What Is The Best Knife Steel?

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  • @rayb9321
    @rayb9321 10 місяців тому +101

    Y is definitely better then X. I mean X is super cool and all but Y is just so much more useful in the day to day.

    • @jimbeaux89
      @jimbeaux89 9 місяців тому +3

      Meh, Y is alright. Blade retention is rather poor. I find myself drawn to X for its versatility.

  • @classiarius
    @classiarius 10 місяців тому +414

    The best knife steel is the one you don't own yet.

    • @MichaelBertolino
      @MichaelBertolino 10 місяців тому +9

      No. No it's not. Magnacut 🐐🐐🐐

    • @StoneHands25
      @StoneHands25 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@@MichaelBertolinoyou're right it's definitely not magnacut

    • @fredp1983
      @fredp1983 10 місяців тому +3

      I know right... but it should be the one you own

    • @MichaelBertolino
      @MichaelBertolino 10 місяців тому +6

      @@StoneHands25 It is... Magnacut is da GOAT

    • @rustyknifelover4463
      @rustyknifelover4463 10 місяців тому +1

      LOL absolutely.

  • @homeslicesharpening
    @homeslicesharpening 9 місяців тому +8

    This video is well done - I appreciate you not overly "taking a side" when there is so much performance nuance to edge retention/wear resistance, carbon & carbide size, corrosion resistance, toughness - and less understood attributes such as edge stability, microstructure, impact/shock resistance, heat treatment, geometry, sharpening method micro-physics, and hardening potential. Well done - cheers.

  • @jacobmckinney2607
    @jacobmckinney2607 10 місяців тому +40

    K390
    M4
    Cruwear
    Magnacut
    These have been doing what I need for a while now honestly

    • @Thekulprit92
      @Thekulprit92 6 місяців тому +2

      In that order as well

    • @lordtartarsauceb8348
      @lordtartarsauceb8348 6 місяців тому +2

      Only 1 of those looks like you could give it a good edge in the field.

    • @Thekulprit92
      @Thekulprit92 6 місяців тому +1

      @lordtartarsauceb8348 a small diamond stone or spyderco sharpmaker can make quick work out of these or an easy touch up

    • @retardno002
      @retardno002 4 місяці тому

      ​@@lordtartarsauceb8348 I'll make sure to have a 1095 sharpened crowbar with me 'in the field' to make you happy, ok? I won't use it, it's only there to make you happy. Are you happy? I hope you're happy. I'm a man of my word.

  • @Haywoodjablomie100
    @Haywoodjablomie100 10 місяців тому +39

    "Trash can steel is the best" - Huusk 😂

  • @KPHVAC
    @KPHVAC 10 місяців тому +17

    S30V and S35VN are great all around blades. I love 20CV as well. There are a lot of good knife steels these days!

  • @REAPER-1xxx
    @REAPER-1xxx 10 місяців тому +6

    Well said. I agree with everything. I took the path of buying many knives over many years and have developed my preferences. An attribute never mentioned I value has been referred to as front end sharpness after I describe it. Working edge retention isn’t something I care about on my EDC. But how much front end sharpness, how long it lasts and how easy it is to maintain along with lateral edge durability are primary factors in my EDC steel preference.

    • @j1166240
      @j1166240 5 місяців тому +1

      I totally agree with your view on usefulness for an EDC knife. The best for me is Victorinox steel. I can get front end sharpness to my liking quickly and rust is never an issue. Super steels are too hard to sharpen to my satisfaction. I think the tempering has a large affect on getting the edge I want. Geometry also makes a huge impact. Victorinox just has the best QC overall that I have seen. I've spent way too much money over the years chasing better only to be disappointed and not wanting to carry or use it.

  • @magaman3048
    @magaman3048 10 місяців тому +27

    The VG10 steel in my Delica 4 has always worked for me

    • @PoetFisherman
      @PoetFisherman 10 місяців тому +2

      It helps that Spyderco tends to have very good heat treatment protocols for a mass production company.

    • @trackpackgt877
      @trackpackgt877 10 місяців тому

      same here bro!!!!

    • @joek9962
      @joek9962 10 місяців тому +3

      I shunned VG10 at first, but I now greatly appreciate a Spydie FRN model in this steel.

    • @Jennie-w6n
      @Jennie-w6n 8 місяців тому +3

      @@PoetFisherman What doesn't help is Spyderco making very ugly knives

    • @PoetFisherman
      @PoetFisherman 8 місяців тому

      @@Jennie-w6n I suppose this is a good illustration of subjective beauty

  • @PoetFisherman
    @PoetFisherman 10 місяців тому +10

    Early on in my knife game I chased the 'super steels'. Then I got a good sharpening rig and a good strop. Sure, I still go after the new hotness from time to time.
    Heat treatment concern was my next evolution. I've found far too many manufacturers under cook their higher end steels and man has that saved me a truckload of money. Design and use case aside, I'll take a Civivi in 14C28N or Nitro-V over We's 20CV.

