty4di 3 місяці тому +5

    Another intangible value of your doing this work manually is giving us an appreciation of what wheelwrights 150-200 years ago had to do.

  • @danbreyfogle8486
    @danbreyfogle8486 3 місяці тому +2

    I get what you mean in your final comment about the spokes. So many times we look at the value of time, material, and outcome and lose site of a true handmade product. And there is the pride of a God given talent being used to produce something we had a vision of. And in the end, every spoke is not exactly the same and that makes this a truly restoration. Thank you for sharing your videos, it is always a pleasure to see what comes out of your shop.

  • @TheDistur
    @TheDistur 3 місяці тому +2

    That is a nice way to use up the wood you already paid for.

  • @DelPatten-uo5ez
    @DelPatten-uo5ez 3 місяці тому +2

    I've enjoyed your content for quite a few years now although ill never build anything you build...watching you build a wagon or a hay shed or a tool is fascinating.

  • @anthonywilson4873
    @anthonywilson4873 3 місяці тому +4

    I enjoyed watching you enjoy making them. I totally get it, there is pleasure in doing it yourself.

  • @phillipduncan2497
    @phillipduncan2497 3 місяці тому

    You have to do something every minute of your life. You might as well do something you love and take pride in your work. Can't wait to see the next episode. Thank you.

  • @docholliday5439
    @docholliday5439 3 місяці тому +2

    Watching this video, "to me it was worth it!" 😊 🤠🌵🌵🌵

  • @utoddl
    @utoddl 3 місяці тому +1

    Not only the spokes and other wood and metal projects - which are worth a lot to you and us - but also the time and effort you put into crafting your videos! That's a whole 'nuther set of skills you've honed over the years, and I for one am immensely grateful that you find that worth it. Otherwise we'd never see the results of your efforts. Thanks for sharing.

  • @randallgilmore5887
    @randallgilmore5887 3 місяці тому

    I definitely understand why you did it yourself!! Thanks for showing us how you do it !! Keep up the good work!!! R and W (72 yr. old carpenter)

  • @RickTashma
    @RickTashma 3 місяці тому

    Dave... I'm stunned (but not surprised) how much work you can get done in fewer than 22 minutes! It's no wonder Rome was not built in a day; you weren't there! Best wishes to you and Diane. It's a hoot to journey along with you on the spreader resurrection. Thanks for sharing!

  • @lesahanners5057
    @lesahanners5057 3 місяці тому +3

    Beautifully done! I grew up a ranch kid myself and have had to use just such a piece of equipment. We sure could have used your help to keep things going. My dad was the ranch foreman and he couldn't keep up with the breakdowns. Ranchers son was real rough on stuff. Before he hired my dad, when something broke they just parked it in a field and bought a new one. They had a field of cars, a long line of about ten combines, another field full of every kind of tractor and other farm equipment imaginable. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. In the end the ranch failed of course, but it was years after we left. Seems the ranch was being propped up by the wife who was a doctor. When she passed it all imploded. Last I heard everything was hauled off to the scrap yard. You could have had a great ranch museum with all that stuff. ...sigh... what a waste. This is why I so respect and enjoy what you do. You are saving history.

  • @artszabo1015
    @artszabo1015 2 місяці тому

    We sure enjoyed watching you enjoy yourself. I really liked that home-made duplicator.
    Art from Ohio

  • @brianmros4844
    @brianmros4844 3 місяці тому +11

    Hi Dave, and Diane, I'm amazed how that wood can hold such a tight radius. I also have a very hard time not holding onto scrap wood. I don't remember seeing your copy jig in the past. It looks like another one of your inventions Dave. Thanks for another great video, and take care.

  • @mfreund15448
    @mfreund15448 3 місяці тому +3

    Happy Tuesday Dave!!

  • @robertrawlings
    @robertrawlings 3 місяці тому +2

    Top man you keep doing what you love doing, I make tooling at home here in England for my own use and love every minute of it .😊

  • @machinemoverman4614
    @machinemoverman4614 3 місяці тому

    Dave, there is 2 of us satisfied,,,, you and me! Great job!

  • @brianflanders5831
    @brianflanders5831 3 місяці тому +8

    Truer words were never spoken. It is yours in all respects and can never be taken away from you.

  • @JohnWhite-w6k4r
    @JohnWhite-w6k4r 3 місяці тому +1

    I enjoy watching you work, don’t stop. 21:43

  • @tonyg258
    @tonyg258 3 місяці тому

    I make lots of various things that can be bought from the hardware or other shops. But nothing bought will bring you the pride of something you made or even built yourself from scrap.
    Love your bodies and look forward to following along with each and every one of them.
    Thank you Dave and Dianne

    • @tonyg258
      @tonyg258 3 місяці тому

      Oops. That was supposed to be Videos not bodies. lol.

