This is one of those applicants that I think would benefit most from doing things completely unrelated to medicine. She’s clearly dedicated and ready for med school but out of thousands of applicants with physician parents and EMT experience there has to be something that makes the application reviewer want to meet you in person.
For her I think it all came down to her school list. She applied to too many public in state schools like dr ryan said. And the private ones were all top tier schools, leaving barely within her range
@@J.W.-is8oj some public schools accept out of state students with sub 1% acceptance rate, much more competitive than even the top private schools (if we are only looking at acceptance rate)
no part of this video reduced anxiety for me lol. Decent GPA and MCAT, school list that mostly matched stats, decent PS and ECs, but no acceptances. Starting to look like you need some sort of "X factor" to be admitted to any MD, not just T20
Youre taking away the wrong message. The lesson is to be a well-rounded applicant. There is more to getting into med school than having good grades and a high mcat. And know what schools your stats will get you into
@@cocolina53348 that’s just picky. Why do you need to participate in sports and clubs just for universities to accept you? That’s stupid. What if you just desire to strive in academics?
What I feel may have gotten this person comes down to: 1) School List (The ones that were not advantageous). 2) Personal Statement (Hardest part for many students). 3) Possibly Letters Of Recommendation (Something hard for anyone to gauge why The apply struggled).
This was super helpful as I'm writing my PS ! My observation is that I'm just not feeling a sense of passion? I could be completely off... I admire everything she has done and undoubtedly she could talk more about the many people she encountered that reinforced her decision of being a physician, which could maybe make her seem more personable and like a more caring future physician
Also the second question in the secondary was like Dr. Gray mentioned, a little murky, this could've been an awesome response if the applicant had told us what she did to improve the societal inequality, it left me wondering why she didn't do something about the interpreting problem :/ I also think there's an overall neutral/negative tone throughout every essay, when I feel like a optimistic tone could transform this whole application. Wishing this future doc gets in this next cycle :)
School wants diversity and school might find her application, while checking all boxes, is not anything special. That’s unfortunate. I hope she will spend more time outside of being a premed to enjoy the richness of life. Long school of medicine has a great video about what make a good application.
LMAO yeah I’m taking the MCAT next year and feel like I have NO experience outside of coursework. Which I have sort of a strange situation but still. I feel like it’s extremely competitive for no reason sometimes. Obviously it has to be competitive but damn
@@tonywalkerYougotswaw I actually got my first acceptance two weeks ago and I have 3 more interviews ahead so far. Your story matters!! Thanks for asking btw, this made me smile
If you have a physician parent, should you definitely plan on writing about that in your PS? I didn't feel like that was my "why", but I wouldn't want to raise any concerns.
I believe it should be included as an influence. How much influence and the reasons behind that narrative, that’s what you’ll be judged on by the readers.
^ ^ This ^ ^ she would have been a shoe in at any DO school or lower tier MD school. Stats is 1/3 of your rubric score, interview is 1/3 and HoLiStIcs is 1/3 (your essays). Stand out in your essays!!! And not by researching for a year either, do some paid full-time work to build up your professionalism and communication skills. 20 schools is the bare minimum anyone should be applying to, most should apply to more, especially anyone with a common story that doesn't really stand out (basically most traditional students are a dime a dozen and need to do something to make themselves seem more unique in some way).
It's an important lesson that trying to save money by *only* applying to 20 schools can cost you more in both time and money than applying to 35 the first time.
@@alphaspartan lowkey that’s not the lesson, her school list was insane, like her stats are great don’t get me wrong, but she applied to some ungodly competitive schools, and if her extracurriculars and essays are not the most amazing things ever (which again they were great but not like unbelievably great), her stats don’t compete at those schools it’s an unfortunate reality of those private schools and applying to out of state public schools is always a bad idea. She’ll be fine tho she’ll get into med school she just has to apply to some lower tier private schools as well.
@@devankumar8369 I completely agree with you. I was going to say she shouldn't have applied so top heavy but then I thought who am I to judge, she could have hedged her bets by adding 15 lower tier to her list to cover all her bases and never have to ask "what if"?
@@alphaspartan Are you sarcastic? should i apply to 35 schools instead of 25 schools? I am going in with good stats but my mindset is that there is no such thing as a safety school. i was going to do 25 schools. My comment/question is not sarcastic. i think BEMO? or another cie on youtube says we should apply to 40 schools. i think they give you that directive to make sure you get into a school. i could be way wrong.