    • @MB-jg4tr
      @MB-jg4tr 10 місяців тому +4

      14C28N is one of the best knife steels IMO

    • @StuninRub
      @StuninRub 3 місяці тому

      You trust a company to heat treat a dog shit steel like 14C28N, but not that same company to heat treat their high-end premium 20CV?
      You must be the type of guy who would say a Corvette is a terrible car and the company doesn't know how to build cars, but a Chevy Camaro, now that's a real car and car company that knows how to build a car.

    • @PoetFisherman
      @PoetFisherman 3 місяці тому +1

      14c is much less finicky to properly mass heat treat than a more complex steel like 20cv. My examples of both from the same manufacturer have lead me to my opinion.
      I'm fine to differ with you on 14c being a "dog shit steel" and you assuming I am this kind of guy or that kind of guy. Value is subjective. Thanks for your opinion.

    • @empoweredshemphoward
      @empoweredshemphoward 3 місяці тому +1

      I have a couple knives in 14c, no complaints. The other dude is just talking 💩

  • @P1015532oni
    @P1015532oni 10 місяців тому +23

    After owning/ EDCing/ sharpening a truckload of knives of varying steels/ quality/ and manufacturers for the last 22 years, I’ve gone full circle and went back to humble roots and became pretty darn content. Amongst the plethora of knives I currently own, I keep coming back to these lowly three: Ontario RAT 2 in AUS-8, Cold Steel Mini-Recon Clip Point in AUS-10, and a Spyderco Persistence lightweight in 8cr13Mov. If you’ve used knives this long, you’ll realize that blade steel is not as important as people hype it up to be. There are many factors that makes a knife great and these factors vary in importance to different people. Super steels are a want, and it is OK to want them. But you don’t need them. I’m not telling you to NOT get super steels. What I’m telling you is to NOT judge how good a knife is by what steel it is made of.

    • @albsureinc23
      @albsureinc23 10 місяців тому +6

      Most people would be surprised how well budget steels will work on both folding and fixed blades

    • @andrewfournier8817
      @andrewfournier8817 10 місяців тому +3

      I tend to carry Opinels and SAKs, but I do like 14c28n if it's done nicely. Magnacut seems OK, tbh

    • @megacab
      @megacab 10 місяців тому +2

      I feel the same way. Steel isn't the main thing I look at when getting a knife. However, I carry a large inkosi and beat the hell out of it. Great knife for me.

    • @macdaddysmurf05
      @macdaddysmurf05 10 місяців тому

      that's a lot of words just to say you're poor

    • @P1015532oni
      @P1015532oni 10 місяців тому

      @@macdaddysmurf05 OK man… must be nice to have tons of money, like you. Wait, just let me get down on all fours so I could kiss your boots for a bit.

  • @BrentonCarr
    @BrentonCarr 10 місяців тому +84

    "7cr13 is the best steel" - Gerber

    • @nickedcr2320
      @nickedcr2320 10 місяців тому +5

      😂

    • @azraelsblade
      @azraelsblade 10 місяців тому +3

      😂😂😂

    • @jlogue751
      @jlogue751 10 місяців тому +4

      Crkt begs to differ..

    • @Hungrybird474
      @Hungrybird474 10 місяців тому +2

      Hehe

    • @ChairmanKimchi
      @ChairmanKimchi 10 місяців тому

      Bitch please, generic nameless “high carbon stainless steel” is the best.

  • @RM-xd5gp
    @RM-xd5gp 10 місяців тому +6

    I've long thought that Cruwear is under-appreciated. For a tool steel, in most environments, it's always been pretty rust resistance. Tough as nails, and holds an edge well. Seems to sharpen up pretty easily too.

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 10 місяців тому

      One of my EDC folders is Cruwear and I've had no issues with it at all. It's been great.

    • @mikafoxx2717
      @mikafoxx2717 10 місяців тому +4

      Among people that have tried everything, it seems that CruWear, K390, MagnaCut, rex 45, and humble 14c28n are among their absolute favorites.

  • @robreadinger5340
    @robreadinger5340 10 місяців тому +30

    1. heat treat
    2. heat treat
    3. geometry
    4.type of steel
    the most important factors

    • @thewrxshop8213
      @thewrxshop8213 3 місяці тому

      What is the best type of knife design and geometry in your opinion?

    • @mikafoxx2717
      @mikafoxx2717 Місяць тому

      1. Geometry
      2. Heat treat
      3. Steel type
      55hrc k390 would hold a shitty edge because it'll just mushroom the cutting edge before the carbides help you.
      Geometry of a brittle steel will make a tough knife and cutting edge, and a tough hard steel will hold a fine geometry and give much higher edge retention.
      Steel gives the edge rention and toughness hardness balance, but some are worse than others objectively, but the geometry and having it hard enough matter a lot.
      Soft edges just mean you need thicker bevels and get even less edge retention, usually in a steel that's already super tough like 420HC. It's like taking a monster truck to a racetrack, it's maximized for the wrong thing. MagnaCut at 62 will do everything well and the geometry will dictate if it's a competition chopper or a Japanese kitchen knife.

  • @FFPM365
    @FFPM365 10 місяців тому +6

    I like this style. Way to go Blade HQ!

