I know a 28 year old male who has terrible toxic emeshment problems with his mom. He once said to me " why do I neeed a girlfriend when I got my mom". 😮😮😮 WTF. That is creepy!!!
That's deep conditioning. He is oblivious to what a true relationship is supposed to look like. His mother has conditioned him to think that his relationship with his mother is the norm. He may not even understand the creepiness of that because to him it's "normal". ( He could also be reaching out to you subconsciously, but you have to draw a line when it come to things like that as well ) Thanks for your comment.
💯💔My God … this is real and pretty spot on.. I still prey everyday that the truth will set me free somehow.. my parents still to this day have control over me - The thing is - they will never , not once or ever will admit any wrong doing , or try to see things from my point of view.. yet I always forgive them, love them unconditionally.. I’m always in a secret battle within myself- is it me? Am I bad/ worthless.. etc. I’m scared
@@icmichaela3: why fight someone to grow up? We can do our own maths, and free our mind from conditioning and toxic attachement to live a full life with our own choices. If freeing the mind is difficult in the beginning, one can travel, look for a job abroad! Good go you, hope you will make it 🎉
@@icmichaela3: why fight someone to level up? You have done your own maths, and free your mind from conditioning and toxic attachement. Good go to you, hope you will make it 🎉
Do not call this overprotection. My whole life I was accused of being “overprotectived”. This is about control. Not protection. The mother excuses and justifies their actions by calling it protection. Society and outside observers label it as coddling. I was protected the way a cat protects a mouse and sexually abused while being labeled a momma’s boy. Very invalidating and inaccurate to call it overprotective.
And it is not about not letting the kid grow up. I was asked to operate at an adult level emotionally at an age I was developmentally unable to. Narcissists view/treat children as selfish adults. Victims of this abuse are arrested because they are traumatized and were asked to grow up to fast. They were NEVER allowed to be children. If you were never allowed to be a child you can never become an adult. This is where reparenting oneself is so important.
The mom still wants to play"House" with the adult child
Pretty much. Thanks for your comment!
Parents can be like "I have the right to eat you up because you are my toy" --shameless boundary destruction.
Thank you for this vid 💗
It's very clarifying.
Glad it was helpful! 👍
This was very helpful and insightful! Thank you!
You're so welcome! Glad it was helpful!
Wow, I wasn’t expecting to get hit with this analysis this morning. Will take some time to process it. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you sooo much! Yes, I confirm everything. In fact I was used to tell my mother: look, I'm not your husband! and on top of that, I'm a female.
I know a 28 year old male who has terrible toxic emeshment problems with his mom.
He once said to me " why do I neeed a girlfriend when I got my mom".
😮😮😮 WTF. That is creepy!!!
That's deep conditioning. He is oblivious to what a true relationship is supposed to look like. His mother has conditioned him to think that his relationship with his mother is the norm. He may not even understand the creepiness of that because to him it's "normal". ( He could also be reaching out to you subconsciously, but you have to draw a line when it come to things like that as well ) Thanks for your comment.
Sad part is, he's the younger of his 3 siblings.
For some reasons I feel that his mom sexual abused him.
what is the overlap between enmeshment and Munchausen-by-proxy?
I think MBP( in varying degrees) can exist in some way or another in most CI cases, since it's all about control.
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Hey Ryan, the book is called "Silently Seduced". I just added the link in the description! Thanks for your question!
@@jomymatthews Thank you!
💯💔My God … this is real and pretty spot on.. I still prey everyday that the truth will set me free somehow.. my parents still to this day have control over me -
The thing is - they will never , not once or ever will admit any wrong doing , or try to see things from my point of view..
yet I always forgive them, love them unconditionally.. I’m always in a secret battle within myself- is it me? Am I bad/ worthless.. etc.
I’m scared
@@icmichaela3: why fight someone to grow up?
We can do our own maths, and free our mind from conditioning and toxic attachement to live a full life with our own choices.
If freeing the mind is difficult in the beginning, one can travel, look for a job abroad!
Good go you, hope you will make it 🎉
@@icmichaela3:
why fight someone to level up?
You have done your own maths, and free your mind from conditioning and toxic attachement.
Good go to you, hope you will make it 🎉
Thank you Jomy
You're welcome! I am glad it was helpful
💢Enmeshment sucks‼️
Do not call this overprotection.
My whole life I was accused of being “overprotectived”.
This is about control.
Not protection.
The mother excuses and justifies their actions by calling it protection. Society and outside observers label it as coddling.
I was protected the way a cat protects a mouse and sexually abused while being labeled a momma’s boy.
Very invalidating and inaccurate to call it overprotective.
And it is not about not letting the kid grow up.
I was asked to operate at an adult level emotionally at an age I was developmentally unable to. Narcissists view/treat children as selfish adults.
Victims of this abuse are arrested because they are traumatized and were asked to grow up to fast.
They were NEVER allowed to be children. If you were never allowed to be a child you can never become an adult.
This is where reparenting oneself is so important.