I like that Yamaha. They both sound great. Sounds like the Yamaha slots a little firmer and has a more consistent sound across the range and dynamic range of the horn. That’s something I tend to prefer in a horn. Would love to hear that Excalibur compared to a straight A5 or Benge or Besson
Never been a Schilke fan and this confirmed it. The Yamaha soumds better generally to me - but wondered about its low range - seemed not resonant or full - hard to tell.
Those are two badass horns. Two different personalities and honestly I can’t decide. The Yamaha is so creamy but the Schilke is so pure. I’d keep both. Damn.
Thanks Trent, for your awesome comparisons! Meanwhile I have the feeling, that the YAMAHA (maybe all types from them) are the most linear balanced trumpets of the main brands. I would compare this with a very linear transmitting characteristic of HiFi amplifires. But for me seems that the price for this, that they have to pay is personality in the sound dimension (by the way, I think one can observe this also at the YAMAHA pianos). The Schilkes sound varies a little bit more accross the whole range (octaves), but not much differece to the YAMAHA. Thruogh your videos, I got the impression, that the sounds and the personalities of the Adams and the Schagerls are acting on a higher level, maybe as one compares Steinway pianos with the YAMAHA pianos. Myself, I play an old ytr-6320s, but modified by JBS in Germany (Stuttgart): There's added a mouthpiece receiver, the lead pipe is fixed stiffer and with more weight to the valve block, the meterial of the bell is compressed and it's changed to a tuning bell. The results are better slotting, brighter sound and all in all more lead playing quality.
Trent. Based on my limited knowledge of both horns, a better comparison would be the Schilke B6 and the Shew as both are a step bore instrument. The Yam is over $600 less than the Schilke and comes with a case.
I don't know if I wrote before but like the Bobby Shew horn better. The sound is a little rounder. The Schilke has a little more edge than I like. You played both of the horns well in all the areas of playing. But from this comparison, I would buy the Bobby Shew horn.
Nice review man! I'm a B1 player myself. Got a lovely 2004 in gold plate that is my main horn. I recently tried the new Shew along with the the 6335RC, (have you reviewed that yet?). The Shew is the closet yet to my B1, I thought the RC was like a really good Bach 37. For me, the Shew just doesn't have enough personality. I think I'd get weary of the Shew sound quite quickly, kinda like the Strad Commercial range. I was interested in the RC and the Shew V3 so that I had a very usable backup to the B1 should the worst happen and to be honest I don't think either of the new Yamaha tpts can do much better than my current early 80's Strad 25*. I think yamaha have done great with the new issues but ultimately they left a bit of personality out of the ingredients. Schilke B1 for me! I wish I could affors a B1L too!
Well i think they both Sound really good but the i think the Yamaha sounds some Kind of Standard . There is something to the Schilke which sounds really nice altough it seems that you're fightin the Schilke a bit
Hi Trent, we love you & undertand you , the micrófono bla bla 😂 for in this vídeo B1 it s up. maybe they are not comparable because the purspuses for to be used, B1 and LA Yam. comparación its more adecuated. Thank you for your vídeos.
I don't know these instruments so perhaps I am completely wrong. The Yamaha looks nicer, sounds more compact, like it's heavier in weight, the tone is purer but has less high overtones. (good for S.O. ?) The Schilke is more traditional open, brightly resonating but still not shrill so I prefer it's tone here but perhaps in other situations it would be different.
The Shew Yamaha is a copy of a Schilke B7 model-M bore L yellow brass bell...of course Mr. Schilke collaborated w Yamaha in Japan. The B1 is much more open b/c even though it starts at a .460 it expands to a .468 with a L bell...it was Mr. Schilke's "personal" model and the guide from which all future Bb Schilke models would be based (save the S series which were Laskey's brain children) ...a better comparison would be a B6 or B7 model(s)
Thanks so much for watching! If you have an idea for another potential "Showdown" please post them here in the comments and we'll do our best to help!
Please talk about the best budget pocket trumpet available.
I just bought the new Yamaha and I am loving it. It’s going to be my ‘jazz’ horn, while my Bach 37RL will be my ‘concert band’ horn.
I like that Yamaha. They both sound great. Sounds like the Yamaha slots a little firmer and has a more consistent sound across the range and dynamic range of the horn. That’s something I tend to prefer in a horn.
Would love to hear that Excalibur compared to a straight A5 or Benge or Besson
I think we have a FB video of the Excalibur versus the Besson. I'll search the archives and re-post to YT if that's the case.
You should do a comparison between the 6310z, 8310z and the new bobby shew
buy me some and I'll test them for you ;-)
Never been a Schilke fan and this confirmed it. The Yamaha soumds better generally to me - but wondered about its low range - seemed not resonant or full - hard to tell.
Those are two badass horns. Two different personalities and honestly I can’t decide. The Yamaha is so creamy but the Schilke is so pure. I’d keep both. Damn.