  • @UberTankred
    @UberTankred 5 місяців тому +12

    I have a friend who knows everything about knife steel properties and is disgusted that I even own 20 Dollar knives. I'm not bothered by the weaknesses of some of my knives, because I simply clean, sharpen and wax them to keep them in shape. His knives look pristine, because he never uses them. I'm not a dick about it, because he provided useful information for special future-heirloom knives I bought. But seriously. Even cheap steel is still steel!

    • @JamezEd1tz
      @JamezEd1tz 4 місяці тому +3

      Great points. However when doing lots of work, you want a steel that can hold an edge

    • @UberTankred
      @UberTankred 4 місяці тому +3

      @@JamezEd1tz Of course, I'm not saying that it doesn't matter, but my EDC for cutting baloney, paracord and packages is an affordable Kershaw Culpepper that looks so pretty, old-school and modern at the same time. We have good knives here in Germany, but unfortunately there is a tendency to make all knives look "tactical" which I find pretentious. To me it feels like buying an Iron Cross/Purple Heart. I also have expensive knives I use for serious work when I'm hiding in my garden shack, but they don't look nice.

  • @kushviper
    @kushviper 10 місяців тому +46

    Sometimes I look at my old PM2 and think S30V is outdated and lame. Then I remember it’s a far superior steel to basically any blade made in all history until the last 40 years. 😅

    • @NitrogenEyes
      @NitrogenEyes 10 місяців тому +3

      I feel the same about my S30V Para3. I keep wishing it was Magnacut or something newer and fancier but remember for years this thing has taken a beating and keeps ending up in my pocket over newer knives I’ve gotten. That being said, I will 100% be getting a Salt PM2

    • @PoetFisherman
      @PoetFisherman 10 місяців тому +4

      So true.
      I consistently get better performance out of Spyderco's S30V than I do We Knives' 20CV.

    • @charlesburtis2442
      @charlesburtis2442 10 місяців тому +3

      Same, hard to justify replacing it.

    • @mikeappleget482
      @mikeappleget482 10 місяців тому +3

      @@charlesburtis2442Spyderco’s S45 is pretty dang impressive.

    • @charlesburtis2442
      @charlesburtis2442 10 місяців тому +2

      It’s definitely tempting

  • @mattkeene3084
    @mattkeene3084 10 місяців тому +13

    S35vn is well rounded

    • @LostTrailX
      @LostTrailX 10 місяців тому +4

      I’ve always felt like a well treated s35vn could go up against magnacut honestly

    • @PoetFisherman
      @PoetFisherman 10 місяців тому +2

      When done right, it's in the top of my list of favorites. The Spydercos with the blue FRN scales; man the S35VN is so good on those.

    • @MB-jg4tr
      @MB-jg4tr 10 місяців тому +2

      S35VN on my Cold Steel Recon1 is extremely well treated

    • @BL-yj2wp
      @BL-yj2wp 3 місяці тому +1

      @@LostTrailX
      Unless that Magnacut is way too soft (which some manufacturers do, it needs to be hardened to 64HRC for optimal performance) it will hold an edge about three times as long. If they are both at 58HRC they might perform very similarly.

  • @alexmegavolt9010
    @alexmegavolt9010 10 місяців тому +16

    Magnacut appeared, everyone wanted knives made of this steel. Sales of knives made of other steels have plummeted. Now all the sellers have run to tell me that others steels good too. Of course, you need to sell stocks of this stuff from warehouses.

    • @Trolldaddy5
      @Trolldaddy5 10 місяців тому +4

      Sales of other knives haven't plummeted. The vast majority of people buying knives are not buying magnacut. Most people dont know or care about steel, and most people are cheap and not willing to spend for even s30v, let alone magnacut.

    • @Phaminator525
      @Phaminator525 8 місяців тому

      @@Trolldaddy5yeah those are the people who use their knives and are not knife nuts. But the knife nuts are the people who these company’s target because there are weirdos who will buy 10+ CRKs. A knife that’s supposed to be a buy once cry once type of knife is being over bought and out of stock by knife nuts. And once they’ve sold these gullible office dwellers on magnacut they buy em up like candy. Literally printing money. While magnacut is an objectively amazing steel knife nuts buy it for the novelty. They don’t actually use their knives. They play with them.

  • @notacooldudewithanattitude2731
    @notacooldudewithanattitude2731 10 місяців тому +1

    Knife hobby is an N+1 hobby. there is always a room for another purchase. :) currently own a Tenacious, Resilience, Mora 546, Rat 1 in D2 and Esee 4HM. Planning to get a Dragonfly 2 in H2 soon.

  • @kdingo6596
    @kdingo6596 10 місяців тому +4

    Tell me more about “edge geometry and grind angles “

  • @tala12
    @tala12 8 місяців тому +1

    I think for edc knives, edge retention is the go-to for me. I don't have to sharpen it every single week. it is really satisfying.

  • @EggsOverSleazy
    @EggsOverSleazy 10 місяців тому +16

    3V for my bark river for batonning and tom follery outdoors. M390 for my daily folder.

  • @TerminalM193
    @TerminalM193 9 місяців тому +1

    Became an immediate fan of magnacut. I personally don't need anything better. Great corrosion resistance for my humid environment and stays sharp for a very long time and is pretty easy to sharpen.

