General Aircraft Ltd. ST-18 Croydon

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  • Опубліковано 25 гру 2024

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  • @shanegamble3746
    @shanegamble3746 Рік тому +22

    I have been a big fan of aviation history for over 60 years. It is always a delight to discover historical aircraft I have never known about. Well done. ✔

  • @HootOwl513
    @HootOwl513 Рік тому +17

    This is precisely the sort of aircraft I imagined being hijacked by a swarthy Mongolian-looking pilot in the opening scenes of ''Lost Horizon.''

  • @markadams5462
    @markadams5462 Рік тому +21

    Congratulations on creating a very interesting set of presentations of rare British aircraft. Keep up the good work and I wish you a great deal of success.

    • @talesfromthehutandhangar
      @talesfromthehutandhangar  Рік тому +2

      Many thanks, Mark. greatly appreciated! l am glad l am not alone in having the interest in these old aircraft transports. l have really enjoyed doing them and recording my podcast & other bits on this channel. l have quite a list of subjects to work on!
      Cheers! Keith.

  • @maxsmodels
    @maxsmodels Рік тому +5

    Cool one-off.

  • @cartmanrlsusall
    @cartmanrlsusall Рік тому +2

    It has a look similar to the comet racers very elegant aircraft.

  • @brockgrace7470
    @brockgrace7470 Рік тому +3

    Welcome to the whims of the algorithm, my friend. The more aircraft channels the better,I say.Good work on the video.

  • @chulian1819
    @chulian1819 Рік тому +3

    Watching this while in a tram in Melbourne,just epic

    • @talesfromthehutandhangar
      @talesfromthehutandhangar  Рік тому +2

      Thanks! Replying to this. I am still in bed, in Prem Inn in Malborough England. You win for the coolest location 😎 🤣

  • @alan-sk7ky
    @alan-sk7ky Рік тому +8

    Swept wings! it must be faster that a 262 look, look swept wings!!!!! 😉

  • @iffracem
    @iffracem Рік тому +8

    Looks like the result of a DH 89 Dragon Rapide mating with a Douglas DC3

  • @P61guy61
    @P61guy61 Рік тому +1

    Excellent. The you for posting.

  • @jeremyfdavies
    @jeremyfdavies Рік тому +1

    Fascinating!

  • @iainb1577
    @iainb1577 Рік тому +1

    It's a sad tale of a great looking machine.

  • @downwindchecklist6567
    @downwindchecklist6567 Рік тому +4

    Fantastic! These rare machines are really a nice change from the well known ones. A lot of research and work. Thank you for putting it together. Just subscribed!

  • @captaccordion
    @captaccordion Рік тому +6

    Thanks for presenting an aircraft I had never heard of. I was taken by the similarity of the wing shape with that of the DC3. Indeed, it would have been the success of the DC3 which relegated this aircraft to 'historical footnote' status.

  • @arthurcharles936
    @arthurcharles936 Рік тому +1

    I just discovered your channel. Great stuff! I've always enjoyed obscure aircraft since building some models published by the wonderful W. C. (Bill) Hannan in the 70's. Keep them coming.

  • @michaelogden5958
    @michaelogden5958 Рік тому +1

    What an odd craft! Thanks for sharing!

  • @leadsolo2751
    @leadsolo2751 Рік тому +1

    Love the info & Content - Subscriber No 89 😅

  • @ekspatriat
    @ekspatriat Рік тому +2

    With a paint job that would be a beauty.

  • @robertwoodliff2536
    @robertwoodliff2536 Рік тому +1

    Thank you...

  • @mysterycrumble
    @mysterycrumble Рік тому +1

    excellent. new one for me!

  • @travelbugse2829
    @travelbugse2829 Рік тому +8

    Fascinating! Have to say, those struts look all wrong. The Americans were well into all-metal structures with cantilever wings by that stage. The ST-18 probably would have lasted through the war in emergency use, but was pretty much obsolete as it came off the design board IMO.

