I tried 3000-Year-Old Hairstyles • Using Iron Age Tools!

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  • @MorganDonner
    @MorganDonner  4 роки тому +183

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    • @c.wrightcreativeautochtone2574
      @c.wrightcreativeautochtone2574 4 роки тому +1

      I’ve i question about this... I played this game but it basically was just a seek and find.

    • @warriormaiden9829
      @warriormaiden9829 4 роки тому +2

      I'd like to suggest a bit of a shortcut to make perfect, tapered spirals. Get a chopstick that is about the same size as your braid end. Wrap the wire around the chopstick to desired length, then trim the ends, smooth, and flatten in. Slide off the chopstick, and proceed with styling. :)

    • @wynnew.h5245
      @wynnew.h5245 4 роки тому

      You finally got me (to be fair, Bernadette and Rachel laid a good groundwork) and I was surprised by how much I like this game!

    • @cayenigma
      @cayenigma 4 роки тому

      How about twisting the spiral so the top end of it bites inside the braid, would that hold better?

    • @FoxVox
      @FoxVox 4 роки тому +1

      I wonder if they used the spiral to cinch a knot?
      When I braid or fingercurl my hair I often finish it with a figure 8 knot.
      I tried this with a homemade spiral and it captures and stays great!

  • @Kinzichi
    @Kinzichi 4 роки тому +1607

    For a second when you said "I couldn't find anywhere that sells them."
    My monkey brain jumped to 'Ah, yes. Grave robbery.'

  • @thesolocreative3538
    @thesolocreative3538 4 роки тому +163

    I legit would pay for the recreation ones though... the styling is amazing and would look so good in bridal hair with the almost stud look on completion.

  • @teeedmonds8630
    @teeedmonds8630 3 роки тому +68

    As an archaeologist this pleases me greatly :D what you were saying about context (are these everyday styles/pins? Special occasion? or even purely for burial?) is so KEY in every archaeological site and its associated artefacts and features. Thoroughly enjoyed your experimental archaeology jaunt! :D

  • @stellaengel1338
    @stellaengel1338 4 роки тому +411

    Just imagine 3000 years from now some futuristic version of Morgan analyzing our hair ties, brushes, scrunchies, and butterfly clips

    • @themombat1193
      @themombat1193 3 роки тому +52

      Please don't bury me with a scrunchy!

    • @merionesunguiculatus6049
      @merionesunguiculatus6049 3 роки тому

      @@themombat1193 😂

    • @BlackjackaandHookers
      @BlackjackaandHookers 3 роки тому +28

      "Today we're going to explore how people secured their hair before Hair Lasers."

    • @evie402
      @evie402 3 роки тому +13

      Istg if someone buries me with a scrunchie I'll rise from the dead just to strangle them.

    • @nb1571
      @nb1571 3 роки тому

      Not if they take it off my body- I won’t be happy

  • @msxy9594
    @msxy9594 4 роки тому +32

    The "buns over the ears look" has also a practical reason, as it would have keept the ears warm in winter..

  • @GymGirl88
    @GymGirl88 4 роки тому +406

    "I might be getting a little bit weird" 🤣🤣🤣 we love academia!
    Edited: you should totally send this video to Karina (the paper author) as an academic I am 100% sure she would love to watch this video and see you experimenting with her research!

    • @gabriellerussell8484
      @gabriellerussell8484 4 роки тому +58

      I second this! There’s not a single academic I know that wouldn’t adore seeing their research in action this way.

    • @maleahlock
      @maleahlock 4 роки тому +11

      This!!!!

    • @sfowler1017
      @sfowler1017 4 роки тому +15

      That was my first thought! Definitely send it to her.

    • @scarletpimpernelagain9124
      @scarletpimpernelagain9124 4 роки тому +17

      Yes, don’t be shy about it, the dissemination of information is important.

    • @beth_winegarner
      @beth_winegarner 4 роки тому +4

      YES!!

  • @ShortButDeadly89
    @ShortButDeadly89 4 роки тому +108

    I actually use something very similar(the spiral) in my braids. I know that i’ve seen a lot of pictures of ancient African women wearing it and other beautiful “hair jewelry”

  • @mandacole8703
    @mandacole8703 3 роки тому +7

    I was able to replicate this, in a way, at home with regular pins. I used jewelery pliers to straighten them out and twist the ends into small hooks. They are my favorite hair accessories! So easy to use and extremely comfortable.

  • @HASQ779
    @HASQ779 4 роки тому +57

    I wear my hair in a single braid every single day, and I MEAN every single day. I was MEANT for these hairstyles, if only I had iron age pins....

  • @izzieluv
    @izzieluv 3 роки тому +1

    The one on top of your head at 21 minutes is soooo pretty!! The spiral to secure the tip of your braid looks cool showing at the back.

  • @Chibihugs
    @Chibihugs 4 роки тому +60

    Connecting to the past via hairstyles is such a fun bit of time travel. Nothing weird about learning strange history , so sayeth I (I am biased though as a teacher! Lol) PS- I love the new intro card! Gorgeous 👏🥰

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 роки тому +8

      Hair history is one of my favorite things! Thank you for being an awesome teacher and passing that love of learning onto the next generation :D

  • @FlybyStardancer
    @FlybyStardancer 4 роки тому +21

    So cute! I love the crown style, and those ancient space buns are cute on you! And I love how the heads of the pins add a lovely decorative element to the hair. And the gown was rather appropriate for the Princess Leia buns! XD

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 роки тому +10

      Oooo, Medieval Princess Leia sounds like a fun outfit idea!

  • @petraarkian7720
    @petraarkian7720 4 роки тому +1

    depending on your wedding style a double braid like that could be a nice base (could throw flowers and stuff in) especially for brides who want a lot of fancy updo showing but don't necissarily have enough hair to do lots in front and back.

  • @christabeljoy2443
    @christabeljoy2443 4 роки тому +15

    I am loving the “medieval space bun” look I will totally experiment with that in my everyday hairstyles, because I’m weird I guess?

