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I had Canon, too slow to upgrade to mirrorless, so I chose Sony and Sony is the system I recommend to other photographers, there are so many choices of different Cameras and even more choices of E-mount Lenses, I am very happy using Sony Cameras with Sony Lenses, Zeiss Lenses and Voigtländer Lenses.
I"m quite happy with my Canon cameras and lenses, but I'll echo what other folks have commented here: It's perfectly normal to be loyal to a particular brand, but my feeling has always been, as long as the camera you're using does the job for you, that's the only thing that matters.
The reason there is loyalty to a brand is because their equipment is reliable and their line of glass is impeccable. that's why there such loyal following with Canon as before with Nikon.
Yeah it really sucks with the rf lenses. Ive heard they are opening to 3rd party soon but it really does suck you would need to get an ef 3rd party lens and then get a converter
@@nicks8484 if you are shooting Canon, I really hope they do for your sake! I moved to Sony from Canon a while back due to Canon crippling video functions. Now I find Sony doesn't update their firmware, leaving even flagship camera's with old software that don't get even basic newer features. So I guess we all have to deal with these problems, just in different ways🥲 Love Sony's own and 3rd party lens selection though
@@TheArtist441 yeah i went with a canon r8 for my first camera. I love it so much and really have no issues besides minor things like no IBIS. RF glass is great but goddamn no 3rd party sucks
Lens choices ?? Sony or the 3rd parties will never have a 10 or 11mm rectilinear lens for the Sony 46mm mount - this mount is too small. So... if you want the widest possible choices of lens focal lengths, eg 10mm UWA, you will have to stick with Canons bigger 52mm mount.
This is a very specific focal length needed for 1% of photographers. And a large selection of inexpensive high-quality lenses is needed by almost everyone.
I switched from Canon RF to Sony In March 2023 and no regrets. It was PAINFUL selling all my Canon gear but once it was all gone and I replaced most of my Canon lenses with Sony eMount I was happy. Even kept a few EF Canon lenses such as the Caon EF 135mm f2L and 100L Macro and use with the Sigma MC-11 adapter.
Sony or the 3rd parties will never have a 10 or 11mm rectilinear lens for the Sony 46mm mount - this mount is too small. So... if you want the widest possible choices of lens focal lengths, eg 10mm UWA, you will have to stick with Canons bigger 52mm mount.
@@nordic5490 how many times are you going to say this? Most people don't need this. I will never understand why some folks think because they need something everyone does...
Since the launch of A7iii in 2018 and the introduction of third-party zoom lenses like Tamron 28-75, Sony has gradually become a reliable brand for working professionals in both stills and video. However, it has also become less fun to use (e.g. mediocre screen, handling, IBIS), less value-friendly (e.g. a7IV compared to a7III, expensive flagship A1 without many firmware updates), and less well-rounded (more and more product lines).
I started out with Sony mirrorless in early 2013 with my photography journey. Went to Nikon for the old school Nikon lenses and ergonomics, but left Nikon when their mirrorless AF and features lagged behind the rest. I went to Canon now with R6 and RF lenses and I'm incredibly happy. Why not Sony? I don't need a million lenses, especially third party. I prefer first party lenses for assured QC and reliability and performance. The RF35 and RFR70-200 are more than good enough for me, and for the price they are fair and I don't see a good cheap 35mm option for Sony. The RF35 is incredibly sharp, has amazing IBIS, is compact and cheap. Also, Canon has better IBIS, ergonomics, low light performance on R6, and repair customer service. Colors start to shift and contrast is lost on high ISO for A7 IV, but R6 looks incredibly well in really high ISO for hobby purposes. The Sony A7 IV would be my second choice, but I am happy with the R6 and RF lenses. Fuji? The build quality was terrible with the XS10 and XT30 I had and the AF is worse that point and shoots from 15 years ago. They felt like toys
The best camera is the one you have in your hands. :) We live in a time where any of the major brands produce stellar equipment. I've shot Canon, Nikon, and I'm on Sony now. All three have been great and all three have had minor issues. It comes down to your shooting style and needs IMO. Of the three brands I still love the color of Nikon over Canon/Sony. That being said, some post work does the trick. Ergonomics, Canon or Nikon over Sony for me. The A1 is almost there but not nearly as comfortable as a Nikon/Canon. When it comes to tracking/speed/image capture... the A1 has been stellar and leaps and bounds over the previous brands/models I've owned. Nice video... I agree with many of your points. Keep up the great work. :)
In my opinion it depends on what you're doing with your camera. I tried both, Sony and Canon and came back to Canon because the 1DX and now the R3 felt much better for me. I'm usually doing Sportsphotography. I love the autofocus which is controlled by my eye and that helps me so much with taking pictures of sports and events.
so true I use my canons (10000D and R8) to plan photoshoots, so finding a location, and picking a time and angle. and then take my compositions on my Konica Autoflex TC (a 35mm or Analog camera). the R8 is great flow lightght form my experience.
Brands are often about feelings. I had a 5dsr who was considered a studiocamera, but I shot everything with it. Out in the Snow -20 degrees, nights, streets..portraits. It was good for a lot of things. Thats why I went from sony a7r IV to canon r5 and their most known zooms. Leaving two a7rIVS and a lot of primes. The R5 is good, but I noticed it struggled with focus in low light. Shooting the aurora I often had to go to manual. Not an issue with sony at all. Canon are expencive, bulky and big and heavy to drag around in the wild. The Sony feels better in the hand. I like the canon but I waited for ages for them to come out with new lenses..primes..and eventually I gave up and bought into two A7rVs instead, starting to build up with primes and zooms. Its not recommended switching so much as its expencive. But now I have found the right gear for me, finally satisfied. All in all, the brand does not matter that much, both Canon and Sony are good. You just have to find out what is best for you.
I use Canon at work for GCSE and A Level photography as students can easily change settings and understand what happens. At how I now only use Sony (was Fuji all the way until my daughter got the A6400) and love how quick the focus is and how much you can individualise the camera. I enjoy the Sony system and now have the RX100iii and A7C. Love your work and thank you for your well thought out content (I share lots of your work with my classes during the academic year). From Rural Lincolnshire UK
At this time... if anyone still arguing which is better.. is just clueless and gear folks more than actual photographer or someone who love taking photos. Any brand makes good camera now or at least gear that can produce picture.. it is up to the user whether they know how to use a camera or which is more comfortable brand for them if that matters. Also to add... now post process is a big part of whether the final photo is nice or amazing. If you cant or not good at that.. doesnt matter Canon or sony or any brand.. photo will just be alright but not good/great.
i went to some photo competition, i used canon eos r with 50mm 1.2 ... and the winner is some guy with canon 550D with takumar lens, there was LEICA M9, Nikon 850D, Sony A9, Fujifilm GFX 50, even some guy bring the Phase One ... my god its a WAR !! ... But in the end, the experience, framing, timing, is the key.
Let’s face it. Both systems are incredible. Nikon, too. Even Fuji is very impressive if you don’t need FF. For me it comes down to lens choices, prices and investments. I’ve invested in Sony lenses and, therefore, don’t change now. Go with whatever camera system feels good for you and is affordable for you. You cannot go “wrong“ these days. The cameras now are better than the cameras we had ten years ago in almost every aspect. My advice: Get a solid body, learn how to use it properly and then invest in lenses rather than camera bodies. Much more value over time. And you will be able to take full advantage of your camera. Lastly, get out there and shoot!
I really like the Sony system and that’s after using Nikon DSLRs professionally for many years until the advent of mirrorless. I saw how great this new technology was and saw that Sony was the clear leader so went all in on Sony selling off the Nikon equipment. Fast forward a few years and I am 100% satisfied with the Sony platform. I can use best in class optics from Sony directly or choose other great lenses from Zeiss, Voigtlander, Sigma, Tamron, Samyang, etc.. I like the ergonomics, performance and ultimately the most important aspect to me is image quality and dynamic range which Sony sensors have and are rated amongst the top sensors in the world. I like the small compact size and Sony has been the most reliable system I’ve used in terms of durability with very few repairs over the years. I also really like Sony Pro Support and been happy with every interaction I’ve had with them. I often envy certain aspects of other brands but as you said it ultimately comes down to using your brain and creativity to capture amazing photos and all cameras coming out these days are great tool. Thanks for the insights, I’ve been wondering what your thoughts were regarding the Canon since you recently received it. Always enjoy your enthusiasm and videos, keep up the great work!
well nikon are using sony sensors...even back from days of d3, d750 or such...gues where that dynamic range came from, sony sensor ofc :) Golden rule was for years: -canon for colors, but a bit softer (own sensors) -nikon for sharpness and dynamic range (sony sensors) Remember year when first A7 came out..pro guys laughed so much (its a toy, small lens, bla bla) but sony destroying it with dynamic range, low iso etc...and look 10 years later everyone copy them!
