Now this is kool. Love performance material... very kool to see some stuff and also getting out there and doing it! Like you said "getting out of the comfort zone" Super cool man! Cheers! 🔥👊🧡👍🔥
Your reviews are now pretty much industry-standard and expected for any major synth release. This sort of video gives them additional weight because finishing music is much harder than noodling an example for a review. Even more so if the music ends up being good. And even harder if you are performing live. So kudos! I loved this 🤘🏻
This is great! It came at the perfect time. I've also recently been trying to decide on a groovebox for live performance. I'd narrowed it down to the Deluge and the Maschine+. The fact that the Deluge is still receiving such strong support has sold me on it.
The new screen on the Deluge will help a lot for live use, its pretty stressful to find things on the fly on the old one. My solution was to use a performance-specific SD card but that is kind of a pain in the ass.
I have a Deluge and love it's sequencing abilities. I had the Maschine Plus too, but I couldn't figure out how to prepare/arm a sequence to end naturally at the end of its chosen bar length; rather, I had to stop or mute them, which was always too jarring. I returned it because of this and also due to the CPU problem (very, very real unfortunately). But I'd perhaps get another if I knew how to prepare a sequence to stop naturally without hitting STOP/MUTE.
I recently started doing sets after about 2 years in Batcave mode. And after my first set I immed cut out 1/2 my Hardware & pared down to one synth , circuit tracks, an old MacBook Air, mini fuse 2, Launchpad Mini, and launch key Mini mk3. And a guitar. I still feel like it's too much but my home studio is just not something I want to bring out, let alone set up and break down on a stage before or after other artists lol. Wish I could be there to see your performance and thanks for the helpful info on maschine!
mate, big fan of the channel, and funny enough, I am doing something similar, having the Maschine+ as the big boss, with Cycles being MIDI controlled by a Minilab 3 (so I can use the faders for Cycles tracks) but running audio into Maschine so I can use FX (especially sidechain and filter). Also have a Cobalt 8x as my main keyboard in the setup. Now it's just the balls to start making some videos (lol). You're an inspiration, bud.
Great analysis! And so rare. Few people are in your position, with such a range of gear to choose from. Like many others here, I would love to hear your whole set. And hit me up if you ever come to Ireland.
zione Hi . I came across this video of his due to a problem and I don't take advantage of his vast experience in case he has a moment to advise me. I have a problem with komplete kontrol mkII. Maschine window and daw job 2; everything up to date including komplete kontrol software with Native access. Everything works except for one "small" detail: the keyboard doesn't play the loaded sounds, and it doesn't seem to send midi signals to the computer. So all the functions (load sounds, mixer, channel selection, play, stop, ... etc go and work the daw) but the keys don't play or record any sound or track. I reloaded the daw and also the diel kontrol software but nothing. In the "controller" dropdown of Maschine 2 kontrol mk2 it is regularly selected, however I realized that if I go to the preferences in the midi setting where I have to select input or output device, in fact, I don't see any device to select. In short, there is something wrong and it seems by deduction both in the operating systems also because I have always connected via USB kontrol mk2 to maschine plus in standalone mode everything works and plays as well; while with maschine plus in controller mode it doesn't work anymore. Can you give me some pointers? I really thank you. Louis
Im really debating between maschine plus, mpc one, or even roland mc707 for a groovebox to compose and sketch out songs. I make everything from psytrance to pop music. What do you recommend?
Get whatever will inspire you to create. The MC707 is more of as closed system that's easier to use, MPC One and Maschine+ are more open and can do more, but more complex
this thing that deluge doesn't work or export tracks through USB port is totatlly Killing me ____ and yes Machine Plus seams the fan of all for controlling it all
I actually think it's awesome "no chops" people can make music they and maybe some others enjoy. Feel free to link to videos of you chopping away so we can all admire your skills though
It's a pleasant surprise finding out that you're actually putting your superpowers to work in the real world! I've always enjoyed the musicality of your reviews. I don't go to live shows anymore but if I knew you were playing, I'd have to see it. You're a musical force.
Love it! Thanks for giving some insight into how you build a live performance. I totally agree we are spoiled for choice, and it always amazes me how each person mixes and matches gear to make their own unique sound and performance. Great content (as always)!
what a coincidence! I was not even a week ago in the same situation with the same choice of grooveboxes and I had exactly the same thoughts as you! It's good to see only a few days later this video as confirmation - especially from someone I appreciate very much.
Excellent video. I just ordered a Maschine plus finally. About 3 years late to the party but ive been wanting one for a long time. This video helped reduce my buyer's remorse. 😅
I think anything can be used for live sets, it all depends on the person's skillset, also people are wired differently, so what works for some might not work for others.
@@loopop Good to see the body and face behind the hands, when people have poked fun at you for just being hands, here you are proving that you are so much more. Congrats, and keep em coming!!!
Akai Force has its own version of Lock, called Snapshot. Has had it for some time now. I much prefer Force workflow over Maschine+, and plug-in limit aside - it’s a far better machine IMHO.
True, though it's only one snapshot per scene if I'm not mistaken, so it wouldn't work as per the way it did here for multiple transitions in a scene. That said, Force is awesome and if it wasn't for the 8 plugin limit you might have been seeing it here!
@@loopop - for multiple transitions a Scene, you just copy/paste your Scene and save your new Snapshot - yes, you’d have to switch to the new Scene for the unique Snapshot, but functionally your end result would be the same as Lock on Maschine+. But yeah - that 8 plug-in limit. I’m afraid Force (and MPC) current SoC is showing it’s age.
I'm new to your channel and new subscriber. I'm still trying to learn how to use my MASCHINE Jam as I purchased som years ago and never learned how to use it. I see these new ones out in production. Very nice. I'm trying to get back to the studio to make some music. Nice video.
You are the VaatiVidya of synth-heads and electronic music. Your information has been so clean and easy to follow you earned a sub before I even bought any of my stuff and because of you and your tutorials I ended up buying a Beatstep pro and Keystep37. Thank you.
