Let’s Talk TT Ep1
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2024
- An introduction to a relaxed chat about TT120, something myself and Greg from @MacTrains have been discussing for a while now. Hopefully in the future we might attract some guests from the industry.
Links to channels referenced or content used here;
@mactrains
@modeloco
@JenniferEKirk
@IronHorseRailways
@ChadwickModelRailway
@HornbyModelRailways
@SamsTrains
@zipdiskdude (Chee Tor)
@simonkohler1717
@MouldyRaspberry
@ThisWayWorksTWW
Great to read all these comments. Very kind folks. Drop any suggestions you have to Peachy in the comments. And watch this space for more…!
A great interesting talk guys, looking forward to next time. I also have everything Hornby have brought out in TT so far and can't wait for more ! TT has brought me back to the hobby having had OO gauge years ago.
This is exactly what we want to hear Rick. Thanks for watching.
Cheers Rick 🍻
Cheers Peachy & Greg, a brilliant video & discussion. I enjoy the vids from both your channels👍
Excellent 👌
Id be happy to chat mate - hopefully folks will listen 😂
Oh definitely, me & Greg would love to have you on.
I second that!
Hi guys, I've been a railway modeller for years,(never got it right yet), mostly OO scale, but I've also done N scale, as well as TT120(German outline), and,as become older, I've found that N scale is becoming too fiddly, TT120 is a lovely scale to work with, I can recommend Gary Halls channel to anyone looking for inspiration,he has produced some superb models, anyway take care, all the best from Scotland Stephen.
Thanks for this Stephen - Garry does have some super stuff posted.
Great video! I like the concept. Please make more of these.
Cheers 🍻, will do
Hi Chris & Greg. I like this type of video and would like to see more, with interviews with people from the industry/community. Heljan: Many (most) reviews of Heljan products haven't been too favourable, although some of their newer products have fared better than their earlier ones. I couldn't really understand their "there are no winners, only losers" reason for not entering the TT:120 marketplace. OK, maybe not producing "identical" models as other manufactures, but they still want to compete in a rapidly saturated OO market. Simon Kohler: I would love to hear a fair and unbiased assessment (from anyone) as to whether things have improved at Hornby since Simon's departure and if they have, was this just happenstance or does his replacement just have better ideas? We, who do model in TT:120, do have a lot to thank Simon for when he reintroduced the TT scale (albeit in a different, but better(?) form).
Thanks Paul, yes we’ve got a couple of industry people that we’re talking to about being interviewed. Understandably, they wanted to see what we’re up to before committing, so hopefully comments like yours will help them decide (to accept our invitations)
Hi Peachy, I love your TT120 channel. I live in a 1 bed flat & do n gauge but I'd love to try TT120 gauge. Simon at Hornby had such a brainwave with this! This is definitely the way to go, especially as a lot of people living in smaller properties these days! Both double O gauge & n gauge are not quite realistic in size but from what I understand TT120 is spot on with the scale! I would love to try TT120 scale! I'm so glad different model railway channels are covering this! We definitely need TT120 in the UK! My full support to Hornby with this! I'll definitely get myself a TT120 train set at some point & when I can afford it.👍
Cheers 🍻
Hi Chris and Greg. Very much enjoyed your chat. You raised some good points and topics.
I got into TT because my OO layout which is situated in an outhouse in the garden is mainly steam era based. I always wanted a separate 1980s/1990s era layout to run diesels and electrics but never had the space. I did consider N at one point but not having very good eyesight I'd probably find it too small and fiddly. So when Hornby announced their plans to introduce TT I thought it would be a great compromise. So what did I buy?! More Gresley Pacifics! 😂 But I have got the BR blue 08 and have recently come into possession of the lovely swallow livery HST with rake of Mk3s. So I've a 6×4 baseboard set up in my spare bedroom and am beginning to design and build a continuous double track circuit. I have Hornby's Settle & Carlisle station so will try and base it on a fictional village/small town along the S&C which is one of my favourite routes. For the curved sections I plan to use Hornby's 4th radius setrack as the inner radius then make a 5th radius with Peco's flexible track. That should just about fit into the 4ft width and give the effect of some reasonably gentle curves. So plenty to keep me occupied in my retirement! My OO layout is also crying out for a good rebuild. The track is still the old steel track and needs replacing. A lot of it is 1st and 2nd radius curves too which I'd like to move away from using.
