When I want an unbiased once over of something, you're an obvious goto. Thanks for demoing this. I was looking at it and thinking if I should add it to my collection, and a combo Jupiter8 and DS50 sounds like a pretty good combo. I definitely see some Jupiter 8 influence on the controls of the synth. And having a built-in string synth as well. Beautiful. Quite a fan of Cherry Audio's synths. Have a number of them.
I downloaded this and played around with it for about an hour last night. What I discovered is that it can be made to sound 100% better by turning off the reverb.
I already have their Synthex plugin which is excellent and you have to say Cherry really are producing fantastic products at ridiculous prices. A 'DREAMDRUMS' synth would be an absolute winner if done by 🍒 😎
2:49 Sixteen oscillators multiplied by 6 is actually a whopping 96 oscillators! What a beautiful sounding synth! Subbed for the great content. Keep it up!
Nice! I’d say they’ve nailed a winner with this one. I particularly liked the sound of the notch filter… I’ll be picking this up for sure. Cheers man, peace ✌️
Nice one. You're right - it's good that it doesn't pretend to be anything exactly, because as you say this would have blown our minds back then ... the breadth of sounds is quite staggering if not exactly a match for any individual piece of original gear. I'm tempted by this even if, having just bought the GForce OB-E, it doesn't seem to have half the heft of that thing ... but it goes way further. Great review as always ... amazed that you can get your head around all these interfaces so quickly 👍. Superstar review ☺👌
Great video! Love the sound of this. Definitely does the "icy" side of things very well. Nice to hear something that doesn't go all in for the "warm" squishy sound that's everywhere.
First off, it is an awesome sounding synth. Cherry audio makes some incredible plugins for sure. For me personally, I was close to hitting the buy button, but then I started to compare this with my Hydrasynth. Even though they are very much two different synths, the stuff that matters (the sound coming out) is just so similar. I applaud Cherry Audio for making a synth of this caliber and for so cheap, but in the end I had fight the GAS and be happy with what I have in front of me. Awesome video as always!
Oh yes. Same here. I was wondering where the pro 800 went as I’ve been waiting so long. But now the 16!!??? Until a real Dave synth, I’m one excited old man. :))) ffffffuuug yes bro. You and I both. Man what a great offering per Behringer.
I'm not a huge fan of plugins cause I just don't seem to connect with them as well as hardware, but I might have to get this plugin. It sounds absolutely beautiful.
The Cherry Audio softsynths are magical and the eight voice is a dream to play about with (kinda Oberheimish). Truth is there are plenty of really good inexpensive plugin synths out there you do not have to waste your money on those who claim to be market leaders and can cost you a arm and a leg !! Superwave also do some awesome plugins especially if your a Jarre nut and there also super cheap !!
I agree that there are a lot of very nice, inexpensive synths out there (even some free ones are pretty great), but I definitely do not regret dropping a lot more money on great softsynths like Repro, Diva, Bazille, Hive, ACE and Pigments. They're still my go-to synths even though I grab much cheaper things like DCO-106 pretty often too. Still learning Sines, but already liking it quite a bit.
@ghost mall That does sound like a good solution. I don't have a System 8 but might try with one of my other synths, I'm sure all that assigning becomes quite zen once you get going
While this is an original design, it drew inspiration from the early digital synthesizers, specifically the Ensoniq ESQ-1, the Kawai K series and the Sequential Circuits Prophet VS. Definitely not taking anything away from it =]
Makes me feel like I did when I got a D-50 back in the 80's. Lovely. This appears to be totally complete within itself. Where's the output jack? Can this be include in the CA modular system?
I think they could improve a bit by distinguishing the clusters of 'modules' (LFO, OSC, filter) a bit better graphically. Visually it's too overwhelming. Looks more like an airliner cockpit (flight simulator). I'd expect the flight attendant to tap my shoulder and present me a cup of coffee any minute. ;-)
The interface is making me squint. The only thing I don't like about their synths is the bottom end is lacking when the rez is up and the lo pass is down, as you demonstrated in your Mercury 4 vs promars video. Need that sub!
