The Bronze Age Collapse - Before the Storm - Extra History - Part 1

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  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  7 років тому +1716

    The four Bronze Age civilizations lived together in (relative) harmony... until the Sea People attacked.
    Support us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/ExtraCredits

    • @firetarrasque4667
      @firetarrasque4667 7 років тому +21

      DO THE SPANISH INQUISITION. YOU PROMISED US IT IN THE THIRD SERIES.

    • @SandyEA
      @SandyEA 7 років тому +12

      Or maybe the sea people were one of the four civilizations.

    • @rd-6137
      @rd-6137 7 років тому +15

      And who are the Sea People?
      I'm genuinely curious about this topic because pretty much nobody knows. It makes you wonder, you know?
      also inb4 somebody says "it's Walpole, of course."

    • @slendy9600
      @slendy9600 7 років тому +5

      Sandy Addison or maybe it was Walpole Kappa

    • @adamdailey6675
      @adamdailey6675 7 років тому +2

      Extra Credits
      nothing like that good kush

  • @AntiBunnyStudio
    @AntiBunnyStudio 7 років тому +3429

    You know this had me wondering. Why not brass? It's as strong as bronze, and is made with the much more common element zinc. As someone who enjoys learning about metallurgy I had to look it up. Apparently the ancients were well aware of zinc, but it was a huge hassle to refine from ore. The problem being that just smelting it with charcoal, zinc boils and evaporates at a lower temperature than it would reduce from zinc oxide. Brass had to be produced in small amounts in a crucible by allowing copper to absorb zinc vapor. As such brass was really only used for decoration, as it was too much work for bronze age technology to produce in useful quantities. Refining pure zinc didn't become possible until the 18th century. So there's why we didn't have a brass age.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 7 років тому +589

      It's people like you who make the comments section worthwhile.

    • @jamshans1269
      @jamshans1269 7 років тому +12

      AntiBunny Studio I

    • @chaosherald8879
      @chaosherald8879 7 років тому +90

      You, dear sir, have earned my respect. Well put!

    • @anon2034
      @anon2034 7 років тому +14

      Thank you!

    • @johannasperski9838
      @johannasperski9838 7 років тому +135

      The melting point for zinc is about 300 degrees F higher than tin. That could be why...

  • @DragoniteSpam
    @DragoniteSpam 7 років тому +1968

    In case anybody's been living under a rock, this is the series that almost all of the EH following has been waiting for since it was introduced to the schedule a half a year ago.
    * bows down at the feet of whoever suggested the topic in the first place

    • @nader50752
      @nader50752 7 років тому +17

      Ikr, also, mfw I could have watched this yesterday but was too lazy to do so.

    • @booketoiles1600
      @booketoiles1600 7 років тому +19

      @DragoniteSpam
      I was living under a rock (nous a patreon donor) but I still hoped for it, the bronze age collapse is so mind-blowing as an event.

    • @xbuttxz4136
      @xbuttxz4136 7 років тому +21

      bookman B. I feel that the Bronze Age collapse isn't as well studied as the fall of the Roman Empire.

    • @DaBTEDI
      @DaBTEDI 7 років тому +4

      how could this happen????????

    • @Zerpderp0
      @Zerpderp0 7 років тому +33

      Xbuttx Z Rome's collapse is studied extensively due to a few factors.
      1) we know what happened. Barring a few mysteries, we generally know when, how and why Rome collapsed (Western Rome that is) thanks to scholars in the eastern empire, and monks and rulers (Like Charlemagne) in the west who would promote literature and keep records of past events.
      2) Rome's collapse had a direct impact on European history, which in turn had a Major impact on modern day world history. Of course one would study that which pertains to us most of all.
      3) Rome was bigger and more impactful on history, since Rome was THE empire to emulate. With codes of laws, Republicans, modern military structure, political beuracracy, and massive public works like Roads and Aquaducts.

  • @GiffyMcgee
    @GiffyMcgee 7 років тому +4250

    *Now the Phoenicians can get down to business!*

    • @8ballentertainment.885
      @8ballentertainment.885 7 років тому +62

      Omg yas!!

    • @rateater420
      @rateater420 7 років тому +42

      Giffy_Mcgee you beat me to it :(

    • @cattycatyeah
      @cattycatyeah 7 років тому +247

      business:
      doing trade
      being cool
      inventing the alphabet i guess

    • @thereferenceguy5532
      @thereferenceguy5532 7 років тому +221

      Why is my metal all lame and lumpy? Tired of using sad, lumpy metal? Well, now you can use *BRONZE*

    • @Ravenforce3
      @Ravenforce3 7 років тому +66

      Other Phoenician business:
      Setting up a colony in the Western Mediterranean to be named Carthage
      Fuck with Rome for a few hundred years
      EH comes full circle.

  • @ares647
    @ares647 5 років тому +161

    holy crap, finally something on youtube about ancient history that isn't just conspiracy theories, it's frustratingly difficult to find actual facts on anything from before the classical period that isn't just straight up academic (that is, things that aren't just straight up journal articles published by universities)

