What a FANTASTIC lil torch !🔦 I got the extension tube and the 10440 battery and it last alot longer and it's about 200 more lumens!! Get the extension tube man..I don't doubt it will reach out to 450- 500 meters now! It's definitely much better.
That's one crazy little torch. Cool that you found a battery tube that fits that so it'll accept the 10440. Well done on another great video & I'm very surprised that you don't have more subs than you do cause i feel you offer way more info than other channels that i follow. Keep up the great work 👍🏻
Thanks V much - but to fair, my earlier vids where a bit shit (at least) in terms of video quality. If I knew then what I do now (a common theme in life!) my reviews would have been better presented and displayed :) I do actually use the lights I review having given them many nights/hours use :)
Bro you mean fenix e01 v2.0 ??? I already purchase gt nano with extra aaa 10440 tube but its not working so thats why i wanna purchase the aaa 10440 tube for gt nano.if the tube of fenix e01 v2.0 really work in gt nano then tell me...
maybe it's old info because I just bought a gt nano and a frog. bought (2) 10440 tube with (4) 10440 3.7 350mah Batts. I have no way of testing like you, but my extensions are lumintop made and branded. both lights seem to work great with them. again, short term use so far. I like them.
This vid, is out of date. When I got mine the extension tube wasn't availble and the rumour was around possible issues with the LED - emphasis rumour! Many months on and lumintop are supplying the longer tube, which is all I use nowadays, no issues for me and no more rumours :)
Hi, I have the nano and just got the extension tube. I noticed you used max ramp but not turbo. My Nano has double click for turbo. Maybe when people put a high drain battery they get the blue led...I see where I can get a 3a vapcell or blue jacket cells that are icr not high drain but wondered if you can still access turbo with them. Yours doesn't appear to be high drain. Thanks, cheers.
I ask the seller and he sold me a dedicated extension tube. It looks like the short, original one, except the bunny marking. I can see the light even at 390m, while its not pitch dark. At 290 m i see it clearly on a white wall. Distances according to Google maps.
The only thing I wish they'd have done differently, is to make the head wall thickness, thinner. It could have been 1.5-3mm smaller in diameter had Lumintop not made it unnecessarily beefy.
Yes, 2.84 volts is over-discharging the cell. But the cell is not damaged beyond use or unsafe.But peace of mind is a different subject altogether and it carries more weight; I would have done exactly the same as you and play it safe. A fresh battery means you can sleep soundly at night not listening for that hiss... Bang! The Samsung factory recommended operating voltage range from the datasheet for lithium cells are: OK - Normal Operation Voltage: 2.5 to 4.2 - Over Discharging Voltage: 1.5 to 2.5 NOT OK - Cell Un-useable Under Voltage: 0.0 to 1.5 - Cell Un-useable Over Voltage: over 4.25 If the cell is discharged less than 1.5 Volt DO NOT USE and dispose of safely. If the cell is charged greater than 4.25 Volt DO NOT USE and dispose of safely. But the story doesn't end there. These Samsung data sheet values are derived from cells under load(drawing current from the cell). This means that the values are lower than when cells are unloaded(open voltage). It can be seen that a loaded voltage of 2.5 volt will immediately jump up to 3.3 volt when the load is removed and slowly reach 3.4 volt after 1 hour. So at 3.3 volt when a cell is measured with no load, they are fully discharged to their safe minimum value. You are correct, 2.84 volts is over-discharging the cell. But the cell is not damaged. It requires the cell to charged with pre-charging, when the voltage is low the battery must not be charged at full current. A reduced current must be used. But this is feature built into all good quality chargers. When a battery is discharged to this low voltage it may lose some capacity and will lose some lifetime, but is still perfectly serviceable.
How is the battery life compared to the 10180? I just bought the tube off Amazon. I'm also wanting to find a clip that will fit so I can use it on a hat.
I find it funny when people think they can cause damage by adding what essentially is a bigger heat sink allowing it too cool much faster than the original tube...
Would 10440 discharge any lower than the 10180? Not sure what the limits on the 10180. Any idea if a protected cell would fit either in that tube or the official tube that recently came out?
I don't think 10440 would discharge more - I think either would be compromised. I haven't managed to source any protected 10440's yet. There are difficult to get hold of!
@@flashlightsuk1422 yeah it looks like it's an issue there. We can get them here- from battery junction I think but yeah. It would be really cool if they'd come out with a necked-down tube for 14500s. Would leave a lot more options and capacity for only a little bit more length. I'd like to get this one. The head's big enough on this one it's even larger on the next size up. But tiny little battery. Or if they could just have this head on the Micro.
You can delete a battery to 2.5 v and then, when it drops below that, it's unsafe. Not the best for the internal resistance but it's nothing that's going to take like 50 charge cycles off the battery (as far as I know). I would post proof of studies on NCA lithium ion but UA-cam won't allow me. I have not seen any proof that dropping below 3v is unsafe or substantial.
