The SECRET TECH Deft Abuses to COUNTER DRAVEN and Kill Lanes!

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  • Learn the OP Build and Strategy DRX Deft uses to counter Draven!
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  • @skillcapped
    @skillcapped  3 роки тому +46

    There's some seriously high IQ play in this one! Which ADC player do you think is the best at worlds so far? 🔥

  • @SomeGuyXD65
    @SomeGuyXD65 3 роки тому +172

    *Builds cloth armor first*
    "Lmao Bot troll, I'm AFK."

    • @mustaqimhadi6381
      @mustaqimhadi6381 3 роки тому +18

      New players will never know how broken 5 pot start was

    • @fengliu975
      @fengliu975 3 роки тому

      @@mustaqimhadi6381 new players will never get the thresher meme

  • @GigaLigma
    @GigaLigma 3 роки тому +8

    Why not mention more options for what to do with the cloth armor? Maybe there aren't many for Twitch, but plenty of ADCs can build death's dance, and guardian angel is always an option later into your build.

  • @jackcolinsmoko7779
    @jackcolinsmoko7779 3 роки тому +4

    I think making bronze climb in diamond in four months is possible this season I start in Iron and Im D3 now just constantly playing jungle with you’re guide and not to mention that graves jump in dragon pit lesson in one of the episode of challenger earpiece is really good and I guess maybe the best thing I love and learn is looking in top or bottom at 1:55 to see/know who leashes and where the enemy jungler starts really good content keep it up

  • @alexisdescubre
    @alexisdescubre 3 роки тому +3

    Finally another Adc guide video!!!

  • @DanteCrowlley
    @DanteCrowlley 3 роки тому +59

    *I don't try big brain builds in low elo, simple reason is they would probably say I'm trolling and start to troll the game or massive report me*

    • @bik7590
      @bik7590 3 роки тому +11

      "Deft did it look it up I swear! oh u dont know who deft is fuck"

    • @bobplaque937
      @bobplaque937 3 роки тому +10

      Just mute and/or dont' respond. Just keep making big brain plays and you'll get out of that elo. I smurf sometimes and people flame me 80% of games while I have 80% winrates

  • @Shuraig7
    @Shuraig7 3 роки тому +2

    You can also use the cloath armor for death dance

  • @dfghxdfghsdsxdhdftx803
    @dfghxdfghsdsxdhdftx803 3 роки тому

    Ty for the vod bro. Question.
    Can I do these too using aphelios?

    • @RawrlmaBear
      @RawrlmaBear 3 роки тому +3

      As long as you outscale them, playing safe and building defensive first is viable

  • @NotLerro
    @NotLerro 3 роки тому +8

    5:45 "a fairly obvious brush gank" Idk man I think it becomes obvious with experience

    • @dapperfob6194
      @dapperfob6194 3 роки тому

      minions deal more dmg than champions at low levels so it is obvious

    • @mylynguyen6512
      @mylynguyen6512 Рік тому

      Ye nobody would tank that much CS normally, so if they act a bit weird (here it was rly rly weird) then jgl is there:(

  • @riverfu889
    @riverfu889 3 роки тому +15

    I’ve been practicing refresh timing of UA-cam to leave comment at Skillcapped as soon as an upload appears. I’m getting better at it!

  • @xianyujin7521
    @xianyujin7521 3 роки тому +10

    Looks like Jackeylove has found the secret.

  • @Azirim5660
    @Azirim5660 3 роки тому +24

    Math at 1:20 is wrong. You actually do 400/0.75 so you have an effective 533 hp.

    • @settispaghetti2273
      @settispaghetti2273 3 роки тому +7

      Had to stop the video and do the calculation as well. Pretty silly mistake to make, you'd think they'd actually check their answer with a calculator before putting it in the vid.

    • @leastinformednerd
      @leastinformednerd 3 роки тому

      It’s intuitive so they thought there was no reason to check

    • @leeqq1299
      @leeqq1299 3 роки тому +1

      why are u dividing 400 by 0.75, u should be multiplying 400 by 0.25 and then add to the original 400, meaning 400+ (400*0.25)= 500. The reason is because u take -25% dmg from physical attacks, which they explain as having 25% more hp vs physical dmg, which leads to the math i just did

    • @ijuka
      @ijuka 3 роки тому

      Yep, you have an effective 533 hp, correct.