  • @jessicalee333
    @jessicalee333 6 років тому +1377

    More than just these cultures were affected by a collapse around this same time. This was also the end of the Harappa civilization in Pakistan, China was invaded by barbarians, north and central American building cultures suffered during this period. Something big was going on. It could very well have been climate related, something that made it difficult for non-agricultural people to maintain their livelihoods and compelled them to move in and attack wealthier agricultural civilizations. The Odyssey took place during this time (just after the Trojan war which was just before the collapse), and it's a story of a man making an enemy of Poseidon, and fighting his way through treacherous seas and winds (and weird islands) for twenty years.
    It could very well have been a climatic event, like a volcanic eruption that changed global temperatures and weather patterns for a while (at least in the northern hemisphere). There was at least one in the world somewhere around that time, the Hekla eruption in Iceland, which has been considered as a candidate for a cause or contributing factor to this collapse.
    Personally, what I find most interesting about this whole period is how much Greece changed, from the Achaean/Mycenaean civilization to the "Classical" Greek civilization after the intervening "Greek Dark Ages". Their art style completely changed, especially the depiction of people which were originally a bit cartoonish in a Sumerian/Babylonian way, their writing changed from the Linear B Minoan system of writing to their version of the Phoenician alphabet. They just became such a fundamentally different people... while still maintaining some language and cultural elements from the past. There's a major hypothesis about the later Greeks being northern invaders who then settled among the previous Greeks, something that also happened to some of the other places (the Harappa civilization was displaced by the arrival of the Vedic peoples, for example).
    It makes me wonder who they were before. As far as I know the only surviving stories of their culture are the Iliad and the Odyssey, both written centuries later, in the Archaic period and most of the other parts of it were lost. Even from the Archaic period, only some of Homer's works and a few of Sappho's poems survived - considered the father and mother of literature (to the Greeks, and later to the Romans).

    • @jacksonpaul645
      @jacksonpaul645 5 років тому +76

      Harappa or Mohenjodaro or Indus Valley had an atomic war...

    • @lucifermorningstar181
      @lucifermorningstar181 5 років тому +22

      Interesting theories

    • @bartomiejzakrzewski7220
      @bartomiejzakrzewski7220 5 років тому +49

      I edmire your knowledge I agree with you,

    • @lalonly123
      @lalonly123 5 років тому +53

      As a history and mythology geek I totally get and support your theory in the end of mohenjo daro and stuff like that had a very violent end and yeah

    • @jujharsingh5461
      @jujharsingh5461 5 років тому +18

      Indus valley civilization is indian

  • @nicholasrowe6322
    @nicholasrowe6322 7 років тому +437

    5:53 - It would appear that you folks have made an error in your placement of the Assyrian Empire, putting it WAAAAY east of its position along the northern Tigris and Euphrates rivers. It's a minor error, I know, but I'm aware that you all want to be kept updated on any mistakes made.

    • @OMs-cu4tz
      @OMs-cu4tz 7 років тому +41

      Yes you are correct , I was wondering why no body saw it ?they must fix it , they basiclly put the Assyrians in Persia lol

    • @wu1ming9shi
      @wu1ming9shi 7 років тому +30

      i was already wondering myself why that looked a bit odd. Now i know why. They lade it look like nobody ruled anything in the middle.

    • @DaRealKakarroto
      @DaRealKakarroto 7 років тому +30

      Also, it isn't true that Egypt was destroyed. At least not completely. 'Bombed back into the Stone Age' maybe, but not fully destroyed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse
      It's something that bothers me a little bit, but I guess this is also one point that will be clarified in their "Lies" episode and it is due to time issues. Well, we will see.

    • @Healermain15
      @Healermain15 7 років тому +56

      It's actually quite a relevant mistake.
      Right now it looks like the Assyrians were some faroff nation who occasionally organized long journeys westward, through the barren wastelands of mesopotamia. Instead of being basically their next-door inland neighbour.

    • @nicholasrowe6322
      @nicholasrowe6322 7 років тому +24

      Actually they'd been in Mesopotamia for centuries by then, and Mesopotamia was and is far from barren.

  • @knightshade2654
    @knightshade2654 7 років тому +1330

    Egyptians. Hittites. Assyrians. Myceneans. Long ago, these four Bronze Age civilizations lived together in a healthy system of trade, agriculture, and sometimes warfare. But then, everything changed when the Sea People attacked.

    • @HxH2011DRA
      @HxH2011DRA 7 років тому +21

      American Ronin LOL

    • @scienceolympiad732
      @scienceolympiad732 7 років тому +12

      American Ronin +

    • @nathanjenkins5785
      @nathanjenkins5785 7 років тому +157

      Only Walpole, master of all four nations, could stop them. But when the world needed him most, he vanished.

    • @andrespolo2722
      @andrespolo2722 7 років тому +5

      Why no one remeber the Troyans?

    • @garbageday587
      @garbageday587 7 років тому +37

      The sea people's could be Atlantis

  • @logoncal3001
    @logoncal3001 7 років тому +496

    All i can think about the Assyrians is how they appear in the fight with the most overpowered tool in the late bronze age.
    Iron.

    • @matheusmelo6022
      @matheusmelo6022 7 років тому +63

      Logoncal Exactly. That's why they beat all the people around them so fast and managed to hold the largest stretching empire of their time frame. Oh, and they also had great tactics and were rich, thanks to trading with other wealthy people.

    • @laythhanna2893
      @laythhanna2893 6 років тому +13

      I’m Assyrian :)))))

    • @Gothic7876
      @Gothic7876 6 років тому +58

      And not for the reasons a lot of people think.
      Late Bronze Weapons were actually better than Early Iron Weapons, due to the thousands of years of smithing behind it. But what gave Iron it’s advantage was it’s abundance. Because it’s was so common, and it wasn’t an alloy, the Assyrians could field massive armies for the time.

    • @raviothethief8292
      @raviothethief8292 6 років тому +2

      Logoncal they are the level 20 in a sea of 5s and 10s

    • @tundra5171
      @tundra5171 5 років тому +6

      Sorry, but weren't bronze weapons better than iron initially? Far as I recall, iron even breaks quicker than bronze.

  • @knight3822
    @knight3822 3 роки тому +63

    As a french history teacher I found this very instructive as we barely never talk about what was before Archaïc greece. Thanks!

  • @dartwada
    @dartwada 7 років тому +591

    Fun fact: the name of copper and it's chemical symbol both come from Cyprus. In ancient times, copper was called Cyprium, which was bastardized by the Romans to Cuprum, (which is why copper is CU), which eventually became Copper

    • @Bloodlyshiva
      @Bloodlyshiva 5 років тому +35

      Cuppa.
      Kuppa?
      Koopa?

