Mrs Flood's Identity SOLVED? | Doctor Who Season 2 Theory

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  • Who is Mrs Flood? With the Doctor Who Season 1 finale came many un-answered questions, the biggest of those being Mrs Flood. So lets theorise on who she could be...
    Video Chapter's:
    00:00 - Who is Mrs Flood?
    00:38 - More background on Mrs Flood
    02:09 - Theory 1
    03:18 - Theory 2
    04:38 - Overview
    04:52 - Outro
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  • @Kustonius
    @Kustonius 9 днів тому +16

    A flood is caused by rain and rain is an anagram for Rani, and The Rani was a Time Lord who's path crossed with The Doctor more than once and was banished to a pocket dimension so could have been spared the extinction of the Time Lords so if she escaped and discovered that the Time Lords aren't there to stop her well.. as she said herself "I had such big plans" She was also a companion of the The Doctor so her wearing other companions clothing could be a clever clue to that as well

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому +2

      As someone who does not know much about classic who yet, that is very interesting to know. I have seen people just saying she should come back but it seems feasible with your idea.

    • @Kustonius
      @Kustonius 9 днів тому +1

      @@TheLaneDW I sadly can't take full credit for it, I haven't only watched Dr Who from the 9th Doctor and onwards, it was pointed out on another comment discussion as a possible theory, and so far is my favourite take, I did look up the information to be sure though

    • @joelSM01
      @joelSM01 8 днів тому +1

      probably a red herring here though

    • @paulbarnett227
      @paulbarnett227 8 днів тому +1

      @@Kustonius The Rani also has previous in copying companion outfits. She copied Mel's outfit in a 7th Doctor episode.

    • @Kustonius
      @Kustonius 8 днів тому +1

      @@paulbarnett227 She downright copied Mel and fooled the doctor to, so there is indeed precedence for it

  • @richardgrosvenor9660
    @richardgrosvenor9660 9 днів тому +9

    Romana is not dead. She’s in E space , suggest you gen up on classic who , it’ll help

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому +2

      I am trying 😂, recently started the 2nd Doctor but there is SO MANY episodes. Not sure what E space is but ill give I shall look into it. From googling how she left the show it wasn’t showing anything definitive, hence my thought of that being a possibility.

    • @paulshorney3465
      @paulshorney3465 7 днів тому +1

      @@TheLaneDW watch espace trilogy and then explain the third story to me. Still gives me a migraine trying to understand it! Lol😥

  • @Branfaol1
    @Branfaol1 9 днів тому +7

    I think she's The Great Intelligence. It ties to the memories of Clara but memories in general as well as the Snow.

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому +2

      That is a great theory. That would be really cool, and help explain the snow.

    • @lozD83
      @lozD83 9 днів тому +2

      Yes, as well as his face appearing in the database in Rogue. Remember, the Toy Maker said he'd messed with the Doctor's history...

    • @debrahanes4439
      @debrahanes4439 8 днів тому +2

      I'm embarrassed to admit I'm a big clara fan and that I didn't even think about this.

  • @00Kequan
    @00Kequan 9 днів тому +7

    She said a storm was coming, and what comes after a Storm a Flood.

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому +1

      I did not notice that 😂.

    • @00Kequan
      @00Kequan 9 днів тому +2

      @@TheLaneDW I think I’m one of the only people who kinda has lol, but maybe not it’s not that hard to come up with😂

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому +2

      @00Kequan it seems simple now you have said it but the line seemed to be just about sutekh arriving not her. But it could be a double meaning like you say. Definitely interesting.

    • @lozD83
      @lozD83 9 днів тому +3

      I've also pointed this out elsewhere. I think many made the connection, tbh

    • @00Kequan
      @00Kequan 9 днів тому +4

      @@lozD83 see I had no clue lol, but it’s not that complicated to put together haha. I really now think it could be the Rani though

  • @stephenf8816
    @stephenf8816 9 днів тому +3

    I think she could be the former landlady of an Eastend pub

    • @Joanna-il2ur
      @Joanna-il2ur 8 днів тому +1

      And maybe her husband could play guitar on top of Buck House. I just realised too she’s Lady May.

