Return of the Durango and Silverton After the 416 Fire! 4K
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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On July 12, 2018, the Durango and Silverton Narrow Gauge Railroad resumed operations with its first steam powered train since the devastating 416 fire broke out on June 1 about 10 AM, ten miles north of Durango.
After 481 departed Durango with the 8 o’clock train, the 8:45 and 9:30 trains were combined as one and a rare double header would lead them to Silverton. Two K-28’s would be too heavy to take over the Animas bridge in Durango, so 476 departs early. 473 makes an on time departure at Durango leading 14 cars, including a box car behind the power.
In Hermosa, we can see the double header being created as 473 brings the train to a halt in front of the water tower.
While the train stops at Rockwood, we can observe the precautions that the railroad is taking to prevent another fire. Two rail motor cars with crews follow the train. One has fire suppression equipment. In addition, the D&SNGRR has chartered a helicopter to follow the train through the canyon with a water bucket.
It’s been raining every afternoon recently and hopefully the extreme fire danger has passed. The fire and the loss of the train has been financially devastating for the Animas Valley. Now that the train is back in service, don’t cancel those vacation plans! The ride from Durango to Silverton takes you through some of the most beautiful country in the world!
Time lapse of the 416 fire is courtesy of Jon Harvey.
/ @honjarvey
We have been on this Train ride several times. We started going out there before the 416 fire and also a couple years after the fire. A beautiful way to enjoy the Mountains and nature. We are from Iowa, and would recommend this vacation to everyone. It is very relaxing and we had a beautiful time in the four corners.
Thank you for watching and commenting. It may not run this year but hopefully it will so people can enjoy this area!
So glad I got my ride in on May 15, 2018 before the fire. I came all the way from Australia to ride the D&SNGR. It would’ve been super disappointing to miss out. As it was, it was a fantastic day, a steam buff’s paradise. I hope to make the trip back to do it all again. That’s how amazing it was.
I'm very glad you got to ride it! Thanks for watching and visiting Colorado!
Saw these all the time in the 40's and early 50's. I always enjoyed waving to the engineer and the guy standing on the back of the caboose. Have a hearty thumbs up!
Thank you!
My wife and I rode this in August 1999, after a ride on the Cumbres and Toltec RR. Both were great. We sat in one of the open cars instead of the passenger type as it was, well, more open. Even in August we needed a windbreaker as the temps slowly dropped as we headed to Silverton. I got some great images there due to the train activity downtown. Hope to ride this again... Very nice video, BTW!
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I really like videoing both of these trains and will definitely being going to Durango and Chama again soon.
Wonderful video! I remember this day well. I was actually the head brakeman this day so I spotted myself here and there throughout the video. Thanks for documenting this cool double-header.
Thanks Hayden! I'm honored that you like it and that you were brakeman on this train. We met trackside at the Animas River Bridge when you were droning. I think that was the day you got that magnificent video of the high line.
@@YardLimit I forgot I had previously commented on this video, my bad, but that's right i remember meeting! Good times! Haha
@@FJX2000_Productions You're always welcome to comment!
What remarkable and extremely impressive machines, steam engines were. My uncle had a farm which had a rail line passing alongside it in the 1950' 1960's, I have many fond memories of watching the steam trains approaching and departing, especially waving at the men who operated them. I was trying to describe this to my great grand children, but it was obvious, as city dwellers, they had no comprehension of the atmosphere which has so entranced me as a child. Thank goodness for you tube or they'd never have known what I was talking about.
Great memories. And thank goodness for people that restore and operate them!
Fantastic Video! i never get tired of watching these video's
Thank you, Ray. I never get tired of making them!
Was on that system with my kids back in the '90's.....looks like its still alive and well! Awesome video. Thank you
afleetcommand Thank you!
My wife, myself and my in-laws all were on this double header on reopening day. Cool to see us on the video.
That's very cool! I'm glad you found the video. Thanks for watching it!
These Alco 470 series are fantastic! Thanks for the video.
Thank you!
weve ridden a dozen times..we love the open cars..smoke, rain, steam, snow, coal dust, mountain air.. it doesnt get any better
Have ridden the Cumbres and Toltec and Durango and Silverton trains a couple times each, open cars close to the front, and the end of the day is back at the hotel washing all the soot and cinders out of my hair. I love it. love the smell of the coal fire.
