This still is a very good video. Even though some specifics are outdated (particular the point about how mobs respond to tank movement, this has changed since) the basic principles are still very valid. I've been main-tanking in several expansions since wrath and I still point people to these videos when they ask how to develop themselves as a tank, beyond just mastering the current iterations of their spec.
I sure do miss Ciderhelm explaining boss fights on Tankspot. Tankspot is supposed to explain fights from tank's perspective, but now it's a joke. They usually have a ret pally or healer explaining the fight. I'm a tank!!! If I go to TankSpot, I want a TANK explain my role! Ciderhelm made it sound like a cake walk.
To all you tanks out there, thank you. I am a healer and a DPSer. I tried tanking and I honestly couldn't stand it. So for all of you who tank, thank you.
This era of tankspot set a precedence for gaming fansites, and is deeply embedded in my most memorable wow experiences. Gaming today... is just not the same, and largely due to the fact that this element is gone.
This video and its counterpart on awareness and camera control taught me tanking back in Wrath. I was just going to post reference it for another new tank asking about movement by backing up vs strafing diagonally backward, but unfortunately it seems to have been corrupted right at that part in the video. @4:49 - @5:38. The audio is there but the video is just a white screen. I wonder if YT has a backup.
@allian59 You never have to use Seal of wisdom in a raid or a dungeon, you just need to use divine plea at the right time, for instance if you pull a large group of mobs you refresh divine plea so it lasts much longer.
His method could have the advantage of a better view of the battle, depending on what part of the fight is more important at the moment. Ideally, you'd be able to do both as warranted by the situation.
@allian59 i find using seal of wisdom in heroics is useful as i lose a substantial amount of mana due to over gearing the instance and not gaining mana through being healed, however in a raid environment this is not necessary as enough healing is coming in so using a seal of corruption/ vengeance is more useful for threat
For the next part(s) could you place a small text or logo on the white while in audio only parts? A simple text like Tankspot Tanking Reference part X or the Tankspot logo. It whould make the presentation look better in my opinion
im sure we've all had situations when backing up where a mob decides to move to a very undesireable position, such as behind you, for example, I have an enemy on me, and am backing him up and he runs through me, to my backside, any suggestions on how to avoid this, or why this might happen?
I didn't knew bosses would move ahead of you, if you get stuck on an object which isn't there for them. Fun to know :-) Also, does anyone know if Sindragosa back's up if you stand close enough to her center? I've tried it once, but didn't seem to succeed.
this is happening when the mob passes you hitbox; overlapping his own with yours may cause wrong calculations by the server, positioning the mobs at the wrong spot (for example behind you) this can be avoided by takeing one more step back when the mob reaches you
thats very nice info on the straifing, fukin hell i thought i knew all there is to tanking, maybe not. Keep the awesome videos coming, perharps something for the DPS in my guild
i like when ppl say palys are faceroll. i am not disagreeing with the fact that they are certainly a simpler class to play, but in most cases there are crtain priorities or abilities that must be used rather than what rawr68 said "Holy - Spam Holy Light., Prot - Make a 2 button 969 Rotation macro, Ret - Hit any button." there are alwys situations where tanks and healers need to be on their toes and ready to use crtain abilities & as a ret paly thre are priorities not jst whtevr comes off cd 1st
instead of the strafe running, i got a Backwards zigzag Jumping method, witch allows me to face the boss while moving backwards in full run speed. Ciderhelmets Straferunning allways looks like hes having the back to the boss :P even tho i know its not the case :)
righteous fury , avenger's shield, consecration, Hammer of Righteous, and seal of wisdom and Judgment of wisdom... Never had any aggro issues with that lol.
Thank you so much for your amazing videos that always can aid the ever needed WoW tank community =), these vids have inspired me to actually give tanking a shot on my death knight :) and also /highfive for also getting an in-game sex change like i did >.>
i enjoyed watching your movie even though i have long given up wow and feel there was nothing to learn from this movie. However i did learn 2 things... the strafing to reset encounters.. and wow still sucks lol
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This was such a good video back in the day. Still love the Song.