Reviewed this once again, very nice walkthrough with some great ideas and insights for using the M+ for live performance 👍🏻 So frustrating to see that NI still didn’t improved some of the mentioned cons, especially where it comes to transferring projects or using wifi for it. Also, they still didn’t fix some of the issues with for instance the audio interface compatibility. Such a great device, but Akai moves so much faster. Hopefully they will keep up with MPC3 already in public beta and Maschine 3 still in the works; with the M+ even not on par with the latest release of the desktop version…
Indeed hopefully NI continues investing in M/M+, however, there are still things Maschine can do that MPC can't - like clip launching and morphs, but the gap is getting narrower and certainly many things MPC can do that Maschine can't
@@loopop absolutely, that’s why I’m seriously considering the Akai Live 2 next to the M+. But first I’ll wait for the Maschine 3 software beta to see what’s in store, and what features COULD make their way into the Maschine+ standalone (but at this point NI really has to regain my trust, so disappointed in their behavior as a company and brand). And with the MPC3 software already in public beta (first on standalone, one of the big Pros of Akai’s approach!), it also seems logical to me that MPC Live MK3 is the first device that could / should be upgraded. Until then, Maschine Plus it is.
in case you wish to make fast changes in multiple tracks at once, I'd recommend APC 40 + ableton. you can midimap the faders to 'wash out' tracks and easily return to full mix by moving multiple faders
My takeaway from this is if I was going to do a live set I'd just take one force and play an MP3 file and maybe one of my other synths while I was loading up another project. If that went better than my dreams of playing live then I'd get a second force. I think it's great having 25 different sound generators in a studio but live. I think I just want maximum 2units. And look after your ears. Don't go overboard on volume. You can get quite cheap amps that can blast your eardrums these days, but you only get one set of eardrums. They're not replaceable.
I have a Maschine plus, and I have lightly performed live with it. It works fine although you might run into bugs and CPU issues as said in the video. It works with MIDI like a charm, and I would defiantly recommend it.
I think that another super power of Maschine is that you can change a scene while it's playing, without having to wait for it to end, for the second one to kick in. This is game changer in a live set (I never owned any of the other sequencers you mentioned so I am not sure if they can do that as well)
Hey bud. I had Tue Maschine Plus but I found I couldn't use it live precisely because I couldn't (or possibly didn't understand how) 'arm' a scene/sequence to end at the end of its natural bar length. The only thing I could do was either mute or stop a sequence, which doesn't lend itself to a smooth workflow. As a result I returned it (also due to the horrible CPU issue). But I'd reconsider if there was a way to start and end scenes/sequences in this way. I also have a Deluge, which has a superb sequencer, and does precisely this, so it's a breeze in live performance
@@JackAcidOn M+, you hit shift & Grid, which takes you to the choices between how you want Scenes and timing changes to happen.... Super easy and powerful feature, and if you add Maschine Jam, you can change Scenes on the Jam while staying on mixer screens and others on the M+ ITself.... Once again, extremely powerful in live use 🤙🌌
Just swapped my MPC live for a Maschine plus so your Video is perfect on time for me. Thx for that. My "brain" ist the Akai force. The Mic pre Amps and the pad Layout pulled the Trigger. Bur Love to have Maschine as an addition for Beat programming.
Great video, thanks! I`ve been developing a live set and have been considering the same options. Maschine+ kinda seems like a hassle, Akais offerings all seem unstable and buggy and the others just arent powerful enoughfor my use. So a computer with Ableton Live, a few synths and controllers it is I guess…
I honestly don’t see the big deal of lugging around a MacBook and an audio interface. That being said, I like that this device is a bit more powerful. I do think that the standalone nature of this device is a bit overstated. If you really like the idea of taking this everywhere and sampling or performing, is it really all that much more encumbering to bring an m1 and an audio interface? At the very most it’s just a minor convenience and I don’t see it being worth double the price.
another advantage of a computer+interface is that you can use plugins on your computer. for me personally I already had the Maschine+, a show (for me at least) is a stressful situation so the less gear the better, which is why I preferred it
MacBook doesn’t provide tactile memory. You need to connect external gear (midi controller) to get tactile interface. M+ provide everything you need for it 🤷♂️
I really learned to hate the Akai Force in the last few weeks. Not only is there a limit of the plugins, but it is also full of bugs. E.g. with the latest update, Midi Map won't work any more, external audio interface produces glitches, and it is low on memory pretty fast. Also, until the most recent update you could not even swap tracks and had to work around with endless copy/past/delete but the update caused other malfunctions. No computer access to the internal SSD, no way to do a factory reset by yourself. The force has good hardware, but the software is terrible, also the menu structure is super weird. Decided to accept a macbook on stage and went with Ableton like in the good old days... The Machine+ looks like the best of both worlds, have a computer interface to go into detail as much as you want and then "lock" it on the machine itself.
I think none of these you can actually make huge and full of melodies / complexity because 1) - the sequencer limitations 2) - the amount of plugins you really need to use and how you access those modulations ...and many other problems....Its just a cool all in one machine - if you decided to create and finish the entire track on this....its way harder and limited by using a DAW + external gear
You can workaround the MPC plugin limit by saving your custom preset and auto mating a change to that preset in another sequence within the save plugin instance.
This was great! It was awesome to finally see your face, and also to know your music is being heard live.. All throughout the video I couldn’t stop wondering what would it be like to have the Roland sp404 mk2 as a brain in such live performance setup
Thanks very much! Since I really needed synths I didn't consider it, but I did toy with including the SP404 MK2 here as an end-of-chain processor/fx/transition tool. Might do it at some point!
@@loopop my live rig is just an SP404MK2 (I sample from the synths in my studio and field recordings) and it’s midi sequenced by a digitone which provides all my synth layers. The polyphonic midi channels on the digitone really empower you to make the most of the 404s capabilities!
A great accessory to add synths, or even FX, to a Force, MPC or other groovebox is an iPad (or iPhone). Great for overcoming the 8 instrument limit on the MPC/Force. The synths and FX on an iPad are excellent. With a standards compliant audio interface, you get up to 32 channels in/out, plenty for routing sends or synths on separate channels (e.g. if using an external mixer), or the iPad can be the mixer for your setup (using AUM, Loopy Pro, Beatmaker 3, Drambo, etc.). Or just use the iPad as the groove box. The best setup on an iPad right now is arguably Loopy Pro with an Akai APC40 MKII or Novation Launchpad, adding a midi keyboard if desired. Loopy Pro gives a completely customizable mixer/UI setup (with MIDI/audio looping and clip launching), and you can run the entire show from MIDI hardware without touching the iPad screen with sweaty fingers. For people moving "out of the groove box" (attaching things to their hardware groove boxes), an iPad should be considered more often. I mention this primarily because of the goal in the video of doing the music composition and sound design on the go away from the hardware groove box. If the groove box is your iPad, you can do the design using the touch screen, then hook up the MIDI controllers for finishing the composition, practicing, and the live gig. There are so many ways to achieve a musical result. The iPad is far too often overlooked for a variety of uses, simple or complex. Thanks for this different content, Loopop! Very informative. I hope you can do more "full setup" videos like this.
Great video! I use a Maschine+ fed into an Sp404 MK2. I want the flexibility of being able to load the projects individually to play the instruments or drums and then use the SP404 for master effects and to play interlude tracks while I’m loading the next project in Maschine+.