Wish they would come out with a two cell. I prefer throw over flood flashlights, but all the throw flashlights are too bulky and heavy to carry. If anyone knows any flashlights that are two cell aaa size with a tight hotspot, let me know. Thanks
The issue was suggested to be the ampage of a 10440 driving the led to hard, whereas the 10180's have a 'self limitation' in terms the ampage they can chuck out. Its certainly true the average 10440 can deliver more amps than a 10180 - but like you I wondered if it would make any difference. So far, and I'm still using it, it appears not.
Excellent video and great information. Fast forward to July 2022 and Lumintop is now selling 10440 Extension Tube for GT Nano.
Nice review, good to see someone mix things up and thoroughly test stuff so we don’t set ourselves on fire 😂. 👍
Lol thanks :)
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What a FANTASTIC lil torch !🔦
I got the extension tube and the 10440 battery and it last alot longer and it's about 200 more lumens!! Get the extension tube man..I don't doubt it will reach out to 450- 500 meters now! It's definitely much better.
Glad to see someone else did this I had to put a little brass ring in the first flashlight I did it with
That's one crazy little torch. Cool that you found a battery tube that fits that so it'll accept the 10440. Well done on another great video & I'm very surprised that you don't have more subs than you do cause i feel you offer way more info than other channels that i follow. Keep up the great work 👍🏻
Thanks V much - but to fair, my earlier vids where a bit shit (at least) in terms of video quality. If I knew then what I do now (a common theme in life!) my reviews would have been better presented and displayed :)
I do actually use the lights I review having given them many nights/hours use :)
you can also use the fenix e01 tube.same thread cut and diameter
Bro you mean fenix e01 v2.0 ???
I already purchase gt nano with extra aaa 10440 tube but its not working so thats why i wanna purchase the aaa 10440 tube for gt nano.if the tube of fenix e01 v2.0 really work in gt nano then tell me...
@@jimmikhan1980 yup.it works well
@@oniolivares9750 thankyou so much bro
Difference between you and Frankenstein, you created a cute little monster. First time viewer, really enjoyed watching this video
after this video gt nano fix extra tube for 10440 bat. Nice work
Is it working ok - mine is :)
Thanks for the cool torch videos.
Very nice mod! Thanks for video.
May be Lumintop will be manufactured a long 10440 tube as option.
Hopefully and I wonder why they didn;t!
Mine is much much better now...
It looks like Lumintop now has a 10440 tube for this light directly from them.
lumintoplighting.com/products/lumintop-gt-nano-10440-tube-139
@@jazzyrick Yes they do - well over due!
maybe it's old info because I just bought a gt nano and a frog.
bought (2) 10440 tube with (4) 10440 3.7 350mah Batts. I
have no way of testing like you, but my extensions are lumintop
made and branded. both lights seem to work great with them.
again, short term use so far. I like them.
This vid, is out of date. When I got mine the extension tube wasn't availble and the rumour was around possible issues with the LED - emphasis rumour! Many months on and lumintop are supplying the longer tube, which is all I use nowadays, no issues for me and no more rumours :)
Hi, I have the nano and just got the extension tube. I noticed you used max ramp but not turbo. My Nano has double click for turbo. Maybe when people put a high drain battery they get the blue led...I see where I can get a 3a vapcell or blue jacket cells that are icr not high drain but wondered if you can still access turbo with them. Yours doesn't appear to be high drain. Thanks, cheers.
I ask the seller and he sold me a dedicated extension tube. It looks like the short, original one, except the bunny marking.
I can see the light even at 390m, while its not pitch dark. At 290 m i see it clearly on a white wall. Distances according to Google maps.
Luminitop now offers the extension on their website.
Perfect fit 😃
Sweet 👍👍👍
Ultratech k18 was the first one I used lumen top has two or three that'll work on it
The only thing I wish they'd have done differently, is to make the head wall thickness, thinner. It could have been 1.5-3mm smaller in diameter had Lumintop not made it unnecessarily beefy.
They are leaving margin for better heat capacity and dissipation I guess, also for some extra strength.
Nah. You can't just pack all that in that close together
You were ahead of your time… they’re sold as a 10440 set now!
It needed it, those little diddy things were naff
Yes, 2.84 volts is over-discharging the cell. But the cell is not damaged beyond use or unsafe.But peace of mind is a different subject altogether and it carries more weight; I would have done exactly the same as you and play it safe. A fresh battery means you can sleep soundly at night not listening for that hiss... Bang!