@@alphaspartan After this episode, i think BEMO or the other cie might be right, you need to apply to 40 schools. Applying to medical school will be the same price ish as my yearly undergraduate tuition! i am thinking you are serious, we need to apply to 35 schools. That is a good racket for medical schools. Any other tips we should know? Thanks!
She got too cocky with that 515. Never assume a lower ranked MD school or even applying DO is beneath you. Good schools have 20 515 students applying for one seat, you gotta stand out some other way. That low tier MD school or DO school would kill for one student who scored a 515 on the MCAT to apply, lol.
@@assassinruler1483 that's tough to be honest. Yes you'll stand out as an 18 year old, but maybe not in a good way. You'll have to fight to prove you're mature enough to handle med school and the responsibility of being a doctor and having patients trust you when you're so darn young compared to most other med students. Prove you know what you're getting yourself into through shadowing and clinical exeperiences. Actions speak louder than your own words though, go get leadership experience and get your letters of recommendation writers talk about how mature you are for your age and how you're a leader. And of course in your interviews you'll need to come across as a mature and experienced person. Life experience is the biggest differentiator between applicants I feel like, it's stuff you can write about in your essays and make you a better doctor because you know what your patients are going through. The avg age of medical students keeps getting older and older.
I don’t like the comments about her father. My father is a psychiatrist so I had to put “physician” on there. But he’s not in my life whatsoever. In fact when I was born my parents were already split up and my father did not even pay child support. Now I am worried that they are gonna see that my dad is a doctor and have the same concerns as dr gray.
She applied to competitive schools. You need more than good stats to get into a top ranking school. If she'd applied to low ranking schools or DO with these stats, she would have 100% gotten in. Don't get cocky (most med students are at least a little arrogant, it just comes with the territory).
@@centeenarose6994 yeah US World News ranks colleges, including medical, and the MSAR shows GPA and MCAT averages for each school. You'll notice a correlation between stats and school rankings. So just use that as a rule of thumb. You're more likely to get into a school where you're at or above average stat wise than a school where you're hopelessly outgunned by your fellow interviewees who (on paper) make you look like a lower achieving student. Dr. Gray is right about tailoring your app to the schools mission as well, and you're going to have a better chance getting into an individual school if your essays resemble what the school stands for, e.g. prove you're interested or connected in some way to rural communities if you're applying to a rural school or do some research if you're applying to a research heavy school.
I noticed that her only non-science letter was only assigned to one school. Could that have been a problem? A lot of schools require at least one non science LOR
There is a box on the right that says “number of schools assigned” that says 1 for the non science letter. I might be mistaken but it seems like she only sent her non-science letter to one school? Just curious how that would factor into this process if true.
Regarding the statement that late June is good for taking the MCAT, I graduate with my BS in early May 2021 and was planning to take the MCAT closer to August/ September 2021. Is that way too far out for 2022 application cycle?
@@alphaspartan my thoughts exactly, however I think the July 17th date is what I'm going to register for. Give me time to study prior and time on the back end for processing. I won't be working so I'll have a solid 2.5 months to study.
@@zachvrobel2478 I took my exam with about the same time table as your describing and I did good enough. Don't be afraid to push the date back if you're not ready based on your practice exam scores. I had a friend that studied with me for the exact same amount of time with the same materials and she got a 487 while I scored well above 500. It's crazy how much variance there can be with this test!
@@alphaspartan Thank you for the information, that is very reassuring. I plan to do just that. I have heard about the variances but thats the first real life example I've seen. I don't have anyone following my same timeline so I am going to invest in an online test prep to help with fine tuning the areas I need the most work on. I work better on my own in these situation too.
@@zachvrobel2478 good luck friend. Just make yourself a plan and stick to it. Adapt when necessary. That's how med school will be too! I bought the Kaplan 7 book review set and UWorld plus the AAMC MCAT materials directly from their website. I would suggest you buy the AAMC materials, UWorld and use Khan Academy which is free. Anything else is too expensive and I'd only recommend it if you have more money than you know what to do with.
With her application I can't imagine her not getting into almost every DO school she applied to. TBH she probably could've gotten in if she applied to more reasonable schools, more pvt schools or public schools in FL NY MI
Yes! She would have def. been accepted. They expect high stat people to get into MD schools, so they accept them and take their tuition deposit with the expectation that they will drop the seat and the school pockets the money. Works 60% of the time, every time.
