How BAD Are CHEAP Webcams, Mics, and Capture Cards.. (vs Elgato and Logitech)

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  • @Senpai
    @Senpai  4 роки тому +378

    What's your cheapest piece of equipment that has actually worked really well for you? What about the priciest?

    • @KapsiF
      @KapsiF 4 роки тому +23

      Has to be my webcam aka my old phone 😂

    • @hika7154
      @hika7154 4 роки тому +6

      well, I play on a PC Laptop - and a mouse used for my mums work - lol

    • @aperillo7855
      @aperillo7855 4 роки тому +11

      My mic was $40 it sounds great and I’m very happy with it!! It is called tonor tc-777. It is slightly low but for a starter it is really good

    • @-manu-23
      @-manu-23 4 роки тому +6

      My mic is 30,- but it works really good it is the bm800

    • @velo4972
      @velo4972 4 роки тому

      My cheapest piece of equipment is a $60 amazon mic.... it’s worked well but I had to put 3 filters but we’re hustling it out.😂 that’s definitely gonna be the first upgrade and the most expensive is the elgato hd60s

  • @PixelCat
    @PixelCat 4 роки тому +736

    The cheapo cam link can do 720p 60fps. If you don't plan on doing full screen facecam or very little and 60fps is a must it'll work.

    • @m4llycat
      @m4llycat 4 роки тому +5

      Do you have a link for it? 👀

    • @KCWM
      @KCWM 4 роки тому +11

      @The Ancient One @m4llycat you can also find them on ebay for about $15, but they come from overseas. The eBay listing doesn't indicate that. There's also a "USB 3.0" version that's not actually USB 3.0. It says it will do 60fps, but people have looked into it and it does not. There are versions of these on Amazon that come with an 8" USB extender cable that helps with the stability of them (the slight bump on the desk seems to make them lose connection). I own two of the ones that Harris showed, one from Amazon and one from eBay, and one of the 3.0 ones I described. I used both on stream, though eventually switched to an HD60 S+ and then an actual Cam Link 4k. AMA.

    • @mechanicallydev4536
      @mechanicallydev4536 4 роки тому +2

      You can buy it from aliexpress for $6.

    • @WhatTheFrogDoing
      @WhatTheFrogDoing 4 роки тому +9

      @@KCWM there is actually a legit 1080p60 model out now that has the exact same body as the cheap card but in a coffee color rather than black. they're just now showing up on amazon for about $30 and are on ebay and aliexpress for about $10

    • @KCWM
      @KCWM 4 роки тому +1

      @@WhatTheFrogDoing The USB 3.0 version I referenced claimed to do 1080p60 but the blue tab that normally indicates USB 3.0 is fake and when connected to a computer, the output options indicated a cap of 1080p30. I'd be interested in seeing if it truly does 60 frames.

  • @darkpotato6577
    @darkpotato6577 4 роки тому +363

    “Do they expect people who buy this to be streaming off of a laptop?”
    *looks over at dell i7 laptop*

    • @amayagonzalezaaronyael2165
      @amayagonzalezaaronyael2165 4 роки тому +10

      I have an hp i3 Laptop, but I don't stream I code (shitty PC for that too)
      And it's not even 9th or 10th gen processor, it´s a 7th gen, Im suffering here.

    • @mistergameplay9766
      @mistergameplay9766 4 роки тому +2

      @@amayagonzalezaaronyael2165 damn a Duel core cpu?

    • @amayagonzalezaaronyael2165
      @amayagonzalezaaronyael2165 4 роки тому +2

      @@mistergameplay9766 Yeah, I think it's the i3 7020U

    • @Samyaak08
      @Samyaak08 3 роки тому +2

      @@amayagonzalezaaronyael2165 same pc lol upagrded to 8 gig ram lol

    • @amayagonzalezaaronyael2165
      @amayagonzalezaaronyael2165 3 роки тому +6

      I just updated to a new PC, Ryzen 5 2600 and RX5500 XT, 16GB RAM.
      The difference it's monstrous, and it was like 500USD
      It's soooooo much better I wanted to cry the first days

  • @frankholmes9600
    @frankholmes9600 4 роки тому +191

    I'll say it, even if it's just me: The Elgato WAVE does NOT sound good -- it's way too thin, and seems to have no range. Sure the software is nice, but the mic itself is a total disappointment, especially at that price. No sale -- I can't hear why it gets such good reviews, except for the novelty and the brand-name. Ugh.

    • @samsont.6321
      @samsont.6321 4 роки тому +18

      Say it louder for the people in the back

    • @timothyalexanderlewis
      @timothyalexanderlewis 4 роки тому +14

      Yeah it sounds the same as the other mic just with way less noise.

    • @ATCmon
      @ATCmon 4 роки тому +2

      You pay for software, not hardware.

    • @frankholmes9600
      @frankholmes9600 4 роки тому +2

      @@chrissyross Thanks for that insight, Chrissy! Honestly I am surprised by all the "likes" for my comment, considering no reviewer seemed to have a bad word about this mic. I "wanted" to like the WAVE too, but the sound seems to be truly lacking no matter which video I hear.

    • @CameraTim
      @CameraTim 4 роки тому +12

      I can’t seriously recommend most Elgato products when there’s almost always something cheaper or the same price that’s better, especially in the lighting department. Elgato doesn’t make terrible products, they make overpriced products because they have a monopoly on streaming.

  • @DeltaPJ
    @DeltaPJ 4 роки тому +29

    I actually use the cheapo capture card for my console recording! It's an incredible budget alternative until you can save up for an Elgato, since it does 720p 60fps pretty nicely, which isn't terrible to start.

