@@AnimeSunglassesAmerica has come a long way on the issue of racism but still there's work to be done. I don't think it helps to claim nothing has changed, that simply fills people with despair.
Moreover, this speech made July 4, 1852. While slavery was still legal in the US, and on the day the US celebrated its freedom. The irony is overwhelming. Source: Wonderful Adventures of Mrs. Seacole in Many Lands, by Mary Seattle (London: James Blackwood), 1857, p. 48.
Reminds me of Fredrick Douglas’s speech “What, To a Slave, Is the Fourth of July”, which he actually also delivered for July 4th celebrations on the 5th in 1852! Give it a read if you get a chance
@@calliopeshif7581 I think that I can without violating the rules here. MAGA (pronounced like the first two syllables in “magazine”) is an acronym for “Make America Great Again.” This is a slogan used by Donald Trump and his supporters in his bid for the White House.
@@mrpsclas oh, yeah, I'm perfectly aware. I just didn't understand whether your comment was a joke and I missed the punchline? Or if there was some other point I missed? Plus now that you've edited it, I can't exactly remember the original wording 😅 (I'm not a MAGA defender btw, just genuinely confused about your original comment)
Mary Seacole is frequently very funny. I love when she saw the building for a proposed hospital was without a roof, she included 'good ventilation' as one of the positives.
I had a fabulous nursing instructor in my university who read that to us! She was one of our community health instructors and it started our talk on race.
In October, 2023, the UK's Royal Mint came out with commemorative coins in her honor, which is where I first learned of her. During the Crimean War, Seacole went to London to volunteer as a nurse. Although the Army needed skilled medical personnel, both the British War Office and Florence Nightingale, tasked with coordinating nursing efforts, rejected her services. Undeterred, Seacole travelled to Crimea built a “British Hotel” canteen where she served meals to the troops, provided respite to the sick, and ran a trading post. She also nursed cholera victims in Panama. A very interesting person.
Seacole was not rejected by Nightingale or anyone else, as she never applied to nurse in the Crimes. She was, apparently, a kind and generous person, but she was a businesswoman,who went to the Crimea to make money She never spent a single day of her life as a nurse. D
My daughters were in a school house named after Mary Seacole. I recall it being stated that the name was chosen because Seacole had a more positive impact on soldiers in the Crimean war than her more famous counterpart.
I wish i could like this 100k times!!! What a brilliant impromptu speech, not only a notable nurse but a brilliant and hilarious orator. 🥂🥂🥂to you, Ms Seacole!
Fantastic. To tell the truth, when I come across racism in the UK it's generally of this kind. Cloaked in good will, but needlessly insulting. Mary did well to answer it the same way. 👏 👏
We refer to this as "casual racism" in the American midwest. Tolerance for it mainly varies on age. Most (MOST) parties are often unaware they made such a mistake as that was the society of their time. Most (MOST) are still decent people despite an antiquedated notion or two.
'Needlessly insulting' is how we treat our friends, so that is reading racism where it didn't exist. UK racists would have been more obviously insulting. She roasted these Americans to their faces at a time when slavery still existed there, and on 4th July no less. Good on her,
@@user-pd5vl4lr5p I don't understand. As a black person, I don't find it kind or friendly when you think I should be honoured by telling me that it would be better if my skin colour was white. Mary found it insulting and so do I. You saying we shouldn't be like that isn't very nice. I love the colour of my skin that I was born with, friend.
You have totally misunderstood what I said. I agreed with Mary totally. You mentioned 'friendly insults'in Britain, which is common banter in the UK. You didn't mention someone saying something about your skin colour in the same way as it was said to Mary, which I would find hard to believe, but you would have the absolute right to tell them to get lost if, if that happened.
@@user-pd5vl4lr5p Thank you for clarifying that was kind. I misunderstood. For me, lot of the time that kind of rudness is ignored because it's ill-advised ignorance not meaning to hurt. 🙏
I ❤ Mary Seacole. Nobody's fool and one of the most stubborn and courageous, kick ass ladies to ever grace a battle field or history book! Go on, try and tell her she can't do a thing.... I dare you!
This kind of reminds of of Dr. James Barry, an Irish trans man (no, I am not joking. Look it up) who travelled around the British empire as a military doctor and pushed through many reforms purely because he was so argumentative, which led to transfers, promotions and demotions. Bloody legend.
@@edelweiss7928 I highly recommend looking up the history of Dr James Barry. It's actually quite fascinating and you may learn something you didn't know before.
Similar to the freed slave who was 'invited' back to the farm he basically ran as a slave because it was in decline in his absence. Look it up if you don't know.