@@alphaspartan I disagree. No need to have applied DO had she had a better list. She’s very competitive for MD schools and I don’t think it was necessary applying DO the first time around. Now as a reapplicant she should apply top tier DO to not have to have to apply a third time
@@andrescorona7044 actually I think we do agree. I don't think she "needed" to apply DO either if she'd done a better school list the first time, but if she had applied DO the first time without a solid school list, she wouldn't be reapplying now and wasting another year of her life. It sounds like you agree with me by saying she should apply DO for her 2nd cycle as well. 😅
@@UsRUncharted It stands for "overrepresented minority/majority." Honestly the girl's annunciation sounds like she's White or Asian-American, so I wouldn't entirely doubt if she was ORM
I am middle eastern/white, also an over represented minority and got into plenty of schools with similar stats. Her school list wasn’t good that’s pretty much it. She fixes that and she is good to go
@@thesneakygamer4343 You're Middle Eastern? My friend, no, you're not an ORM. You are exactly what medical schools want to make their class more "diverse." I'm sorry bro. I'm sure you did well in school and on exams but you are by no means an ORM.
@@CXY96 Iranian/middle eastern are considered over-represented. Proportionally they are actually more represented in medicine than any other group. I have talked to ad-coms that consider us over-represented. Also in the AMCAS app, middle eastern is white so they can’t distinguish anyway.
Also it sucks to see but I am an MS1 and I have gone through a tone of all reviews and interviewed plenty of applicants. I would consider her application pretty average, she struck me as a standard med school applicant and she didn’t stand out. If she diversified her school list a bit she still would have gotten in somewhere good though.
@@thesneakygamer4343 Oh for sure, I didn't think her application was particularly unique. But it seemed like she had the drive to go into medicine and good enough stats. Regarding your heritage, although adcoms may consider you to be "over-represented," let me say this. Your name doesn't evoke the same time of aversion compared to a "Chang, Wang, Zhang." Racism against Asians is accepted, especially among higher academia. Racism against Middle Easterns is a no-go, career-ending move for higher education.
This is one of those applicants that I think would benefit most from doing things completely unrelated to medicine. She’s clearly dedicated and ready for med school but out of thousands of applicants with physician parents and EMT experience there has to be something that makes the application reviewer want to meet you in person.
For her I think it all came down to her school list. She applied to too many public in state schools like dr ryan said. And the private ones were all top tier schools, leaving barely within her range
@@J.W.-is8oj not if youre out of state
@@J.W.-is8oj some public schools accept out of state students with sub 1% acceptance rate, much more competitive than even the top private schools (if we are only looking at acceptance rate)
Thank you for showing the secondary as well! Learning and seeing more of the application definitely helps reduce the anxiety about the entire process.
no part of this video reduced anxiety for me lol. Decent GPA and MCAT, school list that mostly matched stats, decent PS and ECs, but no acceptances. Starting to look like you need some sort of "X factor" to be admitted to any MD, not just T20
Seeing people with good stats not get in makes me worried for myself 😭
Ay you got it trust yourself you can do it fs
you need to be careful with your school list, if its too top heavy you won't make it'. Need to have safeties and dream schools.
@@lilcluch1634 this is what I needed to hear
Youre taking away the wrong message. The lesson is to be a well-rounded applicant. There is more to getting into med school than having good grades and a high mcat. And know what schools your stats will get you into
@@cocolina53348 that’s just picky. Why do you need to participate in sports and clubs just for universities to accept you? That’s stupid. What if you just desire to strive in academics?
What I feel may have gotten this person comes down to:
1) School List (The ones that were not advantageous).
2) Personal Statement (Hardest part for many students).
3) Possibly Letters Of Recommendation (Something hard for anyone to gauge why The apply struggled).
Thank you for showing the secondaries. I think that's what killed her.
that "i have an itch to be a doctor.. and I just CaNt StOp ScRaTcHiNg!!!" probably didn't help either omgggg
@@karan_karan_karan that was cute tho
This was super helpful as I'm writing my PS ! My observation is that I'm just not feeling a sense of passion? I could be completely off... I admire everything she has done and undoubtedly she could talk more about the many people she encountered that reinforced her decision of being a physician, which could maybe make her seem more personable and like a more caring future physician
Also the second question in the secondary was like Dr. Gray mentioned, a little murky, this could've been an awesome response if the applicant had told us what she did to improve the societal inequality, it left me wondering why she didn't do something about the interpreting problem :/ I also think there's an overall neutral/negative tone throughout every essay, when I feel like a optimistic tone could transform this whole application. Wishing this future doc gets in this next cycle :)
That’s the vibes I got about her application overall.
