@@robertolopez4081 I like Trent but I agree with you. When he spoke to Allie in the "Praying to Mary" debate he was way too polite. Every point she tried to make I've seen him demolish when he was talking to other protestant apologists. Trouble is, she interrupts and chatters over people so Trent should have just kept talking.
Allie quotes James 2 and says “that does not mean we are justified by our works”. James 2:24 “You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.” Protestants can explain away their interpretations all they want, but when they take James 2:24 and try saying it doesn’t mean what it says, that’s what got me. I did not want to be Catholic, but the truth became so obvious over time and the flaws of Protestantism were piling and piling. Lots of love, Allie! I hope you find your way back home one day, but glad to still call you a separated sister ❤
@@Justas399 Your illogic is astounding. The NT teaches over and over again that one must do good and reject evil. That is totally contrary to the position of Luther.
As a former protestant, now Catholic convert it's frustrating how much the Church and it's teachings are misunderstood. And I used to have some of these misunderstandings I'm sure. First of all, purgatory is not between Heaven and hell. That seems to imply that someone in purgatory can go to hell which is not the case, everyone in purgatory will go to Heaven.
@@rushthezeppelin That is true charity. Failing to properly research and understand these issues before acting as a teacher of others is inexcusable. It is just as dangerous to souls as intentionally misleading people. Failing to learn what the Church actually teaches before "instructing" others is lying by omission.
@Jill Domschot No. When you presume to teach on important matters of faith or morals, and you intentionally blind yourself to readily avaliable facts, that is lying. It would have taken her two minutes to find the official doctrine, but she made the free choice to speak without doing that. Her goal is not the truth, it's to push anti-Catholic nonsense.
Which of the Two Baptisms is required for salvation? Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, and wore certain clothes, as prescribed by the 613 Old Covenant laws. Christ was water baptized by John and then received the Holy Spirit from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a New Covenant water baptism ceremony. The conversion process is described below. Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, (A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.) Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (See Jer. 31:34 for the New Covenant promise, and 1 John 2:27 for the fulfillment) ============ Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says? What did Peter say below? Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage? Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13) “baptize” KJV Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.) Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5) Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant ----> New Covenant) How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist? Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ? New Covenant water baptism is a beautiful ceremony which allows new believers to declare their conversion to the whole world.
Settling a dispute is not the same thing as reaching the correct scriptural teaching. Peace is dear, but truth is dearer. We must have truth before peace.
@@markwilkie7633 Exactly - God's authority. You don't solve the problem of interpreting scripture by adding the authority of the pope, because then you need someone to interpret the pope, then someone to interpret the pope's interpreters. You're right back where you started from. God gave you a brain - use it. God has revealed himself directly to all men so that they are without excuse: In nature, in the prophets, and ultimately in his only Son. You don't need an authority.
@@markwilkie7633 2Timothy 3:16,17 tells us “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” It’s pretty self explanatory and anyone can figure out the way to salvation just by reading it. As a born-again believer, I experience forgiveness, the joy and the peace and the order in my life that only the Lord Jesus Christ brings. The Bible is so simple a child can read the salvation message, John 3:16,17 comes to mind, yet so profound that we spend our whole lives studying it and still learning. It’s a miraculous book.
Catholicism is the fullness of truth on earth. Its men are flawed but its teachings are not. I was once anti-catholic. But then I reread the Gospel of John and found it hard to deny the Eucharist. I also learned about Marian apparitions. I challenge anyone to debunk Our Lady of Fatima. No approved apparition has ever preached a different gospel.
Blessed be Mary, full of grace. But she didn't die for my sins. Our Lord Jesus did. He taught us the Pater Noster. We can pray to the Father directly. God bless 🙏🏻
The devil can masquarade himself as an Angel of light. So Marian apparitions mean nothing. Is there anyway to justify all the atrocities commited by the catholic church in medieval times?
And I pray for all Eastern Orthodox that they will reconcile with the Catholic Church, the one and only Church established and maintained by Jesus Christ. Come home.
@@docverit2668May god bless you and thank you for being part of our beautiful Catholic Church. 2000 yrs our father Jesus Christ established the one and only church.
@@rosea2350 we love Jesus Christ and Mother Mary just like we love our own mothers. Even the founder of Martin Luther enjoyed talking with Beautiful Mother Mary but Catholics also believe that there is Only one God above everything.
In all fairness and to get what Catholics believe, you should have Jimmy Akin, Trent Horn or Tim Staples come on your show and answer your concerns about the Catholic Faith. They can speak to the teaching of the Catholic Church vs getting what you think you know the Catholic Church. We are all sinners and should respect and unite in Christ, not divide. That is Satan rejoicing when that happens.
Light and dark can not have fellowship. We do not preach the same gospel. Reformed Christians preach a gospel that saves, and proclaim the apostolic command to REPENT AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL. Catholics preach and teach a endless treadmill of hopelessness. Satan has used Roman Catholicism to reek havoc on Christians.
Very true ..and I don't think she would bring them on to the show.. because she is so stubborn about her Protestant beliefs and won't have an open mind
Absolutely.....get Trent Horn on the show. I like Allie Beth but I'm a bit confused. The reformation as I know, in UK, is connected to Henry 8th and his opposition to the Pope and the Catholic church for not allowing him to divorce and marry Anne Boleyn and look at the life he led after defying the Pope. Most Catholic Churches in the country were destroyed.
It's a false teacher thing...... "However, Mary must not be disregarded, as she offers many graces, and mercy to all who call upon her intercession." This Catholic teaching is heresy. Mary was human not able to be called upon.
You don’t reform something by abandoning it. When you leave a marriage and start a new one, you are not reforming the original marriage. Revolution Day is a more accurate title of this day. There is so much to address, but I’ll address one comment: Allie used the mantra of Protestants. That verse about faith and works doesn’t mean what it plainly says. Is that because it doesn’t fit her Calvinist theology? Happy Divorce/Revolution Day Allie!
The only deplorable aspect of the Reformation was that the separation was not complete. The Protestant churches to a lesser or greater degree retained some of the toxic elements of Catholicism. With regard to Catholicism, it is said: "‘Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues; for her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes." (Rev. 18:4-5)
When we understand our total depravity and God’s holiness, his merciful nature, and complete authority, we can be filled with hope in Christ and in him alone. Any other understanding leads to dependence on ourselves and our circumstances. Praise the Lord for the reformers!
@@kzbaby2002 and they didn't exactly have a different choice at the time! i'm thankful i am fully assured of salvation through grace alone, and have a direct line of communication with our Lord without the need of confession to a human being.
Hi Allie, Watching your video today which you made about a year ago. I accept the doctrines of the Council of Trent (as well as all other the doctrines of the Holy Catholic Church) as I am a practicing Catholic, but I still enjoy listening to your witness as a believing Christian! Thanks for this episode of Relatable!
Hi Allie In Romans, Galations and Ephesians, Paul is speaking of works as works of the law... circumcision, adhering to the 600+ levitical laws, etc. And it was Luther in his September Bible where he inserted "alone" in Romans 3:28 so it read "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith alone and not by works." "Alone" is not in the original Greek. James on the other hand, is speaking about works of love, and here is the only time it says "faith alone" in 2:24 "See how man is justified by works and not by faith alone." Also you mentioned the Catholic Church doesn't believe in the Bible as the foundation of the Church but Protestants do. That is contrary to what the Bible says in 1Tim 3:15 "... church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth." At the time of Paul's writings (and the other epistles), the Bible was the OT, so leaning on 2Tim 3:15-17 for sola scriptura is stretching it a bit as you would have to conclude only the OT is necessary, because that is what Paul was referring to there. After the Bible was canonized (by the Holy Spirit through the Catholic Church), then we could safely apply those NT writings as scripture... (although many Christians already felt in their heart many were scripture by the end of the 1st century. Allie, please take a chance and bring a real Catholic apologist to give the Catholic perspective on one topic of theological disagreement between Catholics and Protestants. Maybe... Jimmy Akin Tim Staples Scott Hahn Peter Kreeft I think you and your viewers would enjoy it and be able to clear up some possible misconceptions. God bless you, your family and your work!
Here, in Romans 3[:28], I knew very well that the word solum is not in the Greek or Latin text; the papists did not have to teach me that. It is a fact that these four letters s o l a are not there. And these blockheads stare at them like cows at a new gate. At the same time they do not see that it conveys the sense of the text; it belongs there if the translation is to be clear and vigorous. I wanted to speak German, not Latin or Greek, since it was German I had undertaken to speak in the translation. But it is the nature of our German language that in speaking of two things, one of which is affirmed and the other denied, we use the word solum (allein) along with the word nicht [not] or kein [no]. For example, we say, “The farmer brings allein grain and kein money”; “No, really I have now nicht money, but allein grain”; “I have allein eaten and nicht yet drunk”; “Did you allein write it, and nicht read it over?” There are innumerable cases of this kind in daily use. - Martin Luther
this is a well articulated and researched answer, but as a bystander I have heard the same argument from Orthodox Christians too, that Luther inserted the word “Sola” in sola scriptura which was not in the original Greek, and that same error still causes so many people to fall into erroneous beliefs even nowadays.
@@MFaith777 NOT justified by faith ALONE. Luther inserted “Alone” or “sola” there and is repeated and quoted ad nauseum in the protestant world. Pretty fishy changing scripture to then be justified “solely by scripture “.
Sorry to rehash the issue but I’m still confused as to how the conclusion of the Halloween episode is that it has Christian origins and not pagan. The argument was so shallow and vague. I appreciate your biblical and unapologetical stance on so many issues that It’s just so weird to hear you slap a Christian viniere on the issue and call it acceptable to participate in that without a biblical foundation.
@@HLysimon I am convicted on the issue. Just the fact Oct. 31 is the holiest day for Satanist is a clear indication that I want nothing to do with this celebration. Thanks for the suggestion I will check it out.
I have heard the argument from Orthodox Christians (and I’m sure some Catholics too), that Luther inserted the word “Sola” in sola scriptura which was not in the original Greek, and that same error still causes so many people to fall into erroneous beliefs even nowadays.
@@MFaith777 Thank you for that. As we can see it doesn’t change or disprove my (actually others’ smarter than me) claim that Luther INSERTED the world “Sola” in sola scriptura. Salvation comes NOT by “faith alone”
Yep, and what about this one? Rom 4:5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness 😂
Calling God's Church a tyrannical organization is scary grounds, he did in fact say that the Gates of Hell would not overcome his church and so to say that the Church guided through the Holy spirit is tyrannical is to call God a tyrant. I think both you and I understand why that's not a good thing to do. It's important to recognize ourselves as One body under Christ and although protestants aren't in full communion with the Church, we still need to care for one another and lead by example. The Catholic Church desires unity through the good and the bad, but protestantism is a product of rebellion and pride, it bleeds the self into what should be the collective. I pray for you and everyone that they might open their hearts to the Catholic Church much in the same way as myself, we all need the Church, no one more than the other.
As a lifelong Protestant turned Catholic at age 28, I can say without a doubt that the Catholic Church is the fullness of life in Christ. Truly, you just don’t understand what you’re missing. 💔
After reading the Scriptures various times I am certain that the fullness of life is Christ Himself. John 1, 6, 14, 2 Corinthians 5, Romans 8, 1John 5, Philippians 1, Ephesians 1 and 2 ...just to mentions a few chapters where to corroborate It is not an opinion.
@@Caesarsalad123 Interesting how every Protestant interprets the Bible differently. Hence you have over 33,000 different denominations. They all disagree with each other on basic issues that are very important. It's crazy! The very first Christian's believe what Catholics believe. Read the Church Fathers :')
@@MsLaurieperez what major issues exactly?? All Christians have disagreement, especially when we trust in man instead of the Word of God and the Holy Spirit. The Catholic Church today is not what the first Christians believe. Not at all. The example to follow is in the Bible, and the Catholic Church does not follow the example laid in the Bible. So you agree with all of the tenants of Catholicism then??
This is my Father’s world! We need to take back the rainbow as well. As a former Catholic, I was raised learning about the Saints or those who went before us and it is a shame we don’t teach our history and those that God used for His glory! Just study St Patrick-amazing story! We need to quit allowing the world to take and tarnish His good work. How many times does God tell us to “remember “. Great show!
I just ordered a shirt from SDG Clothing that has a rainbow on it and underneath in large font: Noahic Covenant, ha! Can't wait to wear it and represent the truth. 🌈
Martin Luther himself believed in Purgatory, as Holy Scripture teaches we must all strive for that holiness without which no one shall see the Lord, as we shall each be judged as we have judged others and we shall each be held accountable for every careless word we have uttered and shall each be liable to judgment if angry with others! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
I’m Catholic so no surprises that I would have an issue with lots on offer here. HOWEVER I also think it was vital that the Catholic Church needed to be reformed (which it was via the Council of Trent). So much would of gone unchanged if ML hadn’t raised some of the concerns he did. That said, I pray for a closer unity for all Christians from all traditions not just Protestants or Catholics.
Irenaeus on the Eucharist- “He took from among creation that which is bread, and gave thanks, saying, ‘This is my body.’ The cup likewise, which is from among the creation to which we belong, he confessed to be his blood. He taught the new sacrifice of the new covenant, of which Malachi, one of the twelve [minor] prophets, had signified beforehand: ‘You do not do my will, says the Lord Almighty, and I will not accept a sacrifice at your hands. For from the rising of the sun to its setting my name is glorified among the Gentiles, and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a pure sacrifice; for great is my name among the Gentiles, says the Lord Almighty’ [Mal. 1:10-11]. By these words he makes it plain that the former people will cease to make offerings to God; but that in every place sacrifice will be offered to him, and indeed, a pure one, for his name is glorified among the Gentiles” (Against Heresies 4:17:5 [A.D. 189]). “If the Lord were from other than the Father, how could he rightly take bread, which is of the same creation as our own, and confess it to be his body and affirm that the mixture in the cup is his blood?” (Against Heresies 4:33-32 [A.D. 189]). “He has declared the cup, a part of creation, to be his own blood, from which he causes our blood to flow; and the bread, a part of creation, he has established as his own body, from which he gives increase unto our bodies. When, therefore, the mixed cup [wine and water] and the baked bread receives the Word of God and becomes the Eucharist, the body of Christ, and from these the substance of our flesh is increased and supported, how can they say that the flesh is not capable of receiving the gift of God, which is eternal life-flesh which is nourished by the body and blood of the Lord, and is in fact a member of him?” (ibid., 5:2).
Luther opposed those who believed the bread and wine of the Lord's Supper were nothing more than a symbol. Lutherans to this day hold to his literal interpretation of Luke 22 19 "This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me."
At the time Jesus spoke those words, he literally was still living/breathing in the flesh and hadn’t poured out his blood yet or body yet. It makes no sense to interpret that as his actual blood and body when in that moment that isn’t how He was interpreting it. It had a spiritual meaning- He was about to give His body and spill His blood for us. He was trying to help them see what He was about to do as the final lamb. That night they drank wine and bread. Jesus hadn’t yet been crucified. He was trying to help them understand what was coming.
@@duckymomorocks Jesus is the way, the truth, the life, the living water, the bread, the rock, the cornerstone... what is spirit is spirit and what is flesh is flesh. I think He was saying we need God in us for eternal life. Holy Spirit indwells a born again believer. And that He was about to spill His blood and give His body as a sacrifice for all as the final lamb. He died on the cross for all sin, and rose again, it is finished. He doesn’t need to be re-sacrificed every Sunday at communion.
@@duckymomorocks the offering doesn’t keep going and going. It was once and for all for all sin. The Father already accepted the offering. Jesus already said it is finished. Sin is done and paid for.
I still think that Catholic teaching is more true than Protestantism. Just by looking at historical arguments, catholicism makes more sense. However, I still like your podcast and I still think you are a person who is really close to God.
Brothers and sisters, we are all sinners in deep need of Christ, let’s unite against our real enemies out there. Keep your eyes on our Savior. Love God and love your neighbors.