@@reginabillottiYes, that's from the series "Letters Live," of staged readings by notable people of important and interesting letters. They have a UA-cam channel, and many of the letters are well worth hearing read.
@@bjrnryrvik3498 I just watched this, definitely worth the watch. A self-made nurse/businesswoman who travelled the world helping soldiers and sickly, battled cholera and racism at their peaks. She was prideful but humble, truly remarkable woman.
"Here's to you being part white!" "And here's to you becoming less racist!" This has officially become the fourth horseman of banger historical replies, alongside, "If," "Nuts," and Tolkien's response to a German publishing house wanting to publish The Hobbit in German and asking if he, a notable linguistics freak, was an Aryan
🔥 😂 👏 "to the general reformation of American manners". Boom! yes, ma'am. Please, we're a little slow over the pond here, and some of us still need to learn that lesson.
Because a surprising ampunt of people don't know: "Yaller" obviously means "Yellow", which is archaic slang for being Black-White Biracial. For further cringe, research the song "The Yellow Rose of Texas", which my High School Sophomore English teacher (who was a pretty horrible person to begin with), played for our class multiple times, and listened to while closing her eyes with a big enthusiastic smile on her face. And this was 2007.
Referring to a heroine by their skin colour isn’t offensive (cf. Snow White) and calling Mary Seacole yellow/yaller isn’t offensive in the vernacular of that time. What’s offensive is wishing she wasn’t mixed race, or recommending bleach to make her skin tone acceptable for their society. Mentioning race isn’t usually bad in and of itself. It’s everything else that the person was saying that was grossly offensive. Also, I don’t know the lyrics of The Yellow Rose of Texas, but I understood it to be about a heroine of Texas and it seems celebratory not derogatory.
Mixed race people are sometimes referred to as Yellow or Red in the Caribbean too. Such as the albino Jamaican vocalist Yellowman. They say Redbone in parts of America to refer to mixed race people or "light skinned black" as they say. I also remember an old Leadbelly song from the 1930s called Yellow Gal
Good on her to not let them put her down like that. I remember Mary Seacole from Doctor Who. She was in that 13th Doctor episode where the Sontarans invaded the Crimea. She was pretty awesome.
Really puts into stark relief what was considered "progressive" a few centuries ago. Not that I haven't heard of modern progressives being nearly as cringe as they fall over themselves to demonstrate how non-racist they are. Recommended reading: "How To Be Black" by Onion writer Baratunde Thurston.
British-Jamaican. As in 'she wasn't just part of a British colony, her dad was actively in the British army, and she died in London'. I get that almost all history here is British in nature, but considering she's talking to Americans here it might be worth clarifying for your American audience who forget that other countries exist sometimes. Seacole is very cool, I remember learning about her in school!
@@m1lst3r89 well, it’s a truism, and then all Americans think that way, but the same can be said that people from other places. It gets a hold after a while -/sorry.
I was scared by the title, “put down” means something else to me when we are talking about a battlefield nurse among soldiers during the brutal crimean war…
She didnt say "anyone", it was another word. And the form of that words was insulting even then. The neutral form of the time had fewer letters and ended on -roes, not -gers.
And on that day they all asked the nurse to treat them for their burns. And the nurse said... No.
And she refused to treat their cuts from her sharp wit.
“Respected by those whose respect a value” slam dunk damn
With plausible deniability too!
*whose respect I
In Canada: "SHE SCORES!!!!!"
@@dumoulin11Yes she's made three points and has won the championship.
She was an extremely intelligent and talented woman. And boy could she dish!
"I drink to you and the general reformation of American manners."
... When your toast is flame broiled!
Well obviously it didn't work as American manners haven't improved to this day.
It's a brilliant response
@@SirAntoniousBlock I fear you may be underestimating how bad they used to be. Not that the improvement is massive, necessarily.
@@AnimeSunglassesAmerica has come a long way on the issue of racism but still there's work to be done. I don't think it helps to claim nothing has changed, that simply fills people with despair.
@@hairyairey Better said than I did, thank you.
She ate and left 👏 no 👏 crumbs 👏 for Mary Seacole, cheers! 🥂
My friend just be careful next time with punctuations, as that can read two ways.
@@Abrahamlatouche dude shush
Those of culture understood what the op was going to say just from the first 2 words
@@Abrahamlatouche how can this be misconstrued? I genuinely can't imagine.
Moreover, this speech made July 4, 1852. While slavery was still legal in the US, and on the day the US celebrated its freedom. The irony is overwhelming.
Source: Wonderful Adventures of Mrs. Seacole in Many Lands, by Mary Seattle (London: James Blackwood), 1857, p. 48.