  • @mesniburek1652
    @mesniburek1652 5 місяців тому +1

    I think an important aspect is also price - different price ranges bring different steels to the table and you should consider if that steel is worth that price tag. And also another thing is ease of sharpening or ease/capability of restoring an edge with a strop which might be very important to people who don't have a lot of sharpening knowledge and equipment or people who for example do a lot of backpacking and have a need to restore that edge on the go in the woods for example. Heat treat is also very important... a budget steel done properly will be better than a premium steel with a poor heat treat.

  • @cwsmith17
    @cwsmith17 10 місяців тому +3

    Keep these videos coming guys!

  • @loosieclocker
    @loosieclocker 10 місяців тому +25

    Just got my first Magnacut Kershaw Livewire. Impressed so far

    • @PoetFisherman
      @PoetFisherman 10 місяців тому +5

      Nice. It's a great knife.
      I picked up a double edged model and the spine edge was a bit rough so I sharpened both edges to two different grits. It's been cool to have a super refined edge and a more toothy one on the same blade. Fun stuff.

    • @SlothhhKinggg
      @SlothhhKinggg 10 місяців тому +3

      Gotta love Kershaw. It's been my favorite brand by far for years now.

    • @TerminalM193
      @TerminalM193 9 місяців тому +3

      I got the tanto magnacut livewire. I love the knife but it sadly was poorly sharpened at the factory. Spent a good 45 minutes getting it nice and sharp and it's been an absolute champ ever since. Been about 4 months now and other than a few strop sessions it's still mad sharp.

    • @PoetFisherman
      @PoetFisherman 9 місяців тому +1

      @TerminalM193 I of course am not a fan of poorly sharpened blades from the factory but I suppose the silver lining would be at least now you have the worst of the burned edge off.
      I like this knife so much I've been seriously considering getting that tanto. It's a very slick looking blade.

    • @evaneason6906
      @evaneason6906 13 днів тому

      Considered the Kershaw bel-air?

  • @sirdudeness1386
    @sirdudeness1386 9 місяців тому +1

    Have the blurple spyderco 2 S 110 V steel and have been loving it.

  • @ralphk9251
    @ralphk9251 10 місяців тому +2

    Nice video. You definitely kicked it up a notch. Great production quality. I like the background especially in the opening seconds

  • @valderhide1674
    @valderhide1674 10 місяців тому +1

    Pretty good timing here since I am currently trying to decide on whether to wait for the Spyderco Military 2 to be available in S90v or buy the already available S30c version

    • @DuhYaThink
      @DuhYaThink 10 місяців тому

      I jumped on the s30v version and love it. If you like PM2’s you will LOVE the Military 2. Cants wait for the cruwear version 😅

    • @valderhide1674
      @valderhide1674 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DuhYaThink This is going to be my first Spyderco Knife. Second that I have bought for myself

    • @DuhYaThink
      @DuhYaThink 10 місяців тому

      @@valderhide1674 Very nice 👍🏻

  • @marcdee4427
    @marcdee4427 9 місяців тому +1

    Is Swiss Army knife steel any good?

  • @OnlyGamingClips
    @OnlyGamingClips 10 місяців тому +3

    My personal fav is CruWear.

  • @WorkSharpOutdoor
    @WorkSharpOutdoor 10 місяців тому +1

    Edge geometry and grind angles... We can help with that!

  • @12345678927164
    @12345678927164 10 місяців тому +1

    Wanna try 3V. I hate when my edge rolls from accidentally hitting a stable or something.

  • @JoJo-JoJo-JoJo
    @JoJo-JoJo-JoJo 3 місяці тому

    Awesome vid. I thought I was subscribed, I am now. I bought the BHQ exclusive Kershaw Launch 4 in MagnaCut & Ultem scale. It's a sweet little auto for us stuck behind enemy lines in the P.R.K. I'm in the sandy eggo sector.

  • @nathanmeyer3855
    @nathanmeyer3855 10 місяців тому +10

    Avoid the urge to go with the trend for a second camera shooting from the side of the face... It's just awkward! Good information otherwise!

  • @BrianMatheson
    @BrianMatheson 4 місяці тому

    This is the first video of yours I’ve came across. Great information, thanks. Subscribed 👍

    • @BladeHQ
      @BladeHQ  3 місяці тому

      Awesome, thank you!

  • @alexferrara9287
    @alexferrara9287 10 місяців тому

    Depending on heat treatment and what type of performance you prefer, MagnaCut can flex into multiple uses. MagnaCut ranges between CruWear & 4V in toughness, between S35VN & M390 in edge retention, and right under LC200N/Vanax in corrosion resistance.

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 10 місяців тому

      Yep. The best heat treatment on Magnacut I have that has been a great and versatile blade is from MKC. It's simply superior to what I have from others.

    • @alexferrara9287
      @alexferrara9287 10 місяців тому

      @@Swearengen1980 Theres quite a few manufacturers that do MagnaCut correctly. It just depends on your price range and what you’re going to use it for. Mind you, edge geometry and the process of how the HRC is reached, is arguably more important. Is your MKC model the only MagnaCut knife you have/experienced?