Both sound great in your hands! I would say the Yamaha Shew sounds a bit richer, more compact. The Schilke is definitely brighter.
Thanks Trent, for your awesome comparisons! Meanwhile I have the feeling, that the YAMAHA (maybe all types from them) are the most linear balanced trumpets of the main brands. I would compare this with a very linear transmitting characteristic of HiFi amplifires. But for me seems that the price for this, that they have to pay is personality in the sound dimension (by the way, I think one can observe this also at the YAMAHA pianos). The Schilkes sound varies a little bit more accross the whole range (octaves), but not much differece to the YAMAHA. Thruogh your videos, I got the impression, that the sounds and the personalities of the Adams and the Schagerls are acting on a higher level, maybe as one compares Steinway pianos with the YAMAHA pianos. Myself, I play an old ytr-6320s, but modified by JBS in Germany (Stuttgart): There's added a mouthpiece receiver, the lead pipe is fixed stiffer and with more weight to the valve block, the meterial of the bell is compressed and it's changed to a tuning bell. The results are better slotting, brighter sound and all in all more lead playing quality.
I'm a Schilke fan, and I own a B4 but for me the Yam sounded cleaner and sweeter.
Both horns are great but I really dig this new Shew!
Trent. Based on my limited knowledge of both horns, a better comparison would be the Schilke B6 and the Shew as both are a step bore instrument. The Yam is over $600 less than the Schilke and comes with a case.
buy me one and I'll test them for you ;-)
I own a Schilke so I wanted that horn to be the winner here, but I really think the Yam sounded better.
I don't know if I wrote before but like the Bobby Shew horn better. The sound is a little rounder. The Schilke has a little more edge than I like. You played both of the horns well in all the areas of playing. But from this comparison, I would buy the Bobby Shew horn.
Tough call but think I prefer the Schilke on this demo.
The Yamaha sounds great, but there is just something about a Schilke that just pops for me!
Yamaha is richer ....they’re both great horns...just something about the Yamaha that’s very pleasing to the ear.
How much does the b1l go for brand new?
@@pitgroove.37_66 google can be your friend
New Bobby Shew Yam vs Adams A9 med bore please!
The Schilke has more core to the sound. The Yamaha seems to be easier to play for you.
Nice review man! I'm a B1 player myself. Got a lovely 2004 in gold plate that is my main horn. I recently tried the new Shew along with the the 6335RC, (have you reviewed that yet?). The Shew is the closet yet to my B1, I thought the RC was like a really good Bach 37. For me, the Shew just doesn't have enough personality. I think I'd get weary of the Shew sound quite quickly, kinda like the Strad Commercial range. I was interested in the RC and the Shew V3 so that I had a very usable backup to the B1 should the worst happen and to be honest I don't think either of the new Yamaha tpts can do much better than my current early 80's Strad 25*. I think yamaha have done great with the new issues but ultimately they left a bit of personality out of the ingredients. Schilke B1 for me! I wish I could affors a B1L too!
Maybe you guys could potentially make valve guards
we have some for sale at the shop!
How about the Yamaha Bobby Shew vs Blackburn Lux?
Sure send us the Blackburn and we'd be happy to record it ;-)
Which Barclay microphone do you use?
Barkley infinity
The Yamaha by far. Better core, better projection, more consistent across all registers. The Schilke wasn't even close. Just sounds thin and tinny.
Well i think they both Sound really good but the i think the Yamaha sounds some Kind of Standard .
There is something to the Schilke which sounds really nice altough it seems that you're fightin the Schilke a bit
Hi Trent, we love you & undertand you , the micrófono bla bla 😂 for in this vídeo B1 it s up. maybe they are not comparable because the purspuses for to be used, B1 and LA Yam. comparación its more adecuated. Thank you for your vídeos.
Schilke all day!
I don't know these instruments so perhaps I am completely wrong. The Yamaha looks nicer, sounds more compact, like it's heavier in weight, the tone is purer but has less high overtones. (good for S.O. ?) The Schilke is more traditional open, brightly resonating but still not shrill so I prefer it's tone here but perhaps in other situations it would be different.
The Shew Yamaha is a copy of a Schilke B7 model-M bore L yellow brass bell...of course Mr. Schilke collaborated w Yamaha in Japan. The B1 is much more open b/c even though it starts at a .460 it expands to a .468 with a L bell...it was Mr. Schilke's "personal" model and the guide from which all future Bb Schilke models would be based (save the S series which were Laskey's brain children) ...a better comparison would be a B6 or B7 model(s)
I guess you can do that comparison on your channel then.
@@austincustom woah-no disrespect intended here
@@chasefreak no worries!
Yam. Nice and easy , S.b1L carácter sin límite .
The schilke for me sounds better . More brighter sound with cleaner notes.
You can play anything but you seem more at ease with the Shew ....
Yamaha really excell
Yamaha !
Yamaha just sounded better. More centered focused cleaner sound than the schilke with the unbraced bell. Duh
Schilke always, sorry Yamaha.