  • @KwaterbugBUTCHER
    @KwaterbugBUTCHER 3 роки тому +3

    All of us are loving the entire journey you went into knowing the general start points towards hair styles , functions , readin the materials culminating the knowledge into having the idea commissioned

  • @shroomyk
    @shroomyk 4 роки тому +7

    Experimental archeology is so much fun. This was really cool. I find the really old stuff like Iron age and Bronze age things to be fascinating, because we only have so many clues about it.
    Also, you have some really pretty, thick hair. I'm so jealous.

  • @tessacyclone6329
    @tessacyclone6329 4 роки тому +2

    so cool!! I experiment with my hair a lot and I actually used 7 small wooden skewers to hold a bun also . its very logical . because there was a pin inside the spiral I think the spiral is maybe pinned inside the bun

  • @AquaMoonMaiden
    @AquaMoonMaiden 4 роки тому +138

    Am I the only one who wants to know who she commissioned her pins from, so I can get a set?

    • @rsearls5064
      @rsearls5064 4 роки тому +5

      You are not the only one! Do want! 8D

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 4 роки тому +8

      I am exited about the local makerspace opening up again and finding someone with the appropriate skill set

    • @bernadetteburgoyne8238
      @bernadetteburgoyne8238 4 роки тому +6

      AquaMoonMaiden me too, aren't they beautiful. I can't wait for my hair to grow back. I cut it up to my neck in September and cut it again in January. It's now laying on my shoulders. It was past my bottom when I cut it.xx

    • @PacakeQueen
      @PacakeQueen 4 роки тому +1

      Same!

    • @agypsycircle
      @agypsycircle 4 роки тому +2

      Absolutely!

  • @h.borter5367
    @h.borter5367 3 роки тому +3

    My paternal grandmother wore a wreath braid when she was young, I guess. It was a German-Nordic style, though.

    • @joyniklas8887
      @joyniklas8887 3 роки тому

      Mine did, too! ❤️ Up until her last few years, when my aunt convinced her to cut it short.

  • @maleahlock
    @maleahlock 4 роки тому +6

    So impressed that you had those manufactured! The research plus physical examples is absolutely wonderful! Thank you for the video.
    Also, another way to coil the wire is to wrap it around a wooden dowel tightly wrapped with a couple layers of newspaper. Wet the newspaper to slide the wire off if you have too firm a hand and wrapped it a bit tight.

  • @hskatkat
    @hskatkat 2 роки тому +1

    I think I just enjoy you. I’ve been in a depressive slump but your hair videos have legitimately made me smile. Thanks for being educational and fun

  • @professionalpainthuffer
    @professionalpainthuffer 4 роки тому +8

    This is how my mom and grandma did their hair before they decided to get haircuts. I'll never not be surprised by how much the world changes, while humans really haven't changed at all.

  • @Teajay21
    @Teajay21 3 роки тому +4

    Almost makes me wish I had long hair again! I love ancient braided styles.

  • @katiekawaii
    @katiekawaii 4 роки тому +18

    "Contemporary dress"
    "Contemporary dress"
    "W H A T"
    😂

  • @AnnekeOosterink
    @AnnekeOosterink 4 роки тому +30

    Morgan: hey I have sponsor!
    Me: Hey look it's a greyhound! Look at the cute doggo! Greyhound! Greyhounds are the best! Gimme cuddles! Oh you were saying something? :P

  • @niamhfox9559
    @niamhfox9559 9 місяців тому

    I had short hair for decades but after I grew it out long I was so shocked I could keep my hair up all day while working with just pins or sticks (florist supplier so outside getting sicks and leaves stuck in my hair) and mostly used crochet hooks of a lot of sizes, biro pens, and the occasional actual hair sticks. I had assumed long hair was kept up with some kind of deal with the devil. The pins look so cool.
    If you have a vice(sp?) and jewellery/ring making rods it might be easier to create the spiral. The spirals look so interesting and pretty! Maybe in loose hanging braids it got tied with string/thread in the same way you did those ribbons in braids a while ago? They'd have some simple trick to keep it in all day even if it was fancy wear.

  • @annhjaogtomnielsen530
    @annhjaogtomnielsen530 Рік тому

    The herringbone interweave work.. wow! Impressive!!!

  • @mwythe0926
    @mwythe0926 4 роки тому

    When i did ballet as a kid, i sometimes used single spiral bobby pins to hold my bun. It was My immediate thought when i saw the spiral piece, possibly used for reinforcement in addition to the pins.

  • @katwitanruna
    @katwitanruna 4 роки тому +20

    I was watching you coiling and thinking of making coils on a mandrel before cutting links for chainmail.

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 роки тому +8

      A mandrel would have been so handy for this project!

    • @katwitanruna
      @katwitanruna 4 роки тому +2

      Morgan Donner I’ve seen friends make their own. Loved the Video!!

  • @juliazackary8244
    @juliazackary8244 4 роки тому +1

    Can you please make a tutorial video of your favorite everyday hairstyles, including how you tie off your braids with string? That would be amazing!
    I love your styles!

  • @RogueStitches
    @RogueStitches 3 роки тому

    I really like how the head of the pin looks in your braid bun. I wish I had long hair so I could wear pretty pins like that.

  • @Nina-rj4nu
    @Nina-rj4nu 3 роки тому

    A braid is when you incorporate the entire head of hair. What you are doing is called a plait. I cannot braid but always plait and I never thought there were so many interesting styles to do with plaits. I have always been envious of my friends who are able to braid but I don't think I will anymore after seeing your video and am excited to try the various styles. I particularly am impressed with the 'make your own' extra, very cool. I love the coil! It is so very chic. N P.S. My son thinks you look like Leah, "Not just the hairstyle, but in the face!" He is 11.

  • @CakedCrusader9
    @CakedCrusader9 4 роки тому +1

    Stumbled upon this video at random and this was such a treat! My goal is to grow my hair out for a few years (it's currently just above my shoulders) and then live my best life with ancient-victorian hairstyles exclusively. I am gonna have to keep the coil hair tie in mind!!