    • @ijuka
      @ijuka 3 роки тому +3

      @@leeqq1299
      No, you deal 533 physical dmg then multiply that by 0.75(-25% physical dmg reduction) and you get 400 hp. Whatever you just typed isn't mathematically sound.
      Also, taking -25% from physical attack isn't the same thing as having 25% more hp vs physical dmg, have you guys not finished high school? If you take -25% dmg from physical attacks you have ~33.33% increased hp vs physical dmg(0.75*1.3333 = 1). And now if you do it with the correct numbers(400+(400*0.3333)) you get 533 as you should.
      Learn basic maths, I think this is like 7th grade stuff.

  • @peepo19
    @peepo19 3 роки тому

    Use cloth into GA

  • @Haivexx
    @Haivexx 3 роки тому

    6:15 is it evet worth roming if u know that ure adc is going to be dived

    • @GigaLigma
      @GigaLigma 3 роки тому

      Only if you think the lane is hopeless to stay in anyway and you see an opportunity to get a worthwhile lead somewhere else, and even then, only if you're confident your ADC won't tilt from you leaving them.

    • @833Rowan
      @833Rowan 3 роки тому

      Yea I didn’t understand that he was like “pantheon knows his adc isn’t at much risk of dying so he should be roaming”
      *2 seconds later: draven gets dived and fuckin dies*
      Me: ...?

  • @WyWinner30
    @WyWinner30 3 роки тому +1

    Watching this after TL vs Suning makes me wonder if Tactical could have done something like this

    • @JustDoYourJob
      @JustDoYourJob 3 роки тому +5

      No chance. They had to respect SOfM.

    • @EMoritzxD
      @EMoritzxD 3 роки тому +1

      it was jungle dif in the bot lane not tacticals fault

  • @mundanest
    @mundanest 3 роки тому +1

    Ok, but if ever think about buying a cloth amour as ADC my entire team will ping me until the end of the game

  • @christian3666
    @christian3666 3 роки тому +4

    its not just "wait for the wave at your tower", draven would still bully you under tower with/without a jgler, you would lose more and more cs until he kills you with all that poke, only thing twitch can do is wait for a jgler or have a heavy sustain support that allows him to farm under tower. That draven was just really bad.

    • @emilianowiiland
      @emilianowiiland 3 роки тому

      Draven isnt even that good at poking, he doesnt have much range

    • @Daiyuki117
      @Daiyuki117 3 роки тому

      Yeah I'm sure the Korean Challenger Draven was just really bad

  • @khalilheisenburger7837
    @khalilheisenburger7837 3 роки тому

    i think jackeylove watched this video to punish deft on draven with senna

  • @quocthiennguyen1958
    @quocthiennguyen1958 3 роки тому

    Looks like Jackeylove watched the video lmao.

  • @jackcolinsmoko7779
    @jackcolinsmoko7779 3 роки тому

    Hello

  • @DanteCrowlley
    @DanteCrowlley 3 роки тому +3

    *Make Hector play against killing lanes as well, specially Ez vs any hyper carry with engage sup, the rule is he is not allowed to ban any ADC and he must talk with this sup to make plays, he can't mute his team*

  • @christhis9597
    @christhis9597 3 роки тому

    Cant draven panth just spam shove into tower and take plates?

  • @ekkonomic8055
    @ekkonomic8055 3 роки тому

    Rakan is DRX Keria btw xD

  • @vitaminnc6443
    @vitaminnc6443 3 роки тому

    Can somebody explain me TF is Cassio doing??? She bought lantern to begin with, then she recalls, and by the time seh recalls she has 1400 gold approximately (30cs over 6 waves), but she doesn't buy anything, THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HER????

  • @bojanlekic9830
    @bojanlekic9830 3 роки тому +1

    In low elo u don’t have jg. If u have him, he is autofilled

  • @jackcolinsmoko7779
    @jackcolinsmoko7779 3 роки тому

    I think hector is the best staff

  • @scottgill2643
    @scottgill2643 3 роки тому

    So from what I'm getting with this is that if your support is an enchanter into a kill lane, then you need to make an adaptation as adc.
    Overall, the lesson here is that "If one convention is broken, then everything is broken."