  • @PixelCat
    @PixelCat 4 роки тому +441

    Thats why the cheap mic came with a USB hub. I've had the mic fuzz issue with my Yeti in the past when the mic is plugged directly into your PC. If you used the USB hub you probably wouldn't of had all that noise.

    • @nevoyu
      @nevoyu 4 роки тому +15

      That doesnt make sense because USB mics output a digital signal which is not subject to interference.

    • @nocte_dieque
      @nocte_dieque 4 роки тому +65

      @@nevoyu it's a known issue with USB mics in general, as some motherboards don't reliably supply clean signal. or, at least that's the theory. using a _separately powered_ USB hub does usually mitigate the issue

    • @timskay2
      @timskay2 4 роки тому +3

      Having run into this exact issue with even higher quality components, like the Sound Blaster K3+, it can mitigate sound popping at the noise floor, but it still doesn't fix it. Generally I would recommend a proper USB cable with 2 ferrite cuffs built in to it over a powered hub. Still a terrible hissing noise, no matter how you slice it.

    • @CptJimbo13
      @CptJimbo13 4 роки тому +8

      @@nevoyu grounds from the pc and the mic can still be connected which leaches noise from the PC into the analog circuity of the mic. Isolation of the electrical circuits may help this situation and if the Hub is doing that it can help.

    • @CocoManiaDX
      @CocoManiaDX 4 роки тому +10

      I used to have a Razer headset and the microphone would hiss like hell if the usb was plugged directly into the motherboard.
      Had to plug it either to a usb hub or before that I plugged it to a phone charger brick (it had USB for power only, and had the audio/mic jacks separately).
      So yeah, it's actually a good solution to plug USB mics to USB hubs.

  • @timsasje
    @timsasje 4 роки тому +32

    "Professional, does that word mean nothing"
    Apple: iPhone 11 pro

  • @travellersacademy9294
    @travellersacademy9294 4 роки тому +367

    I feel like you were overreacting a bit on the microphone comparison. The Elgato wave 1 was, of course, going to sound better but I was just surprised how good the cheap microphone sounded, especially when you compare the price differences.

    • @iloveshw
      @iloveshw 4 роки тому +21

      Bengani and correct me if I'm wrong the problem is a ground loop - hence the buzzing sound. Had the same problem with behringer usb mixer, not a cheap piece of equipment

    • @Iyorioknight
      @Iyorioknight 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah that what I thought you could use a base loop isolated to fix the buzzing noise they're like $6

    • @callmeqt1269
      @callmeqt1269 4 роки тому +23

      If it wasn’t for the buzzing, I think it’d be just fine.

    • @LTMotions
      @LTMotions 4 роки тому +4

      Yea. The only unbearable thing was that buzzing noise, but once he put it closer to his mouth it was muchhh better

    • @artofcod2913
      @artofcod2913 4 роки тому +28

      @@iloveshw yes, it was a ground loop, the microphone didnt sound as bad as Harris made out. Also notice how everything else he went for was Elgato branded ;) smells like sponsored video.

  • @charsiuwu8084
    @charsiuwu8084 4 роки тому +18

    That static buzz might be solved with a pass through, such as the USB hub it came with.

    • @TheCrispyChip
      @TheCrispyChip 3 роки тому +1

      I was juts about to say this. I personally use a yeti mic but my buddy uses this with a his hub and it has zero static haha.

  • @TAkkTikkA
    @TAkkTikkA 4 роки тому +153

    i've gotten a ton of value from that "generic" HDMI capture card - i will still upgrade to a 60fps capture card, eventually. but as I am just starting out, that cheapo card is a steal :)

    • @avinashkumar110
      @avinashkumar110 4 роки тому +1

      Can you use it capture other pc or console?

    • @TAkkTikkA
      @TAkkTikkA 4 роки тому +3

      ​@@avinashkumar110 yes, I'm using it for my game feed via hdmi and pass through to USB into the PC.

    • @ThatDeadGuy
      @ThatDeadGuy 4 роки тому +14

      Don't forget, that if you happen to be streaming at 720p anyway, you could drop the resolution of your cam or device to 720p, and capture it at 60fps also with these cheap cards. I've now got 3 of them in my setup.

    • @voraciousraven968
      @voraciousraven968 4 роки тому +1

      Is there a capture delay with it? :) Glad to hear its serving you well so far

    • @KCWM
      @KCWM 4 роки тому +3

      @@voraciousraven968 With cam capture, no. I haven't tried it with game capture, but have read/heard there is. I can't confirm.

  • @ianchristopher1523
    @ianchristopher1523 4 роки тому +4

    That capture card was a game changer! My coworker wanted to multicam his art class so the students could see his face and his hands/art. He was able to use his camera and his Mac webcam in zoom because of this card. Thanks!

  • @deiviuds
    @deiviuds 4 роки тому +188

    Please do that video comparing a lot of "looks interesting" cheap webcams

  • @fuzzyhell
    @fuzzyhell 4 роки тому +3

    You are a true inspiration and help to all those starting to stream in any sense!
    I read the description and saw the music options you added in and now I am beyond hooked! Can guarantee these songs will be stuck on repeat for weeks to come.

  • @eSaikyou
    @eSaikyou 4 роки тому +73

    The cheap cam looks like the temperature scanners when you want to enter a mall

  • @nathanhollow0
    @nathanhollow0 4 роки тому +36

    "This is what it comes with in the box."
    Thanks for not using the usb hub that came with in the box that would've mitigated the hissing noise. This just makes you look like you don't know what you're doing.

