Barbie, Oppenheimer, and Unfair Criticism
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When Ken said "When I found out that the patriarchy wasn't about horses, I lost interest", he was so real for that
real. i want that tattooed
I love that about him. Bless him, he just wants some change. And horses. And he has zero clue.
@@sealseallySame here tbh
No horses, No patriarchy.
Ken just wanted to be a horse girl
i went into the barbenheimer double feature being like “oh i’ll get depressed by oppy and then barbie will cheer me up!” and instead i got my shit rocked by both
I’d recommend watching Barbie first since it is still a happier movie.
I only learned people went into barbenheimer with a strategy bc of some random ass video going around of someone interviewing kit connor about if he was going to barbenheimer bc he said sumn like "yeah I'm gonna watch Oppenheimer first and then Barbie around the end of the day so I'm not as depressed"
honestly I just thought people were gonna barbenheimer literally.
“boys are portrayed as being stupid!!” ken read like three books in an afternoon and overthrew his government. i don’t think that’s stupid person behaviour.
And even if that's in reference to the Kendom...I mean, original Barbieland doesn't fair a lot better, they're kinda *supposed* to be exaggerated!
@@damienearl8302yeah, wasn’t the whole point to show that dolls were just taking on superficial ideas? And then in the end, they learned that things aren’t so simple?
Barbieland is toys and yes, one kid controlling a doll can tear the place to pieces in an afternoon.
tbh it rlly captures the chaotic nature of guys 😂
the line “mothers stand still so their daughters can look back and see how far they’ve come” literally had me sobbing
I didn’t expect to cry so much at the end of that movie 😭😭😭😭
both me and my mom cried abt that scene, it was so relateable to both of us, Im crying now thinking abt it
I was holding back tears when Ruth and Barbie were in the portal
I watched barbie in the theater THREE TIMES not once did I not cry. Literally sobbing the minute Billie's song comes on.
I went to see the Barbie movie with a friend last week and I had the unfortunate experience of sitting next to a teenage boy who was there with his girlfriend and the entire time he refused to even look at the screen, was on his phone listening to his frankly terrible taste in music at full volume, fell asleep halfway through and then towards the end made these deep dramatic sighs like he was an impatient toddler waiting to go home. After the movie he had the NERVE to tell his girlfriend (who was actually enjoying herself and looked so disappointed every time she made a glance at him) that the movie was "stupid and pointless"
.....BRO! how tf would you even know?!?!?! YOU DIDN'T WATCH IT!!! Based on the look on her face after he said that I'm almost 100% certain she dumped him later that day
Edit: for those asking why I didn't try to get him kicked out 1. I am an overall anxious person who doesn't like conflict and was hoping somebody else would intervene...nobody did. 2. It was an imax surround sound theater so even though his music was playing loud it was almost completely drowned out by the time the movie started, it was only during the quiet parts of the movie you could really hear it throughout the theater and keep in mind I was right next to him so me and his gf were the ones who could hear it the most. Still doesn't excuse him listening to music and being on his phone though.
Edit 2: My friend also just mentioned to me that he heard during the final scene of the movie someone saying "are they playing two songs at the same time?"
But atleast he went inside to company his gf even tho he have his opinion too so maybe he agree coz he love her but at the same time he is not the type of person who love Barbie movie
@@hopegaming5710Um, ok
@@hopegaming5710no...just no
@@hopegaming5710honestly, if you're going to go to an activity just to complain and belittle those around you, then don't go.
@@hopegaming5710 Listening to music in a CINEMA, just because you don't want to watch a movie is disrespectful. I've seen a few movies in the cinema in my time that I didn't want to watch, but I did so respectfully and without complaint because it is distracting to the people who are actually enjoying it. I hope she dumped his ass right after, who cares if he is not the type of person to like a Barbie movie, who does that??
misogynistic men hate to see themselves being treated the way they treat women
The kens were treated SO MUCH BETTER than women irl, the kens just weren't the center of the barbies attention 😭
@@uniquenewyork3325they were homeless ans unemployed tho 😭
@@NovelPhoinix they didn't generalize men tho? They specified that it was misogynistic men.
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@niccix_ could've still been worse if you look at irl effects on women
Barbie is by no means “woke”. It's actually fairly egalitarian! And addresses how neither matriarchy or patriarchy can prevail.
Thank you. So many people seem to miss that the movie shows that the "matriarchy" in the barbie land is flawed.
The only way anything will work, is if we work together and have mutual respect
Also people keep saying that at the end everything went back to normal. It didn't right? The Kens and Barbies agreed to working together or something(?)
@CrimsonDawn-ou4og Yeah in fact the president said that they shouldn’t go back to normal. That some things did in fact need to change. And the Kens got their own court. That’s actually a pretty big step for equality right there.
People who criticise this in Barbie do not and will not accept anything other than a patriarchy. They're like absolute walls with no brains (sometimes) that can't be reasoned with, so they don't even accept equality
As a trans guy, watching barbie, I kinda resonated with allen. He wasn't a barbie but he wasn’t a ken either. He was on the barbies side, giving them his support, going to bat for them and not trying to take over the barbies movement to beat the kens. He never makes himself front and center, he stands in the back and has the barbies back.
allan is literally my trans non binary icon performance of the century fave i would die for him
@@kiwi-senpaime and my friends watched it at someone’s house in a big group and i said quietly at one point “what if Allen is us Non-binary people” and heard an “OH MY GOD” and the my nb friend locked eyes with me for a second. We felt seen. Love Allen.
allen is an enby icon
petition to make Allenergy and Allenough a thing
Any dude who says that barbie is "too feminist" or it villanizes men is a red flag.
what if its a woman saying it? i havent seen it but a girlfriend has that take....
They're truly projecting
@@Quonshe's a red flag as well. Most probably one of those "I'm not a feminist I'm a equalist" bullshit
@@Quon might have internaliized misogyny
@@nobodyelse7911 i hope you do realise that you are with this sentence arguing against the point of the movie even not to be put in boxes, people are allowed to be for equality and not be labeled feminists, feminists aren't the end all be all around equality. If they were men right's activists wouldn't exist nor would a lot of people shit on the current feminism of today
Ben Shapiro saying "the trans actor has a deeper voice to mine"... I'm going to be honest, most people already do that.
He looks like he recenetly hit puberty tho, proud of him
he sounds insecure lol
I hate him so much. Him and the other woman that literally looks similar I forget her channel name, was it like Comment section??? Idk they have weird brows that look similar and they both spew shit and it increases my hate for both of them.
Came to say this
i have a deeper voice than him and im literally a cis woman
No because Barbie gives us literally wake up calls. The point of Barbie was to tell people that women are stereotyped as pretty, sexualized, and submissive to men. People who say Barbie is “too feminist” aren’t getting the point because it’s not even that. It shows us BASIC WOMEN RESPECT. BASIC. It’s like giving a man respect just swap it with a women. It’s not even meant to be that we women rule the world. It’s that we don’t even get basic respect.
What the fuck is only fans about then. The “patriarchy” didn’t start that shit, it’s women freely objectifying themselves for monetary gain.
Stop acting a victim.
THIS.
REALLL- I hate when people's response to this movie is STRICTLY just; "uGH you FEMINISTS!!!" like holy shit can we just be treated like humans instead of objects?? Is that so hard to ask for???
@@nahomist6533EXACTLY
The only wake up call this movie gave was that people will pretend to like anything coated in garbage so long as it has a class lecture about how "A is bad because B did this, so we should demonize them and provide no actual solutions that doesn't solely cater to the party affected.
Barbie is about internal existentialism while Oppenheimer is external existentialism. Literally opposite spectrum of “oh shit” of existence right at the same time. One of the most impactful movies of the year and going to be in my top 5 favorite movies along side Suzie.
This is exactly what I’ve been trying to put in words. Thank you
Allen in the Barbie movie didn’t like patriarchy but didn’t know or feel powerful enough to stop it. It has examples of men who are morally positive examples throughout the entire movie.
Oh yeah very right!!
