Two methods to develop a hexagram. Please also visit the 10 part video series "My Key Learning Experiences" by my co-author Carol Anthony: • I Ching, Key Learning ...
The I Ching can best be understood when we consult it because we have a deep need. It replies on the level of our deepest feelings. By contrast, when we only approach it with our intellect, we are on a different wave length, and that is when we find it hard to understand. I hope you find this helpful. - Hanna
Fully agree. In fact, you could open the I Ching book randomly, and when in deep need, still find wise guidance in a random hexagram. That is why having the I Ching in your smartphone as an ebook or an app makes it so handy to receive the guidance from the I Ching in the moment when you are in need
By all means, the ebook or app does not replace the traditional method and ritual, but it is a useful add-on to help face our challenges in the modern world. Thanks Hanna for the clarity in your video!
Finally - I rediscover what I knew 50 years ago and forgot when someone borrowed my I Ching and never returned it. This is the best explanation I have seen so far.
Interestingly enough...I got the same hexagram (32). I used this video to learn how to do a proper reading and for my very first I Ching message- I recieved 32 (Duration). It is of course a very relevant message for me to have received at this time. So serendipitous. I'm really thankful and in awe of the universe and all it's little magical synchronicities.
thank you! I consulted this video when i first bought the book, and revisited it just now to refresh my memory! The book has helped reassure and clarify so many things for me as well as others
I found your I Ching books as some of the most clearest explanations in English that I have ever seen. Someone who can really unlock the inner meaning of the 'I'. How can I repay you ever for doing this? Thanks, your books are so clearly explained like muddy water that has been given time to settle, now I can see my face through its side again. Very good work and service.
A simpler way to calculate is this without numbers. MINORITY RULES METHOD-> 2 heads 1 tail = Yin -> 2 tails 1 head = Yang -> all 3 same face = moving line or Old Yin and Old Yang.
I am very grateful for the i Ching. To consult it I don't use coins, I just open to book to a random page and take the diagram there. Simple but intuitive for me.
I quite agree about exploring the relevant meaning. Our book "I Ching, The Oracle of the Cosmic Way" contains a unique method of communicating with the Sage, the voice that speaks through the I Ching. With the help of this method the user can put forth hypotheses re the intended message and receive Yes/No answers in the manner of 'warm,' 'hot,' or 'cold,' 'very cold.' Have you tried it out? - Hanna
You can get to the hexagram that way, but you still need to determine, whether any of the six lines is a "changing line" that contains a more specific answer to your question or issue of concern. Every I Ching book contains additional texts pertaining to the changing lines. You can experiment with your one-coin method: to find out whether you are meant to read any of the changing lines, define one side of your coin as yes, the other as No. Then throw the coin again checking each line. Hanna
You are very correct about the I Ching presentation, I started learning I Ching when I was in high school. Without the guidance of a teacher, it is difficult to understand the mysteries of the Book of Changes. It can be said that: The Book of Changes is a summary of the laws of the universe, and you can ask any questions on it. Fortune-telling is very simple, but how to solve the hexagram image is very difficult.
I am probably missing many things including a few marbles... but yes I am missing all the items in your list. At present I am waiting for my library of books to be shipped to me, which includes a copy of the I Ching translated by Thomas Cleary. However that version is quite bare-bones. I also have a copy translated by James Legge in 1882, which is quite good. That has helped clear up some things, but I will also be getting Hanna or Richard's books as well. Thanks to you & everyone for the help!
Funny, was my first time doing it, asked a question and draw and hexagram...got a number with a change in 5th line. Just for fun thought of doing same question twice..Got the same number AGAIN! With no changes, wow.
@hannamoog Thank You for your explanation Hanna. I will have to carry on with an open mind, and not seek to point blame at any one thing. To learn what can be learned from personal involvement with the I Ching is something that should be considered by everyone. The wisdom contained in this book is very real, I have no doubt about that. Thank you for creating it.
Unfortunately, the sticks are no longer being produced. However, you can use a die instead. It is called a "hexagram die" and can be obtained through our website. Look for: ichingoracle. Hanna
I have bought the iching book in the video, and the guide to the iching that accompanies it. And I am finding it to be very insightful, and it seems to be pointing out things that would have otherwise taken me a long time, if ever, to figure out and understand. But the reason I write here now is that I have one hold up with it thus far, and that is the concept of cosmic help. To me it coincides with the difficulty I have with believing in God's help, or any other form of supernatural help..
Basically, yes. One die correctly prepared is all you need. Your die needs to allow for four different possibilities: a straight line, a broken line, a straight line that is marked as a changing line, and a broken line that is marked as a changing line. Since a die has six sides, double the possibilities for receiving a single straight or broken line. Construct the six-lined hexagram by tossing your die once for each line. Hanna
@ LordShivasServant I know exactly what I Ching calculator you are talking about. I was introduced to the I Ching 2 years ago the coming December. Being introduced to the I Ching for the first time, many people find stuff like this on the web and think this is the way the I Ching works. I have come to learn that this is not the case. The I Ching is very personally and only for you. Buy the book and let the Sage talk to you. You really will find the the nourishment, caring and love you seek!
@clickswitchh My advice is to not try to understand it with your mind, but rather see what in the hexagram (or paragraph from a hexagram) that seems particularly relevant (maybe it is only one sentence in a paragraph) and that resonates with you. If you have our book, it describes how you can then investigate further whether you are on the right track in understanding it. Our method allows you to develop a greater understanding.