Thanks very much! I actually toyed with that idea at some point (I mean actually put it at the end of the chain) but preferred to keep the setup smaller. It's a great pairing though
I have a question about lock states, I get how they work and it's pretty great, but not sure my workflow with them is optimised yet lol Am I right in thinking it's probably best to set up lock states when you've pretty much finished the track? Because, at least the way I've been doing it, you end up changing things or adding plugins, etc, and forgetting to update each lock state individually.... Otherwise I might be mixing drums, etc, adding an effect to one state, and it turns out it's now also on in another state where I didn't want it to be.... So it's a constant game of updating each lock state as I go, which feels a bit hard to keep track of over time, or maybe I'm approaching it all wrong haha that wouldn't surprise me.. Any advise glady accepted :)
I don't think there's a right or wrong way to use them - personally, I use them as an undo to a specific place in the sound design phase, and then as mini scenes in a performance
@@loopop Yeah the idea of using it as a quick undo is something I need to experiment with more, that's a great idea.... I've been using it just to create scenes so far (just need to keep track of changes that might, or might not update to those scenes idk I feel like I'm doing something wrong but.. yknow, usually get there in the end :) Pretty dope feature though. Great tracks at the start of your video here btw (the little live part). Very nice
Have you considered the Circuit Tracks instead of the Launchpad? Pros include more knobs (to your point about maximum knobs) and a degree of fallback redundancy if the Maschine crashes. Cons, it's bigger and you'd probably have to put the H90 (or whatever) below it due to the cabling. It's slick how the Launchpad cable cozies in there. Lastly, if you were to swap out the Sirin and micro keys for some integral unit from your arsenal what would you pick?
crap my answer got deleted so I'm re-creating... Tracks would be a good option, I didn't consider it! I needed to have a MIDI keyboard for M+ so I wouldn't consider an integrated unit. I wouldn't swap Sirin because I love the way it sounds and is controlled, but if I had to consider alternatives Synth Pro X, a Volca or Roland S-2 come to mind - I'm sure there are others...
I dumped the Mashine+ for the Akai Force because of its instability, no transition features, and proprietary BS... The Maschine instruments and pads are better, but that's where it ends... The Force blows it out of the water in every other way...
Hey there, I know this is an old video but I'm looking for a computer free setup with something like this or the Akai force/MPC live. I'm really interested in the Maschine specially since I already have Komplete. The problem is a lot of reviewers say the Maschine crashes a lot. Does this happen in your experience ?
It did when it first came out, but now not for me. I may have a workflow that doesn't trigger crashes, so your mileage may vary. It's best if you can buy it where you can return it if it doesn't work out for what you're trying to do. Not that most NI content doesn't work on the standalone version
thanks for the in depth review! don’t you find the limited amount of outputs confusing, or maybe have you found a way around it? do you send just LR to the sound guy when you perform? there are not many interfaces with lots of outputs, and maschine doesn’t seem to properly work with majority of them, but then again NI haven’t release any of their own interfaces to cover multi output scenario. thanks again for your work
you're welcome! yes, I routed everything through Maschine and sent the output to the sound desk. I haven't tested the reliability of third party interfaces - NI have their own that's suppose to work well if you need a few more outputs
which midi codes are capable to change scenes seen @8:27 with the launchpad. is it C-2 C#-2 etc? What settings have to be set on maschine+, just midi receive all channels?
I'm considering buying the Maschine Plus as a new brain for a dawless set up, however, I read somewhere that you can't easily program time signature and tempo changes into a project. If you have a set number of songs in one project on the Maschine Plus and they're all in different tempos and some not in 4/4 how would you switch between these? thanks
If you had to choose between MPC Live and Force which would you choose. Would you use it as mixer with an external audio interface and synths. That’s what I’m experimenting with.
@@loopop I’m experimenting with the Force too. I sold a Live II and bought the Force. It seems a better live option and I’ve seen MADIS use it, but not as a mixer for external gear. I’m trying that with its ability to expand its IO using a class compliant audio interface.
Probably not - I'm a backup freak... for me the ability to just run a project off my laptop in case of a disaster is important, plus there are features in Maschine like synths, macros and the clip grid that I find really useful
Hey. You are one of my last patreons. You may not realize this, but your kindness shows through in your reviews. As to my live sets, I opt to make as many things as independent as possible. I use an octatrack to grab 4 bars for transisitions. The less dependency between devices, the better.
Thanks and crap! I forgot to mention it, yes I absolutely did - it has plenty of hands-on controls and sounds and would do great, but I really needed to work on the project on the road with my laptop
The main CON not mentioned... NI user support is a total deal breaker. It’s been broken for years! Might be the worst in the industry. Stay away from Native Instruments.
They never happened after hours and days of use in preparation for the show. Actually, if throughout the process it had crashed even once while practicing, I would never have risked taking it on stage.
@@loopop Good to hear. I wonder why mine sucks. Everybody I know has that problem to some degree. It usually always happens when I load user samplers or Massive and FM8 Presets. I hope it is getting more solid. It took quite a while!
If this performance was you "constrained" by brain choice, I would love to see "beast unleashed" with the $700 baseline M1 Macbook Air and Push 2. It's interesting that pretty much Maschine+ and the Akais (and arguably the Elektrons) are computers in a different form factor, but it's seeing an open laptop that seems to trigger some people. Still, if you dont have the talent and knowledge you can have 100 laptops and it wont make a difference. BTW, great performance in the Patreon video, I hope the venue sound system was up to the challenge.
Thanks for the kind words about the performance and indeed the venue kicked ass. BTW no I didn't feel constrained at all, I didn't mean to imply that, so there's not much beast beyond this ;) but I would certainly have liked to have a few generative MIDI style effects to have some more improvised fun (indeed with a mac and push 2 that would work well). Also, I could have easily hidden a laptop so as not to trigger anyone, but it's nice to have that one less thing to worry about.
Great performance, very musical and creative! If you were to use Ableton Live + Push 2, how would you switch between songs? The only hack I can thing of is by doing a round-robin between two Live instances, where you load a new song in the secondary instance while the main one is playing and then switching roles. I saw performers that resample some tracks into audio clips and place them in scenes, keeping a bare minimal set of live plugins for live control - these are mostly workarounds. Hardware latency is another limitation I have with Live when syncing external gear, especially when reaching high CPU for plugins and effects. Finally, unless I am missing something here, while Push 2 is great for controlling a specific track, it quite sucks as a controller for multiple tracks' and plugins parameters, and the screen is totally useless when in pure midi controller mode. I would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks very much for the kind words! I haven't done it yes, but I actually plan to "convert" this set to Live just to see how it would work for a video coming soon... as I did here, I would not use two instances or two projects, I'd just keep everything as one long project, with a few scenes per song, just like I did here, one on top of the other. For song transitions, I'd either just stop and restart if I didn't mind a pause between songs, or prepare "transition scenes". Live lets you set BPM per scene too which would save me a step here. Too bad there are no locks though! I think there's a max for live script that does it. As far as controlling multiple parameters in multiple tracks at the same time, that's another thing I need to give some thought to, but worst case I'd use a MIDI loopback... kind of hacky but should work!