    • @MissingThoughtss
      @MissingThoughtss 3 роки тому

      @Elysian Accept that the mic is horrible, I think him saying that he wouldn’t suggest a mic under $50 was to much but the microphone in this video isn’t worth the price in my opinion

  • @jasd_6
    @jasd_6 4 роки тому +119

    Last time i was this early, Harris hit stream instead of record.

    • @NutterTTV
      @NutterTTV 4 роки тому +1

      We all done it lol

    • @jasd_6
      @jasd_6 4 роки тому +1

      @@NutterTTV lol just teasing. All love.

    • @NutterTTV
      @NutterTTV 4 роки тому

      I know :) i can tell

  • @BeersAndBeatsPDX
    @BeersAndBeatsPDX 4 роки тому +72

    There's a big difference between "cheap" and "inexpensive."

    • @jimmysyar889
      @jimmysyar889 3 роки тому +3

      adjective
      (of an item for sale) low in price; worth more than its cost.
      "they bought some cheap fruit"
      Similar:
      inexpensive
      low-priced
      low-price
      low-cost
      economical
      economic
      competitive
      affordable
      reasonable
      reasonably priced
      moderately priced
      keenly priced
      budget
      economy
      cheap and cheerful
      bargain
      cut-rate
      cut-price
      half-price
      sale-price
      sale
      reduced
      on special offer
      marked down
      discounted
      discount
      rock-bottom
      giveaway
      bargain-basement
      slashed
      going for a song
      dirt cheap
      bargainous
      Opposite:
      expensive
      adverb
      at or for a low price.
      "a house that was going cheap"
      there's no difference

    • @Bumblerage32
      @Bumblerage32 3 роки тому

      @@jimmysyar889 he doesn't mean grammar wise he means tech wise

    • @jimmysyar889
      @jimmysyar889 3 роки тому

      @gxrilla dude they’re synonymous for the same word

    • @jimmysyar889
      @jimmysyar889 3 роки тому

      @@Bumblerage32 they’re synonyms for the same word

    • @justsomeguy892
      @justsomeguy892 3 роки тому

      ​@@jimmysyar889 "cheap" can also mean "low quality". Inexpensive doesn't mean that.
      Regardless, you missed the point of the comment. They meant that when you just buy whatever costs the least amount, you're probably going to get a low quality product. If you instead look for a balance between price and quality, you're making more effective use of your money.

  • @JerridFoiles
    @JerridFoiles 4 роки тому +211

    When Harris says "I can tell the difference of 30fps, and 60fps" but it's all in 30 fps.

    • @joshuajeffries9990
      @joshuajeffries9990 4 роки тому +6

      He doesn't see the same thing that you're seeing.

    • @TwinkleNZ
      @TwinkleNZ 4 роки тому +2

      @@joshuajeffries9990 I wanna see what he's seeing if he's showing a comparison

    • @ReelokLtd
      @ReelokLtd 4 роки тому +3

      @@TwinkleNZ go to his house then. He can't show you the difference between 30fps and 60 fps on a video, there's too much shit to factor in

    • @eugenephillips4738
      @eugenephillips4738 4 роки тому +8

      @@ReelokLtd yes he can. UA-cam support 60 FPS playback.

    • @Swordonator
      @Swordonator 4 роки тому

      @@Mordekai.Glitches no there is 60 fps stuff

  • @ChrisChronos
    @ChrisChronos 4 роки тому +11

    I use two of those cheapo capture cards for streaming live gigs, and it looks fantastic! I couldn't be happier with that purchase!

  • @dominiclynch5618
    @dominiclynch5618 4 роки тому +14

    I was so confused! When I first watched this I had my sound really low as I was just listening in the background so I couldn't hear the static of the cheap mic and had no idea what you were complaining so much about (like obviously it was worse but not enough to warrant that kind of reaction). Then I turned up my volume... I see... Elgato mic it is then!

    • @MissingThoughtss
      @MissingThoughtss 3 роки тому

      @Elysian Having high expectations doesn’t mean that someone is being paid lmao

  • @jerredkincaidtattoos3005
    @jerredkincaidtattoos3005 4 роки тому +133

    As much as I love the reviews, I feel like harris tends to s**t on anything not elgato, Asus, etc.

    • @GRGHQ
      @GRGHQ 4 роки тому +13

      I was looking for this very comment! I felt that "cheap" mic sounded better than the expensive one...idk just my opinion... 🤷‍♂️
      -Sentinel

    • @sycophant8470
      @sycophant8470 4 роки тому +9

      @@GRGHQ are we talking about the same microphone that sounds like it is whining in the background the entire time

    • @GRGHQ
      @GRGHQ 4 роки тому +4

      @@sycophant8470 - I just had to go back a listen closely again to be sure, and in fact the ELGATO was picking up a lot of background noise, whining [if you will]. But for out of the box, the cheap mic sounded good! And with some filters [both physical and software], it could be worth it to someone just starting out! Just sayin'! 😎

    • @vFontzz
      @vFontzz 4 роки тому +1

      @@GRGHQ Please tell me you can hear the horrid buzzing frequency of the cheap Mic, the Elgato was by far the superior Mic in the testing

    • @sycophant8470
      @sycophant8470 4 роки тому

      @@GRGHQ im not talking about background noise im talking about the loud screech

  • @greenisbad1333
    @greenisbad1333 4 роки тому +14

    Can you please do a video on capture cards? I’m new to streaming and no one on the internet explains exactly what do they do or give a buyers guide, and it doesn’t seem you ever did on the channel. :)

    • @zSeiryu
      @zSeiryu 3 роки тому

      Capture cards are to capture gameplay on a console or a second computer. You have to have a computer and some software that comes with it to use it. Basically gold standard for a capture card is a Elgar’s HD60

    • @antman8845
      @antman8845 3 роки тому

      @@zSeiryu I was looking at buying a HD60S but i found a few people saying the passthrough functionality is so bad they used a hdmi splitter instead. It also apparently has 9ms more latency than this $20 nameless brand capture card.