With this applicant, maybe it could’ve been useful to ask about her letters of recommendation? Since it was hard to identify an obvious weakness
Bruh did you see her school list?
Having to retake the MCAT? Brutal
THIS CANNEL IS AMAZING. NOTHING LIKE IT. THANK YOU!!!!!
Most times it's not about cut-offs and numbers. It's more about mission fit.
Her school list was intense, that had to have been a factor
Honestly
Dr. Gray, could you do a video on the TMDSAS application? Specifically on how to format the activities section with the limited word count
I’ve been having a ton of problems with this one!
I think I remember one of his older videos being a TMDSAS one, cant remember which exactly tho
Tbh I liked the pun at the end of her essay
More secondary reviews please!
good advice and sometimes the truth is hard to hear but its honest advice.
These are so helpful for this upcoming cycle! Thank you so much!
School wants diversity and school might find her application, while checking all boxes, is not anything special. That’s unfortunate. I hope she will spend more time outside of being a premed to enjoy the richness of life. Long school of medicine has a great video about what make a good application.
so what can make your application special?
Disadvantages is sexy
Possibly also letter of recommendations. Thats a factor that people always forget about.
In my experience, it was importance in my acceptance to my med school that I was exposed to clinics and hospitals since my sophomore year in Pre Med.
How do you get clinical experience?
@@abdoulmoukailou2604 volunteering
@@abdoulmoukailou2604either volunteer, or do some sort of job like CNA, PCA, EMT, etc. in a hospital setting
If she didn’t get in I am screweddddd come June
Sameeeee
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LMAO yeah I’m taking the MCAT next year and feel like I have NO experience outside of coursework. Which I have sort of a strange situation but still. I feel like it’s extremely competitive for no reason sometimes. Obviously it has to be competitive but damn
Did you guys get in?
@@tonywalkerYougotswaw I actually got my first acceptance two weeks ago and I have 3 more interviews ahead so far. Your story matters!! Thanks for asking btw, this made me smile
Can’t believe she didn’t get in smh
Kind of an intense video😭😭 great learning vid tho
If you have a physician parent, should you definitely plan on writing about that in your PS? I didn't feel like that was my "why", but I wouldn't want to raise any concerns.
I believe it should be included as an influence. How much influence and the reasons behind that narrative, that’s what you’ll be judged on by the readers.
I think the school list must have played a role, otherwise, it's hard to say
^ ^ This ^ ^ she would have been a shoe in at any DO school or lower tier MD school. Stats is 1/3 of your rubric score, interview is 1/3 and HoLiStIcs is 1/3 (your essays). Stand out in your essays!!! And not by researching for a year either, do some paid full-time work to build up your professionalism and communication skills.
20 schools is the bare minimum anyone should be applying to, most should apply to more, especially anyone with a common story that doesn't really stand out (basically most traditional students are a dime a dozen and need to do something to make themselves seem more unique in some way).
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@Zayn Forrest you’re right, no one cares 😂
her school lists wasn't bad considering her stats. Many have gotten in with slightly lower stats. tough luck.
why does 3:00 am matter? Threy are busy pre-meds with a lot on their minds.
Once again, it comes down to the school list.
All that application money wasted. That’s really unfortunate.
It's an important lesson that trying to save money by *only* applying to 20 schools can cost you more in both time and money than applying to 35 the first time.
@@alphaspartan lowkey that’s not the lesson, her school list was insane, like her stats are great don’t get me wrong, but she applied to some ungodly competitive schools, and if her extracurriculars and essays are not the most amazing things ever (which again they were great but not like unbelievably great), her stats don’t compete at those schools it’s an unfortunate reality of those private schools and applying to out of state public schools is always a bad idea. She’ll be fine tho she’ll get into med school she just has to apply to some lower tier private schools as well.
@@devankumar8369 I completely agree with you. I was going to say she shouldn't have applied so top heavy but then I thought who am I to judge, she could have hedged her bets by adding 15 lower tier to her list to cover all her bases and never have to ask "what if"?