@Prodigiousguy8 That's how I ended up at this video too! I read that you will get different results with coins and those Swiss-developed bars than with the original yarrow sticks, due to the decreased odds (1 in 4) of getting a broken(?) line at 1, so the yarrow sticks should be considered the preferred method. Not only because you would get a different hexagram, but also because the time it takes to use the yarrow sticks allows you to meditate on your question.
I couldn't see myself operating the yarrow sticks. It's very playful though, I'm sure they bring a lot of magic to it. Thanks for this, I've been wanting to learn for months, only ever used the computer I Ching calculator on Eclectic Energies - it's amazing stuff.
Thank you for this video! Can you give some details on those sticks? Where to get a set? Or, if they're custom, can you provide the dimensions of them? Length, width, etc? Thank you!
Thanks for your comment! The sticks are 7" long and 1/4" thick. They are no longer offered on the market. I can give you more details re the distribution of the markings, if you contact me through our website at ichingoracle (dot)com.
Thank you very much. It is almost 10 years to the day since this video was posted. It took me a while before I heard the call to re-introduce myself to the practice of the I Ching. I heard about it from reading the lovely book, 'Love, An Inner Connection' years ago. Your video is extremely well done. Thank you, Hanna, for your efforts. Which, btw, how are you doing these days?
It makes me very happy to know that you have found your way back to the I Ching, and felt that my video was helpful. And thank you for asking about me. I am doing fine and am very much enjoying my daily lessons from the Sage! Hanna
I just wanted to inform you that if you go to amazon.com it will be an American site and some may not ship internationally. I do not know what the abbreviation is for Sweden. For example, if you live in German you have to go to Amazon.de . So, go to the site closest to you.
I was never a spiritual person, but I read Philip Dick's The Man in The High Castle, which frequently mentioned the I Ching. I find it very intriguing, and I wish to see if this really works.
Hi, that has been a tradition, until Carol and I learned about a method to clarify the message(s) given by the first hexagram. That method (we call it the Retrospective-Three-Coin Method, or RTCM) is explained in all three books we co-authored. When we have understood those messages well enough, there is no more reason to read the second hexagram. Hanna
Also Mike you use three coins to ask "yes or no questions". FOR ME, a light line or _____ = no / yang and a dark / yin line or ___ ___ = yes for yes or no answers. If one is doing this with money coins then a tails is "no" and a heads is "yes". If two of the coins is a "no" and one is a "yes" then the answer is "no" but not a DEFINITE "no" Hence, I ask another question and throw the coins again. If all THREE coins are light/no or dark/yes then this is a definite "yes" or "no".
Do all the sticks have dots on them or just a few? I am trying to figure out how the sticks work. It seems there is an equal amount of solid and broken lines on each stick but I was not sure if only two sticks had moving lines sides or all of them did. Thank you.
The set of six sticks needs to be divided into two sets of three sticks, and marked as follows: Both sets have three sides the same as follows: side 1: two straight lines; side 2: two broken lines; side 3: one broken line with a dot changing into a straight line. The fourth side on set 1: two broken lines The fourth side on set 2: two straight lines
Thank you so much for this. Every one else seems to have forgotton the fundamental method of teaching from the beginning. I just wanted to know how you got to decide about the trigram - was it a painting, a 64 sided dice, a pack of cards? I got my answer here - at last!
Hi there, there is no pre-determined value attributed to either side of the coin. You can define that for yourself. The main thing is that you then stick with your definition. Hanna
It's nothing but probability that determines what message you get. People then interpret what it says in a way that makes it feel personal, but of course, it's not. I guess it could be entertaining though.
Would it be acceptable to build a hexagram in the following way? Flip 6 coins in a row and assign a light line to heads and a dark line to tails. Or is there something indispensable about using the mathematical formulae you described at first? I don't understand how the lines indicating transformation apply to the reading, so perhaps I'm missing something. I am new to the I Ching so I'm sorry if these are basic questions.
Hanna, I am watching your video again and I notice I have the same question as I did a year ago, which is funny! But how do you know light from dark lines? Is it based on odd and even numbers? I remember you responding but have cleared my old emails. Be great to hear back. Thank you.
A light line is an unbroken line. If you use three coins to toss a line, and you attribute the value 3 to the "head" side, you have received a light line when your total count is either 7 or 9. If it is 7, you have received a light line that is not changing. If you have received a 9, it's a light line that is changing. Best, Hanna
Hi Hanna, it seems the book I have by R. L. Wing teaches the opposite sums as you. For example 2 heads and a tails equaling a straight line and two tails and a heads equaling a broken(dark) line. Do you know which is the original method or teaching on this? Thank you
It does not matter. The only thing that matters is that you decide which side you want to define as value 2 and which as value 3. And then stick with it.
Hello, LordShivasServant, I appreciate your comment. The Cosmic Way has nothing to do with magic, rather it is the normal way by which the Cosmic Consciousness does things. You'll understand this better when you use our book "I Ching, The Oracle of the Cosmic Way," in which the Cosmic Principles of Harmony are described in each hexagram. Greetings, Hanna
I know this might be hard to know or remember, but where can you buy those sticks? I really like the size and look of the ones in the video. Thank you!
We no longer offer these sticks. But you can get something similar as part of a set with a book, if you go to amazon and search for I-ching-frits-blok. I have not seen the book or the sticks. Someone else sent me this hint.
