saw the luxin tweet where apparently takahashi is comparing Malos to Jesus... and oh my god my malos theory is gonna be right isn't it (pro tip, if you too want to be a theorycrafter, have 10 or so ideas and hope one sticks and then roll with it)
The Holy Trinity allegory with the Trinity Processors isn't even subtle lmao. Malos literally died for our sins. And coupled with the gnosticism symbolism, it's a no brainer.
Because I stay concerningly up to date with this stuff, here is what we know so far in the art book: Nopon are immortal because they are not part of Aionios' design. Shulk and Rex appeared later which lines up with the Liberators arriving later theory. Ontos has been silently operating since the end of FC and never fully shut down, which explains his sudden appearance in FR. Z is canonically a sub admin of Origin, with Alpha being the primary admin. Shulk, Rex, Nia, and Melia all also have access to the Origin system, although their authority is slightly different. The rules mentioned by A are also connected as the rules of Aionios are part of how the world operates, so Shulk and Rex removing Nikol and Glimmer's term marks just makes more sense now. Malos (specifically not Logos for one reason or another) is in N's Sword of the End. Which is unique given that Pneuma is in Noah and Matthew's blade rather than the Origin Metal part. Fiora is Lucky Seven and previous major characters from 1 and 2 may have reappeared in 3 as Origin Metal as it is a medium for containing souls. The Black Fog seen in FC, FR, and 3 is representative of the worlds trying to recombine. It can also "project" entities across the two worlds. Which helps explain the Fog King/Infernal Guldo. The Young Noah seen in Noah's mind during Chapter 6 is actually a fragment of N's mind talking to Noah. So instead of M talking to Noah it is Noah talking to Noah about why he exists. It's not confusing I promise. When somebody acheives Homecoming, they cannot be affected by Moebius at all. Noah and Mio are the only individuals who superceded Homecoming by their desire to stay together. Which explains why Z was interested in them in the first place. Oh also Takahashi is just taking the piss and basically said he is cooking for Xenoblade 4. Bro got that Nintendo money to make Perfect Works after two decades of trying.
im so locked into the future of xenoblade it's insane, i can't wait to make 1000 theories and overanalyze every single detail it's going to be great and thanks so much for the roundup! It's hard to find this info with how scattered it can be so I appreciate it, was a very helpful read!
@@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 that makes sense because Logos only became Malos because of Amalthus influence when he was awakened. Malos died at the end of Xenoblade 2 and now its Logos again its basically the same thing with Ontos becoming Alvis because of Klaus's regret and after Klaus died he became a Computer without feelings until he was split into A and Alpha.
Normally you would be correct, but during the interview/questionnaire in Aionios Moments, Takahashi *EXPLICITLY* states that Malos is contained within N's Sword of the End and not Logos. Its currently unclear as to why specifically Malos is in there for now.@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123
@@JMullsas much as Reddit gets criticized (rightfully so tbh, the place sucks 90% of the time lmao), the place is an absolute gold mine for Xenoblade content. In particular the Xenoblade Chronicles subreddit contains early screenshots and a properly curated and translated list of all the available information we have from the art book leaks. I highly recommend taking a look if you have the time.
I mean yeah, I don't know why some people started doubting about the Malos core crystal being implied to be in the sword of the end. It also made perfect sense with the purple glow. The scene is specifically constructed in a way to suggest you that, the shots back to back, Rex's look and what he says at this specific moment. You have to interpret the signs correctly cause there is a right way to interpret it through suggestion but this type of things are very discreet and rely on your perspicacity and aren't simply factually explained with blocks of text or written. You have to learn how to read between the lines basically. There is a lot of things like that with Xenoblade (it's probably even too vague in Xenoblade 3 for the most part to the point where further explanations are required).
Noah threw the sword into the ocean because its symbolic of moving ahead. Now that everyone can look to the future without fear and there's no reason to currently fight anymore the spirits of those who compose the Lucky Seven can be released from their part in the war.
Frankly, I would LOVE if Malos' reincarnation was the bext protagonist! We haven't really had a "dark" protagonist in Xenoblade yet (both in a literal and metaphorical sense). Shulk comes close, but he's still definitively a good guy who generally makes decisions that are all morally good. What if BOTH Mythra's kid and the reincarnation of Malos were in the game? It would be amazing to finally see at least two parts of the trinity actually act like family (or at least the extensions of the trinity). We couldn't really see it with Mythra and Pyra since they literally couldn't be on the screen at the same time the majority of the time. A and Alpha are the complete inverse of Mythra and Pyra, so none of their interactions were good either. Pneuma and Logos were diametrically opposed from the moment they were awakened. Alpha/A/Alvis never get to interact with any of them. I find it extremely ironic that they are all supposed to be 3 parts of the same whole, but almost none of them can get along with each other for more than 5 minutes without trying to kill each other. Speaking of Mythra's kid and Malos 2.0 finally getting to know each other, the same thjng could happen with Ontos in XC4. If the world reset and Shulk and Rex are no linger avatars and could resume their lives as normal, wouldn't that be the same for A as well? She could still exist in XC4 so we could have all the pieces of the Trinity Processor be in one room for once! They don't all have to be party members, but I just want ONE scene where they are all together and are not trying to rip each other's throats out.
Obviously Mythra's kid is the reincarnation of Addam who wields Malos' sword, and Rex and Shulk become villains and try to kill Noah for yeeting their wives
Huh. I never considered that Mythra’s kid could share resemblances with Addam. Probably because everyone expects the child to be female… minus the Dhirk theory
Z said that he cant imagine the machinations that had to happen for N to have the sword of the end. I think there may be one more character involved that is responsible of what happened in aionios. Also i wonder if they will address why Sena has the same hair as Brigid.