This still is a very good video. Even though some specifics are outdated (particular the point about how mobs respond to tank movement, this has changed since) the basic principles are still very valid. I've been main-tanking in several expansions since wrath and I still point people to these videos when they ask how to develop themselves as a tank, beyond just mastering the current iterations of their spec.
its nice to go back and look at some of the basics. Help ya realize some things you may have looked over or forgot about. Very nice and very helpful
I sure do miss Ciderhelm explaining boss fights on Tankspot. Tankspot is supposed to explain fights from tank's perspective, but now it's a joke. They usually have a ret pally or healer explaining the fight. I'm a tank!!! If I go to TankSpot, I want a TANK explain my role! Ciderhelm made it sound like a cake walk.
Taught me so much as a tsnk and raid leader. brilliant.
To all you tanks out there, thank you. I am a healer and a DPSer. I tried tanking and I honestly couldn't stand it.
So for all of you who tank, thank you.
And thank you for keeping me alive lol
This era of tankspot set a precedence for gaming fansites, and is deeply embedded in my most memorable wow experiences. Gaming today... is just not the same, and largely due to the fact that this element is gone.
Awesome video as allways. You are one of the most knowlegable person I've ever met or heard of.
Thanks Ciderhelm! I enjoy all the tips you give and am having fun leveling my prot warrior, you're a big help!
wow man your guides are always great, i had no idea about the responses to strafing vs backing up. much appreciated
These are always very high quality videos and guidesfor instances. Gj Ciderhelm!
Another great vid from Ciderhelm.
This is perfect for anyone new to the tanking class.
This video and its counterpart on awareness and camera control taught me tanking back in Wrath. I was just going to post reference it for another new tank asking about movement by backing up vs strafing diagonally backward, but unfortunately it seems to have been corrupted right at that part in the video. @4:49 - @5:38. The audio is there but the video is just a white screen. I wonder if YT has a backup.
I liked the strafing part a lot, especially with resets!
Very informative video, Cinderhelm. I didn't know about the strafing trick. I'll be sure to use it in my next raids.
wow, the strafing bit was completely new info to me. thank you!
You can do that with SCT or MSBT (Scrolling Combat Text, Miks Scrolling Battle Text) or even with Blizzards build in version for this.
wow, this is a lot of good information. I honestly had no idea about how the server reacts to strafing, hopefull blizz wont "fix" that anytime soon.
@allian59 You never have to use Seal of wisdom in a raid or a dungeon, you just need to use divine plea at the right time, for instance if you pull a large group of mobs you refresh divine plea so it lasts much longer.
Ciderhelm, if you’re still around, do you remember where you got the music for this video? I used to really enjoy the tankspot music.
His method could have the advantage of a better view of the battle, depending on what part of the fight is more important at the moment.
Ideally, you'd be able to do both as warranted by the situation.
@allian59 i find using seal of wisdom in heroics is useful as i lose a substantial amount of mana due to over gearing the instance and not gaining mana through being healed, however in a raid environment this is not necessary as enough healing is coming in so using a seal of corruption/ vengeance is more useful for threat
Thank you, very informative! I would like to see class specific ways to handle diffrent situations with all the diffrent tanking classes.
IVe found these very helpful because i got an alt tank to 80 and i didnt have experience through any other content.
Warriors FTW. Just curious Cider, are you making Fury your second spec once 3.10 comes out?
For the next part(s) could you place a small text or logo on the white while in audio only parts? A simple text like Tankspot Tanking Reference part X or the Tankspot logo. It whould make the presentation look better in my opinion
is it possible to post some classic wow clips you might have?
im sure we've all had situations when backing up where a mob decides to move to a very undesireable position, such as behind you, for example, I have an enemy on me, and am backing him up and he runs through me, to my backside, any suggestions on how to avoid this, or why this might happen?
There's a macro you can use to increase the max camera distance.
Very Awesome Clip Cider
thanks Ciderhelm. tts always a pleasure
thanks for the tip on the reset of 4 horsemen :P never knew that and could have saved us alot of repairs :P
Damn! I never knew about those movements to reset a boss. I feel like trying that my next Naxx run.