    • @GigaLigma
      @GigaLigma 3 роки тому

      Rakan's not really an enchanter though. Just because he's got a practically nonexistent heal and a tiny shield doesn't mean he's an enchanter; he's also got parts of his kit that fit being an engage/kill lane support. The whole appeal of Rakan is he's a versatile, flexible support who can adapt to the lane and be whatever he wants. Saying he somehow functioned as an enchanter in this situation is like saying Braum's an enchanter.

    • @scottgill2643
      @scottgill2643 3 роки тому

      @@GigaLigma In this situation specifically, Rakan functioned like an ape. The truth of the matter is that Rakan specifically wants to skirmish so that he can get the heal value from his Q. That wasn't possible here, and you can see that by being an engager with twitch into a kill lane, he essentially opened it up completely from draft. Twitch has a really hard time making plays before 6, so it's better that your support can stop dives from happening.

    • @GigaLigma
      @GigaLigma 3 роки тому

      @@scottgill2643 I don't disagree that he played awful. I was just saying he's not really an enchanter, because you specifically brought up enchanters in your original comment.

    • @scottgill2643
      @scottgill2643 3 роки тому

      @@GigaLigma He's an engage support when he can be, but in aggressive lanes like this one, he's an enchanter, using his abilities less to make plays and moreso to deny plays.

    • @GigaLigma
      @GigaLigma 3 роки тому

      @@scottgill2643 Again, that's like calling Braum an enchanter. I get what you're saying, but there's a difference between a defensive support and an enchanter.

  • @jamie-dempsey
    @jamie-dempsey 3 роки тому

    This might be my low elo brain but cloth armor can be built into GA.

    • @remirec
      @remirec 3 роки тому

      GA then build a randuin

    • @rufus7551
      @rufus7551 3 роки тому

      2.8k gold for a shitty 40 armor 40 dmg with only 3 min active hell no. Go randuin 4rth item best you could do vs most ad team comps :D

  • @amjadtahir45
    @amjadtahir45 3 роки тому +1

    8:53 toxic

  • @CasterMedicus
    @CasterMedicus 3 роки тому +1

    Expect the adc to be smart, good one :-)

    • @GigaLigma
      @GigaLigma 3 роки тому +2

      Actually he specifically says multiple times in the video to disregard certain things seen in this gameplay because low elo players can't be expected to play as smart or consistent as high elo ones (like when the Twitch player stays to farm alone because he knows the enemies will think his support's there, which wouldn't work in low elo where they wouldn't even consider that or care most of the time).

  • @CptApplestrudl
    @CptApplestrudl 3 роки тому

    Honestly, I feel like botlane is rather irrelevant in S10...or maybe Im doing sth wrong. (Silver 3 right now)
    My games are usually decided by the other lanes...opp or our Top/Mid /Jgl with 5 kills by 12 minutes...is often gg, no matter how botlane does.
    That and S10 supports often doing more dmg than the adcs.
    Hints and tips are welcome.

    • @korvmedmos979
      @korvmedmos979 3 роки тому

      ur definatly doing something wrong if u silver3. I am plat 4 and goes 15/4 every game and therefore climbing. Dont fking blame game when u silver

    • @korvmedmos979
      @korvmedmos979 3 роки тому

      At diamond and master it becomes more of a matter of role not fking silver

    • @CptApplestrudl
      @CptApplestrudl 3 роки тому

      @@korvmedmos979 If all you are saying is "L2P" you dont need to be a douche about it.

  • @dl--theescaper4210
    @dl--theescaper4210 3 роки тому

    This is serious.

  • @raymondsun5669
    @raymondsun5669 3 роки тому

    So, why not check out TES vs DRX. JKL played senna and destroyed deft draven

    • @siciliandragon4675
      @siciliandragon4675 3 роки тому

      Tbh... Deft's footwork during the turrent dive impressed me more than jacklove's entire game ... Senna is a good laner too bad deft found that out the hard way .