  • @piotrgraniszewski8544
    @piotrgraniszewski8544 4 роки тому +1

    11:56
    That's not really how it works. My hypothesis is that the directional characteristics of these two microphones are slightly different. Not all cardioid condenser microphones are perfectly cardioid. There's a pattern called supercardioid with an additional lobe of sensitivity right at the rear. You should spin those two mics around and see for yourself where their null points are. The hum from your PC has a lot of medium frequency content while the keyboard is rich in high frequency content - supercardioids are usually quite sensitive to such sounds from the rear.
    12:05 is straight up ignorance unless we're talking about measurement microphones or other microphones with a true omnidirectional capsule.
    There's also another pattern called subcardioid that you should check out. It's like a less directional cardioid pattern.
    Real life directional patterns can vary quite a bit due to implementation details - they can even be uneven on their sides (the t.bone EM9900 shotgun microphone comes to my mind here, and you can find full measurements on their website). Most manufacturers only post basic polar pattern charts with one or just a couple of frequencies plotted... which is a shame. They certainly have access to better data.

  • @TeaOS
    @TeaOS 4 роки тому +31

    the "Can't Link" is highly revered at this point. I own like 4 for various B cams, its really good for $30

    • @KryptonicHD
      @KryptonicHD 4 роки тому +4

      Say it louder. I love my 10$ capture card hehehe

    • @NutterTTV
      @NutterTTV 4 роки тому +1

      My died within 6 streams.

    • @WolfsHaven
      @WolfsHaven 4 роки тому +1

      I have 3, plugged them into a powered USB hub at once and they all worked great. The only issue I've had was when I had my ATEM mini plugged in at the same time. Tried to capture the monitor out on the ATEM to feed that into OBS as well. The drivers conflict and capture stick fails, unplug the ATEM's USB from the computer and the stick worked again.
      That said, pay attention to the suppliers. Other manufacturers are cloning them but they aren't as good but look identical. The original manufacturer while not actually named anywhere, is making the good ones.

    • @KCWM
      @KCWM 4 роки тому +1

      @@WolfsHaven I own two of them, one from Amazon and one from eBay, and the one from Amazon seemed more reliable, and it came with an 8" extension cable. Neither device felt good plugged straight into a USB slot. I should A/B them, though if I do that, it'd be with two different cameras. It still might make an interesting "side by side".

  • @Alessiodesanta
    @Alessiodesanta 3 роки тому

    GUYS PLEASE READ THIS: I have recently tried the nameless no-brand capture card after a friend told me it worked like a charm, the problem is that during the pandemic that has been a very required item, so the (NAMELESS) company started building it with some with cheaper components, I assume, because I bought two, and they both had the same issue: they started recording perfectly and then after some time (20 minutes) they both got REALLY hot and started lagging (meaning the video was 1 second delayed from the audio). I solved the problem with the elgato capture card. PLEASE UPVOTE THIS IF USEFUL

  • @khiemthoang
    @khiemthoang 4 роки тому +67

    Buy 10 $30 webcams and have them go against each other!

  • @SCEmissary
    @SCEmissary 4 роки тому

    I have one of the cheapo capture cards and the CamLink and want to share some more findings:
    In OBS the standard video-proc settings for the cheapo are not optimal. Set brightness to 0, contrast to 128, hue to 0 and saturation to 128 (CamLink has this as standard). It prevents black and white crush and gives better colors. You can then still tweak the settings to your preferences.
    The cheapo seems to NOT record in FHD, but only half the horizontal resolution. I captured a test painting with thin lines and checkerboards from my laptop screen, no scaling, no compression. There it is obvious that the horizontal resolution is not the full 1920 pixels. Vertically though it is fine. I think this is the reason for the washed out look you mentioned. You will notice it mostly in strong contrasts, e.g. drawings and text on paper.
    So the output will be FHD, but the actual image resolution is lower.
    On the other hand I had no problems at all using it in OBS or conference apps like Zoom. That's even better than the CamLink which sometimes freezes in OBS when changing the settings.
    Still, for a measly 25 $ (or 20 € for me) it is absolutely okay, especially with lower end cameras or a camcorder.

  • @michaelkundmueller8506
    @michaelkundmueller8506 4 роки тому +6

    The 10 cheap webcams video is something that would help a lot of people or a series of the 10 cheapest mics, webcams, capture cards, and other streaming equipment

  • @Wamboexe
    @Wamboexe 3 роки тому +10

    I‘d love to see you ordering 10-20 webcams!

  • @retrovolume5280
    @retrovolume5280 4 роки тому +4

    I’ve actually been using this for the past three weeks, works wonderfully for my recording gameplay on my switch!

  • @Mik35959
    @Mik35959 4 роки тому

    Did the volume knob keep turning on the new one. The sound issues could be crossed cables. I have a blue yeti and if it goes across a poorly shielded power cable I get a similar noise

  • @JohannKarlT
    @JohannKarlT 4 роки тому +7

    The cheapo capture card actually does 720p 60fps, I wish it was said since you're technically not missing out on that feature especially since if used for streaming the resolution isn't the biggest factor to consider, but a pretty good comparison nonetheless!

