Stumbled on your channel not long ago and I must tell you I'm very envious of your hay. I'm in in northern part of Illinois (roughly 70 miles due west of Chicago, and only here because of managing large equine breeding farms) and I have 20 acres in hay. 7 acres in alfalfa and the rest is grass, red clover (not the biggest fan of for baling) and alfalfa mix. It is now the end of May and I have been wanting to mow hay for the last 2 weeks but between all the rain (over 5 inches so far and low 50 degree days). Grass has headed and 2.5 to 3 ft, alfalfa hasn't started to bloom but tall and large stems. We deal with this almost every spring and summer isn't much better. Heavy morning dew high humidity, very short window to bale. I'm 68 and do it all the old fashioned way, not that I want to. Open tractor, 489 haybine, 336 New Holland small square baler that has a thrower because I can't find kids to buck bales. That way I load wagons by myself and unload them when I can. Getting wimpy as I have cut the weight of bales down to 45 50 lbs. Every year I think this is it for doing hay but still have 8 head of horses left of my own. No longer have to worry about taking care and feeding several hundred head. I know this is a long comment, but just started out to ask you how many pounds of seed per acre do you use? Enjoy your channel.
I’ve baled the rye grass a couple times, it tested 18% protein and 210 rfv…. No body knows what it is and so t pay for it so I feed it to my own livestock and had the biggest lamb crop I’ve ever seen…. Long story short ryegrass is awesome feed
Great video for me to see! Yes, weight on bales critical! Just hauled a load out of Mohawk Valley. 79,790lbs in a dry van. So much different than my days on the farm in NW Minnesota. Small bales, 60-80lbs. Hopefully I'm able to get a load from Bales Hay someday! Appreciate your videos with Zach and Randy that I watch religiously. Thanks again!
I cut a lot of hay with a Massey 36 swather ,no cab, then baled with an AC WD45 pulling a Massey 12 baler. Things sure have changed since I was your age!
It’s insane how much power those wr9970 have. We have a pair of challenger 9770 and those puppies only do like 13-14 mph and you guys are doing like 15-17 in alfalfa that’s crazy. We have a John Deere w260 swather and that thing does like 17mph in alfalfa which is still crazy for the amount of power they have. My favorite swather is the Massey Ferguson ones because the steering is steady on them they aren’t really fidgety and your passes don’t look like you were drinking on the Job if you know what I mean
Trevor. Do you use propianic or lactic acid when you bale as a preservative? I live in Minnesota and used to raise hay for dairy. We used lactic acid as it was easier on cows stomach. Up here in Minnesota, we never worry to much about baling to dry. Hence the need for preservative. Moisture migrates to a degree, from an area of high moisture to an area of low moisture. So the moisture in the nodules will migrate out into the leaf. Also cattle have 4 stomachs. You make a product that we could only dream. Good job. Why lactic acid? It's the same acid found in silage. So a dairyman told me that he preferred our hay because it didn't cost him anything. As soon as he fed our hay, his cows drank more water and consequently gave nore milk. He said that his milk per cow went up at least 50%.. Thank you for the informative video.
about gps: it is nice to let go of the wheel and drink soda untill you have to turn on the headland tho some drivers freewheel anyway because they just like to drive i guess
How do you know it was mine? I’ve never heard of Sun circuit. Lucky! This time of your they stick around 100. When we get 100 degree days, the 90# bales are easier to do.
Cracks open the whole stem, not in a traditional interval pattern like your rolls do like you pointed out in this vlog Hard to put in a % improvement number. That number would be a ghost, because weather is always in charge. Can bank the hay being softer, especially on ranker stems that you seem to prefer. Just my observations.
Do you have any insect problems and what insects give you problems? How many acres are you losing with the dividers in the fields if you did use GPS and could harvest it all?
Days, our goal is not high protein. So we go for tonnage and quality. If it gets too big, the quality goes down. If we cut too early, the tonnage goes down. So we shoot for a good medium. Now, all that being said. Things happen, storms, irrigation, custom harvest opportunities, equipment breaks down. So sometimes we do get behind on the schedule.
Megusta mucho ese invento de la empacado, para no tener que trabajar por la noche👋👋. Puedes comentar más sobre ello, en España no existen esas máquinas.
I bale a fair amount of hay , all in the east. I'm curious, how do keep the green hay from molding? Do you spray a fungicide or is it dryer than the video shows?