  • @jaybayer3670
    @jaybayer3670 3 роки тому

    Or riot could just not let champions like pantheons with a point and click cc in the game.

  • @nitrozeus2666
    @nitrozeus2666 3 роки тому

    This Draven was tragic

  • @ed1659
    @ed1659 3 роки тому

    1:20 my soloq Lulu: places shield on me 1s after enemies already disengaged. Or when both sides passively farm minions with 1k+ range between us.

  • @rjGuerrero2048
    @rjGuerrero2048 3 роки тому +2

    The only issue with this is that my entire map just loses and now i have no control over the outcome of the game

    • @GigaLigma
      @GigaLigma 3 роки тому +4

      Nobody has the "entire map" lose around them literally every game. Don't get me wrong, I've got shitty luck too, but even I can admit that it's maybe 60-70% of the time that the rest of the game goes bad around me, not 100%. And even then, I can carry about half the time if I pick a good champ and win my own lane. Sure, having bad luck makes the game rough to play, but if you focus on that then you won't improve.

    • @rjGuerrero2048
      @rjGuerrero2048 3 роки тому

      Snow Fox but what I am saying is obviously that doesn’t happen every game. But what do you do when you are in a losing matchup and your team is losing ? I mean I want someone to tell me the game is unwinable because it is. I find it frustrating when you say “literally every game” when I didn’t say that.

    • @GigaLigma
      @GigaLigma 3 роки тому

      @@rjGuerrero2048 I've scaled and won through good decision making alone plenty before (below diamond especially, players make so many mistakes comebacks are always possible if you have good macro). Plus, even in a losing matchup, you can often still win lane just by making better decisions or knowing your champ better.

  • @henriquejardimalvaresdasil6843
    @henriquejardimalvaresdasil6843 3 роки тому +2

    Can we say he bought the armor because twitch has the highest base hp among the adcs and wouldn't do that as an adc with low base hp like caitlyn?

    • @HakenRPG
      @HakenRPG 3 роки тому +1

      No shit, Cait doesn´t get bullied with all that range.

    • @anthonypolanc0
      @anthonypolanc0 3 роки тому

      cait wouldent get bullied tho with her high range

    • @henriquejardimalvaresdasil6843
      @henriquejardimalvaresdasil6843 3 роки тому

      @@HakenRPG caitlyn was a bad example, i meant an adc with low base hp, i just said cait because she has the lowest base hp among the ADCs

    • @henriquejardimalvaresdasil6843
      @henriquejardimalvaresdasil6843 3 роки тому

      @@anthonypolanc0 caitlyn was a bad example, i meant an adc with low base hp, i just said cait because she has the lowest base hp among the ADCs

  • @Ace___________________________
    @Ace___________________________ 3 роки тому

    oof

  • @regulareric8759
    @regulareric8759 3 роки тому

    only challenger players can adc

  • @bozy0223
    @bozy0223 3 роки тому +2

    any draven mains
    👇

  • @Yoruez1v9
    @Yoruez1v9 3 роки тому +2

    The counter to Draven is JackeyLove’s Senna xD
    Reference: check TES vs DRX latest game

    • @bozy0223
      @bozy0223 3 роки тому

      draven destroys senna lmfao

    • @Yoruez1v9
      @Yoruez1v9 3 роки тому

      @@bozy0223 you will think differently watching Deft’s Draven xd

  • @yudoball
    @yudoball 3 роки тому +5

    6:09 honestly i think roaming was a bad idea. Protecting the freeze wouldve been better to prevent scaling

    • @jasonchangdalekrule
      @jasonchangdalekrule 3 роки тому +1

      Roaming lets draven collect the solo xp, and a pantheon/elise dive top vs lulu was a free kill. it was the right play that was punished anyway.

    • @yudoball
      @yudoball 3 роки тому

      @@jasonchangdalekrule what would you rather shutdown/prevent from scaling? Enemy win condition aka twitch/ cassio or enemy "support"

  • @user-js8eh2po2j
    @user-js8eh2po2j 3 роки тому

    I am kinda sad that as a Kled main no one remembers this champ anymore

  • @shak5756
    @shak5756 3 роки тому

    I got 1.5K games on support and skill capped still takes me to school with these bot lane videos.

