Worlds biggest paint test! - pt. 1

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  • @SquidmarMiniatures
    @SquidmarMiniatures  2 роки тому +44

    🖌 If you want to try out the Squidmar Brushes go here: www.squidmar.com/latepledge

    • @OriginalRMG
      @OriginalRMG 2 роки тому +5

      Really spotty reviews on these :(, any update on quality control?

    • @RPRsChannel
      @RPRsChannel 2 роки тому +5

      *_Maybe also a good idea to find out via elimination which brands have the best METALLIC PAINTS._*

    • @madmoody100
      @madmoody100 2 роки тому +3

      @@RPRsChannel Sorry, no competition for acrylic - vallejo metal color, followed by ak and scale 75.

    • @wm2922
      @wm2922 2 роки тому +5

      Great test. What's missing though is a link to a table / chart with the final results

    • @barbarianbrush6728
      @barbarianbrush6728 2 роки тому

      Idk, regular DaVincis are much cheaper 😉

  • @INSTARPAINT
    @INSTARPAINT 2 роки тому +221

    Nice to see our paints here, though we will say that our paint was designed to be adaptable to the individual user very easily, something you touched upon when you said "Adding a medium would change the nature of the paint". We just provide a base and allow the user to adjust it as they see fit. Some people like glossy paint, others prefer more matte. In some cases, there's advantages to adjusting it depending on what area is being painted on the model.
    It's also based on building layers of paint rather than outright coverage from the first pass. However, each brand is different and each has advantages and disadvantages depending on who's using it. At least that has been our take away from the community over the past seven years where people love a certain line compared to others.
    Some amazing work from Lukas however, the model looked amazing!

    • @BloomThat
      @BloomThat 2 роки тому +11

      Really great to hear from you guys! I'd never heard of Instar before, and I'm definitely gonna look into your line from this video. The technical flexibility is a real plus and more and varied tools only helps. Thanks for what you guys do!

    • @barbarianbrush6728
      @barbarianbrush6728 2 роки тому +5

      Your paint just sucks though

    • @INSTARPAINT
      @INSTARPAINT 2 роки тому +41

      @@barbarianbrush6728 and you’re entitled to think that, not every brand will sit comfortably with everyone. You may say it sucks, other people would say it’s the best stuff they’ve ever used.
      Looking at other comments to this video would show that to be the same story with Army Painter, Pro Acryl, Citadel, Vallejo, AK etc
      It’s all just down to personal preference

    • @barbarianbrush6728
      @barbarianbrush6728 2 роки тому +4

      @@INSTARPAINT there's literally no-one of note that says "oh this is good paint", because it sucks.

    • @SarahRoseCO10
      @SarahRoseCO10 2 роки тому +40

      @@barbarianbrush6728 wow touch some grass my dude. Everyone has preferences, yours isn't the end all be all. I happen to very much like the adaptability of the @instar paints, I feel like it gives me a lot of creative freedom.

  • @KabinMiniatures
    @KabinMiniatures 2 роки тому +227

    I have mostly used Citadel and Vallejo, so it's cool to see all these other brands, some of which I've never even heard of!

    • @luuk341
      @luuk341 2 роки тому +5

      I have mostly the same.I mostly use Vajjelo with some Citadel here and there. But I do have some XTREME Metal from AK, and those are absolutely incredible. You 100% need an airbrush for them, but Ohh my god I cant get over how fantastic they arem.

    • @savagex466-qt1io
      @savagex466-qt1io 2 роки тому

      Me to. They are my favorite.

    • @murrrrrrv1113
      @murrrrrrv1113 2 роки тому

      Me too but Sometimes I also use tamiya

    • @nofuxgivens2797
      @nofuxgivens2797 2 роки тому

      Vallejo as a brand has everything you need. I will mention that the acrylics have some noticeable differences. Hobby line, gaming line and mecha line. I find that besides universal issues of certain colors like yellow. I don't encounter a bunch of paints in the same line that I have to use different which is why I suggest vallejo as most peoples start. Their liquid metal and mediums/flow improvers also do great

    • @johntan4997
      @johntan4997 2 роки тому

      Been using Citadel. Boy, do I hate the newer pots, the older pots were bad but managable. Looking to switch to other brands.

  • @bretmkal
    @bretmkal 2 роки тому +270

    You should have done a blind test without knowing which brand was which to remove bias in your very scientific testing method.

    • @Himle_
      @Himle_ 2 роки тому +26

      Yepp blind test or it's kinda pointless.
      That said, it was enjoyable to watch, i guess.

    • @WillWildsOutdoorAdventures
      @WillWildsOutdoorAdventures 2 роки тому +28

      @@Himle_ I wish they would have used the same model AND tried to color match. Seeing it presented like this does not much for me since they know what they are painting with, I really think mini paints are like wine if you know it's expensive it will change your judgment/review of it.