Regarding the young man with his trains on the carpet. Well he definitely seems to know his stuff regarding the mechanics and electrics of the models but I completely disagree with many of his reviews. Sometimes its like he buys models he doesn't like the look of just to trash them in a review. If you don't like a model or if its not your thing why waste your money on it? But he's entitled to express his opinions I suppose. I just feel he can be fer too negative.
From the new announcements in April I'm hoping to see a few more variants of the Mk1s. My TT passengers definitely want to see a catering vehicle so a Mk1 buffet would be well received as well as maybe an open standard and first. Also more ready to plant buildings would be great. Looking forward to the Clasd 50 and I do have a Duchess on pre order though I'm trying not to duplicate my OO collection. I think everyone wants a tank loco of some sort which I'm sure will be on the horizon. Also would be good to have a hetitage DMU.
Look forward to some of your chars with other model railway UA-camrs.
Regards Rob 😊
Cheers Rob, as you say, he does know his way around a fix, which is why that’s the content of his that I watch, I try to white noise the rest. Good luck with your layout. And thanks for watching
I agree on a heritage DMU, would love to see that on my layout.
Good video, well done. Never modelled before....got hooked after seeing a promotion for tt120 on the hornby website. Ordered the catalogue and the rest is history. Own all the steam era loco's released to date and making slow progress on my layout Crescent Valley. Everything I do is for the first time so a very steep learning curve but very enjoyable. Good to watch a dedicated tt120 content vid.
Great to have your input and enthusiasm Chris. Thanks for taking time to comment.
Cheers 🍻 and welcome aboard
Great to hear from you both, and I'll second the shout out for Mouldy Raspberry, his videos were a big part in getting back into model railways, but with TT:120 being more suited to the space I had available.
I can only dream of producing running videos of his standard, I personally think they’re second to none.
Quite fond of your own stuff too @hollybushrailway. Love the sense of atmosphere.
@@PeachyTT120 He does such a brilliant job of them. It's the kind of thing I'm trying to do with the videos on my channel, very much influenced by watching his ones, will take some work to get as good as his!
@@gregmacdonald927 Cheers Greg!
@@hollybushrailway I’m going straight to your channel now 😃
Hi Chris,
Thank you for your confession about having some problems! I too have had a few issues and used to think I must be doing something wrong because Peachy doesn’t have any issues!!!
The power bank situation is my biggest issue and I will try to rectify this when (if) they become available. Some guidance on fitting them to every type of TT120 loco would be useful.
Your explanation about decoders cutting out when any wheel signals a loss of contact explained a lot!
Thanks to you both for this video!
Cheers
David
Cheers David, Greg & I are trying to be as honest & reflective as possible without exaggerating an issue as we can’t see any benefit in that. As for the loss of Bluetooth connectivity, it’s purely based on mine & others experience rather than a firm technical knowledge
Thoroughly enjoyable watch. Cheers
Thank you
Well done lads, enjoyed very much listening to your reasons for starting your TT journey. I had a hornby 3 rail setup given to me by my uncle and just like the you teenage years came along. Last year I was diagnosed with cancer and while recovering from an operation was thinking I need something to occupy my time in retirement. Spent more time than normal watching TV and came across Hornby a model world and TT120. I hope to actually start the layout next month, I already have a couple of sets and other track, locos and rolling stock with more on preorder. Strangely I have the Dutches of Atholl on preorder because it reminded me of one I had. Unknown to me my brother had a load of 00 stuff from when my father passed away and there in bits was the one I had which was the Duchess of Atholl. Look forward to the next one and also your individual videos.