I'm assuming Noah is just finna be like a mix between Aionios Noah and N, my biggest question is if his eye will have light in his eyes or not. If you pay attention N's eyes never really have as much light as Noah's do and I wonder if True complete Noah will have any light or not.
I think Malos's core crystal is destroyed, but his data still exists. The original function of the Aegis's in the XB2 world was that they acted as managers to the Blades, maintaining the data from each blade. I believe that the Pnumea Core kept said data, just like how it is implied Pyra and Mythra's personalities remained after being "kaboom'd". Origin's main purpose was to recreate matter and used the remaining Aegis' as a base. What if Origin used a combination of the data of Malos from Pnumea's core and N and M's emotions to essentially reforge Malos' core crystal, winding up in N's blade as Noah returned over and over again, reforging Malos's Crystal more each time. Origin could also be trying to "balance" itself due to Alpha, which would also explain how N and Matthew just so happened to both have the "balances" to Alpha right when they needed them.
I have my own theory hear me out; I think N's sword is logos not malos. Malos is dead out of all the aegis's we saw at the end of the game both pneuma and alvis had the cores intact, malos's however has destroyed. I think that someone else from xenoblade 2's world had to fill in the role of logos and my theory is that it' Zeke because he fits the physical embodiment and emotions of logps: a tough male who wants to inspire liberation and change in others. He has a core crystal in his chest since he is a blade eater so that adds more to my theory. I think zeke is the sword of the end as how fiora is ucky seven. But thats just my theory, what do you guys think?
Yes but Pneuma died at the end of Xenoblade 2 so wen they return they woud ave their memory erased Just like Homura ad said before that sometime forgetting is a good thing she wanted to forget everything everything before Rex
@@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905I think it’s unlikely that Pnuema is dead just bcs they split. It’s probably more similar to Lavenza from P5 games just the reverse, where Lavenza can split off into Caroline and Justine whereas Pyra and Mythra can fuse back into Pnuema, especially since Rex still combines the two’s sword into her’s
@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905 yes but remember, their core was intact because she transfered all its data to Rex's core thus allowing them to come back, malos's core was the only aegis core we saw that was destroyed completky.
Also Klaus is a cheat code in all of this because he basically can channel the remaining power of the conduit, standard rules don't exactly apply to the guy who made those rules, we'll need final confirmation to be 100% certain but I highly doubt Mythra or Pyra lost their memory of Rex, since One Last You kind of fills in that gap imo
I don't think Xenoblade 4 will have anyone from the first 3 games. If 3 really is the end of the Klaus saga, 4 probably will have a whole new cast of characters like Final Fantasy that has absolutely nothing to do with the Klaus arc
Melia would have spared Coffee and milk, but made the same with Lucky Seven. Or assured it would not return. She was hostage for millennia. She wants some of this Shulk D(ickson)
@@rhaspados666Yeah par for the course when you're trying to integrate a series from like 20 years ago into a newer one. I used to play World of Warcraft so I'm used to retcons lol
people thinking that n's sword is not malos is literally the whole ontos situation all over again. even after definitive edition changed alvis key to a core we had people claim that he can't in any way be ontos. til 3 just straight up said that he is. it's so on the nose that malos clearly is a part of the sword.
I want to add one little caveat here: we are very close to a new console. The smart move would be to make the next Xenoblade for the next console so it can help bolster that console’s game library
That photo... that damn photo. 1 year+ after finished that game and i'm still shocked or my mind blow's when i think about it. Tks Takahashi for this beauty. Cant wait for next Xeno-game
I'm just imagining Shulk hunting down kid Noah at the end of 3 after finding out that he chucked lucky seven, (who apparently was his wife), into the ocean.
I do think it was clear that the Sword of the End was based on the Logos core, but there wasn't a reason to think it was Malos him self. Based on what we knew before today, one could have easily though that the Sword of the End was a Logos Replica ( or Emulator). if you Thought Luck Seven was an Ontos Replica, this would make a lot of sense. And honestly I think there is more to the answer of to the question of what is the Sword of the End. Cus Malos is DEAD at the end 2 so something must of happened, now we just have to wait for Xenoblade 4 for an answer to that (I am so hyped for a game that hasn't been announced yet omg)
One thing that still confuses me: at the beginning of Chapter 7, Nia calls Noah's Blade the Sword of the End. That implies to me that it's the same Blade as N's. So does that mean they both have Logos/Malos in their Blades? Is it linked to their souls within Origin? And does that also mean that Fiora, as Lucky Seven, is also in N's black Lucky Seven? And if so, is Fiora almost part of Logos in this case, since Pneuma is probably the sheath of Noah's Lucky Seven, so the only part Nia could be referring to as the Sword of the End is Lucky Seven?
@JMulls Hadn't thought of that. Makes sense the Fists of the End became just another Sword of the End when Noah got them. Though that does make it weird that only Lucky Seven seems to get any sort of respect for its power in the story. Noah's original Blade doesn't do anything nearly as impressive as Lucky Seven, which if it is Pneuma, feels very strange, especially since the other party members can use that Blade. Though now that I think about it, the Job system is basically a party wide Master Driver situation. Makes me wonder if that wasn't an Ouroboros power, but a power granted by Pneuma's presence. It always confused me how the game's party is without question the most successful Ouroboros group, killing tons of Moebius before even making it to the City. What City folk Ouroboros can do is pretty vague from what I remember, so maybe having Pneuma there (and potentially Logos, if it's a case where he's linked to Noah's soul) gives them abilities no other Ouroboros group had. Which does make me wonder why Noah has a completely different Blade to pre-N when Mio seemingly(?) has the same Blade from before becoming M. Though I admittedly can't remember ever seeing pre-M Mio using a Blade, it does seem like the Blade she has is what she's born with in Aionios, and wasn't given to her by anybody else like Noah's Blades seem to. Why is Noah's situation so different from Mio's when they're in the same boat, even before becoming Moebius?
i have a feeling that the next xenoblade protag is gonna be the new driver of logos but he will have another form similar to pyra and there will be a fight between this guy and rex maybe
Yeah I think I need to make a vid on this, I'm almost certain I made one a while back but I don't remember and maybe only talked about it on stream so I'm gonna do a full proper theory either tomorrow or the day after
This is a question before watching the video. So I know this might be a pointless question to ask, but with Matthew’s gauntlet housing Pneuma’s core Crystal and N’s Sheath housing Logos’ core Crystal, is it safe to assume that Pneuma’s core Crystal is housed in Noah’s sheath as well? Since it shares similarities with Matthew’s gauntlets and it would also parallel N as well.