If my memory serves me correctly I remember a pre-VST soft synth that looked just like this DreamSynth from back in the late 90s way before software instruments were actually any good. Its actually bugging me now so I am off to do a little internet detective work and hopefully be back with answers. [EDIT] OK, after a little research I believe it was called "DreamStation" which is a VA DXi synth from around 1998, this is the synth that immediately sprung to my mind upon first seeing this DreamSynth. Is it a coincidence that both of these synths have the word Dream in their names and kinda look alike? Or is there something to it that Cherry Audio seem to have avoided mentioning?
I think I like The fact it’s not based on a hardware design as well. When they copy a hardware panel in software the workflow doesn’t seam to translate. I love the sound of Jupiter but don’t enjoy it’s panel in software format. This feels like they nailed the workflow and the GUI is enjoyable to use!
Great synth.. But I have so many synths that can do all that this vst does, just in a different way, approach etc.. But for £30!🤔 LOL what's another plug in? I do like the pcm/anasynth crossover though.
Where's my 'soundtrack' preset? Honestly, it's pretty impressive and the price is ridiculous! Alternativley, pay Roland a monthly fee to rent an authentic D50 emulation, with all the interface awkwardness? No thanks!
It sounds good no doubt, but I wish there was some type of USB box that could interface with VST plugins, convert the digital signals in real time to analogue including a VCA circuit and then back into your DAW with zero latency. Kind of like a R2R DA/AD with VCA to somehow beef up the sound. I know my explanation is far from perfect, but you know what I mean.
For such a deep synth the layout and the fact every important function is right in front of you makes you fully understand synthesis. Also it encourages you to create your own presets. But i'm a big fan of hardware, nothing beats grabbing knobs,sliders and buttons to interact with a synth. One of the aspects that makes vst's fail for me is when you turn the cutoff and resonance, compared to most hardware there's a sweet spot when the sound produced starts to come alive or do crazy things most software can't replicate it and it happens more on pure analogue synths that don't have digital control or presets. But at the end of the day hundreds of hit records are made on computers using vst's then sent to studio's where they run the whole track or the stems of the track through hardware eq's compressors, transformers and god knows what and by the time it's mastered no one would have a clue or care if vst's were used.
I used to have a Jupiter 8 back in the 80's and I always saw the myriads of knobs, switches and faders as exciting opportunities to disappear down sonic alleyways that could lead anywhere. You can use your brain to play with this synth or alternatively just use your ears and your imagination. Really exciting. 😎
EDIT: I bought this synth last night as it's on sale, and I will eat my words. I really like it, and with its large selection of waves and OSC types, it really gives you a wide sonic pallete. I was wrong. Original comment: I love their stuff, but not a big fan of this. It's way too cramped, and I think they should have way more mod sources, especially calling it a "dream synth". Maybe an MSEG or two? Also, a sequencer would've been nice. Anyway, I'll be passing on this one, but wish them many sales as I dig their business model.
Fully, MSEG's with positive and negative adjustable key-track independent for every of the 6 Oscillators, with loops switchable between the stages. Then it would be a dream machine.
That GUI Design makes my eyes hurt. Who designed this? There is no weight, no priorites, no visual gudiance. It's all just screaming at you. This GUI is the equivalent of a old Modem dail sound
The biggest problem with all VST instruments is that they just have that dreaded "VST" sound, no body or real 3 dimensional presence. Even hardware Virtual Analogue or digital synths sound so much better imo just based on the fact that they have actual voltages and amplifier circuits going to the outputs.
@@newking70 It's not about the difference. It's about the kind of sound you're after, and most soft synths can't match hardware synths in regards to the things mentioned above.
I totally disagree. Soft synths today play like hardware, or even better. What is missing is obviously the real time control of your hands manipulating everywhere. This cannot be simulated, and it is a lot of fun and efficiency if you are into sound design. But if you play live (like myself) sound quality is not an issue. Yes, I own some hardware synth. Yes, I made some comparison
I like the Moog and Arp 2600 for basses, but all of these synths sound very pedestrian and characterless once they get into the mids to highs. I find them really uninspiring in the top end. I don't feel that way about Sylenth however. You're getting what you pay for with these, which is forgettable.
When I want an unbiased once over of something, you're an obvious goto. Thanks for demoing this. I was looking at it and thinking if I should add it to my collection, and a combo Jupiter8 and DS50 sounds like a pretty good combo. I definitely see some Jupiter 8 influence on the controls of the synth. And having a built-in string synth as well. Beautiful. Quite a fan of Cherry Audio's synths. Have a number of them.