Reminds me of Fredrick Douglas’s speech “What, To a Slave, Is the Fourth of July”, which he actually also delivered for July 4th celebrations on the 5th in 1852! Give it a read if you get a chance
Thank you for the book referral... off to some of my favorite haunts...old book peddlers.
If there were mics in the mid-Victorian period, she just dropped one.
Maybe she used a megaphone?
She dropped a Mike, He went down in embarrassment after that
Sounds like the American somehow came across a MAGAphone.
@@mrpsclashuh? Sorry, I'm having trouble understanding your comment! Could you clarify what you mean?
@@calliopeshif7581 I think that I can without violating the rules here. MAGA (pronounced like the first two syllables in “magazine”) is an acronym for “Make America Great Again.” This is a slogan used by Donald Trump and his supporters in his bid for the White House.
@@mrpsclas oh, yeah, I'm perfectly aware. I just didn't understand whether your comment was a joke and I missed the punchline? Or if there was some other point I missed? Plus now that you've edited it, I can't exactly remember the original wording 😅
(I'm not a MAGA defender btw, just genuinely confused about your original comment)
Mary Seacole is frequently very funny. I love when she saw the building for a proposed hospital was without a roof, she included 'good ventilation' as one of the positives.
Hahahaha I love people like that
Okay, I'm curious, why did they not include a roof?
@@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye It had fallen off
@@GrubStLodger Well, that's understandable. Thanks for the reply, and have a good day/night/year.
Good onya Mary!! Well said. When I was in London I was pleased to visit Soho Square and see her house, which is marked by a blue plaque.
I had a fabulous nursing instructor in my university who read that to us! She was one of our community health instructors and it started our talk on race.
My jaw dropped when I realised he was not talking about her in her absence, but introducing her to his peers
One of the politest "Up Yours" I've ever heard :-)
In October, 2023, the UK's Royal Mint came out with commemorative coins in her honor, which is where I first learned of her. During the Crimean War, Seacole went to London to volunteer as a nurse. Although the Army needed skilled medical personnel, both the British War Office and Florence Nightingale, tasked with coordinating nursing efforts, rejected her services. Undeterred, Seacole travelled to Crimea built a “British Hotel” canteen where she served meals to the troops, provided respite to the sick, and ran a trading post. She also nursed cholera victims in Panama. A very interesting person.
I do hope the coin was available in yellow gold, or at least brass or bronze.
@@thomaswilliams2273as opposed to?
Seacole was not rejected by Nightingale or anyone else, as she never applied to nurse in the Crimes. She was, apparently, a kind and generous person, but she was a businesswoman,who went to the Crimea to make money
She never spent a single day of her life as a nurse. D
Judging by the specimens I have met here, and elsewhere I don't think I shall lose much by being excluded from it. Damn
"The general reformation of American manners..." is a toast that would drown a planet before it is ever reconciled or realized.
we're a work in progress. unfortunately, there's a lot of progress left to go
I doubt the message arrived as intended. But that's the thing with idiots: If they were curable, they'd not be idiots.
@@edelweiss7928 "Racist you ar? Off you must f*ck!"
~Master Yoda
My daughters were in a school house named after Mary Seacole. I recall it being stated that the name was chosen because Seacole had a more positive impact on soldiers in the Crimean war than her more famous counterpart.
She may not be a white man, but she is an icon, she is a legend and she is the moment. Much more than any of those “specimens”.
Have you actually checked what she did? It might surprise you that this icon is not quite as saintly as some would have you believe.
I wish i could like this 100k times!!! What a brilliant impromptu speech, not only a notable nurse but a brilliant and hilarious orator. 🥂🥂🥂to you, Ms Seacole!
Fantastic. To tell the truth, when I come across racism in the UK it's generally of this kind. Cloaked in good will, but needlessly insulting. Mary did well to answer it the same way. 👏 👏
We refer to this as "casual racism" in the American midwest. Tolerance for it mainly varies on age. Most (MOST) parties are often unaware they made such a mistake as that was the society of their time. Most (MOST) are still decent people despite an antiquedated notion or two.
'Needlessly insulting' is how we treat our friends, so that is reading racism where it didn't exist. UK racists would have been more obviously insulting. She roasted these Americans to their faces at a time when slavery still existed there, and on 4th July no less. Good on her,
@@user-pd5vl4lr5p I don't understand. As a black person, I don't find it kind or friendly when you think I should be honoured by telling me that it would be better if my skin colour was white. Mary found it insulting and so do I. You saying we shouldn't be like that isn't very nice. I love the colour of my skin that I was born with, friend.