Would really want X port and X2, but I would mind a spinoff. Takahashi ask me to wait so his team can cook then I will, but I can make a hypothetical Xeno game in the meantime.
Hear me out....Super Robot Wars will explain it, where we get to play the mechs from Xenogears, Xenosaga and Xenoblade 2 and 3, with the Mechons mechs as enemies. And i think it would be awesome seeing Weltall, E.S Dinah and Siren together.
I think this comment from one of the videos I saw somewhere last year, that theorized and thought about how the core crystal went into Noah's sword being a thing. And in that comment, someone said "He threw them into the ocean. _Where they used to be"_ Making a play on words for one of Xenoblade 2's songs. Edit: I mixed up the songs earlier before finding the comment from the other video again. Because Pyra and Mythra at the beginning of Xenoblade 2 we found them at the bottom of the ocean. And now back to the ocean they go.
@@Doze1202 The point of their comment was irony. In how all of this ended up looping back around to them being at the ocean. Also other than for symbolism, it's still have two things of where it's still attached to his blade, which he can summon at any time. And secondly this is Aionios, which gets undone in the end anyways. So you know, still reasons to dunk on Noah.
Ah, ok. But still, they do realize since Aionios no longer exists and everything returns to its point in time, Fiora, Pyra and Mythra are fine, right? The Sword of Origin isn’t at the bottom of a nonexistent ocean. I will agree Noah shouldn’t have thrown it, tho. Maybe they should’ve put it in the field where we see the Monado in the opening screen of the first game
Safe to say Noah is gonna get jumped by shulk and Rex for throwing there wife’s into the sea And with malos I think it more like the case of pneuma remaking malos core crystal like she did with pyra and mythra as a gift of a new better life as he was fucked when he was awakened by Amalthus now whether it’s a new personality or just malos like what she did with pyra and mythra is to be seem
I hope so too, I wouldn't be mad if we didn't cause I love his arc, but I think there is more that can be done with the character as I talk about in my more recent Malos theory vid
Shintoism, the game is heavily based on it. If you have a soul, it takes form. Depending on how you are. Fiora has connections with Meyneth so her soul takes shape of a sword.
We see in game that Matthew knuckle was hosting pneuma but is it confirmed that his knuckle was re purposed as Noah Veiled sword? his sword never glow green it gLow blue! Also N hosting Logos? Every moebius weapon's already glow purple like Logos how we ware supposed to know? Lucky seven is fiora? It is her Robotic mechon body that was re purposed as Lucky seven? The sword is powered by the souls within Origin
Noah's blade glows green a few times throughout base game, as does Matthew's Fist at the end of FR. Noah's blade never glowed blue. It's never been explicitly confirmed that Noah's blade is the same blade Matthew used, but considering how eerily similar their designs are and how both weapons contain Pneuma, I find it unlikely that they are separate weapons. It's very obvious with hindsight. In the base game of 3, it's not really indicated that Malos is present within N's Sword of the End, however FR makes it very clear during the finale. Notably that both times Rex mentions a "they" during the final battle, the camera immediately pans to Matthew's Gauntlets and N's Sword, with both weapons reacting to each other. FR makes it incredibly obvious that Malos was in N's Sword of the End. Although we never knew to what extent he was in the blade until now. Lucky Seven contains Fiora's essence/her soul. Apparently this wasn't common knowledge during development which is kinda BS ngl. Regardless, Fiora is just there now. It doesn't invalidate any lore or anything. It's just really weird. So outside of Fiora, a lot of the new lore drops were already in the game and presented to the player, we are mostly just getting confirmations.
@@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg does Noah sword glow green even with the upgradded sword? i ave replayed thE game like 10X i never saw a green glow only sometimes wen Lucky seven draw its green and yellow and the gloves buffs ave green also yes Noah sword glow blue wen activated As for the souls thing Origin metal as the property of resonating with souls from Origin Both moebius and the ouroburos are powered by different souls from Origin, Moebius by those who are effraid of the future and the ouroburos who want to face the uncertainty of the future Lucky seven is made of Origin metal and is powered by souls within Origin During the flute scene with Y Noah use his sword to call Miyabi soul from Origin wile they play Miyabi song to bring her back Lucky seven was comissioned by Melia
@@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg unless he meant that Fiora Mechon body was used to make Lucky seven i dont anderstand Lucky seven is powered by a bunch of souls wen Noah draw Lucky seven picture Shulk reyn fiora sharla dunban riki vanea atharon etc giving energy to the blade as for the veiled sword containing the pneuma core i highly doupt Pneuma and logos was already used to create the full real ouroburos form and we dont see the Core again after the fight the core coud even ben broken in the process i believe that Nia in the main game ave the pneuma core first her 2 pneuma sword in her back second she generated the ouroburos stone and third she ad M as a contact! What if after the events of FR M gave the pneuma core to Nia? its all speculation but that what i believe
Wow. Fiora being lucky seven is wild. So this means that in xenoblade 3, fiora is more powerful than penuma. Ya know, fiora being so powerful in xeno 2...was that foreshadowing? But what i dont get, how did pyra/mythra go from matthews fists of the end to noah and his sword sheath? How did that happen?