Cheers Gary, keep us up to date with your progress and good luck fighting the big C
Great talk, can´t wait to have more! Cheers to both of you! 🎆
Cheers 🍻
Very well done this 52.00 minutes flown by well interesting keep it coming cheers to the both of you
Top man Ian! And very well done for getting through all 52 minutes! 👏
Ian, you get the badge for persistence! 😂 Thanks for commenting. We both appreciate it
I had my first Hornby HST back in 1978, and I still remember the day I bought it. I was thrilled with it. Later in life I was lucky enough to drive Inter-City 125, and it was an utter pleasure to drive.
Now I have the new Inter-City 125, it’s definitely the best model from Hornby TT:120 and it’s probably going to be the game changer for the scale! Great video by the way! 🙂
Thanks Adrian ps I really do wish sometimes that I’d ignored my careers teacher when she told me not to be a train driver 😪
Great video both of you, some resonating points on what brought me into the hobby and good discussion points keep up the great work.
Cheers 🍻
Hi guys. I had a OO layout when I was a kid, but I have since never had the space for one. When I saw tt:120 on "hornby a model world" I thought it was brilliant. I have bought the scotsman set, Mallard, flying scotsman and HST, plus lots of rolling stock. HMDCC chips fitted to all. It's fantastic. I'm surprised Peachy, you had trouble running without the power bank. I've had no issues with mine running on the hornby track. I did have problems with Flying Scotsman, which went back to Hornby, who replaced the chip and tender bogey. It's run fine since.
Yeah the Bluetooth connectivity issue hasn’t been a problem for everyone, not sure why but I do know plenty like yourself who’ve had no issues but then as many have had my experience. Not sure if it’s software or hardware?
Great to hear your positive experience Mallard. Hornby are definitely onto something with this.
Loved listening to you guys. It was interesting to hear Peachy say it was watching the Hornby Model World programme that aroused interest in TT, as that is my story too, plus the impatient wait. As for Mac, can I have an hour or two looking through his book collection?
The books are always here anytime for perusal! Mind you it’s maybe a long way to come for a read…
Cheers Trevor
Great talk, thanks 👍
Cheers 🍻
Well done gentlemen, an excellent program. Well worth watching.
I agree with you both about the scale being the right size to make dioramas that look proportional. I'm presently working on a brewery and a colliery, both of which need room to look convincing.
I have invested in the scale(perhaps more than I'd dare admit to my wife!). I presently have 250 wagons, 20 or so coaches, all the locos and 120 yards of unpaid Peco track (it helps to have a second address when it comes to keeping SWMBO in the dark).
Keep up the good work.
PS. Thanks. The cottage and shops arrived safely.
🤣🤣🤣🤣if you don’t tell Derek, I won’t!
That sounds like it’s going to be quite a setup Derek!
Great piece,I was the same as your self watched a model world and got hooked,was thinking about 00 but when I visited a model shop was put off by n scale being to small and 00 being to big.then Simon saying they were doing tt,i thought yes,I could build a model of where I lived when I was a boy and have a hump marsheling yard,a coal pit and a village with the east coast main line with a branch line to the marsheling yard.the iceing on the cake was hm7000 to have sound without looking for numbers on a pad yes!! I’m definitely looking forward in my retirement even if I have to wait on my era stuff coming out at least I can do research on the stuff I want as it will all have to be hand made.but well done to you and Greg especially your self as you have inspired me with your u tube shows
Cheers Stewart, I know we shouldn’t wish away the years, but retirement does look like being fun!
I got my first OO set in 1982, I had the APT and a class 31 with a few wagons. It was a single loop with a few small sidings on a 6 x 4 board. Not having space and spare cash it got put away and eventually sold off. I've looked a few times at restarting but never did. In January 24 I looked and saw TT, I was a bit doubtful until I started withy the track planning software when I realised how bit it would be. I converted the layout to TT and was amazed how much I could fit into the layout, again 6 x 4. I watched your videos and modeloco which convinced me TT was for me.