Yes. But also the two other Kens who were the Doggy dad and that other one too. So three male dolls. And what they had in common was that they were all created to be independent from Barbie. Allan was Ken’s friend, Doggy dad Ken was a a pet owner in his own right, and I can’t quite remember the last one but he also had his own thing. The point was that only the guys who had no real sense of identity were drawn to this toxic hyper masculine ideology. The rest were fine.
@@MissCaraMint the other one was Magic Earring Ken. He was discontinued because people thought he was gay.
@@riymeep6708 Yeah. That's what he was. Of course. Anyway that still fits my point that he is also not defined by his relationship with Barbie and so not affected by the Patriarchy that Ken brings back to Barbie land.
@@riymeep6708 bc he had a c0kring and they didn't realise what it was lol
the kenergy tattoo is the most filmcooper thing cooper could ever do
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Lmao fr😂😂😂😂❤️
@@abbi_xoxo cooper is in fact ken
@abbi_xoxo no one could play Ken better than Ryan gosling... except Cooper
Those men who are making fun of the barbie movie would shit their pants knowing that menly men men sing Barbie Girl by Agua in the military while marching. ACTUAL confirmation by my military dad. I don't see Barbie being an issue and feminine
I remember watching a video of marching soldiers singing Barbie Girl during their march. It was one of my favorite videos to watch as a kid
Barbie definitely wouldnt support the army
@@MimiUsagichan Well the Army supports Barbie
@@MimiUsagichanthere were at least two versions of Army Barbie, from what I found on Google.
@MimiUsagichan barbie has been in the army
I’m a doll maker- I loved all the obscure barbie history references. This video convinced me to watch Oppenheimer
Oh my gosh yes go see it, some areas are really heavy and might want you to cry a little, but it shows in great detail how everything was leading up to the use of the atomic bomb and can see it being very educational for others as of Barbie I liked it but it wasn’t the movie for me as it was
Oppenheimer cause of it’s historical aspect
Yeah I was debating seeing Oppenheimer because of how long it is but this makes me really want to see it.
Same!!
Yess I’m gonna go see it now
I cried when the narrator said we understand you shouldn't cast margot robbie if you wanna make this point because I felt as though it was a point within itself. Margot robbie literally isn't allowed to feel ugly or feel insecure like a normal human being because she's pretty. I tend to get called traditionally pretty a lot and I related to that heavily. I'm never allowed to say my insecurities and have them taken seriously or not be called conceited or something. That was genuinely a genius joke to add that stayed completely on theme.
I didn't even think about that..that's a great point
Yep. Bc it's all about how you feel about yourself & lots of pretty ppl don't feel pretty or confident at all... we alllllll have insecurities
I feel like the point it made for me is that even beautiful people don’t feel pretty because beauty standards have made us to feel like that, like we can never be enough
I didn't pick up on that at first. Wonderful point! I also saw it as a way of showing how even the most beautiful or perfect woman can never live up to the standards set for them. I know women that I consider to be very pretty and fit beauty standards that still have severe problems with how they see themselves. It is impossible to feel like you're enough in a world where you're not supposed to be.
That was the first thing I thought of!! I thought it was a really important thing to show that even the prettiest humans can still be insecure
Both barbie and Oppenheimer are the phrase "man made horrors beyond comprehension" in vastly differing ways
Bomb and wars and patriarchy, honestly yeah
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@@Pfle2005 😈😈😈
Says the person who didn't created single thing in her life
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As a trans dude imma have to be fr, I literally didn't realize anybody was trans. Ben would probably expect me to know as I'm on the team but the thing is, YOU LITERALLY DON'T KNOW. And also who fricking cares??? People be trans. It is what it is.
I didn’t know either because some biological females still have deep voices like that
I think cause one of the acttress is trans? I'm not sure I don't care about that stuff to go digging. People like to blow everything out of proportions especially twitter, sorry X
Fr, I didn't even notice. Was never even mentioned. They verbally brought up the Barbies differing by occupations and personalities
I didn't know until I saw Ben Shapiro crying about it. His point was dumb as hell cause half the barbies had a deeper voice than him anyway
@@dogdog7883yeah
Ken was not objectively evil, he almost cried when he rejected Barbie. He just needed Barbie’s approval that’s why he was so amazed Barbie said that “you’re very brave Ken” and he even said “I am?”
I heard a girl at my workplace complain about how the bomb scene didn't last long enough. The movie is three hours long, it's not called "atomic bomb" it's called "Oppenheimer"... if you want to hear about the bomb only and not the man, his struggle, and the repercussions of his choices, the consequences of the actions that set it all in motion... you don't watch this movie. Along with Barbie, it's a different, very serious, type of masterpiece, and I am glad we're getting this lately.
I think the bomb scene was amazing.
I don’t know if I have felt that much tension as I felt with that countdown and than I am not even talking about when it gos off.
But without the rest of the story it would not hit that hard.
I’d like to know what she would have wanted to see lol.
Just 2 hours of a bomb going off in slow motion?😂
If you want more bombs watch a Michael bay movie
That's such a wild thing to just say
How are they going to make the atomic bomb scene longer? Play the explosion 10x slower?
You’re so right cuz the movie was not abt the bomb. It was literally abt the political and mental dilemma that oppenheimer was going through
People just forget that their slogan is “you can be anything”, Barbie has been a feminist brand for a long time. They are constantly introducing new dolls with different body shapes, skin tones, disabilities.
That’s not feminist but ok
it’s more feminist than toys were before though right
@@Gnomelander1400that is feminist.
I felt so happy when they added the Barbie with Down syndrome because I really felt like it represented people like my brother in such a positive way
@@RealSkelloyeah that was really nice!
i’ve seen people saying barbie has a simplistic take on feminism - which, i have to say, i agree in some aspects, but it’s the fact that it’s enough to open the conversation that means a lot of me. male friends have messaged me after seeing it to ask for my perspective, kids will see it with their parents and ask questions about the patriarchy and inequality. honestly i think it would’ve benefited some of my cousins to see it when we were kids, because i spent so much of my childhood torn between playing dragons and sword fighting with them, and wanting to play with my barbies. i could’ve spent my childhood doing both instead of feeling trapped or wishing i was a boy so i could be included. i know it has adult themes but kids are gonna wanna see it, and it’s enough to start the conversation to break down gender roles before they’re subconscious in a child’s mind. and that’s a pretty big deal to me.
also: my intro to greta gerwig was 20th century women (my pfp) and it talks a lot about perspectives of women and trying to raise a teenage boy to be a feminist in the late 70s. she’s always been involved in these concepts and it means a lot to me that it’s seeing global success of this scale.
I mean, feminism is about equality. That’s it, that’s all the movie needed to say to be feminist, and that’s what it did. There was no way to make it more feminist without betraying the literal definition of feminism. And also, feminism doesn’t need to be complicated or deep. It needs to be simple and normalized. And that’s the direction Greta followed. Did the movie changed the world? I don’t think so, but it sure did reach more people than it would have if it had been more aggressive. It was compassionate, it was fun, it was on point, and that’s exactly what it needed to be. Plus every criticism leveled against it, it was already addressed in the narrative.
I’m loving the kenergy we’ve created in the studio.
