Jacob Frye - The Misunderstood Assassin | Character Analysis

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  • @xbvegas4273
    @xbvegas4273 4 роки тому +365

    I feel so bad for Jacob, no one ever takes him serious and he is always yelled at even when he tries his best, in the final of sequence 9 he is thrown around and hurt and neither Evie or Greenie ever goes to help him. All of that just for him to get killed by the one he loved most.

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  4 роки тому +51

      What do you mean about Sequence 8? Do you mean in Sequence 9 during the boss battle? Because Evie does help him?
      And he doesn't get killed? He's still alive at the end of Syndicate?
      Sorry, I am confused

    • @xbvegas4273
      @xbvegas4273 4 роки тому +12

      Oh ya you are right it was sequence 9, also he got killed by Jack in the DLC

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  4 роки тому +92

      He didn't get killed by Jack, he's still alive :) We see this at the end

    • @astamasnow
      @astamasnow 4 роки тому +44

      @Shaheem Grimes Gokuson Nope, Paul confirmed that that was just a bruise, he's still got both of his eyes

    • @k-beat2990
      @k-beat2990 3 роки тому +14

      @Ciel Phantomhive Gokuson He's eyes was just badly wounded...Jack didn't cut out his eye

  • @jbird3511
    @jbird3511 2 роки тому +158

    I actually preferred him over Evie, he’s one of my top three favorite Assassins.. Thanks for doin him some justice, he be gettin too much hate…

  • @libbyuniverse9509
    @libbyuniverse9509 4 роки тому +222

    Love the character analysis, this man needs love

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  4 роки тому +10

      Thank you!! And yeah, he really does

    • @whitemamba0089
      @whitemamba0089 7 місяців тому

      Facts both of em tbh there over looked as ppli think most ppl rank them last from the main titles

  • @harrisonperks9420
    @harrisonperks9420 2 роки тому +100

    That moment he hesitates with Roth. That split second you see his eyes widen as he looks at him. That was the point he saw everything he didn't want to be and to see the hope removed from hopeful eyes shook me for the rest of the game

  • @NecromancerBree
    @NecromancerBree 2 роки тому +35

    This video is genuinely amazing to see a positive side of Jacob for once, rather than just going on about how he's just a trickster guy or how he's a fool. It's refreshing

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому +2

      Glad you liked it :) Thanks for watching

  • @gerardfallon2845
    @gerardfallon2845 3 роки тому +68

    It's nice to see so much love for Jacob with the fans. He has a bad name on most channels I've seen but I was like 12 when I played syndicate and I loved Jacob. I thought he was like a cheeky action hero.

  • @kostas8537
    @kostas8537 2 роки тому +33

    This were exactly my thoughts about Jacob omg I've never seen someone see him like I did.
    I would like to note that Ethan was *probably* not homophobic as the Assassins in general are very progressive
    I would also like to add something. A general critique that Jacob gets is that his jokes are childish don't land so he's a bad comedic character but I always thought it was part of his charm? His humour is childish and sometimes even cringy but he's confident and proud of it. Jacob never thinks of what ppl would say/think of him and it reflects on his humour, saying every dumb thing he wants to say

    • @kelsey1406
      @kelsey1406 2 роки тому +6

      I honestly think it may be a coping mechanism. Jacob kind of strikes me as an, “I’m going to get you before you get me”, kind of person.

  • @brapbrapson944
    @brapbrapson944 7 місяців тому +5

    What you said at 11:35 about “Knowing before you know” is spot on, probably the best way I’ve ever heard that feeling described. I always knew, long before I really knew. It’s one of those things that can define your life’s path depending on how you’re able to put it together and come to terms with it

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  7 місяців тому +1

      For sure, definitely. I'm glad it resonated

  • @stolas3049
    @stolas3049 3 роки тому +45

    I'm so glad you're doing Jacob justice, he honestly deserves it. While you were taking about Jacob being a mature Master Assassin in the Jack The Ripper DLC you said you had many theories about the DLC as a whole, and I was wondering if you would still be up to doing a video on your theories? Sorry if it sounds a bit forceful or something, I'm just really interested.

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому +10

      Aww, thank you, glad I can do him justice!!
      I don't think I'd do a video now... but I remember wanting to do a video on the concept that Jack had tweaked his fear bombs and that something to do with that had caused his mental health problems. I can't remember much of my thoughts now, I'd have to check notes, but yeah, not sure I'd be up for a video like that now :) Sorry :(

  • @TheNerdyArcher
    @TheNerdyArcher 3 роки тому +103

    I never really considered that most of the game's writing is probably from Evie's perspective before - but when you think about it, that arguably makes so much more sense! Both in and out of the AC Universe when you look at the development of the game and how Evie was originally meant to be the only character for a long time.
    Also we see Evie be more brash and jumping at opportunities than Jacob during cutscenes as well! Just look at when she meets Dickens and Marx - need I also mention the road rage-y quotes?!
    (also Jacob *really* needs a hug ngl. He deserves complete happiness)
    A superb video all around 1000/10!

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому +4

      Thank you!
      Oh the road rage-y quotes, like on the carriages? Because I love the comparison between Jacob being soft with the horses vs Evie shouting at them ajhgdfj it really shows their personalities well I think.
      And yeah you're so right about her jumping at opportunities, especially with Marx when Jacob says they should talk about it first before saying sod it :P
      And yeah, he really does need a hug!!