We had tickets for the train in June but they cancelled. Rode the Cumbres and Toltec instead. I'm very happy to see the Durango train back in operation. These trains are special and generate a lot of money for Southern Colorado and New Mexico. Very fine video. You chose some good spots to shoot.
Thank you very much, Bill. I'm glad you rode the C&TSRR. The scenery there is beautiful. I hope you get to ride the D&SNGRR soon!
Did you get a refund for those tickets?
We did get a refund. We plan on catching them next season. The Cumbres ride was awesome. Both RR's use the same style loco's so we may do both RR rides next season.
Make sure that your Durango train next year is being pulled by steam and not diesel.
bill timmons there is also the royal gorge railroad too, but the royal gorge railroad uses desiels rather than steam engines, and it's a standard gauge railroad rather than a narrow gauge railroad.
damn this is some awesome footage, with several frames worthy of being a desktop wallpaper
Thank you!
Thanks for bring back some great memories!!! Love that train!!! What a treat to see that doubleheader!!!!
Thank you!
Thank you!
Colorado has some of the most beautiful places on earth
Indeed it does. Thanks for watching!
great video, good job with filming. and thanks to all the passengers(and fire crew) waving.... you made this that much more enjoyable.
Thank you, Graham!
I rode the D&S RR in 1985. A memory to last a lifetime.
Come back and ride it again! Or better yet, ride the Cumbres & Toltec!
Well done! Love these trains and the whole area! Silverton is my favorite place!
Thank you. The area is just beautiful.
Both of the 3 chimes on 476 and 473 sounded epic and beautifully haunting!
Yes they are!
I rode this back in 1979 when visiting my sisters who both moved to Colorado, I was 19 of was a beautiful ride.
It never changes and it never gets old!
I hear the D&S is running doubleheaders regularly now until mid August. Now I really wish I was out there again. I really enjoyed my ride last summer behind 480. I dont get why people are blaming the train for this when it could have obviously could have been a careless camper. The railroad already goes to very great lengths to prevent forest fires along the line. When I was out there last summer there was a wild fire in Utah that I could see the smoke all the way from Pueblo, CO. That one was apparently caused by somebody playing with torches I think. The railroad is so vital to Southern Colorado's local economy
The railroad is going to run double headers until August. The fire investigation isn't complete so it's too early to tell if it was the train. Thanks for watching!
Andrew Davis My Husband spoke with one of the fire fighters and he told him that it was probably caused by a careless smoking. A cigarette butt was found near where the Wildfire began. Bless You.
Excellent video. I really enjoyed watching. You took some amazing shots.
Thank you, Hans!
I just love the sound of a steam train. The distinct whistle sound, the chugging of the engine.
They are magical! Thanks Sonny!
I was the headend brakeman on that doubleheader. It was an interesting day since one of the firemen actually threw their back out from shoveling and I almost had to go up there and be the temporary fireman! Haha
I looks like a lot of work! How do you feel about converting 493 to oil? At least no more shoving coal! Thanks for watching!
Got to ride it,and a tour of the service shop [friend] I worked in the steam industry for years,and was amazed.
That's very cool. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video of the double header! Great quality
Thank you!
I am glad to hear that the steam trains are running again. I loved the our trip to Silverton.
Thank you for watching. It's a beautiful area!
yard limit amazing video d&sngrr should rebuilt the tracks to Chama, NM so steam trains run from durango,co to chama,NM and back that would be soooooo amazing :)
Indeed it would but it will never happen. Thank you for watching!
The fact was proven when AHR had the contract to run the C&TS, they are 2 different lines run 2 very separate ways. Not to mention the amount of money that would need.
the 2 ng railroads could start a gofundme to help built it
also most of the right of way still there most bridges to
Just because the bridges are there does not mean the Right of way can simply be built over it. There would be millions, maybe billions of dollars tied up trying to rebuild it. Not to mention that several county and state roads/highways cross over or are on top of the ROW. A gofundme would do little for this venture. I am sure if you would like to fund the project on rebuilding the line between the two towns I am sure it would be appreciated.
Great video. My family and I were actually evacuated because of this fire. Also the fire started right behind one of the houses we just put new doors in a day before the fire.
Thanks for watching and I'm glad you got out safe!
This placed a smile on my face, Ty for the upload :)
Thank you! It's definitely one of my happy places.