  • @dutchessbarbie12369
    @dutchessbarbie12369 9 днів тому +4

    Beast from the Pit as Ms Flood told Cherry to tell her God that she was coming and would destroy heaven's gate using her true name.

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому +1

      Oooooh thats cool, I did not make a connection there at all but that is 100% a likely theory.

  • @paulbarnett227
    @paulbarnett227 8 днів тому +1

    She's the Rani - another time lord (time lady?) from the classic series.

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  8 днів тому

      This is a theory many people believe in. I wouldn’t hate it, would be cool to have another timelord character back in the show besides the master.

  • @steveblackie1
    @steveblackie1 9 днів тому +1

    any reason why the great intelligence on the time stream theory not mentioned? snow ,clara ? richard e grant cameo

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      Series 7 is one of my least favourite series in the show and so I generally forget many things that happen in it, including the great intelligence 😂. Its a great guess though, could easily be who she is.

  • @martyncole537
    @martyncole537 9 днів тому +2

    The last one I’ve seen was The Church On Ruby Road.

  • @Tejiknasten
    @Tejiknasten 9 днів тому +2

    If being a God or a Goddess, I think she's rather one of the Norns from the Nordic Mythology. I'm not sure if she's Urðr (the one who stands for the fate of the future) Verðani (the one who stands for the fate of the present) or Skuld (the one who makes the mantle of destiny for each and everyone), but perhaps mrs Flood's different clothing could be a sign of her being the Norn of Skuld.,

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      I did see these while researching who she could be and found that some of them felt to specific IMO to fit everything going on with her but they could be and I wouldnt hate it.

  • @wyrdwik4610
    @wyrdwik4610 День тому +1

    It's Susan.

  • @tintingamerboy6133
    @tintingamerboy6133 9 днів тому +2

    i feel like mrs flood could be a time lord from the future or past cause how would she know what a tardis is. a nother theory that i have is that mrs flood could possibly ruby sunday when she is old.

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      Thats 2 great theories. The old ruby one sounds interesting. The doctor would probably tell stories to ruby of past companions so that could work. There is also a theory of ruby being a god because of the snow and music inside her which could explain the 4th wall break. I like the idea 👍.

  • @derekp308
    @derekp308 9 днів тому +1

    She might not even be evil. What about her being the White Guardian? The white fur coat could be the hint.

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      I do not know who that is but I do like the idea of her being a non-evil character. She definitely didnt seem fully sinister in multiple of the scenes.

    • @derekp308
      @derekp308 9 днів тому

      @@TheLaneDW The White Guardian is from classic Who. He appeared in a few episodes of the Fourth and Fifth Doctor eras. He’s the opposite of the Black Guardian, who is naturally, a villain. Both are god like beings like the Toymaker.

  • @IllumeEltanin
    @IllumeEltanin 8 днів тому +1

    My theory is mostly for fun, but with Disney’s involvement I really like the idea of the play on the old fan fiction idea that Mary Poppins is a Time Lord (luggage that’s is bigger on the inside?). Her umbrella and luggage in that final scene instantly brings Poppins to mind.

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  8 днів тому

      That would be hilarious. I dont think they would ever do a proper cross over like that but if it happened that would be brilliant.

    • @mleav2
      @mleav2 8 днів тому +1

      The umbrella would be her sonic.

    • @IllumeEltanin
      @IllumeEltanin 8 днів тому

      @@mleav2 I like that idea, but as far as I know, unlike light sabers for Jedi, The Doctor is the only Time Lord with a sonic, nu?