All the issues you pointed out, the extended reboot time - and yeah, actually just thinking I'm surprised it doesn't have a cloud wifi sync. For what is essentially a $750 difference between this and the MK3, I'm not sure the Maschine+ is worth it at all. I'm glad I went with the Mk3. I'd rather take around a small laptop.
TOTALLY confused when you hit shift and swapped "banks" at 10:00 - what is that mode? I've never heard or seen it anywhere, and I certainly can't access it by hitting shift in mixer/pad mode.
for us the limitation was the "no program change" in midi patterns, which means we had to use one instance of Massive for each sound we needed, Same for the Minitaur, we had to manually change presets (which is not so easy in a dark club). So we gave up after we realised the CPU was saturated after a few instances of Massive, If there was a program change on the virtual instruments and we could use only 2 instances of the plug in thru the whole set, that would solve the issue. Our set is 20 different tracks, so it was impossible. if the set is 3 to 5 tracks, it should be possible to use it live
@@dvdny definitely, but the point was a "no computer" set. that said, Maschine+ sounds FANTASTIC and we use it a lot in the studio. We didn´t totally give up at bringing in on stage, we might use a Force for all "Ableton live" replacement (midi, synths...) and Maschine+ for drums only
I believe program changes are stored and transmitted in the Maschine Lock States. So if you use those, to flick through your scenes, you can control the program changes appropriately with your external synths or internal VST’s like Massive
@@schmapps1 we were actually in touch with the great people at NI (as we got a sponsor from them), we talked with the product managers and we couldn´t find a solution. The issue was left "we know the issue, wait for a further update"...still waiting.
wait, you have a Force? I'd love to see one of your signature deep dives (unmediated by company reps) now that it's fully baked (3.2) with features. plus, you've made me reconsider Maschine, a box I'd dismissed long ago.
The M2 Mac Mini due to be released in March + Ableton Push 2 and Babyface Pro FS, would make for an ideal zero latency live setup. Ableton has been rock solid on my M1 Pro MBP - with the exception of only a couple native plugins being too crash prone to use, (sadly, Korg OPSIX and Modwave.). I stick to all native AU plugins , loading tracks full of UH/E, Arturia, Omnisphere synths , Soundtoys, Fabfilter , etc - and the laptop doesn’t even break a sweat. Paired with the Babyface, it’s been a dream.
Loopop face reveal! /Internet explodes - okay synthinternet anyways :)/ Excellent stuff! Reminds me while I originally liked the Mk3 controller and why it deserves more attention as a brain even at home in the studio or bedroom. Great overall lesson to evaluate the gear you have and really try to make it work for you - versus always chasing the latest and greatest.
i am a 3+ years Mk3 user and it stopped working with my laptop, that i’ve bought specifically for live shows, that i play bunch of with artists i produce. i hope the + will be a usable followup, because i really don’t want to switch to akai. the maschine production workflow is unmatched for me
What a great video. Couldn’t agree more with your choices, and in fact couldn’t choose between the Maschine+ and Deluge, so I use both. I switch between them, DJ style. ua-cam.com/video/i11VDq-lwlA/v-deo.html
Thanks for useful info. Am trying to use it as a live set mpc type thing, mainly using it as a drum machine that sends tempo to external machines. I just don't understand if you can save tempo parameters to groups? So if for example if I have assigned a group to be one 'song' in my set, I want it to have a certain BPM and when I change group for my next song I want that to have another BPM. When I am googling it it sort of seems like that is impossible? Is there any way at all to save bpm to separate songs or tracks in some way? Seems like you might know if anyone. Thanks in advance. Pierre
Nice to put a face to the hands. Love animals and synthesizers.
These kinds of extensive tutorials are very valuable.Thanks a lot!
Now this is kool. Love performance material... very kool to see some stuff and also getting out there and doing it! Like you said "getting out of the comfort zone" Super cool man! Cheers! 🔥👊🧡👍🔥
Thanks very much!
Your reviews are now pretty much industry-standard and expected for any major synth release. This sort of video gives them additional weight because finishing music is much harder than noodling an example for a review. Even more so if the music ends up being good. And even harder if you are performing live. So kudos! I loved this 🤘🏻
Thanks very much for taking the time to write :) 🙌🏻🙏🏻
This is great! It came at the perfect time. I've also recently been trying to decide on a groovebox for live performance. I'd narrowed it down to the Deluge and the Maschine+. The fact that the Deluge is still receiving such strong support has sold me on it.
The new screen on the Deluge will help a lot for live use, its pretty stressful to find things on the fly on the old one. My solution was to use a performance-specific SD card but that is kind of a pain in the ass.
I have a Deluge and love it's sequencing abilities. I had the Maschine Plus too, but I couldn't figure out how to prepare/arm a sequence to end naturally at the end of its chosen bar length; rather, I had to stop or mute them, which was always too jarring.
I returned it because of this and also due to the CPU problem (very, very real unfortunately).
But I'd perhaps get another if I knew how to prepare a sequence to stop naturally without hitting STOP/MUTE.
I recently started doing sets after about 2 years in Batcave mode. And after my first set I immed cut out 1/2 my Hardware & pared down to one synth , circuit tracks, an old MacBook Air, mini fuse 2, Launchpad Mini, and launch key Mini mk3. And a guitar. I still feel like it's too much but my home studio is just not something I want to bring out, let alone set up and break down on a stage before or after other artists lol. Wish I could be there to see your performance and thanks for the helpful info on maschine!
Thanks very much and hopefully one day!
@@loopop if you want to perform in Portland OR we could totally set something up with promoters! 😀
Thanks and noted!
@@djofortunato5799 Ditto on Portland!
mate, big fan of the channel, and funny enough, I am doing something similar, having the Maschine+ as the big boss, with Cycles being MIDI controlled by a Minilab 3 (so I can use the faders for Cycles tracks) but running audio into Maschine so I can use FX (especially sidechain and filter). Also have a Cobalt 8x as my main keyboard in the setup. Now it's just the balls to start making some videos (lol). You're an inspiration, bud.
how did you connect the minilab to the maschine? and how you teach the faders to it?
Great analysis! And so rare. Few people are in your position, with such a range of gear to choose from. Like many others here, I would love to hear your whole set. And hit me up if you ever come to Ireland.
Thanks very much! Right now the set is only available on Patreon, but it's at the $1 and if you don't like it I'm happy to issue a refund
Great video as always! I use Maschine plus in my live sets too. It has been great. I think it's highly under rated.
Do you know the Maschine Jam will come back with a new version?
Deluge is still great for live lol but there we go. Are you going to get the OLED for it??
For sure it's great and yes I will!
Wow. Live sets - the most useful content to me. Thank you 🫶
Curious about Hapax not making the cut for consideration - no onboard synths the deal breaker?