    • @Himle_
      @Himle_ 2 роки тому +11

      @@WillWildsOutdoorAdventures Couldn't agree more on using the same model/colours. I mean, how can you expect to compare a "bad coverage" colour like yellow with a dark blue?
      Also, when comparing paints like Instar, that are designed to be layered, it might be a good idea to use them as they are designed to do. I mean, you don't drive a diesel engine on ethanol and then complain it doesn't work...
      Also, by doing a blind test. You would remove things like GW = Bad pots & Expensive, so worse rating which doesn't affect the paint quality at all. (Sorry for ranting, tired and should be sleeping (: )

    • @mattkay7915
      @mattkay7915 2 роки тому +4

      yeah even the music was a give away that they are both vallejo fan boys (and not surprising ly tbh as they are one of the best paints out there)

    • @MAEX25
      @MAEX25 2 роки тому +3

      @@Himle_ but pot quality and price is important. Like the Pro Acrylic where you get paint all over the cap. Or Kimera which are freaking expensive and hard to get in the first place.
      And then you always have to consider why someone paints. Does he do it for fun or does he want to win a competition. I don’t need Kimera to just paint for relaxation.

  • @coreymorse1347
    @coreymorse1347 2 роки тому +45

    For Golden you should have been using the Fluid Matte line instead of the High Flow. A big brand that you missed was Liquitex. They are way more used than some of the ones you tested by a huge degree. Their acrylic gouache line is their version of Golden Soflat.

    • @ericdavis4964
      @ericdavis4964 2 роки тому +1

      I have been looking at Liquitex acrylic gouache so am interested in how it paints. One of the primary reasons I have been looking at the artist side of paints is you can actually see the pigments used and the opacity on the bottle

    • @coreymorse1347
      @coreymorse1347 2 роки тому +2

      @@ericdavis4964 I haven't tried it, but I've heard good things. Utrecht fluid acrylics are another one to look at. They are also matte and I've used them to good results. Really any matte fluid acrylic artist paint should be comparable in quality to hobby paint. Extra flow aide and drying retarder along with pre mixed colors is really all that separates fluid acrylics from hobby acrylics.

  • @KITPUNK
    @KITPUNK 2 роки тому +29

    Would love to see how Duncan's new Two Thin Coats paint holds up

  • @Domstar75
    @Domstar75 2 роки тому +9

    Absolutely fantastic job on the blonde hair with the scale 75 paints! It looked absolutely awesome!!!

  • @SquidmarMiniatures
    @SquidmarMiniatures  Рік тому

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  • @johnnytizz
    @johnnytizz 2 роки тому +13

    You can get alternate paint caps for the pro acryl bottles, btw. That's what I did and it's so much better with the flip-caps.

  • @CraigThomasBoyle
    @CraigThomasBoyle 2 роки тому +6

    Bright neutral grey by Pro Acryl has changed my life. It's SO good for coverage. Goes down totally flat without streaking and lets me layer white perfect.

    • @ProjeKtWEREWOLF
      @ProjeKtWEREWOLF 2 роки тому +1

      Transparent brown has been like magic for me. Using it for wood and leather; lay down values, then a coat of the TB over it. Wow.

  • @NikkiAnnMarie
    @NikkiAnnMarie 2 роки тому +32

    The Golden high flow paints are more like inks really, great through an airbrush and good for glazing, but have a glossier finish. They also have the advantage that because they're artist paints, they actually tell you the properties - how opaque they are, the pigments used, the finish etc. is readily available information, whereas with miniature brands it's a guessing game even within the same range. The video is great, but it's a shame you're only evaluating them based on a very specific painting method - semi-opaque/transparent (i.e., poor coverage) paints can be great if used to their strengths!

    • @ihaveasnake
      @ihaveasnake 2 роки тому +3

      Totally Agreed. I use highflow for my high-fantasy projects or to give OSL effects, and normally apply a matte varnish afterwards. It does seem The video is more of "Which paints are the best using standard brushes on a black primed model", as a lot of these paints have different uses for different applications like airbrushing or zenithal highlights and stuff. Still, its really helpful for getting an overall idea of how these paints look and feel or for beginners.

    • @NikkiAnnMarie
      @NikkiAnnMarie 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@ihaveasnake You're right, it's the typical way people are taught to paint miniatures so it makes sense, and is still useful in its own way as a comparison - you don't tend to hear people talk about how paint flows from the brush, for instance. Also, sometimes having a different finish across the mini (e.g. matte highlights, satin shadows) can add another layer of contrast that's often overlooked too!

  • @dances4980
    @dances4980 2 роки тому +15

    The Pro Acryl lids are designed to be left open on the table for a minute, so the majority of the paint may flow back down into the bottle.
    You can choose to purchase alternate "flip top" style lids from pro acryl. Great paints, I highly recommend giving this a try.

    • @thephoenix8722
      @thephoenix8722 2 роки тому +3

      Its because of the air pocket giving it acouple taps and the pain goes down.

    • @d.o.g573
      @d.o.g573 2 роки тому

      Tbh ? I don’t have a minute of time every time I open up a pot

    • @dances4980
      @dances4980 2 роки тому +1

      @@d.o.g573 yeah I prefer to purchase the flip top Lids just for this reason

    • @d.o.g573
      @d.o.g573 2 роки тому

      @@dances4980
      Is that a second range or do I have to refill them ?

    • @dances4980
      @dances4980 2 роки тому +1

      @@d.o.g573 the flip top Lids are sold separately they fit on the same bottles . They cost $6 for 10 lids. They are currently out of stock on the website sadly

  • @DanielEbeck
    @DanielEbeck 2 роки тому +12

    As soon as Lukas said "It's like painting with gel!", I knew that Warcolours wouldn't be going through. They need a different painting style.