    • @chrismoore5333
      @chrismoore5333 2 роки тому +1

      Most the game can't be from Evies point of view. We're in an Animus, and Jacob has like 2 thirds of the story. So if anything, most the game is from Jacob's point of view. Evie only has 11 missions in the story. Really, the main game is about Jacob, and the Jack the ripper DLC is about Evie. Also most the details and depth about Jacob and his story, aren't seen by Evie. Not ever. She literally doesn't notice his struggle. So the game can't be from her point of view, in any regard.

  • @caitlinmcaleese5621
    @caitlinmcaleese5621 3 роки тому +15

    This is amazing omg, I’ve never realised how much of a father Jacob was to the other assassins he trained, your character analysis was great!! It deserves so much more attention 😍

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому +2

      Ahh sorry I didn't reply to this ages ago, but thank you very much :D

  • @BaselardFE
    @BaselardFE Рік тому +16

    I didn't catch on to Jacob being bi the first time I played it, but in hindsight it makes so much sense. Wonderful analysis! I already like him a lot, but now he's definitely one of my favourite Assassins :D

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for watching!! :)

  • @revencovictor370
    @revencovictor370 4 роки тому +44

    I really love your channel, found it recently when I looked up the sacred phrase "Jaskier bi icon"

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  4 роки тому +3

      Wow!! Thank you so much!! :D
      That is indeed a sacred phrase ;)

    • @tekakiuluy3221
      @tekakiuluy3221 3 роки тому +3

      You made me notice it's the same channel X) I would have never figured that out X)

  • @SpoonLegend
    @SpoonLegend 3 роки тому +29

    This sucks because this guy was one of the first characters they introduced that felt like a character and there is no character continuation because of how bad the story writing is.

  • @badlotusxo
    @badlotusxo 10 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for understanding him. I hate when people say that he is stupid.

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  10 місяців тому

      I'm glad you think I understand him :) Yeah, I really hate it too

  • @IfChrisThenMueller
    @IfChrisThenMueller 5 місяців тому +5

    You think differently than others, i appreciate that. Thank you for explaining jacob like you did, i never thought he and I were one and the same

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  5 місяців тому +2

      Awww thank you :D I'm glad you liked it

    • @IfChrisThenMueller
      @IfChrisThenMueller 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Kateis_ you're welcome 😁

  • @CometCopy
    @CometCopy Рік тому +4

    This is still one of the best video game character analysis videos, I've ever watched.

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  Рік тому

      Thank you so much! I'm very glad :)

  • @navissiren
    @navissiren Рік тому +6

    Cannot express to you how much I enjoyed your analysis. Jacob seems to be the most hated and loved Assassin in the fandom at the same time, at least from what I've seen. I think it's very good that you talked about Jacob's Bisexuality IN DETAIL, instead of just brushing it off or thinking that it makes no sense or that it's unnecessary. It adds SO MUCH MORE depth than he already has lurking underneath his charm, witty humor and chaotic personality. Anyway, I'm off to reading more Jacob/Freddy fics. 🤌

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  Рік тому +1

      Aww thank you so much! Yeah man his bisexuality is so so important, and I really dislike whenever someone brushes it off for sure. Have fun reading fics :D

  • @Michelletto0
    @Michelletto0 Рік тому +10

    This is 2 years later, But I really want to thank you for doing this for our boy Jacob, Assassin's Creed Syndicate was my first game and I instantly fell in love with him. Some people call him a Idiot and that really saddens me because he isn't one. He really tries his hardest and he likes joking around, If both Evie and Jacob were serious it wouldn't be as nice to see them interact, Jacob's more fun personality is what I like most about him, So once again I thank you. May The Creed Guide You.

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  Рік тому +2

      Thank you so much :D Im glad I could do this then :)

  • @aliceliddell9329
    @aliceliddell9329 3 роки тому +20

    Thank you so much for this analysis! I remember before playing the game I had friends telling me they loved Evie and disliked Jacob, so playing the game I was surprised to feel myself relating to Jacob so much and really liking his parts. He's one of my fave assassins, and you worded perfectly why :)

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому

      Oh awesome, thank you so much for watching! :D

  • @AndreaMosteiro02
    @AndreaMosteiro02 8 днів тому +1

    I think I'm a bit late, but I still want to thank you for this wonderful analysis. I recently finished playing Syndicate for the first time and I cannot express with words how much I love him! I really don't get why everyone hates him so much. He doesn't deserve it, people just don't bother trying to understand him. So it made me so happy to see you analyzing him and his behaviour with so much detail and care. I'm really grateful for this 20 minutes of blessing, loving and appreciating Jacob Frye 💕💕

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 години тому +1

      Never too late!!! Thank you for watching and I'm glad I did him justice for you :)💕

  • @ghost_ghoulies3290
    @ghost_ghoulies3290 3 роки тому +19

    Imma be honest I wasn’t expecting this but I love this so much. You summarised my thoughts so perfectly.

  • @anishkalsi9440
    @anishkalsi9440 2 роки тому +11

    i am so glad a video like this, truly understanding jacob, exists....almost all the other youtubers that make ac related videos call jacob the stupidest assassin for some reason and it infuriates me because i genuinely want to know what has he done to earn this title

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому +2

      Glad it exists for you then :D Thank you for watching!

  • @Jack_The_Ripper9234
    @Jack_The_Ripper9234 Місяць тому +1

    Jacob is like a part of me, if he got hurt, i do, if anything happens to him, its like that happened to me

  • @davidbarboianu7860
    @davidbarboianu7860 2 роки тому +20

    This video did so much justice to Jacob thank you so much , I related to him so much especially as another bisexual male who had issues with his father

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому

      Thank you for watching, glad you think the video does him justice!!