    • @valeriosaccoccio9709
      @valeriosaccoccio9709 4 роки тому +22

      Well kyprium was already kuprium because greeks used to pronounce y as u

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 4 роки тому +6

      @@Bloodlyshiva Kappa.

    • @rapanuikapu904
      @rapanuikapu904 3 роки тому +2

      Fun fact: 2 + 2 = 4

    • @alivehuman_10
      @alivehuman_10 3 роки тому +1

      Is this a “FUN FACT” ??? 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @ArrestedZeus
    @ArrestedZeus 7 років тому +453

    I don't really comment on UA-cam all that often, but I just wanted to thank you guys for all of the extra history videos

    • @tou7331
      @tou7331 7 років тому +10

      ArrestedZeus well ya got alot of likes

  • @kagetasan
    @kagetasan 7 років тому +134

    I'm so happy this is covered. ive been interested in this since I studied Crete and was fascinated by the near total depopulation of the coastal regions and the near fortified cities in the mountains, also I really hope you mention how the Greeks literally forget how to read for about 4 centuries. that still boggles me.

    • @DarkProtoss123
      @DarkProtoss123 7 років тому +22

      Literacy was very low back then. If all the people die who know how to read and write, because it's such an extreme minority, well...

    • @revenger210
      @revenger210 7 років тому +21

      From what we know, the Minoans and the Mycenaens were different people with different governments. The Minoans faced an apocalyptic destruction when the local volcano of Santorini errupted, and destroyed everything in its wake, weakening the Minoans enough to allow the Mycenaens tocome out on top and conquer them. Santorini, also, used to be a completely round island until the volcano erruption transformed it into the shape it is today)

  • @RamdomView
    @RamdomView 4 роки тому +1684

    So you mean to say that we live in a post-apocalyptic world, and that the cause and details of the disaster are conveniently unknown?
    I will now no longer criticize authors that lazily evade the nature of their apocalypse.

    • @htoodoh5770
      @htoodoh5770 4 роки тому +21

      LOL

    • @anaussie213
      @anaussie213 4 роки тому +137

      Remember this is the Bronze Age collapse, we still have another dark age after the western Roman Empire went down. Two apocalypses.

    • @RamdomView
      @RamdomView 4 роки тому +245

      @@anaussie213 The collapse of Western Rome doesn't compare. Italy was still urbanized and still had literacy - the Germanic invaders did want to reap the benefits of settled civilization. Eastern Rome and Mesopotamia were fine. India and China were also fine.

    • @dingusdangus1790
      @dingusdangus1790 4 роки тому +33

      @@anaussie213
      The only thing that happened with rome is that names on a map changed. The actual experience of most individuals in europe improved after the collapse.

    • @caiawlodarski5339
      @caiawlodarski5339 4 роки тому +73

      @@dingusdangus1790 That is false

  • @pinodevideos
    @pinodevideos 7 років тому +745

    Its tin from the tin lands
    (My seller wont tell me where)

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob 5 років тому +34

      the term is actually "dealer" ;-)

    • @texasRoofDoctor
      @texasRoofDoctor 5 років тому +15

      Hint: you have to go past the Pillars of Hercules.

    • @kingslushie1018
      @kingslushie1018 5 років тому +2

      Can someone tell me wha this is a reference to? The more details the better

    • @milleniumrdc8414
      @milleniumrdc8414 5 років тому +13

      This is a reference to the history of the entire world (i guess)

    • @IdRatherNotHaveAHandleThankYou
      @IdRatherNotHaveAHandleThankYou 5 років тому +5

      @@kingslushie1018 Bill Wurtz's 'the entire history of the world (i guess)'

  • @renoloverxoxo
    @renoloverxoxo 5 років тому +546

    People who think Egypt is a lifeless desert are in denial of de Nile...
    I'll see myself out.

  • @fatedate
    @fatedate 7 років тому +147

    I really love the drawn "horses", it makes me giggle every time because they look more like lamma/alpacca than horses...Imagine ancient egypts, preparing their chariots with lammas

    • @OnThePath777
      @OnThePath777 4 роки тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @JohanKylander
      @JohanKylander 4 роки тому +1

      I can i
      magine horses looked quite different then.

    • @imakebadvideos
      @imakebadvideos 3 роки тому +1

      Lol, now I wanna see a llama chariot race now

    • @jamier65551
      @jamier65551 3 роки тому

      Llama, not lamma

    • @AEWYU
      @AEWYU 3 роки тому

      that would be physically impossible! llamas only lived in the americas

  • @refreshdaemon
    @refreshdaemon 7 років тому +504

    I suddenly, but quite explicably want to go back and play the original Age of Empires again...

    • @NecroGangster
      @NecroGangster 7 років тому +26

      The announcement of Age of Empires Definitive Edition last week may also be a factor for that urge :P

    • @ViolosD2I
      @ViolosD2I 7 років тому +2

      Titan Quest. :)

    • @ShukakuTheCrazy1
      @ShukakuTheCrazy1 7 років тому +1

      I actually found it at target in a bargain bin recently. Totally bought it

    • @JimCullen
      @JimCullen 7 років тому +15

      I know this _isn't_ one of their sponsored series, but wow this would have been perfect fodder for sponsorship considering it's coming right on the heels of Age of Empires 1's 20th anniversary. I am *so* excited for the Definitive Edition to come out! (Or hopefully get into the beta before then…)

    • @shoukatsukai
      @shoukatsukai 7 років тому +2

      The 50 population limit and the lack of formation commands

  • @gnochhuos645
    @gnochhuos645 7 років тому +1590

    Probably the 50 population limit

    • @Sara-bx8vi
      @Sara-bx8vi 6 років тому +14

      Bad

    • @adamvasquez9926
      @adamvasquez9926 6 років тому +11

      So bad

    • @kaiyuzuki3418
      @kaiyuzuki3418 6 років тому +29

      AH THE THROWBACKS

    • @kaiyuzuki3418
      @kaiyuzuki3418 6 років тому +51

      or they had to sacrifice the workers in order to get the new tech

    • @Amadeus8484
      @Amadeus8484 6 років тому +59

      Its true. The Iron Age people had a 200 population limit, but the Bronze age were stuck at 50.

