How It Sounds? Producing with MASCHINE + Internal Synths
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Hello there!
I am having a lot of fun with Native InstrumentsMaschine +. The workflow is great and I enjoy being in this realm in-between hardware and software.
In this video I will show you how easy and fast it is to create something using only internal instruments ( with the exclusion of Raum reverb effect ). I will compose a dub techno track using Bass and Poly synth, plus the Drums modules.
In the first part I will address few comments about the value of a tool like Maschine in my workflow.
Enjoy!
00:00 Introduction
02:50 Some thoughts on Maschine and producing with it
07:30 Creating a track - Drum part
11:28 The Bass and Poly synths
15:00 Using random generator
17:20 Creating a dub chord sound
25:00 Adding effects
34:00 Creating patterns and arrangements
44:00 Conclusions
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The Maschine + is a phenomenal piece of gear. I think the early bugs gave it a bad reputation; no longer an issue and it works smooth as butter!
How deep is the randomization function? Can it randomize anything? Like not only rhytm patterns but also pitch or other values?
@@333_Tarot It can randomize pitch, note placement in relation to the grid, velocity, etc. I wouldn’t say it’s incredibly deep, but deep enough for most use cases.
agreed!
I also find in the beginning once you reached 40 to 50 % it could start to crackle, now you really have to hit 100. Also keeping the same vsts in the same group makes a difference like the 1 st monark will hit 24, but the next 2 only add 10 percent. It’s like loading one instance takes a big chunk of cpu, but the next ones only need an additional small part of cpu for another instance. Also the sd card can make a big difference in overall smoothness imo. No micro sd but full size, as fast as you can afford, and either Samsung pro or SanDisk extreme for brand that I found reliable. Anyway if you watch your fx and instruments and resample here and there you can make a full song in standalone especially with a few hardware synths attached.
took a break from maschine and went back after a few years, and Maschine is and always was where its at!
I’m in the same boat right now. The 9 expansions for $99 roped me back in.
What’s truly best about the maschine is you can be away from it for years, and you don’t come back feeling like you have to relearn too much. Just wish you could record jams into the arranger view and it would be a complete beatmaking/inspiration box.
Really liking these Maschine videos - hoping to see more in the future!
yep more to come
I really like how you reflect on artist 👩🎨 perspective and not just technical details.
Always relaxing and interesting videos!
Thank you so much 😀
This is maybe the best and most inspiring Maschine + Video i‘ve ever seen. NI can’t even get Videos like that done :)
thanks! id like to do more content in the future!
Love my Maschine +. Probably the piece of hardware that I use the most out of everything. Can’t beat the workflow.
yeah love the workflow!
This is great! Next to that it sounds like you, it's also really nice to see how you do things, and your rational behind it!
thanks Mick
Such a cool video. Different genre than what I typically create, but I appreciate the workflow. It will help me a ton. Thank you.
Thanks!
I love my M+! I have to say I am blessed that I never experienced any kind of issues with my device. I think it’s a near perfect device for what it’s meant for. It’s grown on me from things that I didn’t understand at first and is the centerpiece of everything in my studio. It syncs all my external synths together tightly via MIDI. The features are amazing and the workflow is #1 in my book. I have used and started with the Akai line and had various MPC’s previously and I also used FLStudio, Cubase and Reason. The device is just solid even I stand alone mode. I would recommend it to anyone trying to find a starting point with beat production or even sound design. There are a few workaround for the CPU maxing out. Resampling is effortless. Thanks for sharing your video.
I agree and trying to use it more lately!
Brilliant !!
thanks!
Cool video! Thanks
Glad you liked it!
It’s so strange to me whenever I hear the mindset that specific gear is for a specific genre of music or shouldn’t be used for anything outside of the intended demographic of customers. I had a few people message me when I got the ISLA S2400 Drum Sampler that I “was using it wrong” because I wasn’t making hip hop. Historically though a lot of instruments ended up being used in ways they weren’t originally intended...(including the S2400 inspiration EMU SP1200). Even if you look at something like electric guitar or amplifiers ....there’s no way that the original intention had anything to do with distortion but now it’s part and parcel.
Personally I really would love to see the Maschine+ do some Orchestral compositions..l.ive been told by users that it can’t really be done....but that sounds more like a challenge rather than a rule.
More examples of using it wrong:
TB-303
TR-808
TR-909
Linndrum pitched down toms
Broken guitar amp speaker
@@milk_bathThe Rolands on this list created countless new music genres by people using them “wrong”. People in music who say you’re using something wrong don’t really get what being creative is all about.
