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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Eachine Razor 1.2m. Review and maiden. Available as Kit, PNP, FPV or RTF versions. Wonderful compact motor glider for slope soaring, FPV and general flying. Eachine Safe FCB, VC400CP AIO FPV.
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Probably one of the only people on earth with enough bottle to do an un-powered maiden flight over water.
You need to find some local RC friends.......we do this stuff everyday.....just not on camera!
Happy Flying!
What about every rc pilot flying unpowered gliders?
@@nickhayley This isn't a glider and i'd take a guess that they do their maidens over water.
The biggest risk is landing in the demolition site behind me. Any mistake would send the plane away from the water
After 5 weeks it has finally arrived 30 minutes ago.... now refreshing myself with this video....turned 65 yesterday so they missed by birthday by a day...bugger....Spring is almost with us in the UK ...excited to get this in the air pretty soon ..Thanks again for the review.
From the moment it left your hand you could tell this was gonna be a sweet little bird
Yes, just right
Wow, Eachine have got it right, as soon as it left your hand, it handled and turned so nice...
Ya a real improvement over their last attempt. Goes to show when it comes to airframe design if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Yes, nice design that works as a plane should.
its a fiddly task but you could add a small amount of tape to one prop blade, run it up and see if it gets worse or better on the wobble. worse, take tape off and try the other prop. and that little glider is great and flies silky smooth. if it had rudder control that would make it perfect.
Great little glider, flies really nice on a slope with 18650 2S batteries and the VC-400 Vtx. Steady and stable in stabilize mode. Really like the RTL functionality in that it flies a much tighter radius than the ZOHD Kopilot FC does and it’s at a higher altitude too, so there’s far less risk of hitting an obstruction..
After falling in love with the little drift as a pocket cruiser, this is very tempting :). Looking forward to further vids with this little guy.
Hello Andrew
I know you did this review 2 years ago, but I wanted to thank you for your review. I am having a lot of fun with this little bird. Best regards Steve Lucas
Same here Stev, I'm still flying it regularly
My Razor arrived today! Can't wait to give it a go.
Yes it looks a lot like my drift but with a little larger wing. I would add a rudder to, don't know why but it just seems right. A very nice flying glider as you expressed while flying it. Thanks once again for demonstrating it, and Happy Flying.
Looked very smooth flight. Must admit that’s the first video I see you do with a overcast sky.
Very stable little glider. Instead of tape, you could scrape off some material from the heavier side blade using an xacto knife and sandpaper. Tape might fall off during flight.
I like the semi-elliptical wing.
Looks like a good little sloper too.
Smart man with a maiden like that, he knows which direction its coming with a failure or mistake . he can prepare ahead in his mind how to react well ahead of time
Yes in some ways it's easier on the slope with all that extra lift
@@AndrewNewton will deff heed that advise for future use. Every little bit helps. I'd certainly drool in your garage with all those planes. Id find a way to fly them all each day one way or another. Lol
"Yay Yea that's a glider" Looks nice on the slope Thanks Andrew
Yes, it's just a good size for an all round sloper
Looks like ZOHD is making this one for Banggood/Eachine. Nice plane, think I'm gonna get one.
Extremely stable for such a lightweight glider ;-) Looks like a keeper. See you in the Air!
Yes this one's a keeper
That works well! Nice little sloper. Well behaved.
This is more like it! It is so much better than the last Eachine release. It looks like a winner!
Must be a different designer
Portable, nice to take on holiday! Thanks for the review!
Looking good Andrew it looks and flies pretty good from what I see.
iv seriously got to stop buying planes and wings. My house is starting to look terminal 5 at Heathrow....Would another one hurt? Hmmmmmm
my living room ceiling has no room left and i have planes on the wall now and i still pretty much only fly one ha ha.
@@stevefox3763 wow...some might say thats silly, i say its awesome..👍🏽
Lol me too another 4 turned up today. Can’t resist a bargain🤪🤪
@@theBodger Geeeez..🤯
Awesome, slopes like a champ, i have the kit one in build but run into a few issues over parts due to suppliers getting it wrong, i will have eagletree guardian in mine, have high hopes for it
Lovely setup and very stable platform.