    • @animephraseman7442
      @animephraseman7442 4 роки тому

      To many knowledge that is incorrect, I think it can do 720 60 but when using it I find the standard setting it is 1080 30

    • @JohannKarlT
      @JohannKarlT 4 роки тому

      @@animephraseman7442 I have the capture card too, most applications allow you to change the settings of the recording, unless of course the input your recording can only do 1080p 30 which would be odd

    • @animephraseman7442
      @animephraseman7442 4 роки тому

      @@JohannKarlT yeah but what I am saying is that the capture card can do 1080p, not just 720. Your original comment made is sound as if it used 720 and not 1080

    • @JohannKarlT
      @JohannKarlT 4 роки тому

      @@animephraseman7442 but my comment was in reply to the video but i guess if you take it out of context then it wouldn't of made sense but i guess that happens on the internet so i'll make sure next time to be more specific

    • @animephraseman7442
      @animephraseman7442 4 роки тому

      @@JohannKarlT Yeah lel

  • @BastiaanOlij
    @BastiaanOlij 4 роки тому

    On the cheap, I got that $23 capture card as well to hook up my camcorder and I'm damn surprised it works as well as it does. I do have it on 720p where I think it does support 60fps, you might want to check that out.
    Also on the cheap, I use a NEEWER USB mic and have been for the past year or so. It's not perfect but a HELL of a lot better then the cheapo mic you tried in this video, I suggest checking one out.
    On the expensive side is my camcorder (while that wasn't what I bought for my stream but happened to have so saved me buying a new camera) and the Elgato HD60S that I use for capturing gameplay/gamedev video, as that it is the main focus of my youtube channel I didn't want to skimp on that after struggling for months with screen recording on my computer itself.

  • @jragadio
    @jragadio 4 роки тому +4

    Camlink 4Ks are in stock as of 16 Aug on Corsair/Elgato and BestBuy!

  • @RiyuichiNarita
    @RiyuichiNarita 4 роки тому +2

    I'm running that hdmi capture, and tbh, it's great. I run my Sony a7iii through it for twitch, and it actually ran better than my old Elgato. Would be happy to get a cam link, but I'm more than happy with it for now. If you're interested in the quality, it's what I've used in every stream. twitch.tv/raggedydoc
    Edit: Your reaction was exactly the same as mine!

  • @JHarrisoon
    @JHarrisoon 4 роки тому +33

    Your content is so professional, on behalf of all of us, Thank you! :)

    • @freneko879
      @freneko879 4 роки тому +1

      Only if the cheapo mic was as professional

  • @Ozibits
    @Ozibits 4 роки тому +4

    They have a 60 fps version for $49. Can you please review it? its called FURUI Upgraded HDMI Capture Card, 1080P 60fps Game Capture Card, USB 3.0...

  • @adrianruvalcaba8743
    @adrianruvalcaba8743 4 роки тому +5

    I bought a camlink right on Elgatos/Corsair website and in came with in 4 business days.

  • @spotekus1620
    @spotekus1620 4 роки тому +1

    Hello (WARNING broken English).
    In South Africa you pay almost double ($) for everything.
    Thank you so much, you really helped me to get started as a content creator.
    Your videos gives a lot more information than just buy this and that.
    I'm still nerves but, I would never have started if I had not followed you on UA-cam.
    Please don't stop this type of content.

  • @RT-qw5pn
    @RT-qw5pn 4 роки тому +4

    Petition for a headset mic vs cheapo mic video:

  • @TheLameTV
    @TheLameTV 2 роки тому +1

    hey have you checked out samson meteor mic? its a microphone built for recording acoustic instruments but I have found that it really works well for a budget starter streaming microphone and its only $60

  • @amp1o214
    @amp1o214 4 роки тому +4

    Bruh that "cheap" tech is like gold to me

    • @gutstallion
      @gutstallion 4 роки тому

      This dude just spoiled brat.

    • @amp1o214
      @amp1o214 4 роки тому +2

      @@gutstallion Bruh you joking this dude has worked his ass off for this, get a life kid

    • @gutstallion
      @gutstallion 4 роки тому

      @@amp1o214 calm down. You have distorted sense of reality. Just think before type something.

    • @amp1o214
      @amp1o214 4 роки тому +2

      @@gutstallion cool

  • @notanothersimsvlogger1120
    @notanothersimsvlogger1120 4 роки тому

    I bought one of those capture cards after seeing another UA-cam channel reviewing it but I was worried when I saw you'd got your hands on one. I'm SO GLAD you were impressed with it, I bough it to hook up my DSLR to my recording station for my UA-cam channel, later this year (currently using my iPhone XS and it's NOT working as well as you'd think) so if you're impressed with it, I'm not upset about spending £20 on it!

  • @figo.stavorinus
    @figo.stavorinus 4 роки тому +5

    16:37 when u come to the family reunion and everyone stares at you

  • @FreakyChumy
    @FreakyChumy 3 роки тому

    The Cheapo CamLink copy Capture card now has the 1080P 60fps which now is a USB 3.0 capable. Same looks but the color is like light brown for the USB 3.0 the 1080P 30 is plain black.

  • @the_Supernova
    @the_Supernova 4 роки тому +8

    I actually have a $60 USB Microphone, and using VoiceMeeter made it sound like $100 more in value 🤣

    • @gettriggered_ian3269
      @gettriggered_ian3269 4 роки тому +1

      Ikr. Do you have a snowball?

    • @the_Supernova
      @the_Supernova 4 роки тому

      @@gettriggered_ian3269 Nope. A MAONO. prob never heard of it 👉👈

  • @Effect2o
    @Effect2o 4 роки тому

    Just curious what your opinion (being a sound guy) the noise that the cheap mic was making. Do you think that was just cheap components? Cheap USB cable? IS that the PC processing feeding back? And did the noise stop or get better when you were holding it? (grounding out that frequency?) I use to have this noise in my old setup and I HATED it. curious what causes it.

