Desert Tech SRS A2 Covert - Bullpup Precision Bolt Action Rifle
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
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Let's take a look at the very unique bullpup precision bolt action rifle from @DesertTechUT , the SRS A2 Covert.
Can we see a discussion of how this manages a decent trigger whilst most bullpups are a bit mediocre? Maybe a discussion of bullpup triggers generally and why some are good and some are mushy and awful? I get that the issue is linkage between trigger and bolt/sear causing mush but it'd be amazing to see a few side by side so we can see why the good ones are good and the bad ones bad.
@@calvingreene90 yes absolutely. I understand the reason for mushy/gritty bullpup triggers but it'd be really good to see several trigger mechanisms for them dismantled side by side along with a discussion of how they feel so we can see what differences lead to what trigger feel.
@@calvingreene90 Gotta wonder why most designs don't have the sear near the trigger. Either a packaging issue (as there's now a barrel in that area) or a mechanical one. I wonder if translating the "mushiness" after the sear results in a mushy primer strike or sear engagement. I'd take reliable mushiness over unreliably crisp.
Simply avoiding plastic parts puts you far ahead of what initially gave bullpop triggers a bad name: the Steyr AUG.
Then pulling bar instead of a pushing bar also improves the trigger a lot.
@@RaphYkun I suspect there could be an issue with a system where (for example) a striker had a long extension coming forward to engage with a trigger mechanism in front of the bolt. There's the potential for more friction in that slowing down the striker and resulting in light strikes... but there are definitely ways to do a "sear near trigger" bullpup system without this sort of nonsense. That's why I'd like to see what solutions have been tried and what worked.
The RFB has existed since 2009 and has an excellent trigger. Crisp, no mush, no creep, 5lb pull (hunter version). Not all bullpups have crap triggers.
I would be really interested to see 9 Hole Reviews put this through it's paces. That was some great shooting from both Karl and the rifle.
It's also nice to be reminded that Karl isn't dogmatic in his views. This particular bullpup is fantastic, so he sings its praises. That's why I love this channel.
I badly needs both SRS and MDR to shows up in 9 Hole Reviews, especially when MDR could achieve sub MOA result from what i have seen in Snipershide forum.
Did you guys see that 9 hole reviewed it?
Bullpup triggers are such an obvious niche for the Remington electrical primer system... Got an electrical match trigger sitting on the bench, it's very nice and totally tunable. Wish someone would get the idea and try this-
Damn, that really is a pretty good idea. I mean theoretically you could have a system with a firing pin that's just electrically released somehow and then just have the trigger itself wired up to the mechanism.
That being said, from what I've heard, The SRS A2 already has pretty much the best trigger in a bullpup.
ya electronic triggers are perfect for bullpups. and honestly better then people think. because sadly the industry and community have this stupid idea of electronic in guns equals bad.
Suckboytony has done some interesting work with this on his .50cal homebuilds - check him out!
I’ve had this exact same thought as well. Bullpup with a Remington electric trigger and G11 cartridge, make it happen.
the feds wont like people running free with a trigger that can be re-programmed to do the fun switch thing or at least thats the theory on why the idea was abandoned.
Well done, excellent shooting.
Loved the buzzard catching the thermals.
I was quite surprised they stuck around.
@@j.yossarian6852 It did seem pretty unbothered by the noise. But it looks like it was quite a way behind the target, so maybe it was far enough away that the noises weren't much of an issue. And if it was hunting it would be laser focussed on the critters so wouldn't be paying attention to other things.
"Thanks to Desert Tech for being a company that puts out...
Such excellent products."
Wasn't sure where you were going there, Karl!
Excellent shooting Karl, appreciate your perspective.
I like how this is basically the modern day Thornycroft carbine.
Impressive rifle. Impressive shooting. The circling hawk adds to the drama. The compressed length of the bull pup configuration really adds to the deployability of that rifle. I’m really pleased that the few Patreon dollars I contribute per month provided exposure to this gun. I’m interested in how they accomplish such an excellent trigger, usually a weakness of the bull pup design.
I loved the soaring bird of prey (buzzard?) in the back!