Nikons Z mount is technically not completely closed off to third party lenses, but the third party options for Z mount is extremely limited, and you pay a premium vs the E-mount for the same lens. What I don't like about the E-mount is the lack of any lenses wider than 16mm that takes filters. Nikon and Canon have a 14mm that takes filters, but I feel the E-mount is just too small to build such a lens.
I used a1 and R3,for kingfisher diving, almost every day.Then I selected a1,and sold R3. And I bought R6markⅡ, for taking pictures of night airplane. I think generally Canon camera is good,But for amateur photographer like me,Sony camera's compactness is very important. I am in Hawaii for travel, I selected a6700 and R6markⅡ.But I use only a6700. I probably get zv-e1,instead of R6markⅡ. And a1 is the best camera for me.
Hi Pierre, Sony and Canon are very good and solid Cameras with great Optics. I haven't had a Sony Camera but i have had a Canon Camera and have been happy with it. I shoot with Nikon but i do appreciated Canon and Sony photographers, they all speak very highly of both brands. I do agree with the Screen of Canon being more crispier. Thanks Pierre for this fun topic. 😃
I switched from Nikon mirrorless to Sony and picked up the Sony a7riv and was blown away by the images it took and love the 3rd party len options. But I second-guessed myself so I rented the Canon R5 and the 85 mm f1.2 RF lens and even though it took beautiful photos I really like the menu for the Sony and the natural colors Sony produced. I like how the feel and size of the Sony cameras even though I have size 4 XL hands I just preferred the Sony. But I wish Sony would produce an 85 mm f1.2 like the Canon lens. That is a remarkable lens. But since I upgraded to the a7rv the evf is beautiful and the flip out screen is perfect. And once you use the a7rv and the 135mm GM for portraits you will be a believer. I am not brand loyal either so whatever gets the job done the best and the easiest is what I prefer and Sony is doing it for me.
I like Canon ergonomics but that won't matter when lenses are too expensive, so I traded my Canon RP for Sony A7IV and now I have full set of f2.8 lenses + couple 1.4 fast primes for less than the price of just one Canon RF 2.8 lens.
Hey Pierre, I have a question about a piece of gear you use. I really like your Hot Shoe Cover on your A1 it looks cool. It has the Sony Alpha Logo on it. I was wondering how you got it.
I've used Nikon and Canon for years and now I am in Sony camp. Sad to say but there is no more camera wars. In mirrorless world Sony is years ahead generally as system. Smaller and lighter lenses, beautiful color rendition and DR, sensor tech, third party lens, best video codec, best camera body customization in the market... It is game over.
@@lesson.3012 no it's not. Sony is started with milc technology development couple of years before Canon and Nikon. At the same time Sony is in technology development company with greatest potential so the conclusion can be made very simply.
@@DuskoJovicSony lead the way in mirrorless for a while sure, but these days there’s little difference in bodies and tech. The lens situation is a different story.
The short answer is, both brands produce good images, at least in the flagship models anyhow, eg, the A1, the R5 and R3. Both brands have good glass available - it doesnt matter who makes the glass. Both brands have similar high iso performance per pixel area. I personally found the A1 too small for my hands, but the a1 will be perfect for others. The biggest differentiator is; Sonys 46mm mount vs Canon (and Nikon) 52mm mount. One of my favorite lenses in my Samyang 10mm rectilinear EF mount, adapted to my R5. 10mm is wide, truly wide, and, where it is needed there is no substiure. Straightening a 8mm fisheye gives very soft corners, and, once cropped rectangular, is 10-11mm or wider anyhow. Sonys 46mm will vignette a 10mm rectilinear, and thus, is a deal breaker for me. Sony really needs to update their mount to 52mm. Canons new 10-20mm F4 rectilinear looks to be a winner for UWA enthusiasts, and realestate. Sony or others could not release this type of lens for the Sony 46mm mount - it would vignette at the wide end. All the rest of the arguments & comments are just noise. There is only one real show stopping limitation, and that is the small 46mm mount size.
@@nordic5490 ye ye... We've been hearing the same story for years from some "experts" that Sony can't make f1.2 lenses because the mount is too small for a full-frame mirrorless system. Now, on the same mount, we have the smallest, fastest, lightest, and optically best 50mm f1.2 lens. Let's ignore these stories about what can or can't be done because we don't have enough of technical knowledge for that. We photographers should use this equipment and share our experiences, leaving the technicals and predictions job to the engineers. It's truly incredible that anyone could even think that the financially, technologically, and research-wise most powerful company in the world would let itself be limited by a mount that doesn't allow them to create everything they want in the technology we have now. Canon RF is currently worst system on the FF market. First, they have worst sensor of all FF brands. Second, they have worst lens choice on the market... You tellin me about 10-40 and 8mm fisheye and your system dont have any of f1.4 primes which are pro standars for years. And third... They forcingly keep trapped all their users in a closed system for any other third party lens. Things cant be worser. But hey if you are fine to be in system like that I am finewith that to. :)
The age old question I am struggeling myself. I love my Canon R6. But I think Canon needs to size down in size and weight with the lenses and bodies. This is the biggest factor why I am tempted to switch. And lens choice of course. On the other side, the body feel, menu style/design are still better for my taste. Image quality is great with both.
I want to start with a beginner camera but still undecided if I should go Sony or canon. I see a lot of people complaining about lack of firmware updates for Sony’s cameras. Is this true and is it a deal breaker for any of you?
Canon definitely has at present the best cameras for beginners. Just see which camera suits better your tasks. Canon R8 is the best budget full frame camera in the world now. If you want an apsc camera, then Canon R7, R10 or even R50 are all superb and far exceed all the rivals from other brands.
I wonder if you've ever tried a lumix system...I've personally switched from sony to a new full frame lumix recently and i have to say the ergonomics/buttons/customisability feels so much better to me and is worth the minor differences in image quality for me.
I've been using the Nikon D3200 for almost a decade and in 2023, still don't have any problem with the image quality. but Nikon doesn't care about budget lenses for amateurs and hobby photographers and also I need to Invest in a system to support my vlogging and astrophotography activities at a good level for the price. Sony is amazing in these roles but still a little expensive for me, but Canon is not compatible with third-party optics. so I guess Sony is a reasonable choice for me, because I need to buy just 2 bodies and optics are more important when it comes to price. Thank you for these details bro! ♥
I really like your videos. Bought A7R III few weeks ago and i am glad that i choose it over canon because i would have to empty all my budget on lenses at hte moment i have kit lens from sony and tamron 28-75 g2 and im looking ofrward to take many pics with it.
I’ve been shooting film since the 70’s. The only film cameras I have left are Canon and Olympus. I started my digital photography with Canon, then Fuji and Olympus and now I’ve settled on Sony. I still have my Olympus E-M1 mkii, which I just love and will probably never get rid of because it fits my hand really well and the image quality is very good. Same with the Sony A7 series. Sony fits my hand very well and is comfortable to carry. All of the digital cameras I have owned have very good image quality and I’d shoot any of them again. It’s not the camera, it’s the operator.
Fantastic video Pierre, full of sensible information as usual, Nice to see un-biased opinion as not many creators like to be as creative as you. Thank you.
After seeing so many photos on instagram from Sony users, I wish I had invested in Sony instead of canon.. I’m about $3,000-$4,000 invested in Canon already.
Finally a race for performance after a decade of stalemate competition between Canon and Nikon. Both competitors, Canon and Sony, now making great gear but as a student and practitioner of marketing strategy one may expect one of these two to emerge dominant in the war for market share. Historically the winner emerges with twice the share of #2 and number two to have twice that of #3. Time will tell if this academic model proves true. I shoot Sony not because of better cameras but because of the huge savings from third party glass and my lenses are Sigma, Tamron and Sony G-Master but mostly Sigma and Tamron.
The debate over the color science is silly as many photographers say it is. Because even as you said those colors will change with any kind of work that you do in post. Thanks for making this video.
I'm thinking about going from Canon RF (and EF) to Sony due to all the issues and stuff thats happening with the latest Canon camera's. Stuff like overheating, video crop, software bugs etc. But the only thing being a barrier for me is how sony doesn't have a fully articulating screen and canon body's feeling better in my hand.
"sony doesn't have a fully articulating screen"?? This is misinformation! Many Sony bodies have fully articulating screens! Currently I own A7R5 (the best, 4D articulating screen), Sony FX30 (fully articulating screen) and Sony A7C (fully articulating screen).
