RMT Iceberg Explained A real Problem in any Game Mortal Online 2 Star Vault trying their best to fix

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  • @hamppuhannu
    @hamppuhannu 4 місяці тому +2

    Started MO2 few weeks ago and found this channel few days ago. Loving the energy! Party hard at hard party!!

  • @behelitruler9191
    @behelitruler9191 4 місяці тому +5

    I think if SV bans karnimata for duping like they did Black Widows for the vendor overflow bug, that might help a lot.

  • @DarkTideOffroad
    @DarkTideOffroad 4 місяці тому +5

    when SV dropped trinkets they had to go bonkers with it instead of being subtle. they are op and #1 unbalancing factor between characters aside from skill. should have been half. ppl want to log in and make pvp on an even playing field. thats why they rmt. because they aren't going to grind RNG 8 hrs a day for months. the only way they can fix this is to raise the floor on lower lvl trinks (which i hear they are already doing, just 2 years too late)

    • @captainharlock3998
      @captainharlock3998 4 місяці тому +1

      Disagree hard on the trinkets. They make the game much better. With my main footie, I'm now a crafter AND a potent tamer as well. Don't have to rely on anyone besides for mats for crafting, which my alt does.

    • @DarkTideOffroad
      @DarkTideOffroad 4 місяці тому +1

      @@captainharlock3998 i apologize i was more speaking to the dmg+ resistance+, not the action and profession points.

    • @captainharlock3998
      @captainharlock3998 4 місяці тому +2

      @@DarkTideOffroad I mean, 11% ecu resistance is pretty sweet. But I get where you come from. I don't look for equal playing field, to be fair. I look for unique loot and cool stuff. Like a real mmorpg. I'm VERY much more on the PvE / RPG part of the game than PvP, and adventuring and finding treasures worth thousands of gold on the market (keeping the best to myself, of course!) is a thrill I absolutely love in MO2. PvP is nothing more than the risk added to adventuring.

  • @Yaw_AU
    @Yaw_AU 4 місяці тому +3

    If youre so cut up about RMTing why are you in the Karni alliance? And for anyone who doesnt believe karni RMT we have screenshots of them trying to buy gold in the Rat Alliance Coms that wolfzeit are a part of

  • @Aearon1
    @Aearon1 4 місяці тому +2

    Maybe WZ should consider leaving their alliance due to how common it is to RMT (buying AND selling) in Karni Mata if it is such an issue to make a video.
    Karni mata has the RMTurks:
    Maxstor - Maxwulf - Oroichi
    These guys run an RMT ring where they hand farm gold within the safety of your alliance and sale it to whoever is willing to buy. They have been doing this since they were in Dreadlords.
    They have PMed me asking if I wanted to buy. They do this because of the country they are in.
    Another example in your alliance is Deadatari (Sony) is his mounted name. He manually farms outlaws for 80 hours a week and sales the gold.
    I am glad you are shining light on the issue, though. It is a serious issue in the game and usually it is an issue with the gameplay of the game. The game is too grindy for the average human? Easy RMT economy. This game is way too grindy economically for the average player.

  • @desmichale
    @desmichale 4 місяці тому +3

    I mainly quit playing because of Tianming, the RMT guild that is blocking the Nekro dungeon 24/7. We tried our best as alliance to get rid of them but what are you going to do against someone who is guarding the bridge 24/7, earning money from it?

    • @nikalasnalter4431
      @nikalasnalter4431 4 місяці тому

      ahahaha weakling

    • @behelitruler9191
      @behelitruler9191 4 місяці тому +1

      i understand that struggle. my guild managed to break through once thanks to a masterful shield bash where their lead man missed and ours knocked them off the bridge. but we could only do it because we had the numbers and that one good play. I find dungeon camping in general to be kinda cringe, but the people who play 24/7 because it's their literal job ruin it for the average player that just wants to get necro scrolls or whatever dungeon loot

    • @nikalasnalter4431
      @nikalasnalter4431 4 місяці тому

      @@behelitruler9191 yea u want come in end game content for free kek. imagine ppla trying to play at 6k RMM but they play at 2k. same shit, get gut

    • @kaspuj
      @kaspuj 4 місяці тому

      just dont go there and they will be bored 🤣

    • @kissmyaft
      @kissmyaft 4 місяці тому

      @@behelitruler9191 You are not entitled to "necro scrolls or whatever dungeon loot". It's a PvP game and OF COURSE dungeons will be camped, PvP is the ONLY part of the game that's good and Tianming are doing the Lord's work by providing challenge to daring adventurers. The rest can go back to mining granum naked.