  • @bugginonthewall
    @bugginonthewall 10 днів тому +2

    Fantastic vid! I have high hopes for long term payoff in Ncuti’s era. He’s a brilliant Doctor. Mrs Flood reminds me of a similar character from a different series. Lesley from Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared. Lesley is a supposed God, theorised to be the mother of one of the characters, who dictates, pauses; restarts & changes timelines to fit her taste. Very similar in personality too! Cooky Old Ladies always spark good mystery 😂

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  10 днів тому +1

      Thank you 👍. I am fully with you in believing the long term payoff will be great. That character you mentioned sounds super interesting and I could see something super similar happening here.

  • @TheGreatLordDufus
    @TheGreatLordDufus 3 дні тому +1

    If she's an Osiran (Whoniverse aliens which include Sutekh, and in universe formed the basis of the Egyptian pantheon), Hapi, the God of the Nile makes sense for a Flood.
    A Guardian, probably the Black, is a possibility. Probably the favourite if bringing back god-like figures.
    She's not Rassillon (again), or Omega. And please not Tecteun, unless its to reverse whole timeless child shitshow.
    Then there's the water link - Pond, River, Flood. They made a point of the Doctor not knowing about a child, only a grandchild. Mrs Flood could be a daughter of the river (which may also tie back to the Nile, I guess) wanting revenge after being abandoned by her parents. This would also play into the whole adoption theme with both Ruby and The Doctor, allows for her to be Susan's mother ...... given the strong hints that Susan may return (it surely wasn't all misdirection) ........ and I'm actually starting to lean toward this thought bubble. Highly tenuous, but maybe plausible?

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  3 дні тому

      They all sound like really good theories. I do like the idea of her being the doctors daughter, will really link up nicely with a lot of current threads we have which I feel like is a must right now 😂

  • @peterparker6584
    @peterparker6584 9 днів тому +2

    Why is nobody thinking Mrs flood is the obvious? It's potentially the doctor's granddaughter. Other option is it's the master. And before somebody says Missy and the master killed each other do you realize how many times the master has returned after being killed? The master and the original series literally died and ended up getting a new body multiple times let alone in this new series of the doctor. The Master is like a cockroach. Irony being on more than one occasion he's done good things unintentionally.The master is the kind of guy that would literally be excited about the doctor beating the god of death. Master was always a weird character when you think about their mental construct they always kind of considered the doctor their friend and a very broken way

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому +1

      It could very well be one of these easily. The Master I wouldn’t want back yet but I wouldn’t hate her being Susan, other than the fact I would like Carol Ann Ford to return as her first (if she were to regenerate).

  • @StrawbeeKat
    @StrawbeeKat 9 днів тому +1

    When I saw her wearing that Claras outfit I was hit with a trainwreck of flashbacks and emotions. 😭I can't!

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      It’s got to be intentional right? It’s too identical. Clara is my favourite companion so it was deffo exciting to see. I doubt she will come back, but the reference was nice.

  • @timothyweers8054
    @timothyweers8054 9 днів тому +1

    When you bring up that Mrs Flood can see into the Doctor's timeline, I can see either the white guardian or black guardian making a reprise. If you look at The Ribos Operation, where Romana was told by the High Council President to help the Doctor find the Key To Time, she made the remark at the end of The Armageddon Factor, that the guardian didn't look like the President and the Doctor made the comment that the guardian has a right to change their appearance to suit the need. So, if Mrs Flood is predicting the future, then she has a need for him to fix a catastrophic event.

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      A know nothing of these characters as of now but from what you described that sounds like it could fit perfectly with everything we have seen so far, and sounds really unique.

  • @Joanna-il2ur
    @Joanna-il2ur 8 днів тому +1

    Hades was not an evil god;he oversaw the underworld but in Greek myth this was not a place of punishment, more of storage.

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  8 днів тому

      Yea he doesn’t have to be evil. Im not sure if Mrs Flood is or not. But over seeing the underworld allows him to communicate with dead companions is where I was going with it.

  • @a1cianimates
    @a1cianimates 9 днів тому +1

    0:16 I heard someone say that's reminiscent of Rory's outfit

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      Could be. Would not surprise me if thats the case.