  • @diaris8177
    @diaris8177 4 роки тому +4

    Buy loads of cheap webcams and usb microphones and do a huge comparison. That would be epic.

  • @zelh5969
    @zelh5969 4 роки тому

    Those capture dongles? I just found the same one with usb 3.0 and 4k@30 / 1080@60. The price - I bought 2 including postage for AU$36. Also, maybe you can hear the difference locally, but once it gets compressed onto a youtube stream the audio difference isn't that apparent. Even when played on $1200 worth of of Onkyo 5.1

  • @renansampedro
    @renansampedro 4 роки тому +4

    BM800 would be a more popular choice to put there in the "cheap mic" category, i believe it wouldn't sound that bad.

    • @slurpyiwnl.2733
      @slurpyiwnl.2733 4 роки тому

      I had a BM800, it was hot garbage, I currently have Fifine K669B ($30) and it's great. Totally recommend.

  • @jasonbailey9049
    @jasonbailey9049 3 роки тому

    I bought two of those cheap HDMI capture cards for streaming church services about a year ago; they work great. The only complaint I have is if the device feed from the source device (feed from display laptop or camera) gets power cycled OBS no longer sees the device even if it's back to fully on; you have to unplug capture card, plug it back in and reconfigure in OBS. Does that also happen with more expensive capture devices?

  • @dalorius2640
    @dalorius2640 3 роки тому +4

    if you're looking for a 50$ microphone, i would recommend the blue snowball

    • @HeelerHouse
      @HeelerHouse 3 роки тому +3

      I'd get the Fifine K669

    • @justpancakes6019
      @justpancakes6019 3 роки тому

      No, that was a long time ago. Now you can get the razed siren mini or hyper x quadcast

    • @justpancakes6019
      @justpancakes6019 3 роки тому

      I mean solo cast. Those 2 are much better and they are the same price

    • @ArcadeAlex
      @ArcadeAlex 3 роки тому

      @@HeelerHouse I have it and as I think it sounds great

  • @MusicNerdStuff
    @MusicNerdStuff 4 роки тому

    Sounds like maybe the cheapo mic isn't clocked right...having both of those mics simultaneously plugged in, both using their own internal A/D converters, unless you specifically were able to set both mics to clock to the computer's internal clock (or whatever clock, as long as it was the same) one will be mis-clocked...might be worth a test with ONLY the cheapo connected.

  • @CeeworldMedia
    @CeeworldMedia 4 роки тому +6

    4:26 Something you never want to hear lol

  • @Tabasa05
    @Tabasa05 3 роки тому

    Harris, 100% make the cheap-o video. It would be wonderful to see someone who knows their shit review the 'cheapest shit' and see if it's any good. As a newly starting streamer (who does happen to be on a cheapish laptop, am I horrible?), I was happy to find your videos and have been watching and absorbing all your information the best I can.

  • @DmytroComrad
    @DmytroComrad 4 роки тому +3

    Pls buy and test Fifine K670

  • @ezrarichardson279
    @ezrarichardson279 2 роки тому +1

    Is there some reason for streaming you need frame rates above 30 FPS? I mean for normal videos, movies and stuff you want to stay as close to 24-30 FPS as possible so I’m confused about why this is a problem. Maybe with streaming the extra frames means that even if your internet is bad then it’ll still look pretty good (less dropped frames)?

  • @chill_pop3385
    @chill_pop3385 4 роки тому +4

    me looking at sponsor after 3/1/20: lol imagine 2080 ti

  • @ContasYT
    @ContasYT 4 роки тому +1

    For a budget mic, whats the issue with a Blue Snowball iCE?

  • @nhn9521
    @nhn9521 4 роки тому +5

    Lets be fair, there are AMAZING mics under 50$ (Fifine,Neewer NW 7000) he just chose a really bad one.

    • @greatwolfgaming1166
      @greatwolfgaming1166 4 роки тому

      NW-700 is so good I've bought three. Two were for friends

    • @hepphepps8356
      @hepphepps8356 4 роки тому

      Wow. People have different viewpoints. An AMAZING microphone would be a $10,000 Sony C800G. Or a a even more expensive Vintage Neumann U67 or U47.
      But you can get more than good enough mics for streaming with broadcast quality for less than half. Maybe even as low as $2000

    • @starchy_
      @starchy_ 3 роки тому

      Yeah, my mic was $14 and i think it is amazing. It wven came with all the acessories, not just the mic.

  • @RebeccaLoran
    @RebeccaLoran 4 роки тому

    I picked up a Tonor TC-777 for about 40 bucks and I do have to say compared to my webcam mic it's a HUGE upgrade. I am holding off on any upgrades at all until I can justify one with actual revenue. You've said so many times, and so has Devin that the equipment is only a small part of what helps you grow. I think I have decent audio, lighting, and video at this point and upgrading would probably be a waste of money since I need to focus on being a better content creator both on UA-cam and Twitch(both have different types of content and reasons for using the platform)

  • @rickybgaming
    @rickybgaming 4 роки тому +7

    Whenever you mention ASUS my brain automatically hears "Jesus" in Spanish haha

    • @DutchUltra
      @DutchUltra 4 роки тому

      he is pronouncing it wrong by the way :)

  • @theunknown6466
    @theunknown6466 4 роки тому +1

    Quick question
    I have a DSLR and so should I get that cheap capture card and use that as a webcam? currently, I use my one plus 6 with droid cam to make my phone as a webcam it's not the best quality but it gets the job done and I only get like 4-5 viewers so should I get a capture card and if yes then will the cheapo one work?