I love mine, and with maschine jam It gives me an instant flow of creativity, I want to try it also with my new polyend play to see what I can get from there.
yes is a super fun workflow
great video. I've had the Maschine+ for a little while now, and it's really grown on me. the recent auto sample feature has been really awesome for me.
really great to see another Maschine user edits not making hip hop (no disrespect for hip hop guys, it's just not my thing). Really hope to see more Maschine videos - here, have my subscription!
Definitely more video to come!
@@OoraMusic I second this. Love to see someone with your taste and talents showing what can be done on the plus. Great vid, more please 😊
Grande Fede
Grazie!!
Hello, two quick tips to the new M+ users: if you’re downloading expansions or updating your Maschine, leave it alone. Don’t try to open a project or your M+ will get stuck. Also, either get an SD larger than 64MB or don’t fill up the 64 MB one; same thing. Since I started applying those two tips, I haven’t experienced an issue.
good points!
Great Video . New to Maschine MK3
Thanks for watching!
Its my favorite right now.
Haven't touched my mpc in months
Thanks for indepth video. Cool device. I thinking about buying maschine/mpc kinda daw "killer" to make my workflow easier and more fun ☺️
its definitely a great compromise!
@OoraMusic yes, it’s possible to put macros on the master track for performing. If you use the three buttons on the top left, you can assign a macro to master, group or sound level.Nice video! 👍
Yep I figured that after! thanks!
But you still can't record automation on the Master which is a huge bummer! Wish NI would fix that already.
@@schmapps1 I second that. Wonder why that is, it's really frustrating....
My workaround is just to send all groups to a new group (which is routed to master), then automate everything at once there.
@@DuckAlertBeats yeah. Of course, that creates its own set of problems too. Such as, not being ever able to solo a group because then it will shut off the group everything is routed too, giving you just silence
very nice, been using maschine for years now, but not really like this. I got some nice inspiration, so thank you
Glad you like it!
I just sold my M+ to buy an octatrack because of your videos! I liked, it's very powerful but it just feels like making music with a DAW. The 30 second startup time also drove me crazy. Great video my guy.
Well, Octa is my favorite music box ever , you can't go wrong!
30 seconds? I’ve timed the start up about 10 times and it’s about 20-22.
30 seconds = First-world problems
Great sound & sequence! Just a quick question (or two) can you easily change presets midway through a sequence or live set or it just one set one song like most of these devices? Might end up getting the Akai Key 37 & MIDI it to the Jupiter XM & do my program changes that way but I am curious about the Mashine+ if can do the job with external gear like changing MSB LSB PC# without the computer?
Great video! I have the maschine+ a week and i have to say it is exactly a minimal-techno box in my hands, there is no sound of hiphop😅 i think it belong to the way the player thinking and „programing“.. i have to say it became the heart of my techno rig!
Checkout the lock states for performing too, can transition the effects between states for everything at once. Also you can use sounds for effect sends, which work with macros, and can be exported. Thanks for showing your workflow sans samples
Maschine and Octatrack would be an interesting combi :)
battle of the titans!!
ever thought about the jam too? its a great sequencer and stepsequencer combo.
oh never heard about it!
Great video!! But still have some questions, specially when it comes to swing and groove settings on the sequencer. So im coming from a korg electribe, which allows yo to apply a groove to each voice independently and also apply swing to all the voices. In ableton you can apply different grooves on different midi patterns also. How does it work here? Can you apply different grooves for each group? Or for each voice? This is important for me as i'm really focused on polyrythmic kind of music and i love to play with different groove combs.
Thanks in advance😊
Just in case someone else comes here with the same question. In the Native Instruments manual they say there is only a single swing setting which applies to the whole project. So it seems like if you want to have polyrythm on your track with this device you will need to find a workaround for this. Maybe importing percussion samples with already applied grooves, playing with the fx (delays, reverbs) or with the live recording options too make it more humanized, turning quantization off so the sounds don't go exactly on grid.
Hope this helps!✌️
Just wish the M+ had a little bit more power under the hood, the CPU gets maxed a little too soon for me. Also wish NI's "Play" series of instruments was available on it. Hopefully they make an M+ Mk2; I'd buy it ASAP!
Use this as your creative limitation. You could resample some sounds so then you reduce the CPU load.
Yeah the Play series and Guitar Rig would get me to upgrade from the MK3.