May 4, 2019 is the first trip to Silverton, for the Durango and Silverton Narrow Guage Railroad. I just thought that I would pass the information along. The bicycle race against the Train from Durango to Silverton will be coming up soon, it's always held on Memorial Day weekend. Bless You.
Buen video Saludos desde Argentina
Gracias!
Absolutely awesome footage! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Greg!
Just awesome video for us train lovers to enjoy 👏👏👏👏👏 thanks for sharing !!!!!
I'm so glad you liked it!
Welcome back D&SNGRR !! 🇺🇸 👍 😊
Welcome back, indeed!
We love this train!!! Thank you! Amazing video.
Thank you, Stephine!
Great video and very much enjoyed this. Would like to know if you are the same person who did the San Juan Odyssey years ago in Ouray, Colorado with London Orchestra (I think it was) music to a beautiful slide show. Then we saw a presentation at a small theatre in Ouray a few years ago that was also very good. Would like to know if you are currently doing any other presentations besides the UA-cam videos. Hope you have a great day.
That wasn't me. The only thing I do are youtube videos. Glad you liked this one!
@@YardLimit Thank you for your response.
Stunning video. Glad they are running again.
I knew the Durango and Silverton Narrow Gauge Railroad would return steam operations soon. Man what a scary 416 fire that was to temporarily close down operations.
We're all glad to see it return! The fire got very close to home and businesses but the firefighters did a great job.
Awesome video, best I have seen in a long time. Very well done. 👍👍👍
Thanks Ronald!
I love you steam locomotive 🚂❤♥💙😘💕🚂❤♥💙😘💕from India 🇮🇳♥❤💙💖💕
Awesome video and well done, Thomas!
Thank you!
Love the sound of the whistles!
Indeed!
If the Durango and Silverton ever did rebuild the line to Chama, it would save a lot of time and effort of transporting the locomotives from Durango to Chama and Vice Versa.
Awesome video
Thank you!
Great Video!
Thanks!
Fantastic.
Thanks!
great video bro
Thanks!
The opening image would be great for a computer screen saver.
1959 meu pai.
Really great video, thumbs up + sub. Greetings from Denmark :)
Thank you!
Superb video Tom
Thank you, Pete!
Great to see 476 having a fire in her belly again!
Yes it is. Thanks!
@@YardLimit Sad that 478 doesn't have Fire in her belly. Oh well at least its an inspection, hopefully soon all 3 remaining K-28's will be in service
That would be very cool!
thank you for the video.
Thank you for watching!
This is actually very Impressive! I love to see action back on the D&S after the 416 Fire, and a doubleheaders until August make up for what was missed! The 3 chimes they wear are beautiful and one question, Is it true #480 and #486 have been stuck in Silverton?
They were stuck in Silverton. The fire started after the trains passed on June 1, closing the line for the return trip to Durango. Passengers had to be bused back to Durango and the trains remained in Silverton until a day or two before service was resumed.
Oh man thats unfortunate
Most engines have a D&RGW 5 Chime, however 473 has a D&RGW Passenger 3 and 476 a bullet top lunkenheimer 3.
I am aware of what whistles they wear, Its just that i like how the K-28s wear 3 chimes to change it up because all the K-36s have 5 chimes
Jacob Woods thank you for clarifying, I was going to ask since they sound somewhat similar to a PRR 3 chime.
Heard that SP Slim Princess Narrow Gauge 18 will be visiting the D&SNGRR and 493 will be restored to operational soon! Look it on google!
Correct. I hope to catch SP 18 when it runs there. 493 is being restored and converted to burn oil and not coal as a fire suppression measure.
Awesome video dude!
Thanks Dude!
Wow, that was a pretty long tourist train - -had to have been about 20 cars.
I think it was 13 plus the box car. Normal is about 11. Good reason for a double header!
The rocks still look orange from that foul EPA spill do to its negligence.
Sadly, yes.
I freely spend my money when I ride that train, knowing that I am contributing to the economy of the area.
YES THE 476 IS BACK!
I think converting to oil burning is a good idea. I know some people love the coal smoke and cinder rain, but I personally don't. Too bad the SP 918 lease to test an oil burner resulted in the locomotive blowing a piston and damaging a cylinder. That locomotive wasn't used to climbing mountains.
Most people won't notice a difference between coal and oil. It is unfortunate that SP 18 blew a cylinder, but it's being repaired and should be back in service soon.
My parents rode this in the 50's and said there was a following unit to watch for sparks from the engine.