Sweet little bird - good review as always!
Could you please make another rc sailing video. Keep up the good work👍❤️
Amazing plane my friend very good review keep flying every day my friend
Some comments regarding the build and setup:
1. I suggest to unmount the servo arm and lock it to a push rod - then insert and secure tail tube and mount the arm back
2. Do not apply too much force to the screws - they are plastic and "nuts" are metal
3. I used FD802-clone receiver set to SBUS mode - but transmitter (FrSky DJT) had to be set to PPM to communicate.
4. Don't forget to map the 3-position switch to 5th channel if you want to change modes.
5. Had to calibrate throttle (usual way - plug the battery when throttle is all way up, wait to two-beep indication and set the throttle to zero) - otherwise motor was spinning only when throttle is 80%
and up. Even after a calibration - ESC seems to have only 3-4 steps from zero to full (probably can be reconfigured).
Good tips thanks Dmitry
I recently had to deal with an out of balance folding prop that used screws as pivots for the blades. I used a longer screw for the blade on the light side, and added nuts to that screw until they balanced.
Swapped the pivot bolt orientation, both bolt heads were on the same side
I pre-ordered one of these in mid September and it's still not here yet. I think they must be using another RC plane to deliver it.
Beauty
What a fantastic place to fly . Jealous a bit. :)
Seems like this is an oem from zohd/Sonicmodell. Great demo. Now I want one. I really like the Drift and this looks like good partner for it.
Same but bigger, and yes it is ZOHD gear I'm convinced.
Thank you for another great video!
That looks awesome Andrew. I can't wait to get mine in the air. It looks like what I was hoping, a nice little sloper and good on the field too. Think I'll put some snap flaps on too :D
Rudder and snap flaps and it would be a wicked little aerobatic sloper
As always great video and instructional build. Thanks again. This looks like one I need to get.
Thanks 👍
awesome drew.
13:17 that made me flinch.
15a isn't too much for li-ion if you have good cells they can handle double that, they won't even get warm at 15a.
Very nice plane Mr. Andrew
Just have more passence fine tunning the folding propeller mate you'll be fine put a very small lite-weight weight inside the nose cone on the prop it self.
Wow that's Great! Looks like a nice Bang for the Buck!....
Yes, the motor/prop do sound noisy with vibration. I have had some luck weighing each "leaf" separately on a scale, assuming the hub is more in balance itself and has less effect on overall balance.
Bolts holding the blades in was the problem, both heads on the same side!
The prop is out of balance because both screw heads are on the same side of hub. Reverse one and see if it balances:)
Correct
where the hell are you living? it is one of the most pleasant places in the world. Love it!
Australia, Victoria
You obviously ain't from Australia mate...
No one likes Victoria Cept Victorians!!
Rest of Auz is Much better!!!
Looks like a winner! Another great review Andrew. What size is the stock spinner? Also, do you know if the pnp version comes with the flight controller?
Only the FPV version has the FCB. 7.5 x 4.5 prop
Any chance of a clear high def picture of the stock FC next time Andrew?
Clearer view in the next video. It is basically a Kopilot without the settings board
@@AndrewNewton Thanks Andrew. Appreciated.
Beautiful airplane, and a great slope to fly it. Let us know how the prop balancing goes.
I reversed one of the prop pivot bolts so the heads were on opposite side then it balanced better. Design fault having both bolt heads on the same side.
Very nice
Soooo exciting #1 might have to order one of these. Looks like a great travel glider you can pack in a suitcase easily for transport to (Torquay) well presented. I flew the Phoenix 2400 yesterday. I must see how to put a brake on the prop via your video. Thanks mate.
It's a sweetie. Video coming with the ESC brake
Ordered the RTF as Bg offered a deal for $175 USD. Have you ever though of going into sales? You sold me!
i like your work,real excellent,am aviation enthusiast in Kenya and interested in sharing with you?
Why does the rth works in two different places different? One time in circles like it should and at another place in zick zack like a snake. Same plane same setup??