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 10 місяців тому

      ​@@alexferrara9287 Nope. A Bradford, Kershaw, Spyderco and MKC. In terms of quality, I'd put them at MKC, Spyderco, Bradford, Kershaw....despite me absolutely hating Spyderco's style (great knives, just ugly to me).

  • @goldgymca
    @goldgymca 3 місяці тому

    For light EDC tasks my favorite knife blade steel are AUS8, 14C28N. Budget steels but easy to sharpen and no corrosion at all.

  • @OmegaCaldereroid
    @OmegaCaldereroid 10 місяців тому +1

    thanks George, a fan from New Zealand (fush un chups bruh) since the Ben and Zac days... and you are living up to their standards, keep it up... but please, don't leave... 😂

  • @Logan-vw8bg
    @Logan-vw8bg 10 місяців тому +2

    Well said George!

  • @AJSteele-xh7bh
    @AJSteele-xh7bh 6 місяців тому

    What was the cpm 3v knife?

  • @pkjmfineart1593
    @pkjmfineart1593 7 місяців тому

    Subbed. Awesome channel thx. I sharpen regularly using supposed "Tungsten Carbide" blades from large paper cutters modified for my simple machines.
    These blades are readily available online in bulk. I'm probably looking to experimenting with making my own blades after your recommendations. 😉

  • @jamesfair9751
    @jamesfair9751 10 місяців тому

    Tbh my Microtech MSI with the m390MK has been working out perfectly for me. Holds its edge extremely well holds up to the light prying I do with it (I have a pocket pry for prying) and even in heavy sweating not a spot of corrosion or even discoloration.

  • @bullridermusic2054
    @bullridermusic2054 10 місяців тому +8

    You know what steel surprised me the most S35VN on my protech SBR with a blade under 3 inches. I batoned (YES BATONED) a 2 inch diameter sapling tree. After I could still shave with it, I could not believe it.

    • @Dinksonly21
      @Dinksonly21 10 місяців тому +2

      That’s pretty normal for even non powder steel

  • @benthephilosopher
    @benthephilosopher 10 місяців тому +1

    Surprised that you didn't mention CruWear. Even Dr. Thomas will admit that it is better than Magnacut in edge retention and toughness, and still has pretty decent corrosion resistance, great even for a "high carbon" steel.

  • @dayannahkali
    @dayannahkali 7 місяців тому

    Hardness is often neglected, but imho it is a key factor in a lot of edc tasks. Toughness combines with it to give a good edge stability geometry wise. Those two attributes dictate how thin the blade can be. Then abrasion resistance plays its role in cutting abrasive stuff, which is quite frequent too, and depending on the climate, corrosion resistance will better edge stability and geometry at the very apex over time.
    So I think the «best» steel should be over 63 hrc and quite tough, with a lot of high carbides, K390 is the ideal candidate for extra thin geometries, Magnacut can be useful for saltwater activities or kitchen knives.
    I think a good hard D2 is tough enough, stainless enough and will keep a far better edge than 14C or NitroV etc on a budget knife. 154CM and VG10 can be nice too, love how 154CM bites.
    I find S90V to have the best chainsaw effect and keep it for very long, this thing is a little scary I love it.

  • @GooseMilk7
    @GooseMilk7 10 місяців тому

    Whats the hatchet on the back wall next to the hammer?

  • @viscousmartincarey7031
    @viscousmartincarey7031 6 місяців тому

    12c27 is tougher than 3v?

  • @mateuszmakowski9974
    @mateuszmakowski9974 10 місяців тому +1

    Can someone tell me if D2 is good ? I got my qsp penguin and im in love with this knife, so i wanna know on what should i be carefull

    • @BladeHQ
      @BladeHQ  10 місяців тому +2

      D2 is a great steel. It has a solid balance of edge retention and toughness. It's often called "semi-stainless," so it will resist some corrosion, but I've heard from folks in humid climates that they occasionally see rust spots on it. But it's a great, well-balanced steel. I'm old enough to remember when it was only available on high-price knives. The fact that you can get in budget-friendly knives today is awesome. -George

    • @PoetFisherman
      @PoetFisherman 10 місяців тому +2

      Great edge retention for the money.
      As a severely corrosion averse type, I kept away from it for a long time. Eventually I bought a CJRB Agave in D2. I've treated it like my stainless knives for two years. No coating it with oil or EDCi.
      About a month ago I saw a tiiiiiny spot of rust on the forward finger choil, probably from sweaty hands in summer months. It came off with a rust remover with ease. Other than that, in two years the blade has only darkened some.
      I'm much less snobby about D2 these days.

    • @mateuszmakowski9974
      @mateuszmakowski9974 10 місяців тому

      thanks !
      @@BladeHQ

    • @Jakoshdw
      @Jakoshdw 28 днів тому

      ​@@BladeHQ- I enjoy my D2 Deckhand from Kizer. I'm in Florida and wear it as a neck knife. I had spotting once ... but cured that by using KPL Knifeshield when I clean the tape adhesive off the blade. It's been my experience that unless you are actively dunking your D2 in salt water... as long as you oil or wipe you blade in a protective every day or so you should be good. Obviously... if you've used the blade heavily and worn the coating off you might want to recoat the same night.