  • @virusguy5611
    @virusguy5611 7 років тому +4

    This was probably one of the most interesting podcasts/animated series that I never thought I needed to hear. Bravo!

  • @andrewflage910
    @andrewflage910 4 роки тому +66

    0:18 Ah yes, the famous and mysterious history of the Bronce Age

  • @bucsa4
    @bucsa4 7 років тому +12

    YES!!!!!!!!!
    Finally, a UA-cam video on the Bronze Age Collapse that isn't a documentary from the 90's or a lecture from a history professor.
    I love this. Thank you for doing a series on this turning point in Human history.

  • @kiffthewriter
    @kiffthewriter 7 років тому +344

    Four civilizations lived in peace, until the Fire Nation attacked.

    • @darkmannight1
      @darkmannight1 7 років тому +34

      Iron Studios Egyptians are obviously Earth benders.

    • @andresarancio6696
      @andresarancio6696 7 років тому +38

      Beta greeks were Water Benders

    • @kalvincastro9042
      @kalvincastro9042 6 років тому

      Hittites and Egyptians rival Earth Benders. Hittites got tin, Egypt got limestone.

    • @Requeim4Hope
      @Requeim4Hope 5 років тому

      @@kalvincastro9042 and Mesopotamians were Air Benders

  • @amarjitsaggu7869
    @amarjitsaggu7869 7 років тому +294

    This is sort of like a big game of Civilization. When you introduced the players, it felt like a leader description. Is it just me?

    • @andresarancio6696
      @andresarancio6696 7 років тому +61

      With the whole "advantages and political situation" I was waiting for the screen to say "choose your civilization"

    • @mistformsquirrel
      @mistformsquirrel 7 років тому +7

      Not just you, I felt it too hah.

    • @blacksalena0
      @blacksalena0 7 років тому +29

      Can you build a civilization that will stand the test of time?

    • @Febz
      @Febz 7 років тому +8

      The old board game Civilization was based on showing the development of these empires. The computer game it inspired decided to go more free-form.

    • @randomnumbers84269
      @randomnumbers84269 7 років тому +2

      Got some Age of Empires vibes myself :)

  • @isaiahsimmons5776
    @isaiahsimmons5776 5 років тому +58

    There you are, playing warships in your simulator, and all of the sudden, you're a Sea People.

    • @foodeater1236
      @foodeater1236 3 роки тому

      We'll all be Sea People in the coming years...

  • @suyash5608
    @suyash5608 4 роки тому +56

    Indus Valley: "Notice me. I fell too!"

    • @AEWYU
      @AEWYU 3 роки тому +1

      river valley*

  • @engqingyong
    @engqingyong 7 років тому +605

    Nah tin comes from the faraway lands of Tinland(?)

    • @McMuster
      @McMuster 7 років тому +195

      I dont know, my dealer wont tell me where he gets it

    • @theoschmidt54
      @theoschmidt54 7 років тому +29

      Shaun Eng My dealer won't tell me where he gets it from

    • @Healermain15
      @Healermain15 7 років тому +20

      My dealer gets his stash from the faroff merchant state of Tinesia.

    • @firefox7801
      @firefox7801 7 років тому +11

      Shaun Eng
      call it england the tin land

    • @MUJAHID56787
      @MUJAHID56787 7 років тому +1

      nah from the mountains of afghan which the assyrians got it from

  • @Craul08
    @Craul08 7 років тому +1408

    None of the players noticed their empires were unhappy, so a load of barbarians spawned and burned down all the civilizations.
    Mystery solved.

    • @viech7595
      @viech7595 6 років тому +61

      Your city needs more food

    • @SapioiT
      @SapioiT 6 років тому +7

      Unfortunately, the "sea people" were islamists, and a simple youtube search of "dark ages collapse islam" should provide enough information about that. By the way, the golden ages of islam came just a bit after the bronze age collapse turned into the dark ages for most of the civilized world.

    • @claudiu-mihaipuiu1221
      @claudiu-mihaipuiu1221 6 років тому +226

      Sapioit
      You're joking, right? The islamic religion didn't even exist, hell Christianity did not even exist at this time, how the hell would they have been the cause of the collapse pray tell?

    • @bubermarcus8607
      @bubermarcus8607 6 років тому +157

      I think you're confusing the Dark Ages with the Bronze Age Collapse.
      The Bronze Age Collapse happened in 1150 B.C/B.C.E before even Christianity existed, the Dark Ages happened after the Fall Of Rome in 5th century A.D and Islam only began 200 years after that. You should do more research.

    • @enchantressdeath1289
      @enchantressdeath1289 6 років тому +80

      Yeah... that doesn't make any sense
      First off, Islam wouldn't appear in a couple thousand years
      Second off, for the most part the conquering Muslims tended to respect and protect the cultures and knowledge in the lands they conquered, preserving pre-Muslim Egypt's libraries, painstakingly preserving the Greek and Roman classics, and learning from the Hindu texts

  • @ArmirMitrandir
    @ArmirMitrandir 7 років тому +8

    Dear Extra Credits team
    I see your transition from games to history, and I must say that I really like your content. You already have told almost all the things that can be said about gamedev, and it is okay. Sometimes the video about gaming appears, and this is cool.
    I love how you talk about history. When I watch them I feel as a part of this ever changing world...
    Keep up a good work!

  • @lancemcelrone6118
    @lancemcelrone6118 6 років тому +10

    Oh gosh, when you learn more about history on a UA-cam channel in minimal time versus School. I'm grateful for this series!!

  • @JakeBroe
    @JakeBroe 5 років тому +7

    Fantastic series! I wish we knew and had more from these great civilizations!