Hello, every time I land on a 9 ( three heads ) I make a -- -- from -----* but when I read in my I-ching book by wilhelm/baynes it reads as a Six for the changing line... For example, the bottom trigram is K'an and the top Chen. The only changing line is the last line, which when I toss my coins comes out to a 9 or -----*. The hexagram is Hsieh/ Deliverance, and the last line reads as: Six at top means: The prince shoots at a hawk on a high wall. He kills it. Everything serves to further. I have been having this issue with the line reading... It seems to be vice verse for every line. As if I am not writing down the right lines... Ive looked else where to see if the changing lines differ but everyone says that all tails or all 2 is -- --* changing into ------ and all heads or all 3 is -----* changing into -- --... This is only the confusing thing since in the book the changing lines dont seem to be corresponding with the line readings.. Please help if possible, Thank you.
@Duccio Campriani so this is 5 years later, but i guess ill post anyway. the I Ching was originally done with sticks of Yarrow. you can probably buy those on amazon.
In you book, I Ching, The Oracle of the Cosmic Way, in the glossary (under Helpers) on page 567, there is a reference to page 682 which does not exist. The reference should be to page 535.
Thank you... 🌻how fascinating did my first reading im moving and getting rid of things i love and it said no disgrace in getting rid of your assets. It will help set me free! 41
Sorry, Sean Andre, the sticks are no longer available. We have replaced them with a special dice. You can purchase it through our website ichingoracle.com. Hanna
Thank you for this video; I bought an I Ching book but I found some aspects of the instructions to be a bit unclear, so it was useful to see a demonstration here. Just one question: if you use the sticks, aren't the probabilities of drawing the equivalent of a 7 or a 9 via the coin throwing method different? As they had four sides you'd have a one in four chance of getting a moving dark line, for example, but with the coins there would only be a one in eight chance of this happening, meaning that the chances of you getting a moving line would be significantly increased.
Thank you for your question. All considerations about probability are of a purely mental nature and do not really come from a true understanding of the nature of the oracle. The Cosmic Chance Manager can give us the hexagram and changing lines that contain the message(s) intended for us at that moment, no matter which of the means you mentioned we use. Hanna
I would recommend the version you see in the video. You can look at a "sample reading" by going to our website: ichingoracledotcom. Find this book under "books and more." Then click on "sample reading."
I am not familiar with that book, but I do know that the I Ching works when you consult it from a real need. Why don't you try it out and see how it relates to your personal need? - Hanna
It is up to you to define, to which side of the coins you assign the value 2 (dark), and which side is to represent the value 3 (light). What counts is that you stick with your definition, so that the Sage can use it.
GREAT tutorial! I do have a question about what to do after a hexagram is drawn, are you supposed to keep flipping the coins and asking yes or no questions based on the result of the flip? Or in other words, is there any specified way you're supposed to converse with the I ching post Hexagram. At times i feel i am being told a message through the responses, but sometimes my brain says its luck. Or that my questions are not being understood. I have received lines that tell me i come asking the wrong initial questions and that i fuel my ego, but does this also reflect on the post hexagram dialogue? All the best
Thanks for your comment. The Yes/No method, or RTCM is meant to help you communicate with the Sage in order to clarify its message to you. When your brain says it's luck, it means you are systematically doubting the answers. The presence of such doubts makes it impossible for the Sage to converse with you, which then gives rise to more doubts. To break that negative dynamic, picture your doubts as an axe (doubts split the wholeness of our true feelings). Then picture tying that axe to the strong fresh sprouts of a tree that has been cut down (=split). Doing so is the equivalent of turning your doubts over to the Helper of Nature that keeps them under control until the sprouts have grown into strong trees. (Also see Line 6 of Hexagram 12.)
Hanna Moog hey Hanna, quick question. Is it bad practice to consult the oracle multiple times in one day? And if no, do I need to draw another hexagram or is it a continuation of the yes/no method from the first session. Thank u again
@@Cardninja52 Yes, you can overuse it, which usually happens when you don't understand the message received in the first hexagram you drew that day. If you don't know what questions to ask to clarify the text received, you can ask the Sage to bring to mind the next question. In this way, you avoid asking questions coming from the ego.
Hanna Moog i decided not to do a second reading last night and waited until the morning. When I presented the question to the oracle I received hexagram 55 which talks about abundance. This mentions what You are suggesting about avoiding questions from the ego. And i concluded I need to separate those questions in order to properly understand the lesson
We call them dark and light lines because they represent the two Cosmic forces, which through their interplay create transformations. They are also known as YIN/YANG. The words "broken" and "unbroken" don't tell us about their nature; they belong in a mechanical language. Hanna
The problem with the three-coin method is that it does approximate the same odds as the original yarrow stalk method. For example, getting a old yin does not have the same probablity as, say, young yin. Someone clever devised a two-coin method that comes much closer, and is described here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching_divination#Two-coin_method
I am sorry you are having such difficulties. You can also order the book directly from the publisher and have it sent to Sweden. Go to the publisher's website by googling Anthony Publishing Company
@Prodigiousguy8 That's a great book, as I was mid way in it Bush gave his speech about going to Mars. Everything of PDK's that I've read had a way of bending consciousness so you wernt really sure which reality was true.
Hallo!What happens when one gets 2 or 3 moving lines?Is that something that will escalate or a time sequence?Puzzled.Would appreciate an answer to this,as at times it's the moving lines are quite different!positive and negative and viceversa....Thank you..
You need to use our book "I Ching, the Oracle of the Cosmic Way," because it contains a method to communicate with the Sage that speaks through the I Ching. It is called the "Retrospective-Three-Coin-Method" or RTCM. This method allows you to develop the art of communicating with the Sage and clarify the Sage's message to you at that time.