Yeah, that was a Turkey buzzard.
Yep on second look it was a turkey vulture. Red tail was more atmospheric though.
Glad to see your opinion shifting on bullpups Karl. I'm of the mind that there's nothing inherently wrong with the system. The main issue was that the platforms were all unupdated since the 1980's.
The bullpup makes a lot of sense in precision rifle. Looking good.
this is a gem. excellent filmed and talked through. easy to follow and on point. im glad im a patreon and support such quality content! :)
Yes, you are sacrificing velocity with an 18" 6.5 Creedmoor barrel. Most rifles in 6.5 Creedmoor are 24".
@@randymagnum143 More load options available for Creedmoor I suspect.
ah the 338 recon from battlefield 4, lovely gun
Nope. I don't know a game that has the A2, they all at most have the A1. :D Not sure about any very new game (Tarkov for example). But BF4 certainly has the A1.
@ nah, tarkov doesnt have many bolts, but it does have the mdr
@@CssHDmonster Thanks for the info.
I have watched inrange for about as long as I can remember and I have always loved it much respect
Very cool. And fun to see how Desert Tech has changed you re: bullpups.
Very good shooting! The rifle seems very cool and well designed too
How many people went "oOoOOooo" when he showed how light and crisp the match grade trigger (match grade in a bull-pup!) was in this rifle. Makes me really want one!
Have a Left Handed Covert in 6.5, 308, 300WM and 338 Lapua....all super accurate! Run a 3-18 Kahlas
Bullpup sniper rifle? Bad ass
Impressive.
Thanks for the clarification for lefties.
Excellent informative video Karl nice shooting keep the informative content up bestest from Scotland
What draws me to a bullpup configuration for a bolt action is even with 24"-26" optimal barrel length its overall length is still reasonably handy.
The fact that you could have a 28" barrel .338LM be half an inch shorter than a standard M16A1 is pretty impressive.
Your content is some of my favorite, this channel rocks
That was really impressive.
Despite the A2's claims for increased accuracy, my A1 shoots tacks through bugholes. It's one of my favorites.
The editing on the shooting sequences was great.
I'm right handed, but I appreciate that Karl usually has a left handed co-host. Really adds a lot of insight to the channel.
Great video. Thanks for what you do.
Thanks
Cheers from Alaska!
Soaring bird made this video slightly better. 🙂
Thanks!
Karl, I'm hugely grateful for your stance against the corporate censorship (I'm a socialist BTW) and objectivity. Keep on keeping on and strength to your arm and to your principles
I love this gun in games just because it is nice and compact while being able delivering a good amount of damage. But I have never anticipated that it is good in real life.
Despite being that good.
It is a rare but very welcome surprise.
Thanks for this video, keep up the good work.
Well done young man
That's a great looking rifle. I can't wait for a WWSD Bullpup.
Given that there's no bullpup with the modularity of the AR I don't think that's a viable project.
Thanks for the quality content as always, Karl!
Karl: "I don't usually care for bullpups."
Ian: "Bolt actions are obsolescent."
Karl: "Check this out."
I was wondering if anyone was going to try this idea again. Nice😊
Dirty little secret on (standard) bolt actions. If you shoot exclusively off bipods bags or support. Especially prone F class stuff single loading:
Lefties are better off with RH actions. You can operate bolt, load and check chamber without breaking your cheek weld or firing grip (usually these have actual pistol grips or deep grips which mean you won’t hit your thumb with the bolt.
To the point where a RH shooter might consider a LH action.
I've noticed that with Ian when he shoots old bolt actions in FW videos, not taking your hand of the grip (and finger off the trigger) seems to allow one to fire faster, even when not supported.
i can confirm as a wrong-handed shooter. i borrowed my friend's kar98k for a few shots at a 100m range. i'm a speed shooter, he's a precision shooter. 10 rounds on target, 4moa dispersion in less than 30 seconds was my personal best once i got used to the unfamiliar ergonomics. him being right handed, he routinely gets 2moa groups at 100m in about 4x the time, but as usual i'm going for speed not accuracy. the fact that this gun was made in 1942 and is still a laser pointer 80 years later is just a testament to the speed advantage of shooting a bolt-gun wrong-handed.
this was done with only iron-sights adjusted to the minimum possible range (150m iirc, i don't recall german war-sights off the top of my head), and confirmed multiple times by testing on the clock and with discussions with range officers. once you shoot off the shoulder, the advantage becomes a boat anchor of a handicap however.