Something on the plane changed, or cg too far back
Hey there, loving the UA-cam videos, been watching the eachine razor loads. I'm flying an f959 but looking to move on, love the gliding/soaring aspect of planes so wondering whether to go for s razor next, an XK a800 or something else. I want to still be able to get it in the car so small enough or detachable wings would be good. Would love to hear your thoughts, thanks man keep the videos coming.
Definitely the Razor. Very well designed
Nice one👌👍😍
Sweet I've been looking for some reviews on this plane. I'm thinking l might get the pnp model and put the ko-pilot and zohd camera in it sounds like a good combo to me. It looks like the zohd camera would fit in the slot provided.
Made for the VC400 ZOHD camera
💯Nice flight Andrew , when you figure out what prop to chance it with, please tell us! SEMPER FI 🐾🐾🐾☠️
Just had to swap the blade pivot bolts so they were symmetrical rather than both heads on the same side.
Hi Andrew im new to the hobby but does it come with all the electronics?
Thanks for the great review Andy, do you think it will carry the DJI Vista? I wonder if there's a 3d bracket
Yes it would carry it OK.
I've just ordered one and I want to buy a decent folding prop for it. Can you tell me the motor shaft size please?
3mm shaft
@@AndrewNewton Many thanks.
Eachine doesn't really make any of their own stuff. Almost all of their products are rebadged something else or are built by a different company. chances are whoever built the drift also built this
I was nervous watching this video of the plane flying over water.
Love your very informative reviews, as usual....! Looking closely at my first set of fpv goggles, can you do / give opinion of fpvg for a newcomer with room to move. Much appreciated.
This actually looks perfect for a newcomer to FPV. Even as an experienced FPV flyer it's always nice to have a compact cruiser on hand for longer flights or for when you're on the road. The Zohd package here makes it easy to set up and easy to use. Combine this with a medium range control system like Crossfire. Do not FPV with Spectrum or other short range receivers!! Not that they're not fine for RC, but because they are really easy to outfly under FPV without realizing it - resulting in a lost model.
Try before you decide if at all possible. FXT Vipers if you need glasses, Skyzone or Fatshark if they suit your face and eyes. My Aomway Commanders are no longer sold. DJI HD Digitals if you can afford them. Just a screen if you cant get used to goggles
@@AndrewNewton thanks Andrew
Hi Andrew, do you know if the PNP version comes with GPS/RTH feature? It's unclear on eachine's website whether the non-RTF version comes with the same hardware...appreciate your channel!
Mine is the FPV version. But it's unclear from the product page if the Safe board and GPS are included.
Hi! Whats your favorite slope soarer? Ive had the u-glider for 2 years now and like it a lot but would be nice to have a plane that carry a little more energy
Phoenix 1600 with some mods
Any guesses as to why Zohd didn't bring this market?
It‘s a collab between eachine and Zohd so they kind of did
Andrew, could you post the link to the manual you were able to download ? I can’t read the printed one very well either..
Banggood product page
Hello
Your Videos are Great.
I bought now a Kit Version because i have some spare Parts?
Will work a 2306 2250kv Motor on it?
It was a 6x3 prop on it But i cant find a folding prop in this size.
Will work a 7060 or 7540 like the Original one?
Limited to 2S it might be OK, but prop is too big really
Guys. Thank you for all the info provided. I just received the AIO RTF version with camera. But how to I get access to the cam? I mean where is the flight finally recorded and how can I download this? Is there any storage card hidden somewhere or do I have to wirelessly connect my iPhone? I am new into this world so forgive me my "lost-feeling".
The camera and VTx only transmit the video signal, no recording as it comes. You need FPV goggles with DVR to record.
Hi Andrew thanks for that review do you think i can fitted a 1300 3 cels lipo
Yes it will squeeze in
Hi, if you had to choose a plane for an intermediate pilot would you choose Eachine Razor or rather the PhoenixS? More for some field flying but sometimes also slope. Also, would a 2s 2200mah li-po fit in the razor? It's 10x3,5x1,5 cm.
Cant choose between them, both excellent. Razor designed more for FPV, Phoenix designed for gliding, both excellent slopers. Yes the 2S 2200 will fit
@@AndrewNewton thanks 😊
Hi Andrew...reduced from £104 to £76 about to buy but haven't seen any more decent reviews except yours ... should I buy ???