    • @pelasgus
      @pelasgus 2 роки тому

      Its really peak tho; thats the good thing i love about them

    • @bookgrub
      @bookgrub 2 роки тому

      I love painting with them, but they're also the first paints I purchased after a Citadel starter kit. Totally different. Vince Venturella covered them pretty well.

    • @Dragonslairminis
      @Dragonslairminis 2 роки тому +1

      The irony is that they were against scale 75 who have a gel medium and are different to paint with. Basically scale 75 is how a gel based paint should be.

  • @lu3tz
    @lu3tz 2 роки тому +14

    Would love for you to show the golden high flow paints through an airbrush! Great video looking forward to the next part.

    • @coreymorse1347
      @coreymorse1347 2 роки тому +3

      That's a better use for them. The high flow are in the same category as acrylic inks. They should have been using the fluid matte line if they wanted something to go with the soflat.

    • @LemurKrazy
      @LemurKrazy 2 роки тому

      My high flow and sloflat sets arrived this week - high flow based on airbrush artist recommendations and soflat based on Ninjon’s review.

  • @PainterIdeas
    @PainterIdeas 2 роки тому +7

    This is the mostly easily watchable paint comparison video I can remember and we had a lot of them in the last months.
    Honest takes on the paint experience without sounding biased.
    Great content.

  • @stonewall78
    @stonewall78 2 роки тому +13

    It really sounds like you guys didn't read the instructions for the Army painter paints. The top is filled with extra medium. Before you mix it up you can remove some of the medium so the paint isn't extra thin. This way people can thin the paints to their liking. I would say this is 100% why you had coverage issues.

    • @Dragonslairminis
      @Dragonslairminis 2 роки тому +4

      That, plus they are terrible paints.

    • @TunneLVisioN42
      @TunneLVisioN42 2 роки тому +2

      Horrible Paints army painter is a plague

    • @grumpymeggo
      @grumpymeggo 2 роки тому +4

      I agree! You have to know that you're supposed to get rid of the extra medium on top of the paint. Army Painter always tells you how to use their paint! They are not terrible and surely not the plaguel Yes, you hear a lot of bashing towards Army Painter, but I bet a lot of the people who bash, didn't even try the paint before! If Army Painter paints were SO bad, the company wouldn't be so succesful, wouldn't be able to continiously expand the paint range and wouldn't be able to sell their products at such an affordable price!
      I personally started with Army Painter paints, never had problems with them and got good results! I don't say they are the best miniature paints on the market, but they are definitely way better than many people say! Just read the comments.
      Every paint range has its own characteristics and some are better for wet blending, some are better for layering. You have to take into account that every paint brand often offers different ranges. Like Model Color and Game Color. There is no "best paint in the world"! It all comes down to personal preferences and painting style!

    • @Dragonslairminis
      @Dragonslairminis 2 роки тому

      @@grumpymeggo I sold my mega set because they were basically unusable. I had reaper, vallejo and scale 75 all at the time so basically it was a no brainer.

  • @the.wannabe
    @the.wannabe 2 роки тому +3

    Word on the street is that Monument Hobbies has the best white paint. I still need to try it.

    • @devinoliver2396
      @devinoliver2396 2 роки тому +1

      Absolutely true. The caps are different than most people are used to, but it’s really not a big deal. They absolutely seal better than Vallejo and Army painter, which often dry in the stem and clog over the many years I’ve used them. You can order dropper or flip top caps from Monument for the paints. They absolutely will not break even with extreme thinning, and have excellent coverage. If you use a wet pallet be sure to use less water than normal.

  • @raxxillion
    @raxxillion 2 роки тому +1

    This ended up being more exciting than I thought! At first, I thought the match ups were going to be unfair. My champion (Vallejo) drew a challenge with Army Painter in the first round, while my nemesis (Citadel) got a guaranteed win with Apple Barrel. Good to see all your assessments so far mirror my own experiences with all the paints I have tried (about half the line up). Looking forward to next video!

  • @Wijkert
    @Wijkert 2 роки тому +6

    Like WarColours, Scale 75 also uses a gel medium for their paints. So it made sense to put them against each other. Just mentioning it, because you guys didn't.
    Ps, even though they are pretty subjective, comparison video's like these are my favorite video's to watch!

  • @screwball69
    @screwball69 2 роки тому +6

    Golden High Flow are a great airbrush paint especially over a zenithal but you do definitely need to matte coat them afterwards

  • @zaytunTV
    @zaytunTV 2 роки тому

    I attended an art academy for 5 years and majored in automobile design at Hongik University, the most famous art school in Korea. I get a lot of inspiration from watching your channel.

  • @rhammitt88
    @rhammitt88 2 роки тому +7

    I love my Vallejo which is damn near perfect every single time. I have a majority of Army Painter and I have not had the problems that Lucas had in this video or from what everyone says about them. Apart from their reds, their reds are just horrible. I'm surprised Pro Acryl didn't get as high of a score considering how much everyone raved about them. I feel that you should put Golden in the second round just because it had such a high score. I really want to get my hands on some Kimera and AK G3. Love this so far, can't wait to see who wins it all. Probably Vallejo lol

    • @drewshradel6423
      @drewshradel6423 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, AP vs Vallejo just seemed unfair. I would agree about the reds. I like many of the army painter paints and their air line is really pretty nice. Their colors are a bit off though, which is a bit annoying. Their drab green is really bright and not yellow enough whereas Vallejo's is much better in that regard.