    • @Joch2009
      @Joch2009 10 місяців тому

      Burn

  • @kellycline5874
    @kellycline5874 3 роки тому +16

    Thank you so much for doing him justice. Thank you for fleshing him out fairly! I love this video it's a beautiful and perfect character analysis. He was and remains to be one of my all time favorite characters. I it's nice that you didn't just pin him a comic relief. I couldn't agree more with many of the points you outlined.

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому

      Thank you so much!!! Glad you liked the vid :)

  • @GamingHawke
    @GamingHawke 2 роки тому +8

    I never liked how much hate and blame Jacob got especially from Evie. Your character analysis summed up alot of my feelings on Jacob being a good character and innocent character. Well done!

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому

      Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed :)

  • @chrisdimovasilis3212
    @chrisdimovasilis3212 Рік тому +4

    I really loved syndicate and i really loved Jacob... he is my favourite Assassin. Jacob really reminded me of myself whenever I play. I use humour, focus on assassinations and I also don't play stealth all the time... he is very underrated

  • @yoshimitsu4
    @yoshimitsu4 3 роки тому +15

    "The assasin Assasin; the type of assasin who focuses on assassinations" I think you just overthrew Shakespeare!!! Also, the fact that it was you who did that Jaskier video

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому +3

      Ahaha, thank you for complimenting that amazing line! :PPP

  • @Seph-r8f
    @Seph-r8f 3 роки тому +40

    When I had first played Syndicate I couldn't help but hate Jaocb, until I realized he was Bisexual, then I started to see him in a new light. When I had explained to everyone around me, they simply thought it was just because I am a member or the LGBTQ community and so is he, so they called me biased. However, as I watched this video, I realized that I didn't just switch over because he and I are one in the same when it comes to sexuality, but rather because I understand him. I understand his feelings and why he acts like he does, and I think it helped open my eyes to Jacob's character.

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому +5

      Yess, I think the same happened for me. It's cool to hear a similar story :)!

    • @-foxwint-3140
      @-foxwint-3140 3 роки тому +7

      I dunno if liking a characters only by their sexual direction is a "good thing", but at least you dont hate him anymorr so i guess is something

    • @Seph-r8f
      @Seph-r8f 3 роки тому +7

      @@-foxwint-3140 It's not just his sexuality though, his sexuality just opened my eyes to him in general. Once I understood his behaviour I started to click and enjoy his personality, and everything about him, and he's the second Assassin's Creed character I was able to feel the emotions of, the first being Ezio. I felt like I should mention that for the same reason you said, since liking a character simply for their sexuality is kind of...iffy.

    • @islasornacommunications9179
      @islasornacommunications9179 3 роки тому +2

      But he isn’t the bad guy kissed him and Jacob was like what

    • @boomerborks8307
      @boomerborks8307 3 роки тому

      @@islasornacommunications9179
      Maxwell Roth kissed Jacob Frye
      And also Jacob didn't look disgusted or like WTF he had this look on his face
      And also he didn't start aggressively trying to rub off the kiss by Roth
      He just...looked
      Also Roth kissed Jacob because he wanted him to "think about it"

  • @Krol.Seth.13
    @Krol.Seth.13 4 місяці тому +2

    I love your analysis. I always loved Jacob and I’m always obsessed with misunderstood characters. But I think what changed the way I look at him is I didn’t know he was Bi-Sexual. And as someone who’s struggled with being misunderstood I really love his character way more. I’m glad wrote a character inspired off of him.

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  4 місяці тому

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you liked it!

  • @vi5692
    @vi5692 2 роки тому +22

    HOLY SHIT I HAD NO IDEA HE WAS BISEXUAL! Im bisexual and this revelation gave me a mini spike in excitement and solidified him as my favorite character

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому +4

      It did the same for me back in the day :)

  • @stupor_mundi
    @stupor_mundi 2 роки тому +7

    Great in-depth analysis! Jacob and Evie remind me a lot of Dante and Vergil from Devil May Cry and also Vash and Knives from Trigun. It's not unusual to see twins portrayed this way - one easy-going the other more serious - and that doesn't mean the less serious twin is stupid or incompetent. Most of the times he is actually more the "hero", or at least the one we find ourselves rooting for the most. I usually like these raw diamond type of characters, they're the ones who are more fun to see evolve and mature.

  • @handsomedio5916
    @handsomedio5916 2 роки тому +19

    I've always liked Jacob more than Evie due to the fact that Jacob is more interesting due to his personality while I find Evie really boring because she is so cliche and is seemed to be made as this flawless perfect assassin.

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому +1

      I kinda wish that Evie was the sole protagonist and that the writers made her the bisexual character instead. Sadly the higher ups at Ubisoft were massive sexists so they put in Jacob too

    • @eldragon57
      @eldragon57 10 місяців тому

      ⁠@@unicorntomboy9736 Even if that were true I GUARANTEE a bisexual male protagonist is a bigger risk than having a female protagonist. Especially in 2015.

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 10 місяців тому

      @@eldragon57 I forgot about this. I am a writer, and I am currently working on a dark fantasy novel, that features a pansexual female protagonist. That is the sort of thing modern publishers (as in book publisher's like Macmillan and Tor) encourage and look for nowadays.
      You make it sound like 2015 was eons ago, when it wasn't. I was a teenager at the time

    • @eldragon57
      @eldragon57 10 місяців тому

      @@unicorntomboy9736 It was legit almost a decade ago so yeah it was somewhat long ago. Sure 2015 was the start of things getting better for the LGBTQ community but homophobia was still very common in 2015 compared to 2023.