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Hi . I came across this video of his due to a problem and I don't take advantage of his vast experience in case he has a moment to advise me. I have a problem with komplete kontrol mkII. Maschine window and daw job 2; everything up to date including komplete kontrol software with Native access. Everything works except for one "small" detail: the keyboard doesn't play the loaded sounds, and it doesn't seem to send midi signals to the computer. So all the functions (load sounds, mixer, channel selection, play, stop, ... etc go and work the daw) but the keys don't play or record any sound or track.
I reloaded the daw and also the diel kontrol software but nothing.
In the "controller" dropdown of Maschine 2 kontrol mk2 it is regularly selected, however I realized that if I go to the preferences in the midi setting where I have to select input or output device, in fact, I don't see any device to select.
In short, there is something wrong and it seems by deduction both in the operating systems also because I have always connected via USB kontrol mk2 to maschine plus in standalone mode everything works and plays as well; while with maschine plus in controller mode it doesn't work anymore.
Can you give me some pointers?
I really thank you. Louis
Sorry ....I work with computer window and daw maschine 2......
why my machine + that often crack down or freeze while loading a file ?some one can help? also with the cpu ... is sad, always so high
Are you on the newest Firmware Update? CPU and audio Lag was fixed for me on the newest Update.
Would Maschine+ and NI-S88 compliment each other?
they should work together but I don't have one so I've not tried it
Im really debating between maschine plus, mpc one, or even roland mc707 for a groovebox to compose and sketch out songs. I make everything from psytrance to pop music. What do you recommend?
Get whatever will inspire you to create. The MC707 is more of as closed system that's easier to use, MPC One and Maschine+ are more open and can do more, but more complex
this thing that deluge doesn't work or export tracks through USB port is totatlly Killing me ____ and yes Machine Plus seams the fan of all for controlling it all
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Face reveal!
How lame... no one has chops anymore
I actually think it's awesome "no chops" people can make music they and maybe some others enjoy. Feel free to link to videos of you chopping away so we can all admire your skills though
@@loopop The ones with the most to say, usually have the least to show.
It's a pleasant surprise finding out that you're actually putting your superpowers to work in the real world! I've always enjoyed the musicality of your reviews. I don't go to live shows anymore but if I knew you were playing, I'd have to see it. You're a musical force.
Thanks for taking the time to write - it means a lot - hopefully one day!
Love it! Thanks for giving some insight into how you build a live performance. I totally agree we are spoiled for choice, and it always amazes me how each person mixes and matches gear to make their own unique sound and performance. Great content (as always)!
Thanks very much!
what a coincidence! I was not even a week ago in the same situation with the same choice of grooveboxes and I had exactly the same thoughts as you! It's good to see only a few days later this video as confirmation - especially from someone I appreciate very much.
Thanks, and yes it was a tough choice!
My issue is crashing during project switches. Have to say with a much more expensive SD card its been a lot better though.
Brilliant ! I am considering using the Maschine as a live brain too, still learning all the possibilities, this video really helps!
I love that there's so many ways we can address these puzzles of how to make everything work. Nicely done.
Holy crap you have a face?! Never thought I’d see it. :)
Excellent video. I just ordered a Maschine plus finally. About 3 years late to the party but ive been wanting one for a long time. This video helped reduce my buyer's remorse. 😅
I think anything can be used for live sets, it all depends on the person's skillset, also people are wired differently, so what works for some might not work for others.
True
@@loopop Good to see the body and face behind the hands, when people have poked fun at you for just being hands, here you are proving that you are so much more.
Congrats, and keep em coming!!!
Akai Force has its own version of Lock, called Snapshot. Has had it for some time now. I much prefer Force workflow over Maschine+, and plug-in limit aside - it’s a far better machine IMHO.
True, though it's only one snapshot per scene if I'm not mistaken, so it wouldn't work as per the way it did here for multiple transitions in a scene. That said, Force is awesome and if it wasn't for the 8 plugin limit you might have been seeing it here!
@@loopop - for multiple transitions a Scene, you just copy/paste your Scene and save your new Snapshot - yes, you’d have to switch to the new Scene for the unique Snapshot, but functionally your end result would be the same as Lock on Maschine+. But yeah - that 8 plug-in limit. I’m afraid Force (and MPC) current SoC is showing it’s age.
@@EnochLight true and good workaround!
I'm new to your channel and new subscriber. I'm still trying to learn how to use my MASCHINE Jam as I purchased som years ago and never learned how to use it. I see these new ones out in production. Very nice. I'm trying to get back to the studio to make some music. Nice video.
You are the VaatiVidya of synth-heads and electronic music. Your information has been so clean and easy to follow you earned a sub before I even bought any of my stuff and because of you and your tutorials I ended up buying a Beatstep pro and Keystep37. Thank you.
Reviewed this once again, very nice walkthrough with some great ideas and insights for using the M+ for live performance 👍🏻 So frustrating to see that NI still didn’t improved some of the mentioned cons, especially where it comes to transferring projects or using wifi for it. Also, they still didn’t fix some of the issues with for instance the audio interface compatibility. Such a great device, but Akai moves so much faster. Hopefully they will keep up with MPC3 already in public beta and Maschine 3 still in the works; with the M+ even not on par with the latest release of the desktop version…
Indeed hopefully NI continues investing in M/M+, however, there are still things Maschine can do that MPC can't - like clip launching and morphs, but the gap is getting narrower and certainly many things MPC can do that Maschine can't
@@loopop absolutely, that’s why I’m seriously considering the Akai Live 2 next to the M+. But first I’ll wait for the Maschine 3 software beta to see what’s in store, and what features COULD make their way into the Maschine+ standalone (but at this point NI really has to regain my trust, so disappointed in their behavior as a company and brand). And with the MPC3 software already in public beta (first on standalone, one of the big Pros of Akai’s approach!), it also seems logical to me that MPC Live MK3 is the first device that could / should be upgraded. Until then, Maschine Plus it is.
Holy crap! you are real person with a face 😮
in case you wish to make fast changes in multiple tracks at once, I'd recommend APC 40 + ableton. you can midimap the faders to 'wash out' tracks and easily return to full mix by moving multiple faders
My takeaway from this is if I was going to do a live set I'd just take one force and play an MP3 file and maybe one of my other synths while I was loading up another project. If that went better than my dreams of playing live then I'd get a second force.
I think it's great having 25 different sound generators in a studio but live. I think I just want maximum 2units.
And look after your ears. Don't go overboard on volume. You can get quite cheap amps that can blast your eardrums these days, but you only get one set of eardrums. They're not replaceable.
I have a Maschine plus, and I have lightly performed live with it. It works fine although you might run into bugs and CPU issues as said in the video. It works with MIDI like a charm, and I would defiantly recommend it.