    • @albertmockel6245
      @albertmockel6245 Рік тому

      Some army painter colours are bad, eg my Monster Brown and Martian Red misbehave. But I also have the same problem with one of my Vallejo grey. I think that it is more of a marketing problem army painter has with the youtube pro painter community.

  • @Dasp244
    @Dasp244 2 роки тому +6

    Just started watching, my money is on Pro Acryl to win the whole thing.

  • @ihaveasnake
    @ihaveasnake 2 роки тому +5

    Just a heads up, if you are using the Golden Highflow for mini pinting, they are really meant to be used through an airbrush. They give result similar to contrast paints through an air brush. Casey from EbayMiniatureRescues uses them all the time.

  • @norma1572
    @norma1572 2 роки тому +5

    It’s interesting you found the GSW paints to be low coverage since I found them to have great coverage and really loved them.

    • @TadashiAbashi
      @TadashiAbashi 2 роки тому +2

      Same, altho I've mostly used their metallics so far, I feel like some of these paints are MEANT to be easily used out of an airbrush, but ALSO can be used with a regular brush. So comparing a line of paints that is geared towards being airbrush friendly against a line of paints meant for brushes is pretty unfair IMHO. They have different uses and fulfill their role in a mini painters set of tools excellently. GSW metallics cover amazingly out of a brush, and their color shifting paints are top notch out of an airbrush. And their bottles literally say airbrush ready on them, so it's not fair to bash them on coverage and flow if they are actually correctly manufactured FOR their purpose..

    • @PlanetTrendy
      @PlanetTrendy 2 роки тому +1

      I've mainly used the metallics and the ink washes, both of which are really good. Their regular colours are very hit and miss, with the bright tones tending do hit more often (e.g. flubber green)

  • @wwaxwork
    @wwaxwork 2 роки тому +3

    It would be nice at the very end to have a list of all the paints with their scores.

  • @connorcowan7606
    @connorcowan7606 2 роки тому +1

    Been using Apple Barrel since I started painting. Still happy with it!

  • @xkukubax
    @xkukubax 2 роки тому +5

    I wonder how Two Thin Coats would square up against the big dogs.

    • @fogartyrt
      @fogartyrt 2 роки тому

      Literally thinking this the entire time I watched this video. I can't wait to get my complete set! I've been watching Duncan's tutorials for easily the last 6-7 years!

    • @Kathdath
      @Kathdath 2 роки тому

      Have they even started shipping yet? I was so worried about messing up when filling out my backer kit.

  • @dirkgaffron5456
    @dirkgaffron5456 2 роки тому +1

    With Golden paints you showed that you did not informed you about the products. They are colors from the art range. The high flow acrylics are primary made for airbrush. By using an airbrush they are very good. The fluid acrylics are also made for brush and airbrush. And only for brush are there acrylic paint tubes which are high pigmented but way to thick for miniatures. However, also a lot of the fluid paint are transparend or half transparend, as you can see on the bottles. Empty square are transparend and half black half empty square are half transparend. I recommend the N5 Neutral Gray from the high flow range for senital highlight

  • @Dargomar
    @Dargomar 2 роки тому +3

    my favorite brand of paint remains vallejo, ak and green stuff world. I find at my level that Greenstuff is easier to apply and is easier to mix with an Airbrush.

  • @lsizhevsk
    @lsizhevsk 2 роки тому

    I have waited this video for years! Thank you!

  • @edoNutella
    @edoNutella 2 роки тому +7

    At first I was like "ah, another paint comparison video", then you introduce the elimination tournament and I was like "WOW, ANOTHER PAINT COMPARISON VIDEO!"

  • @Zectari
    @Zectari 2 роки тому

    A superduper important characteristic you guys forgot is the colors in the paint series. As a newb it's very nice to use the trio system to GW for base, layer and edge because I suuuuck at mixing.

  • @WillWildsOutdoorAdventures
    @WillWildsOutdoorAdventures 2 роки тому +5

    Man, I wish these were the same miniature & colors so COMPARING at the end actually would mean something. Hard to say what is best when it's a different model AND color each time, I can't appreciate the details on "the best paint" if it's not compared to the other paints. Next time same model & color match AND if you can paint without knowing the paint, bonus if you paint blind so you don't know what brand it is. All these & I still don't know which is the next point I'd like to try, I HAVE to see them side by side with the same model & color set to judge. For example, I can't visually see a difference between Apple Barrel & Kimera BUT if they were both applied with the same colors to the same model maybe I could judge that better. Cheers Bruv keep up the great conent!

  • @mancominiaturas
    @mancominiaturas 2 роки тому +1

    Was surprised by GSW, since so much people talk well about them on Instagram, but im pretty sure most of this people have some kind of sponsorship by GSW.
    Glad you guys did this, i was about to do a big mistake 😅

    • @PapaKarcher
      @PapaKarcher 2 роки тому +1

      IMO I found GSW to be pretty amazing. There metals and color shifts are really cool. That being said I do think they work better out of an airbrush, and are made for airbrush in mind.