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 10 місяців тому

      @@eldragon57 My book has an LGBTQ female protagonist, and I am confident it will be praised as a result.
      It doesn't feel like that long ago to me, maybe it's just me. I was graduating high school back then, and it didn't feel that rampant, outside of some toxic teenage boys

  • @eliashernanflechasanchez9776
    @eliashernanflechasanchez9776 4 роки тому +19

    Love this video, is exactly what i need it, thank you so much!

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching!!

  • @Nobbejo2
    @Nobbejo2 3 роки тому +11

    Great video! Really good analysis! I wished the game was longer and had more time to tell about Jacob's and Evie's backstory and more room for character development.

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you very much! And sameeee, if only we'd had a couple more sequences! It would have really tied it all together!

  • @emriver11
    @emriver11 2 роки тому +3

    a notice from the book (partly told from the perspective of Henry, Ethan Frye, and Aberline): Ethan Frye is described both by other assassins and a young Henry as being brash and mischievous, as well as a smidge sloppy in some of his cover ups, I think another aspect you could read into their dynamic is that sense of Ethan seeing too much of his worse qualities in Jacob and wanting him to be better, not realizing that it ends up being the thing pushing them apart. This is a great analysis that i love a lot and i appreciate the emphasis on Canon Bi Jacob Frye (even if i am a lil annoyed it was a Word of God confirmation, not that it would make sense otherwise)

  • @magea2926
    @magea2926 Рік тому +4

    He is not as charismatic as an Ezio or Edward, he is not as strong as Connor, but he is the most original of all the assassin we play.
    He is tragic as Arno, but goes on with luck and a smile.

  • @alyaasultan2172
    @alyaasultan2172 3 місяці тому +1

    After watching this video fully i think i actually view Jacob in a more positive light. He defo needs a hug😭
    Evie will always be my favourite twin if I'm being honest😭
    Her drip and character is more my type. I wish she wasn't done dirty and had equal missions with Jacob like how it was supposed to be in the og storyline. I felt forced to play with her brother ngl.
    I live in a homophobic country so the kiss between Jacob and Roth was cut out and i had no idea that Jacob was bi till i watched the gameplay online💀
    Assassin-wise Jacob isn't my fav but I'm glad for the representation🙏

  • @braydenboothe-nelson784
    @braydenboothe-nelson784 Рік тому +3

    I never realized Jacob was bi after seeing this video he is now growing on me

  • @jamesvincentcamagong2821
    @jamesvincentcamagong2821 Рік тому +3

    Jacob was one my top 5 Assassin's Creed characters I always like his mischief side

  • @Val-ed4pz
    @Val-ed4pz 3 роки тому +7

    Such an underrated video, spot on

  • @jacobsnyder9740
    @jacobsnyder9740 Рік тому +2

    Jacob Frye was the heart and soul of the London Bureau, whilst Evie was its mind, Henry its eyes and ears and the Rooks their limbs. When Evie left for India, she took the sanity from London. I blame her, and only her, for London's collapse into The Ripper's Terror.
    Frederick Abberline had Evie escorted to his office mostly as a friendly scolding - commanding in as polite a tone possible, "Clean. Up. Your. Mess."
    For all of his flaws, Jacob Frye is a Masterwork of an Assassin and while not perfect, he is by every means exactly what London needed in his time.

  • @thehopefulyetdoubtful3656
    @thehopefulyetdoubtful3656 3 роки тому +7

    I would've liked to see these characters have a sequel game & be given more development, especially Jacob & his love life

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, it would have been nice to see!

  • @Ezarel
    @Ezarel 3 роки тому +5

    This video is really amazing, I understood possibly more than 50% and that is a breakthrough for me, lol (I am Spanish speaker). I like the points and the reasons you give because they make a lot of sense. I enjoyed the video and you have a nice voice! :)

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому

      Aww, thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed ^.^

  • @Weewoop3
    @Weewoop3 3 роки тому +5

    Why is Jacob like really attractive

  • @wonder2002
    @wonder2002 2 роки тому +3

    I always like Jacob, but could never find the words as to why, this video really gets right to it. Great work!

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому

      Thank you!!!! :D!

  • @jjs1300000
    @jjs1300000 2 роки тому +2

    Jacob is my favourite, he deserves more love and I love your analysis of him.

  • @Cynder044
    @Cynder044 2 роки тому +2

    I think I was maybe 13 when I played Syndicate, so I didn't realize most things, especially not that Jacob is bi. But still I quickly started to identify myself with him. Over the years I realized, that I mostly feel drawn to troubled persons and characters. Maybe a part of me noticed his problems. Till this day, Jacob is my favorite assassin and I highly doubt that it will ever change.

  • @isaiahcollins3451
    @isaiahcollins3451 3 роки тому +9

    I always saw Roth and Jacobs relationship as Jacob found a friend slash father figure that is similar to himself

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, I know a lot of people have that surface level understanding of their relationship, but the subtext really suggests something else entirely

  • @kelsey1406
    @kelsey1406 2 роки тому +6

    I loved this video! Jacob is such a complex character and it kills me how people boil him down to just a, “Worthless, reckless, Jackass”.

  • @cookiesalad5959
    @cookiesalad5959 3 роки тому +6

    I really love these types of videos, and this one is now one of my favourite videos, I honestly wish I found this earlier. If you don't mind, make more videos like this please!😊😊

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you :)!!!
      I might make more videos like this in the future, but I can't guarantee anything!

