It's how he spoke in the books. That was pretty much the norm for young men of his class in that time frame. And Sayers knew that quite well. Mind you, Ian Carmichael is very much older than the Peter Wimsey in the books.
Look out for the beautiful examples of Art Nouveau design in the style of Scotish artist Charles Rennie Mackintosh that can be seen during the series, especially in some of the interiors...doors, fireplace, window, balcony handrail etc.
@@cruisepaigeActually, it’s the other way around. The first Jeeves and Wooster story was published in 1915; Lord Peter Wimsey did not appear until 1923. In at least a couple of the Wimsey books, there are sly comments about Wimsey and Bunter being like Wooster and Jeeves, indicating that Dorothy Sayers knew the Jeeves stories, and acknowledged their influence. There are similar mentions of Sherlock Holmes.
MON 6 MARCH 2023 Lord Peter whimsy Thanks for this series it makes my brain think. Clear out the mind fog watching this series on my smart phone you tube is the best of the best better for downloading almost any films tv series available countless audio books to download . Better then net flix virgin media sky etc.
Wimsey's piano choices are interesting - Bach, Chopin, and around 34:00 either Ravel or Debussy - and then right into the "Italian Concerto" - my favorite Bach! Wonder who made the musical choices . . . .
Second that! I especially like all the humour in this particular story, I've been chuckling ever since part 1. That bit at the police station is hilarious (starts at 7:08). Poor Inspector MacPherson!
...and the delightful quoting of Shakespeare from MacBeth! One should always quote Shakespeare!! Note the only slightly veiled reference from dialogue in the Petherbridge series, specifically "Gaudy Night" and specifically referring to Aristotle rather than Shakespeare. Would not be my preference.
It is effective because many people have let their guard down at that time ... after seeing the back of the inquisitive inspector in charge of the case.
at 27:05 Wimsey looks affectionately at the girl. I think it is the actor recognizing a small flub in the young actress and knowing she has great potential he looks fonder. So dear!
@@mfjdv2020 she's affected. A girl like that would have been considered a scandalous Kardashian type, or at least trying very hard to be. I thought the actress did a fine job of portraying a type that's been lost to history.
@@texasred2702 I agree. She was a young girl trying to act older -- not an unknown phenomenon, especially when faced with an attractive older man! Of course she is very naive, and essentially innocent -- she's all talk. Lady Rose in Downton is a variation of the type. It's teenage rebellion of a sort, bucking at the restrictions placed upon them.
29:52 After just screaming (to her) “Don’t touch lass!” & all the while she was wearing 🧤- next the policeman takes the item, holds it & wait for Wimsey to REMOVE his gloves 🧤 before handing over that particular item 😂 - I’m waiting for the police 👮♀️ to go down for mishandling evidence.
No serious bible student would suggest that there is anything queer about II Samuel 1:26. Even though Jonathan knew that David would eventually have the crown; Jonathan was ever loyal to David. There were several times where Jonathan could have ratted David out..
I loved the outrage of David Rintoul's character. Be suspected of murder. vs. Be thought not just a greasy gigolo, but a greasy gigolo with NO TASTE. He doesn't want to be thought a greasy gigolo with such want of standards. A painting gigolo should have taste! Doesn't want that stain on his prospects. Character be damned. Think Gauguin - who made such a career out of abusing and infecting the beautiful and guileless. I'd have been 100% sympathetic to Rintoul's character if he'd have helped the widow to have some later life fun. Yes, she was unbearable to listen to. But - well, let's just say, I don't think it was accidental that the "beautiful" woman was always weaving and spinning - the REAL man eating creature was that Mackintosh mad one. She's even described as "sucking the life" out of her victim. The widow has some love of life left in her. Good for her. The murder "mystery" is all a matter of cross referencing timetables. More trainspotting than detecting. Though that's not meant as a criticism. All those lovely unBeechinged branch lines. One could weep. The real meat is, of course, the characters. The married couple who claim their marriage is strong because they allow each other "freedom", both of whom turn out to be profoundly jealous and really rather nasty. The successful painter whose head servants describe their domestic set-up as being "like a family". Yup, an unkind, controlling, gas lighting, lying, cruel family. They're right...just like a real family. The locals, Scottish locals, who make money from the English tourist incomers, and can't stand them. That's 100% correct in two ways. I've an American relative, who, when he traveled from Ireland to Scotland, said that he really enjoyed Scotland, as people there were too busy hating the English to get around to hating Americans. Plus, anyone who has ever lived in a place that has a tourism economy, will recognize the loathing that locals have for their source livelihood. Sayers did all that stuff so well, and with affection and dry humour, but never blind to reality.. It's one of the reasons I liked Gaudy Night so much. She lived in the academic world, but she didn't let it off the hook. She pointed out the cruelty in the intellectual and social snobbery, the deliberate, relished cruelty. My daughter is currently at uni and she describes very well that world of difference between professors who can critique students' work in a manner which encourages and improves them and their work, and professors who just want to flex & inflate their own egos and do so by humiliating and crushing those young people they're meant to be enlightening and guiding. Sayers was good at seeing the dark and light and not being overly judgmental. That's a real quality when writing about murders.