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch thanks for the reply. Ever gave any thought to a bale bandit instead of the truck? We are considering one but the cost is pretty big
@@jamesyoung3556 we used one for years. The biggest reduction is speed of the Baler. Two string bales take a lot longer to cover acres. The machine itself worked well as long as the bales were perfectly uniform. The bands did get expensive right before we sold it. Other guys around me use bale Barons since they just use twine to hold it all together.
I was just thinking your fertilizer bill must be crazy with the cost of fertilizer today never mind with the cost of fuel Anybody farming big or small feels the cost of farming May I say OUCH SAY IT AGAIN SAY IT AGAIN OUCH
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch Just thought I would clarify Trevor. Im from wheat country in North Dakota. Didnt mean to get your nose out of "joint" I should have been a comedian instead of a farmer. Anyway, take care. Love the channel, keep doing what your doing!!!!!!
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch As a farm kid who baled actual hay for $2/bale (small ones), ya you betcha. But my beautiful wife has no idea where food comes from so she's ok with it.
Stumbled on your channel not long ago and I must tell you I'm very envious of your hay. I'm in in northern part of Illinois (roughly 70 miles due west of Chicago, and only here because of managing large equine breeding farms) and I have 20 acres in hay. 7 acres in alfalfa and the rest is grass, red clover (not the biggest fan of for baling) and alfalfa mix. It is now the end of May and I have been wanting to mow hay for the last 2 weeks but between all the rain (over 5 inches so far and low 50 degree days). Grass has headed and 2.5 to 3 ft, alfalfa hasn't started to bloom but tall and large stems. We deal with this almost every spring and summer isn't much better. Heavy morning dew high humidity, very short window to bale. I'm 68 and do it all the old fashioned way, not that I want to. Open tractor, 489 haybine, 336 New Holland small square baler that has a thrower because I can't find kids to buck bales. That way I load wagons by myself and unload them when I can. Getting wimpy as I have cut the weight of bales down to 45 50 lbs. Every year I think this is it for doing hay but still have 8 head of horses left of my own. No longer have to worry about taking care and feeding several hundred head. I know this is a long comment, but just started out to ask you how many pounds of seed per acre do you use?
Enjoy your channel.
Thank you!!! Uuggg. I can’t image your headache over there!!!
As to educating us, Top 5 video you have done!
Hmmm, I might have to go hang out in Buckeye for an afternoon, I love the smell of fresh cut hay. That Brian Turner is "outstanding in his field"!
Actually cows have 4 compartments that make up their stomach: the rumen, the reticulum, the omasum and the abomasum.
I just cringe when a non dairy farmer starts talking cows>>>
I'm so glad to know I was correct! I thought I was losing it.
@@josephfortin3807 thats why I rarely talk about cows. And I never claim to know anything about them.
@@stephaniejohnson3341 same the 16 and half stomach joke I was like ok I get your joking but the 3 I was losing it a little
I’ve baled the rye grass a couple times, it tested 18% protein and 210 rfv…. No body knows what it is and so t pay for it so I feed it to my own livestock and had the biggest lamb crop I’ve ever seen…. Long story short ryegrass is awesome feed
Right!!!! No one knows!!
Another great time watching you makes bales
Thank you!!
Awesome video!
Thank you!!
My 1st cutting is always round fathers day...my great grandpa always said A cold wet may fills the barn w/ grain & hay!
I’ve never seen a cold wet may. What is that? Like in a book? Is that fiction?
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch 🤣That CAN be a MI MAY!
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch Northern Wisconsin May. I think the high today was 52⁰.
I was poppin’ off the “that’s what she said” jokes, as Trevor kept saying “These are some big stems”.
Oh man. I drop that line in a few videos lol. So good.
Great video for me to see! Yes, weight on bales critical! Just hauled a load out of Mohawk Valley. 79,790lbs in a dry van. So much different than my days on the farm in NW Minnesota. Small bales, 60-80lbs. Hopefully I'm able to get a load from Bales Hay someday! Appreciate your videos with Zach and Randy that I watch religiously. Thanks again!
Thank you for watching!!
Does anyone else just love the word “Gazeeka”?😂
I cut a lot of hay with a Massey 36 swather ,no cab, then baled with an AC WD45 pulling a Massey 12 baler. Things sure have changed since I was your age!
Thanks for telling me we was riding on top of the mower I got bugs and leaves in my eyes I would have put my googles on to watch
I sure miss getting hay from ya'll.