I'm a Catholic and there are many Evangelicals converting to my church. Whilst I welcome them and am glad they are converting, I am saddened by the reason, which is the troubles within Evangelicalism and the loss of faith in the "mere Christianity" fundamentals which we all agree[d?] on. I do not rejoice in the implosion of Evangelicalism anymore than in the implosion of the Mainliners before them. (Evangelicalism has been asking in 1000 different ways essentially "what is the _least_ I have to do tonhe a Christian". The fruits of this are the Deconstruction movement we now see ravaging the faith of so many). America, and indeed the entire West, needs a robust Protestantism to fight side by side against the forces of evil and degeneracy (its latest iteration being Wokism). And so I, along with Rod Dreher, exhort Protestants to draw on the sources of their own traditions and go deeper into them. Part of this is to learn the stories of Luther and Calvin. Are you a Baptist? Get a copy of the writings of John Smyth, Thomas Helwys and other founding Baptist ministers and read them. Are you a non-demoninational? Accept that you are broadly Protestant (yes, you are, and stop denying it) and get that book by Calvin that Allie recommend, or the Sermons of Martin Luther, a Book of Common Prayer from the Anglicans (there are conservative Anglicans now, the ACNA). Get into your Tradition and read something over 100 years old--preferably 200. Youll find that skinny jeans are no where to be found. You'll find a deeper, richer, Christianity and ecclesiology.
Ignatius of Antioch on the structure of the Church- “Now, therefore, it has been my privilege to see you in the person of your God-inspired bishop, Damas; and in the persons of your worthy presbyters, Bassus and Apollonius; and my fellow-servant, the deacon, Zotion. What a delight is his company! For he is subject to the bishop as to the grace of God, and to the presbytery as to the law of Jesus Christ” (Letter to the Magnesians 2 [A.D. 110]). “Take care to do all things in harmony with God, with the bishop presiding in the place of God, and with the presbyters in the place of the council of the apostles, and with the deacons, who are most dear to me, entrusted with the business of Jesus Christ, who was with the Father from the beginning and is at last made manifest” (ibid., 6:1). “Take care, therefore, to be confirmed in the decrees of the Lord and of the apostles, in order that in everything you do, you may prosper in body and in soul, in faith and in love, in Son and in Father and in Spirit, in beginning and in end, together with your most reverend bishop; and with that fittingly woven spiritual crown, the presbytery; and with the deacons, men of God. Be subject to the bishop and to one another as Jesus Christ was subject to the Father, and the apostles were subject to Christ and to the Father; so that there may be unity in both body and spirit” (ibid., 13:1-2). “Indeed, when you submit to the bishop as you would to Jesus Christ, it is clear to me that you are living not in the manner of men but as Jesus Christ, who died for us, that through faith in his death you might escape dying. It is necessary, therefore-and such is your practice that you do nothing without the bishop, and that you be subject also to the presbytery, as to the apostles of Jesus Christ our hope, in whom we shall be found, if we live in him. It is necessary also that the deacons, the dispensers of the mysteries [sacraments] of Jesus Christ, be in every way pleasing to all men. For they are not the deacons of food and drink, but servants of the Church of God. They must therefore guard against blame as against fire” (Letter to the Trallians 2:1-3 [A.D. 110]). “In like manner let everyone respect the deacons as they would respect Jesus Christ, and just as they respect the bishop as a type of the Father, and the presbyters as the council of God and college of the apostles. Without these, it cannot be called a church. I am confident that you accept this, for I have received the exemplar of your love and have it with me in the person of your bishop. His very demeanor is a great lesson and his meekness is his strength. I believe that even the godless do respect him” (ibid., 3:1-2). “He that is within the sanctuary is pure; but he that is outside the sanctuary is not pure. In other words, anyone who acts without the bishop and the presbytery and the deacons does not have a clear conscience” (ibid., 7:2). “I cried out while I was in your midst, I spoke with a loud voice, the voice of God: ‘Give heed to the bishop and the presbytery and the deacons.’ Some suspect me of saying this because I had previous knowledge of the division certain persons had caused; but he for whom I am in chains is my witness that I had no knowledge of this from any man. It was the Spirit who kept preaching these words, ‘Do nothing without the bishop, keep your body as the temple of God, love unity, flee from divisions, be imitators of Jesus Christ, as he was imitator of the Father’” (Letter to the Philadelphians 7:1-2 [A.D. 110]).
Clement- “Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its sacrifices. Blessed are those presbyters who have already finished their course, and who have obtained a fruitful and perfect release” (Letter to the Corinthians 44:4-5 [A.D. 80]).
Thank you, Allie! Like you, I didn’t learn about Reformation Day when I was growing up (even though I have a wonderful Christmas mom and went to a Christian high school). I’m so thankful for the Reformation, though! And I’m thankful for YOU! Thank you for regularly bringing us back to the Word and encouraging us to place our hope in the Lord, no matter the circumstances around us.
“Christ committed adultery first of all with the women at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: ‘Whatever has He been doing with her?’ Secondly, with Mary Magdalen, and thirdly with the women taken in adultery whom He dismissed so lightly. Thus even, Christ who was so righteous must have been guilty of fornication before He died.” ~Martin Luther
The reformation was a bunch or virtue signaling hacks just making stuff up. If you're going to interpret the Bible, you need an interpretive tradition. But who is to say that interpretive tradition is correct? Btw, what modern low church protestants ignore is that the earliest protestants justified their position based on an authority and tradition of the Church where their views supposedly went back in a continuous line to the early Church. Now, there was never any evidence of this, they were gross liars, but they at least understood that would be necessary. They pushed the idea of accretionism anr successionism that have now been thoroughly debunked. You follow in their tradition, yet you don't believe many of the things they did and probably don't at all believe in their justifications for authority, so reconsider your position.
I recently found out that in the 1100’s Henry ll had let the pope or bishop to license and regulate a brothel. The prostitutes were called the Winchester Geese. 😬😬 Soooo I’m not surprised Luther saw issues 😂
Cyprian of Carthage- "If Christ Jesus, our Lord and God, is himself the high priest of God the Father; and if he offered himself as a sacrifice to the Father; and if he commanded that this be done in commemoration of himself, then certainly the priest, who imitates that which Christ did, truly functions in place of Christ” (Letters 63:14 [A.D. 253]).
Amen Allie!! So thankful for the church reformation. Hopefully you can check out dr. Gavin ortuland. One of the best protestant apologist. He defends our faith beautifully. God bless!!😊❤
if you truly study the early Church Fathers, you won’t find the origin of Protestantism. There is also a Protestant selective historical narrative shared here that is lacking in depth of historical accuracy. As Cardinal Neumann said “to study history is to become Catholic”. This from someone who bounced around various Evangelical churches for almost 50 years. Luther and Calvin believed in Purgatory by the way… one of many misleading statements in this celebration of the tearing apart of the church
the church is non denominational and wide spread. it is those who follow and believe in Christ Jesus for their salvation which is by grace alone not by works lest any man should boast. it is by Christ we are saved. not mary or saints or Joseph Smith
30AD according to most solid bible teachers…. ML did not form the church in 1517 but Reformed it cause it was Deformed by greed, pride, politics, power, and non Greek manuscripts. Note: ML did not set to reform but by God‘s providence it happened due to the Invention of printing press at the right time. Jesus saves not a bunch of men or a pope. Unfortunately during Luthers time and even some time before it the church controlled salvation from the womb to the tomb.🙁 Blessings❤️2 Tim 2:15.
Cyprian of Carthage- “The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ he says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church.’ . . . On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was [i.e., apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. So too, all [the apostles] are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?” (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]).
Cyril of Jerusalem- “Then, having sanctified ourselves by these spiritual hymns, we beseech the merciful God to send forth his Holy Spirit upon the gifts lying before him, that he may make the bread the Body of Christ and the wine the Blood of Christ, for whatsoever the Holy Spirit has touched is surely sanctified and changed. Then, upon the completion of the spiritual sacrifice, the bloodless worship, over that propitiatory victim we call upon God for the common peace of the churches, for the welfare of the world, for kings, for soldiers and allies, for the sick, for the afflicted; and in summary, we all pray and offer this sacrifice for all who are in need” (Catechetical Lectures 23:7-8 [A.D. 350])
Thanks for making this episode! I have been listening to a lot of Catholic youtubers recently. Very talented conservative commentators. It was very helpful to be reminded of why the reformation was so necessary and still relevant today.
As a Catholic I really find Allies post informative and interesting. I always wondered why protestants just left to start their own churches , called it reformation, not rebellion While others St. Catherine of Genoa St. Thomas More St. Ignatius of Loyola St. Francis Xavier St. Philip Neri St. Charles Borromeo St. Pius V St. Teresa of Avila St. John of the Cross St. Francis de Sales St. Catherine of Genoa St. Thomas More St. Ignatius of Loyola St. Francis Xavier St. Philip Neri St. Charles Borromeo St. Pius V St. Teresa of Avila St. John of the Cross St. Francis de Sales Actually stayed and worked at reforming The Church
@@jublli2690 it's because we believe that that the church is accountable to God and the Bible, not to Rome. The point was not to reform Roman Catholicism per se but to reform Christianity. Obviously in that process, not all Christians are going to want to reform.
“Christ committed adultery first of all with the women at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: ‘Whatever has He been doing with her?’ Secondly, with Mary Magdalen, and thirdly with the women taken in adultery whom He dismissed so lightly. Thus even, Christ who was so righteous must have been guilty of fornication before He died.” ~Martin Luther
As someone who is trying very hard to reconciliate the catholic faith that was handed to me by both of my brave grandfathers and my grandmothers. Thank you for reminding me of the deep boundless love and honor i have for my protestant friends and mentors who were no fear, all courage type of people and my new eastern orthodox friends and all of there endless and bold wisdom. We will be one church again. Elahi the holy of all holy's, i will not lose faith.
I was not when I became a Catholic taught that Luther was a wicked heretic. I was taught that he most probably would not have been admitted to the Monastery, or to the priesthood today, not because of the doctrines he later developed and changed over time contradicting himself as time went on, but because he entered seeking both a refuge from the world and out of fear making a promise to enter religion if he survived a thunder storm. Add to that the issues he had with not being assured of Christ's promise that if he confessed his sinfulness, and was given absolution that Christ had forgiven him. This came not from the Catholic Church, or any priest, but from a review of Erik Erikson a Protestant Psychologist who did a study on Luther's young life. Luther had wild mood swings both before and after he broke with the Church. He was at the debates with Cardinal Eck unable to explain either from Scripture or any other source where his new doctrines came from, so rather than using the Scripture to explain himself, he made the now famous and mis quoted, "Here I stand, I can do no more." With Indulgences and their sale. Johann Tetzel the Dominican friar who invented the saying, When the coin in the coffer rings, a soul from Purgatory springs." Tetzel was tried by a Court of the Church and condemned for promising the sale of Indulgences was a guarantee of salvation, and his license to preach and provide the sacraments to the faithful for his heretical teaching. The truth is that Indulgences are not a pardon from sin, one had to already be sorry for one's sins, and be contrite for having sinned, making a firm amendment to strive to overcome a sinful life. Indulgences, per Catholic teaching both today and when Luther protested Tetzel's non-Catholic teachings never held that Indulgences (which are still used today) are a forgiveness for sins. One of my favorite Indulgences is granted to Catholics who read at least 15 minutes of the Sacred Scriptures each day. Not a penny need be paid for that and thousands of other indulgences granted for spiritual acts and acts of charity if done in union with and for the glory of Christ. As to the misinformation on the Scriptures and Latin. I have a couple of pages from Bibles printed in and before the 1500s. Yup a couple are hand illuminated in Latin, but one is in German, and was printed when Luther was 4 years old in Low German, it was one of almost 40 German translations of the OT and NT approved by the Catholic Church. I also have French and Spanish translations from before Luther, approved for the Catholic reader. What we forget though is many people were either illiterate, or because before Guttenberg invented movable type, books had to be either hand copied, or the entire page had to be cut into wood, backward by the printer, a mistake meant that the entire page had to be recut again from the beginning. The cost and literacy were the main reason for the limited circulation of books, including the Bible. But don't give up hope. Catholic Churches and Cathedrals at the time of Luther and prior were not the large stone buildings we see today. They were the same buildings, but they were painted inside and out with pictures of Bible scenes, called the Pauper's Bible, this was a way that the illiterate and those who could not afford books could read the stories of the Bible. When travelling in Europe and visiting with people who have never been in these magnificent buildings I have them get up close to the walls, sometimes with a magnifying glass, where they can see some of the remaining pigment from these pictures. So to say that the Church kept the Bible in Latin and did not want the people to read or know the Bible is a fable and an assault on the Commandment that we do not bear false witness. There were also Paupers Bibles that were printed (again with whole pages cut into wood press plates) showing pictures of the Bible. Luther was sadly an angry and possibly mentally ill man, but was I do not think evil, given his issues. One last thought on him. He and other Protestants were granted safe conduct to and from the Council of Trent to explain their new doctrines, (after the Diet of Worms and other debates in Germany, which even many objective Protestant scholars say he lost because he blew up and ended up using the most base and crass language, condemning those who disagreed with him in all their daily activities, and in the most base terms.) He later did the same against his Protestant fellows who did not agree with him, and regretted saying we should all be able to interpret the Bible ourselves, if it disagreed with him. At first he translated the Bible into German (again not the first effort, and there were both Protestant and approved Catholic editions for over 200 years before his.) Then he removed Seven books from the OT and seven more from the NT. His fellow protestants told him he could not remove the seven NT books which he replaced, they were split on the OT books. He was also told by his fellow Protestant scholars that his addition to We are saved by Faith ALONE, had to have the addition of ALONE removed. He removed it from his mis-translation but incorporated it into his new doctrines. He was also a master of the Latin Language, but not a good Greek Scholar. So in translating the Greek OT and NT he mistranslated many passages, when he did not know the Greek word, he guessed what it may be if it sounded vaguely like a German word. So in Luther's Bible rabbits (a non-kosher animal) become Kosher.
Clement on Apostolic succession- “Through countryside and city [the apostles] preached, and they appointed their earliest converts, testing them by the Spirit, to be the bishops and deacons of future believers. Nor was this a novelty, for bishops and deacons had been written about a long time earlier. . . . Our apostles knew through our Lord Jesus Christ that there would be strife for the office of bishop. For this reason, therefore, having received perfect foreknowledge, they appointed those who have already been mentioned and afterwards added the further provision that, if they should die, other approved men should succeed to their ministry” (Letter to the Corinthians 42:4-5, 44:1-3 [A.D. 80]).
Katharina von Bora’s and Martin Luther’s marriage was considered spiritually incestuous. The consummation of Katharina’s marriage to Martin, witnessed by at least one observer, was a flagrant defiance of incest. After all, the couple originally took irreversible holy vows and followed holy orders. That made them brother and sister in Christ. Additionally, by marrying and consummating the marriage, Katharina and Martin committed heresy with their bodies. They were also considered adulturers for abandoning Christ, to whom they were both spiritually betrothed.
As Saint Francis de Sales said before he converted 72k Calvinists back to Catholicism that your pastors do not even have the necessary conditions to preach the Gospel. What are those conditions? Immediate mission or Mediate mission. Immediate Mission is authority from Christ to the Apostles. Mediate mission is authority from the Apostles through the laying on of hands to the succeeding Bishops (Timothy, Titus, etc). Not even the Apostles themselves assumed authority nor did their successors. It wasn't assumed by claiming, "the Holy Spirit called me" while that same Holy Spirit in Protestantism is contradicting himself on numerous issues like: Sacraments (how many there are or if there are Sacraments), Baptism (if it saves or not), disagreeing on whether or not you can lose your salvation, Trinitarian theology vs oneness theology (or what it should be called that ancient heresy modalism) Divorce and remarriage (if its permitted or not), End times views, old earth vs new earth, Election, Mary, Covenant theology, worship, what faith alone actually means, numerous issues that have massive implications while claiming unity in the Gospel and at the same time disagreeing on what that actually means (except for Jesus dying for your sin) and how to be saved. That doesn't sound like the same Holy Spirit to me, nor does it sound like the God who isn't the author of confusion because indeed that is rather confusing.
@@mj6493 which Hebrew scriptures? There are lots and some Hebrews accepted some while other groups rejected others. So who has the authority to compile the modern day Bible and who did it?
@@paernoser871 Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you-that everything written about me in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the psalms must be fulfilled.” Luke 24:44 See, not everything is about Roman authority.
Ignatius of Antioch- “Make certain, therefore, that you all observe one common Eucharist; for there is but one Body of our Lord Jesus Christ, and but one cup of union with his Blood, and one single altar of sacrifice-even as there is also but one bishop, with his clergy and my own fellow servitors, the deacons. This will ensure that all your doings are in full accord with the will of God” (Letter to the Philadelphians 4 [A.D. 110]).