@@krishnastock I never said all of Sony doesnt have it. but not the ones in the same pricecategory as most canon body's. There are indeed some Sony's which have fully articulating screens, for instance the ones you mentioned and the most recent ones in the "vlogging" category such as the ZV-e10
Have you personally had these issues or are you just getting scared by all the click bait videos on youtube? You do realize more youtube channels are sponsored by Sony? Hence the Sony bias? I have no issues with my R6.
@@ThisIsDavesGarage I didn't had this myself with my EOS RP. And after this post 2 months ago, I looked up some other videos and they mentioned the overheating and videocrop on some sony's too. Sorry if it sounded too much as sony bias, Its sometimes kinda difficult to notice which videos are sponsored-bias and which are true opinions/specifications.
The short answer is, both brands produce good images, at least in the flagship models anyhow, eg, the A1, the R5 and R3. Both brands have good glass available - it doesnt matter who makes the glass. Both brands have similar high iso performance per pixel area. I personally found the A1 too small for my hands, but the a1 will be perfect for others. The biggest differentiator is; Sonys 46mm mount vs Canon (and Nikon) 52mm mount. One of my favorite lenses in my Samyang 10mm rectilinear EF mount, adapted to my R5. 10mm is wide, truly wide, and, where it is needed there is no substiure. Straightening a 8mm fisheye gives very soft corners, and, once cropped rectangular, is 10-11mm or wider anyhow. Sonys 46mm will vignette a 10mm rectilinear, and thus, is a deal breaker for me. Sony really needs to update their mount to 52mm. Canons new 10-20mm F4 rectilinear looks to be a winner for UWA enthusiasts, and realestate. Sony or others could not release this type of lens for the Sony 46mm mount - it would vignette at the wide end. All the rest of the arguments & comments are just noise. There is only one real show stopping limitation, and that is the small 46mm mount size. Btw, can you take a selfie still or vlog, whilst composing your self with a Sony ? No. The screen doesnt fold around like Canons. 2nd deal breaker for me.
If you already have a Sony or Canon system and are still here watching to decide whether to switch to either then your "Focus" is in the wrong place. Or shall I say you are spending too much time studying the capabilities of the cameras rather than learning how to shoot well! The tools are only as good as the user. Don't just blame your tools! I am using Sony and when my shots did not come out well, I ask myself what I did wrong and not why the camera is not producing good shots!
Been using the R6 for the last year and a wedding photographer and film maker and it's the first camera I've felt like I never need to upgrade for any reason. The video quality is incredible. if you need more dynamic range then I don't know what you are doing wrong. It grades beautifully and runs super smooth on my MacBook. The low light capabilities are ridiculously good. 12800 iso is usable, do you need that? Almost never but it's nice to have. And then the colours... Id say Sony is good but canon is just way better than anything else. Lenses are amazing. you can find soooooo many second hand options and you can adapt anything. the only thing I would upgrade for is better quality 120p, that's it😂If you can't get good result with either of these camera brands its not the camera, its you.
Canon is better , that's true but the problem is lens selection, as a system they are far behind Sony, without opening their mount to third party then will never win over Sony.
@@neethuandthomasphotography Agreed but they still have the Ef conversation. I have had no noticeable difference in performance. I’ve used sigma glass, older EF L-series lenses(even some from the 90s), vintages lenses(you can convert any vintage lens to ef), tamron, Carl Zeiss lenses.😂 The list is endless with the EF converter, Waaaaaay more lenses than the E mount. Even so most people are going to stick to the usual 24-70, 70-200, 15-35 and a few primes like a 24, 35, 50 and an 85(let’s also not forget how cheap and insanely good canon primes can be). Is there really more that you need then that?
I've never understodd the argument about lens selection. How many lenses does a working photographer use? I shot events and I use two lenses, an RF 28-70 and an EF 70-200. Sometimes I use an EF 85 for portrait work. That's it. I think it matters very little if Sony or Canon or Nikon has a larger lens selection. All the brands have the lenses you need. Yes, RF lenses are pricey, but if you're working, an RF lens is a great investment.
And if you don't want to spend loads of money for the RF offering, have you at least got an alternative? And if you want a 35-150 f2-2.8? Or rather have a 20-70 instead of a 24-105?
Just because the physical interface of the cable seems the same does not mean the inner wiring is. Thats why they sometimes show odd behaviour on different systems.
I chose fujifilm for my first ever camera, got the xt5, guess I just saw it as a cheaper version for what I wanted but I'm happy with my choice for sure 🙃
the canon lenses and bodies i use are rated weather/splash resistant... but i don't shoot in the rain, mist, or heavy snow fall. so, i would say, i haven't had any problems. when i have been caught in the rain with my gear, i immediately dry it off with towels i carry.
I'm a new-ish photographer and love my R6 for portraits, sports, or wildlife. Where it fails, for me, is the subject detection. When using servo AF with tracking it is always trying to hunt for subjects and won't let the focus box "stick" on whatever I initially focused on (if it isn't one of the recognized subjects). This means that I'm always having to switch to a single focus point without tracking, resulting in lost shots and more time spent composing. This is infuriating to the point of making me want to switch. Other brands do better (OM System, Fuji), and I'm curious to try Sony to see if the tracking works like I'd like it to.
@@Pierretlambert It could be due to my beginner's reliance on tracking AF, but I'd like to be able to focus on a particular inanimate object in a landscape or in a street scene while using C-AF and have the camera hold focus while I recompose. Fuji and OM System cameras seem to do better, but my R6 will hunt all over the place no matter the subject detection mode. It also loves to expand the tracking area (even if the smallest focus box is enabled) such that I have no idea where it is focusing, especially with larger apertures. I should really just get better at using S-AF and moving the point around. Thanks for your videos, by the way, I quite enjoy them.
Worst thing about modern UA-cam reviews is that it’s access media…if your comparing “which is better” I wish they would dither and say “whatever one you’re using”
Just bought your preset pack and im very happy with it :) but when installing lightroom wont let me change the exposure and white balance option, does it make a huge difference?
The issue with charging with the USB is due to the battery, not the port. Only the new battery can be USB charged while in the camera. At least that’s my experience. Oh, and you can recycle your camera batteries (not alkaline) at any Best Buy stores or local county recycling centers. Common man, it’s not hard at all.
Canon R3… with NO doubt, best camera on the market… best AF system…. Global shutter is actually OLD technology… all the first CCD imaging sensors had Global shutters… the best thing about Nikon , Sony & Canon pushing the bar forward , is WE all benefit from it… all these cameras are incredible….
I am a Canon user since ages and more than happy with the quality of my R5 and my RF L-Lenses. However I have no idea why Sony can make super quality lenses which are much lighter than Canon lenses. Example is the new 24-70 GM2. Canon has been THE lens company but it seems that Sony is now much better in meeting the requirement of low weight without compromising optical performance. From a body point of view I much more prefer Canon but I am of course used to the Canon usability. In regards to reliability I must say that I never had any quality issue in harsh conditions but on the last expedition in Indonesia the Sony camera of my friend died whereas my Canon R5s survived. But this was a single case and is not meant to be a general statement. I was thinking a while of changing to Sony but this experience made me staying with Canon. I just hope for lighter lenses. Also we do not need always 1.2 for primes. Better having a 1.4 50mm and make it 30% lighter.
Nikon Z and Viltrox lenses 😍😍😍 Could you try a Nikon Z6III (when launch) or Z8? I think the AF it's up to Canon / Sony levels but it's more difficult to set. You need to go deep into menus and play with more settings. Panasonic is other brand I'm curious about. The S5II seems like a great deal.
Sony and Canon are great systems in 2024. Canon always feels like home to me. Everything feels right. In addition, if you want to save money by buying 3rd party lenses on Canon R bodies, you can adapt any lens made in the EF mount (millions of lenses) and it will work flawlessly. That includes Sigma and Tamron.
Canon feels like a modern corporate design morphed into a camera body. It feels nice to hold and the button layout is very sleek. Sony feels minimalistic, and the density makes it "feel" I QUOTE "feel" more premium to hold As someone who likes minimalistic i prefer the feel and aesthetics of the Sony camera
I have a Sony Zv-1 which I've been using for videos mostly and I love it. I'm thinking about adding a Sony A6- A7 since the photos are used in my car magazine which is getting more eyes daily. Plus, I think mirrorless is easier to learn
Just wanna correct some. - R6 can use battery from 5D mark ii and 6D mark i days. (Idk about R5) - 50mm f1.2 GM way cheaper than 50mm f1.2 RF. And some focal length follow suit. 😢
I am having a hard time debating whether or not to get the canon R6 Mark II or to get the Sony A7CII. I shoot some portrait photography but lately I have been shooting photo and video of my 12 year olds basketball team. which one would you say is better for this? I currently have a Canon 5D Mark III. I can't really find any review videos comparing the two cameras. Thank you for your help.