They still do that.
Clearly an excellent place.
It is. Thanks!
I like those tall flag poles did the DSNG custom make those and what occasions do they use those flag poles?
I assume they made them. I've seen them on two occasions: one at the beginning of the season when the first train went to Silverton after the winter, and on July 12 when I shot this video.
Yard Limit I also recall them seen them on engines that were making their inaugural run after being restored one of these engines can be traced back to the video Rebirth of a locomotive which goes for the restoration of k36 number 482 shortly after being acquired with a trade with the cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad for their larger k37 number 497
TexasRailfan21 They were added for the resumed Silverton service. This was the first day back in action after the shutdown.
Inaugural opening day, Independence Day, and other special events see usage of the buffer beam stanchions.
At 5:45 the double header is assembled and prepared to commence traveling forward. Fine, but why oh why do you edit out the two short whistle blasts from each engine which must precede the forward motion? Or did the engineer neglect his responsibility? He did after all, do the right thing at 5:00 with three toots to indicate that he was backing up to couple. (I admit that this is nitpicking, but it does cause confusion to young railfans trying to understand railroad operations.)
I didn't edit it out, I just didn't have the camera on when it happened.
Didnt C. W. McCall sing about this railroad in the 70s. Im showing my age now lol?
Damn! Who knew! ua-cam.com/video/U2VbX-DbLrY/v-deo.html
I was on this exact train!!
That's very cool. I'm glad I videoed it!
Question, usually how long is the train ride?, I'm planning a motorcycle road trip this summer to Durango.
Check their schedule. I think there is the option to ride the train to Silverton and bus back which is quicker. Otherwise it's about 8 hours round trip with a couple of those hours spent in Silverton.
very nice video! thanks! Is this standard or narrow gauge?
Three foot narrow gauge.
they found out that it was the train that started that fire
OOSAS Advenures They alleged, nothing for sure. The lawsuit alleges, but they have not given up and confirmed it.
Very nice video!
Thank you!
How did you get the shot shown in 7:47 ? I see on Google Streetview that theres a large fence blocking off the bridge. Theres a little spot to the right where you might be able to squeeze in a shot but it looks like the trees kinda block it
If you look at google maps, you can see a guardrail. Go on the outside of the guardrail and walk down to a fence that runs perpendicular to 550. You can get a clear shot of the curve if you shoot through the holes in the fence.
Beautiful video! Do they have any old crossing signals on this line?
They have old flashing lights in Durango and one at Hermosa with gates.
Nice video
Thanks!
also have you yard limit video the Santa Fe southern RR yet if not please video
I've heard they are running some excursions but not on a regular basis. When I hear of one, I will definitely video it.
Brian Castle ROCK RXR 9 0 uuo
I want to visit so bad. . .
I will note that the motor cars following the train to put out fires was standard practice for the D&RGW when I rode trains on this branch in the 1960s and 1970s
Motor cars have always followed it, but this is the first time I've seen two of them; one with a water tank. I've seen that in Chama every time I've been there. Definitely a first for the helicopter though!
Thanks for watching!
The opening image footage reminds me of a volcano eruption.
Yes, the guy did a nice job with that one.
Norton Hatfield The smoke was horrible, especially in the morning, of course there were two Wildfire's burning at the same time. The second one began about a week after the 416 fire. Last year was a very bad year for Colorado, and the western United States in general. Bless You.
I wonder how many miles of track and locomotives D&S has? I know that C&T in NM have 10 or 11 I think and have nearly 70 miles of track
It's 46 miles from Durango to Silverton. I don't know how many locomotives it has but you can google it.
@@YardLimit Thanks for the info and I'll see what I can do for the locomotives
"the 416 fire" could be understood as a fire in April of 2016. Is that what it means? If not, what is the significance of the number 416?
So, the number 416 does not represent this being the 416th fire this year, but rather it is the 416th "incident" in the SJNF this calendar year.
@@YardLimit Thanks. I never would have guessed.
So I take it that the train wasn't equipped with a bear catcher ( Ember Catcher ) on the stack, Which I thought was mandatory for all coal, or wood burning locomotives.
An ember catcher. I don't know, but I do know that sometimes they don't always catch everything.
@@YardLimit I know they don't allow smoking on the train. I wonder if someone tried to smoke, and tossed a cigarette before getting caught. The Companies are usually on top of those catchers. The only way an ember can get though, is if a hole has developed in the screen. Which is highly possible. I'm sure it was a lesson well learned. LOL, not sure why I hit the A button when spelling ember. Thanks for the video !