I downloaded this and played around with it for about an hour last night. What I discovered is that it can be made to sound 100% better by turning off the reverb.
I dissent, the galactic preset is lush AF. Way more than some reverbs that cost as much as this.
I already have their Synthex plugin which is excellent and you have to say Cherry really are producing fantastic products at ridiculous prices. A 'DREAMDRUMS' synth would be an absolute winner if done by 🍒 😎
Nice idea
Got this in a recent Humble Bundle for only a few quid; it's a really unexpected surprise how versatile and powerful this VST is.
2:49 Sixteen oscillators multiplied by 6 is actually a whopping 96 oscillators! What a beautiful sounding synth! Subbed for the great content. Keep it up!
came here to say this!
Been using the Dreamsynth for a couple of years now. Really nice sounds and easy to use. A great all rounder.
Great vid Starsky as always. I've never bought a synth so quickly!! It sounds and looks great. Looking forward to having a play with this one..
Nice! I’d say they’ve nailed a winner with this one. I particularly liked the sound of the notch filter… I’ll be picking this up for sure. Cheers man, peace ✌️
Wow, incredible sounds, useful for my style, + only $39...thanks for your review!
Nice one. You're right - it's good that it doesn't pretend to be anything exactly, because as you say this would have blown our minds back then ... the breadth of sounds is quite staggering if not exactly a match for any individual piece of original gear. I'm tempted by this even if, having just bought the GForce OB-E, it doesn't seem to have half the heft of that thing ... but it goes way further. Great review as always ... amazed that you can get your head around all these interfaces so quickly 👍. Superstar review ☺👌
Great video! Love the sound of this. Definitely does the "icy" side of things very well. Nice to hear something that doesn't go all in for the "warm" squishy sound that's everywhere.
First off, it is an awesome sounding synth. Cherry audio makes some incredible plugins for sure. For me personally, I was close to hitting the buy button, but then I started to compare this with my Hydrasynth. Even though they are very much two different synths, the stuff that matters (the sound coming out) is just so similar. I applaud Cherry Audio for making a synth of this caliber and for so cheap, but in the end I had fight the GAS and be happy with what I have in front of me. Awesome video as always!
Same here. I redirected the money into the Behringer Pro-16 2024 fund😂
Oh yes. Same here. I was wondering where the pro 800 went as I’ve been waiting so long. But now the 16!!???
Until a real Dave synth, I’m one excited old man. :))) ffffffuuug yes bro. You and I both. Man what a great offering per Behringer.
GAS is real. I wish there was a vaccine!
@@1000sofusernames Damn right it is. 1 instrument is too many, and a thousand are never enough. And you're never satisfied either
Thats nuts. Good breakdown mate. I'll be getting this
Starsky, when you started to play the chord memory chords to 808 State's 'Pacific' my muscle memory was just aching to hear the sax come in! Haha.
wow! finally a plugin with top end sizzle!
Starsky Carr + Cherry Audio is always a good combination.
Looking forward to their killer synthesis drum machine
Oooh that would be nice
It sounds and looks great :) Thanks for the video as always Starsky :)
Thanks for the thanks.
Bonkers, downloading in progress!
Nice synth mate. You almost played Pacific State by 808 state at 14:00 last note was different :)
I'm not a huge fan of plugins cause I just don't seem to connect with them as well as hardware, but I might have to get this plugin. It sounds absolutely beautiful.
Sounds nice but i didn't hear anything that the synths i already have can't do. Saving my money thanks
The Cherry Audio softsynths are magical and the eight voice is a dream to play about with (kinda Oberheimish). Truth is there are plenty of really good inexpensive plugin synths out there you do not have to waste your money on those who claim to be market leaders and can cost you a arm and a leg !! Superwave also do some awesome plugins especially if your a Jarre nut and there also super cheap !!
I agree that there are a lot of very nice, inexpensive synths out there (even some free ones are pretty great), but I definitely do not regret dropping a lot more money on great softsynths like Repro, Diva, Bazille, Hive, ACE and Pigments. They're still my go-to synths even though I grab much cheaper things like DCO-106 pretty often too. Still learning Sines, but already liking it quite a bit.
for the price it is a no brainer. The effects alone are worth the purchase price. Sub.