I didn't knew bosses would move ahead of you, if you get stuck on an object which isn't there for them. Fun to know :-)
Also, does anyone know if Sindragosa back's up if you stand close enough to her center? I've tried it once, but didn't seem to succeed.
Still a must watch for Tanks imo.
what is the name of your scrolling combat text addon?
I wonder what other bosses can be reset like the 4H?
Anyonen know the background music? if Yes I would love to know
this is happening when the mob passes you hitbox; overlapping his own with yours may cause wrong calculations by the server, positioning the mobs at the wrong spot (for example behind you)
this can be avoided by takeing one more step back when the mob reaches you
@MyBass0wnzu you would fail so hard on tank healing if you spam FoL. HL can be spammed as soon as you get into totc 10 gear(assuming you gem int)
very detailed, good job
thats very nice info on the straifing, fukin hell i thought i knew all there is to tanking, maybe not.
Keep the awesome videos coming, perharps something for the DPS in my guild
Still helpful even today :)
Paladin Holy or Prot Guide Please.
wow never knew how the server reacts 2 strafing, nice dat was really helpful
i like when ppl say palys are faceroll. i am not disagreeing with the fact that they are certainly a simpler class to play, but in most cases there are crtain priorities or abilities that must be used rather than what rawr68 said "Holy - Spam Holy Light., Prot - Make a 2 button 969 Rotation macro, Ret - Hit any button." there are alwys situations where tanks and healers need to be on their toes and ready to use crtain abilities & as a ret paly thre are priorities not jst whtevr comes off cd 1st
Love the video.
pls, names of addons
oh the last tip was nice to know
love the bwl footage
ye i could imagine that, but i dont feel like trying his method, since im so routined at my own method allready. i guess you know that feeling :P
instead of the strafe running, i got a Backwards zigzag Jumping method, witch allows me to face the boss while moving backwards in full run speed.
Ciderhelmets Straferunning allways looks like hes having the back to the boss :P even tho i know its not the case :)
2nd!!!!
Great Strategies!!! i didnt know that
FIRST!!
good movie, keep em coming
righteous fury , avenger's shield, consecration, Hammer of Righteous, and seal of wisdom and Judgment of wisdom... Never had any aggro issues with that lol.
tanking is the best nice video
nice vid :P keep em up
@rawr68 Indeed. Facerolling ftw?
link addons plz
Thank you so much for your amazing videos that always can aid the ever needed WoW tank community =), these vids have inspired me to actually give tanking a shot on my death knight :)
and also /highfive for also getting an in-game sex change like i did >.>
Classic wrath is right around the corner.
i enjoyed watching your movie even though i have long given up wow and feel there was nothing to learn from this movie. However i did learn 2 things... the strafing to reset encounters.. and wow still sucks lol
thanks for the reply :)
Ciderhelm was my favorite
MiksScrollingCombatText
Its awesome, u should get it!
Great vid... Tankspot FTW
Essence of pre bc tankings. :)
This old Mob AI needs to be brought back into #classicwow
atrain was his name on BETA
i need to send this to my tank friend in wrath classic lol
Wtf.. awesome unit frams wich are those :o
While your way works, Strafing is much easier and has the same effect.
Atrain and Ciderspore where his names on Beta
damn u played through classic, BC AND WotLK with the same class.... arent u bored of it
his name does not matter, he is god-like :)
hehe thanks for the last tip :)
make a paladin guiteee
i wonder how many tanks don't know those basic things. maybe the answer lies in the wipes.
@SoniStreet i second that :)
God dammit I wish all your videos were like this instead of playing useless clips from a boss fight to distract me.
I should reset 4H just for fun when I am tanking now that I know I can do this. =D
it's the same!
your welcome :)
prot pallies ftw!
it's himself..
ITs MikScrollingBattleText
/console cameradistancemaxfactor 4
agreed O_o
Ciderhelm can't be improved!
Or has had to change names. And he has changed genders as well
9th yaaaaa
Icecrown.
nar, Parrot
HACKS
/console cameradistancemaxfactor 4