@@Charles53412 Thank you. All good points!
Hey I know there are rules about when a train whistle must be used, but when these guys are in the back country or away from towns, are they allowed to blow those whistles as they please? Are there rules against that? I know if I was the conductor I’d be all over that handle, because as a customer part what people are paying for is that steam whistle sound...right?
The engineer blows the whistle and they do it very frequently on steam trains. Passengers like it and videographers like it.
This is so cool, I’m definitely going there this year, does anyone know how much is the ride?
Thanks. Check their website for schedules and prices.
I was wondering if they ever communicated by whistle, perhaps like morse code?
I have a couple Cumbres and Toltec videos where it seems like they are.
They need to cut all of the Brush near the RR tracks and burn the wood in the train .....
They started doing that and the forest service stopped them.
@@YardLimit Agenda 21 2030 they want to butn the people off from the Land with Forrest Fires through intenintional missmangement .. There are many ways to manage a Forrest but letting all the Brush to grow and not logging dead trees is not the way to do i t..
So, what happened to #416? Was it a loss? Did the cars also burn? Was it a brush fire?
416 was the name of the fire that closed the line for a while, it’s named 416 because of the area code for where it was
Not exactly. The number 416 comes from the number of incidents that the Columbine Ranger District had responded to in the San Juan National Forest.
I want to take a good long motorcycle ride and catch this train.
That sounds like fun!
Unrelated but the smoke stacks on those locomotives, (spark arrester included) are taller than a human. I think that’s pretty crazy.
very cool.
Thank you!
Here comes the Silverton up from Durango
Here comes the Silverton a-shovalen' coal
Here comes the Silverton up from the canyon
See the smoke and hear the whistle blow!
Nice! Is this from a song or did you write that?
@@YardLimit The former.
@@YardLimit ua-cam.com/video/U2VbX-DbLrY/v-deo.html
Don't worry about a fire, it would'nt have been the first fire along the steam train system.
I like 476 wearing a USA and Colorado flags
I would like to propose that a speeder follow each train up and back in case of fire. And I want to apply for the job as a volunteer.
They already do that, but you should talk to the railroad.
Did you hear that the Railroad Got Sued over this?
I hear they are getting sued. Seems premature since the official investigation hasn't released results yet.
Jonah Snyder I heard about that and that was the most stupid thing I’ve ever heard in my life
would love too ride this.
U won't be disappointed I rode the train quite a bit when I was growing up also I'm from that area
The Durango and Silverton railroad railroad is looking to buy diesel locomotives so that they can run the trains in any weather conditions.
They have agreed to purchase two for a cost of $3 million. They are also converting 493 to burn oil.
Yard Limit it will be hard for the Durango and Silverton railroad to find diesel locomotives because the Durango and Silverton railroad is a narrow gauge railroad.
trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2018/07/31-durango--silverton-says-it-will-buy-two-narrow-gauge-diesel-from-south-carolina-1
I had to evacuate from my house during the 416 fire
Well hopefully..., never mind.
How did the fire start?
It's still under investigation.
Evidence strongly points to the train!
An amateur train buff who lives next to the tracks actually has a fire hose and water supply on his truck that he used to put out 5 fires caused by the train in May. He witnessed the start of the 416 fire as the train passed and unsuccessfully tried to put it out...from the Durango Herald! 54,000 acres burned, 25 million dollars cost, hundreds of people evacuated!
Fire occurred at a steep grade, which causes coal fired engine to emit burning cinders.
All true. I just didn't want to speculate on the page.
I can't help but notice that your audio is slightly off the whistle sounds before the steam escapes on some of the scenes
Well, sounds travels more slowly in the mountains. Do you believe that?
Yard Limit that might be something but I never heard of that before
Depends on how far away the camera and microphone are from the sound source. Sound travels one mile in about 5 seconds.
Roy Reynolds I gotcha
Yard limit is right about the sound traveling slower due to the area. I have recorded video of the D&S near the old mine coming into Silverton and it had an even greater effect in my video.
476 and 473 should swap whistles
Why did they sideline 478? Nothing was wrong with it.
478 is currently stored in the D&S museum awaiting a rebuild in the distant future.
Its boiler time ran out.
Thanks for the info!