  • @CTXVII
    @CTXVII Рік тому +2

    Replaying Syndicate now, and I must say, Jacob is one of my favourite Assassins in the entire franchise. It’s a shame how much hate he receives and it’s just mind boggling to me why he still isn’t getting the love he deserves, while Arno is all of a sudden.

  • @canrule08
    @canrule08 3 роки тому +8

    He is growing on me

  • @TSmith-yy3cc
    @TSmith-yy3cc 4 роки тому +9

    Great video; really well done and reasoned!

  • @_xxy-wk6wu
    @_xxy-wk6wu 3 роки тому +2

    I feel the best to spend my money with this game season. I was fascinated by the character Jacob Frey. His eyes were of many things, and at times his trying to be like an adult and realistic.It looked as innocent as a child and that was the charm of this character.

  • @totallyoutofit6989
    @totallyoutofit6989 2 роки тому +2

    His relationship with roth was really interesting

  • @kelsey1406
    @kelsey1406 2 роки тому +2

    I really recommend the book Underworld. Changed my view on the game so much.

  • @shapeshifter2468
    @shapeshifter2468 2 роки тому +2

    hi I recently found your channel and this was my first video i seen .
    i really like your analysis of jacob fry
    i'm a twin and i have a younger twin sister. (i'm a boy lol) i can relate with evie but i'm bi like jacob.
    keep up the good work i can't wait to see more of your analysis video in the future

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you :)!!!

  • @hujan1744
    @hujan1744 Рік тому +3

    I feel like outside of his queerness, Jacob works very well for ADHD representation

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  Рік тому +1

      Oooo true!

    • @hujan1744
      @hujan1744 Рік тому +1

      @@Kateis_ honestly from my recent rewatches and replays of some of the AC games (going throught 3 and 4 rn) him and Connor are propably the two AC protagonists that give me neurodivergent vibes (where while Jacob gives me strong ADHD vibes, Connor behaves and thinks in a way that comes off as very autistic to me)

  • @coshcosh3753
    @coshcosh3753 2 роки тому +3

    Great analysis and video, thank you so so much for this!

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you :)!

  • @DJGOGSTOWN
    @DJGOGSTOWN 3 роки тому +7

    WHAAAAAAAAAAA Jacob is Bi. HOW DID I NOT KNOW

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому

      Yasss!!! I'm glad ya know now :D

  • @Jesusofsuburbia-22
    @Jesusofsuburbia-22 4 місяці тому +1

    After watching this analysis I realized the ONLY difference between me and Jacob is, I'm American and he's British lol.
    Are you going to do more analysis in the future?
    I hope so 🤞

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  4 місяці тому +1

      Haha that's great! Love that for you ^.^
      I don't think so. I got really burnt out after doing this one, but I would love to pick up analysis videos again one day. We'll see! But no promises unfortunately.
      But thank you for asking, that gives me some hope that people would want to see more :)

    • @Jesusofsuburbia-22
      @Jesusofsuburbia-22 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Kateis_ you're welcome

  • @bekkahw3188
    @bekkahw3188 3 роки тому +2

    Underworld is a really good book to get some sort of perspective on Ethan, you also get small snippets of young Evie and Jacob but the book mostly talks about Henry

    • @kelsey1406
      @kelsey1406 2 роки тому +1

      The book was amazing! It really changed my perspective on Jacob and Ethan’s relationship. It seems like both of the twins loved their father, and he loved them. When they both got to London I think they both wanted to carry on his legacy, but had very different ideas of how to get there. If they would have worked together from the beginning, everything would have turned out.

  • @ac_nerd9794
    @ac_nerd9794 5 місяців тому

    I just want to say that i agree. Jacob is one of the coolest characters in the franchise, but all of them are cool as hell. I think you touched on the things I agree with perfectly. He isn't perfect, but he does his job the best he can, improvises, and of course, he has a little fun. Who wouldn't have fun traveling on rooftops in London? He matures later in the DLC, but I think just like other AC games, if they had more time, every single one of them could be game of the year contenders.

  • @boomerborks8307
    @boomerborks8307 3 роки тому +4

    He is an
    ASSASSIN
    SASSIN
    Jacob got dat SASS

  • @RealKame
    @RealKame 2 роки тому +2

    I know I'm like a year late but I love this video honey

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому

      Thank you very much :D And don't worry, you can never be late to a video :)

  • @unknowngamer-pe3ks
    @unknowngamer-pe3ks 2 роки тому +2

    What a cool character

  • @generalartist420
    @generalartist420 2 роки тому +4

    So what I'm hearing is..... Jacob is just Arno but in the Victorian era?

    • @AstarionWifey
      @AstarionWifey 2 роки тому

      Uhhh no? Arno was a sad simp

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому +2

      @@AstarionWifey Arno as a character did delve into topics like depression and alcoholism, which was a key part of his character.
      There is an entire sequence of Arno going on a depressed, drunken rampage