  • @Redroad999
    @Redroad999 10 місяців тому +2

    Enjoyable video, thanks!

  • @RodClark
    @RodClark 10 місяців тому +4

    Buy a knife from a knifemaker you admire and trust that they've made the right decision for you.

    • @doransponsel4813
      @doransponsel4813 10 місяців тому

      Nah you gotta understand what steel is right for what application. A lot of knife makers make a variety with a range of applications, if you plan on batoning and and beating up the blade, better get one made out of tough steel. Want a knife that's going to retain its edge, for say hunting/game processing etc., get something with more edge retention like s30 on up, in a controlled environment where edge retention is everything, maxamet is your best bet. Underwater rescue in salt water? Lc200

  • @DuhYaThink
    @DuhYaThink 10 місяців тому +8

    CpmCruwear has been one of my favorites.

  • @braydenledbetter1289
    @braydenledbetter1289 10 місяців тому +1

    I have not tried MagnaCut yet but my favorite steel is the s45 that is on my inkosi

    • @DuhYaThink
      @DuhYaThink 10 місяців тому

      I have a few MagnaCut Spyderco’s. And have used the Native 5 lw serrated a bunch and it’s fantastic 👋

  • @TeddyBoy7796
    @TeddyBoy7796 10 місяців тому

    Brilliant video, very interesting, made me laugh at the end when George is standing out in the rain for no reason 😂👍🏻

  • @Performancetimely513
    @Performancetimely513 8 місяців тому

    Actually "it depends, buy a bunch of knives and find out the best steel for you" pretty much fits my tendency and is the perfect answer for me

  • @jayski9410
    @jayski9410 10 місяців тому +2

    How come we never wound up with these kind of debates when we talk about hammers, axes, crowbars, screw drivers, or pliers?

    • @Freakmaster480
      @Freakmaster480 10 місяців тому +1

      People 100% do, you're just not digging deep enough to find it.

    • @EternityUnknown
      @EternityUnknown 9 місяців тому

      Lol. You'd rather be talking about pliers? 😂

  • @MarkBartholomew-qy6ze
    @MarkBartholomew-qy6ze Місяць тому +1

    Outstanding job my friend this is one of the most thorough shows I have ever seen God bless you brother keep up the great work.

  • @Hungrybird474
    @Hungrybird474 10 місяців тому +1

    I ll use and sharpen anything . Learn to sharpen and all will be well . That new Hapstone rs is pretty sweet for pocket knives imo . 👍🦅

  • @treffensaintjohnllc2913
    @treffensaintjohnllc2913 4 місяці тому

    Can you recommend a ultra-premium steel for Arizona law enforcement knives? Due to our low humidity, we do not need corrosion resistance, but toughness and edge retention (wear resistance). Our cops use their knives for everything! - screwdrivers, cutting through fences, slicing seat belts from burn victims, et al.
    We do not need a recommendation on a specific brand of knives - we will find a manufacturer once we learn which steel is ideal for Arizona LEOs. Can you make a recommendation?

    • @BladeHQ
      @BladeHQ  2 місяці тому

      CPM CruWear or CPM M4 are my recommendations. Both are super tough and have stupendous edge retention. Neither is stainless, but it sounds like that's not an issue. There are a ton of great knives made with both of these steels, so you'll have no trouble finding your ideal blades. Thanks for watching!

  • @BigfootBeerandGear
    @BigfootBeerandGear 10 місяців тому

    Great video! Thanks for the info, George.

  • @stevelewis6259
    @stevelewis6259 10 місяців тому

    Out of all the different steels I have, Including M390,20cv, Nitro V and others. I'm liking my blah blah with D2. Like anything a little maintenance goes a long way. I kinda like to try the powder steel version but it slipped my mind what it's called. It's something that I heard quickly referenced and that's why I can't remember.

    • @gmoorach
      @gmoorach 10 місяців тому +1

      CPM D2

  • @mikeprue2707
    @mikeprue2707 7 місяців тому

    I really like the cpm cru wear. Its holds an edge, very tough and easy to shatpen.

  • @chrisreuther4546
    @chrisreuther4546 10 місяців тому

    That was a great video George!

  • @lordtartarsauceb8348
    @lordtartarsauceb8348 6 місяців тому

    Does anyone have a 4max belt clip? I hooked the belt clip and instead of the knife coming out of my poclet it permanently bent.

  • @heavychevy4616
    @heavychevy4616 10 місяців тому +1

    great video guys, thank u

  • @massimobargagna5641
    @massimobargagna5641 10 місяців тому +1

    Well done Broh!

  • @stuartrollings602
    @stuartrollings602 10 місяців тому

    Great show George…thanks!