Yes definitely Alan. I have no reservations recommending this glider. Just a well designed little glider or park flier.
I have this glider and enjoy flying it, also have the ZOHD Drift and this is like its big brother.
On it's way
Received and built my razor 1200 this weekend, I found when it was sitting on my bench that It was very much out of balance left to right with the wings fitted, so I took them off to weight the wings and found that it's left wing was 10g heavier than the right, should I add 10g of weight to the opposite wing on the cg line and half way down the wing?. Or has the weight difference been designed in?
I have never bothered with lateral balance but it wouldn't hurt.
Hi Andrew, how long did it take your Razor to lock the GPS to the satellites? Mine sits and sits without getting lock, easily 10 mind before I get fed up and switch it off...
5 minutes initially. Can vary a lot
@@AndrewNewton Hi again Andrew,so 45 mins without lock is a bad thing? It was sat on a table indoors, but might now try outside and see if that makes z difference. Feel a convo with Banggood comin g..
@@AndrewNewton Hi Andrew, please ignore my earlier post... Guess what? I took the bl@@dy thing outside and got an almost instant GPS lock! Looking forward to a calm weekend to try this plane out!
@@bigblokeinuk8974 Excellent news. Sometimes can find sats when you're near a window inside.
Hi Andrew, Eachine Razor, ZOHD Drift or U Glider?
Razor best all rounder, Drift sub 250g, U Glider best thermaller
Hello Andrew i have some problems with setting the esc brake and i can't find anything in the instructions manual what came with this rtf Razor. It's a 30 amp eachine esc , please help me to find the instructions or explain it to me . Greetings from Gerben.
All covered in the Razor setup video
@@AndrewNewton Thank you Andrew,i have found your setup video now the esc brake works fine. Greetings from Gerben.
Nice.....Wich one would you choose? Eachine or zohd?
Both are excellent
Hi mr Andrew, I was wondering if you could provide me with a diagram of the echine safe controllers gps wiring as far as what is vcc , ground , rx , tx on the end that plugs into the board , need to make up a new cable
I dont have a pin diagram sorry. Mine is packed away in storage so I cant even work it out for you.
@@AndrewNewton thank you , I figured it out , does it need satellites to arm the motor
What is the weight ready to go?
Bruce
il y a 17 heures
And the flying weight without FPV gear was ???????????
Andrew Newton
Andrew Newton
il y a 13 heures
About 400g
Hey Andrew, great review! I ordered and took delivery of the FPV version as well as a ZOHD LionPack battery. Can you recommend a Receiver model to install? I need something compatible with the Radiomaster TX16S and the Eachine/ZOHD flight control board on the Razor, any recommendations appreciated.
I would recommend any D16 receiver with SBUS. Radiomaster R161 would be perfect
@@AndrewNewton Cheers Andrew!
Caffeine en route to you :-)
@@johnbortscheller1111 Thanks so much John.
John, I also used an R161 and get very decent RSSI with it. What I did was mount the RX just aft of the square joiner piece and ran one ant lead aft out one of the air exhaust vents taped to the fuse aft, and I ran the other vertically out a 4 inch stiff plastic tube mounted straight up and out the canopy cover just forward of the GPS unit ant poking straight up so it can get the strongest signal from your radios little dipole antenna
Just order one , I have a couple of f405 wing fc would one fit this plane ? Not worried about weight just renewed my registration lol
Yes it will fit. The Razor was never designed to be sub 250g anyway
@@AndrewNewton what's the biggest battery you think it could fit
just built mine ...come to do the decals ...duh !! backing paper pulls off with the decal wtf !! any tips Andrew ???
Ha! No you just have to keep trying, maybe find someone with sharp fingernails.
@@AndrewNewton thanks ...oh well back to the spray paint and tape...
@@AndrewNewton yay persevered and got there in the end...
That looks like the ZOHD aio camera
Yes, rebranded
do you use RF chokes now a days on the esc wire . I had 2 crashes for no clear reason on 2.4
Not usually. What radio system?
@@AndrewNewton DX 9
@@superdon1chw If the signal losses are in the same location then maybe it's local RF interference. Otherwise check for broken receiver antennas or bad placement.