The most hilarious thing about males not liking Barbie movie is when the movie wasn't out yet and the only information we knew about it was that Margot Robbie will play Barbie many people were upset about it because they thought that we will have yet another one movie with conventionally attractive female main character. Menzies were defending movie saying "Margot Robbie is ideal for this role, she's the most beautiful woman in the world, just let us enjoy normal movies" and blablabla. Now, when movie is out and they saw what it's about they create whole threads on the Twitter discussing how Margot Robbie is actually mid and very average looking. The male hypocrisy and fragile ego at its finest lol
Literally and Margot really was perfect for this role. It showed people that even someone seen as beautiful and like the perfect woman can feel heavily insecure and struggle a lot. Throughout the entire movie barbie struggles with herself thinking she’s not normal or not beautiful or anything even tho anyone would tell her that she is gorgeous and they even have a joke about it in the movie
I can't believe there's people on social media arguing that Margot Robbie is mid and average looking. We are living in fact the decline of western civilization
Lmao whoever says she's mid is probably butt-ugly themselves
@@thekarlshow_tm I completely agree. I’ve always hated when people get mad at others for being upset/insecure about themselves. The prettiest person in the world can still believe they’re ugly, and the smartest person in the world may still think they’re dumb. Their feelings aren’t invalid. Everyone gets insecure, it doesn’t matter your looks or your background, and we shouldn’t put others down because they “don’t deserve to feel insecure”, I loved the way Margot portrayed Barbie, and I loved the scene when she saw an old woman for the first time and called her beautiful even more. She was so scared of not being perfect, but when she saw someone with these so called “imperfections” she was in awe of her. As someone who struggles with toxic perfectionism I really enjoyed how it was portrayed. I’ve been put down so many times by others who tell me I don’t deserve to cry over my grades because it’s still an A or cry over my looks because I’m still skinny, when they’ll never understand how I feel. I loved watching Barbie’s development throughout the story, and it really gave me hope that things will get better.
I wanna see the men who say MARGOT FREAKIN' ROBBIE is mid. They probably gouged their own eyes out at the auditorium so they are now blind. I distrust anybody who holds that opinion because it is just not objective fact. Just like I distrust people who STILL say Gosling was too old for this role or bad at it
Ben Shapiro complaining that a trans woman has a deeper voice than him when there are _gradeschoolers_ whose voices are deeper than Ben's. Dude is the very model of the word "manlet."
Legit I’m a trans men who hasn’t had a drop of testosterone in my life and my voice is deeper than his 😭
His entire personality is just that one episode of a teen show where the loser character joins the jocks and desperately tries to act like them.
Dude I'm a cis woman and my voice is deeper than his
I'm a girly cis woman wearing pink at the moment and my voice is two times deeper than his
Ben looks like the kind of guy that my 5'2 cis woman's little hands can throw and manhandle around with no effort lol
Even as a woman, I preferes Oppenheimer. I LOVED Barbie, I watched it twice, I think it’s so fun and love the message that it’s coming across, its an amazing movie, about womanhood and growing up as a woman. Oppenheimer is a work of art. Its beautiful, its good, we will see it been talked about in years and years to come. Its a beautiful and great movie. I loved it. I love both. There’s no need to pin two movies against each other when they have nothing to do it each other
With the whole "oppenheimer glorifies the title character", it seems to be a common criticism used against characters and movies that take a more sympathetic or objective approach to things. Yet on the flip side, when movies literally tell the audience outright, this is bad or this is good, those movies are criticised for being political. I just think that being able to sympathise with characters such as oppenheimer even when they have done bad things is not glorifying them, its taking a nuanced and more realistic approach to what people are actually like, not wholly good or bad, just people.
People do not understand that sympathy and empathy are two different things and it shows
@@riymeep6708 oops
It's hilarious to me that anyone would watch Oppenheimer and think it's glorifying the man or the creation... people really do be lacking brain cells nowadays. We really don't deserve storytellers like Nolan. Oppenheimer is a balanced and nuanced story that doesn't tell you what to think. It's a conversation, a representation. It's a true story, I guess people have forgotten what it's like when a movie requires you to have original interpretations and extrapolations ;)
(eight months late but still ;0;) that still blows my mind, like who watched Oppenheimer and thought it was glorifying him at all, if anything it went out of its way to show how flawed and arrogant he was leading up to the bomb??? Like right before the Oscars GQ had this weird article written about why Paul Giamatti should win the Oscar, and it's remarks about Oppenheimer made it sound like Oppenheimer was the American hero of the movie???? Who watched that and thought he was a hero???
The article was just weird too it basically said Paul should get the Oscar cause he's "ugly" or something and Cillian deserved it less because he was a "handsome blue eyes boy" (Cillian is 47 so, calling him a boy was a choice too...)
People shocked that barbie is feminist, clearly know nothing about barbie as a franchise/brand
Right?! People think she’s just a hot doll that supposedly teaches kids to have body issues but that’s not how it is at all. She taught me i could be anything i wanted to be and that i could be independent and successful with no husband.
Exactly, I would collect barbie career dolls and pretend they were my coworkers as a kid. I especially loved the doctor set and now I’m bout to graduate law school ✌️
Barbie was problematic when I was a kid and the backlash was pretty hard on “math class is tough” That’s when Barbie expanded her interests.
@@Glitchibo how to lose weight, don’t eat food, classic. I see how it played on stereotypes of the time but the doll said hundreds of things so it was a nothing burger
@@rodneyp9590Let Barbie be stupid, smh. Math IS hard and i will not accept slander for admitting it
Greta Gerwig is still such a young director too. She only has what, 4 movies under her belt? She's already so skilled I cannot imagine the kind of masterpieces she's gonna be spitting out in 10 years
she is such a genius
She has plenty of movies she worked on, in a very short time as well.
i think this is only her 3rd movie actually :)
@@himenyx153it's actually little women i guess
@@nobodyelse7911no ladybird was her solo directorial debut
As a black poor girl, barbie didn't hit me that hard in my childhood, it just felt like an unachievable reality, I couldn't be anything I wanted, I couldn't even have a Barbie doll. Still I recognize the impact on other girls and pop culture and I'm willing to watch the movie as someone who never been a fan and always thought barbie was for the rich withe kids.
THIS. there's something so nauseating about the stereotypical barbie being babied, that's exactly what happens in real life, WOC being expected to effortlessly achieve greatness independently while their conventionally attractive counterparts are pitied and coddled every time they experience slight insecurity or pain
my sister and I used to literally make clothes for our barbies out of random pieces of fabric at our grandparent’s
I never touched a barbie in my life and ADORED this film. It's not about whether you played with a Barbie as a kid or not. In fact the movie literally touches upon your points aka little kids being given unachievable goals.
I actively HATED Barbie and traditional feminine roles and stereotypes since I was a kid and I got out of this movie deciding it was in my top 5 favorite movies of all time. You don’t have to be a fan to understand how incredible it is. 😉
@@ManubibiWalshSame I was a tomboy too. I avoided the color pink and hated doing feminine things because I didn’t want to be weak. I actually saw a bit of my past self in Sasha when she was grilling into Barbie. I grew up never owning a Barbie and even agreed that Barbie was a bad role model for girls when that mindset was at its peak. But I’ve slowly learned that pink is just a color that can be used in a variety of ways and doing feminine things isn’t bad. The movie really resonated with me especially the scenes with the mother. I left the movie crying and just remembering everything Sasha’s mom said.
The fact that my brother, who DESPISES feminists and how over the top some of them can act, actually loved the Barbie movie; says a lot about it and it’s real message.
As someone who is old enough to no longer be "sterotypically beautiful" i felt very seen and cried when barbie was afraid of no longer being stereotypically barbie beautiful and what losing that means for her future.
As someone who is still young and terrified of growing up, that scene was honestly beautiful and made me tear up. It affirmed to me that, no matter how old I get, I will always be me and will always be capable of happiness. Age is just evidence that you've made it out alive for this long. There is nothing wrong with it and is a wonderful thing.
@riymeep6708 all of that is true but in my head I still feel 25 and many days I don't recognize myself in the mirror any more. Both feelings are valid.
there’s a part of me that’s so scared to grow old, but i think that in my heart, im very excited. i’m excited to grow old and see the world, for my face and skin and body to change again. i want the love of the world to change me as i grow old.
I got in an argument with someone about Barbie the other day because he hadn’t even seen the movie and complained about how it degrades men so I’m happy to see cooper make a video about this
(edit) I think some people are getting this confused. Cooper explains everything better than people could in a comment section.
That’s such a weird accusation to make without even seeing the movie
but it does degrade men every man in the movie acts stupid and even in the end the kens aren’t treated as equal as the barbies
and i actually watched the movie
in the end they literally state that they will work to make kens and barbie’s equal in the future? bc change doesn’t happen right away it takes time?