  • @AndreaP_N7
    @AndreaP_N7 4 роки тому +12

    Before I get into what is likely to be a long comment, let me first say that I think your analysis was excellent and I agree with almost everything you said. Most videos and articles about Syndicate are years old (so I feel odd commenting on them), but I only played the game back in June, so I hope you'll indulge my babbling :)
    I started to watch this video last night, and I'll admit to initially rage-quitting at 3:15 when you said that Evie's missions were "padded out". In my -- admittedly limited so far -- experience with the Syndicate fandom (not game reviewers, but people posting fanfiction, fan art, memes, etc.), there seem to be two very popular opinions that drown out almost everything else: 1) that Jacob and Evie should bang (gross), and 2) that Evie is a b**** whose selfish obsession with the Pieces of Eden prevented Jacob from doing more good in London. So when you said Evie's missions had been padded out at the expense of Jacob's character, I thought you were one of the latter.
    When I was playing the game, I actually thought it was pretty obvious that Evie's story had been cut short in the main game and then they'd tried to make up for that by making her the star of JTR and giving her more time in the novel. I don't know if you've read the articles that came out in July, about Ubisoft executives forcing the team to reduce Evie's role in the story (and Aya's and Kassandra's as well), but apparently she and Jacob were initially intended to have equal scripted time. I feel cheated wondering what story line we missed out on because Ubisoft is run by misogynists. Would Evie have had a mess of her own to clean up at some point, or would we have seen her fulfill her promise to Clara instead of having the child liberations relegated to side missions, maybe? But I also feel that both JTR and the novel would have been stronger if we'd spent more time with Jacob or gotten more insight into his character. The novel would have been a perfect time to tell us more about why Ethan and Jacob didn't get along, but all we really get is.......*****novel spoilers ahead*****.......that they loved each other, Jacob was sad when Ethan got sicker and died, and Ethan thought both twins were ready to go to London, though he died before he could start making any concrete plans for them beyond their blooding.
    **End of novel spoilers**
    I came back to your video today with the intention of arguing that it is possible (preferable, even!) to defend and explain Jacob *without* assassinating Evie's character, and was pleased to learn that I wasn't going to have to do that after all. :)
    Without giving out any more spoilers, reading the novel made me wonder whether Ethan might have been bisexual himself, though likely in denial about it, and if he recognized that in Jacob -- maybe catching him giving another boy "inappropriate" (or so he would have thought) attention -- there might have been an element of self-hate there as well. I'm not LGBTQ myself, so it's quite likely that I'm reading into things that aren't really there, but I thought I'd mention it in case you read the novel (or planned to) and would love to know your opinion on that.
    Either that, or Ethan saw other aspects of his own personality in Jacob, recognized what those traits had cost him, and wished better for Jacob.
    I had a bit of a different interpretation of Aberline's instructions to Jacob regarding Twopenny than you did. I don't remember the exact line, but Aberline said something to Jacob about needing to catch Twopenny in the act and not to interrupt him, so before regaining control of Jacob, I thought the objective would be to kidnap Twopenny at some opportune moment, or maybe let Twopenny complete the theft and then tail him, leading the police straight to his hideout with the stolen goods. I was quite confused when the objective was instead to assassinate Twopenny, because in my mind, that's exactly what Aberline *didn't* want. That gave Jacob more culpability for the fallout, although the police are still partially to blame. I hadn't thought of it that way, but I think you're absolutely right in that regard.
    Finally, I'm with you 100% on the nature of the sibling relationship and what it tells us about Jacob. I almost feel like, even though we get Evie's own words from her journal, we actually get a more honest picture of their relationship by the looks they give each other at various points in the game. Fond amusement when Jacob gets his first kukri or when Evie fangirls over Charles Dickens. Tears in their eyes when they fight. Regret as they head off to the ball for their "last" mission together. And yes, jealousy from Jacob that Evie isn't spending as much time with him anymore. It's such a well-done relationship that these two are among my most favorite characters in any medium, ever.
    Anyway, great video, and thanks for reading!

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  4 роки тому +2

      Wanna start this off with, thanks for watching! Even if the video turned ya off at first.
      I meant the padding out how many missions Evie has comment as a criticism of Syndicate's structure, but I didn't go too much into it since it wasn't the focus of the video. Obviously, I would have loved to have some of the fallout missions go to Jacob, and for Evie to have her own missions (especially assassination ones) that are independent of Jacob.
      It really annoyed me, and since all that stuff came out about Syndicate (and the other games), it annoyed me even more.
      That being said, even though Syndicate was supposed to be Evie's game alone (pretty sure that was one of the things going around months back), I do not regret that we got Jacob since, you know, he's bi. That mattered at the time, but now im just so much angrier about it all.
      Like, Evie could have had the starring role she deserved. I remember the reassurance at the time (just before the game launched) that Evie was going to have a small amount of missions compared to Jacob, and to find out it was supposed to be HER GAME. Ugh. That's the mood I have about it.
      To be honest, I've never read the novel despite being a huge fan of the game. I'm always gonna take the game's word over the novel's, if that makes sense :P
      Yeah like I love Evie to bits, I never intended that 'pad out' comment to be criticising her portrayal as much as I was criticising the story for leaving her out of the story somewhat.
      Huh, that's an interesting interpretation! If you see it, than I might as well believe it :P Ethan is bi confirmed! :P If it was a self hate thing, that would be more interesting. I just, god, I really wished we knew more about Ethan and Jacob's terse relationship in game.
      I mean I hadn't thought Abberline might that like, I mean, he knows Jacob is an assassin and I... Like I just can't with that whole thing, you know? It's just so... Abberline, what the fuck man! That's how I feel XD
      Yesss, so agree with what you said on their sibling relationship!!!!
      Thanks for this long comment, I've never seen one so long before :D