  • @OliverSmithson-ir9fi
    @OliverSmithson-ir9fi 9 днів тому +1

    A subtitle scewup in the first few seconds! Ncuti Gatwa turned into Shuti Gma

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      Yea I do not create my own subtitle’s so the auto generated ones seemed to have struggled 😂.

  • @craigraines1875
    @craigraines1875 8 днів тому +1

    Why is the master not in consideration I mean anything is possible right

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  8 днів тому

      It could be, easily, but I personally do not want the master back right now. So I went with something completely new.

  • @DatOldeBiker
    @DatOldeBiker 9 днів тому +1

    Thanks for your thoughts, either could be true - or something else entirely like maybe a regenerated Romana? lol. :>)

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      I have seen people say this. I do not know much about her so it could be 😂.

  • @ozelhassan8576
    @ozelhassan8576 9 днів тому +1

    I think she is the Rani

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      I personally know nothing about her but considering the just brought back Sutekh from Classic Who, it’s not off the table.

  • @studioshorelinestoreonetsy7855
    @studioshorelinestoreonetsy7855 9 днів тому +1

    I think she is the Rani..... After her saying to the grandma, you small little creature..... I think she was making Ruby Sunday the bait in a trap....

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому +1

      I know nothing about the Rani but that sounds like something a villain would do 😂

  • @william2237
    @william2237 9 днів тому +1

    Mrs Flood reminds me of foster mother from the dr. who adipose episode

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому +1

      You know what, she actually does 😂

  • @alicemahoney1703
    @alicemahoney1703 9 днів тому +1

    I can't wait to find out who she is. It's gunna be a good season for sure

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      Yes I’m excited for season 2. This season was super consistent overall for me and I’m sure it will be no different.

  • @triplejazzmusicisall1883
    @triplejazzmusicisall1883 9 днів тому +1

    But Romana was trapped in Espace without a Tardis as well.

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      I tried looking up how she exited the show and didnt see anything that said she died so came up with this idea. I mean I dont know anything to do with Espace but im sure they could say she escaped it if they want.

    • @triplejazzmusicisall1883
      @triplejazzmusicisall1883 9 днів тому +1

      @@TheLaneDW Hi
      She left in a story called Warrior's Gate. Have a top day. cheers

    • @georgerigberg4335
      @georgerigberg4335 9 днів тому +1

      AND the Master has been completely destroyed how many times...?😊

    • @triplejazzmusicisall1883
      @triplejazzmusicisall1883 8 днів тому

      @@georgerigberg4335 an excellent fully justified point. Maybe DW has to get more gritty and real about death.

    • @paulshorney3465
      @paulshorney3465 7 днів тому

      @@triplejazzmusicisall1883 warriors gate still gives me a migraine trying to make head or tail of it! Lol

  • @verpsa1295
    @verpsa1295 9 днів тому +1

    The way she tells the doctors life like a story and flood being the name I immediately thought of Amy pond. This is so out there so please don’t take it seriously. What if her and rory never made it together. We see the tombstones and the last page written by Amy but I’ve always thought this was too much of a fairybook ending. I think torchwood or the great intelligence found Amy and twisted her against the doctor. She’d want revenge for losing Rory and would know fighting the doctor out in the open you’d never win. So the girl who waited, waits till she meets the doctor again for revenge. Very out there but if not Amy I’d definitely go with Susan as a very close second

    • @verpsa1295
      @verpsa1295 9 днів тому +1

      And I know this would make her just about 100 years old and she doesn’t have a Scottish accent so this is probably the least likely theory but if it isn’t her I do think there’s something not right about Amy and rory getting their happy ending with no strings attached i just don’t see it never sat right with me

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      That ending was too perfectly wrapped but the sentiment was there. Could be a cool way to go, having her turn on The Doctor. I have seen people suggest that same idea but with Susan instead which I guess could work better simply due to the age aspect.