I always felt it was obvious but some people don't like to take the extra or even sometimes small leap unless it's spelled out, being skeptical is good and all but sometimes obvious connections and obvious for a reason imo
Hmmm i think xenoblade chronicles trilogy is already perfect... Please consider if the 4th release would be a story so stretched like the 4th Matrix film 😂 which should never be released
People wanna be vague as hell for no reason in the Xenoblade fandom? What a shocker. I have to literally beg people to explain what happens in saga and gears to me and even then they try to be subtle it's annoying being so secretive isn't hiding spoilers it's gatekeeping newcomer's
Yeah some people have good intentions and all that and I can definitely appreciate a community that tries to actively not spoil cool reveals for people, but at the same time it makes aggregating info on something I don't have kind of hard sometimes 🤣
I really hope along with a Xenoblade X game for the Switch 2 we also get a Xenoblade Warriors game where it's set after Xenoblade 3. That way we can the story of following up on the main series characters and answer a lot of the stuff Takahashi is keeping secret for now. But at the same time still getting an X port or sequel as well. Since Xenoblade Warriors will be done by Koei Tecmo while Monolithsoft focuses on X. Just make it so Mythra's kid is the protagonist of the Warriors game.
I have a theory. But let me set y'all up with a scenario. After the events of Xenoblade 2, the party went their separate ways for a few years. Rex and Pyra (and ONLY Rex and Pyra) got married and had a child, Glimmer. Eternally grateful for saving his life, Niall invites Nia to serve as Gormott's Consul as reparations are made and Mor Ardain restores Gormott's sovereignty with Lady Nia becoming Regent and restoring the Eschell name to nobility. During this, the two fall in love, marry and have a child, Mio. Mythra travels Elysium (shortly thereafter named "Agnus") alone on a journey of self-discovery. During her travels, she befriends a man, the two fall in love, having a child. Nothing is known of this man. Years later, the party reunites to celebrate the anniversary of the founding of Agnus. Emperor Niall commissions a professional photographer to take a photograph for posterity which will be called "The Saviors of Alrest." Rex, Pyra, Mythra, Nia, Dromarch, Tora, Poppi, Morag, Bridgid, Zeke and Pandoria were intended to be the only ones to appear in the photograph. But Queen Nia's handmaidens were having a hard time placating the three babies as they got really fussy without their mothers. After some coercion from his wife, Niall acquiesced to allow his daughter and children of the Aegises appear in the historic photograph. This is my theory/headcanon of why Rex is still absolutely a gigachad, just not for the reasons he appears to be in the photo at the end of XC3. Saving the entire world at 15 is enough to earn him that title.
saw the luxin tweet where apparently takahashi is comparing Malos to Jesus... and oh my god my malos theory is gonna be right isn't it (pro tip, if you too want to be a theorycrafter, have 10 or so ideas and hope one sticks and then roll with it)
I prefer being a truthsinger with few likely theories but theorycrafting with a pletora of ideas is cool too.
that is an odd way to connect xenosaga lmao
The Holy Trinity allegory with the Trinity Processors isn't even subtle lmao. Malos literally died for our sins. And coupled with the gnosticism symbolism, it's a no brainer.
Gotta say, N was pretty spot on with calling his sword. "The Sword of the End", since it contained the core crystal of The Endbringer
GREAT catch
it's okay uncle rex's gonna salvage the sword
gonna need some platinum cylinders
Don’t worry shulk and Nikol will help him as the gear makers.
He better do! That sword is 2 of his 3 wives!
Shulk after learning Noah threw Lucky Seven in the ocean: I’ll kill you!
Rex joining in for the JJK esque beatdown
He really just threw away *both* their wives at once, huh?
Yeah, he's dead.
@@wutmagna7222 and being in a intimate relationship with the daughter of 1 of them IN MULTIPLE LIVES , just to be sure he's dead on the new planet
No army in any series will be able to protect him.
U guys do realize that they’re fine if the world has been fixed, right?
"N's sword of depression" i like that xD
NOTHING HAPPY HAS EVER HAPPENED AROUND THAT THING I SWEAR
I can't believe the Xenoblade was truly the friends we made along the way....
Holy shit the series has a punchline now
XC1 has a lot of punchline, XC2 focuses more on waifu aspect
I don't mind him throwing the sword into the ocean. It's laying those who have passed away to rest. It's honorable imo
Yeah I'm not actually mad about it or anything I just find it hilarious
Because I stay concerningly up to date with this stuff, here is what we know so far in the art book:
Nopon are immortal because they are not part of Aionios' design.
Shulk and Rex appeared later which lines up with the Liberators arriving later theory.
Ontos has been silently operating since the end of FC and never fully shut down, which explains his sudden appearance in FR.
Z is canonically a sub admin of Origin, with Alpha being the primary admin. Shulk, Rex, Nia, and Melia all also have access to the Origin system, although their authority is slightly different. The rules mentioned by A are also connected as the rules of Aionios are part of how the world operates, so Shulk and Rex removing Nikol and Glimmer's term marks just makes more sense now.
Malos (specifically not Logos for one reason or another) is in N's Sword of the End. Which is unique given that Pneuma is in Noah and Matthew's blade rather than the Origin Metal part.
Fiora is Lucky Seven and previous major characters from 1 and 2 may have reappeared in 3 as Origin Metal as it is a medium for containing souls.
The Black Fog seen in FC, FR, and 3 is representative of the worlds trying to recombine. It can also "project" entities across the two worlds. Which helps explain the Fog King/Infernal Guldo.