    • @AndreaP_N7
      @AndreaP_N7 4 роки тому

      @@Kateis_ The sole protagonist thing was with Aya in Origins. She was supposed to be the sole player character, but then the developers were forced to replace her with...her husband, I guess? Same with Kassandra and Odyssey having the Alexios option. Evie was just supposed to have equal screen time along with Jacob, instead of getting roughly 1/3 of the story to his 2/3. While I'm sure Evie could carry an AC game all on her own, I love Jacob too and like you, I'm glad we got him (although before getting to know him, I admit it took me a while to warm up to him because I saw him as yet another male protagonist shoving the female one aside). But now, I can't imagine having one twin without the other.
      I get what you mean about taking the game's word over the novel's. There are some scenes that occur in both, where the novel's version is noticeably different than the game's, and I wonder why they made the changes they did. However, 2/3 of the book takes place before the game. You learn a lot about Ethan and Henry, and there's a decent amount of Abberline in there, too. Ethan is a very flawed individual, with what I feel to be a combination of Evie and Jacob's worst traits, and based on the excellent character analysis in this video, I bet you'd be able to glean some interesting observations from the book, even if we never get a definitive answer about his relationship with Jacob.
      You're probably right about Abberline, honestly. If he didn't want Twopenny dead, he should have specified, like he did with the kidnapping targets. (I accidentally let one die, once, because as I brought the target to the waiting carriage, a horse on the road *touched* him, and he dropped dead. Abberline's disgust was palpable XD )

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  4 роки тому +1

      Ah right yeah!!! Aya was let down so bad :( Kassandra tooooo :(((
      Yeah they do work well as like twin protags, just sooo wish Evie had been given a full story that didn't like have "Jacob cleanup missions" :(
      I should probably read the novel one day, as all I have right now is the wiki to see what happened in it! Because that sounds really interesting!!
      Yeah I would go in proper analyst mode XD
      Aha yeah that is relatable. It should have been a kidnap mission, but then... all Templars must die! :P

    • @AndreaP_N7
      @AndreaP_N7 4 роки тому +2

      @@Kateis_ I as surprised by how much I liked the novel and how interesting I found the stuff about Ethan and Henry. The wiki tells you what happened, but it doesn't *really* tell you what happened. I hope you enjoy it as well ^_^
      Anyway, I've subbed in case you make more videos like this one!

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  4 роки тому +1

      Yess!!
      Thank you! I intended to make more videos but it didn't really happen, we'll see what happens in the future though!! :)

  • @tigga2300
    @tigga2300 2 роки тому +1

    This is really good. A great analysis.

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому

      Thank you!!

    • @tigga2300
      @tigga2300 2 роки тому

      @@Kateis_ You're welcome.

  • @iluuvtacotrucks
    @iluuvtacotrucks 2 роки тому +6

    As a bisexual and a fan fic writer THANK YOU! ❤

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому

      You're welcome :D

  • @colorful_ashley
    @colorful_ashley Місяць тому

    The fact of Jacob being Bisexual is blowing my mind the most, that won’t make me stop loving him though 😊

  • @andresouza7759
    @andresouza7759 3 роки тому +1

    Jacob is my favorite in assassin's creed syndicate

  • @zyprx
    @zyprx 3 роки тому +6

    Late to the party, but I'd also like to point out that Jacob seems to be attracted to more..mature people. (ie "old" lol). He's attracted to Roth, but he was also, I think, obviously attracted to Pearl as well. He even has moments where he looks very fondly at Darwin. We don't ever see him flirting with people his own age; he's always flirting with the older, more mature, characters.

    • @dabi16500
      @dabi16500 2 роки тому +4

      i may be blind but i didn't notice any flirting towards these characters? just normal cordiality

    • @chaserred4155
      @chaserred4155 2 роки тому +1

      Well he definitely has good tastes doesn't he?

  • @pirate7771
    @pirate7771 3 роки тому +8

    You sound like Evie and i just got confused all the time😂😂😂
    Great vid tho

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому +2

      I mean we have two wildly different accents sooo fhjgsdjfg XD I cannot agree with this

  • @ARCtrooperblueleader
    @ARCtrooperblueleader Рік тому +1

    Brilliant analysis. Bravo. ❤

  • @DaimaGokuedits
    @DaimaGokuedits Рік тому +2

    Such a W video, as a bi man with father issues as well i truly reasonated with Jacob, hes my most favorite Assassin's creed character his humor always put me in a good mood. Jacob is one of my biggest inspirations, hes truly an underrated character. I always prefered him for than Evie since Evie is the opposite of my personality, shes more like my older brother.

  • @dezilen23
    @dezilen23 3 роки тому +1

    I haven't finished Jack the Ripper DLC and I paused immediately at the last few mins towards the end of the video... gonna save some spoilers for later after I beat the DLC! XD

    • @xiomysam
      @xiomysam Рік тому

      Well! How was it? 👀👀 Did you beat it? It’s been two years! 😅

    • @dezilen23
      @dezilen23 Рік тому

      @@xiomysam L0L! I only made it through that part in which Evie had to go to a border house iirc? Not long aftet I had to study for some exam and stopped playing and never go back to finish the game XD.

  • @andresouza478
    @andresouza478 3 роки тому +1

    Jacob is my favorite in syndicate

  • @DJGOGSTOWN
    @DJGOGSTOWN 3 роки тому +3

    He and Alexios would have been awesome together

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому

      Alexios isn't canon. Kassandra is

    • @DJGOGSTOWN
      @DJGOGSTOWN 2 роки тому

      @@unicorntomboy9736 So. I can dream can’t I.

    • @unicorntomboy9736
      @unicorntomboy9736 2 роки тому +1

      @@DJGOGSTOWN Nobody said you couldn't. Although technically his name is Diemos

    • @DJGOGSTOWN
      @DJGOGSTOWN 2 роки тому

      @@unicorntomboy9736 I know. Deimos or not they’d look great together

  • @Louis-kd9bn
    @Louis-kd9bn 2 роки тому +3

    Jacob the bi king

  • @agungWicak-s4t
    @agungWicak-s4t 11 місяців тому +1

    jacob is better than evie,evie too much passion behind his father word,only focus of piece of eden
    but jacob?he almost slaught all master templars in london,and

  • @zombieinfo2099
    @zombieinfo2099 2 роки тому

    This analysis is so good! I love that syndicate can get some credit too for its characters. I would love to see an Evie analysis from you. You’re perspective is really interesting.