  • @serval4935
    @serval4935 4 місяці тому +1

    Almost everyone who farms fluxes at the moment is RMT. At the moment, due to the latest patches, they don’t even make full-fledged spiritists - there is 1 spiritist who simply puts boxes on the ether, and the rest simply farm using 1 box, some even with the help of bots.

  • @zeztox
    @zeztox 4 місяці тому +4

    Many mid tier guilds rmt to fund sieges and to buy deeds for guild structures.

    • @andrewgrace8646
      @andrewgrace8646 4 місяці тому

      The top tier guilds seem to do so the most, sadly. Some of them don't even have to violate the rules anymore, because they've already done so in such an egregious manner in the past without punishment, that they're set for the rest of the game's duration.
      This appears to have been pretty intentional, and new development intel is constantly leaked both directly to specific players, but also as a whole by the dev team themselves (like when they gave out the new dungeon's location in the last PTR lol)

    • @andrewgrace8646
      @andrewgrace8646 4 місяці тому

      Given that I've been kicked out of 3 of the day-1, big ass guilds now, and all 3 of them within under 30 minutes of telling them I tried to sting operation some cheaters. Lemme give you a hint as to why this is the case; Literally everyone in this game that has anything significant is either RMT'ing, or taking silent advantage of some ass clown who does it by proxy for them. Even behaving honorably about that sort of thing will get to relegated to small guilds lol. THAT is how embedded RMT is into this extremely economically-centered game. Just saying you're anti-RMT and actively work against it, will get you booted from the power players guilds.

  • @kaspuj
    @kaspuj 4 місяці тому +4

    I would buy gold because I still have a life and sacrifice months of my life to buy something like ruber ring ~30k gold while others already level 100 veteran and controls the best farm spots

  • @ScipioAttilius
    @ScipioAttilius 4 місяці тому +2

    on a MAJOR SIDE NOTE... bet the star level system co-exist with the Mortal Exodus

  • @dephlection
    @dephlection 4 місяці тому +3

    StarVault should do what OSRS does and offer subscription tokens which can be sold. Subscription games are very inaccessible to most players, but at least players can pay for their own subscription by playing the game. It would also deter hackers if they can no longer be the ones selling gold for USD. RMT isn't going away and as long as mortal is skill based then you wont simply be able to use gold to win. I bet SV could really use that money for more developers or animators or unreal engine assets

    • @mrivan2626
      @mrivan2626 4 місяці тому +1

      Hell no.

    • @gi11otine
      @gi11otine 4 місяці тому +2

      It would just legitimize buying gold. Buying gold is bad for the any game.
      The Meta becomes buying gold instead of playing the game and farming.

    • @bighosnl
      @bighosnl 4 місяці тому

      @@gi11otinesadly that’s already the meta, all the Zerg’s RMT to some extend. Not everyone ofc but I’m sure there are people in almost every guild that RMT or considering it.

    • @zayzaymonz2785
      @zayzaymonz2785 4 місяці тому

      @@bighosnl I agree, Its already a RMT/Zerg meta. You RMT the initial kits, grab your zerg, and collect other peoples kits until you need to RMT again.

  • @HorsesArePeople2
    @HorsesArePeople2 4 місяці тому +2

    How do they even counter RMT? I don't understand how they can differentiate legitimate gold transactions and RMT

    • @MaltieHouse
      @MaltieHouse 4 місяці тому

      ReMove Trinkets. Everything else can be lost and thus is an investment. Without Trinkets, RMT exists, but it doesn't ruin the game. People buying gold is a non-starter. People do that in every game, but when you can pay for a huge advantage that you never lose, that's p2w RMT and GG.
      Sad MOpop is so soft they would not give up trinkets to have a game with more integrity.

  • @diopm8328
    @diopm8328 4 місяці тому +7

    Rmt is ruining a lot of games but i can also understand it. If you can substitute 10s or 100s of hours of robotic monoton work with 20-50 euros, one might consider doing it and focusing on more engaging gameplay.