I think that another super power of Maschine is that you can change a scene while it's playing, without having to wait for it to end, for the second one to kick in. This is game changer in a live set (I never owned any of the other sequencers you mentioned so I am not sure if they can do that as well)
Hey bud. I had Tue Maschine Plus but I found I couldn't use it live precisely because I couldn't (or possibly didn't understand how) 'arm' a scene/sequence to end at the end of its natural bar length.
The only thing I could do was either mute or stop a sequence, which doesn't lend itself to a smooth workflow.
As a result I returned it (also due to the horrible CPU issue).
But I'd reconsider if there was a way to start and end scenes/sequences in this way.
I also have a Deluge, which has a superb sequencer, and does precisely this, so it's a breeze in live performance
@@JackAcidOn M+, you hit shift & Grid, which takes you to the choices between how you want Scenes and timing changes to happen.... Super easy and powerful feature, and if you add Maschine Jam, you can change Scenes on the Jam while staying on mixer screens and others on the M+ ITself.... Once again, extremely powerful in live use 🤙🌌
Just swapped my MPC live for a Maschine plus so your Video is perfect on time for me. Thx for that.
My "brain" ist the Akai force. The Mic pre Amps and the pad Layout pulled the Trigger. Bur Love to have Maschine as an addition for Beat programming.
Loved this video. I was so happy with my progress on the M+ this video made me feel like a baby trying walk. This is the best advertising for NI M+.
Thanks very much! Not meant as an ad but they did a great job with this for sure
the sirin is never coming down in price 🤣
Great video, thanks! I`ve been developing a live set and have been considering the same options. Maschine+ kinda seems like a hassle, Akais offerings all seem unstable and buggy and the others just arent powerful enoughfor my use. So a computer with Ableton Live, a few synths and controllers it is I guess…
I honestly don’t see the big deal of lugging around a MacBook and an audio interface. That being said, I like that this device is a bit more powerful. I do think that the standalone nature of this device is a bit overstated. If you really like the idea of taking this everywhere and sampling or performing, is it really all that much more encumbering to bring an m1 and an audio interface? At the very most it’s just a minor convenience and I don’t see it being worth double the price.
another advantage of a computer+interface is that you can use plugins on your computer. for me personally I already had the Maschine+, a show (for me at least) is a stressful situation so the less gear the better, which is why I preferred it
MacBook doesn’t provide tactile memory. You need to connect external gear (midi controller) to get tactile interface. M+ provide everything you need for it 🤷♂️
force mention! lol (with 3.2.1 it seems as secure and full featured as ever if there was anytime for a walkthrough 🙏🏽)
It's cool to see M+ "won", was handy, and your crafty use of it!
I really learned to hate the Akai Force in the last few weeks. Not only is there a limit of the plugins, but it is also full of bugs. E.g. with the latest update, Midi Map won't work any more, external audio interface produces glitches, and it is low on memory pretty fast. Also, until the most recent update you could not even swap tracks and had to work around with endless copy/past/delete but the update caused other malfunctions. No computer access to the internal SSD, no way to do a factory reset by yourself. The force has good hardware, but the software is terrible, also the menu structure is super weird. Decided to accept a macbook on stage and went with Ableton like in the good old days...
The Machine+ looks like the best of both worlds, have a computer interface to go into detail as much as you want and then "lock" it on the machine itself.
Great job. I specifically like the idea of one project and using the different banks for each song on the Maschine+.
I think none of these you can actually make huge and full of melodies / complexity because 1) - the sequencer limitations 2) - the amount of plugins you really need to use and how you access those modulations ...and many other problems....Its just a cool all in one machine - if you decided to create and finish the entire track on this....its way harder and limited by using a DAW + external gear
I love the ergonomic's of the maschine+. That said, It's a bit disappointing compared to the MPC Live/Live 2 (Akai OS bugs aside).
Oh. In my mind, for some years now, you were two floating arms without a body.😂
I am, I just borrowed that one for the show
@@loopop Nice to see you 🙂
How would new Push 3 standalone enter in this comparison now? Any shortcomings vs Maschine+ for this kind of setup?
You can workaround the MPC plugin limit by saving your custom preset and auto mating a change to that preset in another sequence within the save plugin instance.
is it possible to just make a preset change/switch?
This was great!
It was awesome to finally see your face, and also to know your music is being heard live..
All throughout the video I couldn’t stop wondering what would it be like to have the Roland sp404 mk2 as a brain in such live performance setup
Thanks very much! Since I really needed synths I didn't consider it, but I did toy with including the SP404 MK2 here as an end-of-chain processor/fx/transition tool. Might do it at some point!
@@loopop my live rig is just an SP404MK2 (I sample from the synths in my studio and field recordings) and it’s midi sequenced by a digitone which provides all my synth layers. The polyphonic midi channels on the digitone really empower you to make the most of the 404s capabilities!
@@Screenshot1015 nice! I will explore that at some point!
@@loopop can’t it receive audio from synths or summing device?🤔
@@RamRevivo i’m not sure which you mean by it, but both can receive and process incoming audio
A great accessory to add synths, or even FX, to a Force, MPC or other groovebox is an iPad (or iPhone). Great for overcoming the 8 instrument limit on the MPC/Force. The synths and FX on an iPad are excellent. With a standards compliant audio interface, you get up to 32 channels in/out, plenty for routing sends or synths on separate channels (e.g. if using an external mixer), or the iPad can be the mixer for your setup (using AUM, Loopy Pro, Beatmaker 3, Drambo, etc.).
Or just use the iPad as the groove box. The best setup on an iPad right now is arguably Loopy Pro with an Akai APC40 MKII or Novation Launchpad, adding a midi keyboard if desired. Loopy Pro gives a completely customizable mixer/UI setup (with MIDI/audio looping and clip launching), and you can run the entire show from MIDI hardware without touching the iPad screen with sweaty fingers. For people moving "out of the groove box" (attaching things to their hardware groove boxes), an iPad should be considered more often.
I mention this primarily because of the goal in the video of doing the music composition and sound design on the go away from the hardware groove box. If the groove box is your iPad, you can do the design using the touch screen, then hook up the MIDI controllers for finishing the composition, practicing, and the live gig.
There are so many ways to achieve a musical result. The iPad is far too often overlooked for a variety of uses, simple or complex.
Thanks for this different content, Loopop! Very informative. I hope you can do more "full setup" videos like this.
Wow the great Loopop is finally revealed his face. It’s like Batman has finally been discovered and is anonymous no more….😊lol
With a bit of jiggery pockery you can bypass the 8 plugin and audio track limit on the Mpc.😉
Great video! I use a Maschine+ fed into an Sp404 MK2. I want the flexibility of being able to load the projects individually to play the instruments or drums and then use the SP404 for master effects and to play interlude tracks while I’m loading the next project in Maschine+.