Peter's car is beautiful, but how on earth can anyone drive anything like that? With that huge long bonnet and no power steering either. And the rear part of the car's almost as long as the bonnet!
Interesting that the Bentley is maroon; I've only ever seen the 'teens and 'twenties cars in British racing green. I ran into a flock of them (I should say encountered!) several years in the wilds of my home state, mostly of the vintage of LPW's, and all in green . . . except for a one-off late-model with power everything driven by a member of the club who was no longer strong enough to manage one of the Blowers. All (except the recent model) were drop-tops, and all tops were down - bracing in late October or early November. Wotta sight! I'll never forget it!
Sayer was not only revelling in the satirical representation of English Society but was not averse to taking a swipe at contemporary and popular authors of her time. Wilkey Collins was a novelist who wrote Crime Fiction (24:53) who Sayer probably did not respect. Haha.
What are you talking about? Sayers wrote crime fiction herself and she greatly admired Wilkie Collins and spent a lot of time writing a biography of him....
At best Bunter is in a "bromance" with Lord Peter ... but his first "love" would be his PRIDE in BEING RATHER GOOD AT HIS JOB! The amount of skills he has is rather amazing ... camerawork, painting, the usual FULL knowledge of food and drink and all the domestic skills too ... while having sharp eyes almost like Sherlock Holmes.
@@glen7318 That is mentioned throughout the books. There's a reference in The Nine Tailors to some young servant who caught Bunter's eye and Peter says she is too young for him, to which Bunter wistfully concurs.
Extraordinary attitudes in those days, if the poor widow lady had such difficulty in revealing a perfectly natural circumstance. Nowadays nobody would think anything of it.
Nowadays we are informed of far too much stuff we DON'T want or need to hear instead AND - due to the lack of honour/consequences - people lie a lot. Just look at the media or politicians.
Its not that extraordinary, people did have sexual affairs outside marriage but they kept them discreet... Look at the Duke of Denver's keeping silent about his affair with the farmer's wife...... He did not wnat to damage her reputation as her husband would problaby slit her throat for her if he found out....
I generally like all the performances in this film, even the slightly hammy ones... but bloody hell, the actress playing Mrs Farran is really jarring. Like she thinks she's in a solo performance
@@st0rmforce She's meant to be an unappealing person: pretentious, affected, prideful. "Our pale Pre-Raphaelite ghost...not our cup of tea!" She is jealous of her husband's friendship with Henry Strachan, which is just the post-pulic-school sort of devoted friendship that seems to have gone out of fashion. She demanded total worship of herself. (Rather puts me in mind of the Duchess of Netflix...)
Thank you for these! I'm really enjoying them in our world gone mad! xx
Love the way Wimsey drops his "gs" and in other episodes he actually uses the contraction "ain't"!
Trendy talk. He died that what? At the end of sentences. Today the kids would say he has “rizz.”
Son of a duke, public school education, born 1890 -- Wimsey's style of speech is well suited to his station.
It's how he spoke in the books. That was pretty much the norm for young men of his class in that time frame. And Sayers knew that quite well.
Mind you, Ian Carmichael is very much older than the Peter Wimsey in the books.
Look out for the beautiful examples of Art Nouveau design in the style of Scotish artist Charles Rennie Mackintosh that can be seen during the series, especially in some of the interiors...doors, fireplace, window, balcony handrail etc.
Bunteris indeed a hero, trying to keep his service to such high standard when they are renting in a situation without inside running water.
Bunter is a superhero. He knows everything, and can do anything.
He’s an early model of Jeeves.
@@cruisepaigeActually, it’s the other way around. The first Jeeves and Wooster story was published in 1915; Lord Peter Wimsey did not appear until 1923. In at least a couple of the Wimsey books, there are sly comments about Wimsey and Bunter being like Wooster and Jeeves, indicating that Dorothy Sayers knew the Jeeves stories, and acknowledged their influence. There are similar mentions of Sherlock Holmes.
I love the comrades between Lord Peter and Bunter.
I like how Lord Wimsey keeps making Alice in Wonderland references. Ha. Bit funny. Love this. Ms. Sayers sure puts twists in her tails. Ha.
thanks for posting.
MON 6 MARCH 2023 Lord Peter whimsy Thanks for this series it makes my brain think. Clear out the mind fog watching this series on my smart phone you tube is the best of the best better for downloading almost any films tv series available countless audio books to download . Better then net flix virgin media sky etc.