  • @MAKSZHI
    @MAKSZHI 4 роки тому +5

    I use the small capture card for my streams, its just suprising how 'good' that tiny stick is for 15dollars :o

  • @Jorozzzzz
    @Jorozzzzz 4 роки тому +1

    Wait I thought that if you plan to keep your mic on the desk stand and not very close to your mouth you should get condenser mic and not dynamic one ..... or at least that is what I got from the video of Podcastage about "What's the Best Mic & How To Select the Right Mic (For Beginners)" .... so can you guys figure that one out? If I plan to use my mic on the desk stand should I go for dynamic or condenser ???

  • @zuhn
    @zuhn 4 роки тому +17

    i watched this

  • @JamesLundquist
    @JamesLundquist 4 роки тому

    I got my mic off of Amazon for $38. It's a Neewer NW-8000_USB with pop filter, mic arm and desk mount. I haven't had any complaints about the sound from any of my viewers.

  • @mannix5b516
    @mannix5b516 4 роки тому +13

    Just me or is overreacting to the differences in mics?

  • @gilclaudio3078
    @gilclaudio3078 4 роки тому

    I bought the same capture card. I'm using a 5yr old i3 laptop and Sony a5100. It worked but only for 720p 30 fps. Frames were dropped when using 1080p 30fps, video was downgraded to 10 fps, with significant latency. Unusable for OBS. I then bought another no-name capture card, around $60, but this was 4K and 3.0 USB. The 1080p 30fps worked with "forgivable" latency--I'm using this to make videos for the classes I teach during the pandemic, so I hope they wouldn't mind the slight delay.

  • @BB992
    @BB992 4 роки тому +9

    Makes ~70k/month - "Can't justify buying a nice knife."

    • @danwells9525
      @danwells9525 3 роки тому +3

      That mindset will allow him an awesome retired life in his 60s, 70s, and beyond.

  • @MrJBA79
    @MrJBA79 3 роки тому

    I have two 1080p @ 30fps cameras incl. the Logitech C922 Pro.. and because they're not 60fps they will always look loggy against a 60fps stream. What I'm looking for is respectable, well priced, 60fps options.

  • @BariBone
    @BariBone 4 роки тому +1

    The "nasty hum" in the cheap mic are electronic frequencies. These are most likely coming from the RGB around him, as it gives off a sound exactly like that that most microphones don't pick up unless you put it right next to the source. It is inaudible to bare human ear. These frequencies can be picked up without RGB on and simply come from the electronic device itself if the mic is bad enough, but most of the time even XLR mics can pic it up if it is right next to the source.

  • @kipling1957
    @kipling1957 3 роки тому

    I have one and it works perfectly on a Canon 80D and C100 MK2. I also use an ATEM Mini Pro and there’s no difference in image quality can detect in 1080P/30FPS, and no glitches so far. It comes in handy when I need a portable and simple set-up away from my main studio.

  • @joshinthemoment
    @joshinthemoment 4 роки тому

    I'm based in malaysia, got the cheapo capture card for less than 7 USD, bought a used hero3+ black for about 50 bucks, and spent about 20 $ more for for cables, clamp mounts etc, and about 30$ on lights and into obs, and its the best setup in my whole school, other than that one crazy lecturer who spent about $2k on a dslr, elgato capture card, and fancy rgb lights. thanks for all the pointers! also i've tested the 4k in and it seems to work on OBS, but i usually just run 1080 cos on Zoom and Lark (which we use for Uni), the max possible is 1080p. My total cost came out to about 120-130 USD including all the extra bits and pieces i bought along the way. still since the logitech c920 is selling for about 110 USD, its not that far off and way better image quality. I run a SSL 2 and a 1" cardioid condenser for my audio so it sounds excellent as well.

  • @jmac2050
    @jmac2050 3 роки тому +1

    think the cheapo webcam might work if you adjust your lights, because the guitars in the background looks good.

  • @ZAKtalksTECH
    @ZAKtalksTECH 4 роки тому +1

    I was reluctant to buy an Elgato Cam Link again (due to cost), and was wondering about these cheaper capture cards. THANK YOU for easing my concerns! I'll be grabbing one of these "budget" options. Love the content you offer (stream stuff). I'm a new sub! Cheers!

  • @malaria1779
    @malaria1779 4 роки тому

    i have one of those no name USB cam links. It does do 1080p60.... I used it today (with a sony A7R2) with a ~900 person stream for a couple hours on my main channel (UnchartedX). It is a little... almost blurry? Like you said about the lens being dirty or something. It works but I'm considering the elgado, should they ever become available (I have a HD60 in the stream PC this is also in)

  • @zSeiryu
    @zSeiryu 3 роки тому +1

    I have a microphone recommendation. Samsung Q2U. It has a USB option and a XLR option. $50 sounds REALLY good in XLR if you ask me, I get compliments in games all the time for it

  • @davelevelsup
    @davelevelsup 3 роки тому

    I realize this is an "old" video, but the neewer nw-7000 is a solid $50 usb mic, but as with any audio solution, setting up your space properly and applying appropriate filters will go a long way to improving quality.

  • @JackPS9
    @JackPS9 4 роки тому

    I've been using that capture card for like 2 months now, not much in the way of issues. Only issues I have, I'm not sure if it's my old Rebel T3i or the capture card as it's losing the connection so my facecam goes black every once a while for like 1-3 seconds then kicks back in. For a microphone I've been enjoying my neewer XLR (can't think of which one it is).