  • @verpsa1295
    @verpsa1295 9 днів тому +1

    Another one is someone who is close to the doctor who has possibly met time like the 13th doctor did. At the very least could have a connection to that whole series

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      That could be a cool connection. I would love more explanation around that idea from flux.

    • @verpsa1295
      @verpsa1295 9 днів тому

      @@TheLaneDW if they had made that the whole of 13s story from the first season I feel Jodie would’ve been able to show more of her emotions because a lot of people hate her and it’s not her fault she’s a brilliant actress and to be honest if anyone deserves a second run at being the doctor again it should be her

  • @KevinChantal
    @KevinChantal 8 днів тому +1

    Okay my ( I admit it) boring idea is, that there is no great mystery around her. She is just the some kind of an all knowing narrator so she has no greater purpose.

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  7 днів тому

      I mean I wouldn't say that is boring. Could be an interesting way to take it. If it wasn't for the reveal that Ruby's mum wasn't important I would believe it more, but having 2 mystery characters be no one important back to back might not happen IMO.

  • @TomCee53
    @TomCee53 9 днів тому +1

    Don’t use the word SOLVED unless you mean it. Truth in advertising.
    That said, I’m thinking she’s the TARDIS. “Never seen a TARDIS before?”

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      Thinking she is a TARDIS is bold but a cool idea. Also the title, I have added a question mark to it. It wasn’t intended to mislead, and I do not believe it has really but I have changed that to make it more open.

  • @davidmacfarlane1763
    @davidmacfarlane1763 9 днів тому +2

    Frequently appeared? umm that is a stretch.

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому +1

      She has been in half the episodes. That is frequent enough to be something to think about. Either way she is super interesting to me.

  • @Saint_Dan132
    @Saint_Dan132 9 днів тому +1

    i want her to be Suzan out for revenge for being abandoned all those years ago

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому +1

      That would be a pretty cool way to go 😂

    • @Saint_Dan132
      @Saint_Dan132 9 днів тому

      @@TheLaneDW 😁😁

    • @Joanna-il2ur
      @Joanna-il2ur 8 днів тому

      Susan wasn’t abandoned. She chose to stay with her boyfriend and rebuild London after the Dalek invasion. In the future. How does she travel back without her own Tardis?

  • @simonmillard8931
    @simonmillard8931 9 днів тому +1

    She could even be a guardian

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      Not sure what a gaurdian is, but I shall give it a look.

    • @simonmillard8931
      @simonmillard8931 9 днів тому

      @@TheLaneDW look up the key to time season and mawdryn undead/terminus/enlightenment

  • @paulshorney3465
    @paulshorney3465 7 днів тому +1

    Meddling monk 🤔

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  7 днів тому +1

      Having seen his first serial recently? I would love that and it could fit to be honest.

    • @paulshorney3465
      @paulshorney3465 7 днів тому

      @@TheLaneDW it's only been nearly 60 years since the monk was seen! Lol

  • @cyriljackal
    @cyriljackal 8 днів тому +1

    Totally wrong. She's Iris wildthyme

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  8 днів тому

      Not a clue who that is 😂, I will have to look into it.

  • @gaiauwur5944
    @gaiauwur5944 9 днів тому +1

    The máster?

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  9 днів тому

      Easily could be, but the master has been in like 5 of the last 6 series so it would be nice if it wasnt IMO.

  • @bobsherwood3542
    @bobsherwood3542 10 днів тому +2

    Hecuba, the Toymaker's sister and Queen of Time?

    • @TheLaneDW
      @TheLaneDW  10 днів тому +1

      Im assuming thats a character from the show’s existing lore. Could definitely be, I did not know they existed 😂.

    • @lesliepaulkovacs6442
      @lesliepaulkovacs6442 9 днів тому +2

      I’m going with Clara. Remember, she’s taking the long way around with Me. Also, look at the Snow and how it was used by the Great Intelligence, where we saw an earlier version of Clara. Who happened to use an Umbrella in that episode.
      Remember, she is the Impossible Girl.