  • @icaroalonso
    @icaroalonso 3 роки тому

    This video has no tech. He played the laning phase according to how it should be.

    • @mohammadbilal4860
      @mohammadbilal4860 3 роки тому

      The tech is him buying Cloth Armour instead of standard starting items. Rest of the video is just how he executed the lane phase.

  • @mhmdfuad3839
    @mhmdfuad3839 3 роки тому

    notifications squad

  • @motherfuckingagorithimcomm6136
    @motherfuckingagorithimcomm6136 3 роки тому

    That was an awful time for pantheon to roam. Lucian was recalling and top was too far of a roam its very easy to anticipate a dive on draven if you do that. Disgusting advice for supports

  • @coolguy77ize1
    @coolguy77ize1 3 роки тому

    Without actual words from deft himself, it sounds like the dude is trying to explain what he thinks deft is doing and why, not explaining his actual thought process.

    • @masaboih
      @masaboih 3 роки тому +2

      Well what else whould it be, or does "analyse" equal psychic mind reading to you? And if you are challenger it is pretty obvious what he is doing as explained in the video because you know what is a smart thing to do and Deft confirms it by doing so, being one of the best players that he is...

  • @cunt7983
    @cunt7983 3 роки тому +3

    You made a guide for a very extremely rare and neiche scenario that would just not work in a solo q

  • @korvmedmos979
    @korvmedmos979 3 роки тому

    Why dont you give a draven guild instead, like ok i get u dont like him and want every draven main to fking cry but pls.

  • @alexdaniels2946
    @alexdaniels2946 3 роки тому

    second

  • @C-Handle
    @C-Handle 3 роки тому

    0:14 As a support main, I am offended. >: (

    • @Slash-XVI
      @Slash-XVI 3 роки тому

      As someone who has played both adc and support as their main role in different seasons, this sentiment seems to be shared both ways.

  • @paulomartins3150
    @paulomartins3150 3 роки тому

    first

  • @lateralusDan
    @lateralusDan 3 роки тому

    We need SOME videos on your site free to watch, as it used to be.

  • @jonathanrandle1671
    @jonathanrandle1671 3 роки тому

    first to like suckers

  • @FABBYFLAME
    @FABBYFLAME 3 роки тому +4

    wow another video on how to counter draven zzzzzz, what about making a fking video how to counter senna rapidfire cannon with glacial or ashe/caitlyn

    • @biggiecheese2004
      @biggiecheese2004 3 роки тому +2

      draven mains are heated

    • @volvaire6541
      @volvaire6541 3 роки тому +1

      shut up ax guy

    • @christhis9597
      @christhis9597 3 роки тому

      Honestly, draven should shit on everyone in low elo. Theres no way you lose lane once you have a vamp scepter. The sustain is insane. Go hail of blades, when you see an opportunity to harrass just go for all 3autos instead of one and sustain back up. Rince and repeat till the enemy botlane has no hp.

  • @fartalone3142
    @fartalone3142 3 роки тому +2

    9:45 "And it was simple as that"
    Spent 9 mins explaining complex thought process that don`t even happen in my elo, yeah... simple
    ua-cam.com/video/jo08OwGnwyw/v-deo.html in this game, TL vs SN they had Rakan + Twitch vs Leona + Draven lane. I`m gonna spoil the game for you, just gonna say, it`s not that simple

    • @Shuraig7
      @Shuraig7 3 роки тому

      Exactly, if the ennemy jungler is smart there's nothing you can do

    • @mrWade101
      @mrWade101 3 роки тому

      @@Shuraig7 Well 99.99% of players aren't playing against a pro team, especially a 5-pre pro team.

  • @dagoogler01
    @dagoogler01 3 роки тому

    Why does this guy always talk like a text to speech robot?

    • @estebanmorales3635
      @estebanmorales3635 3 роки тому

      The videos are meant to be used by a variety of people, sometimes English is their second language (like me) so they have to be clear to understand.

  • @maxsomthing864
    @maxsomthing864 3 роки тому

    Hi Guys 😍💋 💝💖