Thanks very much! I actually toyed with that idea at some point (I mean actually put it at the end of the chain) but preferred to keep the setup smaller. It's a great pairing though
Wait, I thought you were just a pair of talented hands, but you actually have a full body! Mind blown!
I have a question about lock states, I get how they work and it's pretty great, but not sure my workflow with them is optimised yet lol
Am I right in thinking it's probably best to set up lock states when you've pretty much finished the track?
Because, at least the way I've been doing it, you end up changing things or adding plugins, etc, and forgetting to update each lock state individually.... Otherwise I might be mixing drums, etc, adding an effect to one state, and it turns out it's now also on in another state where I didn't want it to be.... So it's a constant game of updating each lock state as I go, which feels a bit hard to keep track of over time, or maybe I'm approaching it all wrong haha that wouldn't surprise me..
Any advise glady accepted :)
I don't think there's a right or wrong way to use them - personally, I use them as an undo to a specific place in the sound design phase, and then as mini scenes in a performance
@@loopop Yeah the idea of using it as a quick undo is something I need to experiment with more, that's a great idea.... I've been using it just to create scenes so far (just need to keep track of changes that might, or might not update to those scenes idk I feel like I'm doing something wrong but.. yknow, usually get there in the end :)
Pretty dope feature though.
Great tracks at the start of your video here btw (the little live part). Very nice
@@loopop Cheers for the reply, enjoy your videos a lot. Big ups!
by the way maschine jam is not able to lauch scenes on its matrix, only in linear fashion of 8 scenes on the top bottom row.
Have you considered the Circuit Tracks instead of the Launchpad?
Pros include more knobs (to your point about maximum knobs) and a degree of fallback redundancy if the Maschine crashes. Cons, it's bigger and you'd probably have to put the H90 (or whatever) below it due to the cabling. It's slick how the Launchpad cable cozies in there.
Lastly, if you were to swap out the Sirin and micro keys for some integral unit from your arsenal what would you pick?
crap my answer got deleted so I'm re-creating... Tracks would be a good option, I didn't consider it! I needed to have a MIDI keyboard for M+ so I wouldn't consider an integrated unit. I wouldn't swap Sirin because I love the way it sounds and is controlled, but if I had to consider alternatives Synth Pro X, a Volca or Roland S-2 come to mind - I'm sure there are others...
You are a beautiful Human Being, full of waves ^__^
i do not like Patterns only can be retriggered via scenes not as an individual pattern.
I dumped the Mashine+ for the Akai Force because of its instability, no transition features, and proprietary BS... The Maschine instruments and pads are better, but that's where it ends... The Force blows it out of the water in every other way...
Do you mean 'transition features' as in, it's hard to transition from song to song?
I think Fred already answered this question emphatically yes.
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Hey there, I know this is an old video but I'm looking for a computer free setup with something like this or the Akai force/MPC live. I'm really interested in the Maschine specially since I already have Komplete. The problem is a lot of reviewers say the Maschine crashes a lot. Does this happen in your experience ?
It did when it first came out, but now not for me. I may have a workflow that doesn't trigger crashes, so your mileage may vary. It's best if you can buy it where you can return it if it doesn't work out for what you're trying to do. Not that most NI content doesn't work on the standalone version
thanks for the in depth review! don’t you find the limited amount of outputs confusing, or maybe have you found a way around it? do you send just LR to the sound guy when you perform? there are not many interfaces with lots of outputs, and maschine doesn’t seem to properly work with majority of them, but then again NI haven’t release any of their own interfaces to cover multi output scenario. thanks again for your work
you're welcome! yes, I routed everything through Maschine and sent the output to the sound desk. I haven't tested the reliability of third party interfaces - NI have their own that's suppose to work well if you need a few more outputs
which midi codes are capable to change scenes seen @8:27 with the launchpad. is it C-2 C#-2 etc? What settings have to be set on maschine+, just midi receive all channels?
yes it's notes - I don't remember by heart which ones, but it's in the manual
not every controller can send c-2
The Ni forum says its not possible :-))) The manual says nothing about scene midi note allocation.@@loopop
i use a maschine JaM connected to maschine+, that does the job more than any launchpad.
@@lwpweb I assure you I didn’t fake it
I'm considering buying the Maschine Plus as a new brain for a dawless set up, however, I read somewhere that you can't easily program time signature and tempo changes into a project. If you have a set number of songs in one project on the Maschine Plus and they're all in different tempos and some not in 4/4 how would you switch between these? thanks
Indeed I don't know if that's possible, but perhaps reach out to NI tech support/forums
If you had to choose between MPC Live and Force which would you choose. Would you use it as mixer with an external audio interface and synths. That’s what I’m experimenting with.
Personally, I prefer the clip launching and 8x8 grid of Force
@@loopop I’m experimenting with the Force too. I sold a Live II and bought the Force. It seems a better live option and I’ve seen MADIS use it, but not as a mixer for external gear. I’m trying that with its ability to expand its IO using a class compliant audio interface.
Maschine plus gets such a bad reviews , its pro level equipment, and now cheaper , plus free plugins ❤
I don’t think it got a bad review here….
@@loopop whoops i mean other reviews , your one of the few trusted by many ✌🏻
If you were to remake this video today, would you potentially choose the Digitakt 2?
Probably not - I'm a backup freak... for me the ability to just run a project off my laptop in case of a disaster is important, plus there are features in Maschine like synths, macros and the clip grid that I find really useful
Hey. You are one of my last patreons. You may not realize this, but your kindness shows through in your reviews. As to my live sets, I opt to make as many things as independent as possible. I use an octatrack to grab 4 bars for transisitions. The less dependency between devices, the better.
Much appreciated! and indeed an octatrack is a powerful live tool!
Wow, and this whole time I thought you were just a set of hands and a ring. How should I know?
@@danieldemayo6209 nothing changed, what you’re seeing in the video is just AI auto generated so that people aren’t alarmed to see just the hands
Awesome work! What about MC707? Did you consider it as the main brain for this set?
Thanks and crap! I forgot to mention it, yes I absolutely did - it has plenty of hands-on controls and sounds and would do great, but I really needed to work on the project on the road with my laptop
wow. love your cosmic vibe.
Finally is see more than the hands 🤣☺️
finally the video I dreamed about.makes me want to swap the mpc for m+ I came too late for your show but looking forward for next one
thanks for coming! hopefully there will be other opportunities...
The main CON not mentioned... NI user support is a total deal breaker. It’s been broken for years! Might be the worst in the industry. Stay away from Native Instruments.
RAVE ON!!!! I WANT TO BE A AN OCTAPUS!!!
I just finished the video and I can’t believe the long reset was all you mentioned. What about random crashes???
They never happened after hours and days of use in preparation for the show. Actually, if throughout the process it had crashed even once while practicing, I would never have risked taking it on stage.