You have totally misunderstood what I said. I agreed with Mary totally. You mentioned 'friendly insults'in Britain, which is common banter in the UK. You didn't mention someone saying something about your skin colour in the same way as it was said to Mary, which I would find hard to believe, but you would have the absolute right to tell them to get lost if, if that happened.
@@user-pd5vl4lr5p Thank you for clarifying that was kind. I misunderstood. For me, lot of the time that kind of rudness is ignored because it's ill-advised ignorance not meaning to hurt. 🙏
And that’s a wrap people!!! 🔥🙏🏿👌🏿
She sounds like the first ever, "For me to be offended I must first value your opinion."
(were the real glasses too tickly while filming? :p)
Now that was excellent shade, brava nurse Seacole!
I ❤ Mary Seacole. Nobody's fool and one of the most stubborn and courageous, kick ass ladies to ever grace a battle field or history book! Go on, try and tell her she can't do a thing.... I dare you!
This speech needs a bigger audience. 🥇🏆
In the immortal words of St Uncle George Takei:
Oooooooooh myyyyyyyyyyyy!
Yessss!
perfection
Oof that original toast... I think i cringed myself into a pretzel
@@edelweiss7928 Found the time traveler.
This is one of my favourite Mary Seacole stories 😁😁😁😁😁
What a badass! Being able to think on her feet like that? Of course she's a nurse.
Boom! QUILL DROP! 🎤 💧
She was a nurse in her profession but damn she knew how to cook
Underrated comment 😂
Nearly 200 years later, the shade persists, as it should.
This kind of reminds of of Dr. James Barry, an Irish trans man (no, I am not joking. Look it up) who travelled around the British empire as a military doctor and pushed through many reforms purely because he was so argumentative, which led to transfers, promotions and demotions. Bloody legend.
There were no trans people then.
@@edelweiss7928 I highly recommend looking up the history of Dr James Barry. It's actually quite fascinating and you may learn something you didn't know before.
He didn't possibly exist back then.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Barry_(surgeon) Sure did! @@m1lst3r89
@@m1lst3r89 I don't know why you think he couldn't have existed, but a quick Google search will show you that he did.
"...to you and the general reformation of your manners."
Here, here, Aunty Seacole!!! 👍♥️🔥💯😂
As an American, all I can say is . . . I'm sorry.
Good for her!
More of this lady. She sounds badass
Perfect (also took me a while to realise those glasses were a filter)
Similar to the freed slave who was 'invited' back to the farm he basically ran as a slave because it was in decline in his absence. Look it up if you don't know.
His name is Jordan/Jourdon Anderson for those who want a name.
If it's the same letter I'm thinking of there's a video of a major actor (Lawrence Fishburne, maybe?) reading that letter.
@@reginabillottiYes, that's from the series "Letters Live," of staged readings by notable people of important and interesting letters. They have a UA-cam channel, and many of the letters are well worth hearing read.
It is, indeed, Fishburne. @@reginabillotti
Had to come back and watch this again. How I'd love to go back and meet this person.
God, that was beautifully said 🤌
Love her so much! Mary Seacole, you didn't miss much!
That’s brilliant! How to turn it around in such an articulate and classy way
What's the full name of the book? I liked how politely insulting they spoke. Would love to know more about Ms Mary and her life.
Extra History did a short series on her. ua-cam.com/video/xT9BTuBtCJs/v-deo.html
Try "Wonderful Adventures of Mrs. Seacole in Many Lands" (published in 1857)
@@bjrnryrvik3498 I just watched this, definitely worth the watch. A self-made nurse/businesswoman who travelled the world helping soldiers and sickly, battled cholera and racism at their peaks. She was prideful but humble, truly remarkable woman.
@@PastPresented will look for it, thank you.
Source: Wonderful Adventures of Mrs. Seacole in Many Lands, by Mary Seattle (London: James Blackwood), 1857, p. 48.
Perfect. Absolutely perfect.
Daaaaamn! She left no survivors
There needs to be a movie!!
She's a better and kinder sharped tounged lass than I could ever hope to be.
"Here's to you being part white!"
"And here's to you becoming less racist!"
This has officially become the fourth horseman of banger historical replies, alongside, "If," "Nuts," and Tolkien's response to a German publishing house wanting to publish The Hobbit in German and asking if he, a notable linguistics freak, was an Aryan
She politely read them for filth.
See also "I've been called worse by better people "
It's a sad gap in my (American) education that I'd never heard of her prior to that one episode of Doctor Who.
She's a goddamn queen and always has been. Good read, JD.
🔥 😂 👏 "to the general reformation of American manners". Boom! yes, ma'am. Please, we're a little slow over the pond here, and some of us still need to learn that lesson.