  • @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
    @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus Рік тому +1

    If you squint it’s very Heinkel 111 from some angles. It looks like quite a decent design for the day.

  • @FlyingForFunTrecanair
    @FlyingForFunTrecanair Рік тому +3

    Very nice film. I’d just started researching the ST.18 for a film on my channel. Shan’t bother now! 😂

  • @lestocq
    @lestocq Рік тому +1

    Thanks for a good, interesting video. I hope you will get round to more weird and wonderful French airliners and mail planes of the period such as the Bleriots. Subscriber no 183.

  • @PRH123
    @PRH123 Рік тому +3

    Interesting... seems to have been fabric covered...?
    found a note in the internet that the wing sweep, as in the case of me262, was necessitated to correct the center of gravity... which speaks to a rushed design...
    Seems to have been quite fast for the day... but taking the specs from wikipedia it would have been weight and fuel - range challenged... with all seats full of standard pax + standard baggage it could have flown for less than 2 hours...
    Seems to have had a poor rate of climb and couldnt maintain altitude on one engine (!), due to the high wing loading designed for speed...
    Didnt have a chance in the market against Douglas, Lockheed, and other aluminum aircraft... makes you wonder what were they thinking to develop it... seems to have been focused on low cost to operate, for a small regional airline, that couldn't afford to operate the more expensive most modern aircraft... interesting approach...

  • @johndell3642
    @johndell3642 Рік тому +3

    Excellent presentation. The whole reason that the General Aircraft company had been started was to exploit the "monospar wing" designed by Swiss-born Engineer H.J. Steiger. Research into this had been financed by the Air Ministry because it promised to be a cheap way of constructing lightweight monoplane wings, albeit they were fabric-covered. The technology was then overtaken by the stressed-wing metal construction developed in the USA and independently in Britain by Bristol. The Croydon was initially supposed to have Bristol Aquila engines, but their delay in development led to the use of American engines in the prototype. The first part of the flight out to Australia was piloted by the notorious "Master of Semphill" - William Forbes Semphill. An odious character., worth googling.

  • @remlapwc
    @remlapwc Рік тому +2

    surprisingly swept wing for the time

  • @k3D4rsi554maq
    @k3D4rsi554maq Рік тому +1

    Great video.

  • @wickedcabinboy
    @wickedcabinboy Рік тому +2

    With a service ceiling of 19,500 feet did it have a pressurized cabin? If so, those square windows would have become a problem. Of course it didn't last long enough for that to become apparent.

  • @mannywilliams6409
    @mannywilliams6409 Рік тому +2

    Could be just me, but it almost looks like someone stuck wings and a tail on a bus.

  • @mickshawforty
    @mickshawforty Рік тому +3

    Great looking aircraft. Pity there were no buyers.

    • @mickshawforty
      @mickshawforty Рік тому +2

      ​@mipmipmipmipmipBeauty is in the eye of the beholder.

  • @GRAHAMAUS
    @GRAHAMAUS Рік тому +3

    A comment regarding the dark tail - it may not have been dark, but a bright colour, like red or yellow. Black and White photography often used coloured filters for particular contrast effects, and these block some colours, making them look far darker than they are. Without colour footage of any kind, and no documentation, there's no way to know.

  • @jvaneck8991
    @jvaneck8991 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting aircraft! Thatt it was able to touch down on a rough surface without damage speaks to quality design and construction execution. Looking at the fuselage, it does appear to be covered with aircraft cloth and dope; is that the case? Unfortunately those Pratt engines are long gone, out of production, so unless some equivalent can be scrounged, this aircraft could not be duplicated by an enthusiast. Oh, well.

    • @talesfromthehutandhangar
      @talesfromthehutandhangar  Рік тому +1

      Thank you. It makes you wonder if they could have gotten fuel, maybe it would have gone on and sold? If you click on the link to the docs, you can read more about it.

    • @TimTheInspector
      @TimTheInspector Рік тому +2

      Pratt R985s are probably the most common radial engine still in use.

  • @ufoengines
    @ufoengines Рік тому +1

    SO COOL!