@@alphaspartan Are you sarcastic? should i apply to 35 schools instead of 25 schools? I am going in with good stats but my mindset is that there is no such thing as a safety school. i was going to do 25 schools. My comment/question is not sarcastic. i think BEMO? or another cie on youtube says we should apply to 40 schools. i think they give you that directive to make sure you get into a school. i could be way wrong.
@@alphaspartan After this episode, i think BEMO or the other cie might be right, you need to apply to 40 schools. Applying to medical school will be the same price ish as my yearly undergraduate tuition! i am thinking you are serious, we need to apply to 35 schools. That is a good racket for medical schools. Any other tips we should know? Thanks!
Does everything. Gets rejected 😷
She needs a better school list. Pretty top-heavy list
HOWW?!!!
She got too cocky with that 515. Never assume a lower ranked MD school or even applying DO is beneath you. Good schools have 20 515 students applying for one seat, you gotta stand out some other way. That low tier MD school or DO school would kill for one student who scored a 515 on the MCAT to apply, lol.
@@assassinruler1483 that's tough to be honest. Yes you'll stand out as an 18 year old, but maybe not in a good way. You'll have to fight to prove you're mature enough to handle med school and the responsibility of being a doctor and having patients trust you when you're so darn young compared to most other med students. Prove you know what you're getting yourself into through shadowing and clinical exeperiences. Actions speak louder than your own words though, go get leadership experience and get your letters of recommendation writers talk about how mature you are for your age and how you're a leader. And of course in your interviews you'll need to come across as a mature and experienced person. Life experience is the biggest differentiator between applicants I feel like, it's stuff you can write about in your essays and make you a better doctor because you know what your patients are going through. The avg age of medical students keeps getting older and older.
@Juki Mars how do they control yield by not allowing high score students in
I don’t like the comments about her father. My father is a psychiatrist so I had to put “physician” on there. But he’s not in my life whatsoever. In fact when I was born my parents were already split up and my father did not even pay child support. Now I am worried that they are gonna see that my dad is a doctor and have the same concerns as dr gray.
Maybe in your “other experiences” essay you could talk about your Dad being absent if you feel that has impacted your journey
disagree that comment at the end of the PS was sick
I wonder how the secondaries went for the schools she got rejections
What a bunch of bologna. How did she not get in?
Her private school list was intense
@C B how do you know it was 72%?
She applied to competitive schools. You need more than good stats to get into a top ranking school. If she'd applied to low ranking schools or DO with these stats, she would have 100% gotten in. Don't get cocky (most med students are at least a little arrogant, it just comes with the territory).
@@alphaspartan how do u know which ones are high tier vs mid tier vs low tier? Is there a list somewhere?
@@centeenarose6994 yeah US World News ranks colleges, including medical, and the MSAR shows GPA and MCAT averages for each school. You'll notice a correlation between stats and school rankings. So just use that as a rule of thumb. You're more likely to get into a school where you're at or above average stat wise than a school where you're hopelessly outgunned by your fellow interviewees who (on paper) make you look like a lower achieving student. Dr. Gray is right about tailoring your app to the schools mission as well, and you're going to have a better chance getting into an individual school if your essays resemble what the school stands for, e.g. prove you're interested or connected in some way to rural communities if you're applying to a rural school or do some research if you're applying to a research heavy school.
In the most meaningful remarks, the story starts by talking about Pat, and a sentence in the middle mentions Jim. Just a heads up.
Why was this applicant rejected? Applying too high?
These medical schools should have accepted her. It's they're their damn fault we're short on doctors.
Then blame NPs/PAs for taking their jobs 🤡
@@stylewithme365 i'd be more inclined to blame the government for shoveling money to these medical institutions and hospitals than other fields.
It isn’t their fault. They filled all of their seats. What more can you ask of them?
@@robwes9227they should have more seats and be able to train more people.
I noticed that her only non-science letter was only assigned to one school. Could that have been a problem? A lot of schools require at least one non science LOR
Do you mean she had only one non-science letter of reference? Could you elaborate your point?
There is a box on the right that says “number of schools assigned” that says 1 for the non science letter. I might be mistaken but it seems like she only sent her non-science letter to one school? Just curious how that would factor into this process if true.
Regarding the statement that late June is good for taking the MCAT, I graduate with my BS in early May 2021 and was planning to take the MCAT closer to August/ September 2021. Is that way too far out for 2022 application cycle?