  • @RianShafer
    @RianShafer 3 роки тому

    My bet is the pins were an every day thing. I have an antique one with a cool design in the metal twist on the top. Alas, I have always had fine slick hair and never could wear it. The end of the "screw" can turn into the hair to help hold it better. JMO Enjoyed your vid very much!

  • @hailtothefire_
    @hailtothefire_ 3 роки тому

    These are way prettier than most modern hair pins for sure!

  • @amieroberg9258
    @amieroberg9258 8 місяців тому

    This was very interesting. I love the grave reconstruction

  • @RomeoandJuliet55
    @RomeoandJuliet55 3 роки тому

    I would love to see more veils. It really brings the history of the hair styles to life.

  • @sloanmcclinton1794
    @sloanmcclinton1794 2 роки тому +1

    could you please do a video on historical hair for shoulder-length hair? ps love your channel

  • @deadinteresting8905
    @deadinteresting8905 4 роки тому

    I studied Hallstatt for my Archaeology degree, lovely to see and bit of experimental archaeology

  • @kmalloney
    @kmalloney 4 роки тому +1

    I sure do Love listening to all you Budding Archeologists 😊❤️! Keep that curiosity alive!! AND, Keep thinking deeply about our ancient origins. I'm a Cultural Anthropologist, an ancient one (as in, I'm an ancient human now 😉😁)..... and can feel the flutter of excitement every time a new discovery is made! ❤️❤️🙏

  • @acebaker3623
    @acebaker3623 4 роки тому

    I can't believe someone with hair as long as yours, hasn't popped your hair into a bun and held it up with a pencil or a chopstick, as I have thousands of times. Of course single pins hold your hair securely! That screw thing also works much better if you take advantage of the screw and screw it into your hair. It won't fall out. It will hold your hair securely even without putting it up.

  • @ladyinthewell3710
    @ladyinthewell3710 4 роки тому +1

    I wonder if they wove the hair through the spiral to keep it fixed in place like how you use a key chain loop. If that makes sense? If you weave it out through the loop then back in so it is covered on both sides of the 'stitch'?

  • @crypticwestwind876
    @crypticwestwind876 4 роки тому +13

    "Graves are the coolest thing" oKay Morgan

  • @cindydolezal9362
    @cindydolezal9362 4 роки тому

    A fun video. If you don’t want to mess with making the pins a turkey lacing needle looks just like your handmade pin. Only in a silver color though.

  • @Ms.W529
    @Ms.W529 Рік тому

    I like the braid on top the best.

  • @luisaharkey4046
    @luisaharkey4046 2 роки тому

    I theorize that you could twist/screw the spiral on and partially into the braided end to have better hold.

  • @weirdquestions2478
    @weirdquestions2478 4 роки тому

    In the academic paper you cite, these pins are considered to have been used every day.

  • @harleygeneannett6547
    @harleygeneannett6547 4 роки тому +1

    Love your videos! This one was great, I always need new historic hairstyles.

  • @ValkyrieVal3
    @ValkyrieVal3 4 роки тому

    The odd shape of the pin heads might be a 'I need to be able to grip this easily in winter' as well as a 'my hair will slip back off if I don't'
    Explanation: I have a mild issue with my hands occasionally going numb. In addition to the obvious 'stop the hair slipping off the back end (which could, as you've pointed out, could be easily made with just coiling it in a circle and would require less valuable metal), in a world without centralised heating, the big, round ends could be used to help make the pins substantially easier to grip in eg winter when your hands might not have 100% sensation from the cold.

  • @veritysmiler6634
    @veritysmiler6634 2 роки тому

    16:51 this transitioned PERFECTLY into a grammarly ad. This is why I need youtube premium.

  • @HarleyQuinn62
    @HarleyQuinn62 4 роки тому

    I think it's also important to think that these women of the past likely had someone else helping them to put the pins in. That would make it easier to make the pin placement ideal.

  • @leylajansson470
    @leylajansson470 4 роки тому

    What about putting the very end of the end of the hair into the rings of the spiral? And maybe back in again, if you do it a ring up or so?

  • @basraabdulle3526
    @basraabdulle3526 4 роки тому

    Nice person, who like to test how and what people use to Do, things and how did they face life and what to Do when you need anything in like when people started wearing regular clothing or Shoe or like when they make themselves more beautiful like when they make the new thing call Jewelery for the women or a men, too. Job well done.

  • @daniellelehn8554
    @daniellelehn8554 3 роки тому +1

    Do you think maybe the spiral is used to twist onto the actual hair? Like to secure it a bit?

  • @artemisdeplume
    @artemisdeplume 3 роки тому

    I wish you were selling these pins, this looks so cool!

  • @whippetgirl123
    @whippetgirl123 4 роки тому

    OMG you have a greyhound!!! What a love! :'D I have a whippet and I have such a soft spot for sighthounds

  • @mmw55122
    @mmw55122 4 роки тому

    If you wish to make your own pins, look for "half-hard" wire to shape it. And, anytime you hammer wire, even gently, you harden it so it should keep its shape better. Fyi.

  • @Desertbearsangel
    @Desertbearsangel 3 роки тому

    Super cute hairstyles!

  • @EmmaSpAce111
    @EmmaSpAce111 3 роки тому +1

    "pierce the veil" my brain immediately has multiple songs play in my head at once

  • @jessn.2665
    @jessn.2665 4 роки тому

    Dude. Idk if I’m just stupid, but I had no idea how to use double pins before this video. I’m almost 26 years old. Thanks!!!!!

  • @HitherandYarn
    @HitherandYarn 4 роки тому

    I haven't finished watching the video yet, but wonder if you can wind the last bit of hair through and around the last coil in the doodlydoo to sort of anchor it to the hair.