The Young Noah seen in Noah's mind during Chapter 6 is actually a fragment of N's mind talking to Noah. So instead of M talking to Noah it is Noah talking to Noah about why he exists. It's not confusing I promise.
When somebody acheives Homecoming, they cannot be affected by Moebius at all. Noah and Mio are the only individuals who superceded Homecoming by their desire to stay together. Which explains why Z was interested in them in the first place.
Oh also Takahashi is just taking the piss and basically said he is cooking for Xenoblade 4. Bro got that Nintendo money to make Perfect Works after two decades of trying.
im so locked into the future of xenoblade it's insane, i can't wait to make 1000 theories and overanalyze every single detail it's going to be great and thanks so much for the roundup! It's hard to find this info with how scattered it can be so I appreciate it, was a very helpful read!
You have it wrong, it's the other way around. Logos is in the Sword of the End, not Malos.
@@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 that makes sense because Logos only became Malos because of Amalthus influence when he was awakened. Malos died at the end of Xenoblade 2 and now its Logos again its basically the same thing with Ontos becoming Alvis because of Klaus's regret and after Klaus died he became a Computer without feelings until he was split into A and Alpha.
Normally you would be correct, but during the interview/questionnaire in Aionios Moments, Takahashi *EXPLICITLY* states that Malos is contained within N's Sword of the End and not Logos. Its currently unclear as to why specifically Malos is in there for now.@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123
@@JMullsas much as Reddit gets criticized (rightfully so tbh, the place sucks 90% of the time lmao), the place is an absolute gold mine for Xenoblade content. In particular the Xenoblade Chronicles subreddit contains early screenshots and a properly curated and translated list of all the available information we have from the art book leaks. I highly recommend taking a look if you have the time.
I mean yeah, I don't know why some people started doubting about the Malos core crystal being implied to be in the sword of the end. It also made perfect sense with the purple glow. The scene is specifically constructed in a way to suggest you that, the shots back to back, Rex's look and what he says at this specific moment. You have to interpret the signs correctly cause there is a right way to interpret it through suggestion but this type of things are very discreet and rely on your perspicacity and aren't simply factually explained with blocks of text or written. You have to learn how to read between the lines basically.
There is a lot of things like that with Xenoblade (it's probably even too vague in Xenoblade 3 for the most part to the point where further explanations are required).
Noah threw the sword into the ocean because its symbolic of moving ahead. Now that everyone can look to the future without fear and there's no reason to currently fight anymore the spirits of those who compose the Lucky Seven can be released from their part in the war.
Frankly, I would LOVE if Malos' reincarnation was the bext protagonist! We haven't really had a "dark" protagonist in Xenoblade yet (both in a literal and metaphorical sense). Shulk comes close, but he's still definitively a good guy who generally makes decisions that are all morally good.
What if BOTH Mythra's kid and the reincarnation of Malos were in the game? It would be amazing to finally see at least two parts of the trinity actually act like family (or at least the extensions of the trinity). We couldn't really see it with Mythra and Pyra since they literally couldn't be on the screen at the same time the majority of the time. A and Alpha are the complete inverse of Mythra and Pyra, so none of their interactions were good either. Pneuma and Logos were diametrically opposed from the moment they were awakened. Alpha/A/Alvis never get to interact with any of them. I find it extremely ironic that they are all supposed to be 3 parts of the same whole, but almost none of them can get along with each other for more than 5 minutes without trying to kill each other.
Speaking of Mythra's kid and Malos 2.0 finally getting to know each other, the same thjng could happen with Ontos in XC4. If the world reset and Shulk and Rex are no linger avatars and could resume their lives as normal, wouldn't that be the same for A as well? She could still exist in XC4 so we could have all the pieces of the Trinity Processor be in one room for once! They don't all have to be party members, but I just want ONE scene where they are all together and are not trying to rip each other's throats out.
No protagonist ever wielded Malos' sword when you think about it. It was a privilege only reserved to bad guys so that would be cool.
a sort of loveable anti hero type could make a fun protag.
Obviously Mythra's kid is the reincarnation of Addam who wields Malos' sword, and Rex and Shulk become villains and try to kill Noah for yeeting their wives
real
Huh. I never considered that Mythra’s kid could share resemblances with Addam. Probably because everyone expects the child to be female… minus the Dhirk theory
@@LFPman It's also just a cute idea that Rex would have 3 daughters on top of having 3 wives.
@@LFPman the anime child law : if the kid is a boy he his a clone of the dad if the kid a girl she a clone of her mom 90% the case
Z said that he cant imagine the machinations that had to happen for N to have the sword of the end. I think there may be one more character involved that is responsible of what happened in aionios. Also i wonder if they will address why Sena has the same hair as Brigid.
Noah throws Fiora into the ocean: I guess Melia wins.
Its perfect because now all the cranky in-law jokes about N and Rex now extend to Shulk and Rex going up against N AND Noah.
LOL
I'm assuming Noah is just finna be like a mix between Aionios Noah and N, my biggest question is if his eye will have light in his eyes or not. If you pay attention N's eyes never really have as much light as Noah's do and I wonder if True complete Noah will have any light or not.
I think Malos's core crystal is destroyed, but his data still exists. The original function of the Aegis's in the XB2 world was that they acted as managers to the Blades, maintaining the data from each blade. I believe that the Pnumea Core kept said data, just like how it is implied Pyra and Mythra's personalities remained after being "kaboom'd". Origin's main purpose was to recreate matter and used the remaining Aegis' as a base. What if Origin used a combination of the data of Malos from Pnumea's core and N and M's emotions to essentially reforge Malos' core crystal, winding up in N's blade as Noah returned over and over again, reforging Malos's Crystal more each time. Origin could also be trying to "balance" itself due to Alpha, which would also explain how N and Matthew just so happened to both have the "balances" to Alpha right when they needed them.