I could see the cartridge conversion being helpful for countries where there are limits to how many guns you can own.
It can be pretty helpful if you plan on using (hunting/other) in .300 WM or .338 LM but ranges near you won't let you use anything that large. In my case I can get 5.56 for $.25/rd and get a LOT of trigger time in-between using the bigger stuff. Now I just need to get the rifle... But I can attest to the MDRX being pretty awesome (although a bit heavy).
Great shooting 🏆🥇
Desert Tech is honestly the manufacturer that you wish other manufacturers could be more like. Their products are high quality, they work well, they offer a lot of flexibility for everyone, and they listen to customer feedback (the .308 MDR as tested by InRange is an excellent example of this). Personally, I like that they sell platforms as much as firearms, allowing you to quickly and easily adapt your rifle to your circumstances; like Karl said, this is generally of dubious utility, but different cartridges do perform better in different circumstances, so that flexibility is nice to have (I also especially like how, for example, their different conversion kits are specifically marked "For all MDR and MDRX rifles", meaning that if you want to convert your 5.56 MDR with an 11.5" barrel into a 6.5 MDR with a 20" barrel, you can do it with only a few minutes of work; something even the ultra-modular Armalite pattern cannot claim).
The only downside is how expensive the rifles are, but quality doesn't come cheap.
@@emilynelson5985 ... exactly that.
I have no idea what you're talking about, but exactly that.
@@emilynelson5985 that's quite a claim. I presume you have sources to support it
@@emilynelson5985 What about a string I could plug into a search engine? I know UA-cam is sometimes touchy about that too, but it should be more reliable than a weblink
Dude, you are a fantastic shot.
In-Range good. Chris like In-Range. SRS-A2 Covert interesting. Enjoy video.
I only want this gun because of the Division. Also I know a previous Desert Tech worker who worked on all of their guns. He said this gun was the only gun he would buy from them.
Karl, they're even more versatile than 6.5C to 300W. Aftermarket companies make 223 sized bolts/mags and also it can handle the 338L. For my A1 Covert I have a 16" 308 barrel for practicality, a longer 338L barrel and bolt for reaching way out, and a 510 Whisper barrel for silliness (lobbing 750 grain Amaxes out to 500yds suppressed). It also takes some of the still out of buying a top shelf scope when you can use it in so many ways.
You should throw up a video of the .510
On those first shots on the steel target, I thought that shot three was you going for a smiley face.
I'm an old Jarhead...I'd avoid head shots...simply because its a small target...I'd always fire centermast...and with a rifle as accurate as that one looks to be, you'd be guaranteed a kill shot almost every time. That makes it a winner!
new day everyone has body armor now. Was melons and balls...now even the little berries have body armor!
Thanks for review. I have a HTI and it is a great rifle.
Really slick kit, as you said just gotta upgrade that scope now.
I was debating over this vs an AI AT. It was hard because there's a lot of benefits to the DT (caliber conversions from .223 to .338), but ended up going with the AI AT for nostalgia reasons.
Looking forward to seeing more content!
Love this stuff
Excepting the marvelous Old West Vignettes, this video more than any other of the shooting videos, demonstrates the Zen-like peace that can be found in both 1) Shooting for precision at range, and 2) Basking in the American Southwest.
Excellent job
I like his reviews, he’s very knowledgeable. Good stuff.
Nice demonstration of marksmanship.
I have nothing to comment but am making one to help with engagement. Im Doin My Part!
Karl got a Bullpup and liked it quite a lot. We are living in strange times.... Just kiding.
Excellent review, changed my mind on Desert Tech.
Nice shooting.
The bird is circling that target, waiting for it to kick the bucket.
Snappy sounding round even with the can.
Fantastic, this is now on my wishlist.