  • @frogglemuffin5441
    @frogglemuffin5441 3 роки тому

    Your videos are so satisfying

  • @Madamoizillion
    @Madamoizillion 3 роки тому

    🎶Pins from a grave🎶 (sung to the tune of "Kiss from a rose")

  • @badarock177
    @badarock177 3 роки тому

    I'm a girl with very very short hair, impossible to pin anything, but this was fascinating to watch.

  • @ragatrix
    @ragatrix 4 роки тому

    surprise, surprise, the methods of the ancients work. yeah. coz. they did know what they were doing, we are all in shock :) it's very awesome that since they didnt have any concept of rubber bands they had the entire world of invention open to them to find a solution that works that isnt - well, scrunchy. love it.

  • @kasandramckenna6221
    @kasandramckenna6221 4 роки тому

    Intuitively I feel like those spirals are there so you can turn it into the hair so that it is securely in the braid. But I don’t know 🤷🏻‍♀️ just an idea.

  • @lauralake3209
    @lauralake3209 4 роки тому

    oh, i wish my hair would grow long....so pretty! and so interesting to think of long ago women, and their hairpins.

  • @AAD2698
    @AAD2698 4 роки тому

    two thoughts. First that fold up with a wire wrap. You seemed to fold it up to the side. I'm betting it was folded up UNDER the top of the braid. I did that for several years to make loops for 1860s girls when my daughter volunteered at a living history museum. The tip will actually kind of tuck in and want to stay. Second, who ever said they were JUST used in funeral setting must have been male! any woman who has or had that long hair, and a woman at that time in history did!, who had long hair was going to do her durnest to get it OUT OF THE WAY! AHH yes, braids and pins for the win!

  • @mar-shagazorpazorp6431
    @mar-shagazorpazorp6431 3 роки тому

    6:05
    I was like, “just lick it girl ! “ out loud, thinking I was alone, then I heard my pops from behind me, “the hell you watching?”

  • @lindaainsworth1784
    @lindaainsworth1784 3 роки тому

    Just a suggestion here. Jewelers use metal rod to twist the wire around. It might be a little easier

  • @empressbat
    @empressbat 4 роки тому

    COuld the spiral part instead of having hair threaded thorugh the inside, be used to coil the ends of the hair around and hold the hair with a pin through th einside of the coil? this is an interesting video. Ay first when you showed the images of the burial images I wondered if the pins were only for the dead, and were shoved through the cranium... but then i thought that was ridiculous..

  • @flowerchild777
    @flowerchild777 4 роки тому

    This was incredibly educational, thank you, but I have copper which is definitely usable

  • @gimpinainteasy
    @gimpinainteasy 2 роки тому

    Man.. watching those pins go in like a magic trick. Also, they look like nails. lol.

  • @drywdanner6896
    @drywdanner6896 3 роки тому

    (Scrolled through some comments, but not all) So, I wonder if there is a tiny space between wire spirals at the wider end, if the whole thing could be "screwed" into a portion of the braid to add some staying power?

  • @emmakay1999
    @emmakay1999 4 роки тому

    I wonder if the spring thing was used in the center and the pins were pushed into it to hold them...

  • @annies.3330
    @annies.3330 4 роки тому

    That are used in dreadlocks. You actually twist them into the hair. Its easier to use a wooden dowel and wrap the wire around it. Not as much work.

  • @hellomoron
    @hellomoron 2 роки тому +1

    BTW if it helps, I think you can get metal martini skewers that are roughly the same length/look of these pins. I've been experimenting with making clay flowers on the tops of these types of sticks so they look about the right length!

  • @AbbyCox
    @AbbyCox 4 роки тому +2137

    Morgan, "I'm getting weird." Me, "Yes, I am here for this, please continue." Morgan, "I had a manufacturer make hairpins for me." Me, "YES, YOU DID GET WEIRD AND THIS IS THE BEST WEIRD OF ALL TIME. HELL YES EXPERIMENTAL HAIR ARCHEOLOGY YES YES YES YES YES YES"

    • @sarahschmidt2782
      @sarahschmidt2782 4 роки тому +51

      I 👏🏻 am 👏🏻 here 👏🏻 for 👏🏻 weird👏🏻 🙌🏻 💕😁

    • @nobody1k
      @nobody1k 4 роки тому +31

      Yessss! Bring on the weird! Love!

    • @januzzell8631
      @januzzell8631 4 роки тому +51

      Weird is good! Researched weird is even better :D

    • @Stettafire
      @Stettafire 4 роки тому +19

      I'm so here for this :D
      My wierdness has been browsing old metOffice data, it just makes me so happy seeing the weather changing over time and seeing people's notes about what the weather was doing. It's kinda calming. Like the weather is the one thing that will always be there, no matter how crazy the world.

    • @catzkeet4860
      @catzkeet4860 4 роки тому +7

      This is weird??......ok.......(oh and Janets UA-cam page is very cool. The styles are so interesting, particularly the information about hair sewing)

  • @h.m.d.2989
    @h.m.d.2989 4 роки тому +2467

    Ancient hairdresser - "You can have the braid or the braid."

    • @florenna
      @florenna 3 роки тому +43

      Haha, except that there weren't any hairdressers as such, everyone was their own hairdresser (the way I prefer it to be nowadays, too - who needs hairdressers?!) :D

    • @elisibethjames7488
      @elisibethjames7488 3 роки тому +73

      @@florenna I think that they know; it’s a joke

    • @thesimplifestyle2022
      @thesimplifestyle2022 3 роки тому +139

      you know what? I'm going to be bold today, I want the braid!

    • @helema23
      @helema23 3 роки тому +56

      @@florenna actually the women did each others hair...

    • @shirleybecker495
      @shirleybecker495 3 роки тому +28

      @That creepy family you're right and given the time period before 350BCE the wealthy had slaves that did everything for them.

  • @kathleenwest1463
    @kathleenwest1463 4 роки тому +1856

    Spoiler: The ancient women totally called their spiral 'doodleydoo'. Is the authentic term.