Love this video. One of the few tutorials that allows you to actually follow along and copy what's being done. My issue is that when I sidechain the shaker and synth to the kick their volume gets far more reduced than in the video. Am I missing something?
Please create more of these videos!! Thanks
Thanks! Great! What about other internal sounds?
they are good, as you can expect from native stuff. more videos will come!
Wow this looks like a fantastic replacement for my Ableton Push2 controller! Nice alternative but how does it compare to the Akai MPC Live II?
I never had the chance to try an akai, so can't really say!
They are more similar than different. The MPC workflow hasn’t ever quite clicked for me, the way that Elektron boxes or even Ableton have, but there are loads of folks who sweat by it. I’d say that MPC has the edge on effects and IO, while Maschine has an edge on workflow and internal synths (which are pretty mediocre on the MPC)
Di think this could make a nice standalone for minimalist asynchronous ambient with some drones, pads, seqs, etc?
Yes. You can record clips that are totally unquantized and move them around a timeline freely.
Man how do you loop the initial pattern. I never get a count in.
Nice vid. Had you ever tried with Torso T1?
yes I have one and love it
I prefer this workflow over MPC. I think arrangement on Maschine is really good. But I think the effects and synths can be improved by adding better visualization. But new MPC stems are really a big future
Nice video. Looks like a great tool. Is the video in mono?
Not that I know of! it should be stereo....
@@OoraMusic must be my ears or my headphones... or both 😄🙏🏻
I've been on the fence with this groovebox. I think it's the best looking of them all, but would you say it's reputation for crashing has been fixed in2022?
not one crash so far!
IT's all good now, don't hesitate.... The M+ is the best box out there - and becomes a superpower if you combine with the Maschine Jam controller! 😍🤙🌌
@@darkuniversesound Awesome. Bought! 😄
Have you tried connecting your Digitakt/Syntakt to the Maschine + via USB and routing the audio tracks individually like you can with Ableton? Does this work? Would be cool if it did, using Maschine's effects on individual tracks.
I think you need overbridge for that!
Would Maschine+ and NI-S88 compliment each other?
Is it possible to integrate this with Eurorack?
depends what you want to do , for sure you can!
L’ho ordinata per fare live set , la mia idea é fare tracce intere con questa macchinetta come deck A e Deck B l’akai force. Sono in sbattimento perché ho letto brutte cose su di lei, cpu overload, crash improvvisi, sync che va a cazzum etc etc…. Ok che ho 15 gg per il reso ma rompe le balle se é na sola…. Che dici? Vado sereno?
Man how can I get them to let me try it out. You said they sent you one to try out. I really want to try one but I have no type of way until my disability clears 😢😢😢 I’m trying to gain support
Try to write them and see. If you have an history as a musician they might help!
@@OoraMusic ok
13:07
They really havent done much with this box over its life. Especially when compared to the mpc line. I had one when it was frst released and besides auto-sampling and the polysynth, there is not much else as far as updates. The octatrack is still getting updates which is insane but NI has moved on from Maschine and more into monetizing kontakt.
Not true
Still using this at all?
The CPU power is not good may be sending mine back unless they came with an upgrade for the cpu
works for me, but I guess it depends on the use
why maschine doesn't have touch screen is beyond me .. like its 2024 everything has a touch screen now and it would make workflow so much better
The problem is they called it Maschine+ giving the impression it is a better standalone version of Maschine (I do like Maschine). I think if they called it something else they’d have a much more popular product where people wouldn’t have been so up in arms about it’s limitations
Great point it’s more of a hybrid
Let me share a few thoughts as NI Maschine user from MK1 I had MK1, Mikro MK2, Mk2 and MK2 studio and MK3. While NI has heavily targeted this product range to compete with MPC line, and yes, it offers tons of sample based content, from it's inception till today it changed and evolved. While the starting premise was to be able to chop and sample, use extensively sample library (I disagree that you have to rely on Expansions - I have almost all of them, yes, they help, but I am sure you can make any style and any type of sound with Maschine core library). What I never liked about this is a new DAW that took years to get to a point where it is now, and it is still clunky and has tons of issues. NI should ve sorted that out and made better Maschine software before releasing Maschine +.