Sounds really good, enough to make you wish for a hardware interface for it for those of us for whom mouse + synth isn't a nice combo.
All those knobs…. All those brightly lit buttons. Mmmmm
@@StarskyCarr I know, just imagine
@ghost mall That does sound like a good solution. I don't have a System 8 but might try with one of my other synths, I'm sure all that assigning becomes quite zen once you get going
@ghost mall Hmm, shall look into that since I use Reaper also
@@williamtopping Could be a gap in the market there
While this is an original design, it drew inspiration from the early digital synthesizers, specifically the Ensoniq ESQ-1, the Kawai K series and the Sequential Circuits Prophet VS. Definitely not taking anything away from it =]
I think that’s why it was the Dreamsynth… almost like the highlights!
16 x 6 = 96
Makes me feel like I did when I got a D-50 back in the 80's. Lovely. This appears to be totally complete within itself. Where's the output jack? Can this be include in the CA modular system?
Nice & interesting review, thank you!
I like it and will get in next pay check for sure. It has a very familiar look to it, like a Bass Station rack but in poly multi format or something.
sounds really good
Great demo, shades of Octave Plateau. (Except its in tune and a thousand times better).
I think they could improve a bit by distinguishing the clusters of 'modules' (LFO, OSC, filter) a bit better graphically. Visually it's too overwhelming. Looks more like an airliner cockpit (flight simulator). I'd expect the flight attendant to tap my shoulder and present me a cup of coffee any minute. ;-)
It also might help when you could hide the lower FX row with a blind panel, likewise the left column.
Its a beautiful thing
Haha not sure about the looks tbh… but it’s a great interface - easy to use and see exactly what’s going on.
@@StarskyCarr isn't sound 99% of it st the end?
The interface is making me squint. The only thing I don't like about their synths is the bottom end is lacking when the rez is up and the lo pass is down, as you demonstrated in your Mercury 4 vs promars video. Need that sub!
If my memory serves me correctly I remember a pre-VST soft synth that looked just like this DreamSynth from back in the late 90s way before software instruments were actually any good. Its actually bugging me now so I am off to do a little internet detective work and hopefully be back with answers. [EDIT] OK, after a little research I believe it was called "DreamStation" which is a VA DXi synth from around 1998, this is the synth that immediately sprung to my mind upon first seeing this DreamSynth. Is it a coincidence that both of these synths have the word Dream in their names and kinda look alike? Or is there something to it that Cherry Audio seem to have avoided mentioning?
Just a terrific number of options for music and sound design. Thanks for the review.
16x6=96
Haha … yes it does!! That’s what trying to do maths while thinking about the next bit does to your brain 🧠
Is that with sales tax?
I think I like
The fact it’s not based on a hardware design as well. When they copy a hardware panel in software the workflow doesn’t seam to translate. I love the sound of Jupiter but don’t enjoy it’s panel in software format. This feels like they nailed the workflow and the GUI is enjoyable to use!
Cherry audio just keeps coming out with super unique synthesizers
This one was completely out of the blue. An off the wall idea that hangs together really well.
At 2:45 you had my curiosity… at 3:20 you had my money.
haha... sorry about that.
I just found out I wont buy anything from cherry audio just because i have uhe und softube now with this beast I'm in. this is different!
2:52 16 x 6 = 76 oscillators? Not really...
Not you as well… 🤦♂️
@@StarskyCarr Isn't there a calculator between all those knobs?
Great synth.. But I have so many synths that can do all that this vst does, just in a different way, approach etc.. But for £30!🤔 LOL what's another plug in? I do like the pcm/anasynth crossover though.
Where's my 'soundtrack' preset?
Honestly, it's pretty impressive and the price is ridiculous!
Alternativley, pay Roland a monthly fee to rent an authentic D50 emulation, with all the interface awkwardness? No thanks!
16*6= 96! that is a lot.
At least I know people are watching 😂😂
Can't go wrong for 30 quid.
It sounds good no doubt, but I wish there was some type of USB box that could interface with VST plugins, convert the digital signals in real time to analogue including a VCA circuit and then back into your DAW with zero latency. Kind of like a R2R DA/AD with VCA to somehow beef up the sound. I know my explanation is far from perfect, but you know what I mean.