I'm having pretty close to the same debate except mine is go for the Sony a73 which I can find for around $1k local and put my money into lenses and more training or the r6 Mark2 or the a74 so I can have all the cool things everyone is talking about. How much will ten bit color matter especially if I have a cheaper glass...? I also don't want to buy an old ass camera that won't be worth anything in a year or so.
I shot with Cannon for multiple decades from a film A2E to the first digital 10D or D10, don't remember, but like 6 years ago I made the switch to a olympus OM the pro level micro 4/3 , loved it but 2 months ago I switched to a Sony A7riv, and i love it. Way better than the Olympus in ease of use and comfprtable in the hand. I do think the Canon was a bit more comfortable, and the dials used to be nicer. The other negative to the Sony is price of lenses. For the canon I had a Tamron 28-300mm that sold for under $600, and was a great one lens does it all, for the day you can only carry one ( but that was a EF lens, I guess now Canon has a new lens mount so Sony is probably better). Sone E-mount they all seem to be a couple $100 more for the lenses. I went to the Sony for the Megapixels!!!!
Excellent video thank you! I was a Canon video shooter from 2012 to 2023, recently switched to Sony (FX3, 6, 30). Regarding autofocus does anyone know who "#3" in the marketplace is? Thank you!
Good video, there are too many people on youtube who just bash. I am very curious about the lens cover you seem to have on that RF 50 1.8 and cannot find it online anywhere. What is that? Thanks!
When I first tried out the cameras, I found that Sony was much more difficult operate both buttons and menu. With the Canon it was instant, within a few minutes I was ready to shoot.
I love my Sony a7c , it’s perfect in every way for video and I can take excellent pictures. It was just what I needed. I plan on using it for years to come. It pairs perfect with my Sony ZVE 10 lenses fit each other, vice versa
It’s the same you can use sigma lenses with an adapter, same as old EF lenses you can use them with an adapter on mirrorless don’t really understand the pint on this one ?
I am not 100% sure if thats a more recent thing, but there are absolutely 3rd party Canon RF lenses, by the likes of Samyang, Venus and Sirui for example. They also make very good lenses.
im currently using an old 600d canon and wanted to update to the mirroless system,im considerding r10(since i love canon menu and their ergonomic) or the a6400(the best camera budget and sony wellknown cheap 3rd party lens market),i know the canon rf-s lens selection rn is sucks but i have a few pretty good ef-s lens which i could buy an adapter and use it for the r10 but i dont know if its worth it,i mainly do portrait and street photography,maybe almost everything except sport,any advice?(i do love some fuji like xt3,xs10,xt30 mark 2 but damn i just hate how the menu work),the nikon zfc might also be an options too but ive heard the lens selection is also sucks too.
Why would you throw away the batteries when changing the camera? They go with the old camera to the new owner 🤷♂ It also makes sense to upgrade the batteries. It's not as if the R6 has different batteries to the R5 of the same generation.
IMHO, it really doesn't matter. Use what you have. That being said, I have never shot Canon or Nikon mirrorless. I started on Fuji and now shot Sony exclusively. I find pros & cons of Sony, but also all other systems too. I do feel Sony offers greater options and a more flexibility ecosystem. I think all the other mirrorless camera cos. should thank Sony for expanding to technology and leading the way to others who might want to adopt a new system.
The short answer is, both brands produce good images, at least in the flagship models anyhow, eg, the A1, the R5 and R3. Both brands have good glass available - it doesnt matter who makes the glass. Both brands have similar high iso performance per pixel area. I personally found the A1 too small for my hands, but the a1 will be perfect for others. The biggest differentiator is; Sonys 46mm mount vs Canon (and Nikon) 52mm mount. One of my favorite lenses in my Samyang 10mm rectilinear EF mount, adapted to my R5. 10mm is wide, truly wide, and, where it is needed there is no substiure. Straightening a 8mm fisheye gives very soft corners, and, once cropped rectangular, is 10-11mm or wider anyhow. Sonys 46mm will vignette a 10mm rectilinear, and thus, is a deal breaker for me. Sony really needs to update their mount to 52mm. Canons new 10-20mm F4 rectilinear looks to be a winner for UWA enthusiasts, and realestate. Sony or others could not release this type of lens for the Sony 46mm mount - it would vignette at the wide end. All the rest of the arguments & comments are just noise. There is only one real show stopping limitation, and that is the small 46mm mount size.
To me it seems like the camera bodies, are pretty close. Canon does have some features that sony doesnt have. But Sony 3rd party lens support gives them the edge to me, but that wont help sony for too long
First and foremost, I shoot Canon / Nikon / Sony, so I’m no fanboy to any. The problem with the Sony ergonomics has nothing to do with squareness vs roundness. The main issue is the height and depth of the grip. It has gotten better (a bit taller and deeper) on the newer Sony bodies but It still nowhere as full as the grips you would find on Canon / Nikon pro bodies. A weaker grip means more strain on the fingers specially with bigger lenses. Not only that, the other major problem with the Sony bodies is the space between the lens mount and the grip. It’s just too Narrow. Your middle and ring finger are always touching the lens which unless you have tiny hands is not comfortable at all. IMO it’s a major design flaw which Sony still hasn’t addressed. Maybe in the next gen?
Hey Pierre, Thank you for once again a great video. In your opinion Do you think its good to upgrade my a7iii to double a7iv for wedding fotography or just get the a7rV and use the a7iii as my secondary camera?
Ill be doing product and more micro photography and some Video, I was leaning towards the Sony brand .my last camera was a canon 7d2 dlsr so im ready to upgrade
Some of the Canon cameras require PD=power delivery :) Som cables dont support that is my understanding :) USB-C sadly is not USB-C that would be to efficient
Canon has used the same batteries since the 5D came out. The RF use a newer version of the LP-E6, the LP-E6N and since the R5 they use the LP-E6NH. Both the N and the NH have more capacity than the plain LP-E6 but they are all compatible with each other so you do not have to throw away your old batteries. So it is untrue that millions of batteries are thrown in the garbage and you have to make a correction on this.
I’ve been shooting portraits successfully for a few years now. Been using the a7iii with the gmaster lenses and have loved it. However, I have always wanted canon because of their colors. Not sure if it’s worth throwing all my lenses away for!
I shoot on the sony a7iv. I hate that sony have been screwing around with firmware and updates outside of thay sony is fine i wish they had a true pancake lens. Canon to me has a bigger issue, lack of aftermarket lenses and no small camera bodies. I like small bodies. 😊
Goooood Morning! Argh tough debate! Would love to hear your thoughts :)
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I had Canon, too slow to upgrade to mirrorless, so I chose Sony and Sony is the system I recommend to other photographers, there are so many choices of different Cameras and even more choices of E-mount Lenses, I am very happy using Sony Cameras with Sony Lenses, Zeiss Lenses and Voigtländer Lenses.
I've only owned Canon, but shot a bit with all systems. I keep going back to Canon because UI and body design works better for me! :)
One of the best comment I read here. Been watching your videos.
I"m quite happy with my Canon cameras and lenses, but I'll echo what other folks have commented here: It's perfectly normal to be loyal to a particular brand, but my feeling has always been, as long as the camera you're using does the job for you, that's the only thing that matters.
The reason there is loyalty to a brand is because their equipment is reliable and their line of glass is impeccable. that's why there such loyal following with Canon as before with Nikon.
Sony supporting 3rd party lenses: +20 points, Canon not supporting 3rd party lenses: -52 points
Yeah it really sucks with the rf lenses. Ive heard they are opening to 3rd party soon but it really does suck you would need to get an ef 3rd party lens and then get a converter
@@nicks8484 if you are shooting Canon, I really hope they do for your sake! I moved to Sony from Canon a while back due to Canon crippling video functions. Now I find Sony doesn't update their firmware, leaving even flagship camera's with old software that don't get even basic newer features. So I guess we all have to deal with these problems, just in different ways🥲 Love Sony's own and 3rd party lens selection though
@@TheArtist441 yeah i went with a canon r8 for my first camera. I love it so much and really have no issues besides minor things like no IBIS. RF glass is great but goddamn no 3rd party sucks
Sony colour sucks -100
@@mbismbismb in 2015 maybe. Now it’s amazing
Doesn’t really matter nowadays. I went with Sony because of the lens choices but camera bodies now are all really good!
W comment! Somebody who's no a brand whore!
Lens choices ?? Sony or the 3rd parties will never have a 10 or 11mm rectilinear lens for the Sony 46mm mount - this mount is too small.
So... if you want the widest possible choices of lens focal lengths, eg 10mm UWA, you will have to stick with Canons bigger 52mm mount.
This is a very specific focal length needed for 1% of photographers. And a large selection of inexpensive high-quality lenses is needed by almost everyone.
