Can people shut up with "this is not black" and "not even a blue in xxx". Its simply not true. Almost all ski resort rate the slopes the same way now a days. The US or Canada does not have some special rating format where everything under 45 degrees is blue. Having skied both in Europe, the us, Canada and Japan there is barely a difference. Even though this run has some flat zones it has some very difficult parts. Therefore it naturally has to be black.
Exactly. If there is an unavoidable part which is steep enough to be classified as "black", then the whole run needs to be classified as "black" to warn the skiers.
@@braddugas9809 nah have skied there too only that one black run is special(can't remember the name but the one where there basically is a free fall at one point). That would probably just be off piste in France but the rest of the resort is the same as every other place.
Strong legs ! Btw: 7:24 I love all the idiots standing or sitting in a row on or sitting just behind an edge of some steep or unclear parts of the slope.
At 1:34 is a reminder to ALL skiers, to not tackle a run of which your skill level is not ready for. I wish that skier a full recovery. As for the run, far to scary for me, and I doubt they were 'beginners', more like intermediate skiers.
I did it a few years ago. No way it's 16km, more like 10km. Only a black run due to the length, more like a challenging blue really. Fabulous if you get the right ski conditions, we went at Easter, were lucky as still lots of snow but got a bit slushy later in the day.
It's exactly 8.8 kilometers, and a vertical drop of 1650 meters, of which 300 meters vertical and 3000 meters horizontal distance are relatively flat roads. Not that special in the alps. Of course the french are massively exaggerating for marketing purposes.
@@christianmartinek2843 on this run it is important you keep your speed, otherwise you will end up skating for several kilometers at the end. Then you would find the video slow and boring and you would also complain about that “you idiot, you didnt maintain your speed and ended up skating”
@@TheCreditShifu wrong!! There are some rules when you're skiing, everybody should know!! When you reach some other skiers and you have to cross the same slope you have to hold back!! Always!! Does'nt matter if the other one is slower than you!! This are the rules and you learn it already as a kid⛷️😉🍺
@@lucymooch5821 it is like that because like he mentions its the afternoon and a popular run. Having done this run many times i can say that they are moguls so it isnt an icy run just depends on time of day and how many moguls are created
Die Abfahrt vom Weißfluhjoch übern Gotschna, Klosters ,Serneus bis nach Kublis ist nicht nur anspruchsvoller, sondern auch länger! Nicht oft zu fahren - oben meist ( eingefahrener ´)Tiefschnee - zurück gehts mit der Rhätischen Bahn nach Davos, "dawos" auch losgeht!
The run down from Weißfluhjoch/Davos cross Gotschna, KLosters, Zerneus to Küblis ia harder und longer - 26km. On the top mostly deep powder - with the Rhätische Bahn ( railway) you go back to Davos. Sarenne is also fine, but definitely not a black run! Sorry!
holy shit you ski fast!! You got town 16K in about 10 miles in about 12 minutes??? That's an average of 50 mph!! (to the flat part I am counting.. if that's the whole 10 miles..)
That’s the most boring, chaotic run I’ve ever watched. Straight ice and Jerry’s everywhere. Also I’ve been snowboarding for ten years and never understood the problem with telling someone you’re going to pass them on a cat track. Just because you’re in front and are going slow as fuck doesn’t mean you get to cause a traffic jam on the mountain. I’m aware that the people down hill have the right of way but that doesn’t mean you take the WHOLE way and be an asshole. Having the right of way doesn’t give you free reign to do as you please. Weather your down hill or uphill from people you should always be aware of your surroundings and courteous of other riders.
Wow aren’t I lucky I didn’t hit anyone! But no I can assure you I skied this run perfectly in control, I’m using the GoPro chest mount though, which gives a more disorientating perspective than the helmet mount.
This blacker than Eminem but clearly not as black as James Brown... Just kidding.. I'm new to skiing and I enjoyed watching this. Thanks for the upload.
Vallee Blanche in Chamonix is technically off piste, so not really comparable, we are talking about the longest marked run. I would love to go try it though!
Well the run is 16km, if you cut out the part on the lift at the beginning and the standing, talking at the end, you get about 16 mins. But whatever, it’s not a world championship or anything, so just take it as whatever.
@@skiwithgenerationsnow It's actually 8km but they add a fugdge factor because you go left and right so they say it's double the distance. I'm going to do the run in the coming 2 weeks, also they have a challenge called "Chacun son Everest challenge" doing 8000 vertical meters which you can get a certificate for.
@@skiwithgenerationsnow This run is not 16km. The fact you really think this is 16 km gives away that you have no clue about distances whatsoever. The distance that you skied between bergstation "glacier lift" and bottomstation "Chalvet" lift is exactly 8.8 kilometers, of which at least 3 kilometers and 300 meters veritcal drop are relatively flat roads. The total vertical drop from top lift to bottom lift is exactly 1650 meters, not "over 2000 meters" Over all this is not such a spectacular slope at all. There are much more exciting ski slopes in the European Alps. For example the Hochjoch Totale in Austria, which makes a vertical drop of 1731 meters, without boring flat roads. So to make clear, your average speed was FAR FAR FAR lower than 60 km/h. I saw this video and i thought Thats not even close to 2000 meters vertical raise, 16km distance and andaverage speed of 60kmh. Turned out i was right. Nice video nonetheless!