Does it have note Slide like that found on the Roland 303?
I can’t remember off hand… but think so. It’ll be called portamento, ports or glide
I dunno how much it would sound like a 303 (you have more control via midi in your DAW), but it has Glide over on the left of the interface.
For such a deep synth the layout and the fact every important function is right in front of you makes you fully understand synthesis. Also it encourages you to create your own presets. But i'm a big fan of hardware, nothing beats grabbing knobs,sliders and buttons to interact with a synth. One of the aspects that makes vst's fail for me is when you turn the cutoff and resonance, compared to most hardware there's a sweet spot when the sound produced starts to come alive or do crazy things most software can't replicate it and it happens more on pure analogue synths that don't have digital control or presets. But at the end of the day hundreds of hit records are made on computers using vst's then sent to studio's where they run the whole track or the stems of the track through hardware eq's compressors, transformers and god knows what and by the time it's mastered no one would have a clue or care if vst's were used.
The "8 bit violins" are actually 16 bit really, no 8 bit console had that sort of PCM. Just a small annoyance dkfofd
Ensoniq Mirage
@@HustonSingletary i was assuming 8 bit was in reference to video game consoles hm
Is the PCM samples not the same as dwgs waveforms?
DWGS waveforms were single cycle, so static over time, where PCM samples typically change over time.
I used to have a Jupiter 8 back in the 80's and I always saw the myriads of knobs, switches and faders as exciting opportunities to disappear down sonic alleyways that could lead anywhere. You can use your brain to play with this synth or alternatively just use your ears and your imagination. Really exciting. 😎
16 x 6 = 96 not 76 dude.
I know, I know, I know…
EDIT: I bought this synth last night as it's on sale, and I will eat my words. I really like it, and with its large selection of waves and OSC types, it really gives you a wide sonic pallete. I was wrong.
Original comment: I love their stuff, but not a big fan of this. It's way too cramped, and I think they should have way more mod sources, especially calling it a "dream synth". Maybe an MSEG or two? Also, a sequencer would've been nice.
Anyway, I'll be passing on this one, but wish them many sales as I dig their business model.
Fully, MSEG's with positive and negative adjustable key-track independent for every of the 6 Oscillators, with loops switchable between the stages.
Then it would be a dream machine.
Seems ok for pads but awful for simple analogue sounds ( as all the vst)
I'll hate myself for saying this, but what will they think of next?
Auto tune for $40 would go down quite well 😂😂
@@StarskyCarr No! :P
@@CherryAudiovst haha.. that would be some magic trick 🪄
Nice, but waaaay too complicated for me.
Hate to be that guy but 16 x 6 = 96
Don’t worry you’re not alone…. But you are that guy!
You don't really hate it.
@@ricokrs6329 Yeah, you're right. Sure gets lonely at times though 😜
Nothing new to the table here in terms of sound that you can find in other soft synths
such as the korg legacy collection
Maybe but not for this price and in this format. I’ve got the legacy collection btw - very cool.
That GUI Design makes my eyes hurt. Who designed this? There is no weight, no priorites, no visual gudiance. It's all just screaming at you. This GUI is the equivalent of a old Modem dail sound
The biggest problem with all VST instruments is that they just have that dreaded "VST" sound, no body or real 3 dimensional presence. Even hardware Virtual Analogue or digital synths sound so much better imo just based on the fact that they have actual voltages and amplifier circuits going to the outputs.
Have a look at OB-E
How many people can tell the difference?
@@newking70 It's not about the difference. It's about the kind of sound you're after, and most soft synths can't match hardware synths in regards to the things mentioned above.
@@Reactor10k Exactly my point.
I totally disagree. Soft synths today play like hardware, or even better. What is missing is obviously the real time control of your hands manipulating everywhere. This cannot be simulated, and it is a lot of fun and efficiency if you are into sound design. But if you play live (like myself) sound quality is not an issue. Yes, I own some hardware synth. Yes, I made some comparison
I like the Moog and Arp 2600 for basses, but all of these synths sound very pedestrian and characterless once they get into the mids to highs. I find them really uninspiring in the top end. I don't feel that way about Sylenth however. You're getting what you pay for with these, which is forgettable.