  • @_lewtz
    @_lewtz 2 роки тому +1

    so.. this is basically a 100% subjective video with no actual objective testing. Got it. Once again, Squidmar delivers mini-tainment.

  • @nestgumo6715
    @nestgumo6715 2 роки тому +10

    For me the best one are AK paints… they are more consistent in all the color range, not like Vallejo, for example the yellow colours from Vallejo are pretty bad in comparison with the other colours.

  • @dougsundseth6904
    @dougsundseth6904 2 роки тому +2

    Scale75 needs to be well mixed to work well. By well-mixed, I mean you have to beat it like a rented mule: use a vortex mixer with a dense agitator and keep it on the mixer for about a minute or so. Without that, the paints are OK at best. With that, they're freaking amazing.
    Golden Fluid Acrylics have a gloss finish because a gloss finish can maintain an inherently higher color saturation. (Matting agents scatter light at the surface of the paint which reduces saturation.) You can always matte the finish at the end of painting or add a matting agent during painting. The high-flow line is really nice for airbrushing and glazing, but it's functionally useless for basecoating. The Golden Soflat line is dead flat and very nice straight out of the jar, but I'd recommend putting it into dropper bottles (as I would with any other pot paint.) Most Golden paints are single pigment (and they tell you what pigment(s) each color uses).
    If you want a similar performance to Golden without a gloss finish, you might look at the Liquitex Acrylic Gouache line, which is flat and otherwise has similar performance to the Golden paints.
    Reaper paints are very nice; I've used them for more than a decade. As others have noted, though, their early metallics are garbage. (The metallic paints they've released in the last few years have been _much_ better.) It's too bad you don't have any of their browns, since that part of their range (including the paints nominally intended as skin colors) is excellent. There are a bunch of colors from their line that I use all the time.

  • @GreenLanternCorps2814
    @GreenLanternCorps2814 2 роки тому +1

    So which ones did Emil like from Golden? Not the high flow, but he seemed to talk about the regular pot acrylics, which he liked, and then he said he switched to... slow flow? and loved those even more.

    • @Starmixologist
      @Starmixologist 2 роки тому

      Slow flow :D Maybe he was speeking of Golden Fluid, I have no idea?

  • @bluestuka8215
    @bluestuka8215 2 роки тому +3

    I've used Vallejo for years and love them. My local shops started carrying AK and I've been considering giving them a try. After your review, I definitely will!! On a side note...What light are you using on your painting tables? It looks like it has good coverage.

    • @kimslavinjak686
      @kimslavinjak686 2 роки тому

      I just clicked on the link for my country - and saw that its not pointing to the correct lamp anymore. 2 years ago every link pointed to a Lightcraft lamp. Its still true for UK but the others seem to point to some different lamps - dont know if these are to recommend

  • @lectric
    @lectric 2 роки тому +1

    I love flip top pots, they stroke my soul right in the nostalgia.

  • @raver377
    @raver377 2 роки тому

    by the way for the final video:
    maybe not just include the overall winners but also paints that stand out (in a positive way) in one or two specific categories like for example:
    "paint xyz doesnt have good coverage and the enjoyability suffers abit BUT the end result is one of the best ones" etc like you have the over all winners aka generalist winners and then you have a couple of specialist winners that excell at specific categories

  • @jon0963
    @jon0963 2 роки тому

    Great to see golden perform so well, will certainly be easier to pick up paints. The high flow ones are pouring acrylics if I'm not mistaken so I would imagine them not performing the way a mini painter would expect.

  • @hofx666
    @hofx666 11 місяців тому

    As a beginner I love love love Ak. For me it’s easy to use and the after quality looks amazing. I feel like anytime I buy their paint I know what I’m getting. Citadel and the containers have been hit and miss so I tend to stray from them unless the color looks really appealing but I’m usually disappointed buy the paint itself.

  • @lenaevess
    @lenaevess 2 роки тому

    I had a lot of problems with my Army Paints, but then I heard that when you put a nut/bolt/bearing in the bottle and it changed the consistansy of the paint completely :)

  • @sidando9974
    @sidando9974 2 роки тому

    Great, a paint ranking video without a rank, a sheet or a conclusion

  • @FighterDoken
    @FighterDoken Рік тому +1

    Lol did you call the P3 pots "crappy?" Those pots are amazing :D

  • @anthonyalbanese1993
    @anthonyalbanese1993 2 роки тому

    Currently I use a combo of Vallejo, Kimera, Citadel (mostly for effects or specific shades), and Scale 75. Scale 75 and Kimera are probably my favorite in terms of Quality and usability. Both are very heavily pigmented and allow you to really play with them on the wet pallet. Kimera I’m still learning how to use … because mixing my own colors isn’t something I’ve had to do a lot of. Vallejo / Games Color I use a lot for their specific colors and shades, especially metallics - I’d say they have better “fantasy” metallics than the other brands. Scale 75 metallics, for instance, are tend to work more for me with Sci-fi models like 40k.
    Really enjoyed the video so far! Looking forward to the next part :)

  • @mordecai0815
    @mordecai0815 2 роки тому +1

    Sir Coates cries two thin tears!