@@V1rtual_VampireThe point is that it is pointing out how women are often seriously portrayed. It’s not degrading men, it’s a social commentary on how women are often put on the back burner in comparison. The fact that so many men are upset about it should really put into perspective how women feel when it’s done seriously and regularly to them (part of the point of the movie).
@@V1rtual_Vampirethe kens and barbies are all stupid/naive to some degree because they are extensions of children. Kens are little boys like Cooper says in this video. Everything Ken did was to cope with his reality, which happens to real boys in our world aswell. The reason they dont get the equal treatment as the Barbies is to remind us as the audience that things arent a happy ending but that the kens in barbieland are a reflection of woman in the real world. Its basically, do you really feel bad for the kens in barbieland if you dont stick up for women in real life who are subjected to the same treatment? Its supposed to leave a negative impression and I felt it too as a woman, i want the kens to be happy ofc but it will only happen if I stand up for other women.
This is not directed at you, its just something I noticed from men in general. They go absolutely feral whenever women are placed above them in any way, men have 0 tolerance for disrespect by women which is fair ofc, nobody should be disrespected just because, but with men there is this added layer of “you as a WOMAN even considered that you could be above me??? How dare you“ i see this time and time again and its literally a core belief of many men that they are absolutely above women. If women treated men the way they treat women, they would have hurt us more than they already do. I mean, just look at this movie, Barbies didnt even hate on the kens or objectify them or anything and still men are so mad. Women cant make this kinda commentary without mens ridiculous ego driven backlash instead of actual criticism
The fact giving women basic respect is seen as ‘too much’ ‘too feminist’ and ‘woke’ in itself proves what the moving was trying to convey
Oppenheimer: What if man has too much power
Barbie: What if men have too much power
Beautifully put
My mom thinks it's too feminist and forbids me from seeing it, literally all she does these days is spew bullshit I want to move out so badly
Ugh so sorry about that. Dont worry tho at least you are smart enough to realize the truth
she isnt on her own team, your mom. smh
Think about it like this: The most satisfying revenge is the realization that once you move out, you aren't obligated to keep her in your life. Might not be enough to make her self-reflect, but it's something 🤷🏾♂️
That sucks, if you still wanna watch the movie but can't see it in theaters there is plenty of bootleg websites that has it right now, let me know if you need reccomendations.
I’m 52. Your comment made me remember that dreadful longing of wanting out from under my mother’s wing. Good luck!
Barbie and Oppenheimer is just Animal Crossing: New Horizons and Doom all over again and I'm here for it.
I KNEW I FELT A SENSE OF DEJA VU, THATS WHAT IT WAS YOURE SO RIGHT
BRO THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING.
We’re all here for it 🤜🤛🤝
i knew something felt familiar
True
I have watched Oppenheimer, and I may watch Barbie. I can't imagine comparing the two as they are two movies with two different messages. I completely agree with you, Cooper, about the Oppenheimer movie's message. Beautifully put.
No exactly. I have personal feelings about both which is like
Oppenheimer is like the better MADE movie. You can’t deny that fact. I happened to enjoy Oppenheimer more (movie nerd in terms of like cinematography and soundtrack). Oppenheimer to me was just such an amazing movie which held such power and impact about the long term world ending implications and end of the day I’m fascinated by the atomic bomb in terms of its engineering and implications. So yeah I enjoyed it more.
Barbie for a lot of people was probably a lot more enjoyable and 100% fair and I’m sure a lot of ppl felt it had a larger impact which also completely fair. The impact for Barbie was in my opinion a lot more like ppl could have different interpretations of what womanhood and sexism means. It was incredibly fun and so beautiful and balanced the serious tones with humor and musical numbers to put it in simple words.
Barbie and Oppenheimer are not movies that should be compared for “better”. They are so different and just in general have such different narratives and reasons for being made and intentions of what it wanted to impact. To compare these two would be impossible because they are not the same in any sense. You can enjoy one more than the other or appreciate aspects of one more than the other but there is no better movie at the end of the day in terms of the movie as a whole
@boneshd_6133 I actually felt like the two movies complemented each other really well. One was about death and dealing with those consequences, and the other was about dealing with life. We need to think about both more seriously.
@@boneshd_6133 I would actually disagree that Oppenheimer was the better made movie. The audio mixing was in my opinion very poor, the dialogue was so quiet I genuinely wished there were subtitles but then everything else was so loud ( not just the explosions, I understand those were painfully loud for a reason) and some of the shots were wonky (some of the scenes with Emily and Cillian like their kiss and when she's consoling him after Jean's death). And speaking of Jean there was just so much potential for her character that I really don't think was explored enough, it was a 3hr film, yet she honestly just felt reduced to her body (especially in the "I am become death" scene between them, I understand how she was used later in the film during the interrogation scene). Those are my only critiques within the realm of fairness towards Nolan because honestly his style as a director isn't entirely appealing to me for this movie; there were so many scenes in the "fission" parts of the movie that could've been much more impactful had they been given more absurdism or honestly just more art in general. But that is just my personal opinion, and I don't blame Nolan for sticking to his style at all. I will also say that expectation had a lot to do with my opinions of the films; with Barbie I didn't think much of it beforehand whereas with Oppenheimer I had high expectations for it so that should definitely be considered with what I'm saying.
@@raindawnson9254no bc it also sympathises a lot with oppenheimer, to which it begs the question of why? for science? sure but the other scientists around him have stated that he truly didnt care abt the atrocity. then perhaps for history? its a film about one of the most tragic events in history that sympathises with the guy that had a huge hand in it, plus letters to and from trunan and the japanese military show that japan had offered to surrender on the sole condition they keep their imperial system, which truman refused as hd wanted an unconditional surrender (and whether or not one thinks keeping the imperial system or not is better doesnt matter, because it should not have been up to the usa to decide what was best for japan)
@@tylermeehan6117It sympathizes with Oppenheimer to show he was a human not a cold hearted devil like how a lot of people had thought before (honestly when it first came out I remember a lot of physicists saying they liked the movie because for the first time they began to really consider he was just a person not an unfeeling ahole)
His arrogance and flaws are present, but it was because the threat of nuclear power has never gone away, but the people who brought in weren't demons they were flawed and humans
Nuclear war is a inhuman threat, made by humans who were facing a delihma we weren't meant to face.
As for Truman and the Japanese surrendering; in real life there's evidence to support that none of the scientists at Los Almos knew they were ready to surrender, which isn't an excuse, but that's why the movie didn't touch on it. It was meant to feel distant with the horror of what they did creep in slowly because that is what happened for many of the scientists. Some had immediate guilt, some it mounted more and more as they saw what came from Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and as the scientists there also got radiation poisoning
My uncle literally came round my house and he was one of the melted brain men who missed the point COMPLETELY . He is NEVER round my house but he came round before yesterday and he was like omg all of this is bAlOnY and its all just hating men
I COMMENTED A MINUTE AGO AND SOMEONE LIKED?
BALONY!
🤭🤭🤭🤭
How could you not talk about Allen!!? He’s literally the best example of positive masculinity
It's a crying shame they didn't make a Allen Barbie doll.
allan is the best character of all time just because of his ugly shirt
i wish they made a doll for him. i wouldve bought it 😤
@@breadbird real
@@breadbirdI think you can still find some in thrift stores but I might be wrong
I saw oppenheimer and the scene where the people were stamping their feet and TRIGGER WARNING: when he steps over the imaginary burned body when he was leaving was truly SO horrifying and it sent chills down my body.
The single scream. THAT scream is still ringing in my head. It causes physical pain...
such a beautiful film
During that scene, there were some moviegoers in the audience who stamped their feet along with the movie and I felt like I was about to throw up.
Huh?
That scene still sticks with me
One of my favorite stories out of the Barbenheimer phenomena is how someone went to see Oppenheimer, and it was in the theater next to the showing of Barbie.
And during this super quiet scene in the movie, they could the 'I'm Just Ken' song next door.