@@AndrewNewton Thanks
@@superdon1chw spectrum gear is known for such problems.
Would this be a good trainer?
Great second plane once you have destroyed your first. Start with a pusher like a Bixler 2 or Skysurfer X8
ha ha, you'd cringe at some of my props, i never balance anything and on one of my planes the props are drilled out to fit a larger shaft and almost always off a little bit and im like, that will do lol.
Is this the rtf version and what is the weight and does it need to be registered?
FPV version. No registration where I live, but it might be different for you.
@@AndrewNewton so you have no FAA systems where you live cause ALL FAA REGULATIONS say over 250g(.55 lbs) MUST BE and respectfully you never answered my questions....is it the RTF version and the WEIGHT
I'll say it again, it's the FPV version (there is no RTF version), and I showed weighing the plane in the video. I am in Australia, FAA is a USA authority. Please watch the video and read the description before asking and re-asking questions.
@@AndrewNewton i looked it up on the site and it says the fpv is a rtf and i have family in the government militia who says there is always a form of faa everywhere not just a american thing...and don't you dare call them a liar cause i use to me an air force drone pilot and i know all flight regulations...plus you will be calling the banggood site a liar also
@@obeymelissa584 Chill man, we are having a friendly chat about a fun hobby. You are right, there is a RTF version bit.ly/33yqY9F but mine is not RTF. I operate under the Australian CASA guidelines, which do not require registration at this stage. Banggood does often make mistakes in the product descriptions.
wow didnt know eachine made planes.
Eachine is just the Banggood House Re-brand. They may commission some manufacturers to supply stuff to their specs occasionally but I doubt if they have their own design and factory facilities.
Why not just disassemble prop &
weigh the blades?
The hub is the problem
@@AndrewNewton wow thats not good at all. A squiffy lathe? insuficent pressure on injection moulding? so many causes you could do a in depth balancing video to see exactly what is wrong with it but that probably be boreing but I would defowatch it!
Please tell me if the FPV version includes a radio receiver, flight controller and GPS module? Or do you need to buy them separately?
The banggood's website (bit.ly/371FuYe) does not say this.
im just waiting, until he slopes one of his wings
Nah, wings dont make good slopers, apart from the FX-61
It's good value. If I was buying, I would go for the PnP version personally, and it's only around £100 all in! But since Xmas is cancelled around here , I've just bought myself two cheap rock crawlers, ftx-rc.com/index.php?_route_=rc-kits/rock-crawlers/ftx-ravine-1-10-rtr-m-o-a--rock-buggy-crawler-rtr which I will be attempting to convert into something bigger. 8 wheel steer?
Enjoy the xmas coffee Andrew. 🎅☕☕☕ 👍
Peter! Thanks so much, I like coffee. 8 wheel steer sounds epic
@@AndrewNewton I recommend decaf. Well, my doctor recommended it anyway.😢
@@wordreet Double shot espresso, maybe not 3 but one to start the day.
@@AndrewNewton Heh, I mostly drink tea at home now, and coffee at work, decaf both. I got used to it very quickly.
Did the plane try to slap your face ?
Yes, it was displeased with my piloting
some info. at 8:28, remember, you are compressing PLASTIC !!! at 7:43, at Least the elevator servo is correctly Located. at 5:20, the root chords of the stabs SHOULD be Equal. vert-stab is extra large and Heavy. at 8:43, the (outboard) location of the mass of the aileron servos reduces roll-axis stability; the aft location of that mass further wonkifies the dom. at 10:08, it is not clear whether elevator control horn is Correctly located. these are sorts of mistakes that Manufacturers Continue to make. expressing cg location as a distance, only, is Less informative than also saying it as, a Percentage of Chord. googletranslate
I'll note with some disappointment that my Eachine Razor flew away on the first outing. Gah. $280 down the drain. I've reached out to Eachine (no response) and Banggood (give us evidence, they say) and I just fell burned by them all. Cool plane. But won't buy Eachine again.
Oh no! Should have stuck to manual for a while maybe. I love mine, specially as a sloper.
"I am loving it" "eachine"
Heard 100 times in the video
Its more of a promotional video