I also got the Scotsman set and the Mallard, followed by the Flying Scotsman and the GBRf 08 shunter. I'm loving it, looking forward to the LMS coming out as ive always been a fan of their locos.
Those LMS locos are gorgeous, I’m so looking forward to them being released!
Simon still very enthusiastic of tt and so am i too.
A really great talk guys. i'm smiling away while listening to you. I would like to see you both talking to Andy at modelloco.
😂we wouldn’t get a word in edgeways! 🤣🤣🤣 we might do it though if he’s up for it
The idea is definitely to get other UA-camrs involved and have a format that works for folks. Andy’s videos have been great, and his intro is quite catchy too!
@@PeachyTT120the three of you dressed as Elvis would be intriging!!!
Never had much of a train set as a kid. TT120 + HM7000 has inspired me to take up the hobby.
Excellent. Welcome on board
Great to hear this Andrew - hope you enjoy it! Lots of great help and advice from helpful guys on the Hornby forum too.
Nice video lads came out well 👍
Cheers Peter
Very entertaining guys - got me through my insomnia in an entertaining way! You touched on some interesting points. I too am ordering all the stuff that comes out (credit card is heating up nicely!). I believe the scale has a future. I'd be interested to see how it may have turned Hornby around somewhat. I don't understand business but I'm guessing they have a way of separating out the figures to really examine the TT contribution. Hoping for interesting developments in the April announcements!
Peachy and I were thinking it would more likely cure any insomnia…😂 Thanks for taking time to comment.
@@gregmacdonald927 🤣
Cheers Michael
Just in from Legends of steam at the ELR . That S N G is well impressive. So is your vid 10/10
Cheers Mike
Very kind Mike - I enjoy your own content too.
@@mactrains many thanks 🙏
thanks lads .well worth doing. caroline
Cheers 🍻
Hi Guys, great show and content. We have plans for a large TT120 layout, which we will make available for other interested parties to use, our current thinking is it will be approx 5.8m x6.5m with the ability to be run as multiple Era's. I personally model German Era 1, ie Prussian railways from around the turn of the 1900's to the late 1910's, but I also have a keen eye on the British TT120, since it's redevelopment into proper scale TT120 instead of that old over sized post war scale.
I have a few people say why would you do it instead of HO, OO or smaller, I simply say I think I will be able to achieve more in the same space, most of my rolling stock is Tillig or Hadl, the quality is there in great detail, similarly the same with Hornby and Peco's new TT120 ranges.
Hopefully I will get the building the layout will be built in fully renovated this year, ready to start building the layout soon after. I'm keen for any input people would like to give, whether ideas on the layout or construction. I plan to make it a free to use to other modellers of the scale.
I have three grandsons who are slowing finding their way with the hobby, I see a great future ahead for the scale.
Now that is gonna be an epic sized layout!!! 🤩
Should allow people to run full length trains in decent scenic lengths, I am hoping to run it as Continental layout and as a British layout, hopefully by changing buildings etc to match each style ie, It would run one weekend as my German layout and the following session as a British layout, the only problem I foresee is the power control system which I can see maybe causing a few issues, Might have to operate the it with swap over system for each version.