These movies coming out together is crazy to me because I remember being 7 playing with Barbies while my dad explained to me the horrors of the a-bomb
the patriarchy doesn’t mean that boys are bad or that women are superior, it’s the over glorification of hyper masculinity that is damaging for both women and men. that’s why barbie is so genius because it highlights how women are suppressed and men expected to fit into an exact role. - love the kenergy tattoo by the way!
I really like how they show that both the Barbies being overpowering AND the Kens being overpowering is goofy af. Like... If you think about it, it's insane just how oppressed women are. We don't want women to act like men, we just want them to be equal. MEN AND WOMEN are supposed to live freely from stereotypes.
Exactly. It shows how the patriarchy is toxic and effects both men and women. I do love in the end how Barbie is allowed to make her own choices and doesn’t end up with ken.
@@shirley444patriarchy it's not toxic, sweething
Lol get your facts right for fuck sales. Women have neutering men into either category of hyper masculinity or complete wimps. Men are losing their ancestral memory of what it means to be a man and thus you’ve seen the absolute caricatures of what it means to be a man thanks to the shit-testing that’s been coming from woman.
@@yeyosilver7067 tf
My friends and I saw Barbie a few days ago and the entire theater was filled with pink. Everyone was wearing pink, there were guys in pink suits too, it was beautiful and the movie itself was incredible. The guy next to me was laughing as hard as my friends and I
That’s so good! Good men want women to be equal. 😇🙏
honestly, it was the best movie I've ever watched in theatres, just because of that. for a week, all you saw were groups of friends dressed in pink going to see the barbie movie, and me and my friends did the same. it was such a good movie, and everyone was laughing and making jokes on the theatre, it was just amazing
I was watching Oppenheimer with my friend, and when two specific (very overdramatic) scenes came on, we didn't even watch, we just stared at each other uncomfortably. We then talked about it later like "haha... tiddies... .......... nice"
Also, when I saw Barbie with my dad (6'2", blond, name is Ken) he was very happy when he found out that the "I am Kenough" hoodie was gonna be sold. His other friend, Ken, (Asian, very cool guy, idk how else to describe him tbh) saw it, they automatically knew that they were gonna get matching hoodies. It's honestly hilarious.
thank you so much cooper for validating my love for this movie, I'm pursuing a degree in engineering, which is typically a male dominated field, and it hurts so much to see so many young men make fun of the movie for being too girly and hating men. I love you so much 😭
Fight!! It's tough entering a male dominated field (I worked in construction for several years) but it's great seeing how a small but visible presence can help others get in there.
You can do it!! (And when they make you feel you're overstepping, step on them, while looking great.)
Good luck!
I litteraly got catcalled outside the theater on my way to watch Barbie 💀
i've seen people mention this a lot it's so annoying 😕
Literally got followed in the store afterwards 😞 like I got so scared I almost wished I didn’t dress up that night
@Sjood-qs8ol Funny thing is I didn't even dress up, stay safe out there ❤️🙏
Stay safe. I hope you’re doing okay 👍
@@moonbaby222 Question, if i shout out a genuine complement to you, is that still catcalling or am I just appreciating the aesthetic aspect of you?
The scene where Barbie told the older woman that she was beautiful made me break down in a full movie theater, that was one of the most beautiful scenes in movie history for me, AND IT WAS SO SIMPLE TOO
Fun fact: That was the OG Barbara Handler, Ruth’s daughter a.k.a. The real Barbie
@@K-ChoiWAIT IT WAS? That’s actually so cool-
it really did make me cry
@@SH4RP_CH3SEE my bad it was Ann Roth not Barbara, sorry for the misinformation
I can't believe that scene was up for debate of being cut from the film!
On July 21st, I walked out of a theater after watching both Oppenheimer and Barbie (in that order) and originally came to the personal conclusion that I liked Barbie better. It just felt more relatable to me as a 16 year old young woman, so I felt like it was just a better movie. However, after watching this video essay (if you want to call it that) comparing these two phenomenal films, I came to the realization that to me, Oppenheimer is a much better movie. I feel this way mainly because, despite Barbie being a great film about feminism, overcoming toxic masculinity, and the patriarchy, Oppenheimer's acting, score, cinematography, and most of all story really made me understand that the main message is so much bigger than we realize. Barbie was very impactful in the sense of gender roles and self worth, while Oppenheimer sheds light on the fact that humanity will come to an end due to our own hands, and if we don't realize this fact, then we really are doomed. Both movies were simply incredible and I personally believe both should be watched and appreciated. Great video Cooper!
You clearly didn’t understand Barbie 😭 Men caused all these wars and built these bombs with their folly. The patriarchy is to blame for war- not “humanity”
@@kierad1794 I don't think it's solely the patriarchy to blame for war. Yes, it's true throughout history especially during the World Wars, men were primarily in charge and involved particularly in the creation of the atomic bomb. However, in the modern world, men aren't the only ones partaking in war and creating nuclear weapons. It's unfair and incredibly sexist to place the full blame on men for things like warfare when it is the natural folly of humanity, not just man to engage in it. I definitely understood the message of Barbie, but I appreciate the criticism!
@@hayleyvega5876 bro like where tho? where are the women making war? like name ONE!
@@hayleyvega5876they didn’t say men they said the patriarchy
@@nyssfromtheabyss3839 yep. patriarchy is an idea, not a single person. the main proponents of patriarchy are men- as they are the beneficiaries of a patriarchal system. women sometimes are proponents of patriarchy as well- obviously we’re watching Brett Cooper 🥴
The speech done by Ferrara at the end as well as the conversation between motherhood and daughters literally had me in tears lmao. I went and saw it with my grandmother and my mom and immediately after those speeches I told them I loved them and everything they do for me. Barbie is so on the nose but also not when it comes to what women AND men can go through. Both Barbie and Ken constantly feel like they aren't good enough for varying reasons. Barbie not being pretty enough, Ken not being manly enough. It's a wild movie that plays on important topics that women can really feel in their core and by god that speech by Ferrara has lived in my head rent free since opening night.
as a trans man watching barbie, Allan instantly resonaned with me and very quickly became my favorite character in the film; because similiar to Allan I felt as if I couldn't connect with the beauty of being a woman but also didn't resonate with ken's behavior and ideals in the 2nd and 3rd act. throughout the whole film we see Allan participating in activities with both the barbie's and the ken's, but not really feeling like he belongs in either (there's also something to say about how ken's patriarchy brainwash didn't work on allan). SImiliarly this is how i feel sometimes as a transgender man, not connecting with the cis women in my life, but also understanding that I have a different outlook on being a boy than my cis male counterparts, because I wasn't given the luxury of being assigned male at birth. Like allan, there's this feeling of being a 3rd party idling by (much like in the scenes where he says "and Allan!" when someone is talking about the Barbie's and the Ken's). Allan said himself he was the only allan in barbieland, and i completely understand what that feels like.
A woman is an adult female human. Prior to adulthood, a female human is referred to as a girl (a female child or adolescent). Denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes. Women inherit a pair of X chromosomes from their parents, and are capable of pregnancy and giving birth from puberty until menopause. More generally, sex differentiation of the female fetus is governed by the lack of a present, or functioning, SRY-gene on either one of the respective sex chromosomes. Female anatomy is distinguished from male anatomy by the female reproductive system, which includes the ovaries, fallopian tubes, uterus, vagina, and vulva. The adult female pelvis is wider, the hips broader, and the breasts larger than that of adult males. Women have significantly less facial and other body hair, have a higher body fat composition, and are on average shorter and less muscular than men.
A man is an adult male human.
Prior to adulthood, a male human is referred to as a boy (a male child or adolescent).
Like most other male mammals, a man's genome inherits an X chromosome from the mother and a Y chromosome from the father. Sex differentiation of the male fetus is governed by the SRY gene on the Y chromosome.
The male reproductive system contains the external genitals (the penis, testes and the scrotum) and internal parts, including the prostate gland, vas deferens and urethra.
During puberty, hormones which stimulate androgen production result in the development of secondary sexual characteristics, thus exhibiting greater differences between the sexes. These include greater muscle mass, height, the growth of facial hair and a lower body fat composition.