Aww thanks! We miss you.
Hey Bales!
Hay!!
Good video good content
It’s insane how much power those wr9970 have. We have a pair of challenger 9770 and those puppies only do like 13-14 mph and you guys are doing like 15-17 in alfalfa that’s crazy. We have a John Deere w260 swather and that thing does like 17mph in alfalfa which is still crazy for the amount of power they have. My favorite swather is the Massey Ferguson ones because the steering is steady on them they aren’t really fidgety and your passes don’t look like you were drinking on the Job if you know what I mean
I traded my Deere for 9970 the header Maintance is half alone!
I can agree the header is not that good but the actual tractor the John Deere machine is really reliable
@@brodyburnett3868 agreed!
It's a node dude. 🇬🇸🇱🇷
Dude!! Nodes!!!!!
I'm from Europe, not from this industry but love it! But have to say that I have some land, horses etc but all that as just a hobby :)
Thanks for watching! Feed those horses some nice alfalfa!!!!
Are you guys close to Pala Verda Nuclear Plant? I worked there about 13 years ago. Hello from North Alabama!!
Hi!! Yep, 30 miles or so.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch thanks
Trevor. Do you use propianic or lactic acid when you bale as a preservative? I live in Minnesota and used to raise hay for dairy. We used lactic acid as it was easier on cows stomach. Up here in Minnesota, we never worry to much about baling to dry. Hence the need for preservative. Moisture migrates to a degree, from an area of high moisture to an area of low moisture. So the moisture in the nodules will migrate out into the leaf. Also cattle have 4 stomachs. You make a product that we could only dream. Good job. Why lactic acid? It's the same acid found in silage. So a dairyman told me that he preferred our hay because it didn't cost him anything. As soon as he fed our hay, his cows drank more water and consequently gave nore milk. He said that his milk per cow went up at least 50%.. Thank you for the informative video.
Hey! We don’t use any preservatives at all. Just steam. Lol. I knew cattle had more than two but less than five.
Just thinking back to the 12 foot Hesston sickle mower conditioner thinking that we were getting a lot done at 3 to 4 mph!
Right??!
You guys are the 'Spacemen' of hay making. 🤔😉
Bahahaha. Farm from it!! We’re riding the coat tails of greater men with much smarter minds!
about gps: it is nice to let go of the wheel and drink soda untill you have to turn on the headland tho
some drivers freewheel anyway because they just like to drive i guess
Now as to green dye, remember lots of golf courses improve their fairways with green dye.
I think i bought some of your hay at the sun circuit in Scottsdale they where more than 90lbs 😆
How do you know it was mine? I’ve never heard of Sun circuit. Lucky! This time of your they stick around 100. When we get 100 degree days, the 90# bales are easier to do.
The haybine I ran would do 11mph on the flat road up hill maybe 5mph of course that was 1980 lol.
I've heard of people painting their grass so it stays green all year lol its worth a shot with hay also lol!! 😆 🤣
Time to add green to the steam!!!
Have you ever used the Circle C conditioner rolls?
They may solve some uniformity drying problems.
I think we have 🤷🏻♂️
Cracks open the whole stem, not in a traditional interval pattern like your rolls do like you pointed out in this vlog
Hard to put in a % improvement number. That number would be a ghost, because weather is always in charge.
Can bank the hay being softer, especially on ranker stems that you seem to prefer.
Just my observations.
Do you have any insect problems and what insects give you problems? How many acres are you losing with the dividers in the fields if you did use GPS and could harvest it all?
The dividers aren’t about not using GPS. The dividers are for irrigation. Oh man, weevils, hopper, aphid…
Can you show us how you irrigate the field?
I sure can. You can go back to see previous videos, but I’ll do another one!!!
We called this type of a bailer a Freeman wire tied bailer
What type? The type we’re baling with now? Freeman is a brand. These are Heston.
Trevor, a cow has 4 stomach's 🤣
3, 4, 5… 🤷🏻♂️ who’s counting?
Hey Trevor, I was curious what size of tractor do you use in haying? Always great content.
For which part? Swather? Rake? Baler? Lol.
What determines when you cut the hay? On the dairy farm I grew up on in Iowa we wanted it cut at or before 10% bloom.