I switched from Canon RF to Sony In March 2023 and no regrets. It was PAINFUL selling all my Canon gear but once it was all gone and I replaced most of my Canon lenses with Sony eMount I was happy. Even kept a few EF Canon lenses such as the Caon EF 135mm f2L and 100L Macro and use with the Sigma MC-11 adapter.
Sony or the 3rd parties will never have a 10 or 11mm rectilinear lens for the Sony 46mm mount - this mount is too small.
So... if you want the widest possible choices of lens focal lengths, eg 10mm UWA, you will have to stick with Canons bigger 52mm mount.
@@nordic5490 how many times are you going to say this? Most people don't need this. I will never understand why some folks think because they need something everyone does...
Since the launch of A7iii in 2018 and the introduction of third-party zoom lenses like Tamron 28-75, Sony has gradually become a reliable brand for working professionals in both stills and video. However, it has also become less fun to use (e.g. mediocre screen, handling, IBIS), less value-friendly (e.g. a7IV compared to a7III, expensive flagship A1 without many firmware updates), and less well-rounded (more and more product lines).
I started out with Sony mirrorless in early 2013 with my photography journey. Went to Nikon for the old school Nikon lenses and ergonomics, but left Nikon when their mirrorless AF and features lagged behind the rest. I went to Canon now with R6 and RF lenses and I'm incredibly happy. Why not Sony? I don't need a million lenses, especially third party. I prefer first party lenses for assured QC and reliability and performance. The RF35 and RFR70-200 are more than good enough for me, and for the price they are fair and I don't see a good cheap 35mm option for Sony. The RF35 is incredibly sharp, has amazing IBIS, is compact and cheap. Also, Canon has better IBIS, ergonomics, low light performance on R6, and repair customer service. Colors start to shift and contrast is lost on high ISO for A7 IV, but R6 looks incredibly well in really high ISO for hobby purposes. The Sony A7 IV would be my second choice, but I am happy with the R6 and RF lenses.
Fuji? The build quality was terrible with the XS10 and XT30 I had and the AF is worse that point and shoots from 15 years ago. They felt like toys
The best camera is the one you have in your hands. :) We live in a time where any of the major brands produce stellar equipment. I've shot Canon, Nikon, and I'm on Sony now. All three have been great and all three have had minor issues. It comes down to your shooting style and needs IMO. Of the three brands I still love the color of Nikon over Canon/Sony. That being said, some post work does the trick. Ergonomics, Canon or Nikon over Sony for me. The A1 is almost there but not nearly as comfortable as a Nikon/Canon. When it comes to tracking/speed/image capture... the A1 has been stellar and leaps and bounds over the previous brands/models I've owned.
Nice video... I agree with many of your points. Keep up the great work. :)
thanks!! Yes I join you on this... those 3 brands are just "boring" now - everything works great hahah
In my opinion it depends on what you're doing with your camera. I tried both, Sony and Canon and came back to Canon because the 1DX and now the R3 felt much better for me. I'm usually doing Sportsphotography. I love the autofocus which is controlled by my eye and that helps me so much with taking pictures of sports and events.
What camera would you recommend if someone is looking mainly to shoot photos of people and just scenery ?
@@NationalDeputy Canon R8 is a superb option.
so true I use my canons (10000D and R8) to plan photoshoots, so finding a location, and picking a time and angle. and then take my compositions on my Konica Autoflex TC (a 35mm or Analog camera). the R8 is great flow lightght form my experience.
Brands are often about feelings. I had a 5dsr who was considered a studiocamera, but I shot everything with it. Out in the Snow -20 degrees, nights, streets..portraits. It was good for a lot of things. Thats why I went from sony a7r IV to canon r5 and their most known zooms. Leaving two a7rIVS and a lot of primes. The R5 is good, but I noticed it struggled with focus in low light. Shooting the aurora I often had to go to manual. Not an issue with sony at all. Canon are expencive, bulky and big and heavy to drag around in the wild. The Sony feels better in the hand. I like the canon but I waited for ages for them to come out with new lenses..primes..and eventually I gave up and bought into two A7rVs instead, starting to build up with primes and zooms. Its not recommended switching so much as its expencive. But now I have found the right gear for me, finally satisfied. All in all, the brand does not matter that much, both Canon and Sony are good. You just have to find out what is best for you.
I use Canon at work for GCSE and A Level photography as students can easily change settings and understand what happens. At how I now only use Sony (was Fuji all the way until my daughter got the A6400) and love how quick the focus is and how much you can individualise the camera. I enjoy the Sony system and now have the RX100iii and A7C. Love your work and thank you for your well thought out content (I share lots of your work with my classes during the academic year). From Rural Lincolnshire UK
What canon did u use?
Thank you
At this time... if anyone still arguing which is better.. is just clueless and gear folks more than actual photographer or someone who love taking photos. Any brand makes good camera now or at least gear that can produce picture.. it is up to the user whether they know how to use a camera or which is more comfortable brand for them if that matters. Also to add... now post process is a big part of whether the final photo is nice or amazing. If you cant or not good at that.. doesnt matter Canon or sony or any brand.. photo will just be alright but not good/great.
i went to some photo competition, i used canon eos r with 50mm 1.2 ... and the winner is some guy with canon 550D with takumar lens, there was LEICA M9, Nikon 850D, Sony A9, Fujifilm GFX 50, even some guy bring the Phase One ... my god its a WAR !! ... But in the end, the experience, framing, timing, is the key.
Let’s face it. Both systems are incredible. Nikon, too. Even Fuji is very impressive if you don’t need FF.
For me it comes down to lens choices, prices and investments. I’ve invested in Sony lenses and, therefore, don’t change now.
Go with whatever camera system feels good for you and is affordable for you.
You cannot go “wrong“ these days.
The cameras now are better than the cameras we had ten years ago in almost every aspect.
My advice: Get a solid body, learn how to use it properly and then invest in lenses rather than camera bodies. Much more value over time. And you will be able to take full advantage of your camera. Lastly, get out there and shoot!
Great insight!
Level up your Skill, before your gears... in the end of the day.. final output and editing is the important
I really like the Sony system and that’s after using Nikon DSLRs professionally for many years until the advent of mirrorless. I saw how great this new technology was and saw that Sony was the clear leader so went all in on Sony selling off the Nikon equipment. Fast forward a few years and I am 100% satisfied with the Sony platform. I can use best in class optics from Sony directly or choose other great lenses from Zeiss, Voigtlander, Sigma, Tamron, Samyang, etc.. I like the ergonomics, performance and ultimately the most important aspect to me is image quality and dynamic range which Sony sensors have and are rated amongst the top sensors in the world. I like the small compact size and Sony has been the most reliable system I’ve used in terms of durability with very few repairs over the years. I also really like Sony Pro Support and been happy with every interaction I’ve had with them. I often envy certain aspects of other brands but as you said it ultimately comes down to using your brain and creativity to capture amazing photos and all cameras coming out these days are great tool. Thanks for the insights, I’ve been wondering what your thoughts were regarding the Canon since you recently received it. Always enjoy your enthusiasm and videos, keep up the great work!
well nikon are using sony sensors...even back from days of d3, d750 or such...gues where that dynamic range came from, sony sensor ofc :)
Golden rule was for years:
-canon for colors, but a bit softer (own sensors)
-nikon for sharpness and dynamic range (sony sensors)
Remember year when first A7 came out..pro guys laughed so much (its a toy, small lens, bla bla) but sony destroying it with dynamic range, low iso etc...and look 10 years later everyone copy them!
Nikons Z mount is technically not completely closed off to third party lenses, but the third party options for Z mount is extremely limited, and you pay a premium vs the E-mount for the same lens. What I don't like about the E-mount is the lack of any lenses wider than 16mm that takes filters. Nikon and Canon have a 14mm that takes filters, but I feel the E-mount is just too small to build such a lens.
I used a1 and R3,for kingfisher diving, almost every day.Then I selected a1,and sold R3. And I bought R6markⅡ, for taking pictures of night airplane.
I think generally Canon camera is good,But for amateur photographer like me,Sony camera's compactness is very important.
I am in Hawaii for travel, I selected a6700 and R6markⅡ.But I use only a6700.
I probably get zv-e1,instead of R6markⅡ. And a1 is the best camera for me.
Just for the lenses alone Canon is out of the question.
I do enjoy Fujifilm and Panasonic more than Sony, though.