@@patternrecon5271tldr: I didn’t watch the movie, also god will never love you and you will die alone and scared and I will laugh at your gravestone
Hey, I felt the same way as well!! I’m non-binary and you perfectly described why I loved Allan so much, he’s just kind of there as someone who doesn’t exactly fit into either category, and that’s okay!!
@@patternrecon5271 honey you forgot to take your schizo meds again
@@patternrecon5271okay Wikipedia
literally in an hour, my family and I are going to see Barbie and all I’ve heard since it came out from them is “it’s too woke” “why do you need a trans barbie, thats gross” and finally, “you’re joking, there’s a disabled barbie? that’s just extreme” this is why I wanted to see it with my friends
update: its been 2 days since the movie and the comments are still flying in. ive been trying to talk about seeing oppenheimer with my boyfriend and brother (hes upset about barbie but cares more about this one) bc we've wanted to see it for a long while but its still "that was WAAYYY too feminist for a kids movie" "poor ken, why wont barbie just be in love with him? thats why she was created" who taught my family this kind of stuff
Imagine thinking having disabilities is extreme... like people just exist like that, it's LIFE
Literally everyone forgetting Barbie has had very diverse dolls for YEARS
Why do people get so mad that they have to see people that look different? It's literally just real life. It's not "woke" to have a black character or a disabled character or an lgbt character. It's just reflecting real life. If you don't wanna see that, don't watch movies or go outside.
@@peachesncharlotte exactly!! im pretty sure they're also just against disabilities in the first place because they will NEVER mention or even go near my cousin who is disabled. they act like she doesnt exist and whenever she needs help, they ignore her
@@thegirlinthefireplace10 LOUDER FOR THE ONES CRITICISE BARBIE 🗣🗣🗣
My dad actually cried after watching Barbie because he was so moved by how much Ken’s story brings light to a lot of the struggles men go through. And I agree with him, and I relate to him in way.
Edit: Just watched Oppenheimer and I agree with everything Cooper says, and I talked to my mom about it, and we both said that Oppenheimer shouldn’t have been demonized
I cried a lot during the climax scene in Oppenheimer. The noise in the cinema was deafening and just agonizing. It's just terrifying and awesome
Ben Shapiro getting pissed that a trans woman’s voice is deeper than his, yet literally anyone’s voice is deeper than Ben’s.
The only thing that competes with Ben's voice is a literal toddler.
I'm a cis woman, but taller than him, hairier than him and have a deeper voice, so I'm absolutely CERTAIN that in a hypothetical conversation with him, he'd shoot straight for transphobia within the first 30 seconds
@@anaionescu8913 Yeah. I'm a cisgender woman with a ukrainian accent, causing my already deep voice to sound even deeper. I remember I said "excuse me" while walking into the ladies bathroom and heard 2 women whispering about me.
A woman is an adult female human. Prior to adulthood, a female human is referred to as a girl (a female child or adolescent). Denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes. Women inherit a pair of X chromosomes from their parents, and are capable of pregnancy and giving birth from puberty until menopause. More generally, sex differentiation of the female fetus is governed by the lack of a present, or functioning, SRY-gene on either one of the respective sex chromosomes. Female anatomy is distinguished from male anatomy by the female reproductive system, which includes the ovaries, fallopian tubes, uterus, vagina, and vulva. The adult female pelvis is wider, the hips broader, and the breasts larger than that of adult males. Women have significantly less facial and other body hair, have a higher body fat composition, and are on average shorter and less muscular than men.
A man is an adult male human.
Prior to adulthood, a male human is referred to as a boy (a male child or adolescent).
Like most other male mammals, a man's genome inherits an X chromosome from the mother and a Y chromosome from the father. Sex differentiation of the male fetus is governed by the SRY gene on the Y chromosome.
The male reproductive system contains the external genitals (the penis, testes and the scrotum) and internal parts, including the prostate gland, vas deferens and urethra.
During puberty, hormones which stimulate androgen production result in the development of secondary sexual characteristics, thus exhibiting greater differences between the sexes. These include greater muscle mass, height, the growth of facial hair and a lower body fat composition.
@@patternrecon5271 What does this have to do with this comment??🤨
the one thing about barbie too, is not only does it critique the patriarchy and the effects it has on both men and women, but it also critiques the idea of a matriarchy. it shows how a society that is run based off of just one gender is bad for both involved, and instead encourages for there to be a healthy balanced society, where women do actually have equal right (like actual try equal rights). I really liked the way that the barbie movie critiqued a lot of mature themes, and it did that all while still maintaining a fun energy.
This is eactly what I thought about that movie
Exactly bro, my takeaway was that, when you have one gender running everything, someone is bound to get hurt. So, matriarchy would be and is oppressive to men, and patriarchy would be and is oppressive to women.
Except it went right back to a matriarchy. When the Kens asked for higher positions in government, The Barbies told them no.
they said that they will work to make the kens and barbie’s equal they didn’t flat out say no, bc change takes time
@@lamariothat's because you cannot fix those issues in a single day, the movie says it is going to take time for both groups to be treated equally.
The movie was extremely meaningful for my boyfriend, as he's usually stoic and cold but was crying by the end of the film, he was touched by Matell's speech telling Barbie to figure out her own path. That moment was so sweet, although I'm a woman the movie did not hit me with any revelations at all, I didn't connect to any of the characters but it was interesting to see that it affected others so deeply.
I’m not an easy crier and that movie made me shed a tear several times
Its like what Oppenheimer said in the movie "they won't understand until they've seen it" and he doesn't fully understand the consequences until he's seen it during the trinity test. Naivete knows no bounds until it's punched in the face with the new reality.
The discourse around Barbie has been fascinating. Some men are saying it's anti-man, others are saying it's not anti-man, some women are gleefully saying it is indeed anti-man, others are not. I haven't seen it yet, but going off of clips and synopses I've seen online the "everyone deserves to feel valued and seen and no gender (or any other demographic really) should have total power over society" seems to be the correct one in my opinion.
It absolutely is ☺️
This film is totally pro-equality. Some people just lack media literacy HARD
I saw the movie and it is the correct ome
exactly, like the message is so very in your face but as usual, an unfortunate amount of people with zero media literacy, are making the show into whatever suits their narrative (whether it be men who want to hate it for whatever reason their tiny brains/large egos can dredge up or toxic women who had the point that matriarchy is bad hit them in the face and still missed it)
I think they are making the mistake of believing that the Barbie world is a stand-in for a feminist paradise when it’s just an animated world of children’s toys (the Kens are treated with less importance than the Barbies because that’s usually how they are played).
When I walked into the theater to watch barbie, I expected it to be just for shits and giggles. But when I walked out of the theater, i was sobbing, questioning my very existence, and feeling a mixture of genuine pain and comfort in my heart.
And whoever says that this movie was a waste of time, you completely missed the point
sobbing is crazy
@carnivall there's nothing wrong with being emotionally impacted by art. Sometimes things just hit you a certain way and it catches you off guard.
@@pookaverse The way that you’re 100% the same person to say that sobbing at a Ghibli movie is completely fine though 🤭
@@pastelprincce I have never cried in a Ghibli movie. I haven't seen Grave of the Fireflies however.
@@pookaverseohhhh I get it! Your special and unique and different! Ohhhhhhhhhhhh!!
I saw both movies 2 days ago and while I loved both I physically can't stop thinking about Oppenheimer. Every time I try to focus on something else, my mind wanders back to it. I'm obsessed and a movie has never done this to me before. I've listened to the soundtrack, watched interviews and documentaries. I feel the strongest compulsion to go see it again, by myself. Cillian's haunting performance was out of this world. The score, sound design, cinematography and cast are all top tier. Nolan is a genius
I have never left a theatre that was so silent in my life after leaving Oppenheimer. There was such a heaviness over the whole room. Everyone just sat there for a good couple minutes, barely anyone speaking, just absorbing what they just watched before they left, it was insane and so so eerie
I think the best example i saw abt missing the plot of barbie was in the movie theater. After the big speech about womanhood, the audience clapped but once it died down you could hear a group of boys laughing. Truly poetic in the worst way.