Wimsey's piano choices are interesting - Bach, Chopin, and around 34:00 either Ravel or Debussy - and then right into the "Italian Concerto" - my favorite Bach! Wonder who made the musical choices . . . .
Debussy Fille aux cheveux de lin
Debussy - The Girl with the Flaxen Hair. I don't know if I'm placing the caps correctly though...
Thanks much for the posting!!!!!!!!!!!!
Horace O.
Second that! I especially like all the humour in this particular story, I've been chuckling ever since part 1. That bit at the police station is hilarious (starts at 7:08). Poor Inspector MacPherson!
...and the delightful quoting of Shakespeare from MacBeth! One should always quote Shakespeare!! Note the only slightly veiled reference from dialogue in the Petherbridge series, specifically "Gaudy Night" and specifically referring to Aristotle rather than Shakespeare. Would not be my preference.
a lot of the Columbo 'ah, just one thing' as he is leaving ... can be very effective ...
But nobody does it like Columbo :-)
It is effective because many people have let their guard down at that time ... after seeing the back of the inquisitive inspector in charge of the case.
at 27:05 Wimsey looks affectionately at the girl. I think it is the actor recognizing a small flub in the young actress and knowing she has great potential he looks fonder. So dear!
If you mean the woman who plays Fenella Strachan, she's an appallingly and abominably bad actress. And what on earth is a 'flub'?
@@mfjdv2020 Mistake
@@mfjdv2020 she's affected. A girl like that would have been considered a scandalous Kardashian type, or at least trying very hard to be. I thought the actress did a fine job of portraying a type that's been lost to history.
@@texasred2702 Damn straight,she’s great.Pulls off the adolescent aching for adulthood very admirably.🍹A Horse’s neck for the young lady!
@@texasred2702 I agree. She was a young girl trying to act older -- not an unknown phenomenon, especially when faced with an attractive older man! Of course she is very naive, and essentially innocent -- she's all talk. Lady Rose in Downton is a variation of the type. It's teenage rebellion of a sort, bucking at the restrictions placed upon them.
29:52 After just screaming (to her) “Don’t touch lass!” & all the while she was wearing 🧤- next the policeman takes the item, holds it & wait for Wimsey to REMOVE his gloves 🧤 before handing over that particular item 😂 - I’m waiting for the police 👮♀️ to go down for mishandling evidence.
No serious bible student would suggest that there is anything queer about II Samuel 1:26. Even though Jonathan knew that David would eventually have the crown; Jonathan was ever loyal to David. There were several times where Jonathan could have ratted David out..
Yes, and that lovely little hint Mrs. Farren gives is not in the book.
Thanks for that bit of info. I will have my bookseller get me a copy of the book. It will be a great read methinks.
Thanks for that bit of info. I will have my bookseller get me a copy of the book. It will be a great read methinks.
Not much of a "vacation" for Bunter what with all the toting and carrying of water.
I loved the outrage of David Rintoul's character.
Be suspected of murder.
vs.
Be thought not just a greasy gigolo, but a greasy gigolo with NO TASTE.
He doesn't want to be thought a greasy gigolo with such want of standards.
A painting gigolo should have taste! Doesn't want that stain on his prospects. Character be damned.
Think Gauguin - who made such a career out of abusing and infecting the beautiful and guileless.
I'd have been 100% sympathetic to Rintoul's character if he'd have helped the widow to have some later life fun. Yes, she was unbearable to listen to. But - well, let's just say, I don't think it was accidental that the "beautiful" woman was always weaving and spinning - the REAL man eating creature was that Mackintosh mad one. She's even described as "sucking the life" out of her victim.
The widow has some love of life left in her. Good for her.
The murder "mystery" is all a matter of cross referencing timetables. More trainspotting than detecting. Though that's not meant as a criticism. All those lovely unBeechinged branch lines. One could weep.
The real meat is, of course, the characters.
The married couple who claim their marriage is strong because they allow each other "freedom", both of whom turn out to be profoundly jealous and really rather nasty.
The successful painter whose head servants describe their domestic set-up as being "like a family". Yup, an unkind, controlling, gas lighting, lying, cruel family. They're right...just like a real family.
The locals, Scottish locals, who make money from the English tourist incomers, and can't stand them. That's 100% correct in two ways.
I've an American relative, who, when he traveled from Ireland to Scotland, said that he really enjoyed Scotland, as people there were too busy hating the English to get around to hating Americans.
Plus, anyone who has ever lived in a place that has a tourism economy, will recognize the loathing that locals have for their source livelihood.
Sayers did all that stuff so well, and with affection and dry humour, but never blind to reality..