The Samsung factory recommended operating voltage range from the datasheet for lithium cells are:
OK
- Normal Operation Voltage: 2.5 to 4.2
- Over Discharging Voltage: 1.5 to 2.5
NOT OK
- Cell Un-useable Under Voltage: 0.0 to 1.5
- Cell Un-useable Over Voltage: over 4.25
If the cell is discharged less than 1.5 Volt DO NOT USE and dispose of safely.
If the cell is charged greater than 4.25 Volt DO NOT USE and dispose of safely.
But the story doesn't end there. These Samsung data sheet values are derived from cells under load(drawing current from the cell). This means that the values are lower than when cells are unloaded(open voltage).
It can be seen that a loaded voltage of 2.5 volt will immediately jump up to 3.3 volt when the load is removed and slowly reach 3.4 volt after 1 hour.
So at 3.3 volt when a cell is measured with no load, they are fully discharged to their safe minimum value.
You are correct, 2.84 volts is over-discharging the cell. But the cell is not damaged. It requires the cell to charged with pre-charging, when the voltage is low the battery must not be charged at full current. A reduced current must be used. But this is feature built into all good quality chargers. When a battery is discharged to this low voltage it may lose some capacity and will lose some lifetime, but is still perfectly serviceable.
Ahoj, v oficiálním obchodě Lumintop na Aliexpresu mají nyní originální tubu 10440 k svítilně GT NANO 😉
Can you use a button top cell with the tube?? I got the tube but the 800mA AAA DIDN'T WORK
can it use lumintop edc01 tube?
How is the battery life compared to the 10180? I just bought the tube off Amazon.
I'm also wanting to find a clip that will fit so I can use it on a hat.
What is the Tailcap Amps of this flashlight at turbo?
Так в итоге,сколько он теперь в турбо до степдауна держит?
I find it funny when people think they can cause damage by adding what essentially is a bigger heat sink allowing it too cool much faster than the original tube...
Would 10440 discharge any lower than the 10180? Not sure what the limits on the 10180. Any idea if a protected cell would fit either in that tube or the official tube that recently came out?
I don't think 10440 would discharge more - I think either would be compromised.
I haven't managed to source any protected 10440's yet. There are difficult to get hold of!
@@flashlightsuk1422 yeah it looks like it's an issue there. We can get them here- from battery junction I think but yeah.
It would be really cool if they'd come out with a necked-down tube for 14500s. Would leave a lot more options and capacity for only a little bit more length. I'd like to get this one. The head's big enough on this one it's even larger on the next size up. But tiny little battery. Or if they could just have this head on the Micro.
How do I disable the auto step down, I did what it says in the manual, but it doesn't work? Those 3 blinks and step down every 10 seconds annoys me.
I don't believe you can disable the heat related step down nor the battery warning blinks...
i‘ve heard the same, you can disable it anyhow...
You can delete a battery to 2.5 v and then, when it drops below that, it's unsafe. Not the best for the internal resistance but it's nothing that's going to take like 50 charge cycles off the battery (as far as I know).
I would post proof of studies on NCA lithium ion but UA-cam won't allow me.
I have not seen any proof that dropping below 3v is unsafe or substantial.
You might be right - It's like a game of chicken when ur messing about - where do you draw the line and call it quits?
@@flashlightsuk1422 I personally call it quits at 2.7 v because I don't like going below that.
Thanks for the review.
With the longer tube, what's the overall length please ?
80 millimeters....
We’re can I get a night fox mini k3? As I can’t find one anywhere?
www.amazon.com/Keychain-flashlight-K3-multipurpose-tablelight/dp/B076P9HV1L
Is there a possible way to find a two cell tube, and connect the batteries in parallel. That would be a pretty sweet flashlight in my opinion.
I haven't come across one.Since I did this video Lumintop released there own tube extension but only for one cell.
Wish they would come out with a two cell. I prefer throw over flood flashlights, but all the throw flashlights are too bulky and heavy to carry. If anyone knows any flashlights that are two cell aaa size with a tight hotspot, let me know. Thanks
If the cells are the same voltage, it makes no difference surely?
The issue was suggested to be the ampage of a 10440 driving the led to hard, whereas the 10180's have a 'self limitation' in terms the ampage they can chuck out.
Its certainly true the average 10440 can deliver more amps than a 10180 - but like you I wondered if it would make any difference. So far, and I'm still using it, it appears not.
Nitefox Где купить такой фонарик!?
you sorted it nice 1 do you think its more powerful now
I don't think so - but defo more battery life :) - Transformed the light tbh (so long as it doesn't pack in!)
@@flashlightsuk1422 HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA hope not
Will a triple A battery work ?
Hi - no, a AAA is the wrong voltage...
@@flashlightsuk1422 do i need higher voltage
@@qapsukalek Yes this light needs a 3.7v 10440 cell if you're using the extension tube..
nice to know it doesn't protect your battery l&s
Thanks...
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