Pope Damasus- “Likewise it is decreed . . . that it ought to be announced that . . . the holy Roman Church has been placed at the forefront not by the conciliar decisions of other churches, but has received the primacy by the evangelic voice of our Lord and Savior, who says: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it; and I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven . . . ’ [Matt. 16:18-19]. The first see, therefore, is that of Peter the apostle, that of the Roman Church, which has neither stain nor blemish nor anything like it” (Decree of Damasus 3 [A.D. 382]).
Ambrose- “[Christ] made answer: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock will I build my Church. . . .’ Could he not, then, strengthen the faith of the man to whom, acting on his own authority, he gave the kingdom, whom he called the rock, thereby declaring him to be the foundation of the Church [Matt. 16:18]?” (The Faith 4:5 [A.D. 379]).
Serapion- “Accept therewith our hallowing too, as we say, ‘Holy, holy, holy Lord Sabaoth, heaven and earth is full of your glory.’ Heaven is full, and full is the earth, with your magnificent glory, Lord of virtues. Full also is this sacrifice, with your strength and your communion; for to you we offer this living sacrifice, this unbloody oblation” (Prayer of the Eucharistic Sacrifice 13:12-16 [A.D. 350]).
Didache- "Assemble on the Lord’s day, and break bread and offer the Eucharist; but first make confession of your faults, so that your sacrifice may be a pure one. Anyone who has a difference with his fellow is not to take part with you until he has been reconciled, so as to avoid any profanation of your sacrifice [Matt. 5:23-24]. For this is the offering of which the Lord has said, ‘Everywhere and always bring me a sacrifice that is undefiled, for I am a great king, says the Lord, and my name is the wonder of nations’ [Mal. 1:11, 14]” (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]).
I was raised in Lutheran Church till my confirmation and till I was 16 . I never heard a complete look at reformation. I have seen the films and read some about Martin Luther, John Wesley, Calvin, but I appreciate your channel. This was wonderful today.
You are not missing much trust me. “Christ committed adultery first of all with the women at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: ‘Whatever has He been doing with her?’ Secondly, with Mary Magdalen, and thirdly with the women taken in adultery whom He dismissed so lightly. Thus even, Christ who was so righteous must have been guilty of fornication before He died.” ~Martin Luther
As a Confessional Lutheran, we don't believe in transubstantiation, but we do believe in the "bodily presence" in the Lord's Supper. Jesus says, "This IS my body. This IS my blood in the new covenant." He doesn't say, "this represents" my body/blood. Other denominations who believe in the real presence of God in the Eucharist - Anglicans, Methodists, Moravians, Eastern Orthodox, Catholics, and some Reformed Christians.
I love your heart and your summary, Allie Beth 💕👍🙏, but it always amazes me when a Christian explains the Reformation, yet uses a counter-Reformation translation of the Bible to do so. All of the modern versions are based on Greek texts that are basically corrupted, catholicized texts from Alexandria, Egypt. Only the underlying texts of the AV1611 King James Bible were translated without catholic bias from the line of divinely preserved texts from Antioch, Syria. For a quick foray into the subject, I highly recommend the book, Did the Catholic Church Give Us the Bible, by David W. Daniels. For those who want to really delve into the whole Bible version issue, buy yourself a copy of New Age Bible Versions, by G. A. Ripplinger. You won't regret it.
AB - I have just started listening to you and in most of what I have seen so far you are usually spot-on. You are close here, but off by just a little bit here. For example, most Lutheran, Episcopal, and many conservative Presbyterian churches do believe in "true Presence in the elements" - bread and wine. This was the belief and practice in the early church and was the cause of many thinking Christians practiced cannibalism
John Chrysostom- “Jesus said to Peter, ‘Feed my sheep’. Why does He pass over the others and speak of the sheep to Peter? He was the chosen one of the Apostles, the mouth of the disciples, the head of the choir. For this reason Paul went up to see him rather than the others. And also to show him that he must have confidence now that his denial had been purged away. He entrusts him with the rule [prostasia] over the brethren. . . . If anyone should say ‘Why then was it James who received the See of Jerusalem?’, I should reply that He made Peter the teacher not of that see but of the whole world.” (Homilies on John, 88.1).
Clement of Alexandria on the Eucharist- “’Eat my flesh,’ [Jesus] says, ‘and drink my blood.’ The Lord supplies us with these intimate nutrients, he delivers over his flesh and pours out his blood, and nothing is lacking for the growth of his children” (The Instructor of Children 1:6:43:3 [A.D. 191]).
Matthew 25:31-46 “When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left. Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’ And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
If you’re interested in actually knowing what the Catholic Church teaches then I recommend you reading converts like Scott Hahn (The Lamb’s Supper), Matthew Leonard (the Bible and the Sacraments) , Taylor Marshall (Video commentary on The Revelation) , and Stephen Wood (Grace & Justification: an Evangelical’s Guide to Catholic Beliefs). Having been a Lutheran up until my mid thirties, I found your presentation to be quite lacking and I hope you study the Church fathers, the Catechism and the above theologians to get a more accurate concept of the Church and its doctrines.
The Bible warns about ‘another Jesus, another spirit, and another gospel,’ that are counterfeits of the true Jesus, Holy Spirit, and gospel of Christ (see 2 Corinthians 11:3-4). Many sincere people have put their trust in counterfeits. A counterfeit Jesus, spirit, and gospel do no save anyone. Mike Gendron has excellent talks on UA-cam contrasting the true Jesus, Holy Spirit, and gospel from the counterfeit. Be sure that you have trusted in the genuine and not the false!
Great topic! I am stumped at finding where the foundation of Protestant faith differs from Catholicism (the faith not the works). A listening Catholic! 🕊️ It would appear to me Luther would probably be a Saint, given the church has gone back on declarations/trails and overturned them (Joan of Arc, for example). Unless he outright denied the Catholic Church.
"One or ALL of us is wrong because the Bible is always right." And that right there is why I left Protestantism. If we could all be wrong, we're differing from Jesus who came to make a true religion, not a religion that is partially true. An infallible book on its own is not enough without an infallible interpreter to solve disputes.
“And when a dissension arose about these said people [the Montanists], the brethren in Gaul once more . . . [sent letters] to the brethren in Asia and Phrygia and, moreover to Eleutherius, who was then [A.D. 175] bishop of the Romans, negotiating for the peace of the churches” (Eusebius, Church History 5:3:4 [A.D. 312])
Great episode Allie! Great presentation of the Gospel, I was encouraged and I pray that people will listen to this and come to have faith in Christ. The only thing I disagree with is the mention of the James passage. The James passage is often misused and people try to say that “if you don’t have works/fruit, you were never saved”. I believe the passage in James by referring to a “dead faith” is referring to a faith that is ineffective, not saying that you aren’t justified if you don’t have works. We have to distinguish between justification and sanctification, when the Bible talks about works, fruit, or repentance, it is always referring to sanctification not justification. Some resources that helped me understand this come from Grace Evangelical Society and other free grace theology resources
Except the verse doesn’t say “dead faith”, it just says “faith without works is dead.” All faith. This doesn’t mean if we don’t have works we never had true faith. It means we must put on Christ and let him transform us, which will produce good works. You will know a tree by its fruit. The reformed view is not biblical and does not align with reality - people come to Christ and then leave Christ all the time. We must keep the faith and follow Jesus.
It is important to wash your robes in the blood of the lamb. That means going to the sacrament of confession. The works of a Christian are to participate in the sacraments.
What can I read about Luther's criticism of the Jewish people? It's relevant today as many people are being persecuted and canceled for simply discussing this topic. I doubt it's coincidence.
Tertullian on Apostolic succession- “[The apostles] founded churches in every city, from which all the other churches, one after another, derived the tradition of the faith, and the seeds of doctrine, and are every day deriving them, that they may become churches. Indeed, it is on this account only that they will be able to deem themselves apostolic, as being the offspring of apostolic churches. Every sort of thing must necessarily revert to its original for its classification. Therefore the churches, although they are so many and so great, comprise but the one primitive Church, [founded] by the apostles, from which they all [spring]. In this way, all are primitive, and all are apostolic, while they are all proved to be one in unity” (Demurrer Against the Heretics 20 [A.D. 200]). “[W]hat it was which Christ revealed to them [the apostles] can, as I must here likewise prescribe, properly be proved in no other way than by those very churches which the apostles founded in person, by declaring the gospel to them directly themselves . . . If then these things are so, it is in the same degree manifest that all doctrine which agrees with the apostolic churches-those molds and original sources of the faith must be reckoned for truth, as undoubtedly containing that which the churches received from the apostles, the apostles from Christ, [and] Christ from God. Whereas all doctrine must be prejudged as false which savors of contrariety to the truth of the churches and apostles of Christ and God. It remains, then, that we demonstrate whether this doctrine of ours, of which we have now given the rule, has its origin in the tradition of the apostles, and whether all other doctrines do not ipso facto proceed from falsehood” (ibid., 21). “But if there be any [heresies] which are bold enough to plant [their origin] in the midst of the apostolic age, that they may thereby seem to have been handed down by the apostles, because they existed in the time of the apostles, we can say: Let them produce the original records of their churches; let them unfold the roll of their bishops, running down in due succession from the beginning in such a manner that [their first] bishop shall be able to show for his ordainer and predecessor some one of the apostles or of apostolic men-a man, moreover, who continued steadfast with the apostles. For this is the manner in which the apostolic churches transmit their registers: as the church of Smyrna, which records that Polycarp was placed therein by John; as also the church of Rome, which makes Clement to have been ordained in like manner by Peter” (ibid., 32). “But should they even effect the contrivance [of composing a succession list for themselves], they will not advance a step. For their very doctrine, after comparison with that of the apostles [as contained in other churches], will declare, by its own diversity and contrariety, that it had for its author neither an apostle nor an apostolic man; because, as the apostles would never have taught things which were self-contradictory” (ibid.). “Then let all the heresies, when challenged to these two tests by our apostolic Church, offer their proof of how they deem themselves to be apostolic. But in truth they neither are so, nor are they able to prove themselves to be what they are not. Nor are they admitted to peaceful relations and communion by such churches as are in any way connected with apostles, inasmuch as they are in no sense themselves apostolic because of their diversity as to the mysteries of the faith” (ibid.).
Augustine on Apostolic succession- [T]here are many other things which most properly can keep me in [the Catholic Church’s] bosom. The unanimity of peoples and nations keeps me here. Her authority, inaugurated in miracles, nourished by hope, augmented by love, and confirmed by her age, keeps me here. The succession of priests, from the very see of the apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after his resurrection, gave the charge of feeding his sheep [John 21:15-17], up to the present episcopate, keeps me here. And last, the very name Catholic, which, not without reason, belongs to this Church alone, in the face of so many heretics, so much so that, although all heretics want to be called ‘Catholic,’ when a stranger inquires where the Catholic Church meets, none of the heretics would dare to point out his own basilica or house” (Against the Letter of Mani Called “The Foundation” 4:5 [A.D. 397]).
Justin Martyr- “God speaks by the mouth of Malachi, one of the twelve [minor prophets], as I said before, about the sacrifices at that time presented by you: ‘I have no pleasure in you, says the Lord, and I will not accept your sacrifices at your hands; for from the rising of the sun to the going down of the same, my name has been glorified among the Gentiles, and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a pure offering, for my name is great among the Gentiles . . . [Mal. 1:10-11]. He then speaks of those Gentiles, namely us [Christians] who in every place offer sacrifices to him, that is, the bread of the Eucharist and also the cup of the Eucharist” (Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 41 [A.D. 155]).
It’s amazing to me that I was ever a Protestant. It’s a movement satan used to split Christ church, and Calvinist are just lost to the extreme. I pray for all of you caught in the talons of Calvinism. Eventually the signs will be so clear Catholic Churches will be wall to wall packed, and like some are saying I think that time is close. Please lower your pride and pray for God to show you Catholics is true. I was an anti-catholic for years and God showed me the truth out of nowhere. Pray pray pray. God didn’t decide to split his church 1500 years after Christ walked. Think about it.
Super blessed! As delivered to you by a super blessed man! “Christ committed adultery first of all with the women at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: ‘Whatever has He been doing with her?’ Secondly, with Mary Magdalen, and thirdly with the women taken in adultery whom He dismissed so lightly. Thus even, Christ who was so righteous must have been guilty of fornication before He died.” ~Martin Luther
“Dead in sin” is spiritual death, not physical death. It’s separation from God. A person separated from God is not a corpse unable to respond. Lazarus isn’t a soteriology passage, salvation is not its context or application. That passage is about the deity of Christ.
Sorry, Ms. Stuckey, a good many Protestant scholars would agree with me my observation of have not sufficiently studied Church History, and ironically enough the life and thoughts of Martin Luther. While there may not be 36,000 Protestant denominations, there, based on who does the study, might be 5,000. But, would anyone somehow feel better if there were only 500 Protestant denominations? Your statement and I summarize, that somehow "all" Protestant denominations agree on the basics is just not factual. Just look at orthodox Lutherans, Calvinists, Reformed (Zwinglians,) and Arminians. I did not even both going into offshoots of these theological disciplines. As for Luther he never sought the destruction of Holy Mother Church, just its reform and cleansing. That is until the Reformation became political and there began all the Reformations troubles. My goodness, Luther wrote a treatise defending teachings on the Blessed Virgin Mary. At this point in Reformation history,, now, "The Reformation is an old tradition still trying to tear down old traditions." Ms. Stuckey good and scholarly homework before a presentation is charitable to your target audience.
Our pastor, a very conservative Nazarene pastor but not terribly charismatic, decided to use a so-called Christian version of Dungeons and Dragons with the youth of our church. When that pastor moved away, our son asked me to buy the secular version of the game. Our son is a marvelous son, father and husband, but he has never been active in any church since then. I appeal to grandparents not to continue with the tradition of Halloween. Our children both do Halloween but our youngest dressed up as some character from a video game, I think. I suspect that our two children agree with Allie about Halloween. I suspect there are spiritual reasons to change the date for your fall festival and celebrate Reformation Day the 31st, maybe by watching the Joseph Fiennes Luther movie with older children and teens. I agree with Allie on almost everything but not totally on Halloween.
I don't know why Allie celebrating reformation day? because of that there are thousands of denomination.. Jesus started one Church the holy catholic and apostolic Church....
And it was corrupted hence reformation. Jesus didn't mean for man to dictate to people like a pope. The scriptures that teach us how to deal with church leadership look very different from the Catholic church. I am greatfull to read God's word for myself vs having to rely on the priest. All believers who follow Jesus a nd obey him are one true church there are some differences though.
Allie, I have not watched this, but I think I already know the essence of what you are saying. I'm a former Calvinist, who became a Methodist. I was a Baptist before becoming a Calvinist although there are some Baptists who are five point Calvinists like the Primitive Baptists. I'm a former Methodist who left Protestantism over 25 years ago. I purchased a 38 volume set of the Church Fathers. I started reading and studying them and found out that a lot of what I was told growing up Protestant is just not true. I could probably write a 500 to 600 page book on this subject. Much of what I read in books written by Protestants is not true, too. I discovered an error in one of Josh McDowell's books while reading the Fathers. He said that the so-called "apocryphal books" were not adopted until the 4th century. Clearly not true! I studied the Fathers to learn how the formation of Scriptural canon came about. It was a long process. The so-called "apocryphal books" were quoted in the writings of first and second century Christians. (The author of the Epistle of Barnabas and the author of the First Epistle of Clement lived in the first century. Clement mentions Judith in his letter. He knew St. Paul. See Phil. 4:3. Where is the Book of Judith in your Protestant Bible?) As for predestination, practically the only Church Father who taught that was Augustine. One of the Fathers politely called Augustine's doctrine of predestination "an error." Luther and Calvin's theology is very Augustinian. Anselm of Canterbury is the one who came up with the doctrine of the substitutionary atonement. None of you Protestants are truly "sola scriptura," not even Luther was although that is what he taught. For Lutherans, it is the Bible and me plus the Book of Concord, Luther's catechism, and the Augsburg Confession. For Presbyterians, it is the Bible and me plus the Westminster Larger and Shorter Catechisms, the Westminster Confession, and the Nicene Creed with that heretical filioque. For Baptists, it is the Bible and me plus a Bible commentary like Matthew Henry's commentary or the Broadman Bible commentary or whatever Brother so and so thinks the Bible means. The Methodists have their aids to understanding the Bible as they interpret it, too. None of you Protestants are truly Bible only. Also, they say to look at historical information about the 1st century to understand the Bible. So, it is the Bible and me plus historians. Every Protestant is a lot like the pope. He or she claims to be getting the truth straight from God while disagreeing with others who also claim to be getting the truth straight from God. The Holy Spirit guides the entire Church into all truth, not private individuals. "He will guide you (plural) into all truth." (John 16:13) He has been doing that since the first century with no 1400 year break in between. Anyway, I converted the Orthodox Christianity over 25 years ago.