It's one of the reasons I liked Gaudy Night so much. She lived in the academic world, but she didn't let it off the hook. She pointed out the cruelty in the intellectual and social snobbery, the deliberate, relished cruelty. My daughter is currently at uni and she describes very well that world of difference between professors who can critique students' work in a manner which encourages and improves them and their work, and professors who just want to flex & inflate their own egos and do so by humiliating and crushing those young people they're meant to be enlightening and guiding.
Sayers was good at seeing the dark and light and not being overly judgmental.
That's a real quality when writing about murders.
Jolly good!!!!!!
Horace Ovid
Peter's car is beautiful, but how on earth can anyone drive anything like that? With that huge long bonnet and no power steering either. And the rear part of the car's almost as long as the bonnet!
What the older cars do have is better visibility as generally the driver was sitting higher than we do in modern vehicles.
The giant steering wheel has the purpose of making it possible to turn the wheel ... in addition to the rather narrow tyres and low speed.
Interesting that the Bentley is maroon; I've only ever seen the 'teens and 'twenties cars in British racing green. I ran into a flock of them (I should say encountered!) several years in the wilds of my home state, mostly of the vintage of LPW's, and all in green . . . except for a one-off late-model with power everything driven by a member of the club who was no longer strong enough to manage one of the Blowers. All (except the recent model) were drop-tops, and all tops were down - bracing in late October or early November. Wotta sight! I'll never forget it!
Oh, the good old days! Magnificent motor car, and wonderful colour.
Hmmm . . . when Bunter reels off the quote from the bible about Jonathan and David, LPW seems somewhat taken aback . . . or, at least very thoughtful.
Batman and officer relationship. LIke Frodo and Sam. BFF
@@rosiesalas938 Bromance, as they say nowadays. Devoted, but non-sexual, friendship -- enjoyed by many men.
Peter's taken aback because he knows it's not in the book, and wonders at the producers of this series for making such a suggestion.
Playing some of Debussy's Children's Corner at 34:36.
Sayer was not only revelling in the satirical representation of English Society but was not averse to taking a swipe at contemporary and popular authors of her time.
Wilkey Collins was a novelist who wrote Crime Fiction (24:53) who Sayer probably did not respect. Haha.
Wilkie Collins wrote what is accepted as the first detective novel “The Moonstone” in the mid-19th century.
What are you talking about? Sayers wrote crime fiction herself and she greatly admired Wilkie Collins and spent a lot of time writing a biography of him....
Poor Bunter in love with Betty and she in love with him. Sniff.
Bunter isn't a falling in love type of guy....
Bunter isn't in love with Betty!
At best Bunter is in a "bromance" with Lord Peter ... but his first "love" would be his PRIDE in BEING RATHER GOOD AT HIS JOB! The amount of skills he has is rather amazing ... camerawork, painting, the usual FULL knowledge of food and drink and all the domestic skills too ... while having sharp eyes almost like Sherlock Holmes.
Bunter is quite a lady's man....
@@glen7318 That is mentioned throughout the books. There's a reference in The Nine Tailors to some young servant who caught Bunter's eye and Peter says she is too young for him, to which Bunter wistfully concurs.
You have a woman's hair my lord!!
9:19 20:24
Extraordinary attitudes in those days, if the poor widow lady had such difficulty in revealing a perfectly natural circumstance. Nowadays nobody would think anything of it.
Nowadays we are informed of far too much stuff we DON'T want or need to hear instead AND - due to the lack of honour/consequences - people lie a lot. Just look at the media or politicians.
Agree entirely about politicians and journalists, but both these reprehensible groups have been behaving like that for decades. It's nothing new.
Apparently her modesty was due, at least in part, to the fact that her story wasn’t true.
Its not that extraordinary, people did have sexual affairs outside marriage but they kept them discreet... Look at the Duke of Denver's keeping silent about his affair with the farmer's wife...... He did not wnat to damage her reputation as her husband would problaby slit her throat for her if he found out....
Not all change is a positive thing. Decency seems to have disappeared from society, and that’s not a good thing at all.
Terrible voice, that Mrs.Farran
I generally like all the performances in this film, even the slightly hammy ones... but bloody hell, the actress playing Mrs Farran is really jarring. Like she thinks she's in a solo performance
@@st0rmforce She's meant to be an unappealing person: pretentious, affected, prideful. "Our pale Pre-Raphaelite ghost...not our cup of tea!" She is jealous of her husband's friendship with Henry Strachan, which is just the post-pulic-school sort of devoted friendship that seems to have gone out of fashion. She demanded total worship of herself. (Rather puts me in mind of the Duchess of Netflix...)
@@VLind-uk6mb Yes, Farren had to have a reason for running away from her.
LOL Bible Gay Panic