  • @TheOriganalPoppit
    @TheOriganalPoppit 4 місяці тому +1

    As you say, there is always going to be RMT in multiplayer games, especially in MMOs. But to say starvault is without fault is to be a bit blind; the game is designed in such a way that it naturally encourages RMT. It likely is & should be assumed to be unintentional , but that doesn't change its existence.
    You have a full loot pvp game in which players can lock down content areas in such an extreme fashion that these areas become unaccessible to other players. Further, you then have relatively powerful items that drop from said areas that are items not lost on death. Of course RMT is going to pop up around it; especially in a game that generally does not respect the time of its players.
    Now that the game is subscription based (and in the pricey end of mmo subs too), they could probably curb a fair bit of RMT with subscription tokens, ie OSRS membership bonds. Much better for SV to make money instead of RMT sellers, & additional benefit of steadily hampering the profits of RMT sellers.

  • @hex6879
    @hex6879 4 місяці тому +1

    i'm waiting for companies to step in the middle and let the players to do it.

  • @jamesfett
    @jamesfett 4 місяці тому +3

    the problem is alot of the time its untracable or they use burner accounts that are not linked too their main, for example, if someone gets a stack of gold, goes grey in town, and have their alt loot it, then the alt sits on it for a few weeks, then they sell it, how would starvault trace it exactly? and the people who buy gold, how do they do it exactly? well i knew a few RMT idiots, and i know one method they do is they will use the auction house to actually transfer gold, for example the person might sell 1 leather for 10000 gold, and the RMT player just buys it, that way the person buying the gold actually dont ever meet the person doing the RMT, i think they can finess the sell orders too but not too sure how they do that, only heared about it
    also tienming been selling gold since necro launch, so over a year? glitching, exploiting, actually cheating, all reported to devs, often recorded video too, never anything happen to them, part of the reason i stopped playing tbh, and even if the devs did do somthing about it, they would be back on new accounts within the week anyways so what difference would any of it make
    only recently they patch teleporting pets into dungeon, only recently they stop being able to log off in dungeon (so i heared anyways, i dont actually play anymore) these changes are like a year too late though, and its not like the devs didnt know about it, i personally told them on MULTIPLE occasions and provided video of them doing it so their little peanut brains understand, i guess the devs at starvault maybe english not their first language, maybe they just stupid idk but it is what it is
    and low key, i think some GM's are corrupt, but your literally not allowed to talk about that, if you even mention that in game or in discord you will be hit with a fat mute, because thats what people with nothing to hide do, they silence people that question their actions, devs should never res pets, convince me otherwise (i dont know if its still a thing, but when i played you could message a GM and say "my pet is stuck" boom ur pet is now alive, we also reported this, it also kept happening, when we mention that GM's maybe corrupt, muted, so they either really stupid, or really corrupt, take your pick)

    • @WolfszeitYT
      @WolfszeitYT  4 місяці тому

      yeah your right the tracing makes it so hard to track them down

    • @nikalasnalter4431
      @nikalasnalter4431 4 місяці тому

      Fun shit no one get banned in Tianming for whole time we sit here. another wealking who cant beat razorback aha but all ppls need to work cos u get little upset. sheesh stop crying, that a indie MMORPG and no one help u with anything, spesialy if talking like that to GM kek. i speak with GMs many times and they help if im right, like after server drop and i die cos of it, i get res. Teleporting pets IS OKE !!! Log off in dungeon IS OKEY !!! Combat log IS NOT OKEY. but they cant tell u that. Get a grip man.

    • @anobodyproblem
      @anobodyproblem 4 місяці тому +3

      there are gms in tienming thats why they dont get banned and rules didnt get changed for over a year.

    • @anobodyproblem
      @anobodyproblem 4 місяці тому +1

      @@nikalasnalter4431 brother u do know that henrik himself called out tianming being one of the guilds getting caught in that big rmt circle jerk ban right? he said some of tianming guys got banned for rmt. u cant ever hide that.

    • @jamesfett
      @jamesfett 4 місяці тому

      @@nikalasnalter4431 everyone in the game knows tienming are RMT dog bro, you can deny it all you want, nobody camps a bridge 24/7 for over a year without being paid for it, if you did it for free thats almost more pathetic lets be honest, furthermore RIP most of your buildings at necro, shame the player base needs to do the GM's job for them

  • @deekin3005
    @deekin3005 4 місяці тому +2

    RMT is the only thing that keep most of MMO games alive. If you dont beleive it, look at BDO.