@@katej910 Well, actually I was originally considering on converting to Catholicism while reading the Fathers because the closest thing I could see in the writings of the Fathers was Catholicism. I happened to see an Orthodox Study Bible (only the New Testament and the Psalms back then) in a bookstore in Florida. I bought it out of curiosity. I read the notes. I wrote to an Orthodox publisher in California (Conciliar Press). I asked them lots of questions in a letter. They sent me free lots of literature that answered my questions about Orthodoxy. One of the deciding factors for me was the issue regarding the filioque. As a Protestant, I never thought much about it. Protestants have still retained some of Rome's errors, but they do not know that. The original Nicaeno-Constantinopolitan Creed did not have the filioque (the words "and from the Son" in the clause about the Holy Spirit). That creed was written by a council of 150 bishops from various parts of the world in 381 A.D. No one in the Orthodox East accepted the notion that the Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son. A Pope in the 11th century wanted to change the creed without having another ecumenical council to consider the change he wanted to make, that is, add the words: "and from the Son," to the creed. No one in the East would go along with that. So, if he did call a council, it would be shot down. The Pope excommunicated the Patriarch of Constantinople (St. Andrew the Apostle is the first bishop of Constantinople. It was called Byzantium in his day.). (Read the canons of the Council of Chalcedon in order to understand what kind of authority that patriarch had received from that council.) All four Eastern Patriarchs (Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, and Constantinople) responded by excommunicating the Pope. Previous Popes had rejected the filioque by the way. You might think that the Bible teaches the procession of the Holy Spirit after reading passages in the New Testament like Romans 8:9 and Galatians 4:6, but that is not how Church Fathers like St. Hilary of Poitiers interpreted those words "Spirit of Christ" and "Spirit of His Son." The words in the Greek translated "of Christ" and "of His Son" are in the genitive case in the Greek NT. Genitive case indicates possession. Jesus said, "All things that the Father has are Mine." (John 16:15, NKJV) The Holy Spirit belongs to both the Father and the Son. Jesus also said that one who is sent is not greater than the one who sent him. (John 13:16) The Father sent the Son. The Holy Spirit also sent the Son. (Isaiah 48:16) Church Fathers like St. Ambrose interpreted Isaiah 48:16 like that. All Three Persons are equal in power and glory. As for the Father being greater than the Son, that means that either Jesus' human nature is less than the Father. (St. Leo the Great's interpretation) or the Father is the cause of the Son. (He begat Him. -- St. Alexander of Alexandria's interpretation). By saying that the Father and the Son spirated the Holy Spirit, you are saying that the hypostatic properties of the Father were transmitted to the Son. (Heresy!) St. Peter was the first bishop of Antioch before he became bishop of Rome. (Galatians 2:11; Lives of Illustrious Men, by St. Jerome; many other patristic sources) I learned in Western Civilization class in college that St. Peter was the first bishop of Antioch. I did not think much of that until I got into learning about Orthodoxy. Those words in St. Luke's Gospel (Luke 22:31,32) that Catholics use to justify their dogma of papal infallibility were never interpreted that way by any of the ancient Church Fathers. {Jesus prayed for him so that his faith will not fail. He prayed for Peter, not his successors. The Patriarch of Antioch is also his successor. John X is the Patriarch of Antioch now. He does not claim infallibility.) St. Cyprian of Carthage wrote a letter to the Bishop of Rome in the 3rd century. He called the Bishop of Rome his "fellow presbyter." St. Ignatius wrote a letter to the the church of Rome on his way to martyrdom and to some other churches in either 107 or 110 A.D. He was the third bishop of Antioch and had lived during the times of the apostles. If the bishop of Rome was his boss, why was he writing a letter to his boss' church? He also quotes in those letters from some of those books the Protestants and Jews (who don't believe in Jesus, by the way) reject. In the Orthodox Church there is nothing like a Pope although the very first bishop to be given that title is the bishop of Alexandria in Egypt (St. Mark is the first bishop of Antioch. He wrote one of the Gospels.). We still call him pope. The bishop who is first in honor among equals in our Church is the Patriarch of Constantinople in Istanbul, Turkey. The precedence for ecumenical councils to decide doctrinal and other issues is found in Acts 15:28. The Holy Spirit with a council decides. Not all councils are ecumenical, even if most of the bishops agree at the council. The whole Church must accept the council's determinations for it to be recognized as ecumenical, that is, the clergy and the laity of the Orthodox Church. The Holy Spirit guides the entire Church into all truth. The Church as a whole cannot err. What has been always taught everywhere the apostles founded a church and is taught by all or most of the respected teachers of the Church (i.e., Church Fathers) is the true faith. The doctrinal decisions of ecumenical Church Councils are infallible because that is the voice of the Holy Spirit speaking through that council. The Church canons on the other hand deal with the temporal life of the Church. There is doctrinal content in some canons. Some canons contain rules that are based on Biblical injunctions that have always applied and will continue to apply in all times. (Like abstaining from eating blood and prohibiting abortion. Only the Blood of Christ received in the Eucharist is the exception. Another long topic.) In summary, one Patriarch (i.e., Rome) rejected four Patriarchs in 1054 and the other four Patriarchs rejected the Patriarch who wanted to change an ecumenical creed without having a council of bishops to decide the matter. The first bishop of Jerusalem was the author of the New Testament epistle that bears his name, St. James. There is much patristic evidence for this. Read Acts 15. Peter spoke first. He is first in honor among equals. James, the first bishop of Jerusalem, spoke later. (Acts 15:7,13)
Pope Leo- “Our Lord Jesus Christ . . . has placed the principal charge on the blessed Peter, chief of all the apostles, and from him as from the head wishes his gifts to flow to all the body, so that anyone who dares to secede from Peter’s solid rock may understand that he has no part or lot in the divine mystery. He wished him who had been received into partnership in his undivided unity to be named what he himself was, when he said: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church’ [Matt. 16:18], that the building of the eternal temple might rest on Peter’s solid rock, strengthening his Church so surely that neither could human rashness assail it nor the gates of hell prevail against it” (Letters 10:1 [A.D. 445). “Our Lord Jesus Christ . . . established the worship belonging to the divine [Christian] religion. . . . But the Lord desired that the sacrament of this gift should pertain to all the apostles in such a way that it might be found principally in the most blessed Peter, the highest of all the apostles. And he wanted his gifts to flow into the entire body from Peter himself, as if from the head, in such a way that anyone who had dared to separate himself from the solidarity of Peter would realize that he was himself no longer a sharer in the divine mystery” (ibid., 10:2-3). “Although bishops have a common dignity, they are not all of the same rank. Even among the most blessed apostles, though they were alike in honor, there was a certain distinction of power. All were equal in being chosen, but it was given to one to be preeminent over the others. . . . [So today through the bishops] the care of the universal Church would converge in the one See of Peter, and nothing should ever be at odds with this head” (ibid., 14:11).
Augustine- “Among these [apostles] Peter alone almost everywhere deserved to represent the whole Church. Because of that representation of the Church, which only he bore, he deserved to hear ‘I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven’” (Sermons 295:2 [A.D. 411]). “Some things are said which seem to relate especially to the apostle Peter, and yet are not clear in their meaning unless referred to the Church, which he is acknowledged to have represented in a figure on account of the primacy which he bore among the disciples. Such is ‘I will give unto you the keys of the kingdom of heaven,’ and other similar passages. In the same way, Judas represents those Jews who were Christ’s enemies” (Commentary on Psalm 108 1 [A.D. 415]). “Who is ignorant that the first of the apostles is the most blessed Peter?” (Commentary on John 56:1 [A.D. 416]).
Great show, Allie. Very informative. It seems ironic that the Protestant Reformation, which sought to bring doctrine into conformity with the uniform and unchanging written Word of God, marked the beginning of so many new Christian denominations. But then again, what need had Satan to split a united church that taught bad theology and ineffective salvation? When Christians started reading the Bible, Satan had a problem on his hands. Ephesians 6:17 says we are to take the "sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God", with which we fight the devil's forces (v12).
Why wouldn't new denominations start popping out all over the place if that's what Lither did? 🤷🏻♂️ Once it's okay to say out of pride "good bye, I'm the Truth now", it's going to be acceptable to do it again. Sadly, that's why protestant denominations faith and theology is getting more and more liquefied every day.
Better to be divided because of truth rather than united in error. Before the reformation, the Catholic church forbids the reading of the bible and confiscated it from the people who have one.
@@ministeriosemmanuel638 why are you spreading lies about the catholic Church..the church never forbids the reading of the scriptures..there were not many printing press at that time and the Bibles were expensive at that so the normal people couldn't afford a Bible..and what you said about disagreeing..most Protestant denomination disagrees with their theology ...and how can you say that better to be divided because of truth?all Protestant denominations are dividing because each one of them are not telling the truth
@@visakhsajan3792 Ever heard of the Roman Catholic Council of Toulouse 1229? Decree of the Council of Toulouse (1229 C.E.): "We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament; but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books." William Tyndale was burn at the Stake just for Translating the Bible into English in 1536. Read your History
Ignatius of Antioch (disciple of John) “Ignatius . . . to the church also which holds the presidency, in the location of the country of the Romans, worthy of God, worthy of honor, worthy of blessing, worthy of praise, worthy of success, worthy of sanctification, and, because you hold the presidency in love, named after Christ and named after the Father” (Letter to the Romans 1:1 [A.D. 110]). “You [the church at Rome] have envied no one, but others you have taught. I desire only that what you have enjoined in your instructions may remain in force” (ibid., 3:1).
Council of Ephesus- “Philip, presbyter and legate of [Pope Celestine I] said: ‘We offer our thanks to the holy and venerable synod, that when the writings of our holy and blessed pope had been read to you . . . you joined yourselves to the holy head also by your holy acclamations. For your blessednesses is not ignorant that the head of the whole faith, the head of the apostles, is blessed Peter the apostle’” (Acts of the Council, session 2 [A.D. 431]). “Philip, the presbyter and legate of the Apostolic See [Rome] said: ‘There is no doubt, and in fact it has been known in all ages, that the holy and most blessed Peter, prince and head of the apostles, pillar of the faith, and foundation of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom from our Lord Jesus Christ, the Savior and Redeemer of the human race, and that to him was given the power of loosing and binding sins: who down even to today and forever both lives and judges in his successors’” (ibid., session 3).
Exactly! We call the month: Harvest, and 31st:the carnival (the European kind, like Venice and costumes, not so much like the Brazilian kind. Nothing wrong there, but it's different)...we'll add the reformation to it. Btw....i learned about it briefly, Martin Luther in JuniorHigh at 12 in Poland (Regular history class, this was a public school) and only in much more detail with Renaissance and Reformation class/lectures at a NYC college.
Ephraim the Syrian- “[Jesus said:] Simon, my follower, I have made you the foundation of the holy Church. I betimes called you Peter, because you will support all its buildings. You are the inspector of those who will build on Earth a Church for me. If they should wish to build what is false, you, the foundation, will condemn them. You are the head of the fountain from which my teaching flows; you are the chief of my disciples. Through you I will give drink to all peoples. Yours is that life-giving sweetness which I dispense. I have chosen you to be, as it were, the firstborn in my institution so that, as the heir, you may be executor of my treasures. I have given you the keys of my kingdom. Behold, I have given you authority over all my treasures” (Homilies 4:1 [A.D. 351]).
@@breannawilliamson9787 You won't be laughing when Christ asks you why you rejected His Church for the machinations of a 16th century degenerate priest.
Stucky and her co-religionists reject the Church. So the problem for Stuckey becomes that whilst she appeals to "Christian principles", she has no organ at her disposal to say what is Christian doctrine and what is not Christian doctrine. Instead she employs Sola Scriptura, a practice, which by its very nature, gives doctrinal confusion and continual division. All manner of bizzare and fanciful doctrines are justified under Sola Scriptura where each reader claims to have the "right exegesis". Thanks Martin Luther!
Trent Horn offers a great Catholic response to Allie's video: ua-cam.com/video/Dao6Lx0gN5g/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TheCounselofTrent
Trent is way too monotone. We Catholics need an apologist who can really grab your attention. Someone like Frank Turek.
@@robertolopez4081 I like Trent but I agree with you. When he spoke to Allie in the "Praying to Mary" debate he was way too polite. Every point she tried to make I've seen him demolish when he was talking to other protestant apologists. Trouble is, she interrupts and chatters over people so Trent should have just kept talking.
Allie quotes James 2 and says “that does not mean we are justified by our works”.
James 2:24 “You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”
Protestants can explain away their interpretations all they want, but when they take James 2:24 and try saying it doesn’t mean what it says, that’s what got me.
I did not want to be Catholic, but the truth became so obvious over time and the flaws of Protestantism were piling and piling.
Lots of love, Allie! I hope you find your way back home one day, but glad to still call you a separated sister ❤
Works are not the cause of salvation but the fruit of salvation. That is what James is dealing with.
@@Justas399 Oh, where does it say that?
@@Justas399 perfectly put.
@@NiRaSis If you're a heretic and a liar, sure.
@@Justas399 Your illogic is astounding. The NT teaches over and over again that one must do good and reject evil. That is totally contrary to the position of Luther.
As a former protestant, now Catholic convert it's frustrating how much the Church and it's teachings are misunderstood. And I used to have some of these misunderstandings I'm sure. First of all, purgatory is not between Heaven and hell. That seems to imply that someone in purgatory can go to hell which is not the case, everyone in purgatory will go to Heaven.
She isn't misunderstanding. She is a damnable liar.
@@j.knight9335 have charity, you cannot read her soul.
@@rushthezeppelin That is true charity. Failing to properly research and understand these issues before acting as a teacher of others is inexcusable. It is just as dangerous to souls as intentionally misleading people. Failing to learn what the Church actually teaches before "instructing" others is lying by omission.
@Jill Domschot No. When you presume to teach on important matters of faith or morals, and you intentionally blind yourself to readily avaliable facts, that is lying. It would have taken her two minutes to find the official doctrine, but she made the free choice to speak without doing that. Her goal is not the truth, it's to push anti-Catholic nonsense.
Which of the Two Baptisms is required for salvation?
Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, and wore certain clothes, as prescribed by the 613 Old Covenant laws. Christ was water baptized by John and then received the Holy Spirit from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a New Covenant water baptism ceremony.
The conversion process is described below.
Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
(A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.)
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(See Jer. 31:34 for the New Covenant promise, and 1 John 2:27 for the fulfillment)
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Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?
What did Peter say below?
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text.
Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13)
“baptize” KJV
Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.)
Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5)
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant ----> New Covenant)
How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist?
Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ?
New Covenant water baptism is a beautiful ceremony which allows new believers to declare their conversion to the whole world.
Hopefully you see Trent Horn's response to this video that clarifies many of the misconceptions you state as "Catholic teaching". Praying for you. 🙏
The reformation is responsible for the almost irreconcilable division we see in Protestantism today. It’s a sad day to celebrate.
On the contrary, may our separation from Catholicism and its corrupt non-gospel be complete and eternal.
45:56 What I appreciate about the Catholic Church, someone (by the authority of Christ) is allowed to settle disputes about scriptural teaching
Settling a dispute is not the same thing as reaching the correct scriptural teaching. Peace is dear, but truth is dearer. We must have truth before peace.
@@hudjahulos and you will never know truth without authority
@@markwilkie7633 Exactly - God's authority. You don't solve the problem of interpreting scripture by adding the authority of the pope, because then you need someone to interpret the pope, then someone to interpret the pope's interpreters. You're right back where you started from.
God gave you a brain - use it. God has revealed himself directly to all men so that they are without excuse: In nature, in the prophets, and ultimately in his only Son. You don't need an authority.
@@markwilkie7633 2Timothy 3:16,17 tells us “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” It’s pretty self explanatory and anyone can figure out the way to salvation just by reading it. As a born-again believer, I experience forgiveness, the joy and the peace and the order in my life that only the Lord Jesus Christ brings. The Bible is so simple a child can read the salvation message, John 3:16,17 comes to mind, yet so profound that we spend our whole lives studying it and still learning. It’s a miraculous book.