  • @oldspokes
    @oldspokes 3 місяці тому +2

    Knowhow and desire to do it makes it worth the effort.

  • @stevedunford7632
    @stevedunford7632 3 місяці тому +2

    I know a spook shave is a very versatile and useful tool but it is really nice to see it doing its 'real' job.

  • @apollorobb
    @apollorobb 3 місяці тому +3

    I build a lot of my own Power tools and equipment so i truly get where your coming from being able to make something the exact way you want it .

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 3 місяці тому

    Satisfaction Guaranteed AMEN!! Thanks for sharing with us Dave, saving the dollar isn't always the most gratifying way but sometimes you have to save the dollars for a customers project. Keep up the great videos and the fun you share with us. Stay safe, Fred.

  • @alfredomarotta6604
    @alfredomarotta6604 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you Dave and Diane, always a pleasure to watch your videos ..... they're always worth it. 👍👍🗽✌️

  • @kathyboyers4341
    @kathyboyers4341 3 місяці тому +3

    I undertand your point of view. I've been a hobby wood worker for over 50 years. I've taken several days to make something that would have been easier and quicker to buy. But the satisfaction of doing it yourself is worth the time and effort. Good job Mr. Engel. Bob

  • @markbrown-us4xe
    @markbrown-us4xe 3 місяці тому +1

    7th grade wood shop class.
    Learn all the tools on the tool board.
    Spoke shaver.
    It didn't get much use but nice to see it in action on a real spoke.
    Thanks.

  • @richardthornhill4630
    @richardthornhill4630 3 місяці тому +5

    Handmade reconditioned manure spreader. Satisfaction in a job well done.

  • @stevenleeper8495
    @stevenleeper8495 3 місяці тому

    Been watching for a few yrs now & that's the 1st time I saw the "duplicating machine." That is awesome (and so is all your work!)

  • @beyondmiddleagedman7240
    @beyondmiddleagedman7240 3 місяці тому +1

    That is a most crude duplicator. I LOVE it!

  • @BillOwens-vt2wi
    @BillOwens-vt2wi 3 місяці тому +2

    Not cost effective but done very nicely. It gives you what you really want and that's the way it should go. Great work it will look great. Thank you.

  • @douglasschafer6372
    @douglasschafer6372 3 місяці тому +1

    When you started out with the spoke shave, I just shook my head, then the duplicator, YES

  • @georgesherfick2444
    @georgesherfick2444 3 місяці тому +1

    You are a shining beacon of what it means to be a man in today's world. So much more than the cost of spokes. You are driven and a true creative force.

  • @arnhemseptember2009
    @arnhemseptember2009 3 місяці тому +2

    I can only fully agree with you, as I recognise that "I did it myself" feeling all to well!!

  • @tomwhelan9872
    @tomwhelan9872 3 місяці тому +2

    And I enjoyed watching you do it. As always😀

  • @williamclark6466
    @williamclark6466 3 місяці тому

    And that, in the end, is what matters... personal satisfaction...
    I enjoyed this. Thank you.

  • @Mopar46
    @Mopar46 3 місяці тому +2

    Gotta love your attitude. The satisfaction of doing the job with your own hands, is a reward
    in itself.

  • @anthonykent7983
    @anthonykent7983 3 місяці тому +6

    totally worth it ! As I enjoyed it immensely. Thanks you I never miss a video.

  • @Smokeybear020
    @Smokeybear020 3 місяці тому +3

    And... I enjoyed watching them being made to your specs !!

  • @grahammorgan9635
    @grahammorgan9635 3 місяці тому

    No one would argue with you Dave, a lovely job done well certainly with no comment from me other than of course you wanted to make them.

  • @davesimmons8640
    @davesimmons8640 3 місяці тому

    Dave - Making your spokes is much the same as my keeping diary that's handwritten with fountain pens. Would it be quicker to pound it out on a computer? Yes. But it wouldn't be nearly as satisfying, nor would it be as cathartic. I write with fountain pens because i want to.
    So, if you wanna make spokes, make spokes. There's no need to explain yourself to us, we just like watching you work and learning from your craftsmanship.
    Can't wait to see what color you're going to paint the spreader's wheels!
    Thanks for letting us following along!