Thanks for the video.
I’d love a video on that scope.
He said it’s coming, but separately
Karl youre still probably the best shot on the guntube, thats some fancy shooting
man, I want one of those pretty bad
they are so nice
I love mine, have it in 308. Perfect hunting rifle in PA where we can’t have semi autos.
At 10:05 it sounds like even closing the bolt has a little bit of reverb from the hills. It's an interesting landscape for sure.
Excellent shooting, and an interesting rifle.
Super cool.
Well. I wasn't looking for a new precision rifle before watching this.
Looks like that rifle can shoot about 1 MOA with just fmj ball ammo, impressive.
I didn't realize it was a bolt action until Karl mention it
And moments after I suggest Desert Tech should look into making a 20-30ish round count quattro magazine even in a bullpup InRangeTV showcases a perfect platform for it! This Bolt Action with 15-22ish quattro would be very very interesting.
Thank you.
Wow nice grouping!
If that's what you call crap blasting ammo then WOW that's one hell of a rifle...
Man good thing your a good shot said the eagle
Awesome video. Makes me want to get one of those.
Looks like a wonderful gun
Nice gun nice shooting. I love my interchangeable guns.
Don't mind me, just feeding the algorithm.
The more I hear about MDR, the better they look. Solid products. I like to collect firearms that are different from each other, so their bull pup semi auto is a want.
Desert Tech? I believe the MDR is just a single platform.
@@RaphYkun You are right. Desert Tech is the company, MDR is the product.
My MDR in .223 is my favorite gun I own.
Easiest rifle to larp in my basement while waiting for dinner
You guys do a great job.
Very nice 👍🏽
Very nice aesthetics
The Wolverine makes it look funky
Amazing! If you name your guns, I think this one should be "Beer Goggles"...because when it comes to ammo, it turns Bow into WOW!
I haven't got inrange notifications in weeks
If you are able to get one in the states I could suggest to try out the Neopod Bipod from Steinert Sensing system. Use it with an Picatinny adapter. You wont belive how light it is and actually capable of sturdy use.
This would be great for 6.8 western still might want the full length barrel though
Love your videos, thank you.
I love that it just looks like a Call of Duty customized pistol
A lot of firearms usage here in Oz is at night from vehicles doing pest control in paddocks. If they were legal and in 223, a bullpup bolt action with a good trigger would be a fantastic rifle for that. Using long bolt actions in cars is a pain especially when hunting in a group. Something like this would be damn near revolutionary, and I wouldn't be surprised if many Aussie shooters would want one just as much as they'd want a semi auto.
Are you in NSW where these things are considered scary? I own this exact model, in 308, in QLD
@@thomasa5619 WA hence Perth in the name. Our system over here is about as bad as NSW. But good on you Queenslanders. I wouldn't have thought they were legal over there or else I would have thought there'd be plenty of UA-cam videos from qld shooters I follow. (Maybe I just missed them). Give me this rifle in a 223 for the wheatbelt and a 22mag for Perth outskirts and Id be a very happy boy. Almost as happy as if I could have an ar15
@@bushcraftingmuslim You can have them in WA. WAPOL tried to reclassify them, but an owner took them to court and won last year.
@@Joric78 I stand corrected! That's awesome. If they could come in 223 that's be awesome but I doubt the US market would be viable for that. Maybe one day I'll upgrade my Howa funds permitting. (223 would just be the ducks nuts for myself though)
@@bushcraftingmuslim That was for a rifle he already owned mind you. From my understanding of the way things work in WA, if you want one you'd better check they'll actually provide the permit to acquire. They play a similar game with anything in "scary sniper calibres" here in SA ("it's not legally restricted, we just won't let you get one").
Love your work!
Keep it up
Karl when you are done with that rifle, you can just send it to me...I will even pay for shipping ;) I to would like to know more about how Desert Tech managed a nice short crisp trigger on a bullpup.
Visually this reminds me a lot of the DSR-1 rifle. That's practically unobtanium though, one sold at RIA for over 15k.
Just feeding the algorithm, don't mind me.
I see a bullpup video, i clicky!!