@@loopop Good to hear. I wonder why mine sucks. Everybody I know has that problem to some degree. It usually always happens when I load user samplers or Massive and FM8 Presets. I hope it is getting more solid. It took quite a while!
If this performance was you "constrained" by brain choice, I would love to see "beast unleashed" with the $700 baseline M1 Macbook Air and Push 2. It's interesting that pretty much Maschine+ and the Akais (and arguably the Elektrons) are computers in a different form factor, but it's seeing an open laptop that seems to trigger some people. Still, if you dont have the talent and knowledge you can have 100 laptops and it wont make a difference. BTW, great performance in the Patreon video, I hope the venue sound system was up to the challenge.
Thanks for the kind words about the performance and indeed the venue kicked ass. BTW no I didn't feel constrained at all, I didn't mean to imply that, so there's not much beast beyond this ;) but I would certainly have liked to have a few generative MIDI style effects to have some more improvised fun (indeed with a mac and push 2 that would work well). Also, I could have easily hidden a laptop so as not to trigger anyone, but it's nice to have that one less thing to worry about.
@@loopop Great! :D Wish venues around me had better sound ;( *adds to bucketlist 'watch Loopop live'*
Great performance, very musical and creative! If you were to use Ableton Live + Push 2, how would you switch between songs? The only hack I can thing of is by doing a round-robin between two Live instances, where you load a new song in the secondary instance while the main one is playing and then switching roles. I saw performers that resample some tracks into audio clips and place them in scenes, keeping a bare minimal set of live plugins for live control - these are mostly workarounds. Hardware latency is another limitation I have with Live when syncing external gear, especially when reaching high CPU for plugins and effects. Finally, unless I am missing something here, while Push 2 is great for controlling a specific track, it quite sucks as a controller for multiple tracks' and plugins parameters, and the screen is totally useless when in pure midi controller mode. I would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks very much for the kind words! I haven't done it yes, but I actually plan to "convert" this set to Live just to see how it would work for a video coming soon... as I did here, I would not use two instances or two projects, I'd just keep everything as one long project, with a few scenes per song, just like I did here, one on top of the other. For song transitions, I'd either just stop and restart if I didn't mind a pause between songs, or prepare "transition scenes". Live lets you set BPM per scene too which would save me a step here. Too bad there are no locks though! I think there's a max for live script that does it. As far as controlling multiple parameters in multiple tracks at the same time, that's another thing I need to give some thought to, but worst case I'd use a MIDI loopback... kind of hacky but should work!
@@loopop 🙏Thanks! Looking forward to seeing the results of these experiments!
All the issues you pointed out, the extended reboot time - and yeah, actually just thinking I'm surprised it doesn't have a cloud wifi sync. For what is essentially a $750 difference between this and the MK3, I'm not sure the Maschine+ is worth it at all. I'm glad I went with the Mk3. I'd rather take around a small laptop.
I dropped my Akai Force and broke it. I've been torn between buying a new Force or trying out the Maschine+ instead.
TOTALLY confused when you hit shift and swapped "banks" at 10:00 - what is that mode? I've never heard or seen it anywhere, and I certainly can't access it by hitting shift in mixer/pad mode.
What a low key face reveal. 😂
for us the limitation was the "no program change" in midi patterns, which means we had to use one instance of Massive for each sound we needed, Same for the Minitaur, we had to manually change presets (which is not so easy in a dark club). So we gave up after we realised the CPU was saturated after a few instances of Massive, If there was a program change on the virtual instruments and we could use only 2 instances of the plug in thru the whole set, that would solve the issue. Our set is 20 different tracks, so it was impossible. if the set is 3 to 5 tracks, it should be possible to use it live
So I wonder if you would have had less of a resource issue if you used hosted Maschine with a beefy mac/PC?
@@dvdny definitely, but the point was a "no computer" set. that said, Maschine+ sounds FANTASTIC and we use it a lot in the studio. We didn´t totally give up at bringing in on stage, we might use a Force for all "Ableton live" replacement (midi, synths...) and Maschine+ for drums only
I believe program changes are stored and transmitted in the Maschine Lock States. So if you use those, to flick through your scenes, you can control the program changes appropriately with your external synths or internal VST’s like Massive
@@schmapps1 we were actually in touch with the great people at NI (as we got a sponsor from them), we talked with the product managers and we couldn´t find a solution. The issue was left "we know the issue, wait for a further update"...still waiting.
wait, you have a Force? I'd love to see one of your signature deep dives (unmediated by company reps) now that it's fully baked (3.2) with features. plus, you've made me reconsider Maschine, a box I'd dismissed long ago.
Wait... you're not just a pair of hands?!
imagine how shocked I was
The M2 Mac Mini due to be released in March + Ableton Push 2 and Babyface Pro FS, would make for an ideal zero latency live setup.
Ableton has been rock solid on my M1 Pro MBP - with the exception of only a couple native plugins being too crash prone to use, (sadly, Korg OPSIX and Modwave.). I stick to all native AU plugins , loading tracks full of UH/E, Arturia, Omnisphere synths , Soundtoys, Fabfilter , etc - and the laptop doesn’t even break a sweat. Paired with the Babyface, it’s been a dream.
I'd go to a Loopop gig gladly any day of the year.
.....and I'd take care to only watch his hands during the performance to keep the mystery. (;
how do you change from 1 track to the other within maschine?
You can load projects but that takes time. As I show in this video, in my set, they all live in one project, in different banks and scenes
Really great vid, picking up a used Maschine Plus tomorrow…14:53 sounds very Polynomial C - Aphex Twin ! ❤️
Loopop face reveal! /Internet explodes - okay synthinternet anyways :)/
Excellent stuff! Reminds me while I originally liked the Mk3 controller and why it deserves more attention as a brain even at home in the studio or bedroom.
Great overall lesson to evaluate the gear you have and really try to make it work for you - versus always chasing the latest and greatest.
i am a 3+ years Mk3 user and it stopped working with my laptop, that i’ve bought specifically for live shows, that i play bunch of with artists i produce. i hope the + will be a usable followup, because i really don’t want to switch to akai. the maschine production workflow is unmatched for me
What a great video. Couldn’t agree more with your choices, and in fact couldn’t choose between the Maschine+ and Deluge, so I use both. I switch between them, DJ style. ua-cam.com/video/i11VDq-lwlA/v-deo.html
Thanks for useful info. Am trying to use it as a live set mpc type thing, mainly using it as a drum machine that sends tempo to external machines. I just don't understand if you can save tempo parameters to groups? So if for example if I have assigned a group to be one 'song' in my set, I want it to have a certain BPM and when I change group for my next song I want that to have another BPM. When I am googling it it sort of seems like that is impossible? Is there any way at all to save bpm to separate songs or tracks in some way? Seems like you might know if anyone. Thanks in advance. Pierre