  • @dietcoke0703
    @dietcoke0703 7 років тому +187

    How to sum it up:
    Well there's the Bronze age colapse....
    *NOW THE PHOENICIANS CAN GET DOWN TO BUSINESS!*
    •doing Trade
    •Being cool
    •Inventing The Alphabet i guess

    • @herman1francis
      @herman1francis 6 років тому +1

      They didn't really invent the alphabet. They took it from the canaanean alphabet which took it from cuneiform scripts. History is usually complicated

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob 5 років тому +1

      if anyone didn't catch the reference... watch?v=xuCn8ux2gbs&t=362 :-B

    • @Liv-sz8rv
      @Liv-sz8rv 4 роки тому

      Was scrolling for a Bill Wurtz reference

  • @killerOfMoons
    @killerOfMoons 7 років тому +291

    I'm betting money on that it was cause by Walpole.

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan 7 років тому +36

      No one is going to bet against you. It's ALWAYS walpole.

    • @OriginalPiMan
      @OriginalPiMan 7 років тому +20

      Aegix Drakan
      Walpole isn't responsible for everything, he just has a hand in everything.

    • @rayanhey2411
      @rayanhey2411 7 років тому +1

      Sealand Ball in lies

    • @Healermain15
      @Healermain15 7 років тому +5

      Of course, he wasn't known as Walpole yet. That's just one of his many incarnations/identities.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 7 років тому +1

      nope, it was the Go'auld

  • @vanessathomas6486
    @vanessathomas6486 6 років тому +1

    I am hooked on your Series. I had saw them for months, but didn't think much to look. One day I saw a series you had that might interest me. I watched all 4 parts and got HOOKED! Keep making them!

  • @wendychavez5348
    @wendychavez5348 5 років тому

    For some reason I have a plethora of videos on the Bronze Age Collapse in my feed lately. This is one of the most understandable of them, and I appreciate that it's broken up into manageable chunks (as you are prone to do).

  • @davidjung3145
    @davidjung3145 7 років тому +57

    I love the sphinx with the classic EH face--- I'd like to see a Mona Lisa with the same derpy expression XD

    • @CasperKersten
      @CasperKersten 7 років тому +1

      You mean like what Mr. Bean did with it?

    • @garbageday587
      @garbageday587 7 років тому

      Lol

    • @mohanafy9264
      @mohanafy9264 7 років тому

      david Jung I 'd loved him more if the prick Napoleon didn't break his nose by shooting canons polts at him for whatever reason

  • @Jader7777
    @Jader7777 7 років тому +19

    I love how scarce the information about the Brozen Age is, it makes things mysterious and interesting.

    • @Messy6610
      @Messy6610 4 роки тому +2

      Jared Prymont that mystery and human difference has always made history my favourite subject.

  • @OliveOilFan
    @OliveOilFan 7 років тому +555

    EC> history channel

    • @andreujuanc
      @andreujuanc 7 років тому +45

      Just waiting for "The alien collapse - |: Anti-gravity - Extra Credits" xD

    • @legionxiii8055
      @legionxiii8055 7 років тому +50

      Sexy Tomato Just wait for James to prove that Ancient Aliens were actually subservient to Walpole. It was Walpole.

    • @Treviisolion
      @Treviisolion 7 років тому +17

      This is like comparing an old stubborn donkey to a next-gen racecar in a race.

    • @DuckSwagington
      @DuckSwagington 7 років тому +10

      Anything better than the History Channel

    • @hemidas
      @hemidas 7 років тому +3

      Ever heard of Viasat History? Unlike History Channel this one actually stay true to the title.

  • @thirdgen377
    @thirdgen377 5 років тому +1

    Been watching and listening to your channel for about a year now. Love the channel. Love the story-telling narration. You guys are one of very very very few other channels I'm willing to watch ads for.

  • @joebaumgart1146
    @joebaumgart1146 Рік тому +37

    It all collapsed because of Ea Nasir's inferior copper ingots.

  • @AnonYmous-db2yy
    @AnonYmous-db2yy 7 років тому +43

    7:07
    Mycenaeans: The Ancap's Nightmare.

    • @who167
      @who167 7 років тому +2

      I mean, as long as they are not public...

  • @Coolcleverstone
    @Coolcleverstone 7 років тому +34

    Every time they make a dark Souls reference or something like that, I want them to do a lore video.

  • @SeriusSim
    @SeriusSim 7 років тому +6

    Very interesting topic, thanks EC team. For anyone looking for more info about it the Eric Cline's "1177 BC" talk is a great and accessible summary of the likely causes of the Bronze Age collapse.

  • @SephirothRyu
    @SephirothRyu 6 років тому +4

    I gotta say, those first 15 seconds are among the best introductions ever to a historical piece. Have you guys ever considered writing actual history textbooks? The style in which you make these episodes would actually make them some of the least dry, easiest-to-learn-from history textbooks ever.
    Frankly, if I were ever stuck with being a History teacher, I'd assign the watching of some of these series as homework.

  • @stutid582
    @stutid582 5 років тому +77

    The Mycenaeans conquered the Minoans of Crete, the Minoans were another great Bronze- Age civilisation, which you did not mention.

    • @jacksonpaul645
      @jacksonpaul645 5 років тому +3

      and the Romans annihilated the Carthaginians...

    • @jacksonpaul645
      @jacksonpaul645 5 років тому +1

      and, i think Egypt repelled the Phoenicians and crippled them badly

    • @stutid582
      @stutid582 5 років тому

      Jackson Paul oh really? I did not know about that... Very interesting

    • @stutid582
      @stutid582 5 років тому

      Jackson Paul oh really? I did not know about that... Very interesting

    • @hebanker3372
      @hebanker3372 5 років тому +12

      Yeah but the Minoic period was long gone when the Bronze Age came to an end.There is no point in mentioning them.

  • @Balsiefen
    @Balsiefen 7 років тому +91

    Walpole: Can I interest you in stock for the Sea Peoples Trading Company?