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 роки тому +272

      It is Known. 👌

    • @Mrkva22296
      @Mrkva22296 4 роки тому +11

      which ancient women? which geographical area and what language? because apparently, not all "ancient women"

    • @swamp6825
      @swamp6825 4 роки тому +73

      Slovak Vids I cant tell if you’re serious but Kathleen was joking

    • @graceignacio306
      @graceignacio306 4 роки тому +6

      Whatever it is called. I want one haha

    • @galthea
      @galthea 4 роки тому +7

      @@graceignacio306 there are some again in her etsy shop right now!

  • @emilyjanet455
    @emilyjanet455 4 роки тому +1481

    Morgan: "Graves are the COOLEST THING"
    Me: Morgan Donner x Caitlin Doughty Historical Fashion in Graves collab????

    • @sunriseeyes0
      @sunriseeyes0 4 роки тому +42

      OMG YES THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!!!!!

    • @nicoalbarn
      @nicoalbarn 4 роки тому +21

      THAT WOULD BE AMAZING

    • @Anna-Michelle744
      @Anna-Michelle744 4 роки тому +22

      More likes for this, it must be seen

    • @4492
      @4492 4 роки тому +11

      Ooooooooh!!!! Yes please!

    • @kimberly_erin
      @kimberly_erin 4 роки тому +9

      Yessssssssss

  • @Miss65boo
    @Miss65boo 3 роки тому +456

    The heads of the pins become a beautiful addition to the hairstyles, unlike the double pin which just disappears. Very nice! Would love to have pins like those.

    • @katrina2931
      @katrina2931 3 роки тому +4

      I was thinking the same.

    • @Iera_Thaumaturgy
      @Iera_Thaumaturgy 3 роки тому +6

      Same, they’re lovely

    • @Rockieswoobie
      @Rockieswoobie 2 роки тому +1

      Same

    • @aliciacuoco8273
      @aliciacuoco8273 2 роки тому +1

      Ditto. As di I

    • @THandP_org
      @THandP_org 2 роки тому +15

      I have collections of various hair sticks, after taking Mandarin in high school (decades ago). My teacher taught history in addition to language, and if memory serves, hair stick usage and design peaked in the Song Dynasty, but date all the way back to 3000 BC😳
      Design, and how they were worn, indicated class, age, and marital status or availability.
      Royal women could be punished by having their hair sticks taken away, and married couples would break the "double stick" or Lover's Hair Stick if they had to be separated for any length of time, and then put the pieces together when finally reunited.
      Some hair sticks were worn to enhance proper posture, and coming of age ceremonies were "stick ceremonies" and a girl was gifted her first pair of hair sticks to become a woman.
      I love studying various cultures via the lens of hair...
      Lots of history in the Nations of the Southwest regarding hair, as well.

  • @hotjanuary
    @hotjanuary 4 роки тому +820

    Morgan, you are a fashion influencer. I want those pins now.

  • @dragonfireartistea
    @dragonfireartistea 4 роки тому +672

    "They're still able to... Pierce the Veil"
    Me: *flashbacks to emo/rock phase*

    • @amastyn_1106
      @amastyn_1106 4 роки тому +28

      I'm glad I'm not the only who thought of that lol

    • @sarahlabbe9779
      @sarahlabbe9779 4 роки тому +19

      I came here for that exactly

    • @Betsyschugar
      @Betsyschugar 4 роки тому +20

      the remnants of my thirteen year old self JERKED to attention

    • @rockz_in_a_box1841
      @rockz_in_a_box1841 4 роки тому +17

      Me, an alt kid: *literally chokes*

    • @ari6631
      @ari6631 4 роки тому +4

      Omg same

  • @therealbunnymix
    @therealbunnymix 4 роки тому +416

    The second hair style had me thinking, did they have hair nets at the time? Because I can see a decorative hair net being used to keep the bun in place. Like a round or square crocheted net that's a little bigger than the bun would be. Because it was made of natural fibers it wouldn't have survived in the grave.

    • @bustedkeaton
      @bustedkeaton 3 роки тому +100

      Yea of course! Even in ancient greek times they used hairnet/snoods called sakkos. Crispines i think are what they called them in western europe in the 14th c? I was talking about this with my wife last night, and I suggest the ones that people recreate as metal cages over the hair were actually beaded wire, or even just gilded thread.

    • @libbybollinger5901
      @libbybollinger5901 3 роки тому +64

      The Venus of Brassempouy, which is an ivory figurine from the Paleolothic, has been argued to represent a hairnet-type hood, and the Skrydstrup woman, a bog body from roughly 1300 BC featured a sprang (the technique) horse-hair hairnet covering her hairstyle. The Egtved Girl, a bog body estimated to be from 1370 BC, was also found with a box that contained a hairnet.

    • @corvuscorone7735
      @corvuscorone7735 3 роки тому +12

      @@libbybollinger5901 I was just going to say that sprang nets were a definite thing :D

    • @bonniehowell6604
      @bonniehowell6604 Рік тому +2

      Like a snood, used in Victorian days.

  • @agcons
    @agcons 4 роки тому +544

    Metals that oxidise often come with a protective coating applied by the manufacurer, which is meant to be removed by the final customer. I don't know about brass hair pins, but steel cookware almost always has a heavy waxy coating applied to keep the utensil in good shape during shipping and storage.

    • @kaylat.9104
      @kaylat.9104 4 роки тому +49

      This! Especially since the tarnish on brass/bronze is green and stains nicely. Hehehe

    • @Musicwarmsmysoul
      @Musicwarmsmysoul 4 роки тому +33

      Thanks for doing this. I honestly would have thought that the spring/spiral would have been a place to secure your pin ends when it's in a bun, but that wasn't what they found and you showed why. I wonder if there are examples at blacksmith shops of the same age of tools that could be used to manipulate wire quickly and easily into the spiral shapes and/or casting the pins: I can imagine ancient smithys making these out of left over bits of bronze and selling them on a little display a la scrunchies made out of quilting scraps and sold in a little display at the side of a table at a craft fair! Love the skewer pin idea. :)

    • @simplyvince1744
      @simplyvince1744 4 роки тому +11

      I was about to comment something similar. I purchased some aluminum wire (14 gauge? 12? On the heavier side anyway, something you don't usually find at craft stores) at a hardware store a few years ago and it came coated in some sort of black greasy substance. I suppose because aluminum is one of the metals that oxidizes the quickest (aluminum oxide just happens to be the same color so it isn't noticable visually) but maybe just something to do with the machines making it.