Hi Pierre, Sony and Canon are very good and solid Cameras with great Optics. I haven't had a Sony Camera but i have had a Canon Camera and have been happy with it. I shoot with Nikon but i do appreciated Canon and Sony photographers, they all speak very highly of both brands. I do agree with the Screen of Canon being more crispier. Thanks Pierre for this fun topic. 😃
I switched from Nikon mirrorless to Sony and picked up the Sony a7riv and was blown away by the images it took and love the 3rd party len options. But I second-guessed myself so I rented the Canon R5 and the 85 mm f1.2 RF lens and even though it took beautiful photos I really like the menu for the Sony and the natural colors Sony produced. I like how the feel and size of the Sony cameras even though I have size 4 XL hands I just preferred the Sony. But I wish Sony would produce an 85 mm f1.2 like the Canon lens. That is a remarkable lens. But since I upgraded to the a7rv the evf is beautiful and the flip out screen is perfect. And once you use the a7rv and the 135mm GM for portraits you will be a believer. I am not brand loyal either so whatever gets the job done the best and the easiest is what I prefer and Sony is doing it for me.
I like Canon ergonomics but that won't matter when lenses are too expensive, so I traded my Canon RP for Sony A7IV and now I have full set of f2.8 lenses + couple 1.4 fast primes for less than the price of just one Canon RF 2.8 lens.
Hey Pierre, I have a question about a piece of gear you use. I really like your Hot Shoe Cover on your A1 it looks cool. It has the Sony Alpha Logo on it. I was wondering how you got it.
I have the same question....
I've used Nikon and Canon for years and now I am in Sony camp. Sad to say but there is no more camera wars. In mirrorless world Sony is years ahead generally as system.
Smaller and lighter lenses, beautiful color rendition and DR, sensor tech, third party lens, best video codec, best camera body customization in the market... It is game over.
Years ahead is totally wrong
@@lesson.3012 no it's not. Sony is started with milc technology development couple of years before Canon and Nikon. At the same time Sony is in technology development company with greatest potential so the conclusion can be made very simply.
@@DuskoJovicSony lead the way in mirrorless for a while sure, but these days there’s little difference in bodies and tech. The lens situation is a different story.
The short answer is, both brands produce good images, at least in the flagship models anyhow, eg, the A1, the R5 and R3.
Both brands have good glass available - it doesnt matter who makes the glass.
Both brands have similar high iso performance per pixel area.
I personally found the A1 too small for my hands, but the a1 will be perfect for others.
The biggest differentiator is; Sonys 46mm mount vs Canon (and Nikon) 52mm mount.
One of my favorite lenses in my Samyang 10mm rectilinear EF mount, adapted to my R5. 10mm is wide, truly wide, and, where it is needed there is no substiure. Straightening a 8mm fisheye gives very soft corners, and, once cropped rectangular, is 10-11mm or wider anyhow.
Sonys 46mm will vignette a 10mm rectilinear, and thus, is a deal breaker for me. Sony really needs to update their mount to 52mm.
Canons new 10-20mm F4 rectilinear looks to be a winner for UWA enthusiasts, and realestate. Sony or others could not release this type of lens for the Sony 46mm mount - it would vignette at the wide end.
All the rest of the arguments & comments are just noise. There is only one real show stopping limitation, and that is the small 46mm mount size.
@@nordic5490 ye ye... We've been hearing the same story for years from some "experts" that Sony can't make f1.2 lenses because the mount is too small for a full-frame mirrorless system. Now, on the same mount, we have the smallest, fastest, lightest, and optically best 50mm f1.2 lens. Let's ignore these stories about what can or can't be done because we don't have enough of technical knowledge for that. We photographers should use this equipment and share our experiences, leaving the technicals and predictions job to the engineers. It's truly incredible that anyone could even think that the financially, technologically, and research-wise most powerful company in the world would let itself be limited by a mount that doesn't allow them to create everything they want in the technology we have now.
Canon RF is currently worst system on the FF market. First, they have worst sensor of all FF brands. Second, they have worst lens choice on the market... You tellin me about 10-40 and 8mm fisheye and your system dont have any of f1.4 primes which are pro standars for years.
And third... They forcingly keep trapped all their users in a closed system for any other third party lens. Things cant be worser. But hey if you are fine to be in system like that I am finewith that to. :)
The test was very detailed and useful. And that underwater pic at 19:20 has an otherworldly beauty that left me speechless.
The glass!! when cannon start to allow third party lenses again I might consider it, before that Sony ftw
I just switched to Nikon from Canon. Didn’t switch added a Nikon Z6ii to my EOS R . For the price R6ii I bought the z6 with the 28-75
The age old question
I am struggeling myself. I love my Canon R6. But I think Canon needs to size down in size and weight with the lenses and bodies. This is the biggest factor why I am tempted to switch. And lens choice of course.
On the other side, the body feel, menu style/design are still better for my taste. Image quality is great with both.
Take a look at the Canon R8 for weight loss.
I want to start with a beginner camera but still undecided if I should go Sony or canon. I see a lot of people complaining about lack of firmware updates for Sony’s cameras. Is this true and is it a deal breaker for any of you?
Canon definitely has at present the best cameras for beginners. Just see which camera suits better your tasks. Canon R8 is the best budget full frame camera in the world now. If you want an apsc camera, then Canon R7, R10 or even R50 are all superb and far exceed all the rivals from other brands.
@@ritammelgunovAwesome. Thank you for the recommendations! Appreciate it. Will do my research on these.
I wonder if you've ever tried a lumix system...I've personally switched from sony to a new full frame lumix recently and i have to say the ergonomics/buttons/customisability feels so much better to me and is worth the minor differences in image quality for me.
From the price point. Not a bad choice; you can do whatever with every camera brand you have!
How is the autofocus of Panasonic s5iix ? Is it good for wedding?
@@saroshchothia5021 its amazing! S5 II is way better all you need, on par with sony for my needs
I've been using the Nikon D3200 for almost a decade and in 2023, still don't have any problem with the image quality. but Nikon doesn't care about budget lenses for amateurs and hobby photographers and also I need to Invest in a system to support my vlogging and astrophotography activities at a good level for the price. Sony is amazing in these roles but still a little expensive for me, but Canon is not compatible with third-party optics. so I guess Sony is a reasonable choice for me, because I need to buy just 2 bodies and optics are more important when it comes to price.
Thank you for these details bro! ♥
I really like your videos. Bought A7R III few weeks ago and i am glad that i choose it over canon because i would have to empty all my budget on lenses at hte moment i have kit lens from sony and tamron 28-75 g2 and im looking ofrward to take many pics with it.
I’ve been shooting film since the 70’s. The only film cameras I have left are Canon and Olympus. I started my digital photography with Canon, then Fuji and Olympus and now I’ve settled on Sony. I still have my Olympus E-M1 mkii, which I just love and will probably never get rid of because it fits my hand really well and the image quality is very good. Same with the Sony A7 series. Sony fits my hand very well and is comfortable to carry. All of the digital cameras I have owned have very good image quality and I’d shoot any of them again. It’s not the camera, it’s the operator.
I couldn’t choose, so I’m heavily invested in both brands lol but if i had to choose one. Canon R5 for me!
Its canon for me simply because sony and nikon dont have good apsc options for wildlife. R7 is best option for me. a fuji would also be good
Fantastic video Pierre, full of sensible information as usual, Nice to see un-biased opinion as not many creators like to be as creative as you. Thank you.
Over 3 minutes in and we still haven’t gotten to the point…
After seeing so many photos on instagram from Sony users, I wish I had invested in Sony instead of canon.. I’m about $3,000-$4,000 invested in Canon already.
I wanna buy Canon 700D
Should I buy it?
How It's quality with 55mm prime lens.
Plz answer me.
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I am looking to buy a camera. Is a Sony A7iii good for filming and photography for £800
Finally a race for performance after a decade of stalemate competition between Canon and Nikon. Both competitors, Canon and Sony, now making great gear but as a student and practitioner of marketing strategy one may expect one of these two to emerge dominant in the war for market share. Historically the winner emerges with twice the share of #2 and number two to have twice that of #3. Time will tell if this academic model proves true.
I shoot Sony not because of better cameras but because of the huge savings from third party glass and my lenses are Sigma, Tamron and Sony G-Master but mostly Sigma and Tamron.
The debate over the color science is silly as many photographers say it is. Because even as you said those colors will change with any kind of work that you do in post. Thanks for making this video.
I'm thinking about going from Canon RF (and EF) to Sony due to all the issues and stuff thats happening with the latest Canon camera's. Stuff like overheating, video crop, software bugs etc. But the only thing being a barrier for me is how sony doesn't have a fully articulating screen and canon body's feeling better in my hand.
"sony doesn't have a fully articulating screen"?? This is misinformation! Many Sony bodies have fully articulating screens! Currently I own A7R5 (the best, 4D articulating screen), Sony FX30 (fully articulating screen) and Sony A7C (fully articulating screen).