@ALEKHINE1927 It cannot be the subject of a ten minute video to explain in detail what is involved when we consult the I Ching. What I demonstrated was the technical aspect of how to obtain an answer. As to the various relationships between hexagrams and trigrams I, personally, would not put the emphasis on that aspect. What counts for me is a sincere desire to understand the I Ching's message. No moving lines? If you post this question again, I will have more space to reply. - Hanna
I don't think I Ching is to grant you wishes to come true. So you don't have to think about your subject when tossing the coins. I Ching is to conduct change when life choices seem to get to a standstill or at a moment of choice which you don't seem to know what to choose. At those times it is good to consult the I Ching to stir up change and a new direction. Now that direction may or may not be good, but at least if it's a bad change you know after that what change to take instead, so it would be a butterfly effect of changes. I don't think the sticks is random enough to have a thorough change, they used coins or even 50 yarrow sticks in ancient china for a reason, even if it was to let you take the time to form the hexagram and that in itself might have a meditative and therapeutic effect, so when you do read your consult, you will be in an ease state of mind. There are no shortcuts to life choices, the journey matters more than the destination.
I'm interested in making my own sticks. Do you know where i can find a pattern so i can mark the 6 sticks correctly on all 4 sides? I like the idea of creating my own divination tools rather than buying a set that wasn't crafted with my own intentions and hands. Lol,i hope that doesn't sound too woo woo.
I don't think the sticks is random enough to have a thorough change, they used coins in ancient china for a reason, even if it was to let you take the time to form the hexagram and that in itself might have a meditative and therapeutic effect, so when you do read your consult, you will be in an ease state of mind. There are no shortcuts to life choices, the journey matters more than the destination.
Mike as somebody new to the I-Ching, let ME try to help guide you. You are missing ONE of 5 things. Pick the best answer. 1/ the definitive book on the I-Ching by Richard Wihelm 2/ Hanna Moog's book 3/ a library card 4/ time to learn and digest all of the above 5/ all of the above namaste
The I Ching, as we, C.Anthony and I, understand it, shows us the Cosmos as a self-correcting system of harmonious principles. When we violate them by creating ideas that are not in harmony, we create a fate, either individually or collectively. The fate has multiple purposes: to bring us back to our senses, and back to earth and give us the opportunity to reflect on our mistaken thinking. (See Hexagram 51, Shock.) Fate protects the harmonious Cosmic order like an invisible brick wall.
To Justin Moore. In my experience, it does not matter how the trigrams are arranged in a circular order. What is known as the pre-heaven order of Fu Hsi emphasizes their complementarity. It is important not to call them "opposites" - something invented by humans. Opposition does not exist in the harmonious Cosmic order. Hanna
Hi Jason, if you go to our website "ichingoracledotcom" and click on "books and more," you will see that we now offer dice to consult the I Ching. Greetings, Hanna Moog
I have 10 6 sided dice with the first 6 Trigrams 1: ☰ Heaven (Qian) 2: ☷ Earth (Kun) 3: ☵ Water (Kan) 4: ☲ Fire (Li) 5: ☳ Thunder (Zhen) 6: ☴ Wind/Wood (Xun) on it, since its not 8 sided im missing ☶ Mountain (Gen) ☱ Lake (Dui) are these dice worthless or is there something i can do with them?
The I Ching can best be understood when we consult it because we have a deep need. It replies on the level of our deepest feelings. By contrast, when we only approach it with our intellect, we are on a different wave length, and that is when we find it hard to understand.
I hope you find this helpful. - Hanna
Fully agree. In fact, you could open the I Ching book randomly, and when in deep need, still find wise guidance in a random hexagram. That is why having the I Ching in your smartphone as an ebook or an app makes it so handy to receive the guidance from the I Ching in the moment when you are in need
By all means, the ebook or app does not replace the traditional method and ritual, but it is a useful add-on to help face our challenges in the modern world. Thanks Hanna for the clarity in your video!
Finally - I rediscover what I knew 50 years ago and forgot when someone borrowed my I Ching and never returned it. This is the best explanation I have seen so far.
Interestingly enough...I got the same hexagram (32). I used this video to learn how to do a proper reading and for my very first I Ching message- I recieved 32 (Duration). It is of course a very relevant message for me to have received at this time. So serendipitous. I'm really thankful and in awe of the universe and all it's little magical synchronicities.
thank you! I consulted this video when i first bought the book, and revisited it just now to refresh my memory! The book has helped reassure and clarify so many things for me as well as others
I found your I Ching books as some of the most clearest explanations in English that I have ever seen. Someone who can really unlock the inner meaning of the 'I'. How can I repay you ever for doing this? Thanks, your books are so clearly explained like muddy water that has been given time to settle, now I can see my face through its side again. Very good work and service.
A simpler way to calculate is this without numbers. MINORITY RULES METHOD-> 2 heads 1 tail = Yin -> 2 tails 1 head = Yang -> all 3 same face = moving line or Old Yin and Old Yang.
I am very grateful for the i Ching. To consult it I don't use coins, I just open to book to a random page and take the diagram there. Simple but intuitive for me.
Bibliomancy :)
@@nataliaturner4845 Hopefully not bibliolatry. 😉
Is it truly random, though? I would think you'll be heavily biased to the middle range, never getting a 1 nor a 64.
Yes. Albeit, bibliomancy with the I Ching produces diminishing returns.
Thank you for your exuberant feedback, Georgina. I feel very humbled by it. Hanna
This is a great video! I started reading "Man in the High Castle" and Frank Frink uses this method in chapter one. Now I understand!