That's late but if you do well it's not too late. Worse situation would be to take it in June with only one month of studying and bombing the exam!
@@alphaspartan my thoughts exactly, however I think the July 17th date is what I'm going to register for. Give me time to study prior and time on the back end for processing. I won't be working so I'll have a solid 2.5 months to study.
@@zachvrobel2478 I took my exam with about the same time table as your describing and I did good enough. Don't be afraid to push the date back if you're not ready based on your practice exam scores. I had a friend that studied with me for the exact same amount of time with the same materials and she got a 487 while I scored well above 500. It's crazy how much variance there can be with this test!
@@alphaspartan Thank you for the information, that is very reassuring. I plan to do just that. I have heard about the variances but thats the first real life example I've seen. I don't have anyone following my same timeline so I am going to invest in an online test prep to help with fine tuning the areas I need the most work on. I work better on my own in these situation too.
@@zachvrobel2478 good luck friend. Just make yourself a plan and stick to it. Adapt when necessary. That's how med school will be too! I bought the Kaplan 7 book review set and UWorld plus the AAMC MCAT materials directly from their website. I would suggest you buy the AAMC materials, UWorld and use Khan Academy which is free. Anything else is too expensive and I'd only recommend it if you have more money than you know what to do with.
In my opinion it was the personal statement. She needs to step back and think the reasons of why.
Canada type shit
Bai tusi v pre med ho?
Is it actually less competitive to get into a DO program?
short and simple answer: yes.
No more… they’re less programs
With her application I can't imagine her not getting into almost every DO school she applied to. TBH she probably could've gotten in if she applied to more reasonable schools, more pvt schools or public schools in FL NY MI
Rochester is not public
Yeah not public
Dr Gray, should she have applied to a DO school? just a thought, what do i know.
Yes! She would have def. been accepted. They expect high stat people to get into MD schools, so they accept them and take their tuition deposit with the expectation that they will drop the seat and the school pockets the money. Works 60% of the time, every time.
@@alphaspartan I disagree. No need to have applied DO had she had a better list. She’s very competitive for MD schools and I don’t think it was necessary applying DO the first time around. Now as a reapplicant she should apply top tier DO to not have to have to apply a third time
@@andrescorona7044 actually I think we do agree. I don't think she "needed" to apply DO either if she'd done a better school list the first time, but if she had applied DO the first time without a solid school list, she wouldn't be reapplying now and wasting another year of her life. It sounds like you agree with me by saying she should apply DO for her 2nd cycle as well. 😅
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Probably ORM
Orm?
Statistically she had over a 75 percent change of getting in. Not 100 percent, just unlucky or interview problems.
@@UsRUncharted It stands for "overrepresented minority/majority." Honestly the girl's annunciation sounds like she's White or Asian-American, so I wouldn't entirely doubt if she was ORM
@@daveyjones3016 how do you know she had a 75% chance?
@@theactualparadox I believe someone said above that AAMC does have a guide of who is urm and orm and their avg mcat/gpa
Probably Asian/White. Classic.
I am middle eastern/white, also an over represented minority and got into plenty of schools with similar stats. Her school list wasn’t good that’s pretty much it. She fixes that and she is good to go
@@thesneakygamer4343 You're Middle Eastern? My friend, no, you're not an ORM. You are exactly what medical schools want to make their class more "diverse." I'm sorry bro. I'm sure you did well in school and on exams but you are by no means an ORM.
@@CXY96 Iranian/middle eastern are considered over-represented. Proportionally they are actually more represented in medicine than any other group. I have talked to ad-coms that consider us over-represented. Also in the AMCAS app, middle eastern is white so they can’t distinguish anyway.
Also it sucks to see but I am an MS1 and I have gone through a tone of all reviews and interviewed plenty of applicants. I would consider her application pretty average, she struck me as a standard med school applicant and she didn’t stand out. If she diversified her school list a bit she still would have gotten in somewhere good though.
@@thesneakygamer4343 Oh for sure, I didn't think her application was particularly unique. But it seemed like she had the drive to go into medicine and good enough stats.
Regarding your heritage, although adcoms may consider you to be "over-represented," let me say this. Your name doesn't evoke the same time of aversion compared to a "Chang, Wang, Zhang." Racism against Asians is accepted, especially among higher academia. Racism against Middle Easterns is a no-go, career-ending move for higher education.
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Not a high recommend of this, too risky with many caveats.