Excellent idea. The more active involvement and hands on time people have the better. Keep us in the loop as it goes on
Hi Greg, I hope I can encourage people into the scale, I am relatively new to TT120, I have had plans for O, HO, HOm, N in the past, but no layout ever materialised for many reasons in the past, But I caught the TT120 Bug when I went to a model exhibition in Magdeburg in Germany, and the amount of TT120 layouts was incredible, from micro layouts to huge exhibition size layouts. I bought a suitcase full of models of the Tillig stand, with one of the team saying I was the " mad Englishman ", which I quite enjoyed being called Lol. I was already looking at the Hornby TT range when it was first announced, joining the club etc, but seeing what you can achieve with the scale as hooked me big time.@@mactrains
I could comment on this all day. So good. Saying all the things we are all thinking. Positive without being unrealistic. @peachy have you shared you issue with locos resetting and the power bank fix generally? This was a revelation to me. I’ve been having this problem for a while and keep getting told it’s my track work despite the fact you could eat your dinner off it! Then I had a decoder die so I ran the loco on DC. Ran perfectly. Up until your comments I couldn’t understand how a loco with so many pickups could have such problems
I have tried… hopefully Hornby will continue to produce cracking loco’s like the new HST with bags of room for a powerbank
@@PeachyTT120 did you get the information about the decoder “shutting down” if it sees a fluctuation on any of the pickups from someone at Hornby or did you work it out yourself? I’m thinking of posting about this more directly on the forum but I know I’ll get some backlash. The other problem I have is the app takes up to a minute to show it has lost connectivity to the loco which doesn’t help things
@@damianinCanadaTT-OO I think (I can’t remember exactly) that was an explanation from one of the guys in the HM7000 section of the forum. Apparently stuff has been improved regarding this issue, but I’m sticking with what works for me.
I’m holding a watching brief at the moment, it’s ideal for my needs but cries out for more manufacturers. I hope it happens before I completely lose my eyesight🤞
British N tunnels need some height/width modifications but the brick/stone looks pretty good
Yes, - the scale at that level is much more about what looks right rather than what necessarily measures to the exact millimetre.
Great video chaps ! Really enjoyed it. Intersting to hear your thoughts on Hm7000. Im currently on DC and when I finally get the TT120 layed out it will also be on DC, only because I dont have any Apple products to run the HM7000 and I know Hornby have had isses with Android compatibility. Anyway enough if my waffle. 😂 keep up the good work chaps!
Cheers 🍻
My HM7000 works well on my android phone. No problems at all.
@trevorbell3571 Hello Trevor. Thats great 👍 would you mind me asking what device you run it from? Phone or tablet ect. All i have is a fairly old Samsung phone. All the best. Martin
@@shedmouthjunction I have a Google pixel phone and just downloaded the app, linked the loco to my phone and chuffed away.
@trevorbell3571 Excellent stuff, thank you. In which case, ill give it a go and drag myself to the 'new age' 😂
The reaction of OO modellers to TT:120 is interesting. If any other companies selling OO had announced TT:120 I don’t think there would have been much reaction. Hornby are OO. They supply everything, track, locos, stock and controllers. So if they introduce another scale might they be about to abandon OO? Of course not, but there is a lot of insecurity in many people’s lives.
I think this theory does play out - when Peco and Heljan announced their initial foray into this scale very little negativity was mooted. On the other hand I agree that 00 and Hornby are virtually synonymous - so can understand folk wanting reassurance that this is not a total about-face Hornby but merely an "addition to", instead of a "replacement of", 00. Thanks for watching!
HM7000 is a unique product and has no competition at the price. If only Hornby would support developers by releasing a dev kit so that people could write their own sound and loco profiles. That would make it attractive way beyond UK models.
That said, classic DCC command stations are incredibly cheap these days if you're willing to do a little assembly yourself. I put one together in under an hour last week with full smartphone wifi control. It cost under £30.
That would be very interesting - however I think that the tech overheads must be quite high. Not sure that they have the resources for such an endeavour. Though I'd love to see some basic slave control units with physical tactile knobs and buttons.
some of the tt3 community are still upset but the committee are more inspired and we are getting new members from this too.
Great to hear this. More folk into the hobby is great. Whatever the scale!
The difference is, I’ve not heard any of the TT3mm gang being rude or abusive, disappointed yes, which I totally understand.
locos needed will be 5xgronks,2 x50s,Bittern, 5x66 and 2 hsts. Also need 2x overground trains, 1x west coach set and other bits. need 20 ttas, and masses of box wagons and 2x freight liner trains.