@@jsshay01 study church history without bias. You will see the christian church, led by bishops from the beginning
Catholicism is the fullness of truth on earth. Its men are flawed but its teachings are not.
I was once anti-catholic. But then I reread the Gospel of John and found it hard to deny the Eucharist.
I also learned about Marian apparitions.
I challenge anyone to debunk Our Lady of Fatima.
No approved apparition has ever preached a different gospel.
Likewise I was a former Calvinist and became Catholic last year.
Blessed be Mary, full of grace.
But she didn't die for my sins. Our Lord Jesus did. He taught us the Pater Noster. We can pray to the Father directly.
God bless 🙏🏻
The devil can masquarade himself as an Angel of light. So Marian apparitions mean nothing. Is there anyway to justify all the atrocities commited by the catholic church in medieval times?
Praying for you, all Catholics and Protestants. I am a Eastern Orthodox and I pray for healing of all 🙏
And I pray for all Eastern Orthodox that they will reconcile with the Catholic Church, the one and only Church established and maintained by Jesus Christ. Come home.
@docverit266
8 jesus did not establish the catholic church. Where did you hear this geez
@@docverit2668May god bless you and thank you for being part of our beautiful Catholic Church. 2000 yrs our father Jesus Christ established the one and only church.
You’re not a Christian; you pray to Mary and bow to idols.
@@rosea2350 we love Jesus Christ and Mother Mary just like we love our own mothers. Even the founder of Martin Luther enjoyed talking with Beautiful Mother Mary but Catholics also believe that there is Only one God above everything.
Trent Horn has a gracious reply to this video from a Catholic perspective. ua-cam.com/video/Dao6Lx0gN5g/v-deo.html
In all fairness and to get what Catholics believe, you should have Jimmy Akin, Trent Horn or Tim Staples come on your show and answer your concerns about the Catholic Faith. They can speak to the teaching of the Catholic Church vs getting what you think you know the Catholic Church. We are all sinners and should respect and unite in Christ, not divide. That is Satan rejoicing when that happens.
Light and dark can not have fellowship. We do not preach the same gospel. Reformed Christians preach a gospel that saves, and proclaim the apostolic command to REPENT AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL. Catholics preach and teach a endless treadmill of hopelessness. Satan has used Roman Catholicism to reek havoc on Christians.
Very true ..and I don't think she would bring them on to the show.. because she is so stubborn about her Protestant beliefs and won't have an open mind
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May God blessed you my friend
Absolutely.....get Trent Horn on the show. I like Allie Beth but I'm a bit confused. The reformation as I know, in UK, is connected to Henry 8th and his opposition to the Pope and the Catholic church for not allowing him to divorce and marry Anne Boleyn and look at the life he led after defying the Pope. Most Catholic Churches in the country were destroyed.
It's a false teacher thing...... "However, Mary must not be disregarded, as she offers many graces, and mercy to all who call upon her intercession." This Catholic teaching is heresy. Mary was human not able to be called upon.
You don’t reform something by abandoning it. When you leave a marriage and start a new one, you are not reforming the original marriage. Revolution Day is a more accurate title of this day. There is so much to address, but I’ll address one comment: Allie used the mantra of Protestants. That verse about faith and works doesn’t mean what it plainly says. Is that because it doesn’t fit her Calvinist theology? Happy Divorce/Revolution Day Allie!
That's more accurate, Revolution Day!!
Nailed it!
They didn't abandon it they recovered it.
It bears mentioning that Luther did not leave the Catholic church, he was kicked out by the sensuous pope Medici.
The only deplorable aspect of the Reformation was that the separation was not complete. The Protestant churches to a lesser or greater degree retained some of the toxic elements of Catholicism. With regard to Catholicism, it is said: "‘Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues; for her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes." (Rev. 18:4-5)
When we understand our total depravity and God’s holiness, his merciful nature, and complete authority, we can be filled with hope in Christ and in him alone. Any other understanding leads to dependence on ourselves and our circumstances. Praise the Lord for the reformers!
Amen!
@@ministeriosemmanuel638 Total Depravity? that sounds like a non biblical calvinist doctrine
@@ElmachitoSilbateador These people are in a spiritual fog. I'd recommend the website of Most Holy Family Monastery
Trent horn has a commentary on portions of this video if someone wants to listen to input from the other side of the argument or story.
I hope she and trent horn will have a debate. She is lost, she needs to learn more about the catholic teaching.
@@beckscastiller she is not a leftist. I just pray I get to see a "marriage restoration" between Catholics and Protestants.
@@miriba8608 The only acceptable reconciliation is for all non-Catholics to convert to the Catholic faith.
@@j.knight9335 hope you don't mean all or nothing. I would think we would welcome home as many as make the decision to convert.
@@miriba8608 Yes as many as possible.
All the Catholic homies in here praying for y'all to come to Rome sweet home is the most based/blessed thing I've seen in a while
It's not as if fracturing has only occurred in protestantism.. the Catholic church is fractured as well.
Exactly! Just because they're 'Catholic' does not mean they all have the same beliefs. So how can they all be right?
The Catholic Church will welcome you back with open arms!
she wasn't ever a catholic
@@z.s.r.h Right. But her ancestors were. Any Protestant becoming Catholic is coming home.
Swim the Tiber!
@@kzbaby2002 and they didn't exactly have a different choice at the time! i'm thankful i am fully assured of salvation through grace alone, and have a direct line of communication with our Lord without the need of confession to a human being.
@@z.s.r.h So if you are assured then can you now live a life of sin and it’s all ok? You go straight to Heaven the same as Mother Theresa?
Hi Allie,
Watching your video today which you made about a year ago. I accept the doctrines of the Council of Trent (as well as all other the doctrines of the Holy Catholic Church) as I am a practicing Catholic, but I still enjoy listening to your witness as a believing Christian! Thanks for this episode of Relatable!
Hi Allie
In Romans, Galations and Ephesians, Paul is speaking of works as works of the law... circumcision, adhering to the 600+ levitical laws, etc. And it was Luther in his September Bible where he inserted "alone" in Romans 3:28 so it read "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith alone and not by works." "Alone" is not in the original Greek.
James on the other hand, is speaking about works of love, and here is the only time it says "faith alone" in 2:24 "See how man is justified by works and not by faith alone."
Also you mentioned the Catholic Church doesn't believe in the Bible as the foundation of the Church but Protestants do. That is contrary to what the Bible says in 1Tim 3:15 "... church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth." At the time of Paul's writings (and the other epistles), the Bible was the OT, so leaning on 2Tim 3:15-17 for sola scriptura is stretching it a bit as you would have to conclude only the OT is necessary, because that is what Paul was referring to there. After the Bible was canonized (by the Holy Spirit through the Catholic Church), then we could safely apply those NT writings as scripture... (although many Christians already felt in their heart many were scripture by the end of the 1st century.
Allie, please take a chance and bring a real Catholic apologist to give the Catholic perspective on one topic of theological disagreement between Catholics and Protestants. Maybe...
Jimmy Akin
Tim Staples
Scott Hahn
Peter Kreeft
I think you and your viewers would enjoy it and be able to clear up some possible misconceptions.
God bless you, your family and your work!
I agree… I am waiting for that day.
Here, in Romans 3[:28], I knew very well that the word solum is not in the Greek or Latin text; the papists did not have to teach me that. It is a fact that these four letters s o l a are not there. And these blockheads stare at them like cows at a new gate. At the same time they do not see that it conveys the sense of the text; it belongs there if the translation is to be clear and vigorous. I wanted to speak German, not Latin or Greek, since it was German I had undertaken to speak in the translation. But it is the nature of our German language that in speaking of two things, one of which is affirmed and the other denied, we use the word solum (allein) along with the word nicht [not] or kein [no]. For example, we say, “The farmer brings allein grain and kein money”; “No, really I have now nicht money, but allein grain”; “I have allein eaten and nicht yet drunk”; “Did you allein write it, and nicht read it over?” There are innumerable cases of this kind in daily use.
- Martin Luther
this is a well articulated and researched answer, but as a bystander I have heard the same argument from Orthodox Christians too, that Luther inserted the word “Sola” in sola scriptura which was not in the original Greek, and that same error still causes so many people to fall into erroneous beliefs even nowadays.
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We are still justified by faith APART from the law.
@@MFaith777 NOT justified by faith ALONE. Luther inserted “Alone” or “sola” there and is repeated and quoted ad nauseum in the protestant world. Pretty fishy changing scripture to then be justified “solely by scripture “.
I was saved as a child and raised in a Christian home, and I am just now learning about this, at age 40. Thank you Allie!!
This woman js a heretic and a liar. If you want to learn about the Catholic faith, read the primary sources.
Yeah well lot more too learn since she is wrong. Praying you Protestants see that your life raft is attached to the ark of orthodox Christianity.
Check out dr. Gavin ortlund. One of the best protestant apologist!!! 😊😊
Sorry to rehash the issue but I’m still confused as to how the conclusion of the Halloween episode is that it has Christian origins and not pagan. The argument was so shallow and vague. I appreciate your biblical and unapologetical stance on so many issues that It’s just so weird to hear you slap a Christian viniere on the issue and call it acceptable to participate in that without a biblical foundation.
Mike Winger made a video addressing this topic that I think does a good job addressing Halloween and Christianity.
@@HLysimon I am convicted on the issue. Just the fact Oct. 31 is the holiest day for Satanist is a clear indication that I want nothing to do with this celebration. Thanks for the suggestion I will check it out.
@@TruthwillsetUfree1 I totally see where you are coming from and think choosing to opt out from Halloween activities is perfectly reasonable.
@@Blind-Fools why?
I absolutely agree!
I have heard the argument from Orthodox Christians (and I’m sure some Catholics too), that Luther inserted the word “Sola” in sola scriptura which was not in the original Greek, and that same error still causes so many people to fall into erroneous beliefs even nowadays.
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@@MFaith777 Thank you for that. As we can see it doesn’t change or disprove my (actually others’ smarter than me) claim that Luther INSERTED the world “Sola” in sola scriptura.
Salvation comes NOT by “faith alone”
Yep, and what about this one?
Rom 4:5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness
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@@odetafecani1614 there are over 200 verses that say we are saved by faith and not by works. Our works do not save us. Only Jesus’s blood does.
Please make that sign into a T-shirt. "The resistance of tyranny is obedience to God." Love it!!
Calling God's Church a tyrannical organization is scary grounds, he did in fact say that the Gates of Hell would not overcome his church and so to say that the Church guided through the Holy spirit is tyrannical is to call God a tyrant. I think both you and I understand why that's not a good thing to do. It's important to recognize ourselves as One body under Christ and although protestants aren't in full communion with the Church, we still need to care for one another and lead by example. The Catholic Church desires unity through the good and the bad, but protestantism is a product of rebellion and pride, it bleeds the self into what should be the collective. I pray for you and everyone that they might open their hearts to the Catholic Church much in the same way as myself, we all need the Church, no one more than the other.
As a lifelong Protestant turned Catholic at age 28, I can say without a doubt that the Catholic Church is the fullness of life in Christ. Truly, you just don’t understand what you’re missing. 💔
Being distant from God gives fullness?? Praying through Mary, not being able to interpret the Bible by yourself etc. No it’s not.
After reading the Scriptures various times I am certain that the fullness of life is Christ Himself. John 1, 6, 14, 2 Corinthians 5, Romans 8, 1John 5, Philippians 1, Ephesians 1 and 2 ...just to mentions a few chapters where to corroborate It is not an opinion.
The Catholic Church system (not the people) is the Anti-Christ! Seriously. Do your research, I would be happy to give you with links to information.
@@Caesarsalad123 Interesting how every Protestant interprets the Bible differently. Hence you have over 33,000 different denominations. They all disagree with each other on basic issues that are very important. It's crazy! The very first Christian's believe what Catholics believe. Read the Church Fathers :')
@@MsLaurieperez what major issues exactly?? All Christians have disagreement, especially when we trust in man instead of the Word of God and the Holy Spirit. The Catholic Church today is not what the first Christians believe. Not at all. The example to follow is in the Bible, and the Catholic Church does not follow the example laid in the Bible. So you agree with all of the tenants of Catholicism then??
This is my Father’s world! We need to take back the rainbow as well. As a former Catholic, I was raised learning about the Saints or those who went before us and it is a shame we don’t teach our history and those that God used for His glory! Just study St Patrick-amazing story! We need to quit allowing the world to take and tarnish His good work. How many times does God tell us to “remember “.
Great show!
I just ordered a shirt from SDG Clothing that has a rainbow on it and underneath in large font: Noahic Covenant, ha! Can't wait to wear it and represent the truth. 🌈
Martin Luther himself believed in Purgatory, as Holy Scripture teaches we must all strive for that holiness without which no one shall see the Lord, as we shall each be judged as we have judged others and we shall each be held accountable for every careless word we have uttered and shall each be liable to judgment if angry with others! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
I’m Catholic so no surprises that I would have an issue with lots on offer here. HOWEVER I also think it was vital that the Catholic Church needed to be reformed (which it was via the Council of Trent). So much would of gone unchanged if ML hadn’t raised some of the concerns he did.
That said, I pray for a closer unity for all Christians from all traditions not just Protestants or Catholics.
Irenaeus on the Eucharist-
“He took from among creation that which is bread, and gave thanks, saying, ‘This is my body.’ The cup likewise, which is from among the creation to which we belong, he confessed to be his blood. He taught the new sacrifice of the new covenant, of which Malachi, one of the twelve [minor] prophets, had signified beforehand: ‘You do not do my will, says the Lord Almighty, and I will not accept a sacrifice at your hands. For from the rising of the sun to its setting my name is glorified among the Gentiles, and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a pure sacrifice; for great is my name among the Gentiles, says the Lord Almighty’ [Mal. 1:10-11]. By these words he makes it plain that the former people will cease to make offerings to God; but that in every place sacrifice will be offered to him, and indeed, a pure one, for his name is glorified among the Gentiles” (Against Heresies 4:17:5 [A.D. 189]).
“If the Lord were from other than the Father, how could he rightly take bread, which is of the same creation as our own, and confess it to be his body and affirm that the mixture in the cup is his blood?” (Against Heresies 4:33-32 [A.D. 189]).
“He has declared the cup, a part of creation, to be his own blood, from which he causes our blood to flow; and the bread, a part of creation, he has established as his own body, from which he gives increase unto our bodies. When, therefore, the mixed cup [wine and water] and the baked bread receives the Word of God and becomes the Eucharist, the body of Christ, and from these the substance of our flesh is increased and supported, how can they say that the flesh is not capable of receiving the gift of God, which is eternal life-flesh which is nourished by the body and blood of the Lord, and is in fact a member of him?” (ibid., 5:2).
Luther opposed those who believed the bread and wine of the Lord's Supper were nothing more than a symbol. Lutherans to this day hold to his literal interpretation of Luke 22 19 "This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me."
At the time Jesus spoke those words, he literally was still living/breathing in the flesh and hadn’t poured out his blood yet or body yet. It makes no sense to interpret that as his actual blood and body when in that moment that isn’t how He was interpreting it. It had a spiritual meaning- He was about to give His body and spill His blood for us. He was trying to help them see what He was about to do as the final lamb. That night they drank wine and bread. Jesus hadn’t yet been crucified. He was trying to help them understand what was coming.
@@MFaith777 As I understand it, Jesus is the bread of Heaven, truly alive in the Eucharist-body, blood, soul, and divinity.
@@duckymomorocks Jesus is the way, the truth, the life, the living water, the bread, the rock, the cornerstone... what is spirit is spirit and what is flesh is flesh. I think He was saying we need God in us for eternal life. Holy Spirit indwells a born again believer. And that He was about to spill His blood and give His body as a sacrifice for all as the final lamb. He died on the cross for all sin, and rose again, it is finished. He doesn’t need to be re-sacrificed every Sunday at communion.
@@MFaith777 The Mass is not repeating the murder of Jesus, but is taking part in what never ends: the offering of Christ to the Father for our sake.
@@duckymomorocks the offering doesn’t keep going and going. It was once and for all for all sin. The Father already accepted the offering. Jesus already said it is finished. Sin is done and paid for.
I still think that Catholic teaching is more true than Protestantism. Just by looking at historical arguments, catholicism makes more sense. However, I still like your podcast and I still think you are a person who is really close to God.
Hi Allie! Maybe you could invite Dr. David Anders on your show to discuss some of this.
Brothers and sisters, we are all sinners in deep need of Christ, let’s unite against our real enemies out there. Keep your eyes on our Savior. Love God and love your neighbors.