Exactly, had a group of 13 year old boys sitting next to me hupersexualizing Margot Robbie the whole time, loudly making crude jokes, talking over the movie, walked out just before the womanhood montage yelling “F*CK BARBIE” and it was just so upsetingly applicable to everything happening on screen
When my partner and I went, the whole place was filled with people wearing pink and there wasn’t any weirdness going on. I really appreciated that the people there were respectful. There were teen boys there with their girlfriends and I didn’t hear anything from them. I hope those boys realized some things, as my partner himself did 🥺 that women are expected to be everything but to also be quiet, subservient. I was crying the whole time, as I struggled a lot with femininity growing up and have just very recently started to understand what it truly means to be Woman :)
Barbie was actually a great movie in my opinion
exactly i fr cried in the theatre
@@candycoloredprotagonistSAME and it was just so goofy funny silly like actually hilarious and i usually do not laugh at movies
@@candycoloredprotagonistI ended up crying a LOT at the last scene about the permission to exist. My sister thought the movie was dumb, but it hit me very personally (also I'm getting the "I am Kenough" hoodie lol)
It was. Definitely one of the most unique modern movies. I love the production design, the costumes, the acting and the soundtrack. And the ending was very emotional.
@@onepresence9460 I also loved how they didn’t pick any side in the matter and showed equality in a good way instead of some Hollywood films…
The elderly women at the end is actually the daughter of the creator of Barbie
i saw barbie and i barely ever cry about movies EVER but i was bawling my eyes out during barbie
samee
someone said that they purposely hated barbie as a kid and refused to watch this movie because she was too stereotypical and gave a bad representation for women by promotic unrealsitic deals.
...my sister in christ, that is literally addressed in the movie. 💀💀
i’m convinced that people who hate on barbie for being negative towards men angrily stormed out of the theater after watching the first half.
Exactly, because there is no way anyone with a brain actually finished the movie thinking that
It wasn't even negative towards men. These ppl are just so hyped up on their own delusions and worldview that they literally hallucinate a different ending to prove their point. It's told flat out to their faces that everyone's rights should be equal, and they still claim it's against men.
EXACTLY like did they not see the 2nd half of the movie?? Did they not see Ken the moment he realized he was enough and that he didn’t need to rely on Barbie in order to become a person who felt self-fulfilled? He literally wore a sweater that said “I’m Kenough” like dude the movie was not “women good, men bad” AT ALL!!
Ik for a fact they stormed out on the line where Ken wants barbies attention
I literally saw four men walk out of the cinema during America Ferrera's monologue so maybe that's what happened
I grew up in New Mexico. My mother grew up in Los Alamos because her dad worked at LANL. My dad now works at Sandia National Labs. You don't grow up here (especially in Los Alamos or Albuquerque) without knowing someone who either works at the labs or is related to someone who works at the labs. With that kind of just in the culture here (again mostly Los Alamos and Albuquerque) a lot of us end up pretty familiar with the story and the history, and a lot of us also saw the Trinity testing site as kids(if you're family had the resources to get there because it is in the middle of nowhere). I know someone who used to be a historian at Sandia who is EXTREMELY familiar with the history of Oppenheimer because of that job. She (and a lot of other people here who are very educated about this topic) agree that the movie was very well done because it really captured the way Oppenheimer's mind worked while also not glorifying the decisions that were made, as well as being fairly historically accurate to the actual events Oppenheimer was involved in.
Honestly I went to see Oppenheimer only because of Barbenheimer because I thought I wouldn't like it that much, I heard some opinions about it glorifying the atomic bombing. It turned out to be one of the most impactful movie experiences for me even my hands were literally sweating. I started reading the American Prometeus the same day because I needed to learn more about the events shown in the movie and this book is one of the best biographies I've ever read.
After seeing Oppenheimer I really don't get how anybody would think that this movie glorifies the creation of an atomic bomb like???
Did we watch the same movie? But yeah I've heard that some people were cheering during the trinity test counting scene so everything is possible ig 💀
barbie was such a powerful movie. the scene of all the daughters of the people involved in filming was beautiful and for me it is about feminism and thats not a bad thing at all. it really speaks to me as a woman 💗
As a Transman watching Kens storyline was honestly the most unexpected trans representation. Like Ken isn’t a transman but the oppressed by society -> patriarchy exister (not good for anyone involved) -> having to learn how to be “Kenough” is literally such a trans mood. I’ve never even thought about getting a tattoo but after feeling so deeply represented by Ken that I’ve been genuinely seriously considering getting a Kenergy tattoo myself
I think Barbie does a good job in addressing serious issues without making anything too dark or somber, and it was a great empathetical movie, and it wasn't perfect, but it was good and it resonated with people on an personal level. And it hurt to see people around me say the movie 'vilified men' and 'had too many female characters' . We can't even have this, we can't have BARBIE.
Ikr
... THAT was the trans Barbie?? I also have a deeper voice for a woman, does that mean I'm trans?
I feel like you gotta REALLY be looking for shit to be mad, at this point. It really wasn't as awful as people make it out to be. I'm so grateful I watched it before all the lame reviews came out to ruin the experience for everyone. I appreciated that it was more compassionate toward men than I expected & essentially tried to relay the message that NO ONE should be above another, we should be working together not against eachother. That's what I took from it, anyway. How you react fully depends on your own perspective & life experiences. If you want to be mad, you'll find reasons to be mad. Nobody can help you at that point. End rant.
Men really be like: “Wait, the movie DOESN’T let the men run everything??? How dare it try and oppress us!!!”
Dude literally I didn’t even know the doctor barbie was trans. I didn’t even pay attention to the fact she had a deeper voice I was just like “slay a doctor barbie she’s really pretty”
It’s not hard to have a deeper voice than Ben. Most of us do.
Bro I didn't even know who was trans until pointed out in this video, tbh that shows that homophobes and transphobes being up in arms about it literally does not matter. Their arguments are pointless.
Honestly! Some people are finding non-issues to talk about! I would not have known that actress was a trans woman had there not been so much discourse around such a small factor 😭
I was gonna say EMPATHY IS A HUGE theme in the Barbie movie
I love Barbie so much, but I adore movies that leave me thinking, and Oppenheimer did that. It was haunting and it really keeps you thinking, similarly to "When the Wind Blows"
i WEPT while watching barbie. it touched my heart in a way i wasnt expecting. i watched it bc i grew up playing with barbies and my inner child wanted to see it, but it did something for my soul idk. having boobie hard, being a daughter hard, insecurities are inevitable when the world operates the way it does. im glad i saw it & wanna see it again ngl
I watched Barbie last night and I genuinely burst out sobbing at the end. There were a lot of parts that got me, of course, and a lot that were funny as fuck and as a writer I loved it so so much-but that ending part (SPOILERS!!!) where Ruth and Barbie are walking and talking, the beautiful monologue, “close your eyes and feel” and that SLIDESHOW. That SLIDESHOW is what made me lose it more than I was already. And my mom asked me what was wrong and I couldn’t put words to it because it was a FEELING. A FEELING that I’d had forever and never ever seen like, “explained” before-when I saw that slideshow I saw the way I see the world, how I feel the world-how even though I’d gone through so many things talked about in this movie (I’m a woman, if not obvious lol) I still see the world that way and I FEEL, and it’s OKAY to not know what you want and to FEEL and how my mother has always supported me-shit you not I’m tearing up right now-when I was a little girl I loved Barbie so much, she was my world, I’m turning 20 this year, and this is probably one of the most important things I could have ever seen at this point in my life. I felt UNDERSTOOD.
This is SO real, so much that by reading halfway through your comment made me shed a tear.