  • @leedunning1825
    @leedunning1825 2 роки тому

    I can tell you one thing keeping Golden getting used more by Americans is the price. They're readily available, but they're crazy expensive. The 2 oz. pots of SoFlat range from about $10 U.S. to $25 U.S., and that's with a 20% sale going on. For me, the Reaper paints are the way to go. They're readily available (at least in the states) in hundreds of colors, and I am a fan of the eyedropper paint bottles.

  • @LazorzPewPew
    @LazorzPewPew 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for doing this!

  • @redleg1376
    @redleg1376 2 роки тому

    Vallejo air aluminum is one of the most enjoyable metallic paints to work with. I love it.

  • @christopherings7996
    @christopherings7996 2 роки тому

    Neat idea, but instead of the head to head battle, a chance for both artists to try each brand and then for a lower skill painter to give them a shot as well with a score given in roundup fashion may have ultimately proven more useful to the community of painters at large. I’ve also painted with most of those brands and a couple of others not listed in this matchup (Ammo by MIG)

  • @chrislee7704
    @chrislee7704 2 роки тому

    Awesome comparison! I've been using a starter kit of monument pro acryl for the past 6 months and overall they are really high quality in terms of their flow and coverage and also mix far nicer than others I've tried. I agree the bottles are not as nice as regular droppers but damn they make painting fun when you only need one coat! Quite matte finish too which allows you to control the final finish with varnishing

  • @septymesk7721
    @septymesk7721 2 роки тому

    So, Golden has a HUGE selection of colors, and I find the SoFlat line work amazingly well for me.
    Right now, I'm totally stuck on using Golden SoFlat, AK Interactive, and Archive-x paints for pretty much all my projects of late.

  • @MarshmallowMadnesss
    @MarshmallowMadnesss 2 роки тому

    I'm sad Army Painter didn't score so high since I was gifted a huge box set for my birthday. I was also hoping to see a battle between the cheap Apple Barrel vs FolkArt.

  • @heyy13
    @heyy13 2 роки тому

    As someone who primarily paints with reaper and a bit of vallejo this is a cool matchup!

  • @akkad6337
    @akkad6337 2 роки тому

    Tip to using Coat D’arms paints: paint over a white primer instead of black, the paint coverage is just much better. Plus it’s the old school way to prime, so you might as well use it for the old school paint.

  • @MrSJPowell
    @MrSJPowell 2 роки тому +1

    So I've recently started playing with Golden's SoFlat, and from my limited experiments, it has blown me away so far. Their permanent green light immediately replaced ProAcryl's Green for me. I will note that in the USA, they're a lot cheaper on DickBlick than in store for me, so price check them if you can. I have two critiques. First, because they're a fine art paint, they're fine art colors, which means things like skin tones are limited. Second, because they're a fine art paint, they're in those screw top lids. I wish they were in the high flow containers, but I know how to transfer to dropper bottles. It's kind of a pity they went up against Kimera, as those are a bit of a juggernaut, and I wouldn't be surprised if they make it to the final 4.
    ProAcryl has been my go to brand for painting for the past 2 or 3 years. Aside from the twist top, which as you noted will always leave at least some mess (especially if the pressure has dropped, or the bottle has warmed since you closed it) my big complaint is on how they separate over night on a wet palette. Even after mixing, they end up a little chunky, which is unlike most of the other brands I've used. That said, finish, range, price, and just how fun they are to paint with are all top notch.
    Citadel is Citadel. You know what you're getting, and what you're getting is good. Their pots are bad, and they're about a dollar more expensive than what you want to pay, but as everyone knows (aside from the white), they do good stuff. They have some really interesting colors, which I like to not have to mix in other ranges, so they still regularly end up on my palette.
    Vallejo is Vallejo, and they also do incredible stuff. What they do is well known, and their paints are great. Apparently they're a little difficult for distributors to get in the states (or maybe they're just not being pushed? IDK. It was like pulling teeth to get my LGS to stock any of their stuff), but yeah, if you can get them, use them. Their silver metallic paints are some of the best in the business. I'd like a few more options from the gold/copper/bronze tones for Vallejo Metal Color.
    AK Interactive III is another paint line I've used a ton of, and they're really fun. They're a little difficult to get a hold of here in America, but several of the colors are in my favorite selection of paints, and two or three tend to end up on nearly all my minis these days. They are military focused, rather than fantasy/scifi focused, so think Vallejo Model Color vs Vallejo Game Color. In many cases they do a lot of the same colors Vallejo Model Color does, but with a more matte finish, which is good in my book.

  • @tungsten_carbide
    @tungsten_carbide 2 роки тому

    That was a fun watch and great to see you guys painting with all these various paints! I can't load the nearly 1,000 comments but did someone already mention Jo Sonja? These are matt acrylics, made for fine-art and craft work so there's quite a decent colour selection although mini painters will still have to mix more than with dedicated mini paints.

  • @francispedersen2800
    @francispedersen2800 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, love AK, interested in seeing how far it makes it. One question though, that song at 9 min while you paint the tin man, what is that? I need to listen to that next time I paint!

  • @BarokaiRein
    @BarokaiRein 2 роки тому +2

    I'm surprised you didn't test any heavy body acrylics. With a title like that I expected to see at least couple tube paints in here.
    Scale 75 artist range being probably the best example because everyone has heard of Scale75 and they're quite affordable when compared to other HBAs.