I have my own theory hear me out;
I think N's sword is logos not malos. Malos is dead out of all the aegis's we saw at the end of the game both pneuma and alvis had the cores intact, malos's however has destroyed. I think that someone else from xenoblade 2's world had to fill in the role of logos and my theory is that it' Zeke because he fits the physical embodiment and emotions of logps: a tough male who wants to inspire liberation and change in others. He has a core crystal in his chest since he is a blade eater so that adds more to my theory.
I think zeke is the sword of the end as how fiora is ucky seven. But thats just my theory, what do you guys think?
Yes but Pneuma died at the end of Xenoblade 2 so wen they return they woud ave their memory erased Just like Homura ad said before that sometime forgetting is a good thing she wanted to forget everything everything before Rex
@@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905I think it’s unlikely that Pnuema is dead just bcs they split. It’s probably more similar to Lavenza from P5 games just the reverse, where Lavenza can split off into Caroline and Justine whereas Pyra and Mythra can fuse back into Pnuema, especially since Rex still combines the two’s sword into her’s
@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905 yes but remember, their core was intact because she transfered all its data to Rex's core thus allowing them to come back, malos's core was the only aegis core we saw that was destroyed completky.
Also Klaus is a cheat code in all of this because he basically can channel the remaining power of the conduit, standard rules don't exactly apply to the guy who made those rules, we'll need final confirmation to be 100% certain but I highly doubt Mythra or Pyra lost their memory of Rex, since One Last You kind of fills in that gap imo
Xenoblade 4's party will include Mythra's kid as the main protagonist, who wields a reincarnated Malos because why not have an Aegisborn drive Aegis?
I don't think Xenoblade 4 will have anyone from the first 3 games. If 3 really is the end of the Klaus saga, 4 probably will have a whole new cast of characters like Final Fantasy that has absolutely nothing to do with the Klaus arc
Noah should've given the sword to Melia.
To really rub it in?
ok that would be funny tho with this context 🤣
Mellia would look at it and probably send the pnuema core over to Nia and just put fiora next to shulk’s other monado Rex just cause.
Melia would have spared Coffee and milk, but made the same with Lucky Seven. Or assured it would not return. She was hostage for millennia. She wants some of this Shulk D(ickson)
I have another suggestion. He puts it where we see the Monado in the main menu of the first Xenoblade
That “I NEED IT” was VILE.
I can't believe that no one made the link between Fiora and Lucky seven before her fan name is literally seven
Yeah I feel dumb for not making that connection myself cause it seems kind of obvious in hindsight
I still think a xenosaga collection is gonna be announced at the next direct
I think it's possible as well or SOMETHING for saga
@@JMulls yea theirs a few things they'll have to recon but actually very little
@@rhaspados666Yeah par for the course when you're trying to integrate a series from like 20 years ago into a newer one. I used to play World of Warcraft so I'm used to retcons lol
Im glad shulk also got a sword wive
people thinking that n's sword is not malos is literally the whole ontos situation all over again. even after definitive edition changed alvis key to a core we had people claim that he can't in any way be ontos. til 3 just straight up said that he is.
it's so on the nose that malos clearly is a part of the sword.
I want to add one little caveat here: we are very close to a new console. The smart move would be to make the next Xenoblade for the next console so it can help bolster that console’s game library
Yeah my theory is they want X def edition for that role imo, i think switch 2 would be too soon for xenoblade 4
Metroid prime 4 8 year of developpment already
Me : AAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH
That photo... that damn photo. 1 year+ after finished that game and i'm still shocked or my mind blow's when i think about it.
Tks Takahashi for this beauty. Cant wait for next Xeno-game
Xenoblade 2 is one of my favorite games of all time and seeing that photo for the first time was amazing, glad to see my crew got their happy ending
I'm just imagining Shulk hunting down kid Noah at the end of 3 after finding out that he chucked lucky seven, (who apparently was his wife), into the ocean.
I do think it was clear that the Sword of the End was based on the Logos core, but there wasn't a reason to think it was Malos him self. Based on what we knew before today, one could have easily though that the Sword of the End was a Logos Replica ( or Emulator). if you Thought Luck Seven was an Ontos Replica, this would make a lot of sense. And honestly I think there is more to the answer of to the question of what is the Sword of the End. Cus Malos is DEAD at the end 2 so something must of happened, now we just have to wait for Xenoblade 4 for an answer to that (I am so hyped for a game that hasn't been announced yet omg)
J was right yet again and this gets me excited about Xenoblade in the future
Him throwing the sword just symbolizes him giving up fighting. It’s his blade, at the end of the day he can still summon it if needed
One thing that still confuses me: at the beginning of Chapter 7, Nia calls Noah's Blade the Sword of the End. That implies to me that it's the same Blade as N's. So does that mean they both have Logos/Malos in their Blades? Is it linked to their souls within Origin? And does that also mean that Fiora, as Lucky Seven, is also in N's black Lucky Seven? And if so, is Fiora almost part of Logos in this case, since Pneuma is probably the sheath of Noah's Lucky Seven, so the only part Nia could be referring to as the Sword of the End is Lucky Seven?
I imagine it's a similar blade to N's just swap out Logos/Malos for Pneuma/Pyra&Mythra
@JMulls Hadn't thought of that. Makes sense the Fists of the End became just another Sword of the End when Noah got them. Though that does make it weird that only Lucky Seven seems to get any sort of respect for its power in the story. Noah's original Blade doesn't do anything nearly as impressive as Lucky Seven, which if it is Pneuma, feels very strange, especially since the other party members can use that Blade.