@@krishnastock I never said all of Sony doesnt have it. but not the ones in the same pricecategory as most canon body's. There are indeed some Sony's which have fully articulating screens, for instance the ones you mentioned and the most recent ones in the "vlogging" category such as the ZV-e10
Have you personally had these issues or are you just getting scared by all the click bait videos on youtube? You do realize more youtube channels are sponsored by Sony? Hence the Sony bias? I have no issues with my R6.
@@ThisIsDavesGarage I didn't had this myself with my EOS RP. And after this post 2 months ago, I looked up some other videos and they mentioned the overheating and videocrop on some sony's too. Sorry if it sounded too much as sony bias, Its sometimes kinda difficult to notice which videos are sponsored-bias and which are true opinions/specifications.
The short answer is, both brands produce good images, at least in the flagship models anyhow, eg, the A1, the R5 and R3.
Both brands have good glass available - it doesnt matter who makes the glass.
Both brands have similar high iso performance per pixel area.
I personally found the A1 too small for my hands, but the a1 will be perfect for others.
The biggest differentiator is; Sonys 46mm mount vs Canon (and Nikon) 52mm mount.
One of my favorite lenses in my Samyang 10mm rectilinear EF mount, adapted to my R5. 10mm is wide, truly wide, and, where it is needed there is no substiure. Straightening a 8mm fisheye gives very soft corners, and, once cropped rectangular, is 10-11mm or wider anyhow.
Sonys 46mm will vignette a 10mm rectilinear, and thus, is a deal breaker for me. Sony really needs to update their mount to 52mm.
Canons new 10-20mm F4 rectilinear looks to be a winner for UWA enthusiasts, and realestate. Sony or others could not release this type of lens for the Sony 46mm mount - it would vignette at the wide end.
All the rest of the arguments & comments are just noise. There is only one real show stopping limitation, and that is the small 46mm mount size.
Btw, can you take a selfie still or vlog, whilst composing your self with a Sony ? No. The screen doesnt fold around like Canons. 2nd deal breaker for me.
If you already have a Sony or Canon system and are still here watching to decide whether to switch to either then your "Focus" is in the wrong place. Or shall I say you are spending too much time studying the capabilities of the cameras rather than learning how to shoot well! The tools are only as good as the user. Don't just blame your tools! I am using Sony and when my shots did not come out well, I ask myself what I did wrong and not why the camera is not producing good shots!
Nice
Needed that tbh
Been using the R6 for the last year and a wedding photographer and film maker and it's the first camera I've felt like I never need to upgrade for any reason. The video quality is incredible. if you need more dynamic range then I don't know what you are doing wrong. It grades beautifully and runs super smooth on my MacBook. The low light capabilities are ridiculously good. 12800 iso is usable, do you need that? Almost never but it's nice to have. And then the colours... Id say Sony is good but canon is just way better than anything else. Lenses are amazing. you can find soooooo many second hand options and you can adapt anything. the only thing I would upgrade for is better quality 120p, that's it😂If you can't get good result with either of these camera brands its not the camera, its you.
Canon is better , that's true but the problem is lens selection, as a system they are far behind Sony, without opening their mount to third party then will never win over Sony.
@@neethuandthomasphotography Agreed but they still have the Ef conversation. I have had no noticeable difference in performance. I’ve used sigma glass, older EF L-series lenses(even some from the 90s), vintages lenses(you can convert any vintage lens to ef), tamron, Carl Zeiss lenses.😂 The list is endless with the EF converter, Waaaaaay more lenses than the E mount. Even so most people are going to stick to the usual 24-70, 70-200, 15-35 and a few primes like a 24, 35, 50 and an 85(let’s also not forget how cheap and insanely good canon primes can be). Is there really more that you need then that?
Iam 17 and i cannot afford a camera
I just feel awesome watching tis channel
BUT i will become a pro film maker in future
Keep at it! You're SO young
I've never understodd the argument about lens selection. How many lenses does a working photographer use? I shot events and I use two lenses, an RF 28-70 and an EF 70-200. Sometimes I use an EF 85 for portrait work. That's it. I think it matters very little if Sony or Canon or Nikon has a larger lens selection. All the brands have the lenses you need. Yes, RF lenses are pricey, but if you're working, an RF lens is a great investment.
And if you don't want to spend loads of money for the RF offering, have you at least got an alternative?
And if you want a 35-150 f2-2.8?
Or rather have a 20-70 instead of a 24-105?
Just because the physical interface of the cable seems the same does not mean the inner wiring is. Thats why they sometimes show odd behaviour on different systems.
I chose fujifilm for my first ever camera, got the xt5, guess I just saw it as a cheaper version for what I wanted but I'm happy with my choice for sure 🙃
TOO MUCH TALKING NO POINT
the canon lenses and bodies i use are rated weather/splash resistant... but i don't shoot in the rain, mist, or heavy snow fall. so, i would say, i haven't had any problems. when i have been caught in the rain with my gear, i immediately dry it off with towels i carry.
I'm a new-ish photographer and love my R6 for portraits, sports, or wildlife. Where it fails, for me, is the subject detection. When using servo AF with tracking it is always trying to hunt for subjects and won't let the focus box "stick" on whatever I initially focused on (if it isn't one of the recognized subjects). This means that I'm always having to switch to a single focus point without tracking, resulting in lost shots and more time spent composing.
This is infuriating to the point of making me want to switch. Other brands do better (OM System, Fuji), and I'm curious to try Sony to see if the tracking works like I'd like it to.
For me it sticks well on Sony but what conditions do you usually lose the tracking in?
@@Pierretlambert It could be due to my beginner's reliance on tracking AF, but I'd like to be able to focus on a particular inanimate object in a landscape or in a street scene while using C-AF and have the camera hold focus while I recompose. Fuji and OM System cameras seem to do better, but my R6 will hunt all over the place no matter the subject detection mode. It also loves to expand the tracking area (even if the smallest focus box is enabled) such that I have no idea where it is focusing, especially with larger apertures.
I should really just get better at using S-AF and moving the point around. Thanks for your videos, by the way, I quite enjoy them.
Worst thing about modern UA-cam reviews is that it’s access media…if your comparing “which is better” I wish they would dither and say “whatever one you’re using”
Just bought your preset pack and im very happy with it :) but when installing lightroom wont let me change the exposure and white balance option, does it make a huge difference?
The issue with charging with the USB is due to the battery, not the port. Only the new battery can be USB charged while in the camera. At least that’s my experience. Oh, and you can recycle your camera batteries (not alkaline) at any Best Buy stores or local county recycling centers. Common man, it’s not hard at all.
Where can I buy the skin/lens cap for the RF 50 1.8 shown in the video?
I second that question!
USB C is crazy not all USB C ports and cables work the same. Gotta make sure you have the right cable for what your port can do
Canon R3… with NO doubt, best camera on the market… best AF system…. Global shutter is actually OLD technology… all the first CCD imaging sensors had Global shutters… the best thing about Nikon , Sony & Canon pushing the bar forward , is WE all benefit from it… all these cameras are incredible….
I am a Canon user since ages and more than happy with the quality of my R5 and my RF L-Lenses. However I have no idea why Sony can make super quality lenses which are much lighter than Canon lenses. Example is the new 24-70 GM2. Canon has been THE lens company but it seems that Sony is now much better in meeting the requirement of low weight without compromising optical performance. From a body point of view I much more prefer Canon but I am of course used to the Canon usability. In regards to reliability I must say that I never had any quality issue in harsh conditions but on the last expedition in Indonesia the Sony camera of my friend died whereas my Canon R5s survived. But this was a single case and is not meant to be a general statement. I was thinking a while of changing to Sony but this experience made me staying with Canon. I just hope for lighter lenses. Also we do not need always 1.2 for primes. Better having a 1.4 50mm and make it 30% lighter.
Nikon Z and Viltrox lenses 😍😍😍
Could you try a Nikon Z6III (when launch) or Z8? I think the AF it's up to Canon / Sony levels but it's more difficult to set. You need to go deep into menus and play with more settings.
Panasonic is other brand I'm curious about. The S5II seems like a great deal.
Lenses with Aperture rings, look so damn good.
Sony and Canon are great systems in 2024. Canon always feels like home to me. Everything feels right. In addition, if you want to save money by buying 3rd party lenses on Canon R bodies, you can adapt any lens made in the EF mount (millions of lenses) and it will work flawlessly. That includes Sigma and Tamron.
Canon feels like a modern corporate design morphed into a camera body. It feels nice to hold and the button layout is very sleek.
Sony feels minimalistic, and the density makes it "feel" I QUOTE "feel" more premium to hold
As someone who likes minimalistic i prefer the feel and aesthetics of the Sony camera
I have a Sony Zv-1 which I've been using for videos mostly and I love it. I'm thinking about adding a Sony A6- A7 since the photos are used in my car magazine which is getting more eyes daily. Plus, I think mirrorless is easier to learn
Just wanna correct some.