I think you just don’t really get how the perspective on a go pro looks different to real life. When other people are on the side of the screen they get stretched (wide angle lens) so they look closer than they are
@@skiwithgenerationsnow people that ski faster than everyone else might seem like they're out of control, but I can fully understand your perspectives, because I pass almost everyone on the hill too.. me amy family are always the fastest ones on the hills. You get good at going around people!
The problem is that when you ski fast close to a begginer or even an intermediate, they are afraid and can loose control themselves, or get " paralyzed" and don't appreciate their run down. Sarenne isn't a really difficult slope, apart from the beginning and the length, so intermediates can really enjoy skiing there ; that why experts should take care.
But snow isn't always the same there ! Are you practising ski ? And it's not a real black run, except for the biggining and the length. People don't go there to show off saying that they have done a black, as there are others which are much more difficult in Alpe d'Huez, like "Le tunnel" or "Les balcons". They like the beautiful scenery all the way down and the charming torrent at the end, they appreciate the distance from the others equipments of the resort that make you feel like being in pure nature, they like having lunch on the rocks trying to spot "chamois"... A little poetry in this world of bullies...
srs? u know how big is the diference between real end on camera? the speed is like at the half end the steepness the same end he have the go pro on his mounth that make him looks like a beginer because u see the arm so often. He is not a beginer is more like more a little bit more than an intermediate.
What's with all the helmetless, hatless, barely able to ski boomers?... One in a blue coat at the top and one in a yellow coat shortly after the run begins.
You can do it carefully and warn the person you are passing. On those cat tracks you dont want to slowdown, or you end up skating. So its good to warn people as you pass just incase they turn unexpectedly, so you dont have to slow down to avoid them if that happens.
@@skiwithgenerationsnow The usual courtesy is ''on your right'', ''on your left'' but it's still your responsibility as the passing party to do things safely. Or at least that's how things are done in powder country in the western US. ;-) ETA; à ta gauche, and à ta droite in French for left and right
@@rickden8362 yeah this is France, most people don’t speak English, they are from all over Europe, so just making any sound to alert them is better than nothing. But yeah one your right on your left works for English speaking countries.
Sorry not a black run! Not even close. This is barely a blue run here in Colorado. I wouldn’t even call these ‘bumps’. You want bumps head to Mary Jane! Epic moguls!!
Everyone loves to say their on home resort has the hardest runs. hehe But yeah, most of this slope is not black, but as you are a skier I am sure you know that runs are graded for their hardest section (if there is no way off the run once you are on it). So longest black run in Europe yes, great views, yes, hardest black run in Europe, no.
![[4K] Skiing Alpe d'Huez, La Sarenne - From Marmottes 3 to Lombards (Only 8 KM), France, GoPro HERO11](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/GrJPq19loeg/mqdefault.jpg)
Can people shut up with "this is not black" and "not even a blue in xxx". Its simply not true. Almost all ski resort rate the slopes the same way now a days. The US or Canada does not have some special rating format where everything under 45 degrees is blue. Having skied both in Europe, the us, Canada and Japan there is barely a difference. Even though this run has some flat zones it has some very difficult parts. Therefore it naturally has to be black.
I also feel like videos cant really capture the steepness that well.
Exactly. If there is an unavoidable part which is steep enough to be classified as "black", then the whole run needs to be classified as "black" to warn the skiers.
Except for Jackson Hole… that place is a whole different beast
@@braddugas9809 nah have skied there too only that one black run is special(can't remember the name but the one where there basically is a free fall at one point). That would probably just be off piste in France but the rest of the resort is the same as every other place.
@@victorkramp4970 you mean the Tunnel run
It was lovely feeling almost like I was skiing in perect conditions without someone adding music! You don't seem to enjoy moguls much ;-)
I like to think I would ski as well as you did. Nicely done! Also Thanks for sharing!
My quads are on fire just watching this, lol. Beautiful skiing, thanks for sharing.
I dont get the negative comments. Looked totally in control. Thanks for sharing.
Did this run myself in 2018, amazing views 👍🏻
Looks great, i hope to go there next winter !
Strong legs !
Btw: 7:24 I love all the idiots standing or sitting in a row on or sitting just behind an edge of some steep or unclear parts of the slope.
I know right. That shit annoys me so much
There is something sure, you have legs and cardio!!! Respect
Remember binding on one of my skis broke at 1.30 part 😅. Had to slide down the side to get to chair lift..😅. Will get back to it again!
Anyone else notice that part around 2:00 where if you missed the turn you’d go down what looked like 70 degrees angle
No
no way that's 70 degrees, maybe 45 at best.
Great video. How did you record this please? Which camera and where was it mounted? Thanks!
7:24 what are they demonstraiting for? i can't see any banners.