Though now that I think about it, the Job system is basically a party wide Master Driver situation. Makes me wonder if that wasn't an Ouroboros power, but a power granted by Pneuma's presence. It always confused me how the game's party is without question the most successful Ouroboros group, killing tons of Moebius before even making it to the City. What City folk Ouroboros can do is pretty vague from what I remember, so maybe having Pneuma there (and potentially Logos, if it's a case where he's linked to Noah's soul) gives them abilities no other Ouroboros group had.
Which does make me wonder why Noah has a completely different Blade to pre-N when Mio seemingly(?) has the same Blade from before becoming M. Though I admittedly can't remember ever seeing pre-M Mio using a Blade, it does seem like the Blade she has is what she's born with in Aionios, and wasn't given to her by anybody else like Noah's Blades seem to. Why is Noah's situation so different from Mio's when they're in the same boat, even before becoming Moebius?
i have a feeling that the next xenoblade protag is gonna be the new driver of logos but he will have another form similar to pyra and there will be a fight between this guy and rex maybe
Yeah I think I need to make a vid on this, I'm almost certain I made one a while back but I don't remember and maybe only talked about it on stream so I'm gonna do a full proper theory either tomorrow or the day after
This is a question before watching the video. So I know this might be a pointless question to ask, but with Matthew’s gauntlet housing Pneuma’s core Crystal and N’s Sheath housing Logos’ core Crystal, is it safe to assume that Pneuma’s core Crystal is housed in Noah’s sheath as well? Since it shares similarities with Matthew’s gauntlets and it would also parallel N as well.
Yes I believe the Firsts of the End become the sheath Noah uses for Lucky 7 since when he takes Lucky 7 out he gets the fist
Would really want X port and X2, but I would mind a spinoff. Takahashi ask me to wait so his team can cook then I will, but I can make a hypothetical Xeno game in the meantime.
Xenoblade Warriors coming to explain more about Xenoblade 3?
GIVE ME THIS NINTENDO
Hear me out....Super Robot Wars will explain it, where we get to play the mechs from Xenogears, Xenosaga and Xenoblade 2 and 3, with the Mechons mechs as enemies.
And i think it would be awesome seeing Weltall, E.S Dinah and Siren together.
Wooh! I'm not asking for the whole Xeno series. Only Xenoblade content will already be enough lol.
Anyone know if it's gonna ever be translated in English?
Probably not, the other two books aren’t
Is Sena Brighid’s daughter?
unconfirmed to my knowledge but I wouldn't be surprised
I think it was deconfirmed but I’m not entirely sure
So... Rex has 3 kids or did they not answer that one?
My idea for the mythra kid as a mc in xb4 is just a blond malos . Purple core crystal and all.XD
I think this comment from one of the videos I saw somewhere last year, that theorized and thought about how the core crystal went into Noah's sword being a thing. And in that comment, someone said "He threw them into the ocean. _Where they used to be"_ Making a play on words for one of Xenoblade 2's songs. Edit: I mixed up the songs earlier before finding the comment from the other video again. Because Pyra and Mythra at the beginning of Xenoblade 2 we found them at the bottom of the ocean. And now back to the ocean they go.
Doesn’t that kind of undermine how Pyra/Mythra were trying to find a place in the world and it was with Rex?
@@Doze1202 The point of their comment was irony. In how all of this ended up looping back around to them being at the ocean.
Also other than for symbolism, it's still have two things of where it's still attached to his blade, which he can summon at any time. And secondly this is Aionios, which gets undone in the end anyways. So you know, still reasons to dunk on Noah.
Ah, ok. But still, they do realize since Aionios no longer exists and everything returns to its point in time, Fiora, Pyra and Mythra are fine, right? The Sword of Origin isn’t at the bottom of a nonexistent ocean. I will agree Noah shouldn’t have thrown it, tho. Maybe they should’ve put it in the field where we see the Monado in the opening screen of the first game
Safe to say Noah is gonna get jumped by shulk and Rex for throwing there wife’s into the sea
And with malos I think it more like the case of pneuma remaking malos core crystal like she did with pyra and mythra as a gift of a new better life as he was fucked when he was awakened by Amalthus now whether it’s a new personality or just malos like what she did with pyra and mythra is to be seem
I love love love the Malos delusions here and I big agree
I am here for all the delusions
I believe it's going to be Xenoblade X because it's going to explain the connection
OOH! I'd actually like that! That'd be fire!
I hope we see Malos again somehow. He was a great character
I hope so too, I wouldn't be mad if we didn't cause I love his arc, but I think there is more that can be done with the character as I talk about in my more recent Malos theory vid
Does this community meet somewhere outside of YT and /v/?
We have a discord in the description of all my vids! Feel free to join!
Fior or Fiora?
Also, how do you turn a human into a sword?
Shintoism, the game is heavily based on it. If you have a soul, it takes form. Depending on how you are. Fiora has connections with Meyneth so her soul takes shape of a sword.
the sword is made from origin metal. origin metal holds souls. it is that simple.
I NEED A BIGGER GUN in 4k hd
I NEED
We see in game that Matthew knuckle was hosting pneuma but is it confirmed that his knuckle was re purposed as Noah Veiled sword? his sword never glow green it gLow blue!
Also N hosting Logos? Every moebius weapon's already glow purple like Logos how we ware supposed to know?
Lucky seven is fiora? It is her Robotic mechon body that was re purposed as Lucky seven? The sword is powered by the souls within Origin
Noah's blade glows green a few times throughout base game, as does Matthew's Fist at the end of FR. Noah's blade never glowed blue. It's never been explicitly confirmed that Noah's blade is the same blade Matthew used, but considering how eerily similar their designs are and how both weapons contain Pneuma, I find it unlikely that they are separate weapons. It's very obvious with hindsight.