Dude, you made me tear up just reading this! I am also a 20-year-old gal and I burst into tears the very second it was on.
i asked the group of people i went to see it with if they almost cried during the movie and they were like “no lol” and i was like?? i almost cried from the mother/daughter dynamics because my mom has been so supportive and such a good mom and to see Sasha treating her mom like that genuinely made me tear up. And yeah, the movie opened my eyes to a lot of feelings I already had and confirmed them for me. I honestly loved it and it was deeply emotional I think for those it truly connected to. I think some people just didn’t have the same kind of experiences that I did recently with this movie and so it hit me way harder than them lol
Oh my gosh same!!!! That was such an insane scene to me and I was just feeling it and it was unexplainable but I was pretty much sobbing during it
I'm a woman turning 20 this year too and I completely understand what you mean.
OKAY I'm getting real tired of not seeing anything Oppenheimer. I'm native american, I'm from one of the several tribes in NM and I live right down the hill from Los Alamos. My people and so many others have to deal with the consequences of LANL (Los Alamos National Lab). Things like generational diseases, trauma, health issues, dumping issues, water and land contamination. People always what LANL and Oppenheimer did/created a good thing or say it's bad but hardly ever try to stop nuclear anything. Please , research the tribes and people who are effected by this awful thing. Learn the real history.
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in cooper’s little fantasy land he’s ken and taylor swift is barbie
The scene where Barbie says “you’re so beautiful” and the lady says “i know it!” Is the cutest thing I’ve ever seen
People just can’t simply be entertained anymore 😒 both movies are fantastic and not everything has to be critiqued in such extreme political takes. Our society is so hell bent on arguing online just for the sake of arguing and having a “ hot take” that people’s minds are made up before even trying to enjoy something.
I think this trend started during the pandemic (in the last few years) when folks were working from home and online too much. I hope it fades away like any other trend, it's too reactionary and shallow to last.
Exactly, what the fvck happened to simply enjoying things?
@@biteofdogwe all desperately need to touch grass
When Ken says about thinking patriarchy was more about horses it was incredible. I dunno why yet but that's in my head forever
I’m so glad you liked Oppenheimer! It was such an incredible movie. Every single actor brought their A-game.
I’ve only watched Oppenheimer, but I’ll probably come back to talk about Barbie.
Oppenheimer: Personally, I think it’s amazing, especially if you understand the science and have the historical context. I was NOT expecting anyone to be topless in there, but let’s move on from that. I think the directors did great on tying the events of the movie into future events (i.e. the Cold War). They did super well on showing the complexities of his character and how he was not perfect, nor was he particularly good at interpersonal relationships. They definitely did their research, and I think that they captured Oppenheimer’s conflicting feelings on the creation of the atomic bomb. The way it was presented was really intriguing and kept you on your toes, despite the fact that most of us know what happens if you know your history. Overall, I think that it was great, though the sound was a little overwhelming. That’s kind of a me thing. I would also like to add that the purpose of the movie was not to glorify Communism, but to show what happened from Oppenheimer’s perspective, which is why many of the characters that were part of the Party were shown in a positive light. Also, I think when Oppenheimer said, “I think we did.” They were also kind of foreshadowing the Cold War. The Cold War caused Russia and the US to now have the weapons to potentially destroy the world. Reply to me please y’all I need to talk about this with people even if it’s an argument because I feel like y’all will be civil.
Just a note, it was the Soviets not just Russia. Russia was a part of the Soviets, but not the entire country, though it did have the biggest role.
@@reynarivera5355 ah. Yeah I probably shouldve made that distinction
@@imateakettle You all good. Trust me, even I know it's really picky for me to mention it. 😄
@@reynarivera5355 No i do it too. It was like, 3 am when i wrote that and i overlooked it lol
@@imateakettle Don't we all? And yeah, I agree with you on how amazing this film is, makes me interested in science, and I hate science
fun fact: the woman barbie says 'you're beautiful' and the woman says 'I know'. the woman is actually Barbara, the daughter of the creator of the doll, and barbie is named after her! :D
(GUYS. i have been informed this might not be true. this is just what my mom told me after we watched the movie, sorry)
Wait that’s so cool! That was one of the sweetest parts of the movie
Oh my god I love thattt!!
I'm seeing Barbie on Wednesday with friends and I DEFINITELY gott throw this fun fact in when it's time
@@ginnundso have fun watching it
@@cazzward2673 ikr, it was so sweet :D
@@damidzy1111 oh! thanks for the clarification, i must've switched it up. oops
My family has been calling me “Barbie” in a derogatory way whenever I do something “high maintenance”, but I’ve been taking it as a compliment
As you should ❤
@@geministrial950 ty ❤️
I was screaming, crying, throwing up at "Cmon in, I'll play guitar at you." AT YOU WAS A SO WELL-SCRIPTED CHOICE OF WORDS.
THANK YOU for saying that about barbie and discussing the real message. i’m so tired of people saying otherwise and deeming it a form of propaganda. i was literally thinking about the message the entire movie and couldn’t stop fanning over the great delivery. cooper once again, makes my day better
I remember learning about Oppenheimer in middle school and knowing that Einstein himself said his role in it was his lifelong regret always haunted me growing up and filled me with this existential dread that my 12 year old self couldn't understand. I wanna see this movie but I'm afraid of it fucking with me psychologically
It probably will, but it gets you really thinking about important things and moral dilemmas, so I'd recommend you see it anyway. I've never watched a movie which caused me to think so much.
I believe that the older woman in that scene is actually the daughter of the woman who created Barbie. So it adds another layer to it, Barbie calling the girl who inspired her beautiful.
That's actually just a popular rumor. The real Barbara Handler wasn't in the film.
the old lady in that scene was a costume designer greta has worked w before
One tiny detail I really loved in Oppenheimer was the fact that in one of the musical scores they included the subtle ticking of a Geiger counter. The music, the visuals, the writing were all so incredibly done!
oh, so i wasn't just hearing things! that was such a good little detail i loved it
@@sand__witch it’s probably one of my favorites in the ost besides Destroyer of Worlds, the sound effects are incredible >:D
It’s called Ground Zero if you’re interested in listening to it again!
@@peanut3466 ty! i'll give it a listen. i'm kind of mad at myself for not checking the ost out earlier bc i liked it so much
Those two movies are totally of different genres, although they both touch heavy topics. You actually got me excited to see Oppenheimer, and I loove dark historical films
MARK RONSON(the guy who made the music for Barbie, and specifically "I'm Just Ken") JUST POSTED MY KENERGY TATTOO VIDEO ON HIS INSTAGRAM FEED!!!
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petition for cooper to be casted as a ken for barbie 2. I don't think it should exist but it should if cooper's gonna be in it
@@chocolateavian yesss
I’ve watched barbie but not Oppenheimer, my parents went to see Oppenheimer and they said it made a large impact, seeing cooper describe it and explain it as haunting made me want to watch it so much
I watched both on the same day. It was an amazing experience. Highly recommended.
I’ve seen it! For someone who know the story, the impact and the details beforehand, the movie was not more than a sensationalized story with beautiful imagery
It is a haunting movie and certainly made its impact
Bro the transgender Barbie is SO pretty and I loved her voice! I appreciate Cooper for being a smart decent human being because they're hard to find these days
i loved how Oppenheimer was portrayed as neither a good or bad person, and how they highlighted his PTSD / him being haunted by the event. it was objectively an amazing movie and anyone who says otherwise probably has the attention span of a Cocomelon iPad baby
Does the movie show us Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Does it show us the actual victims of nuclear war? Or does it just try to humanize bomb-makers?
@@thundercloud755 I would just go see the movie, it doesn't really show it since the focus is on Oppenheimer, not so much the bombing. Just the before and after, and tbh i'm glad they didn't show it because I feel like that would be kinda "trauma corn" imo. I'd rather watch a documentary for that.
This is a perfect way to describe it. I loved the movie but couldn’t put what I felt into words.
I don’t have the attention span to watch a 3 hour movie tbh
@@thundercloud755 Oppenheimer wasn't the one who was in Japan dropping the bomb.. And apparently he never met a Japanese person irl show why would they show that? Also if they did have Japanese ppl in the film, all you would see is them dying in the most brutal way possible?? Also the film DID show Oppenheimer feeling guilty for the bombing of Japan.