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 7 років тому +37

      Hmm . . .very tempting.

    • @robrules9807
      @robrules9807 7 років тому +5

      Mister Walpole, have you ever considered investing into the Shang Dynasty?

    • @blitzwaffe
      @blitzwaffe 7 років тому +7

      Would you like to make a trade agreement with England?

    • @davehoffman4659
      @davehoffman4659 5 років тому

      South Sea People Company

  • @paultreitel2661
    @paultreitel2661 7 років тому +9

    Best. Topic. Ever.

  • @Crocogator
    @Crocogator 7 років тому +71

    *sighs*
    Fine.
    *opens civ 5*

  • @RobloxLoverz1
    @RobloxLoverz1 Рік тому +3

    I have watched this at school today and I want to watch it again!

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  Рік тому +1

      SO glad you had a great time watching it!

  • @dylanthehopelessrema
    @dylanthehopelessrema 6 років тому +1

    By far my favorite Extra series

  • @Bryce-yw8hf
    @Bryce-yw8hf 7 років тому +34

    Well technically Egypt and the Assyrians managed to fight off the sea people but then Ramses died and Egypt collapsed with no one being able to rule.

    • @garbageday587
      @garbageday587 7 років тому +1

      The sea peoples were from Atlantis

    • @raviothethief8292
      @raviothethief8292 6 років тому

      Bryce 0905 well when you have the Red Sea come crashing down on you that might weaken you a bit but don't worry he will get back up... Any minute now..

  • @imperatorpalpatine1351
    @imperatorpalpatine1351 7 років тому +55

    I blame the Jedi for this.

    • @upmostanimal8265
      @upmostanimal8265 6 років тому

      What did the clone trooper say to the youngling? Good soldiers fallow orders.

  • @jasonschneijder2012
    @jasonschneijder2012 7 років тому +146

    Hey there EC, I love your history vids, but I wanna correct one little thing:
    The Myceneans and the Minoans were two different civilizations, you presented them as one greek culture in your video which is not unexpected since for most of history greece had only one mayor culture, and the myceneans and minoans are alike.
    But here is the difference: Myceneans lived mainly on the mainland of Greece and western Anatolia, one of the largest Mycenean cities is Mycene, Mycenean cities were often fortified and their art and hierarchy suggests that it was a warrior culture, meaning the Mycenean upper class was a warrior class and they often had conflicts and fights.
    The Minoans lived mainly in Crete and the surrounding Islands, one of their biggest palaces was at Knossos, they were a culture of seafarers and merchants, their art focuses on sea trade, the bull, and fishing, and their kings seemed not particularly aggressive or capable warriors.
    The reason I know this is because I wrote my final report on this last year.
    Hope this was useful!

    • @joluoto
      @joluoto 7 років тому +7

      The Minoan civilization fell shortly before the collapse though.

    • @paraskevas_patsis
      @paraskevas_patsis 7 років тому +20

      The Minoan collapse happened around 1,400 BC (possibly due to a volcanic eruption of Thera or even Mycenaean invasions or possibly some of the same reasons that triggered the Bronze Age collapse) so by the time of this video (1,200 BC) the Minoans had collapsed and the isles of the Aegean were controlled to a grater or lesser extent by the Mycenaeans.

    • @joluoto
      @joluoto 7 років тому +5

      The dating for Thera doesn't add up well with the dating for Minoan collapse, so that theory is now being rejected.

    • @alfredosboz2133
      @alfredosboz2133 7 років тому +1

      Jason Schneijder mycenians were influenced by minoans

    • @MoviMakr
      @MoviMakr 6 років тому +5

      There is some credence to suggest that the collapse of the great seafaring Minoans left a power vacuum/unprotected sea for the "Sea Peoples" to take advantage of whether they were foreign marauders or bands of unemployed soldiers who lost their jobs after the Treaty of Qadesh.
      To add to the matter, he didn't mention that this is the third time Egypt had had to pick up the pieces in their history. They had now been in the New Kingdom phase after kicking out the Hyksos, who brought advanced bronze working tech, horses, and chariots. Monumental projects were far less grandiose than those of the Old Kingdom, but their empire game was top notch.

  • @choirboyzcutleryoutdoors
    @choirboyzcutleryoutdoors 4 роки тому

    Love your channel!! Subbed and Binge watching!!

  • @karanacharya7689
    @karanacharya7689 4 роки тому +1

    This is my favourite Extra history series.

  • @sofia7587
    @sofia7587 7 років тому +29

    This would be a great setting for a total war game

  • @vincents.6310
    @vincents.6310 7 років тому +80

    Spoiler alert:
    It was Walpole

    • @rayanhey2411
      @rayanhey2411 7 років тому +9

      Vincent S. it's always walpole

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 7 років тому +12

      When is it never not me? ;)

    • @liamwhite3522
      @liamwhite3522 7 років тому +1

      I haven't not seen when it isn't not Walpole.

    • @rayanhey2411
      @rayanhey2411 7 років тому +3

      Liam White even the punic wars he was in it

  • @alexanderjonathan5170
    @alexanderjonathan5170 7 років тому +54

    kingdom of dank kush

  • @jackgreen4789
    @jackgreen4789 5 років тому

    This may be the best set of videos on UA-cam

  • @iAreDuffie
    @iAreDuffie 3 роки тому

    Thank you Dan Shive for sending me to Extra Credits! I love these guys! 💕

  • @andrewmcgraw4811
    @andrewmcgraw4811 7 років тому +26

    Total War: Bronze Age/Trojan War. Come on, Sega! You owe us after Rome 2!

  • @anttibjorklund1869
    @anttibjorklund1869 7 років тому +169

    No mention of the mysterious Sea People?

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  7 років тому +168

      Oh they'll be here! We're just seeding the antici...