  • @andrewgrace8646
    @andrewgrace8646 4 місяці тому

    I mean... it's kind of hard to take punishing cheaters/RMTers seriously in Mortal, because there's been so many exploiters who've been excused so many times. There are... quite a few big-money guilds that are, or at least were known for having taken advantage of very serious exploits early on in the game, and the punishments were never transparent, or even... public? for the most part?
    I mean, I've literally never used anything extra, no macros, no anything, I don't even run a second monitor. At least a few times, I've mistaken duplicated items, 100% unintentionally, due to bugs. Obviously people exploiting integer overflows and packet injection stuff is doing something a bit more intentionally, but it's still kind of nerve-racking when it even occurs. I've seen people get banned for having bag ping/the wrong build...
    Why am I rambling about all of this? it's because nearly half of the major big guilds have exploited gold duping/item duping multiple times early on, and were never punished... their adversaries have been many times over when, typically, using their methods much later, publicly.
    I'll never cheat, I'll never run anything to make the game easier for me at all, actually... but the problems are both systemic (StarVault created the environment for the problem to grow) and persistent (arbitrarily punished by SV, less so when long-term investors and players do it, more so when nobodies do so)
    Not tryna be devil's advocate, but I've seen enough of this to know SV rarely gives a shit when someone cheats, nor do they patch out the issues in any sort of timely manner. I mean I made a video of them failing to punish someone for hate speech that's of an equal seriousness by US standards to RunKarni's. They banned RK for his "german N word" use almost instantly when he did it, in mid-combat... this guy was in Tindrem using the "US N word" for over 6 hours before he finally just got tired of saying it.
    They pick and choose when they want to do something about anything. Always.

  • @NightingaleRogue
    @NightingaleRogue 4 місяці тому +3

    Tianming its a problem, they RMT.

  • @ScipioAttilius
    @ScipioAttilius 4 місяці тому

    running the NFT systems would be viable for Starvault but downside is they would have the run it as bitcoisn and such and do a taxed % for there server processing while the players set the market based on the NTFs they have...
    as i no longer play this cause i cannot afford the sub... this objective alone dont work for me either lol.... BUT it allows them to set the stock and Bitcoins together to allow for a good flux in stock market pricing while also having ingame currency to use towards NFT OR membership options

  • @RomanSharapof
    @RomanSharapof 4 місяці тому +2

    Some players sell their gold to illegal sellers to pay for subscriptions
    Also, people don’t want to waste time on farming, they want to fight, these people can’t be blamed for anything, time is the most valuable resource in life and you can earn as much money as you want

    • @simonsn4996
      @simonsn4996 4 місяці тому +1

      They cant be blamed? Maybe they should play arena shooters/ extraction games if they only want to fight.Its an MMORPG foremost, not fantasy tarkov.

    • @RomanSharapof
      @RomanSharapof 4 місяці тому

      @@simonsn4996 Ahahahahaha great idea, what else should they do? Dude u
      Each person has their own interests, they themselves will decide where they are more interested, let the developers solve the problem since it causes a loss to their project

    • @simonsn4996
      @simonsn4996 4 місяці тому

      @@RomanSharapof An MMORPG is an MMORPG. Yeah everyone should play how they want to play WITHIN the rules of the game. Cant blame them for cheating is plain wrong. Just ban those "i cheat coz i want full loot pvp but no mmo-systems in this game ".Its pure entitledment-bullshit. If they just want fast full loot hardcore action, there's games that are just that and only that. Might be a better fit.

    • @RomanSharapof
      @RomanSharapof 4 місяці тому

      @@simonsn4996 Everyone can play the way they want, it’s their time and it’s up to them to decide how to use it, I’m not saying that this is good, it’s his decision to do this, if we don’t want to see them do this, then we need to improve the defense

  • @Phyzm1
    @Phyzm1 3 місяці тому +1

    Crazy how beautiful this game looks then you watch a pvp video and it looks like a dog shit everquest video from 20 years ago with stretched resolution that gives me a headache.

    • @WolfszeitYT
      @WolfszeitYT  3 місяці тому +1

      Sadly alot of people playing with the stretched resolution because of the small pvp advantage

  • @babybear9527
    @babybear9527 4 місяці тому +1

    imagine as a mmo,against rmt😂that's why mo2 have smallest playerbase

  • @MrFangsea
    @MrFangsea 4 місяці тому

    Would you tag a video if I created a fake account. Bought gold. Tracked who in game sent me the gold. So you can bring to light which group does RMT and tag it for SV to take care of. Your also asking me to throw away the account as SV will ban my account or will the account be safe in the intrest of exposing RMT sellers?

    • @WolfszeitYT
      @WolfszeitYT  4 місяці тому

      good question i dont know

    • @MrFangsea
      @MrFangsea 4 місяці тому

      @@WolfszeitYT harsh words in your video for RMT. The public offers to do something and you don't know. That tells how you think a real investigation of RMT will go.