- R6 can use battery from 5D mark ii and 6D mark i days. (Idk about R5)
- 50mm f1.2 GM way cheaper than 50mm f1.2 RF. And some focal length follow suit. 😢
I went to Leica M because it brings back joy of photography that canon/sony is lacking. I still keep canon for video purposes though.
What about canon eos 6d mark ii do you recommend this camera for a beginner
I am having a hard time debating whether or not to get the canon R6 Mark II or to get the Sony A7CII. I shoot some portrait photography but lately I have been shooting photo and video of my 12 year olds basketball team. which one would you say is better for this? I currently have a Canon 5D Mark III. I can't really find any review videos comparing the two cameras. Thank you for your help.
I'm having pretty close to the same debate except mine is go for the Sony a73 which I can find for around $1k local and put my money into lenses and more training or the r6 Mark2 or the a74 so I can have all the cool things everyone is talking about. How much will ten bit color matter especially if I have a cheaper glass...? I also don't want to buy an old ass camera that won't be worth anything in a year or so.
I shot with Cannon for multiple decades from a film A2E to the first digital 10D or D10, don't remember, but like 6 years ago I made the switch to a olympus OM the pro level micro 4/3 , loved it but 2 months ago I switched to a Sony A7riv, and i love it. Way better than the Olympus in ease of use and comfprtable in the hand. I do think the Canon was a bit more comfortable, and the dials used to be nicer. The other negative to the Sony is price of lenses. For the canon I had a Tamron 28-300mm that sold for under $600, and was a great one lens does it all, for the day you can only carry one ( but that was a EF lens, I guess now Canon has a new lens mount so Sony is probably better). Sone E-mount they all seem to be a couple $100 more for the lenses. I went to the Sony for the Megapixels!!!!
Excellent video thank you! I was a Canon video shooter from 2012 to 2023, recently switched to Sony (FX3, 6, 30). Regarding autofocus does anyone know who "#3" in the marketplace is? Thank you!
Nice Video, thank you! I am a big fan of the sony feeling, my sony alpha 7c with my 3 tamron Lenses is the best and cheapest combination!!
Totally agree!
Thanks Pierre. Exactly what I needed at this moment.
Glad it helped!
With thing from the a6300 to the FX9 and latest Sony models works fantastic
Good video, there are too many people on youtube who just bash.
I am very curious about the lens cover you seem to have on that RF 50 1.8 and cannot find it online anywhere. What is that? Thanks!
When I first tried out the cameras, I found that Sony was much more difficult operate both buttons and menu. With the Canon it was instant, within a few minutes I was ready to shoot.
Same, I am a Canon shooter but one day at Best Buy I decided to give Sony a try and I couldn't understand the ergonomics or Menu System.
I use a Nikon D5100
I love my Sony a7c , it’s perfect in every way for video and I can take excellent pictures. It was just what I needed. I plan on using it for years to come. It pairs perfect with my Sony ZVE 10 lenses fit each other, vice versa
It’s the same you can use sigma lenses with an adapter, same as old EF lenses you can use them with an adapter on mirrorless don’t really understand the pint on this one ?
Is there a review of the banana on the channel somewhere? How is the chromatic aberration? Are the images tinted at all?
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I am not 100% sure if thats a more recent thing, but there are absolutely 3rd party Canon RF lenses, by the likes of Samyang, Venus and Sirui for example. They also make very good lenses.
im currently using an old 600d canon and wanted to update to the mirroless system,im considerding r10(since i love canon menu and their ergonomic) or the a6400(the best camera budget and sony wellknown cheap 3rd party lens market),i know the canon rf-s lens selection rn is sucks but i have a few pretty good ef-s lens which i could buy an adapter and use it for the r10 but i dont know if its worth it,i mainly do portrait and street photography,maybe almost everything except sport,any advice?(i do love some fuji like xt3,xs10,xt30 mark 2 but damn i just hate how the menu work),the nikon zfc might also be an options too but ive heard the lens selection is also sucks too.
Bro took 21 minutes to tell you not a single thing.
Why would you throw away the batteries when changing the camera? They go with the old camera to the new owner 🤷♂
It also makes sense to upgrade the batteries. It's not as if the R6 has different batteries to the R5 of the same generation.
Z6 II FOR EVER
IMHO, it really doesn't matter. Use what you have. That being said, I have never shot Canon or Nikon mirrorless. I started on Fuji and now shot Sony exclusively. I find pros & cons of Sony, but also all other systems too. I do feel Sony offers greater options and a more flexibility ecosystem. I think all the other mirrorless camera cos. should thank Sony for expanding to technology and leading the way to others who might want to adopt a new system.
The short answer is, both brands produce good images, at least in the flagship models anyhow, eg, the A1, the R5 and R3.
Both brands have good glass available - it doesnt matter who makes the glass.
Both brands have similar high iso performance per pixel area.
I personally found the A1 too small for my hands, but the a1 will be perfect for others.
The biggest differentiator is; Sonys 46mm mount vs Canon (and Nikon) 52mm mount.
One of my favorite lenses in my Samyang 10mm rectilinear EF mount, adapted to my R5. 10mm is wide, truly wide, and, where it is needed there is no substiure. Straightening a 8mm fisheye gives very soft corners, and, once cropped rectangular, is 10-11mm or wider anyhow.
Sonys 46mm will vignette a 10mm rectilinear, and thus, is a deal breaker for me. Sony really needs to update their mount to 52mm.
Canons new 10-20mm F4 rectilinear looks to be a winner for UWA enthusiasts, and realestate. Sony or others could not release this type of lens for the Sony 46mm mount - it would vignette at the wide end.
All the rest of the arguments & comments are just noise. There is only one real show stopping limitation, and that is the small 46mm mount size.
Also I use sigma on my mirrorless canon too, with an adapter you can use any lenses tbh. I got a free adapter when I upgraded my canon.
Should I get asony a7iii or the EOS R in 2024?
To me it seems like the camera bodies, are pretty close. Canon does have some features that sony doesnt have. But Sony 3rd party lens support gives them the edge to me, but that wont help sony for too long
Sony A7iii and i love it
First and foremost, I shoot Canon / Nikon / Sony, so I’m no fanboy to any.
The problem with the Sony ergonomics has nothing to do with squareness vs roundness.
The main issue is the height and depth of the grip. It has gotten better (a bit taller and deeper) on the newer Sony bodies but It still nowhere as full as the grips you would find on Canon / Nikon pro bodies.
A weaker grip means more strain on the fingers specially with bigger lenses.
Not only that, the other major problem with the Sony bodies is the space between the lens mount and the grip.
It’s just too Narrow. Your middle and ring finger are always touching the lens which unless you have tiny hands is not comfortable at all.
IMO it’s a major design flaw which Sony still hasn’t addressed. Maybe in the next gen?
Hey Pierre, Thank you for once again a great video. In your opinion Do you think its good to upgrade my a7iii to double a7iv for wedding fotography or just get the a7rV and use the a7iii as my secondary camera?
definitely get an a7rv and keep a7iii
yeap +1 on this. or wait 6 months and we'll probably see another one come ... they're being baked every few months I feel...
What is the 50mm lens with the red hood on your table?!
Ill be doing product and more micro photography and some Video, I was leaning towards the Sony brand .my last camera was a canon 7d2 dlsr so im ready to upgrade
Some of the Canon cameras require PD=power delivery :) Som cables dont support that is my understanding :) USB-C sadly is not USB-C that would be to efficient
Canon has used the same batteries since the 5D came out. The RF use a newer version of the LP-E6, the LP-E6N and since the R5 they use the LP-E6NH. Both the N and the NH have more capacity than the plain LP-E6 but they are all compatible with each other so you do not have to throw away your old batteries. So it is untrue that millions of batteries are thrown in the garbage and you have to make a correction on this.
I’ve been shooting portraits successfully for a few years now. Been using the a7iii with the gmaster lenses and have loved it. However, I have always wanted canon because of their colors. Not sure if it’s worth throwing all my lenses away for!
should I buy a a73 today? I am only hesitant because of no 10 bit color. Does it really matter?
Have you made a video where you compair similar models in Canon vs Sony example in Full Frame Camera
What are those red circular things dangling from the underside of his camera bodies? Seen that in a few of his videos.
I shoot on the sony a7iv. I hate that sony have been screwing around with firmware and updates outside of thay sony is fine i wish they had a true pancake lens. Canon to me has a bigger issue, lack of aftermarket lenses and no small camera bodies. I like small bodies. 😊
yeah shame on them for the firmwares update! I'm constantly telling them but the HQ is having a hard time doing anything about it