Hey, I found out about this book from Philip K Dick too, I use it almost every day now :)
I quite agree about exploring the relevant meaning. Our book "I Ching, The Oracle of the Cosmic Way" contains a unique method of communicating with the Sage, the voice that speaks through the I Ching. With the help of this method the user can put forth hypotheses re the intended message and receive Yes/No answers in the manner of 'warm,' 'hot,' or 'cold,' 'very cold.' Have you tried it out? - Hanna
You can get to the hexagram that way, but you still need to determine, whether any of the six lines is a "changing line" that contains a more specific answer to your question or issue of concern. Every I Ching book contains additional texts pertaining to the changing lines. You can experiment with your one-coin method: to find out whether you are meant to read any of the changing lines, define one side of your coin as yes, the other as No. Then throw the coin again checking each line. Hanna
Excellent! Thank you, you are very inspiring to listen to.
You are very correct about the I Ching presentation, I started learning I Ching when I was in high school. Without the guidance of a teacher, it is difficult to understand the mysteries of the Book of Changes. It can be said that: The Book of Changes is a summary of the laws of the universe, and you can ask any questions on it. Fortune-telling is very simple, but how to solve the hexagram image is very difficult.
Great explanation. Very easy to understand. 🙏❤️
Thank you, too, Lai185. Now it's all about applying the I Ching to your life! Hanna
The correct way is to start at the bottom. Think of building a house - you start with building the foundation. Hanna
I am probably missing many things including a few marbles... but yes I am missing all the items in your list. At present I am waiting for my library of books to be shipped to me, which includes a copy of the I Ching translated by Thomas Cleary. However that version is quite bare-bones.
I also have a copy translated by James Legge in 1882, which is quite good. That has helped clear up some things, but I will also be getting Hanna or Richard's books as well. Thanks to you & everyone for the help!
Best explination i have got on youtube, thank you
Thank you Hanna. Now I know what "A Nine in the fourth place" means.
Funny, was my first time doing it, asked a question and draw and hexagram...got a number with a change in 5th line. Just for fun thought of doing same question twice..Got the same number AGAIN! With no changes, wow.
Hi Diana, it looks like you were given the message to REALLY PAY ATTENTION to what that hexagram wants you to understand! Hanna
Thank you, Jorge. Hanna
Thank you I really appreciate that
@hannamoog Thank You for your explanation Hanna. I will have to carry on with an open mind, and not seek to point blame at any one thing. To learn what can be learned from personal involvement with the I Ching is something that should be considered by everyone. The wisdom contained in this book is very real, I have no doubt about that. Thank you for creating it.
Thank you! I love those sticks!!
Unfortunately, the sticks are no longer being produced. However, you can use a die instead. It is called a "hexagram die" and can be obtained through our website. Look for: ichingoracle. Hanna
I have bought the iching book in the video, and the guide to the iching that accompanies it. And I am finding it to be very insightful, and it seems to be pointing out things that would have otherwise taken me a long time, if ever, to figure out and understand. But the reason I write here now is that I have one hold up with it thus far, and that is the concept of cosmic help. To me it coincides with the difficulty I have with believing in God's help, or any other form of supernatural help..
Basically, yes. One die correctly prepared is all you need. Your die needs to allow for four different possibilities: a straight line, a broken line, a straight line that is marked as a changing line, and a broken line that is marked as a changing line. Since a die has six sides, double the possibilities for receiving a single straight or broken line. Construct the six-lined hexagram by tossing your die once for each line. Hanna
@ LordShivasServant I know exactly what I Ching calculator you are talking about. I was introduced to the I Ching 2 years ago the coming December. Being introduced to the I Ching for the first time, many people find stuff like this on the web and think this is the way the I Ching works. I have come to learn that this is not the case. The I Ching is very personally and only for you. Buy the book and let the Sage talk to you. You really will find the the nourishment, caring and love you seek!
Great!!!!!!I LOVE IT!!THANKS FOR SHARING
@clickswitchh
My advice is to not try to understand it with your mind, but rather see what in the hexagram (or paragraph from a hexagram) that seems particularly relevant (maybe it is only one sentence in a paragraph) and that resonates with you. If you have our book, it describes how you can then investigate further whether you are on the right track in understanding it. Our method allows you to develop a greater understanding.
@Prodigiousguy8 That's how I ended up at this video too! I read that you will get different results with coins and those Swiss-developed bars than with the original yarrow sticks, due to the decreased odds (1 in 4) of getting a broken(?) line at 1, so the yarrow sticks should be considered the preferred method. Not only because you would get a different hexagram, but also because the time it takes to use the yarrow sticks allows you to meditate on your question.
Kudos to the Swiss gentleman who invented those sticks! Brilliant!
The sticks are statistically more likely than the coins to give “transformation” signals…
I couldn't see myself operating the yarrow sticks. It's very playful though, I'm sure they bring a lot of magic to it.
Thanks for this, I've been wanting to learn for months, only ever used the computer I Ching calculator on Eclectic Energies - it's amazing stuff.
Very well explained
Very helpful. Thank you
Thank you for this video! Can you give some details on those sticks? Where to get a set? Or, if they're custom, can you provide the dimensions of them? Length, width, etc?
Thank you!
Thanks for your comment! The sticks are 7" long and 1/4" thick. They are no longer offered on the market. I can give you more details re the distribution of the markings, if you contact me through our website at ichingoracle (dot)com.
Thank you Hanna for posting this, it is so helpful. Where would one obtain these sticks by chance?
We also no longer offer these sticks. We only know that you can find something similar on Amazon. Search for: I-Ching-Frits-blok. Best regards, Hanna.