    • @Ethan-fz6tp
      @Ethan-fz6tp 4 місяці тому

      @@MrFangsea the concern is that he could get in trouble for even supporting the buying/selling of gold even in a journalistic way. it would definitely be enlightening. this happened with tarkov and cheaters, but it also publicized the cheats for more people and it resulted in trouble for the youtuber themselves because of openly using cheats regardless of the reasoning. its a mixed bag on what is right, but it most certainly works in making a developer extremely focused on reducing the use of RMT.

  • @longballoon8287
    @longballoon8287 4 місяці тому +1

    If the trinkets were drop on death (could be looted from player bodies) similar to Darkfall. There would be 4.3 million reasons for people to stop buying gold.

  • @Juicyheadeyes
    @Juicyheadeyes 4 місяці тому +1

    womp womp

  • @sasori720
    @sasori720 4 місяці тому +1

    "Problemetrically"

  • @JoshuaScott-h4r
    @JoshuaScott-h4r 4 місяці тому

    U say if someone finds a topaz ring they rmt. Ur crazy bro I find them in game all the time. Never rmt shit just gotta farm the game and use commone sence to get trinket drops

    • @WolfszeitYT
      @WolfszeitYT  4 місяці тому +3

      No im not saying that you rmt when you find a topaz ring. But sometimes when people are poor and than 2 days later they have a alot of wealth without finding a topaz ring or something and sold it. Than its suspiious where the wealth was coming so quick. XD

  • @SumOfSeveralEquations
    @SumOfSeveralEquations 4 місяці тому +1

    Its like lying to yourself, the people are the problem. STOP BUYING!

    • @nikalasnalter4431
      @nikalasnalter4431 4 місяці тому

      That single MMORPG game in the world with devs, that have BALLS to make it. any other mmo just dead with 1k online, Mortal is alive and devs get the money and can make content. u can cry, scream in to the void, write in chats. but that all is useless, ppls who like the game, dont care about shit like RMT or small bugs. RMT cant give u 100% win rate if u looser. u die in u oghm set even faster then without

    • @behelitruler9191
      @behelitruler9191 4 місяці тому

      @@nikalasnalter4431 most people find RMT distasteful, but you're missing the point that big RMT guilds like Karni and tianming are using Dupe bugs and other glitches as well as blocking off high value areas at all hours of the day because it is their job. at the end of the day, as long as there is a demand for RMT, guilds like this will keep using exploits to the detriment of the average and hardcore players.

  • @Nick-wz1sg
    @Nick-wz1sg 4 місяці тому +1

    snitches get stiches

  • @pocketsmcgee7088
    @pocketsmcgee7088 4 місяці тому +2

    Why it’s worse in MO duping is easy, packet injection is easy, because it is mostly client side. And SVs code is bubble gum and toothpicks. It’s easy to hack.

  • @MrShadowsteps
    @MrShadowsteps 4 місяці тому +2

    Mortal Online is Gay!!!

  • @cyr4062
    @cyr4062 4 місяці тому

    i heard that your guild are one of those...you have people that exploid since day one, and hendrik dont care...
    so you are on of those that dont wanne see any fullwhipe, fullwhipe would whipe the situation with the goldsellers..but you dont like too

  • @VonBrachsenbruegge
    @VonBrachsenbruegge 4 місяці тому +1

    I don't understand how, after years of speaking English, you're simply not getting any better at all.

    • @WolfszeitYT
      @WolfszeitYT  4 місяці тому

      XD ok, do you mean in term of pronaunciation or of grammer or of both or in general?

    • @VonBrachsenbruegge
      @VonBrachsenbruegge 4 місяці тому +1

      @@WolfszeitYT Both.. xD But hey.. its okay. I just noticed it..

    • @WolfszeitYT
      @WolfszeitYT  4 місяці тому

      @@VonBrachsenbruegge OK i will try to structure it more maybe its than more fluent im sry. I will try to make it better xD party hart

    • @WolfszeitYT
      @WolfszeitYT  4 місяці тому

      @@VonBrachsenbruegge and thanks for the honest feedback i love it :)

    • @VonBrachsenbruegge
      @VonBrachsenbruegge 4 місяці тому +1

      @@WolfszeitYT Dude.. don't take it seriously. Everyone here is used to it.. 😆 It wouldn't be Wolfszeit if you'd be different. We already spoke about that in Discord almost two years ago.. and we came to the same conclusion.

  • @MrShadowsteps
    @MrShadowsteps 4 місяці тому +1

    Fully 1000% Gay