I wonder if Trent Horn or "How to Be Christian" will respond.
Trent Horn has.
Keep in mind, Luther would have rejected the likes of MacArthur’s claims to sola fide.
Yes, and he would be incorrect in that; but that doesn't mean that we need to throw out all the truth that he taught.
@PetersFam he isn’t incorrect.
I'm a Catholic and there are many Evangelicals converting to my church. Whilst I welcome them and am glad they are converting, I am saddened by the reason, which is the troubles within Evangelicalism and the loss of faith in the "mere Christianity" fundamentals which we all agree[d?] on. I do not rejoice in the implosion of Evangelicalism anymore than in the implosion of the Mainliners before them. (Evangelicalism has been asking in 1000 different ways essentially "what is the _least_ I have to do tonhe a Christian". The fruits of this are the Deconstruction movement we now see ravaging the faith of so many). America, and indeed the entire West, needs a robust Protestantism to fight side by side against the forces of evil and degeneracy (its latest iteration being Wokism). And so I, along with Rod Dreher, exhort Protestants to draw on the sources of their own traditions and go deeper into them. Part of this is to learn the stories of Luther and Calvin. Are you a Baptist? Get a copy of the writings of John Smyth, Thomas Helwys and other founding Baptist ministers and read them. Are you a non-demoninational? Accept that you are broadly Protestant (yes, you are, and stop denying it) and get that book by Calvin that Allie recommend, or the Sermons of Martin Luther, a Book of Common Prayer from the Anglicans (there are conservative Anglicans now, the ACNA). Get into your Tradition and read something over 100 years old--preferably 200. Youll find that skinny jeans are no where to be found. You'll find a deeper, richer, Christianity and ecclesiology.
Ignatius of Antioch on the structure of the Church-
“Now, therefore, it has been my privilege to see you in the person of your God-inspired bishop, Damas; and in the persons of your worthy presbyters, Bassus and Apollonius; and my fellow-servant, the deacon, Zotion. What a delight is his company! For he is subject to the bishop as to the grace of God, and to the presbytery as to the law of Jesus Christ” (Letter to the Magnesians 2 [A.D. 110]).
“Take care to do all things in harmony with God, with the bishop presiding in the place of God, and with the presbyters in the place of the council of the apostles, and with the deacons, who are most dear to me, entrusted with the business of Jesus Christ, who was with the Father from the beginning and is at last made manifest” (ibid., 6:1).
“Take care, therefore, to be confirmed in the decrees of the Lord and of the apostles, in order that in everything you do, you may prosper in body and in soul, in faith and in love, in Son and in Father and in Spirit, in beginning and in end, together with your most reverend bishop; and with that fittingly woven spiritual crown, the presbytery; and with the deacons, men of God. Be subject to the bishop and to one another as Jesus Christ was subject to the Father, and the apostles were subject to Christ and to the Father; so that there may be unity in both body and spirit” (ibid., 13:1-2).
“Indeed, when you submit to the bishop as you would to Jesus Christ, it is clear to me that you are living not in the manner of men but as Jesus Christ, who died for us, that through faith in his death you might escape dying. It is necessary, therefore-and such is your practice that you do nothing without the bishop, and that you be subject also to the presbytery, as to the apostles of Jesus Christ our hope, in whom we shall be found, if we live in him. It is necessary also that the deacons, the dispensers of the mysteries [sacraments] of Jesus Christ, be in every way pleasing to all men. For they are not the deacons of food and drink, but servants of the Church of God. They must therefore guard against blame as against fire” (Letter to the Trallians 2:1-3 [A.D. 110]).
“In like manner let everyone respect the deacons as they would respect Jesus Christ, and just as they respect the bishop as a type of the Father, and the presbyters as the council of God and college of the apostles. Without these, it cannot be called a church. I am confident that you accept this, for I have received the exemplar of your love and have it with me in the person of your bishop. His very demeanor is a great lesson and his meekness is his strength. I believe that even the godless do respect him” (ibid., 3:1-2).
“He that is within the sanctuary is pure; but he that is outside the sanctuary is not pure. In other words, anyone who acts without the bishop and the presbytery and the deacons does not have a clear conscience” (ibid., 7:2).
“I cried out while I was in your midst, I spoke with a loud voice, the voice of God: ‘Give heed to the bishop and the presbytery and the deacons.’ Some suspect me of saying this because I had previous knowledge of the division certain persons had caused; but he for whom I am in chains is my witness that I had no knowledge of this from any man. It was the Spirit who kept preaching these words, ‘Do nothing without the bishop, keep your body as the temple of God, love unity, flee from divisions, be imitators of Jesus Christ, as he was imitator of the Father’” (Letter to the Philadelphians 7:1-2 [A.D. 110]).
Clement-
“Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its sacrifices. Blessed are those presbyters who have already finished their course, and who have obtained a fruitful and perfect release” (Letter to the Corinthians 44:4-5 [A.D. 80]).
Thank you, Allie! Like you, I didn’t learn about Reformation Day when I was growing up (even though I have a wonderful Christmas mom and went to a Christian high school). I’m so thankful for the Reformation, though! And I’m thankful for YOU! Thank you for regularly bringing us back to the Word and encouraging us to place our hope in the Lord, no matter the circumstances around us.
“Christ committed adultery first of all with the women at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: ‘Whatever has He been doing with her?’ Secondly, with Mary Magdalen, and thirdly with the women taken in adultery whom He dismissed so lightly. Thus even, Christ who was so righteous must have been guilty of fornication before He died.” ~Martin Luther
The reformation was a bunch or virtue signaling hacks just making stuff up. If you're going to interpret the Bible, you need an interpretive tradition. But who is to say that interpretive tradition is correct?
Btw, what modern low church protestants ignore is that the earliest protestants justified their position based on an authority and tradition of the Church where their views supposedly went back in a continuous line to the early Church. Now, there was never any evidence of this, they were gross liars, but they at least understood that would be necessary. They pushed the idea of accretionism anr successionism that have now been thoroughly debunked. You follow in their tradition, yet you don't believe many of the things they did and probably don't at all believe in their justifications for authority, so reconsider your position.
I recently found out that in the 1100’s Henry ll had let the pope or bishop to license and regulate a brothel. The prostitutes were called the Winchester Geese. 😬😬
Soooo I’m not surprised Luther saw issues 😂
There's an entire period of the Papacy called the "pornocracy"...it's exactly as it sounds...
The Church never supported that. A bad pope proves absolutely nothing. As many Catholics during that time saw a problem with that too.
@@gch8810 except for the fact that the pope is considered the vicar of Christ by Rome and is infallible.
@@johnking9161 on doctrine only. Get your information correct. You don’t know the catholic faith at all friend.
@@johnking9161 You clearly don't understand how the Papacy works and what his charism of infallibility entails.
Men do not decide who makes our commandments and who can enter the Kingdom of God. Christ alone.
Cyprian of Carthage-
"If Christ Jesus, our Lord and God, is himself the high priest of God the Father; and if he offered himself as a sacrifice to the Father; and if he commanded that this be done in commemoration of himself, then certainly the priest, who imitates that which Christ did, truly functions in place of Christ” (Letters 63:14 [A.D. 253]).
Amen Allie!! So thankful for the church reformation. Hopefully you can check out dr. Gavin ortuland. One of the best protestant apologist. He defends our faith beautifully. God bless!!😊❤
if you truly study the early Church Fathers, you won’t find the origin of Protestantism. There is also a Protestant selective historical narrative shared here that is lacking in depth of historical accuracy. As Cardinal Neumann said “to study history is to become Catholic”. This from someone who bounced around various Evangelical churches for almost 50 years. Luther and Calvin believed in Purgatory by the way… one of many misleading statements in this celebration of the tearing apart of the church
Your church is founded by Luther in 1517; the one true Church is founded by Jesus in 33AD and "the gates of hell will never prevail over it"
the church is non denominational and wide spread. it is those who follow and believe in Christ Jesus for their salvation which is by grace alone not by works lest any man should boast. it is by Christ we are saved. not mary or saints or Joseph Smith
it is those born again who are the church. not rituals or a man other than Jesus. i pray for those who put faith in themselves
30AD according to most solid bible teachers….
ML did not form the church in 1517 but Reformed it cause it was Deformed by greed, pride, politics, power, and non Greek manuscripts.
Note: ML did not set to reform but by God‘s providence it happened due to the Invention of printing press at the right time. Jesus saves not a bunch of men or a pope. Unfortunately during Luthers time and even some time before it the church controlled salvation from the womb to the tomb.🙁
Blessings❤️2 Tim 2:15.
@@yeshuaislord3058 The Catholic Church does not believe we are saved by works. We are saved by God’s grace alone.
@@kzbaby2002 actually you are indeed wrong. The catholic church teaches you are saved by grace and works. Look it up! Seriously
Cyprian of Carthage-
“The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ he says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church.’ . . . On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was [i.e., apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. So too, all [the apostles] are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?” (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]).
Cyril of Jerusalem-
“Then, having sanctified ourselves by these spiritual hymns, we beseech the merciful God to send forth his Holy Spirit upon the gifts lying before him, that he may make the bread the Body of Christ and the wine the Blood of Christ, for whatsoever the Holy Spirit has touched is surely sanctified and changed. Then, upon the completion of the spiritual sacrifice, the bloodless worship, over that propitiatory victim we call upon God for the common peace of the churches, for the welfare of the world, for kings, for soldiers and allies, for the sick, for the afflicted; and in summary, we all pray and offer this sacrifice for all who are in need” (Catechetical Lectures 23:7-8 [A.D. 350])
Thanks for making this episode! I have been listening to a lot of Catholic youtubers recently. Very talented conservative commentators. It was very helpful to be reminded of why the reformation was so necessary and still relevant today.
As a Catholic I really find Allies post informative and interesting. I always wondered why protestants just left to start their own churches , called it reformation, not rebellion While others
St. Catherine of Genoa
St. Thomas More
St. Ignatius of Loyola
St. Francis Xavier
St. Philip Neri
St. Charles Borromeo
St. Pius V
St. Teresa of Avila
St. John of the Cross
St. Francis de Sales
St. Catherine of Genoa
St. Thomas More
St. Ignatius of Loyola
St. Francis Xavier
St. Philip Neri
St. Charles Borromeo
St. Pius V
St. Teresa of Avila
St. John of the Cross
St. Francis de Sales
Actually stayed and worked at reforming The Church
@@jublli2690 it's because we believe that that the church is accountable to God and the Bible, not to Rome. The point was not to reform Roman Catholicism per se but to reform Christianity. Obviously in that process, not all Christians are going to want to reform.
Hey Do you watch truth unites(Gavin ortlund)
@@theknight8524 no, I haven't watched that one. I'll check it out.
@@jublli2690 + St.Catherine of Sienna
I would absolutely love a series on the reformation! That would be so interesting and probably really helpful
Read the first hand documents for yourself. The "reformation" was of Satan. This woman is a Hell-bound liar.
“Christ committed adultery first of all with the women at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: ‘Whatever has He been doing with her?’ Secondly, with Mary Magdalen, and thirdly with the women taken in adultery whom He dismissed so lightly. Thus even, Christ who was so righteous must have been guilty of fornication before He died.” ~Martin Luther
As someone who is trying very hard to reconciliate the catholic faith that was handed to me by both of my brave grandfathers and my grandmothers. Thank you for reminding me of the deep boundless love and honor i have for my protestant friends and mentors who were no fear, all courage type of people and my new eastern orthodox friends and all of there endless and bold wisdom. We will be one church again. Elahi the holy of all holy's, i will not lose faith.
Amén, dear sibling in Christ. Love you in Him!
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I was not when I became a Catholic taught that Luther was a wicked heretic. I was taught that he most probably would not have been admitted to the Monastery, or to the priesthood today, not because of the doctrines he later developed and changed over time contradicting himself as time went on, but because he entered seeking both a refuge from the world and out of fear making a promise to enter religion if he survived a thunder storm. Add to that the issues he had with not being assured of Christ's promise that if he confessed his sinfulness, and was given absolution that Christ had forgiven him. This came not from the Catholic Church, or any priest, but from a review of Erik Erikson a Protestant Psychologist who did a study on Luther's young life. Luther had wild mood swings both before and after he broke with the Church. He was at the debates with Cardinal Eck unable to explain either from Scripture or any other source where his new doctrines came from, so rather than using the Scripture to explain himself, he made the now famous and mis quoted, "Here I stand, I can do no more."
With Indulgences and their sale. Johann Tetzel the Dominican friar who invented the saying, When the coin in the coffer rings, a soul from Purgatory springs." Tetzel was tried by a Court of the Church and condemned for promising the sale of Indulgences was a guarantee of salvation, and his license to preach and provide the sacraments to the faithful for his heretical teaching. The truth is that Indulgences are not a pardon from sin, one had to already be sorry for one's sins, and be contrite for having sinned, making a firm amendment to strive to overcome a sinful life. Indulgences, per Catholic teaching both today and when Luther protested Tetzel's non-Catholic teachings never held that Indulgences (which are still used today) are a forgiveness for sins. One of my favorite Indulgences is granted to Catholics who read at least 15 minutes of the Sacred Scriptures each day. Not a penny need be paid for that and thousands of other indulgences granted for spiritual acts and acts of charity if done in union with and for the glory of Christ.
As to the misinformation on the Scriptures and Latin. I have a couple of pages from Bibles printed in and before the 1500s. Yup a couple are hand illuminated in Latin, but one is in German, and was printed when Luther was 4 years old in Low German, it was one of almost 40 German translations of the OT and NT approved by the Catholic Church. I also have French and Spanish translations from before Luther, approved for the Catholic reader. What we forget though is many people were either illiterate, or because before Guttenberg invented movable type, books had to be either hand copied, or the entire page had to be cut into wood, backward by the printer, a mistake meant that the entire page had to be recut again from the beginning. The cost and literacy were the main reason for the limited circulation of books, including the Bible. But don't give up hope. Catholic Churches and Cathedrals at the time of Luther and prior were not the large stone buildings we see today. They were the same buildings, but they were painted inside and out with pictures of Bible scenes, called the Pauper's Bible, this was a way that the illiterate and those who could not afford books could read the stories of the Bible. When travelling in Europe and visiting with people who have never been in these magnificent buildings I have them get up close to the walls, sometimes with a magnifying glass, where they can see some of the remaining pigment from these pictures. So to say that the Church kept the Bible in Latin and did not want the people to read or know the Bible is a fable and an assault on the Commandment that we do not bear false witness. There were also Paupers Bibles that were printed (again with whole pages cut into wood press plates) showing pictures of the Bible.
Luther was sadly an angry and possibly mentally ill man, but was I do not think evil, given his issues.
One last thought on him. He and other Protestants were granted safe conduct to and from the Council of Trent to explain their new doctrines, (after the Diet of Worms and other debates in Germany, which even many objective Protestant scholars say he lost because he blew up and ended up using the most base and crass language, condemning those who disagreed with him in all their daily activities, and in the most base terms.) He later did the same against his Protestant fellows who did not agree with him, and regretted saying we should all be able to interpret the Bible ourselves, if it disagreed with him. At first he translated the Bible into German (again not the first effort, and there were both Protestant and approved Catholic editions for over 200 years before his.) Then he removed Seven books from the OT and seven more from the NT. His fellow protestants told him he could not remove the seven NT books which he replaced, they were split on the OT books. He was also told by his fellow Protestant scholars that his addition to We are saved by Faith ALONE, had to have the addition of ALONE removed. He removed it from his mis-translation but incorporated it into his new doctrines. He was also a master of the Latin Language, but not a good Greek Scholar. So in translating the Greek OT and NT he mistranslated many passages, when he did not know the Greek word, he guessed what it may be if it sounded vaguely like a German word. So in Luther's Bible rabbits (a non-kosher animal) become Kosher.
Clement on Apostolic succession-
“Through countryside and city [the apostles] preached, and they appointed their earliest converts, testing them by the Spirit, to be the bishops and deacons of future believers. Nor was this a novelty, for bishops and deacons had been written about a long time earlier. . . . Our apostles knew through our Lord Jesus Christ that there would be strife for the office of bishop. For this reason, therefore, having received perfect foreknowledge, they appointed those who have already been mentioned and afterwards added the further provision that, if they should die, other approved men should succeed to their ministry” (Letter to the Corinthians 42:4-5, 44:1-3 [A.D. 80]).