Thank you very much. It is almost 10 years to the day since this video was posted. It took me a while before I heard the call to re-introduce myself to the practice of the I Ching. I heard about it from reading the lovely book, 'Love, An Inner Connection' years ago. Your video is extremely well done. Thank you, Hanna, for your efforts. Which, btw, how are you doing these days?
It makes me very happy to know that you have found your way back to the I Ching, and felt that my video was helpful. And thank you for asking about me. I am doing fine and am very much enjoying my daily lessons from the Sage! Hanna
hi Hanna, thanks for the vid'. should i consider the new hexagram denoted by the transforming lines?
hmm, it's almost identical to Ifa in principal, annotation and execution... Very interesting!
Thank you so much !
I just wanted to inform you that if you go to amazon.com it will be an American site and some may not ship internationally. I do not know what the abbreviation is for Sweden. For example, if you live in German you have to go to Amazon.de . So, go to the site closest to you.
I was never a spiritual person, but I read Philip Dick's The Man in The High Castle, which frequently mentioned the I Ching. I find it very intriguing, and I wish to see if this really works.
Hi, that has been a tradition, until Carol and I learned about a method to clarify the message(s) given by the first hexagram. That method (we call it the Retrospective-Three-Coin Method, or RTCM) is explained in all three books we co-authored. When we have understood those messages well enough, there is no more reason to read the second hexagram. Hanna
Happy 2023 Hanna! Curious if those hexagram sticks are available for purchase. Thank you :))
We no longer offer these sticks. We only know that you can find something similar on Amazon. Search for: I-Ching-Frits-blok. Best regards, Hanna.
Also Mike you use three coins to ask "yes or no questions".
FOR ME, a light line or _____ = no / yang and a dark / yin line or ___ ___ = yes for yes or no answers. If one is doing this with money coins then a tails is "no" and a heads is "yes".
If two of the coins is a "no" and one is a "yes" then the answer is "no" but not a DEFINITE "no" Hence, I ask another question and throw the coins again. If all THREE coins are light/no or dark/yes then this is a definite "yes" or "no".
Do all the sticks have dots on them or just a few? I am trying to figure out how the sticks work. It seems there is an equal amount of solid and broken lines on each stick but I was not sure if only two sticks had moving lines sides or all of them did.
Thank you.
The set of six sticks needs to be divided into two sets of three sticks, and marked as follows:
Both sets have three sides the same as follows: side 1: two straight lines; side 2: two broken lines; side 3: one broken line with a dot changing into a straight line.
The fourth side on set 1: two broken lines
The fourth side on set 2: two straight lines
Thank you very much ma'am. See how simple that was Mr. Mackenzie?
Now can you also start drawing the lines from top to bottom, or does it HAVE to be bottom to top?
Thank you ❤️
Thank you so much for this. Every one else seems to have forgotton the fundamental method of teaching from the beginning. I just wanted to know how you got to decide about the trigram - was it a painting, a 64 sided dice, a pack of cards? I got my answer here - at last!
everyone?
Hi there,
there is no pre-determined value attributed to either side of the coin. You can define that for yourself. The main thing is that you then stick with your definition. Hanna
Hi! This my first oracle consultance. I got exactly the same symbol, duration. The chances were 0.02% to obtain it.
Yes, it's not unusual to obtain the same hexagram two consecutive times. It could happend even 3 or 4 times.
It's nothing but probability that determines what message you get. People then interpret what it says in a way that makes it feel personal, but of course, it's not. I guess it could be entertaining though.
very clear thank you
Would it be acceptable to build a hexagram in the following way?
Flip 6 coins in a row and assign a light line to heads and a dark line to tails.
Or is there something indispensable about using the mathematical formulae you described at first? I don't understand how the lines indicating transformation apply to the reading, so perhaps I'm missing something.
I am new to the I Ching so I'm sorry if these are basic questions.
Hanna, I am watching your video again and I notice I have the same question as I did a year ago, which is funny! But how do you know light from dark lines? Is it based on odd and even numbers? I remember you responding but have cleared my old emails. Be great to hear back. Thank you.
A light line is an unbroken line. If you use three coins to toss a line, and you attribute the value 3 to the "head" side, you have received a light line when your total count is either 7 or 9. If it is 7, you have received a light line that is not changing. If you have received a 9, it's a light line that is changing. Best, Hanna
Hi Hanna, it seems the book I have by R. L. Wing teaches the opposite sums as you. For example 2 heads and a tails equaling a straight line and two tails and a heads equaling a broken(dark) line. Do you know which is the original method or teaching on this? Thank you
It does not matter. The only thing that matters is that you decide which side you want to define as value 2 and which as value 3. And then stick with it.
I would love to have the sticks!!!! Are you going to produce them again?
I can explain to you how to do it with sticks.
Hello, LordShivasServant, I appreciate your comment. The Cosmic Way has nothing to do with magic, rather it is the normal way by which the Cosmic Consciousness does things. You'll understand this better when you use our book "I Ching, The Oracle of the Cosmic Way," in which the Cosmic Principles of Harmony are described in each hexagram. Greetings, Hanna
well done!
I know this might be hard to know or remember, but where can you buy those sticks? I really like the size and look of the ones in the video. Thank you!
We no longer offer these sticks. But you can get something similar as part of a set with a book, if you go to amazon and search for I-ching-frits-blok. I have not seen the book or the sticks. Someone else sent me this hint.
@@hannamoog thank you for the help!