    • @Desi-qw9fc
      @Desi-qw9fc 4 роки тому +8

      You’re probably right because the coating just came off with soap and a towel (it looks like), but coatings could be deliberate too. Lots of blacksmithed items were rubbed with oil while still hot, which makes the oil soak into the oxide layer. The final object isn’t oily, but is protected from rust and handling. The same process is used these days, like you cold-blue an item to form the oxide layer and then rub it with oil. Stuff that isn’t protected like this can rust in annoying ways, like your fingerprints can rust into the surface.

  • @adorabell4253
    @adorabell4253 4 роки тому +793

    I can explain the popularity of the centre part: it's the most comfortable with long hair! Hair is heavy, so having it part in the middle puts less stress on the top of the head as both sides fall evenly instead of one side needing to go over the head and have the hair pull that bit of scalp up. Plus, more hairstyles are possible.

    • @windyhawthorn7387
      @windyhawthorn7387 3 роки тому +39

      That makes sense. I have had an center part my whole life. And if I try to move it or brush it out It hurts.

    • @emilychb6621
      @emilychb6621 3 роки тому +6

      But if the pony tail is in the centers wouldn't the hair all just go back as well?
      Like I just brush the hair all over straight back and then tie it.
      There's no central gap where you can see the scalp, but the hair are still mostly parallel.

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 3 роки тому +15

      @@emilychb6621 It might work if you always did that but I feel like it would only work for a high pony tail or braid. I'm not sure, though, since I have always had a part so I can't test it, my hair will just want to fall sideways.
      What's interesting is that I've recently chopped my hair off into a bob and changed the part. It took a few days for it to settle down and even after it kept migrating back towards the centre. I've had to re-do the part a few times.

    • @carolilseanne2175
      @carolilseanne2175 3 роки тому +6

      Easier when it's long to do 2 halves of hair than one - you don't have your arms up so uncomfortably! 😊😊

    • @J0k394
      @J0k394 3 роки тому +2

      Hm. Uneven split braids are uncomfortable, but for a ponytail or single braid straight back puts least pressure on my hair.

  • @Ghostofthegallow
    @Ghostofthegallow 4 роки тому +663

    "you can't pin through the ear"
    Me. With multiple piercings: is that a challenge

    • @amyjones2490
      @amyjones2490 4 роки тому +102

      Maybe thats how ear piercing started. A misplaced hair pin.

    • @nicoalbarn
      @nicoalbarn 4 роки тому +25

      @@amyjones2490 that sounds like something I would do (I'm very clumsy)

    • @athenadominguezcastillo2752
      @athenadominguezcastillo2752 4 роки тому +10

      This is hilarious, I'm surprised she didn't see this and like it XD

    • @GamerNerdess
      @GamerNerdess 4 роки тому +10

      Why did I read that in the voice of Mufasa? 🤣

    • @djterry1218
      @djterry1218 3 роки тому +3

      @@GamerNerdess hahahah😂😂😂 mUfasA likEs GrAvEs

  • @LisaJPStuff
    @LisaJPStuff 4 роки тому +195

    As a person who went off to study archaeology for 4 years, specifically because I was obsessed with the Celts from Halstatt to late La Tene, I love you. Thanks for doing this.

  • @lisasternenkind6467
    @lisasternenkind6467 3 роки тому +133

    Here are some of my ideas, not so many though (sorry):
    What if they wrapped the end braided hair sort of around the coil you made, instead of pulling their end of the hair through the whole coil? Hallstatt in Austria is known for a huge Celtic settlement over a very long period of time. I am Austrian and have dug into this old culture when I was still living close to Hallstatt. These people also did almost everything by incorporating salt. They even made ice using salt. So it could also be possible, that women from those days used salt dissolved in water to kind of thicken their hair or prepare the hair for better use with these pins and the coil. Salt crystals behave similar to sugar crystals when dry and hard.
    Or maybe the coil was more a cultural or a decorating object with only a little functional use as a tool? We must not forget, that the Hallstatt Celts were extremely rich due to their salt. Their society was a thriving society, that also brought up lots of arts and many more cultural objects. Because of the salt they had many contacts to other people and so we maybe also need to have a closer look at how the Germanic women wore their hair in those days. We also know, that salt and gold from the celts in Hallstatt were found in the north, also in graves. They must have influenced one another also concerning their styles. Are there similar findings in the north of Europe? I read recently, that again new graves and also rune stones were found.

    • @iHadSomethingForThis
      @iHadSomethingForThis 2 роки тому +10

      This deserves a lot more likes than the one I can give

    • @ashleyduckworthyt3224
      @ashleyduckworthyt3224 2 роки тому +10

      I agree about the coil thing. In MY brain, they would’ve pulled the end of the braid through the end like she did but then wrap the end sticking out around the coil.

    • @lisasternenkind6467
      @lisasternenkind6467 2 роки тому +3

      @@ashleyduckworthyt3224 Right

    • @ah5721
      @ah5721 Рік тому +2

      in aloe growing places it make excellent gell, in other places some gelatinous seeds like flax and can be turned into gell too, not to mention grease with perfume = pomade then use a fine flouer as oil absorber and viola stiff hair !

  • @DodiTov
    @DodiTov 4 роки тому +500

    As a hairdresser in the late 60s and mid 70s, when you said criss cross pins, I immediately thought of the placement in a classic French twist. We would place one pin at an angle downward, then pin very near in an upward slant. This would lock the pins in the hair and they would NOT come out. While you worked with braids exclusively, I would think that a simple twisted hair coil would have been entirely possible with the pins securing it up the center of the head, rather like a hot dog bun. Stupid visual, but you get the idea.