  • @andrewmacomber1638
    @andrewmacomber1638 3 місяці тому +2

    There is a huge amount of satisfaction in making something versus going out and buying something. And that is priceless! Makers of all kinds know that to be true ✌🏻❤️🇺🇸🙏🏻🌎

  • @robinmartin4464
    @robinmartin4464 3 місяці тому

    Nice Video! Remember, the customer is always right, and this time you are the customer. Luck with the spreader.

  • @pauls4708
    @pauls4708 3 місяці тому +2

    you need an advancing mechanism on the spoke shaper machine kinda like a lathe. Always interesting watching a real tradesman.I love how a lot of your work is purely by eye. If a real replica is required you have to make some parts yourself

  • @Kaptain13Gonzo
    @Kaptain13Gonzo 3 місяці тому +1

    Absolutely gold. "Economics" is a very subjective thing. I fully agree with you. I just did a fence repair for a fellow I know. I hand did the repair. It would be 'cheaper' if I had just bought another panel and shimmed it in. That's what I charged him for. The hand repair, based on my time alone, would have been much more expensive. But, I preferred the job I did as it was a better repair and will last much longer. The personal satisfaction is a commodity only I can value. Just like I can buy a really cheap sweater from offshore versus a hand made wool one from a local weaver. One will be tossed within a year and the other will outlast my grandchildren. Don't be fooled by '"cheaper", it is not worth it more often than not. Excellent work and it is a reflection of you, a very good reflection. Cheers.

  • @gustavogarcia3515
    @gustavogarcia3515 3 місяці тому +2

    Absolutely agree with your values.

  • @talltimberswoodshop7552
    @talltimberswoodshop7552 3 місяці тому +1

    To us it was worth it watching you practice your trade exceedingly well. Thanks

  • @larrykbaird840
    @larrykbaird840 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s always interesting to watch a skilled craftsman at work. It is amazing at the talent you have. Keep up the good work, i enjoy watching you work !!

  • @phooesnax
    @phooesnax 3 місяці тому +1

    It was worth watching. Love that homemade copy lathe.

  • @ellisc.foleyjr9778
    @ellisc.foleyjr9778 3 місяці тому

    I think one of the reason's you have such a loyal following of people like me, is we think a like!. the value of doing something yourself. for the sake of doing it "Youre" way! is priceless. it's not the money its the thought value, that you achieve. love every minute of it. even though I've seen it many times before. it never gets old. Craftsmanship and train of thought has its own value. thanks for sharing Dave.! ECF

  • @johnswain1092
    @johnswain1092 3 місяці тому +2

    Dave
    A man after my own heart

  • @MarioCano-sm2ns
    @MarioCano-sm2ns 3 місяці тому

    Excellent. I worked with an uncle who was a saddle builder. He built from the "ground up". Made the saddle trees in his garage and brought them to the shop. Covered in rawhide. I learned a lot from him. Just like you his quality was in his effort to make a quality product. To please his customer and comfort of the horse. Well done, I hope to someday make my way to Montana and visit you. I love that table saw.

  • @bencartee2113
    @bencartee2113 3 місяці тому

    First of I love your channel. You have a gift, not only as a master craftsman but also a storyteller...and many times the box is just as important as the item inside it.
    Second, no matter what you make, the extra touches make all the difference. It separates a good product at a fair price from a treasure, heirloom, or some day a historic artifact.

  • @johnmetzger7185
    @johnmetzger7185 3 місяці тому

    Dave, thank you for sharing your heart about these spokes. You're right, we all have different values - and I appreciate what is of most value to you! Awesom work as Always!

  • @bard44
    @bard44 3 місяці тому +1

    Now that is pretty neat. Never seen that done before. A duplicator.

  • @michelbrodeur6055
    @michelbrodeur6055 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice and easy touch on the belt sander, carving out the original and duplicating them all very satisfying at the end. Well done Dave.

  • @johncone9516
    @johncone9516 3 місяці тому

    Dave, self satisfaction will always come out on top. A most enjoyable video, thank you.

  • @petegraham1458
    @petegraham1458 3 місяці тому +5

    Nice spokes ! Just the way you wanted them , good for you for taking the time so they are done right.

  • @robertwilliamson8072
    @robertwilliamson8072 3 місяці тому +4

    I get you. All parts 100% made or repaired personally. It's definitely worth your time. It's magnificent.

  • @judithdomangue9995
    @judithdomangue9995 3 місяці тому +2

    Fascinating! Thanks for demonstrating how to do it.👏

  • @luckyjim51
    @luckyjim51 3 місяці тому

    When I'm doing the tedious the parts it frees my mind. I'm able to free think about making this better, or crafting new ideas. Its never waisted time....