Katharina von Bora’s and Martin Luther’s marriage was considered spiritually incestuous. The consummation of Katharina’s marriage to Martin, witnessed by at least one observer, was a flagrant defiance of incest. After all, the couple originally took irreversible holy vows and followed holy orders. That made them brother and sister in Christ. Additionally, by marrying and consummating the marriage, Katharina and Martin committed heresy with their bodies. They were also considered adulturers for abandoning Christ, to whom they were both spiritually betrothed.
As Saint Francis de Sales said before he converted 72k Calvinists back to Catholicism that your pastors do not even have the necessary conditions to preach the Gospel. What are those conditions? Immediate mission or Mediate mission. Immediate Mission is authority from Christ to the Apostles. Mediate mission is authority from the Apostles through the laying on of hands to the succeeding Bishops (Timothy, Titus, etc). Not even the Apostles themselves assumed authority nor did their successors. It wasn't assumed by claiming, "the Holy Spirit called me" while that same Holy Spirit in Protestantism is contradicting himself on numerous issues like: Sacraments (how many there are or if there are Sacraments), Baptism (if it saves or not), disagreeing on whether or not you can lose your salvation, Trinitarian theology vs oneness theology (or what it should be called that ancient heresy modalism) Divorce and remarriage (if its permitted or not), End times views, old earth vs new earth, Election, Mary, Covenant theology, worship, what faith alone actually means, numerous issues that have massive implications while claiming unity in the Gospel and at the same time disagreeing on what that actually means (except for Jesus dying for your sin) and how to be saved. That doesn't sound like the same Holy Spirit to me, nor does it sound like the God who isn't the author of confusion because indeed that is rather confusing.
What came first? The Church or the Bible? If it wasn't for the Catholic Church there would be no Holy Bible
The early church had the Hebrew scriptures from which they were able to teach Christ. The Word of God always precedes and creates the people of God.
@@mj6493 which Hebrew scriptures? There are lots and some Hebrews accepted some while other groups rejected others. So who has the authority to compile the modern day Bible and who did it?
@@paernoser871
Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you-that everything written about me in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the psalms must be fulfilled.” Luke 24:44 See, not everything is about Roman authority.
@@mj6493 who wrote about him and who compiled it into the Bible we use today and where did they get the authority to do so?
@@paernoser871 The answers to none of your questions is the Roman Church. What’s your point?
Ignatius of Antioch-
“Make certain, therefore, that you all observe one common Eucharist; for there is but one Body of our Lord Jesus Christ, and but one cup of union with his Blood, and one single altar of sacrifice-even as there is also but one bishop, with his clergy and my own fellow servitors, the deacons. This will ensure that all your doings are in full accord with the will of God” (Letter to the Philadelphians 4 [A.D. 110]).
Pope Damasus-
“Likewise it is decreed . . . that it ought to be announced that . . . the holy Roman Church has been placed at the forefront not by the conciliar decisions of other churches, but has received the primacy by the evangelic voice of our Lord and Savior, who says: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it; and I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven . . . ’ [Matt. 16:18-19]. The first see, therefore, is that of Peter the apostle, that of the Roman Church, which has neither stain nor blemish nor anything like it” (Decree of Damasus 3 [A.D. 382]).
Happy Reformation Day!
Happy reformation day!!!
I'm a catholic but I'm a fan of Luther's later work. His final book is his magnus opus
Ambrose-
“[Christ] made answer: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock will I build my Church. . . .’ Could he not, then, strengthen the faith of the man to whom, acting on his own authority, he gave the kingdom, whom he called the rock, thereby declaring him to be the foundation of the Church [Matt. 16:18]?” (The Faith 4:5 [A.D. 379]).
Serapion-
“Accept therewith our hallowing too, as we say, ‘Holy, holy, holy Lord Sabaoth, heaven and earth is full of your glory.’ Heaven is full, and full is the earth, with your magnificent glory, Lord of virtues. Full also is this sacrifice, with your strength and your communion; for to you we offer this living sacrifice, this unbloody oblation” (Prayer of the Eucharistic Sacrifice 13:12-16 [A.D. 350]).
Didache-
"Assemble on the Lord’s day, and break bread and offer the Eucharist; but first make confession of your faults, so that your sacrifice may be a pure one. Anyone who has a difference with his fellow is not to take part with you until he has been reconciled, so as to avoid any profanation of your sacrifice [Matt. 5:23-24]. For this is the offering of which the Lord has said, ‘Everywhere and always bring me a sacrifice that is undefiled, for I am a great king, says the Lord, and my name is the wonder of nations’ [Mal. 1:11, 14]” (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]).
I was raised in Lutheran Church till my confirmation and till I was 16 . I never heard a complete look at reformation. I have seen the films and read some about Martin Luther, John Wesley, Calvin, but I appreciate your channel. This was wonderful today.
You are not missing much trust me.
“Christ committed adultery first of all with the women at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: ‘Whatever has He been doing with her?’ Secondly, with Mary Magdalen, and thirdly with the women taken in adultery whom He dismissed so lightly. Thus even, Christ who was so righteous must have been guilty of fornication before He died.” ~Martin Luther
This is awesome! I just found out about this channel and I want to say, thank you for this beautiful piece of work!
As a Confessional Lutheran, we don't believe in transubstantiation, but we do believe in the "bodily presence" in the Lord's Supper. Jesus says, "This IS my body. This IS my blood in the new covenant." He doesn't say, "this represents" my body/blood.
Other denominations who believe in the real presence of God in the Eucharist - Anglicans, Methodists, Moravians, Eastern Orthodox, Catholics, and some Reformed Christians.
I love your heart and your summary, Allie Beth 💕👍🙏, but it always amazes me when a Christian explains the Reformation, yet uses a counter-Reformation translation of the Bible to do so. All of the modern versions are based on Greek texts that are basically corrupted, catholicized texts from Alexandria, Egypt. Only the underlying texts of the AV1611 King James Bible were translated without catholic bias from the line of divinely preserved texts from Antioch, Syria. For a quick foray into the subject, I highly recommend the book, Did the Catholic Church Give Us the Bible, by David W. Daniels. For those who want to really delve into the whole Bible version issue, buy yourself a copy of New Age Bible Versions, by G. A. Ripplinger. You won't regret it.
AB - I have just started listening to you and in most of what I have seen so far you are usually spot-on. You are close here, but off by just a little bit here. For example, most Lutheran, Episcopal, and many conservative Presbyterian churches do believe in "true Presence in the elements" - bread and wine. This was the belief and practice in the early church and was the cause of many thinking Christians practiced cannibalism
I don’t know anything except that God is behind everything.
You need to know more than that for salvation. Do you understand the doctrines of the Trinity and the Incarnation?
John Chrysostom-
“Jesus said to Peter, ‘Feed my sheep’. Why does He pass over the others and speak of the sheep to Peter? He was the chosen one of the Apostles, the mouth of the disciples, the head of the choir. For this reason Paul went up to see him rather than the others. And also to show him that he must have confidence now that his denial had been purged away. He entrusts him with the rule [prostasia] over the brethren. . . . If anyone should say ‘Why then was it James who received the See of Jerusalem?’, I should reply that He made Peter the teacher not of that see but of the whole world.” (Homilies on John, 88.1).
Clement of Alexandria on the Eucharist-
“’Eat my flesh,’ [Jesus] says, ‘and drink my blood.’ The Lord supplies us with these intimate nutrients, he delivers over his flesh and pours out his blood, and nothing is lacking for the growth of his children” (The Instructor of Children 1:6:43:3 [A.D. 191]).
Matthew 25:31-46
“When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left. Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’ And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
If you’re interested in actually knowing what the Catholic Church teaches then I recommend you reading converts like Scott Hahn (The Lamb’s Supper), Matthew Leonard (the Bible and the Sacraments) , Taylor Marshall (Video commentary on The Revelation) , and Stephen Wood (Grace & Justification: an Evangelical’s Guide to Catholic Beliefs). Having been a Lutheran up until my mid thirties, I found your presentation to be quite lacking and I hope you study the Church fathers, the Catechism and the above theologians to get a more accurate concept of the Church and its doctrines.
You are so right sir
The Bible warns about ‘another Jesus, another spirit, and another gospel,’ that are counterfeits of the true Jesus, Holy Spirit, and gospel of Christ (see 2 Corinthians 11:3-4). Many sincere people have put their trust in counterfeits. A counterfeit Jesus, spirit, and gospel do no save anyone.
Mike Gendron has excellent talks on UA-cam contrasting the true Jesus, Holy Spirit, and gospel from the counterfeit. Be sure that you have trusted in the genuine and not the false!
Study the Bible
Great topic! I am stumped at finding where the foundation of Protestant faith differs from Catholicism (the faith not the works). A listening Catholic! 🕊️ It would appear to me Luther would probably be a Saint, given the church has gone back on declarations/trails and overturned them (Joan of Arc, for example). Unless he outright denied the Catholic Church.
Oh, wait… so the creation of the Bible was invalid as it presided over the Word of God? Is it presiding or preserving?
"One or ALL of us is wrong because the Bible is always right."
And that right there is why I left Protestantism. If we could all be wrong, we're differing from Jesus who came to make a true religion, not a religion that is partially true. An infallible book on its own is not enough without an infallible interpreter to solve disputes.
“And when a dissension arose about these said people [the Montanists], the brethren in Gaul once more . . . [sent letters] to the brethren in Asia and Phrygia and, moreover to Eleutherius, who was then [A.D. 175] bishop of the Romans, negotiating for the peace of the churches” (Eusebius, Church History 5:3:4 [A.D. 312])
It's a sad day. It can be commemorated, but there's nothing to celebrate.
hey Allie. GOD BLESS YOU AND FAMILY !
Great episode Allie! Great presentation of the Gospel, I was encouraged and I pray that people will listen to this and come to have faith in Christ. The only thing I disagree with is the mention of the James passage. The James passage is often misused and people try to say that “if you don’t have works/fruit, you were never saved”. I believe the passage in James by referring to a “dead faith” is referring to a faith that is ineffective, not saying that you aren’t justified if you don’t have works. We have to distinguish between justification and sanctification, when the Bible talks about works, fruit, or repentance, it is always referring to sanctification not justification. Some resources that helped me understand this come from Grace Evangelical Society and other free grace theology resources
Except the verse doesn’t say “dead faith”, it just says “faith without works is dead.” All faith. This doesn’t mean if we don’t have works we never had true faith. It means we must put on Christ and let him transform us, which will produce good works. You will know a tree by its fruit. The reformed view is not biblical and does not align with reality - people come to Christ and then leave Christ all the time. We must keep the faith and follow Jesus.
It is important to wash your robes in the blood of the lamb. That means going to the sacrament of confession. The works of a Christian are to participate in the sacraments.
What can I read about Luther's criticism of the Jewish people? It's relevant today as many people are being persecuted and canceled for simply discussing this topic. I doubt it's coincidence.
Tertullian on Apostolic succession-
“[The apostles] founded churches in every city, from which all the other churches, one after another, derived the tradition of the faith, and the seeds of doctrine, and are every day deriving them, that they may become churches. Indeed, it is on this account only that they will be able to deem themselves apostolic, as being the offspring of apostolic churches. Every sort of thing must necessarily revert to its original for its classification. Therefore the churches, although they are so many and so great, comprise but the one primitive Church, [founded] by the apostles, from which they all [spring]. In this way, all are primitive, and all are apostolic, while they are all proved to be one in unity” (Demurrer Against the Heretics 20 [A.D. 200]).
“[W]hat it was which Christ revealed to them [the apostles] can, as I must here likewise prescribe, properly be proved in no other way than by those very churches which the apostles founded in person, by declaring the gospel to them directly themselves . . . If then these things are so, it is in the same degree manifest that all doctrine which agrees with the apostolic churches-those molds and original sources of the faith must be reckoned for truth, as undoubtedly containing that which the churches received from the apostles, the apostles from Christ, [and] Christ from God. Whereas all doctrine must be prejudged as false which savors of contrariety to the truth of the churches and apostles of Christ and God. It remains, then, that we demonstrate whether this doctrine of ours, of which we have now given the rule, has its origin in the tradition of the apostles, and whether all other doctrines do not ipso facto proceed from falsehood” (ibid., 21).
“But if there be any [heresies] which are bold enough to plant [their origin] in the midst of the apostolic age, that they may thereby seem to have been handed down by the apostles, because they existed in the time of the apostles, we can say: Let them produce the original records of their churches; let them unfold the roll of their bishops, running down in due succession from the beginning in such a manner that [their first] bishop shall be able to show for his ordainer and predecessor some one of the apostles or of apostolic men-a man, moreover, who continued steadfast with the apostles. For this is the manner in which the apostolic churches transmit their registers: as the church of Smyrna, which records that Polycarp was placed therein by John; as also the church of Rome, which makes Clement to have been ordained in like manner by Peter” (ibid., 32).
“But should they even effect the contrivance [of composing a succession list for themselves], they will not advance a step. For their very doctrine, after comparison with that of the apostles [as contained in other churches], will declare, by its own diversity and contrariety, that it had for its author neither an apostle nor an apostolic man; because, as the apostles would never have taught things which were self-contradictory” (ibid.).
“Then let all the heresies, when challenged to these two tests by our apostolic Church, offer their proof of how they deem themselves to be apostolic. But in truth they neither are so, nor are they able to prove themselves to be what they are not. Nor are they admitted to peaceful relations and communion by such churches as are in any way connected with apostles, inasmuch as they are in no sense themselves apostolic because of their diversity as to the mysteries of the faith” (ibid.).
Augustine on Apostolic succession-
[T]here are many other things which most properly can keep me in [the Catholic Church’s] bosom. The unanimity of peoples and nations keeps me here. Her authority, inaugurated in miracles, nourished by hope, augmented by love, and confirmed by her age, keeps me here. The succession of priests, from the very see of the apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after his resurrection, gave the charge of feeding his sheep [John 21:15-17], up to the present episcopate, keeps me here. And last, the very name Catholic, which, not without reason, belongs to this Church alone, in the face of so many heretics, so much so that, although all heretics want to be called ‘Catholic,’ when a stranger inquires where the Catholic Church meets, none of the heretics would dare to point out his own basilica or house” (Against the Letter of Mani Called “The Foundation” 4:5 [A.D. 397]).
Justin Martyr-
“God speaks by the mouth of Malachi, one of the twelve [minor prophets], as I said before, about the sacrifices at that time presented by you: ‘I have no pleasure in you, says the Lord, and I will not accept your sacrifices at your hands; for from the rising of the sun to the going down of the same, my name has been glorified among the Gentiles, and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a pure offering, for my name is great among the Gentiles . . . [Mal. 1:10-11]. He then speaks of those Gentiles, namely us [Christians] who in every place offer sacrifices to him, that is, the bread of the Eucharist and also the cup of the Eucharist” (Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 41 [A.D. 155]).
It’s amazing to me that I was ever a Protestant. It’s a movement satan used to split Christ church, and Calvinist are just lost to the extreme. I pray for all of you caught in the talons of Calvinism. Eventually the signs will be so clear Catholic Churches will be wall to wall packed, and like some are saying I think that time is close. Please lower your pride and pray for God to show you Catholics is true. I was an anti-catholic for years and God showed me the truth out of nowhere. Pray pray pray. God didn’t decide to split his church 1500 years after Christ walked. Think about it.
Have a blessed Reformation Day, Mrs. Stuckey!
Super blessed! As delivered to you by a super blessed man!
“Christ committed adultery first of all with the women at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: ‘Whatever has He been doing with her?’ Secondly, with Mary Magdalen, and thirdly with the women taken in adultery whom He dismissed so lightly. Thus even, Christ who was so righteous must have been guilty of fornication before He died.” ~Martin Luther
“Dead in sin” is spiritual death, not physical death. It’s separation from God. A person separated from God is not a corpse unable to respond. Lazarus isn’t a soteriology passage, salvation is not its context or application. That passage is about the deity of Christ.
Sorry, Ms. Stuckey, a good many Protestant scholars would agree with me my observation of have not sufficiently studied Church History, and ironically enough the life and thoughts of Martin Luther. While there may not be 36,000 Protestant denominations, there, based on who does the study, might be 5,000. But, would anyone somehow feel better if there were only 500 Protestant denominations? Your statement and I summarize, that somehow "all" Protestant denominations agree on the basics is just not factual. Just look at orthodox Lutherans, Calvinists, Reformed (Zwinglians,) and Arminians. I did not even both going into offshoots of these theological disciplines. As for Luther he never sought the destruction of Holy Mother Church, just its reform and cleansing. That is until the Reformation became political and there began all the Reformations troubles. My goodness, Luther wrote a treatise defending teachings on the Blessed Virgin Mary. At this point in Reformation history,, now, "The Reformation is an old tradition still trying to tear down old traditions." Ms. Stuckey good and scholarly homework before a presentation is charitable to your target audience.