    • @opsimathics
      @opsimathics 2 роки тому

      how did you miss the part where he tried Golden and Kimera

    • @BarokaiRein
      @BarokaiRein 2 роки тому +1

      @@opsimathics Those aren't heavy body acrylics,they're just pure pigment paints. Heavy body acrylics are about as thick as oil paints.

  • @Ferrariferg
    @Ferrariferg 2 роки тому

    I only just recently started painting minis and the Apple Barrel paints are what I had available if I wanted more than 3 colors. lol. They sell them in the craft section at Walmart and they're usually less than $1 per bottle for the basics. I was surprised to see how highly you scored them for such a low cost option.

  • @Crackpot25
    @Crackpot25 2 роки тому

    Finally, some love for reaper miniature paints! Been using these things forever and I love them to death. Please note if you're going to try them out the metallics aren't the best. They're not the worst but, they're not the best.

  • @warsaucer8307
    @warsaucer8307 2 роки тому

    I love how Lukas´ painting after an hour looks better than what i´ve accomplished over 2 years

  • @Sandmann1193
    @Sandmann1193 2 роки тому +2

    That basically represents what iam doing. Using citadel most of the times. But for white especially I switch to valejo

  • @gutshotcrypto3559
    @gutshotcrypto3559 2 роки тому

    thanks for doing this Emille

  • @NIGHTMARE-zy7tq
    @NIGHTMARE-zy7tq 2 роки тому

    WOW time stamp's would be AWSOME!!!!!

  • @anthonyambrose7830
    @anthonyambrose7830 2 роки тому

    Dude that paint collection is beautiful...

  • @malakye7459
    @malakye7459 2 роки тому

    People rave about Pro Acryl's White, but those people haven't tried AK's Intense white, its Magic. I pick and choose from quite a few ranges but if I could do it all again I would heavily invest in AK for general colours, haven't tried their metallic paints since I have all the Pro Acryl (which are great) and all the Scale75 (also great). Looking forward to trying out my Two Thin Coats paint coming soon.

  • @martins3655
    @martins3655 2 роки тому +1

    Couple of matchups were doomed from the start. Golden is top 3, but you put them against Kimera, which is also top notch. Meanwhile you have others that sneaked further despite being waaaaaaay worse.

  • @KT-pv3kl
    @KT-pv3kl 2 роки тому

    The best paint is obviously goblin green from citadel in the old screw too pots and Noone can convince me otherwise!

  • @notcreativeside
    @notcreativeside 2 роки тому +1

    Will there be an airbrush version of this? Could be interesting to see if brands perform differently.

  • @BirdwithaBrush
    @BirdwithaBrush 2 роки тому

    Thank you for such a thorough comparison! Golden High Flow is more of an ink than a paint. It's the Golden brand equivalent of Liquitex Acrylic Inks or FW inks. You might check some of the Nocturna paints again and stir them. I found the mid and lighter colours particularly had to be stirred to thoroughly mix after I left them sitting for a long time. Once thoroughly mixed, they were quite thick - almost too much so! Many of the darker colours seem to be made in more of a shade or glaze/tone consistency. This might be true of some of the other paints that seemed runny or super transparent as well. I have a lab vortex mixer, and it's great, but I have found that some paints need a little stirring to get moving enough for the mixer to work.

  • @pixl3l
    @pixl3l 2 роки тому

    The golden high flow carbon black is amazing as a base for metals as it is so shiny ^^

  • @jasontripp9416
    @jasontripp9416 2 роки тому

    Hey, thanks for doing this!! Very informative.

  • @RisingApe
    @RisingApe 2 роки тому

    Great video, it would have been nice to see the Golden Paints separated out, as the So Flat, High Flow and Fluid Acrylic are 3 separate ranges really. But cool to see such a big comparison

  • @level1slime
    @level1slime 2 роки тому +1

    this video is amazingly done also I saw h3 in the B roll footage shoutout to your family

  • @spartangaming2336
    @spartangaming2336 2 роки тому

    As an american who scoffs at applebarrel I was thoroughly surprised!

  • @villa1162
    @villa1162 2 роки тому

    I hope you make similar videos for other products, like best primer, varnish, metallic paints (since these are not included in your test now) as well as best white.

  • @DeeperWithDiego
    @DeeperWithDiego 2 роки тому +1

    For viewers out there, the match ups are a smoke screen. All that matters is the score.

  • @codelicious6590
    @codelicious6590 2 роки тому

    There was obviously alot of work and time invested into this vid and I hesitate to critique in any way due to this fact however, I have read that many miniature paint brands are just rebranded product from other manufacturers, I know Vallejo and Warcolours are strictly proprietary but I do not know about any of these other ones, it would be interesting to see which of these brands you guys tested were in fact the exact same product from the same manufacturer. Great vid though and very helpful! Thank you!

  • @glensimpson
    @glensimpson 2 роки тому +2

    I'm actually a bit shocked at the Army Painter results. I've only ever used their Greenskin paint to get some Salamanders ready for the tabletop and one or two washes. I've never had an issue with coverage, but I've tried so little of their range.
    Also, I was really hoping to see Duncan Rhodes' Two Thin Coats in here.

    • @josephmurphy2233
      @josephmurphy2233 2 роки тому

      Duncan's paints aren't for sale because they're still being altered right now. They've had some early reviews but the final product might be different than the ones used in reviews so far.