  • @benhooper1956
    @benhooper1956 Рік тому +1

    Looked up the reef where it landed, imagine the engines are still there

  • @thomassawicki2065
    @thomassawicki2065 Рік тому +2

    Charlie Bravo was very lucky to find that reef upon which to land.
    I am a surfer and I have seen a lot of coral reefs.
    Not the place you would want to land an airliner.

  • @seamuscashin2606
    @seamuscashin2606 Рік тому +1

    i cant understand why the elevator was so low when the tail wheel broke the were in trouble looks it was on the lower longerons out of the prop wash just a thought well done on vid

  • @febweb17
    @febweb17 Рік тому +1

    Bad luck plays a big part on the success of all things mechanical.

  • @tuzonthume
    @tuzonthume 11 місяців тому +1

    I heard it that the britlords didn't appreciate the creature comforts of the DC3 so they stole the wings/engines and wheels.

  • @hodaka1000
    @hodaka1000 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if anything remains of it ?

  • @flyingtigerline
    @flyingtigerline 3 місяці тому +1

    Not a bad looking plane.

  • @huw3851
    @huw3851 Рік тому +1

    It's interesting that even in those days British Airways preferred to buy American. I'm guessing the American airlines didn't consider buying anything but American aircraft. No wonder the aviation industry in the UK had withered away.

  • @doctorshawzy6477
    @doctorshawzy6477 Рік тому +1

    wing struts are coming backinto fadhion

  • @cartmanrlsusall
    @cartmanrlsusall 10 місяців тому +1

    Good speed for a fabric covered strut braced airplane

  • @doctorshawzy6477
    @doctorshawzy6477 Рік тому +1

    a tragic take..new to me

  • @stay_at_home_astronaut
    @stay_at_home_astronaut Рік тому +1

    Laughs in Beech-18

  • @peregrinemccauley5010
    @peregrinemccauley5010 Рік тому

    Pratt and Whitney?

  • @bluephoenix8470
    @bluephoenix8470 Рік тому +1

    It was the " Cyberplane " of 1935. LOL

  • @peterjaniceforan3080
    @peterjaniceforan3080 Рік тому +1

    😢

  • @benwilson6145
    @benwilson6145 Рік тому +1

    NW Monsoon effecting Indonesia? You navigation is far worse that the Navigators

    • @talesfromthehutandhangar
      @talesfromthehutandhangar  Рік тому

      Just quoting text and being honest, my geography knowledge of the region is not good. But does a big storm in that region cause a chain of events?

  • @Cam-q8w4x
    @Cam-q8w4x Рік тому +1

    Great but please use a muffler when narrating, thanks

    • @talesfromthehutandhangar
      @talesfromthehutandhangar  Рік тому

      Thanks. Noted about the sound, it was not the best on this one but ran with it.

    • @EuroScot2023
      @EuroScot2023 Рік тому

      Hint for a simple and cheap muffler/pop filter.
      'Borrow' from a friend's sewing kit an embroidery ring (15-20cm) - or in extreme necessity buy one (they're very cheap). Stretch and clamp a layer of nylon from tights/pantyhose (something about 60 denier will do), clamp in place and trim to size. Total cost - as little as zero (except for the wrath of the person who now has ventilated tights and a missing embroidery ring. Oops! 😁

  • @doctorshawzy6477
    @doctorshawzy6477 Рік тому +1

    bad luck

  • @finlayfraser9952
    @finlayfraser9952 Місяць тому

    The internal photos are not from the ST18, you are being very lazy, and corrupting the historical record.

    • @talesfromthehutandhangar
      @talesfromthehutandhangar  Місяць тому

      @finlayfraser9952 Are they not? I was led to believe they are. You are bloody rude calling me lazy. The work that goes into making these videos is a lot. I do this for nothing. l am trying to remember these aircraft and do the best l can & work hard on them. I have uploaded many videos on old aircraft. Are you just a coward keyboard warrior? I see you do not have a channel. So I will be rude. if you don't like it eff off to Twitter/X and join in the bile !