BOOM
Absolute queen.
Right on.
Because a surprising ampunt of people don't know: "Yaller" obviously means "Yellow", which is archaic slang for being Black-White Biracial.
For further cringe, research the song "The Yellow Rose of Texas", which my High School Sophomore English teacher (who was a pretty horrible person to begin with), played for our class multiple times, and listened to while closing her eyes with a big enthusiastic smile on her face. And this was 2007.
Yikes
Referring to a heroine by their skin colour isn’t offensive (cf. Snow White) and calling Mary Seacole yellow/yaller isn’t offensive in the vernacular of that time.
What’s offensive is wishing she wasn’t mixed race, or recommending bleach to make her skin tone acceptable for their society.
Mentioning race isn’t usually bad in and of itself. It’s everything else that the person was saying that was grossly offensive.
Also, I don’t know the lyrics of The Yellow Rose of Texas, but I understood it to be about a heroine of Texas and it seems celebratory not derogatory.
Mixed race people are sometimes referred to as Yellow or Red in the Caribbean too. Such as the albino Jamaican vocalist Yellowman.
They say Redbone in parts of America to refer to mixed race people or "light skinned black" as they say. I also remember an old Leadbelly song from the 1930s called Yellow Gal
Wow, I’ve heard OF the song, and just thought it was about a yellow flower. Looking up now
Oof. Well put, I love it! One of the finest put downs ever shared in polite company! 💜👾💜
Her eloquence made the response infinitely better
Absolutely savage!👍👏
Good on her to not let them put her down like that.
I remember Mary Seacole from Doctor Who. She was in that 13th Doctor episode where the Sontarans invaded the Crimea. She was pretty awesome.
Bravo Mary Seacole, a text book example of not only thinking on your feet but by her retort nailing it in the process; a rare skill indeed.
a true hero and a complete savage lol
Manners maketh the...man that's an epic burn!
🇯🇲🇯🇲
And they probably laughed it off thinking that was funny.
Ow. Just 'ow'. 😊
The original mic drop!
Bro thought he was complimenting her💀🤡💀
Damn! That's a third degree burn right there!
What a Girlboss! We stan!
Brava, Ms. Seacole! I wish I could think on my feet like that!!
Really puts into stark relief what was considered "progressive" a few centuries ago. Not that I haven't heard of modern progressives being nearly as cringe as they fall over themselves to demonstrate how non-racist they are. Recommended reading: "How To Be Black" by Onion writer Baratunde Thurston.
r/AtetheOnion
That's why I subscribed to your channel, you're amazing girl❤❤❤
British-Jamaican. As in 'she wasn't just part of a British colony, her dad was actively in the British army, and she died in London'.
I get that almost all history here is British in nature, but considering she's talking to Americans here it might be worth clarifying for your American audience who forget that other countries exist sometimes.
Seacole is very cool, I remember learning about her in school!
She was Jamaican. You cannot be British and Jamaican.
@@m1lst3r89 Evidently you know the nationality of all of J’s audience?
@@mesechabe what that has to do with what I said?
@@m1lst3r89 well, it’s a truism, and then all Americans think that way, but the same can be said that people from other places. It gets a hold after a while -/sorry.
@@m1lst3r89 oh 0 I’m sorry, really, I intended that for the comment at the top- sorry again!
To the general reformation of American manners! 🥂🙌
Oh bravo!
Nurse Seacole would have her work cut out for her in these depraved contemporary times.
Dishing out comebacks with class. I like it!
i can hear the teeth chipping from all the gritting in her voice
I wish I had that kind of wit and spunk.
I was scared by the title, “put down” means something else to me when we are talking about a battlefield nurse among soldiers during the brutal crimean war…
OMG, I love her! three cheers for nurse Mary Seacole! I wonder if she could be made a character in a future series on BBC's Call the Midwife? 😊🧡💯
Boss.
Mary Seacole was bloody incredible
HEAR, HEAR!
Hooray for Mary Seacole! ❤
Absolute queen 👑
Whomever she was she sounds amazing!
Brilliantly done!
what a class act 👏👏🏆
Wow, I love that this exchange was recorded!
Thank you. Brilliant. 😊
That was.... a lot.
Mary Seacole. Brilliant. Read her book if you can.
Hear that mic hit the stage through the silence.
Mic drop for Mrs. Seacole 🎤
While there is plenty of BS about her as well, she was no fool or pushover!
She didnt say "anyone", it was another word. And the form of that words was insulting even then. The neutral form of the time had fewer letters and ended on -roes, not -gers.
That's just 🔥