    • @ATLevi-qw2su
      @ATLevi-qw2su 7 років тому +87

      ...pation

    • @Tia-Marie
      @Tia-Marie 7 років тому +9

      Antti Björklund Not The Sea People!! That bane of 1177BCE :P

    • @redeemaugustine5945
      @redeemaugustine5945 7 років тому +19

      The Sea People were actually Underwater Archaeologists... (seeing if anyone gets my reference)

    • @fristi61
      @fristi61 7 років тому +7

      As for those who reached my frontier, their seed is not, their heart and their soul are finished forever and ever. As for those who came forward together on the seas, the full flame was in front of them at the Nile
      mouths, while a stockade of lances surrounded them on the shore, prostrated on the beach, slain, and made into heaps from head to tail.

  • @cankerousnigov7262
    @cankerousnigov7262 7 років тому +83

    long ago the four nations lived together in harmony but this all changed when the Assyrians attacked...

    • @SapioiT
      @SapioiT 6 років тому +2

      *islamists. UA-cam "islam caused dark ages". A more concrete example would be the video "What really caused the Dark Age? : A 1400 Year Secret (Dr Bill Warner)"

    • @SapioiT
      @SapioiT 6 років тому +1

      *islamists. UA-cam "islam caused dark ages". A more concrete example would be the video "What really caused the Dark Age? : A 1400 Year Secret (Dr Bill Warner)"

    • @thedoruk6324
      @thedoruk6324 6 років тому +11

      +Sapioit Dude islam didnt even close to being existed in thousands of years ago; neither judaism nor christianity

    • @misterzee1581
      @misterzee1581 6 років тому +4

      The timeline chronology has been changed... Islam and Christianity caused the Dark Age... 'Ancient Egypt' fell in the 1200 AD. and is currently occupied by Muslims... Muslims took Eastern Rome as well and the Christians took Western Rome and Europe...

    • @primodernious
      @primodernious 6 років тому +3

      as far as i know, it was the egyptians that attacked the assyrians and not the other way around.

  • @WithASideOfFries
    @WithASideOfFries 11 місяців тому

    I really like your approach. The pacing, the art, the tone, and the content are superb.

  • @RWBHere
    @RWBHere 5 років тому +12

    0:20 Bronce Age? Never heard of that one.

  • @ElBandito
    @ElBandito 7 років тому +43

    Sea people did it before Vikings made it look cool.

  • @Killachow23
    @Killachow23 7 років тому +15

    The Dark Souls reference in the beginning made me giddy. Dark Souls and history together, I couldn't be happier.

    • @eyyy2271
      @eyyy2271 3 роки тому

      Praise the sun

  • @hazardoushumanoid6804
    @hazardoushumanoid6804 7 років тому +4

    this video series always makes me want to play some civilization

  • @Anglomachian
    @Anglomachian 7 років тому

    This is my absolute favourite of your history series. The Bronze Age collapse is something most people have never even heard of, and I can't think why. I was only ever taught that ancient Egypt at one point encountered an invading force called the Sea Peoples, but never explained why they were there, or what was going on around at the time. I had to learn about it basically by myself when I read a series of fiction books that mentioned the Sea Peoples, and I incidentally discovered the collapse whilst looking them up.
    I don;t quite agree with your conclusion that the Sea People were a result of the other problems that contributed to the collapse.To make a longer, paper-worthy topic of an explanation short, I conclude based on the limited data that whoever the Sea Peoples were, they didn't exist within the trade economy of the bronze age civilisations.
    Yes, they could have, and the economic issues amongst other issues might have been what led them to raid other lands, but if this were so, then they might have suffered from the trade disruption, which would have meant that they were part of it to some capacity. If this were so, then why don't any of the surviving evidence tell us who they are? One doesn't usually trade with someone if they don't know who they are. Usually.
    I'm not saying you guys are wrong. Definitely not. But this collapse took place over a fairly long period of time (in terms of human life spans) so their appearance could well have been coincidence.
    But if it were opportunistic, then they would have to be familiar with the lands they assaulted well enough to recognise the internal struggles.
    I don't know, does anyone have ideas on this?
    Also Egypt had a great deal of salt, another major economic boon in the ancient world.

  • @RiftZM
    @RiftZM 7 років тому +1

    Love the art work, as well as the videos. I'm just really liking the art. :D

  • @lagomorphgirl4368
    @lagomorphgirl4368 7 років тому +4

    woooo goddamn ive been so excited for this!!!!!

  • @brackenhansen726
    @brackenhansen726 7 років тому +10

    OOOOOHHHH THis is GOING TO BE GOOODDD

  • @brockmckelvey7327
    @brockmckelvey7327 7 років тому +6

    3:29 Is Thoth there because of Crash Course Mythology? Thoth is the best (He's the one on the right, typically depicted as a ibis or baboon. He's the god of writing).

  • @jaohonaxa
    @jaohonaxa 7 років тому

    I never even knew about these events or this period (not the bronze age itself, just the sudden fall), before this. Man I love this series.

  • @sarthaksharma9129
    @sarthaksharma9129 Рік тому +1

    Learning about these events like WW1 feels like listening to "Everywhere at the end of time". A deeply saddening experience when you know what comes after it

  • @laythhanna2893
    @laythhanna2893 6 років тому +39

    I’m Assyrian and I’m sad that there’s only 3 million of us left in the world :(

  • @vedransustic9137
    @vedransustic9137 7 років тому +5

    The Reaper invasion couldn't be stopped. Bronze Age didn't have Sheperd...

  • @vanderkarl3927
    @vanderkarl3927 7 років тому +13

    7:44
    Sword isn't coiled, no bones in ash.
    CASUL

  • @iacopoguidi7871
    @iacopoguidi7871 4 роки тому

    Thanks UA-cam for recommending this in COVID-19 full swing! Very lifting!