    • @Kathdath
      @Kathdath 2 роки тому +1

      I was little surprised as well, I have to wait until the following day to see anything like that level of serration in my wet pallet

  • @TurnStyleGames
    @TurnStyleGames 2 роки тому

    Been painting for a long time, and used a lot of paints (most of the brands in this comparison). At the end of the day I go back to Vallejo and recently AK interactive. While I like elements of other lines...Vallejo/AK are just the best bang for the buck, and most reliable/consistent/easy to use, etc. If I had to pick one range it'd be one of those.

  • @Epyon1201
    @Epyon1201 Рік тому

    Armored Komodo has started selling worldwide through their ebay store. They have a large selection now. Any plants to add new product lines to the test?

  • @seanstevenson9891
    @seanstevenson9891 2 роки тому

    Damn! I saw the notification , and said,"WOO HOO! The Manta's done."
    Stop teasing me, Bro. 😁

  • @qzl9
    @qzl9 2 роки тому

    ive really never had any issues with army painter, quite surprised it was ranked this low. I do empty out the extra medium as supposed to. and i put in small mixing balls in all my paints. That might be why i have zero coverage and separation issues.

  • @hobbitgillam
    @hobbitgillam 2 роки тому

    Will be interested to hear what you think about Two Thin Coats paints when they're released.

  • @Stendalerchen
    @Stendalerchen 2 роки тому

    Your Paint Style and Understanding of Color is unbelievable! You Guys must think about a Online Paint Academy, like this from Duncan Rhodes! Greetings!

  • @Thertra70
    @Thertra70 2 роки тому

    You did army painter dirty! Felt rated far to low, I’ve tried a bunch of paints and it’s still my daily driver for base coating. Excited to,try some of these others you tested though!

  • @aurgart
    @aurgart 2 роки тому

    Good video, a question: why no heavybody acrylic?

  • @Wijkert
    @Wijkert 2 роки тому +1

    The Golden High Flow range is more akin to artist inks link the ones from Liquitex, Daler Rowney etc.

  • @elbanditouk
    @elbanditouk 2 роки тому

    Interesting video! I think the Army Painter paints are bottled with medium in the top of the bottle that needs to be squirted out before use. Also, what about Vallejo "Model Colour" - these are super common. Would be interesting to see the two Vallejo paints compared,

  • @devinpham8906
    @devinpham8906 2 роки тому

    Sad to see no mention of Scale75's Artist Range! I love using them thicc paints!

  • @wraithoflambeg
    @wraithoflambeg 2 роки тому +1

    Just ordered some GSW paints to try as an alternative to Citadel, bit worried to see it not do great, but hoping I can make it work!

    • @TadashiAbashi
      @TadashiAbashi 2 роки тому

      I was actually kinds pissed the way they treated GSW, I've loved every one of their paints I've tried so far. It literally says airbrush or brush on the bottle, and the flow and coverage are the way they are to make them more friendly for glazing and airbrushing.. the bottles come with a mixer inside which they also didn't mention. GSW metallics are amazing and have fantastic coverage with a brush and their color shift paints are spectacular out of an airbrush.. every brand also has their hits and misses, and perhaps they tried to use one of their not quite amazing paints as a base coat and then proceeded to shit all over the brand like all their paints do that. SMH.. they did GSW fucking dirty with this video. You will likely enjoy your experience with GSW! At worst, you can use citadel for a base coat then switch to GSW for layers.

    • @wraithoflambeg
      @wraithoflambeg 2 роки тому +1

      @@TadashiAbashi fingers crossed. I needed browns from a scarecrow modem and am not confident mixing yet, I have had my eye on their fluorescent paints too

  • @cheyannemathis5706
    @cheyannemathis5706 2 роки тому

    I’m glad you got to try Reaper paints. They are based in the town I live in and have such good paints imo and are really affordable in the US. I highly recommend them to anyone because of their range and flow.

  • @MutsuKazuma
    @MutsuKazuma 2 роки тому

    enjoyment is the most subjective and that is gonna weigh double, ah yes

  • @0ld1eye
    @0ld1eye 2 роки тому

    I played around a lot with different paint brands when I first got into painting, and eventually settled on Vallejo as my workhorse brand and Citadel for their technical paints; Vallejo really are a joy to use, even their "worse" Game Colour range which has a slightly glossy finish and slightly worse coverage, but is much tougher and designed for frequently handled tabletop minis. I really don't think you can ever go far wrong with Vallejo, and they even have some hidden gems like their Glaze range.
    I've got a handful of reaper paints and they're pretty good, but I'm UK based and can confirm they're an absolute bitch to get hold of - that, and they do tend to separate and need an ungodly amount of shaking to be useable. Also, their white and bone colours are truly awful.
    However... different paint ranges do tend to have weaknesses in different places, and I cannot stand the yellows from either Vallejo or Citadel so I've been hunting around for an alternative for quite a while. I'll give Kimera a look, but I've tried so many I'm starting to just think yellow just sucks to paint overall...

  • @Breland1976
    @Breland1976 2 роки тому

    Loved this video looking forward to next week.

  • @chriswer6490
    @chriswer6490 2 роки тому

    Great test. I'd have loved to see more heavy body paints like Scale artist, Schmincke, Lascaux and so on. Perhaps for the next round 😉