Our pastor, a very conservative Nazarene pastor but not terribly charismatic, decided to use a so-called Christian version of Dungeons and Dragons with the youth of our church. When that pastor moved away, our son asked me to buy the secular version of the game. Our son is a marvelous son, father and husband, but he has never been active in any church since then. I appeal to grandparents not to continue with the tradition of Halloween. Our children both do Halloween but our youngest dressed up as some character from a video game, I think. I suspect that our two children agree with Allie about Halloween. I suspect there are spiritual reasons to change the date for your fall festival and celebrate Reformation Day the 31st, maybe by watching the Joseph Fiennes Luther movie with older children and teens. I agree with Allie on almost everything but not totally on Halloween.
I don't know why Allie celebrating reformation day? because of that there are thousands of denomination.. Jesus started one Church the holy catholic and apostolic Church....
And it was corrupted hence reformation. Jesus didn't mean for man to dictate to people like a pope. The scriptures that teach us how to deal with church leadership look very different from the Catholic church. I am greatfull to read God's word for myself vs having to rely on the priest. All believers who follow Jesus a nd obey him are one true church there are some differences though.
@@mktay2067 the church leadership came before the Bible..the catholic Church combined the Bible so what you are saying doesn't make any sense
The Roman church bears little resemblance to the church of he first century.
Also fun fact: catholic (lowercase c) means universal
Allie, I have not watched this, but I think I already know the essence of what you are saying. I'm a former Calvinist, who became a Methodist. I was a Baptist before becoming a Calvinist although there are some Baptists who are five point Calvinists like the Primitive Baptists. I'm a former Methodist who left Protestantism over 25 years ago. I purchased a 38 volume set of the Church Fathers. I started reading and studying them and found out that a lot of what I was told growing up Protestant is just not true. I could probably write a 500 to 600 page book on this subject. Much of what I read in books written by Protestants is not true, too. I discovered an error in one of Josh McDowell's books while reading the Fathers. He said that the so-called "apocryphal books" were not adopted until the 4th century. Clearly not true! I studied the Fathers to learn how the formation of Scriptural canon came about. It was a long process. The so-called "apocryphal books" were quoted in the writings of first and second century Christians. (The author of the Epistle of Barnabas and the author of the First Epistle of Clement lived in the first century. Clement mentions Judith in his letter. He knew St. Paul. See Phil. 4:3. Where is the Book of Judith in your Protestant Bible?) As for predestination, practically the only Church Father who taught that was Augustine. One of the Fathers politely called Augustine's doctrine of predestination "an error." Luther and Calvin's theology is very Augustinian. Anselm of Canterbury is the one who came up with the doctrine of the substitutionary atonement. None of you Protestants are truly "sola scriptura," not even Luther was although that is what he taught. For Lutherans, it is the Bible and me plus the Book of Concord, Luther's catechism, and the Augsburg Confession. For Presbyterians, it is the Bible and me plus the Westminster Larger and Shorter Catechisms, the Westminster Confession, and the Nicene Creed with that heretical filioque. For Baptists, it is the Bible and me plus a Bible commentary like Matthew Henry's commentary or the Broadman Bible commentary or whatever Brother so and so thinks the Bible means. The Methodists have their aids to understanding the Bible as they interpret it, too. None of you Protestants are truly Bible only. Also, they say to look at historical information about the 1st century to understand the Bible. So, it is the Bible and me plus historians. Every Protestant is a lot like the pope. He or she claims to be getting the truth straight from God while disagreeing with others who also claim to be getting the truth straight from God. The Holy Spirit guides the entire Church into all truth, not private individuals. "He will guide you (plural) into all truth." (John 16:13) He has been doing that since the first century with no 1400 year break in between. Anyway, I converted the Orthodox Christianity over 25 years ago.
I’m a lifelong atheist, just starting to consider Christianity. Can you please tell me why you converted to Orthodoxy over Catholicism?
@@katej910 Well, actually I was originally considering on converting to Catholicism while reading the Fathers because the closest thing I could see in the writings of the Fathers was Catholicism. I happened to see an Orthodox Study Bible (only the New Testament and the Psalms back then) in a bookstore in Florida. I bought it out of curiosity. I read the notes. I wrote to an Orthodox publisher in California (Conciliar Press). I asked them lots of questions in a letter. They sent me free lots of literature that answered my questions about Orthodoxy.
One of the deciding factors for me was the issue regarding the filioque. As a Protestant, I never thought much about it. Protestants have still retained some of Rome's errors, but they do not know that. The original Nicaeno-Constantinopolitan Creed did not have the filioque (the words "and from the Son" in the clause about the Holy Spirit). That creed was written by a council of 150 bishops from various parts of the world in 381 A.D. No one in the Orthodox East accepted the notion that the Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son. A Pope in the 11th century wanted to change the creed without having another ecumenical council to consider the change he wanted to make, that is, add the words: "and from the Son," to the creed. No one in the East would go along with that. So, if he did call a council, it would be shot down. The Pope excommunicated the Patriarch of Constantinople (St. Andrew the Apostle is the first bishop of Constantinople. It was called Byzantium in his day.). (Read the canons of the Council of Chalcedon in order to understand what kind of authority that patriarch had received from that council.) All four Eastern Patriarchs (Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, and Constantinople) responded by excommunicating the Pope. Previous Popes had rejected the filioque by the way.
You might think that the Bible teaches the procession of the Holy Spirit after reading passages in the New Testament like Romans 8:9 and Galatians 4:6, but that is not how Church Fathers like St. Hilary of Poitiers interpreted those words "Spirit of Christ" and "Spirit of His Son." The words in the Greek translated "of Christ" and "of His Son" are in the genitive case in the Greek NT. Genitive case indicates possession. Jesus said, "All things that the Father has are Mine." (John 16:15, NKJV) The Holy Spirit belongs to both the Father and the Son. Jesus also said that one who is sent is not greater than the one who sent him. (John 13:16) The Father sent the Son. The Holy Spirit also sent the Son. (Isaiah 48:16) Church Fathers like St. Ambrose interpreted Isaiah 48:16 like that. All Three Persons are equal in power and glory. As for the Father being greater than the Son, that means that either Jesus' human nature is less than the Father. (St. Leo the Great's interpretation) or the Father is the cause of the Son. (He begat Him. -- St. Alexander of Alexandria's interpretation). By saying that the Father and the Son spirated the Holy Spirit, you are saying that the hypostatic properties of the Father were transmitted to the Son. (Heresy!)
St. Peter was the first bishop of Antioch before he became bishop of Rome. (Galatians 2:11; Lives of Illustrious Men, by St. Jerome; many other patristic sources) I learned in Western Civilization class in college that St. Peter was the first bishop of Antioch. I did not think much of that until I got into learning about Orthodoxy. Those words in St. Luke's Gospel (Luke 22:31,32) that Catholics use to justify their dogma of papal infallibility were never interpreted that way by any of the ancient Church Fathers. {Jesus prayed for him so that his faith will not fail. He prayed for Peter, not his successors. The Patriarch of Antioch is also his successor. John X is the Patriarch of Antioch now. He does not claim infallibility.) St. Cyprian of Carthage wrote a letter to the Bishop of Rome in the 3rd century. He called the Bishop of Rome his "fellow presbyter." St. Ignatius wrote a letter to the the church of Rome on his way to martyrdom and to some other churches in either 107 or 110 A.D. He was the third bishop of Antioch and had lived during the times of the apostles. If the bishop of Rome was his boss, why was he writing a letter to his boss' church? He also quotes in those letters from some of those books the Protestants and Jews (who don't believe in Jesus, by the way) reject.
In the Orthodox Church there is nothing like a Pope although the very first bishop to be given that title is the bishop of Alexandria in Egypt (St. Mark is the first bishop of Antioch. He wrote one of the Gospels.). We still call him pope. The bishop who is first in honor among equals in our Church is the Patriarch of Constantinople in Istanbul, Turkey.
The precedence for ecumenical councils to decide doctrinal and other issues is found in Acts 15:28. The Holy Spirit with a council decides. Not all councils are ecumenical, even if most of the bishops agree at the council. The whole Church must accept the council's determinations for it to be recognized as ecumenical, that is, the clergy and the laity of the Orthodox Church. The Holy Spirit guides the entire Church into all truth. The Church as a whole cannot err. What has been always taught everywhere the apostles founded a church and is taught by all or most of the respected teachers of the Church (i.e., Church Fathers) is the true faith. The doctrinal decisions of ecumenical Church Councils are infallible because that is the voice of the Holy Spirit speaking through that council. The Church canons on the other hand deal with the temporal life of the Church. There is doctrinal content in some canons. Some canons contain rules that are based on Biblical injunctions that have always applied and will continue to apply in all times. (Like abstaining from eating blood and prohibiting abortion. Only the Blood of Christ received in the Eucharist is the exception. Another long topic.)
In summary, one Patriarch (i.e., Rome) rejected four Patriarchs in 1054 and the other four Patriarchs rejected the Patriarch who wanted to change an ecumenical creed without having a council of bishops to decide the matter.
The first bishop of Jerusalem was the author of the New Testament epistle that bears his name, St. James. There is much patristic evidence for this. Read Acts 15. Peter spoke first. He is first in honor among equals. James, the first bishop of Jerusalem, spoke later. (Acts 15:7,13)
Pope Leo-
“Our Lord Jesus Christ . . . has placed the principal charge on the blessed Peter, chief of all the apostles, and from him as from the head wishes his gifts to flow to all the body, so that anyone who dares to secede from Peter’s solid rock may understand that he has no part or lot in the divine mystery. He wished him who had been received into partnership in his undivided unity to be named what he himself was, when he said: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church’ [Matt. 16:18], that the building of the eternal temple might rest on Peter’s solid rock, strengthening his Church so surely that neither could human rashness assail it nor the gates of hell prevail against it” (Letters 10:1 [A.D. 445).
“Our Lord Jesus Christ . . . established the worship belonging to the divine [Christian] religion. . . . But the Lord desired that the sacrament of this gift should pertain to all the apostles in such a way that it might be found principally in the most blessed Peter, the highest of all the apostles. And he wanted his gifts to flow into the entire body from Peter himself, as if from the head, in such a way that anyone who had dared to separate himself from the solidarity of Peter would realize that he was himself no longer a sharer in the divine mystery” (ibid., 10:2-3).
“Although bishops have a common dignity, they are not all of the same rank. Even among the most blessed apostles, though they were alike in honor, there was a certain distinction of power. All were equal in being chosen, but it was given to one to be preeminent over the others. . . . [So today through the bishops] the care of the universal Church would converge in the one See of Peter, and nothing should ever be at odds with this head” (ibid., 14:11).
Augustine-
“Among these [apostles] Peter alone almost everywhere deserved to represent the whole Church. Because of that representation of the Church, which only he bore, he deserved to hear ‘I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven’” (Sermons 295:2 [A.D. 411]).
“Some things are said which seem to relate especially to the apostle Peter, and yet are not clear in their meaning unless referred to the Church, which he is acknowledged to have represented in a figure on account of the primacy which he bore among the disciples. Such is ‘I will give unto you the keys of the kingdom of heaven,’ and other similar passages. In the same way, Judas represents those Jews who were Christ’s enemies” (Commentary on Psalm 108 1 [A.D. 415]).
“Who is ignorant that the first of the apostles is the most blessed Peter?” (Commentary on John 56:1 [A.D. 416]).
Happy Reformation Day
Great show, Allie. Very informative.
It seems ironic that the Protestant Reformation, which sought to bring doctrine into conformity with the uniform and unchanging written Word of God, marked the beginning of so many new Christian denominations.
But then again, what need had Satan to split a united church that taught bad theology and ineffective salvation?
When Christians started reading the Bible, Satan had a problem on his hands. Ephesians 6:17 says we are to take the "sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God", with which we fight the devil's forces (v12).
Why wouldn't new denominations start popping out all over the place if that's what Lither did? 🤷🏻♂️
Once it's okay to say out of pride "good bye, I'm the Truth now", it's going to be acceptable to do it again. Sadly, that's why protestant denominations faith and theology is getting more and more liquefied every day.
Better to be divided because of truth rather than united in error.
Before the reformation, the Catholic church forbids the reading of the bible and
confiscated it from the people who have one.
@@ministeriosemmanuel638 why are you spreading lies about the catholic Church..the church never forbids the reading of the scriptures..there were not many printing press at that time and the Bibles were expensive at that so the normal people couldn't afford a Bible..and what you said about disagreeing..most Protestant denomination disagrees with their theology ...and how can you say that better to be divided because of truth?all Protestant denominations are dividing because each one of them are not telling the truth
@@ministeriosemmanuel638 That's false. You bought a lot of lies as Truth.
@@visakhsajan3792 Ever heard of the Roman Catholic Council of Toulouse 1229?
Decree of the Council of Toulouse (1229 C.E.): "We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament; but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books."
William Tyndale was burn at the Stake just for Translating the Bible into English in 1536.
Read your History
Ignatius of Antioch (disciple of John)
“Ignatius . . . to the church also which holds the presidency, in the location of the country of the Romans, worthy of God, worthy of honor, worthy of blessing, worthy of praise, worthy of success, worthy of sanctification, and, because you hold the presidency in love, named after Christ and named after the Father” (Letter to the Romans 1:1 [A.D. 110]).
“You [the church at Rome] have envied no one, but others you have taught. I desire only that what you have enjoined in your instructions may remain in force” (ibid., 3:1).
Council of Ephesus-
“Philip, presbyter and legate of [Pope Celestine I] said: ‘We offer our thanks to the holy and venerable synod, that when the writings of our holy and blessed pope had been read to you . . . you joined yourselves to the holy head also by your holy acclamations. For your blessednesses is not ignorant that the head of the whole faith, the head of the apostles, is blessed Peter the apostle’” (Acts of the Council, session 2 [A.D. 431]).
“Philip, the presbyter and legate of the Apostolic See [Rome] said: ‘There is no doubt, and in fact it has been known in all ages, that the holy and most blessed Peter, prince and head of the apostles, pillar of the faith, and foundation of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom from our Lord Jesus Christ, the Savior and Redeemer of the human race, and that to him was given the power of loosing and binding sins: who down even to today and forever both lives and judges in his successors’” (ibid., session 3).
hallelujah
Exactly! We call the month: Harvest, and 31st:the carnival (the European kind, like Venice and costumes, not so much like the Brazilian kind. Nothing wrong there, but it's different)...we'll add the reformation to it. Btw....i learned about it briefly, Martin Luther in JuniorHigh at 12 in Poland (Regular history class, this was a public school) and only in much more detail with Renaissance and Reformation class/lectures at a NYC college.
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Ephraim the Syrian-
“[Jesus said:] Simon, my follower, I have made you the foundation of the holy Church. I betimes called you Peter, because you will support all its buildings. You are the inspector of those who will build on Earth a Church for me. If they should wish to build what is false, you, the foundation, will condemn them. You are the head of the fountain from which my teaching flows; you are the chief of my disciples. Through you I will give drink to all peoples. Yours is that life-giving sweetness which I dispense. I have chosen you to be, as it were, the firstborn in my institution so that, as the heir, you may be executor of my treasures. I have given you the keys of my kingdom. Behold, I have given you authority over all my treasures” (Homilies 4:1 [A.D. 351]).
I was a year behind you in school and surprisingly I learned about the reformation in public school history class
I believe in the 5 solas and I’m not a Calvinist. ❤️
You may not be a Calvinist, but you're definitely a non-Christian heretic who rejects Jesus Christ.
@@j.knight9335 okaaayyy then 🤣
@@breannawilliamson9787 You won't be laughing when Christ asks you why you rejected His Church for the machinations of a 16th century degenerate priest.
Stucky and her co-religionists reject the Church. So the problem for Stuckey becomes that whilst she appeals to "Christian principles", she has no organ at her disposal to say what is Christian doctrine and what is not Christian doctrine. Instead she employs Sola Scriptura, a practice, which by its very nature, gives doctrinal confusion and continual division. All manner of bizzare and fanciful doctrines are justified under Sola Scriptura where each reader claims to have the "right exegesis". Thanks Martin Luther!