That’s quite some wish list Caroline! 🤩
hopefully get west hill wagon works on your show.
Good idea, they have been on our minds. Watch this space…
Hi guys.. one thing I could do with is a video on layout sizes can only find limited information out there . I can find loads of plans for ho 6ft by 4ft. But what size would one of those be in TT120?
Hello Philip, have you seen the latest Hornby catalogue? They’ve added a few pages of extensive track info.
See here; ua-cam.com/video/YGvpFmHz3OY/v-deo.htmlsi=LW6itI6u5bMn4h3D
@PeachyTT120 thanks but I don't have the magazine and it does not appear on their website and Hornby charge £15 to post the regular catalogue to Ireland.. it was a suggestion for content as I found very little out there.. not sure what size your camalot layout was/is.. some of the layouts in the video link you shared looked interesting
@@philipbowes4136 It is definitely a gap for now but if you go to the Hornby forum, to the TT120 section, there is a thread there with layout suggestions. Hope that helps.
Hello Peachy & Mac, new subscriber here.
I keep feeling tempted by TT:120 after many years struggling with UK N and then trying to do a OO Layout (as I am currently) and there are things that I am still unsure about. If I may ask?
As a Inglenook was mentioned, what is coupling/uncoupling like - how easy is it say compared to a Tension Lock?
I have 3 locos, 2 coaches and 2 wagons suitable for my new OO and in my current space would still only have the room for an end to end layout which is a shame as looking at the dimensions needed for the train set I am only 17cm off the width needed whilst being 30cm over the length, unless I could make a removable section I guess,
anyway I am hovering around the Duchess class but as a GWR fan first and foremost I have been eager to see the Pannier that they announced way back when haha! I did ask at the Gaydon show and was told by the chap there (can't think of his name) to keep my eye out early this year so not sure if the J50 is instead of or what but I would be willing to dip my toe in if the coupling situation is not too bad and the Duchess has the all important front coupler!
Thank You
Christopher
Hi Christopher. Shunting is absolutely possible. And even enjoyable in TT. Peachy has a video on couplings, but for myself I confess I am perfectly content with the Hornby TT coupling. I’ve even done a very brief video on MacTrains showing a little Inglenook style challenge. Some minor hiccups, but then I have that in OO too! Don’t let it hold you back at all.
@@gregmacdonald927 Hello Greg, thank you I have found the videos and taken the plunge into my own TT:120 journey with Duchess of Atholl and 2 coaches plus a tanker I liked the look of on order. Nervous but excited I must say. I have also started working my way through both your and Peachy's videos now 🙂 All the Best - Christopher
@@christophershobbyblog Not long to wait for the Duchesses now!
hi both. Acton Wells is 20ft long so will be able to run long trains too.
Is Acton Wells your TT layout?
3mm layouts are nailsworth, gloucester power station and tt120 is Acton Wells as per your photos. specialise in big layouts built of real places. Worksop yard in going to be tt120 too.
hopefully see you at Bristol show.
Hornby's TT120 models are undoubtedly nicely made.
The key problem for me is the price as Kato N is the main competition and offers some of the best value in all of model railways. 2-6-0 Japanese steam tender loco with lighting? £60. Rake of four coaches with switchable tail lights? £33. Swiss Glacier Express train with electric loco, five panorama coaches plus buffet car? £100. Shunter plus two wagons ? £15.
Plus Kato's unitrack system is much better for a "tabletop" layout as it is designed for temporary layouts in Japanese apartments which are even smaller than UK ones. It has built in track bed and snaps together firmly so is very tolerant of less than perfect surfaces. All the rolling stock above goes round a 15cm radius curves. A basic oval of that is £15.
Yes the Kato stuff is very competitively priced
Great video, Thanks guys. Hope to see loads more. Only minor gripe is Peachy's audio quality. Need to buy a decent microphone.
I know…..