  • @willthompson9073
    @willthompson9073 3 місяці тому +2

    Honestly if d2 is heat treated properly and maintained just a bit its gonna do 99.99% of everything most people would need it to do i would call myself a steel snob but its really really mostly unnecessary

  • @kennethwatson4489
    @kennethwatson4489 10 місяців тому

    Got a Buck folding Alpha hunter in 154. VERY TOUGH. Got a maxamet spydie N5 for abrasion resistance and LC200N N5. Got it covered yo

  • @halvelife
    @halvelife 10 місяців тому +1

    George, did you script this? Great video.

    • @BladeHQ
      @BladeHQ  10 місяців тому +4

      I did! We tried something new, and I like how it turned out. Thanks for watching! -George

  • @Gee_Dub
    @Gee_Dub 10 місяців тому +5

    Vibrainium is obviously the best knife steel.

    • @patriot925
      @patriot925 6 місяців тому

      Wolverine would disagree with you. Adamantium all the way!!

  • @awPhIO-1.618
    @awPhIO-1.618 5 місяців тому

    could you please do a vid on ou-31 ?

  • @TheStockpile
    @TheStockpile 10 місяців тому +2

    Solid video! 👊🏼👊🏼

  • @nickuschrist5967
    @nickuschrist5967 10 місяців тому

    20cv all day I enjoy my magnacut but I have tons sharpen it 5 times for every 1 time one 20cv and I've never had a problem with corrosion with either

  • @nibrasge6375
    @nibrasge6375 10 місяців тому +1

    A great to this question: 'Carry more than one knife and each has a different blade steel.'
    😮

    • @wesmccage
      @wesmccage 2 місяці тому

      A nice knife clipped on and in the pocket an inexpensive small light knife for anything that might damage your knife or to loan to dumb asses that never carry a knife.

  • @dalelane1948
    @dalelane1948 Місяць тому

    What is CPM?

  • @MrDarrylR
    @MrDarrylR 8 місяців тому

    Just the three coordinates of wear resistance, toughness, and corrosion resistance provide a 3 dimensional cloud. Add in production knife heat treatment and blade geometries, and its more dimensions than we evolved to understand.
    That said, there are bargain and best options on all these axes.
    Wear resistance: D2 (non-stainless) is a bargain. S90V (stainless) is best among common knives.
    Toughness: 14C28N (stainless) is a bargain. 3V (non-stainless) is best ".
    Corrosion resistance: H2 is a bargain. Vanax 37/Superclean is best ".
    Balanced? K390 (non-stainless) may be the best knife steel ever, but it isn't very corrosion resistant. Closest stainless in this multidimensional space is MagnaCut.

  • @e90steez
    @e90steez 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video!

  • @novanoble181
    @novanoble181 3 місяці тому

    5:05 “I assure you you have to film in the rain, it is CRUCIAL to letting the viewer know what steel they should look for”

  • @WilliacLHA5
    @WilliacLHA5 10 місяців тому

    Fun episode. I can't wait for more, maybe even longer.

  • @rustyknifelover4463
    @rustyknifelover4463 10 місяців тому

    Four traits Toughness, Hardness, Resistance to corrosion and ease of sharpening.

  • @danielames3937
    @danielames3937 4 місяці тому

    Why H2 over LC200N?

  • @Deer3083
    @Deer3083 9 місяців тому

    S90v is my favorite steel. It's what I look for in a knife now.

  • @josephmartin1540
    @josephmartin1540 10 місяців тому +1

    OOOOOOOO! Excellent!

  • @shadowjezzter
    @shadowjezzter 10 місяців тому +1

    I live in a dry environment, corrosion resistant means basically nothing to me, a good tough knife that will take a beating with minimal care is what i like

    • @MB-jg4tr
      @MB-jg4tr 10 місяців тому +3

      52100, 5160, CPM-3V, D2

    • @shadowjezzter
      @shadowjezzter 10 місяців тому

      @@MB-jg4tr thx for the recommendations, been liking esee’s 1095 will have a look at those steels though

    • @ShoahBiz
      @ShoahBiz 10 місяців тому +1

      Esee runs their 1095 soft since they’re survival knives and they don’t want to deal with warranties left and right. Find some 52100 or 80crv2 at 61-62rc to see how great a simple low alloy can be.

  • @yankee2yankee
    @yankee2yankee Місяць тому

    Yes, it is… Of course there is no single best steel for all applications, nor are many people likely to agree on the best steel even for a single application! However, if we want balanced steels, with high levels of all 3 major knife steel characteristics, the choice comes down to a few, including Magnacut and a few others among the stainless steels. Also filling the bill (good wear resistance and toughness), apart from the stainless steels are CruWear, M4, K390, 4V and Vanadis 8, among others.

  • @MrUX-cb4wn
    @MrUX-cb4wn 28 днів тому

    Where does damascus steel fit? Besides looking pretty, what is it's true strength as a blade?

    • @itsSmiv
      @itsSmiv 15 днів тому

      damascus isn't a specific steel. it's two steels mixed together, and the two steels can range from cheap horrible steels, to the best supersteels on the market. So there's no real answer to your question unfortunately. You'd have to research what the damascus the knife you're interested in is made of.
      If you want consistently good damascus, though, look for anything made of damasteel or damacore. They're damascus that has been optimized with two steels that work incredibly well together, and they have very good properties in all categories, competing with the top supersteels. Great edge retention, toughness, and very stainless. Both are incredibly gorgeous too.