  • @MoldGaster
    @MoldGaster 4 роки тому

    Can you make video about your light tubes which are behind you? I want to buy something like you use. thanks

  • @iManticore
    @iManticore 4 роки тому

    Would you ever consider doing a video on different equipment MOUNTS? I know it's a typically overlooked piece, but I've found some camera mounts for example either don't support the weight of a camera well or they don't secure fully and that can lead to the field-of-view drifting.

  • @prodbysoxx
    @prodbysoxx 3 роки тому

    I hate you for 1:43 lmaoo why you gotta make my heart stop like that 😭😭😭😂😂

  • @killerhawks
    @killerhawks 4 роки тому

    So what setting do u not apply to the cheap mic that you have applied to the elgato? Eq's gates suppressors etc? Because on the cheap mic it sound like its picking up room noises....or something is not shielded correctly

  • @muajin
    @muajin 3 роки тому

    I just got the C270 from Logitech but doesn’t want to work with youtube webcam. Light doesn’t come on and no video starts. Any suggestions?

  • @RiaTheNecromuenster
    @RiaTheNecromuenster 4 роки тому

    As someone who made the worst decision to start streaming during the Quarantine, and needed a cap-card for streaming Switch games, I bought that exact cap-card since I didn't have the spare dosh for an elgato.
    For what it's worth, It'll get the job done for the cost, and there is a short delay but for the price it's negligible, but the long term is a nightmare.
    Every time the console is turned off, and then turned back on, the video footage just stops coming in, and I have to re-plug in everything and roll dice for the footage to come in.
    Keep that in mind if you're on a super budget for this cap-card.

  • @UnaKarlsen
    @UnaKarlsen 3 роки тому

    I recently got one of those cheepo HDMI capture devices with passthrough for a funeral that we had to stream from a laptop. I was really surprised at how well it worked, though there was one gotcha. It didn't work with any video source that provided timecode. This meant no HDMI or USB output when connected to my BlackMagick Pocket Cinema Camera 4K, or my Atomos Ninja while timecode was enabled, but by disabling timecode on the Ninja I was able to strip the timecode and get a second local recording before piping into the HDMI capture which did the job. The capture device works fine directly with a GoPro or Olympus OM-D EM-10iii though.

  • @filthyhanzomain7917
    @filthyhanzomain7917 4 роки тому +1

    I have the uhuru um40 which is usb and 65 (bought in on sale for 50)euros but comes with a pop filter and arm and it sounds very good. No buzzing , just solid voice sounds like that 130$ mic

  • @GentleCatMedia
    @GentleCatMedia 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Harris,
    thanks for the great video, as always.
    With regards to the mic, as you could use it with the Elgato software. Does this also mean, I could use the Wave Link software without buying the Elgato Wave microphone?
    I bought an Auna 900 couple of weeks ago and would love to use the software to balance all the stuff for my stream.

  • @KobraTrading
    @KobraTrading 4 роки тому

    When I first started doing UA-cam videos I had a $50 Fifine USB mic (which the USB cable was permanently attached too, no mute, no headphone jack) and it actually sounded pretty good, I use an ATR2020XLR now with a MOTU M2 interface and Adobe Audition as my DAW, now I sound like I'm on a Shure SM7B =D

  • @dahat1992
    @dahat1992 3 роки тому +1

    Is there a link for the budget capture card?

  • @imad2097
    @imad2097 4 роки тому +1

    As a Microphone i can't say that enough BUY THE FIFINE K669B it's a USB mic and the quality for just 35$ here where i live is fking amazing! Seriously ! Never thought such a cheap mic would be that good im using it together with Voice meeter and a microphone holder. Would'nt recommend the thing that comes with the mic

  • @Yakez42
    @Yakez42 4 роки тому

    Looks like chipo mic have build in extra feature and working as proper radio antenna.

  • @Dubsicle
    @Dubsicle 2 роки тому

    i got a 4K camcorder with an external Røde mic .... can i use that mic, instead of my cheap XLR one for better vocals or how does that work ?

  • @notmaddax
    @notmaddax 4 роки тому

    Should I buy that capture card (13:19) and use it to live stream with a Sony a600 with a stock lens?

  • @EragoEntertainment
    @EragoEntertainment 4 роки тому

    I bought the Neewer 8000 USB microphone for 38€ with a full set (arm, pop-filter, etc.) and it doesn't sound as bad as this. For video calls in university it's a massive jump from my logitech headset mic.
    Also the 1080p Webcam (branded as Teknet at the time) I bought for 20€ 2-3 years ago might look a bit washed out, but it doesn't have these color problems, so it probably depends on which one you get.
    So depending on what you want to do, maybe the cheapo stuff is enough, especially if you don't have an extra 100€ or so to spare, but want to achieve a quality level where most people won't complain about the audio. A level where you know it's not good, but not bad enough to be annoying.

  • @mytchill5492
    @mytchill5492 3 роки тому

    I have an elgato hd60 s that I bought but can’t get it to work whenever I plug it in I get told it won’t work without a usb 3.0 connection, to which I have tried every blue port on my pc and still cannot get it to work and my computer privacy settings are not keeping it from working and this seems to be a really common issue didn’t know if you had any similar issues and found out how to fix.

  • @JayBoyModz
    @JayBoyModz 4 роки тому

    Which shotgun mic are you using? Thanks

  • @RhystleMania
    @RhystleMania 4 роки тому

    I bought that same capture card from a store on eBay for £8 and I cannot believe how good it is for the price. Definitely would recommend it (and have been to everyone that will listen) for someone like myself who is just getting started with streaming.

  • @score_more
    @score_more 4 роки тому +2

    17:38 ... it looks like a dang diopter camera😂 that means: the focus is on the subject and the objects in the back.