In the base game of 3, it's not really indicated that Malos is present within N's Sword of the End, however FR makes it very clear during the finale. Notably that both times Rex mentions a "they" during the final battle, the camera immediately pans to Matthew's Gauntlets and N's Sword, with both weapons reacting to each other. FR makes it incredibly obvious that Malos was in N's Sword of the End. Although we never knew to what extent he was in the blade until now.
Lucky Seven contains Fiora's essence/her soul. Apparently this wasn't common knowledge during development which is kinda BS ngl. Regardless, Fiora is just there now. It doesn't invalidate any lore or anything. It's just really weird.
So outside of Fiora, a lot of the new lore drops were already in the game and presented to the player, we are mostly just getting confirmations.
@@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg does Noah sword glow green even with the upgradded sword? i ave replayed thE game like 10X i never saw a green glow only sometimes wen Lucky seven draw its green and yellow and the gloves buffs ave green also yes Noah sword glow blue wen activated
As for the souls thing Origin metal as the property of resonating with souls from Origin Both moebius and the ouroburos are powered by different souls from Origin, Moebius by those who are effraid of the future and the ouroburos who want to face the uncertainty of the future Lucky seven is made of Origin metal and is powered by souls within Origin During the flute scene with Y Noah use his sword to call Miyabi soul from Origin wile they play Miyabi song to bring her back
Lucky seven was comissioned by Melia
@@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg unless he meant that Fiora Mechon body was used to make Lucky seven i dont anderstand Lucky seven is powered by a bunch of souls wen Noah draw Lucky seven picture Shulk reyn fiora sharla dunban riki vanea atharon etc giving energy to the blade as for the veiled sword containing the pneuma core i highly doupt Pneuma and logos was already used to create the full real ouroburos form and we dont see the Core again after the fight the core coud even ben broken in the process i believe that Nia in the main game ave the pneuma core first her 2 pneuma sword in her back second she generated the ouroburos stone and third she ad M as a contact! What if after the events of FR M gave the pneuma core to Nia? its all speculation but that what i believe
Wow. Fiora being lucky seven is wild. So this means that in xenoblade 3, fiora is more powerful than penuma.
Ya know, fiora being so powerful in xeno 2...was that foreshadowing?
But what i dont get, how did pyra/mythra go from matthews fists of the end to noah and his sword sheath? How did that happen?
"Reyn kills Zanza by hitting the yoinky sploinky in a cutscene"
😂😂
So there was actually a debate if N had Malos? How? They literally did the paning thing twice...
I always felt it was obvious but some people don't like to take the extra or even sometimes small leap unless it's spelled out, being skeptical is good and all but sometimes obvious connections and obvious for a reason imo
Hmmm i think xenoblade chronicles trilogy is already perfect... Please consider if the 4th release would be a story so stretched like the 4th Matrix film 😂 which should never be released
Damn it I was hoping Frank would be revealed as the Xeno 4 Protagonist name😔
all in due time
People wanna be vague as hell for no reason in the Xenoblade fandom? What a shocker. I have to literally beg people to explain what happens in saga and gears to me and even then they try to be subtle it's annoying being so secretive isn't hiding spoilers it's gatekeeping newcomer's
Yeah some people have good intentions and all that and I can definitely appreciate a community that tries to actively not spoil cool reveals for people, but at the same time it makes aggregating info on something I don't have kind of hard sometimes 🤣
I really hope along with a Xenoblade X game for the Switch 2 we also get a Xenoblade Warriors game where it's set after Xenoblade 3. That way we can the story of following up on the main series characters and answer a lot of the stuff Takahashi is keeping secret for now. But at the same time still getting an X port or sequel as well. Since Xenoblade Warriors will be done by Koei Tecmo while Monolithsoft focuses on X. Just make it so Mythra's kid is the protagonist of the Warriors game.
Fior-A!
Got to love New Englander accents!
@@perrygrimwood4901 for real
You are wrong in your prediction for New Super Xenoblade Chronicles U. Sharla will be Zanza. And Z. At the same time.
Yeah that's smart, not sure how I didn't see that
Im getting dejavu on dejavu here. I feel Iike this the 3rd time you've made this same video.😊
So Eunie melias and shulk daughter Is confirmed? 👀
Nope. Melia is still single and ready to mingle!
So who's Nikol's mom if Fiora is Lucky 7? 😂
...plz learn to say "FiorA"
I have a theory. But let me set y'all up with a scenario.
After the events of Xenoblade 2, the party went their separate ways for a few years. Rex and Pyra (and ONLY Rex and Pyra) got married and had a child, Glimmer. Eternally grateful for saving his life, Niall invites Nia to serve as Gormott's Consul as reparations are made and Mor Ardain restores Gormott's sovereignty with Lady Nia becoming Regent and restoring the Eschell name to nobility. During this, the two fall in love, marry and have a child, Mio. Mythra travels Elysium (shortly thereafter named "Agnus") alone on a journey of self-discovery. During her travels, she befriends a man, the two fall in love, having a child. Nothing is known of this man.
Years later, the party reunites to celebrate the anniversary of the founding of Agnus. Emperor Niall commissions a professional photographer to take a photograph for posterity which will be called "The Saviors of Alrest." Rex, Pyra, Mythra, Nia, Dromarch, Tora, Poppi, Morag, Bridgid, Zeke and Pandoria were intended to be the only ones to appear in the photograph. But Queen Nia's handmaidens were having a hard time placating the three babies as they got really fussy without their mothers. After some coercion from his wife, Niall acquiesced to allow his daughter and children of the Aegises appear in the historic photograph.
This is my theory/headcanon of why Rex is still absolutely a gigachad, just not for the reasons he appears to be in the photo at the end of XC3. Saving the entire world at 15 is enough to earn him that title.
Nope
@@leninmendez6227 Yeah. Most likely a HUGE "nope."