  • @WyattJames10
    @WyattJames10 10 місяців тому +3

    D2 and 1095 baby

    • @asimhusain8087
      @asimhusain8087 3 місяці тому

      How much does 1095 cost per pound is it good for beginner's

  • @Cabur_Skirata
    @Cabur_Skirata 10 місяців тому +3

    80CrV2, AEB-L, and Sandvick 14c28n are some of my favorites out there depending on my purpose. The only "super steel" that I think earns that title is Magnacut, but I don't think it's worth what everyone is wanting to charge for it.

    • @DuhYaThink
      @DuhYaThink 10 місяців тому

      I picked up a Manix 2 lw in MagnaCut for $115. But did have lots of rewards points 😅

    • @ShoahBiz
      @ShoahBiz 10 місяців тому

      White river just released a new Ursus cub model and their model 1 in magnacut for a fair price imo. They take it to a great hardness and have wonderful fit and finish and grinding. Those listed steels are all favorites of mine as well

    • @EdwinDekker71
      @EdwinDekker71 10 місяців тому

      I second 14c28n

  • @Observer413
    @Observer413 10 місяців тому

    3:20 hammering a cold steel knife with a brick/lock during extreme tip test, feels like joex reference

    • @BladeHQ
      @BladeHQ  10 місяців тому

      Joe X is a LEGEND! I only wish I was that cool! -George

  • @kylecolmar964
    @kylecolmar964 8 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @OfficalTrollHunter
    @OfficalTrollHunter 10 місяців тому

    Elmax is my opinion is the goat, it's sooo good. I'll take it over anything🤤

  • @alpine1600s
    @alpine1600s 10 місяців тому +3

    The best knife steel doesn't exist. Only the correct geometry and edge on the right tool.🧐

  • @Mntnere
    @Mntnere 10 місяців тому +1

    What about elmax?

    • @BladeHQ
      @BladeHQ  10 місяців тому +1

      It's a great steel! It's often compared to M390, and I don't think any user could tell a difference between them in daily use. Elmax offers great edge retention and a very fine grain structure. If you have the sharpening skill, it will take a nice polished edge. I think it's a great choice for a premium folder! -George

  • @seanray890
    @seanray890 10 місяців тому

    M390 (and analogs), Elmax (my favorite), and of course Magnacut. NO CORROSION!

  • @papermaker85
    @papermaker85 2 місяці тому

    I have magna cut in a 63 and my s90v is coming at a 60 hrc. I'm going to test the shit out of them
    I'm collecting chef knives so far I have vg10 zdp 190 and magnacut soo s90v and next is k390

  • @random_eskimo_in_the_rockies
    @random_eskimo_in_the_rockies 24 дні тому

    Acknowledging that heat treat and blade geometry matter more than just about everything else, I'm going to state my opinion that 14C28N and aEB-L are about the best all around steels there are out t here. Some do specific things better, but as an overall jack of all trades, master of a couple, 14C28N/AEB-L will cover more bases than almost anything.

    • @itsSmiv
      @itsSmiv 15 днів тому

      better than magnacut cpm?

    • @random_eskimo_in_the_rockies
      @random_eskimo_in_the_rockies 15 днів тому

      @@itsSmiv At present, yes. MagnaCut hasn't been on the scene long enough to have established the reputation that 14C28N has. It may turn out that with several years of testing and trial that MagnaCut is all we hope it to be, but for the present I'll stick with an old reliable. Even so, AEB-L/14C28N offers something MagnaCut doesn't and can't: field utility. If my Sandvik blades get a chip in the field, I can reprofile and sharpen them with a stone. A problem with MagnaCut in the field will be there until you get to a pro.

    • @random_eskimo_in_the_rockies
      @random_eskimo_in_the_rockies 15 днів тому

      @@itsSmiv Of course, that hasn't stopped me from, buying an Esee Sencillo in MagnaCut. I like it a great deal, but I have found I'm carrying my Esee Pacaya in 3V a lot more.

  • @seanchupp7455
    @seanchupp7455 10 місяців тому +1

    I must collect them all!

    • @DuhYaThink
      @DuhYaThink 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah that’s what I was thinking about 2 years ago. Now I have over 150 Spyderco knives and need to sell a bunch 🤦‍♂️

    • @seanchupp7455
      @seanchupp7455 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DuhYaThink I try to mix it up over my year

  • @samyt681
    @samyt681 3 місяці тому

    only have used european kitchen steel which i assume is 420-440, 14110 and 14116 or the chinese X50CrMoV15

  • @Freakmaster480
    @Freakmaster480 10 місяців тому +3

    This is a solid into, but there a couple of things I want to correct.
    Firstly, s90v is generally tougher than maxamet within their respective hardness ranges. S90V is actually weirdly balanced for it's edge retention.
    Secondly, heat treat is as, if not more important, than steel choice. Ht won't make a bad steel great, but it can make a great steel terrible.

    • @stout_tossme7541
      @stout_tossme7541 10 місяців тому

      Yes, often times people forget about heat treat.