  • @FoamingPipeSnakes
    @FoamingPipeSnakes 6 років тому

    I love that you used the Axis and Allies factory pieces for industry illustration

  • @AnonymousComrade
    @AnonymousComrade 7 років тому +16

    0:21 'Bronce Age'

  • @VVVV___VVVV
    @VVVV___VVVV Рік тому +7

    Thumbnail looking like they put the new forgis on the jeep

  • @LetsTakeWalk
    @LetsTakeWalk 7 років тому +23

    Now the Phoenicians can get down to business.

    • @Tytoalba777
      @Tytoalba777 7 років тому +2

      To defeat the Hittites

    • @thenewcaesar2668
      @thenewcaesar2668 7 років тому +1

      Hwah!

    • @xsithspawnx
      @xsithspawnx 7 років тому +3

      Until that pesky Neo-Assyria comes along and spoils the party for everyone.

  • @monolacan1
    @monolacan1 6 років тому

    I love that you used the ActRaiser theme. I loved that little angel sim-city game.

  • @marabhorring112
    @marabhorring112 5 років тому

    This is a fantastic channel.

  • @AMasondude
    @AMasondude Рік тому +4

    Thank you bronze age memes for bringing me here

  • @Ben-zg5xb
    @Ben-zg5xb 7 років тому +7

    But do you know what I like a lot more than bronze crafted weaponry?
    *K N O W L E D G E*

  • @Queso_19
    @Queso_19 2 роки тому +10

    Top 10 The Bronze Jade

  • @LouvorSemFronteiras688
    @LouvorSemFronteiras688 Рік тому

    Your friends make the 100 day videos so much better

  • @kyleytrimm7277
    @kyleytrimm7277 2 роки тому

    This really brought the chapter in my history book to life, thanks!

  • @whywasmyrealnamehere
    @whywasmyrealnamehere 7 років тому +30

    3:29 Missed opportunity to have Yu-Gi-Oh monsters on there. The same series that claimed the Shadow Games were responsible for the Bronze Age collapse.

  • @markhenley3097
    @markhenley3097 7 років тому +50

    You put the Assyrian Empire way too much to the East, where the Persian Gulf is. In reality, it bordered Egypt and the Hittites.

    • @LionKing-ew9rm
      @LionKing-ew9rm 6 років тому +5

      Prins van Oranje
      Assyria was in northern Iraq, Southern Turkey, not Egypt!

    • @paralusdivinprophetedupara8903
      @paralusdivinprophetedupara8903 5 років тому +6

      Assyria was... in Syria

    • @markhenley3097
      @markhenley3097 4 роки тому +7

      @@LionKing-ew9rm The map in this video shows them in the Persian Gulf, which definitely isn't true.

    • @muksimulmaad7413
      @muksimulmaad7413 4 роки тому

      @@markhenley3097 they were kicked out of syria to the gulf by the other kingdoms they WERE where you were talking about
      edit: yeah he pushed them way too east

    • @l2516
      @l2516 4 роки тому

      G E K O L O N I S E E R D

  • @Lextraordinaire
    @Lextraordinaire 7 років тому +61

    What about the Indus Valley Civilization?!

    • @hassanbassim4007
      @hassanbassim4007 6 років тому +37

      Blue King Gaming this civilization collapse long before this era .

    • @MaureenLycaon
      @MaureenLycaon 6 років тому +2

      It's also nowhere close by.

    • @roha1329
      @roha1329 6 років тому +4

      For now, we assume that nomads from the caucasus doing the job.

    • @Monochromicornicopia
      @Monochromicornicopia 5 років тому +1

      What about it?

    • @bradmiller2329
      @bradmiller2329 5 років тому +3

      Partly due to over-exploitation of the environment. The rest? Eh, welll ... (scratching head)

  • @phoenixrbfa9966
    @phoenixrbfa9966 6 років тому

    hay im just finding you now and i have to say i love your stuff its engaging and verry insiteful i realy enjoy lestening to all of your content so thanks

  • @FacundoEC
    @FacundoEC 7 років тому

    Those notes from Actraiser in the intro got me. Amazing channel!

  • @MidnightMan04
    @MidnightMan04 7 років тому +40

    Wait, so we went from D-day, to bronze age collapse? I'm kinda confused.

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  7 років тому +34

      +Larry coldcut The D-Day series is an extra, sponsored show and it's not finished quite yet! Our last "true" series (as determined by Patreon supporters) was the Articles of Confederation, which we wrapped up last weekend. This is the next patron-chosen series! --Belinda

    • @MidnightMan04
      @MidnightMan04 7 років тому +2

      +Extra Credits ohhh, ok.

  • @PrograError
    @PrograError 7 років тому +34

    so the Myceneans are basically the ancestors of The Ancient Greece? surely their architecture looked similar...

    • @MarcieParcie
      @MarcieParcie 7 років тому +2

      AsHalt I agree, that's what I thought

    • @fristi61
      @fristi61 7 років тому +47

      Well, no. Mycenean civilization collapsed to such an extent that the Greeks even lost knowledge of how to write for centuries.
      Greek culture really had to be rebuilt from the ground up.

    • @jonaw.2153
      @jonaw.2153 7 років тому +11

      AsHalt Ya they were beta Greeks

    • @Poctyk
      @Poctyk 7 років тому +7

      So since Greece thought that those buildings were built by gods, they would obviously want to emulate them. Like European "classical" period of architecture.

    • @MarcieParcie
      @MarcieParcie 7 років тому +1

      Ростислав Несисюк is that a fact?

  • @TheRealCanThought
    @TheRealCanThought 2 роки тому +3

    Maybe the bronze age is the friends we met all along

  • @reivelt3715
    @reivelt3715 6 років тому

    your comment about tin scarcity is in the similar range with uranium really surprise me as i am currently working in a tin mining company, and indeed in some cases, we find tin bearing minerals associated with some rare earth element. Kuddos for reminding me that i need to study more :P

  • @kelvinmelon1668
    @kelvinmelon1668 6 років тому

    who is this narrator his voice sound so calming please do more of extra history you really did a good job my friend
    thank you