    • @TempestPhaedra
      @TempestPhaedra 4 роки тому +20

      definitely going to try crossing my pins like that next time I attempt a french twist. It's my favorite style but I gotta do it over and over until it finally holds because I haven't figured out optimal placement yet

    • @user-dg7st6io1c
      @user-dg7st6io1c 4 роки тому +7

      @@TempestPhaedra My wife use a hair rat for her French twist, it helps with her thin hair she said. Maybe it might help you too.

    • @m.maclellan7147
      @m.maclellan7147 4 роки тому +11

      My hair is thick and heavy. To do any updo my hair needs to be damp and twisted.

    • @pauletier62
      @pauletier62 4 роки тому +31

      I am a trained hairdresser and the crossing-the-pins is like the most mandatory thing about bridal updos. :D

    • @debraadkins-brown399
      @debraadkins-brown399 4 роки тому

      Yes!

  • @Celebrinthal
    @Celebrinthal 4 роки тому +250

    The other day I had my husband buy salt. When he brought it home I glanced at the package and exclaimed with delight: "You bought period accurate salt!" Yes, the salt mines in Hallstatt still operate today ;) Fantastic video! These pins and spiral look so good in a bun, omg, I need them (and your thickness of hair to be able to use them)

    • @melanieg.9092
      @melanieg.9092 3 роки тому +9

      As an Austrian from the area we usually go there on grade school trips and this salt is in nearly every home ;)

  • @tarabound
    @tarabound 4 роки тому +596

    I want to point out the
    painstaking process the archaeologist put in to bring you that information. Admire the excavation work that brought you the exact configuration of these really tiny pins in situ. The archaeologist had to kneel with a trowel, and probably a dental pick, to slowly uncover each of these pins without moving them so they could see exactly how they were positioned.
    Not only were they photographed, then they were drawn in the excavation to make sure it was all captured correctly (making assumptions) I have looked at the article, but I haven't read a translation yet, but there were a lot of great diagrams.
    I also want to bring this PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE: Context is fundamental. Artifacts out of context are pretty---pretty damn useless. Looters are monsters. If they had found this site before trained scientists, all of this would have been lost. To repeat: artifact thieves are monsters.
    (I LOVE THAT YOU HAD THESE PINS MADE---THAT IS SO COOL)

    • @tracynail4432
      @tracynail4432 4 роки тому +44

      Absolutely they are! When I was hiking in Arizona (can’t remember where) we had to call a number and report our location and our find, and sit and wait for them to show up, if we found anything at all artifacty. If it wasn’t anything worth while, you could potentially keep it. I have a piece of clay with a cross on it, about the size of my thumb. Most of the time, we had to turn things over.

    • @drhelenloney1426
      @drhelenloney1426 4 роки тому +36

      yes, the care and time it took to excavate the Hallstadt graves in the 19th century was astonishing. Metal detecting, sorry folks, would have removed these without even realizing they were attached to a person, nine times out of ten. See what careful excavation brings you?

    • @athenadominguezcastillo2752
      @athenadominguezcastillo2752 4 роки тому +2

      Since they were metals could they have scanned the area with slight radiation first and found the metal in the pins, figured out their placement, and then carefully and painstakingly pulled them out?

    • @tarabound
      @tarabound 4 роки тому +18

      @@athenadominguezcastillo2752 ​
      I don't know if the technology is able to have that detailed a view. The majority of work we do is with ground penetrating radar, it can give us ideas for large things, but nothing small. Even when we do have the GPR, we can't see anything while we are there. It has to be taken back to a strong computer and each bit of the image has to be compiled.
      A second problem is, even if technology that is able to pinpoint such small objects is available, most archaeologists do not have the budget to have access to that equipment.
      Usually, the old fashion way is the only way.
      That being said, we do have some really cool equipment we can use sometimes. Laser scanning the environment can give us some really cool 3D images that we can virtually walk through later, the GPR I mentioned lets us know if an area contains structures or burials (we are currently using the GPR here in Florida to look for disappeared Historical Black cemeteries--to help correct racist injustices of the past), we have photogrametery (in which we can take a bunch of pictures of an artifact and then print a 3d copy of it from those pictures).
      Ok, i will stop now.....can't tell I love this stuff, can you?

    • @drhelenloney1426
      @drhelenloney1426 4 роки тому +3

      Ares Dominguez Castillo not really, because the technology doesn’t yet allow 3D reconstruction at the same fine detail as by habd

  • @hellformichelle
    @hellformichelle 4 роки тому +308

    I'm an archaeology student at the university of Vienna, and I've actually had the pleasure to look at many of these grave goods irl. I'm so excited about this video.
    Side note: I'm pretty certain that these pins weren't a day to day thing, since women were actively working in the salt mines (we can see that from marks on the skeletons from the grave field) as the people who carried the 'backpacks' (also very interesting to google since we have some amazingly preserved ones) full of ore out of the mine, but to my knowledge, we don't know of hairpins or the spirals found in the mines, and they seem to be something that at least from time to time would be lost on the way out of a dark cave. So yeah, I feel like they're more of a special occasion thing.

    • @aliciaolivas797
      @aliciaolivas797 3 роки тому +34

      Interesting. I think that ribbon was probably used to tie the ends of the hair or possibly hair stick like pins made from wood for bringing the hair up. More than likely is they probably had their hair tucked into a snug cap to keep their hair clean. Who knows, but it’s always interesting to theorize about.

    • @KelseyDrummer
      @KelseyDrummer 3 роки тому +5

      That's really cool. Thanks for commenting! :)

    • @riverjohnson6024
      @riverjohnson6024 3 роки тому +19

      I think maybe too the pins were used in a way that was both functional and decorative. Sort of evenly placed around the head with the tops of the pins showing instead of unevenly placed for only functionality. It would explain why some had so many in the grave when about 8 would be more than enough to hold the hair?

    • @JK-vi9gd
      @JK-vi9gd 2 роки тому +14

      Maybe for poorer people they were made out of wood and are not preserved today? The hair must have been kept up somehow for working and keeping it clean.