Hello, every time I land on a 9 ( three heads ) I make a -- -- from -----* but when I read in my I-ching book by wilhelm/baynes it reads as a Six for the changing line... For example, the bottom trigram is K'an and the top Chen. The only changing line is the last line, which when I toss my coins comes out to a 9 or -----*. The hexagram is Hsieh/ Deliverance, and the last line reads as: Six at top means: The prince shoots at a hawk on a high wall. He kills it. Everything serves to further. I have been having this issue with the line reading... It seems to be vice verse for every line. As if I am not writing down the right lines... Ive looked else where to see if the changing lines differ but everyone says that all tails or all 2 is -- --* changing into ------ and all heads or all 3 is -----* changing into -- --... This is only the confusing thing since in the book the changing lines dont seem to be corresponding with the line readings.. Please help if possible, Thank you.
Hi! Very nice video. Where I can find the four stick you used to cinsult the oracle? Wich is the name of its inventor?
@Duccio Campriani
so this is 5 years later, but i guess ill post anyway. the I Ching was originally done with sticks of Yarrow. you can probably buy those on amazon.
In you book, I Ching, The Oracle of the Cosmic Way, in the glossary (under Helpers) on page 567, there is a reference to page 682 which does not exist. The reference should be to page 535.
Sorry about that glitch. The page number refers to the first edition, we failed to correct it. Hanna
Thank you... 🌻how fascinating did my first reading im moving and getting rid of things i love and it said no disgrace in getting rid of your assets. It will help set me free! 41
Where i can buy I Ching sticks, like you have it on your video ?
Thanks for your help
Sorry, Sean Andre, the sticks are no longer available. We have replaced them with a special dice. You can purchase it through our website ichingoracle.com. Hanna
Thank you for this video; I bought an I Ching book but I found some aspects of the instructions to be a bit unclear, so it was useful to see a demonstration here.
Just one question: if you use the sticks, aren't the probabilities of drawing the equivalent of a 7 or a 9 via the coin throwing method different? As they had four sides you'd have a one in four chance of getting a moving dark line, for example, but with the coins there would only be a one in eight chance of this happening, meaning that the chances of you getting a moving line would be significantly increased.
Thank you for your question. All considerations about probability are of a purely mental nature and do not really come from a true understanding of the nature of the oracle. The Cosmic Chance Manager can give us the hexagram and changing lines that contain the message(s) intended for us at that moment, no matter which of the means you mentioned we use. Hanna
Very interesting 👌
Could you recommend a good edition of the I Ching? I can see a variety on amazon but I'm not sure which one to by. Thank you
I would recommend the version you see in the video. You can look at a "sample reading" by going to our website: ichingoracledotcom. Find this book under "books and more." Then click on "sample reading."
They used to sell small books that said iching on it I was pretty good at doing that I done that myself I wouldn't mind learning back how to do it
Hi Heidi. I am not familiar with the kind of books you are referring to. Sorry. Hanna
I am not familiar with that book, but I do know that the I Ching works when you consult it from a real need. Why don't you try it out and see how it relates to your personal need? - Hanna
Thank you :)
a clear explination
Thank you
Thanks for the explanation. I have a question, so when using the coins, are odd numbers "light" and even numbers "dark?" Thank you
It is up to you to define, to which side of the coins you assign the value 2 (dark), and which side is to represent the value 3 (light). What counts is that you stick with your definition, so that the Sage can use it.
Hanna Moog Thank you for the response. I’ll look forward to begin the practice.
Also, I went to that website to look for those sticks. But they were not there. I only found different styles of dice? I did like the sticks
GREAT tutorial! I do have a question about what to do after a hexagram is drawn, are you supposed to keep flipping the coins and asking yes or no questions based on the result of the flip? Or in other words, is there any specified way you're supposed to converse with the I ching post Hexagram. At times i feel i am being told a message through the responses, but sometimes my brain says its luck. Or that my questions are not being understood. I have received lines that tell me i come asking the wrong initial questions and that i fuel my ego, but does this also reflect on the post hexagram dialogue? All the best
Thanks for your comment. The Yes/No method, or RTCM is meant to help you communicate with the Sage in order to clarify its message to you. When your brain says it's luck, it means you are systematically doubting the answers. The presence of such doubts makes it impossible for the Sage to converse with you, which then gives rise to more doubts. To break that negative dynamic, picture your doubts as an axe (doubts split the wholeness of our true feelings). Then picture tying that axe to the strong fresh sprouts of a tree that has been cut down (=split). Doing so is the equivalent of turning your doubts over to the Helper of Nature that keeps them under control until the sprouts have grown into strong trees. (Also see Line 6 of Hexagram 12.)
Hanna Moog, once again a beautiful and timely explanation. Thank you for the guidance, this will enhance my experiences for sure. Namaste
Hanna Moog hey Hanna, quick question. Is it bad practice to consult the oracle multiple times in one day? And if no, do I need to draw another hexagram or is it a continuation of the yes/no method from the first session. Thank u again
@@Cardninja52 Yes, you can overuse it, which usually happens when you don't understand the message received in the first hexagram you drew that day. If you don't know what questions to ask to clarify the text received, you can ask the Sage to bring to mind the next question. In this way, you avoid asking questions coming from the ego.
Hanna Moog i decided not to do a second reading last night and waited until the morning. When I presented the question to the oracle I received hexagram 55 which talks about abundance.
This mentions what You are suggesting about avoiding questions from the ego. And i concluded I need to separate those questions in order to properly understand the lesson
Do you only ask the question once or should you keep it in mind on every throw?
You only need to ask the question once. Better still, also write it down, and then proceed to throw your hexagram.