Days, our goal is not high protein. So we go for tonnage and quality. If it gets too big, the quality goes down. If we cut too early, the tonnage goes down. So we shoot for a good medium. Now, all that being said. Things happen, storms, irrigation, custom harvest opportunities, equipment breaks down. So sometimes we do get behind on the schedule.
Megusta mucho ese invento de la empacado, para no tener que trabajar por la noche👋👋.
Puedes comentar más sobre ello, en España no existen esas máquinas.
What kind of grass was it on the rotation. I missed you saying what it was.
Rye grass and Sudan grass
How fast are you mowing hay?
15 to 18 mph. Every 25 to 28 days.
Why did Brain put the garbage in the outher swath row
🤷🏻♂️ I don’t remember what part you’re talking about.
Well just before u take a ride with him in the tractor he picked up a pic of garbage in put it in the outher row
Trevor You said 90# and it’s average is 100?
We shoot for 93# but field conditions change rapidly and they can be 100#
And as I watched it you Explained it was Early Hay!🔥💥🌈🌪☀️☀️☀️
do you have issues with wildlife when cutting hay? thanks.
No, we’re in the fields so often, the wildlife stay out.
Cows are actually born with 4 stomach compartments.
I knew it was 3 or 4.
I bale a fair amount of hay , all in the east. I'm curious, how do keep the green hay from molding? Do you spray a fungicide or is it dryer than the video shows?
No preservatives. It’s cured enough. This time of year is questionable. But it gets better.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch thanks for the reply. Ever gave any thought to a bale bandit instead of the truck? We are considering one but the cost is pretty big
@@jamesyoung3556 it wouldn’t work for us. We make 3 tie bales. As far as I know, they don’t do 3 tie. I could be wrong.
@@jamesyoung3556 we used one for years. The biggest reduction is speed of the Baler. Two string bales take a lot longer to cover acres. The machine itself worked well as long as the bales were perfectly uniform. The bands did get expensive right before we sold it. Other guys around me use bale Barons since they just use twine to hold it all together.
@@jamesyoung3556 My cousin had a bale bandit. He found he could only bale at a maximum of 400 bales an hour. A bale baron has a much higher output
Wouldn't mind working for you
No way, you’ll probably slap me!! Hahaha … Will Smith.
What’s that 3 string monster bale model?
1844s
Master baler...I bet he's glad you guys aren't fishermen
...just sayin. Thanks for the great vids. Keep an old man entertained.
Cow have 4.
I was just thinking your fertilizer bill must be crazy with the cost of fertilizer today never mind with the cost of fuel
Anybody farming big or small feels the cost of farming May I say OUCH SAY IT AGAIN SAY IT AGAIN OUCH
Everything is outrageous!!!!
Smells like MONEY!!!
Cows have 4 stomachs.
UA-cam cant handle your good view :'D
Lol. Right!!
GPS would be hands free, less fatigue.
But more $$$
Not the knuckle on the ryegrass. Its the joint
Knuckle, joint. Tomato/tomato.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch Just thought I would clarify Trevor. Im from wheat country in North Dakota. Didnt mean to get your nose out of "joint" I should have been a comedian instead of a farmer. Anyway, take care. Love the channel, keep doing what your doing!!!!!!
@@dness3673 In the Uk we call them nodes.
@@dness3673 lol didn’t bother me at all!! You see my personality on video, you think it bothered my nose?
@@bobwest2807 we probably call it that here too. I just don’t pay attention.
AC and heat, bluetooth stereos, phones, ipads, GPS, tv, power steering, auto pilot, computers, monitors, wow I can't list everything. TO MAKE HAY?
Yup. Impossible to do without Bluetooth.
A cow has four stomachs
You win some, you lose some.
Cow has 4 stomachs
I knew it was 3 or 4. I was close.
You joke about that green dye, but we buy western Timothy for our guinea pigs and that stuff is died green. Not even bailed just stuffed into a bag.
Really?!? Do you feel taken advantage Of??
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch As a farm kid who baled actual hay for $2/bale (small ones), ya you betcha. But my beautiful wife has no idea where food comes from so she's ok with it.
@@baldmaggots lol.
Trevor wouldn’t be nice to have auto steer on your conditioners I’ll bet your workers would appreciate it
With our dirt borders, it could potentially cause more problems. If they don’t line up right, he could mess a lot up.
And, I already do A LOT for my employees.
Cows have 4 stomach not 3
🤷🏻♂️ not a vet.
I learned that back in high school over 30years ago you are smarter then a vet they would not know how to bale hay