    • @fuzzytheduck
      @fuzzytheduck 2 роки тому +2

      Do you think they were purely funerary or the women were buried in their formal wear?

  • @chaostiverdant6196
    @chaostiverdant6196 4 роки тому +314

    I love how Punk the heads of the pins look. Jumping on the alternate use method for the coil: If the top spirals are pulled apart a little it could be screwed into the braid along the length of the braid. Super secure; I use modern hair screws like this.

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 роки тому +64

      Very true! It reminds me very much of modern spin pins. The extant ones are all a bit too tightly coiled for that though, so I wanted to try it as the research suggested. It would be fun to try it again with loser coils though!

    • @prosie1968
      @prosie1968 4 роки тому +15

      I thought something similar like sliding the hair perpendicular to the spiral then you could role up the hair and weave the pin behind. Sort of like a French twist.

    • @katherinemargeson8082
      @katherinemargeson8082 4 роки тому +4

      A looser coil also works as a kind of screw to hold a bun or updos in place like the modern spin pin

    • @birdyfeederz7940
      @birdyfeederz7940 3 роки тому

      @@katherinemargeson8082 spin pins are the only ones that hold on my hair. I'm interested to try a wire spiral to tie the end

  • @Rotten_Ralph
    @Rotten_Ralph 4 роки тому +227

    I’m in for bog body hair styles... grave hair sounds fantastic
    Edit: love Janet Stephens
    Put one of the pins inside the spiral and it will stay better... I’ve done that for years

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 роки тому +35

      I did play with that and it totally does help! (And I love Janet Stephens so much!!! ❤)

    • @MusesWhim
      @MusesWhim 4 роки тому +8

      I personally really enjoy when my hair tutorial starts by talking about corpses. Have you watched Silvousplait's videos? ua-cam.com/video/Jj1mPtlmTZU/v-deo.html

  • @LacrimaPhoenix
    @LacrimaPhoenix 4 роки тому +330

    For my wedding, I wanted to add pearls to my hair.
    All the modern options (spirals and U-Pins with pearls) didn't quite do the trick for me, because I couldn't quite control were the pearls would finally end up in my hairstyle, because the pearl would be sunken in to the hair. On the other hand, if the position of the pearl was perfect, often parts of the pin or the spiral would peak out and who wants that in their wedding hair...
    So I resorted to the simple long, single pin presented here. I got a bunch of pearled ones from a flower shop where they are often used for bouquets and such things. They were super cheap and work amazingly well! Might also be an option if someone wants to give it a try :)
    If I wanna look festive, I use these pins and find them so easy and secure to use :)

    • @imasinnerimasaint
      @imasinnerimasaint 4 роки тому +8

      That's a great idea!

    • @teresaellis7062
      @teresaellis7062 3 роки тому +7

      Oooh, I will see if the local flower shop has some! I don't usually wear jewelry, but I like your idea.

    • @riverkoi8707
      @riverkoi8707 3 роки тому +1

      This is such a good idea omg!

    • @KelseyDrummer
      @KelseyDrummer 3 роки тому +2

      I used those spiral pearls in my grad hair and I felt they were too sunk in. I may hunt down those floral ones! Just for fun though because I don't go to fancy places lol

    • @LacrimaPhoenix
      @LacrimaPhoenix 3 роки тому +3

      @@KelseyDrummer Never too late to have a fancy trick up your sleeve. Who knows what they might be good for :)

  • @amberm2777
    @amberm2777 3 роки тому +61

    So I am a metal smith and I am super excited to forge some of these items! I've been trying to make historical items like fibula and penannular Broochs, roman style rings and slide pins, now I can add these to my list!

    • @beemel5734
      @beemel5734 Рік тому +2

      Do you have an etsy page, perchance? I've been searching for some nice looking braid/plait fasteners, like the coil one she has here, but they either have no hole at the end of the tip for a bit of braid end to come out, or they aren't tapered at all, rather designed for adorning locs. Which...I'm white, so I don't feel comfy about that, lol
      And also, I'm afraid that my hair texture, while still thick and curly, is a little too fine to hold up a thick iron coil, as I've seen in some shops.
      I'm trying to get away from using elastics because I've heard they're not the greatest for healthy curls, plus I'd like to imbue my beauty routines with a bit more of the culture of my various peoples. Being largely of Scottish and Danish ancestry (and knowing how much the Celts and Vikings LOVED self adornment) I feel like this would be the perfect fit for hair like mine, since it's probably pretty similar to hair textures they would've had (def in Scotland)!
      Let me know if you do have a shop anywhere online, and if you've made any braid fasteners like the ones shown in the vid! I'd be happy to give them a whirl!

    • @infamyinfamy
      @infamyinfamy Рік тому

      @@beemel5734 me too I'd love the coils to wear on the ends of my plaits.

    • @garnettekken
      @garnettekken 6 місяців тому

      I would also like to know if you have a shop as my hair is now long enough that i wear it in two braids

  • @RavenAttwoode
    @RavenAttwoode 4 роки тому +359

    Lol! Mandatory head shake for long hair updos 😄 I really like those pins. This was a really fun video/hair/experiment!

    • @MorganDonner
      @MorganDonner  4 роки тому +71

      One must shake one's head about to establish the viability of the bun. *shake shake shake*

    • @Olson185
      @Olson185 4 роки тому +7

      @@MorganDonner Disco trauma flashback with KC & the Sunshine Band, ugh!

    • @TheHopeDreier
      @TheHopeDreier 4 роки тому +10

      Untraumatised flashback to disco, which was a whole lot of fun, back in the day.

    • @RavenAttwoode
      @RavenAttwoode 4 роки тому +12

      I know all too well the necessity of the shake! My hair is past my waist and I have to do this any time I put my hair up too. 😁

    • @juliemiller9258
      @juliemiller9258 4 роки тому +13

      hair shakes were mandatory before ballet class. Not good to have your hair escape and ruin the line of your body. lol