Why do
you call them dark and light lines instead of broken and unbroken?
We call them dark and light lines because they represent the two Cosmic forces, which through their interplay create transformations. They are also known as YIN/YANG. The words "broken" and "unbroken" don't tell us about their nature; they belong in a mechanical language. Hanna
Or yin and yang
0/1
The problem with the three-coin method is that it does approximate the same odds as the original yarrow stalk method. For example, getting a old yin does not have the same probablity as, say, young yin. Someone clever devised a two-coin method that comes much closer, and is described here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching_divination#Two-coin_method
Andrew Dugas You mean, I think, "is that it does NOT approximate the same odds".
I am sorry you are having such difficulties. You can also order the book directly from the publisher and have it sent to Sweden. Go to the publisher's website by googling Anthony Publishing Company
@Prodigiousguy8 That's a great book, as I was mid way in it Bush gave his speech about going to Mars. Everything of PDK's that I've read had a way of bending consciousness so you wernt really sure which reality was true.
Gostei muito do vídeo.
where can I buy Dominique Rollin's iching sticks?
Hallo!What happens when one gets 2 or 3 moving lines?Is that something that will escalate or a time sequence?Puzzled.Would appreciate an answer to this,as at times it's the moving lines are quite different!positive and negative and viceversa....Thank you..
You need to use our book "I Ching, the Oracle of the Cosmic Way," because it contains a method to communicate with the Sage that speaks through the I Ching. It is called the "Retrospective-Three-Coin-Method" or RTCM. This method allows you to develop the art of communicating with the Sage and clarify the Sage's message to you at that time.
@ALEKHINE1927 It cannot be the subject of a ten minute video to explain in detail what is involved when we consult the I Ching. What I demonstrated was the technical aspect of how to obtain an answer. As to the various relationships between hexagrams and trigrams I, personally, would not put the emphasis on that aspect. What counts for me is a sincere desire to understand the I Ching's message. No moving lines? If you post this question again, I will have more space to reply. - Hanna
I don't think I Ching is to grant you wishes to come true. So you don't have to think about your subject when tossing the coins. I Ching is to conduct change when life choices seem to get to a standstill or at a moment of choice which you don't seem to know what to choose. At those times it is good to consult the I Ching to stir up change and a new direction. Now that direction may or may not be good, but at least if it's a bad change you know after that what change to take instead, so it would be a butterfly effect of changes. I don't think the sticks is random enough to have a thorough change, they used coins or even 50 yarrow sticks in ancient china for a reason, even if it was to let you take the time to form the hexagram and that in itself might have a meditative and therapeutic effect, so when you do read your consult, you will be in an ease state of mind. There are no shortcuts to life choices, the journey matters more than the destination.
do the sticks actually work? do they have a name?
you mention a Dominique "Vaulais" ? for the sticks? could you not put the details in the description, please?
His name is Dominique Rollé. I am not sure what you mean by "not putting the details in the description. ??? Hanna
Where can i buy this book?
Too bad those oracle sticks don't seem to be available on the website anymore. Anyone have any ideas where to get them?
I can send you the instructions how to make them yourself. Contact me through our website ichingoracledotcom.
I'm interested in making my own sticks. Do you know where i can find a pattern so i can mark the 6 sticks correctly on all 4 sides? I like the idea of creating my own divination tools rather than buying a set that wasn't crafted with my own intentions and hands. Lol,i hope that doesn't sound too woo woo.
I can send you a description of the pattern. Please contact me through our website ichingoracledotcom. Hanna
I don't think the sticks is random enough to have a thorough change, they used coins in ancient china for a reason, even if it was to let you take the time to form the hexagram and that in itself might have a meditative and therapeutic effect, so when you do read your consult, you will be in an ease state of mind. There are no shortcuts to life choices, the journey matters more than the destination.
Mike as somebody new to the I-Ching, let ME try to help guide you.
You are missing ONE of 5 things.
Pick the best answer.
1/ the definitive book on the I-Ching by Richard Wihelm
2/ Hanna Moog's book
3/ a library card
4/ time to learn and digest all of the above
5/ all of the above
namaste
The I Ching, as we, C.Anthony and I, understand it, shows us the Cosmos as a self-correcting system of harmonious principles. When we violate them by creating ideas that are not in harmony, we create a fate, either individually or collectively. The fate has multiple purposes: to bring us back to our senses, and back to earth and give us the opportunity to reflect on our mistaken thinking. (See Hexagram 51, Shock.) Fate protects the harmonious Cosmic order like an invisible brick wall.
Hanna.
You can buy it at amazon.com
What do you think about the King Wen vs Fu Hsi arrangement?
To Justin Moore. In my experience, it does not matter how the trigrams are arranged in a circular order. What is known as the pre-heaven order of Fu Hsi emphasizes their complementarity. It is important not to call them "opposites" - something invented by humans. Opposition does not exist in the harmonious Cosmic order. Hanna
Would you be able to use chance cubes instead of coins?
Hi Jason, if you go to our website "ichingoracledotcom" and click on "books and more," you will see that we now offer dice to consult the I Ching. Greetings, Hanna Moog
I have 10 6 sided dice with the first 6 Trigrams
1: ☰ Heaven (Qian)
2: ☷ Earth (Kun)
3: ☵ Water (Kan)
4: ☲ Fire (Li)
5: ☳ Thunder (Zhen)
6: ☴ Wind/Wood (Xun) on it, since its not 8 sided im missing
☶ Mountain (Gen)
☱ Lake (Dui)
are these dice worthless or is there something i can do with them?
can we do this with dices?