Now, as for the sounds. Lets put samples aside - Maschine has awesome drum synth modules, somewhat similar to Analog Rytm/Drumachine. With the updates, it has a mono synth very similar to 303 and poli synth that I really haven't used much, but is Juno-esque. Aside from that, you can use ANY NI synth or instrument which is..a lot. This means that you can produce music on this platform 100% without any sample, meaning, you can get any sound out of it simply via various forms of synthesis - you just made it sound like you, as far as I am following your work, my friend. My gripe with this is that essentially it is just a computer in another box, that requires DAW to work. While I am super angry at Teenage Engineering, the original OP 1 was the instrument that got me out of complex 100-track projects I was doing for clients but also started to use in my own music and allowed me to go back to the roots of recording on a 16 channel tape, or better yet, 5 channel Tascam casette recorder. Maschine + would like to harness the power of computer and be a portable instrument at the same time - I have much better experience with Polyend Play or Octatrack, or Tracker, when it comes to "one machine to take on a trip". Now, when I got the first Maschine, I wanted to use it as a hardware device - not look at the screen of a computer. However, while this was possible, but extremely hard (until crisp sscreen of MK3), because device is so computer dependant. However, as a hybrid it always has place in my studio, and it is a great controller. I would also agree with you that it doesn't matter how you made a sound as long as you made it - but I'd say that for many artists super sample focused machine is not a way to go, especially if they are heavy into modular and random/happy accidents with hardware and pedals. There is a reason we love hardware - just to be clear, i record into a DAW and master there, I am talking about creaative process. Expansions for Maschine are well tailored and suit the genres they should complement, also work with other software like Battery, but I don't see them as a must. To conclude - I would never get a +, I love Maschine as a hybrid controller but it annoys me when I have to open the DAW within the DAW (Machine within the Cubase) to integrate it all. Also love multisample feature that allows me to sample some hardware that I don't own and later move that into my Wavestate.
Very interesting reading your comments, as usual. I have been lucky to get the Maschine plus to test it and I can understand that for some user the Mk3 would be a preferable choice. The plus gives you the chance to use it as a controller too, so is best of both worlds (at a higher price, of course). About the Daw in Daw, at the moment I didn't experience any issue. I love that I can export all the tracks as wav files and just import them in Ableton. So far I did not try the plugin or standalone Maschine software. I have to say that the workflow of it is great and made me very creative in the last few weeks. I can't wait to have a proper studio to hook up my hardware synths and see how it works with them. To conclude, is a great tool to have, something different than things I had so far and might be an useful center piece. Thanks for sharing your ideas ,always appreciated!
I have so many expansions, and having Komplete 8-14 ultimate, I haven’t really checked out the maschine library since the mikro mk2 way back. However, when I got the plus, I checked out all the kits in the Maschine library, and you honestly don’t even need to buy any expansions. There is so many amazing kits and great sounds that come with it, it’s amazing.
@@heffe4257 yep my point. Expansions are cool, but you have everything you need in the factory library
@@earlsfield You really do. I thought that those samples would be cheesy or just unusable, but they’re great.
The M+ is absolutely a holy grail for a dawless creator such as myself.... Just speaking up for the dawless community, the M+ is the top 🤙🌌
I would only buy a Maschine+ IF I could use all my NI Expansions and all the Synths I have bought.
I guess sooner or later something like that will come!
@@OoraMusic Fingers crossed!
Would love to see that too. But in terms of CPU and RAM i think it wont happen on this generation of Maschine Plus. The Play Series would be dope. Hope they get that on the Plus🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
@@producedbykemp691 It’s more the fact that they are VST plug-ins and VST only run on the Windows/Max OS. You’d either have to put one of those OS’s into the Maschine+ or make a port for the OS that Maschine* uses.
I started creating patches on vsts and Autosample the results. This works surprisingly well. I also started to hook up my ipad with midi and record the sound back into Maschine+. There I have so many good synths. Additionally you can feed the Maschine Audio into the ipad and use the ipad as an extra effect device. For Resampling all these setups are crazy good.
just hate mono sound ...
sorry for that. I realized I had an issue for months with a render setting!
"As a *'Standalone'* or *'Hybrid'* , the *Maschine's Sequencer* is its *Biggest Flaw.*
The Maschine still doesn't allow *Tempo or Time-Signature Changes* - sad man.
Seriously, this is just *'Bad' & 'Incomplete' Programming* on behalf of its designers', who
all seem to *intentionally ignore* this issue.
I can now only speculate that they have gone too far in the coding that it would require a
complete SEQUENCER OVERHAUL 👈🏾
When will Maschine implement this all too common feature that all DAWS & even the MPC has(?)."
I never use that features so it doesn't bother me, but I completely understand you. As everything in the market, the perfect thing doesn't exist. Is more finding what cover your needs, and maybe Maschine is not for you. Time signature changes are hard to find in hardware sequencers too tho!