  • @bi0-h4zard
    @bi0-h4zard 3 роки тому +2

    I love my bi boy Jacob!

  • @Plymouth_Belvedere
    @Plymouth_Belvedere 3 роки тому

    Its been so long since I played this game. I lost my account where I had this and lost the discs aswell.

  • @anjoomfaisal
    @anjoomfaisal Рік тому +1

    cool video kate

  • @Sub-Zero_.
    @Sub-Zero_. 2 роки тому +1

    Ar-are you saying I'm not dumb?

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому

      You are indeed not dumb, Mr Frye

  • @misscow_boots9985
    @misscow_boots9985 3 роки тому +1

    Is Jacob bi or is roth because it was roth that kissed him and Jacob was disgusted but did this moment change Jacob idk though

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  3 роки тому +3

      Jacob is bi, as confirmed by the Assassin's Creed tumblr. I think the lead writer confirmed that Roth was gay in an interview, but I could be slightly off, and it was just confirmed that he's obviously not straight :P
      Jacob was not disgusted, it's clear in his expression he's confused.
      I hope this helps!!

    • @misscow_boots9985
      @misscow_boots9985 3 роки тому

      @@Kateis_ looking at it again I got the word 'disgusted' wrong, he does looked confused and like 0_0 what just happened there

    • @AstarionWifey
      @AstarionWifey 2 роки тому

      @@misscow_boots9985 I’m sure that was the first time someone initiated a kiss

  • @H22_GIB
    @H22_GIB 2 роки тому

    Jacob does have a child cause you play as his granddaughter in the ww1 missions

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому +2

      I never said he doesn't? I say he likely had a son twice

  • @void616_
    @void616_ 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video

  • @JoshuaValencia-m1w
    @JoshuaValencia-m1w 7 місяців тому

    Like yea his bi but why would the creed care it’s literally about freedom but carry it with honor

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  6 місяців тому

      The Creed are about freedom in life but that doesn't translate to them being not homophobic. And especially doesn't stop individual assassins from being homophobic
      It was just some analysis and speculation too :)

  • @daxyproductions
    @daxyproductions 3 роки тому

    Great video - it's certainly given me a different perspective on Jacob.
    I have to ask though…what’s your opinion on Evie?
    I only ask this because, I’ve done a video on how to me, Evie is the redeeming aspect of Syndicate, and commented that Jacob is quite annoying. It’s a throw away comment and based mostly on the fact that I didn’t want to play as him, but I never EVER considered the fact that I saw him as a bit annoying because…well…Evie did, and she’s the twin I tried to play as much as I possibly could (despite the limitations of the story).
    I just find the idea that whichever twin you favoured is the one you would take the side of - much in the same way if they were real people venting about their sibling. I’ve always felt the sibling relationship between the two is probably the best part of the writing in Syndicate, it feels so authentic at times. Quite frankly, if me and my younger sister were assassins my last words to her before a mission would most certainly be ‘don’t die’ just like Evie’s were to Jacob at the start of the game.
    I find the Frye twins broken down to Evie is the straight man to Jacob’s joker and I just don’t think it’s right, I think they’re both so much more than that character wise. Both twins suffer from a very bad story - or in the very least a story that needed more background. I think Syndicate NEEDED to see some of their life with their father to truly understand their characters. There was just something missing in the backstory to fully round the two off.
    I won’t lie, it’s put the idea in my head to do a video along the lines of how both twins are viewed depending on who you spend most of your time playing as and if it influences how you feel about the other Frye sibling.

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому +1

      Sorry it's taken me so long to get to this! My opinion on Evie is that I love her! I love playing with her, I love her story and development, and while I favour Jacob, it's because he's bi, and that's more relatable to me than Evie is. But both of them are amazing characters and I love Evie just as much as Jacob! :)
      I do agree whichever you favour will give you a biased view for sure, I feel that's how we work as people with characters we like!

  • @Sub-Zero_.
    @Sub-Zero_. 2 роки тому +1

    If you are you are my dearest youtuber m'lady

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  2 роки тому

      Thank you very much. Though it's more m'gentleman than m'lady, Mr Frye

    • @Sub-Zero_.
      @Sub-Zero_. 2 роки тому

      Hm maybe not for someone I like (not in the way you people are gonna think)

    • @Sub-Zero_.
      @Sub-Zero_. 2 роки тому

      @@Kateis_ wait why the heck are my notifications so late..what?

  • @flying_plane56
    @flying_plane56 2 роки тому +2

    W vid

  • @jacobfrye6661
    @jacobfrye6661 3 роки тому +1

    EXACTLY

  • @lilyanderson140
    @lilyanderson140 3 роки тому

    Wow

  • @JoshuaValencia-m1w
    @JoshuaValencia-m1w 7 місяців тому

    This is good but why does everything have to be gay now

    • @Kateis_
      @Kateis_  6 місяців тому

      He is literally bi and this was literally an essay about that being a core part of his character that nobody should ignore
      I once tilted the essay as viewing him through a queer lens soo yeeee

  • @CHATER_BOX
    @CHATER_BOX Рік тому

    I just don’t like him because he’s BRITISH!!!