At 1:34 is a reminder to ALL skiers, to not tackle a run of which your skill level is not ready for. I wish that skier a full recovery. As for the run, far to scary for me, and I doubt they were 'beginners', more like intermediate skiers.
Thanks for sharing this video. Looks like the French didn't bother to groom this run since the middle ages !
I did it a few years ago. No way it's 16km, more like 10km. Only a black run due to the length, more like a challenging blue really. Fabulous if you get the right ski conditions, we went at Easter, were lucky as still lots of snow but got a bit slushy later in the day.
It's exactly 8.8 kilometers, and a vertical drop of 1650 meters, of which 300 meters vertical and 3000 meters horizontal distance are relatively flat roads. Not that special in the alps. Of course the french are massively exaggerating for marketing purposes.
Why did you not start at the start? Why the lift Herpie, not Pic Blanc?
lift lines
Wow that's beautiful place. Your knees must be made of steel lol I ski for 10 minutes and my legs give up haha
Yeah normally most people take breaks going down this, stop and look at the view, but since its for a video i had to do it in one push
It’s a great run. Not technical but a lovely long run down.
You don't say "Watch out" to skiers below you. You avoid them. Your responsibility.
Watch out also works, especially on a narrow section
I say “on your left/right”
@@TheCreditShifu no it does'nt work that way!!
Learn the rules!!
@@christianmartinek2843 on this run it is important you keep your speed, otherwise you will end up skating for several kilometers at the end. Then you would find the video slow and boring and you would also complain about that “you idiot, you didnt maintain your speed and ended up skating”
@@TheCreditShifu wrong!!
There are some rules when you're skiing, everybody should know!!
When you reach some other skiers and you have to cross the same slope you have to hold back!! Always!!
Does'nt matter if the other one is slower than you!! This are the rules and you learn it already as a kid⛷️😉🍺
beautiful. great view
It sounds like it was an icy run most the way, yes?
packed powder yes, icy, no
@@skiwithgenerationsnow Hmmmm, must have had the microphone in between 2 grinding biscuit tins then.
@@lucymooch5821 it is like that because like he mentions its the afternoon and a popular run. Having done this run many times i can say that they are moguls so it isnt an icy run just depends on time of day and how many moguls are created
Sounds like its not had much snow for a while, reminds me of concrete peak in NZ. ( Thats Coronet peak to the local non skiers.)
Ah its a high peak in the Alps, they are almost always like that
There’s more traffic on those slopes than there is on the freeway at quitting time.
Hey, Great Vid!! What Camera are you using in this video?
Gopro 7
What camera do you use ???
GoPro 7
great job
Thanks for this. Good job dodging the slow pokes.
Rude
@@sapling6536 how is that rude?????
@@danielprice4004 I was just saying it’s rude to call beginners slow pokes
@@sapling6536 there's nothing wrong with being slower
ma viene battuta quella pista?
Sentiero battuto? Ho provato a tradurlo, ma non l'ho capito. Scusa.
Die Abfahrt vom Weißfluhjoch übern Gotschna, Klosters ,Serneus bis nach Kublis ist nicht nur anspruchsvoller, sondern auch länger! Nicht oft zu fahren - oben meist ( eingefahrener ´)Tiefschnee - zurück gehts mit der Rhätischen Bahn nach Davos, "dawos" auch losgeht!
is it hard to ski like this?
no
The run down from Weißfluhjoch/Davos cross Gotschna, KLosters, Zerneus to Küblis ia harder und longer - 26km. On the top mostly deep powder - with the Rhätische Bahn ( railway) you go back to Davos. Sarenne is also fine, but definitely not a black run! Sorry!
Is this a black one?
holy shit you ski fast!! You got town 16K in about 10 miles in about 12 minutes??? That's an average of 50 mph!! (to the flat part I am counting.. if that's the whole 10 miles..)
This is not 16 km. It's exactly 8.8 KM, of which at least 3 km are relatively flat roads. His average speed is FAR FAR lower than that.
The comments did not pass the vibe check...
POV: U remember this place from Megaavalanche
i done that 2 times and it is fun but long
Завжди дивувався людям, що багато балакають. Їдь мочки. Любуйся горами.
Beautiful views and long indeed but NO WAY that's black. That's 80% blue, 10% green and only 10% black.
Correct, something like that. But you cant get off it once you are on it, so the whole thing has to be black until it intersects an easier slope
10% black means black, if 1% is black the whole run is marked as black, that's how it works.
That’s the most boring, chaotic run I’ve ever watched. Straight ice and Jerry’s everywhere. Also I’ve been snowboarding for ten years and never understood the problem with telling someone you’re going to pass them on a cat track. Just because you’re in front and are going slow as fuck doesn’t mean you get to cause a traffic jam on the mountain. I’m aware that the people down hill have the right of way but that doesn’t mean you take the WHOLE way and be an asshole. Having the right of way doesn’t give you free reign to do as you please. Weather your down hill or uphill from people you should always be aware of your surroundings and courteous of other riders.
Don’t think that’s ice, just the snow that’s left over after everyone’s slid sideways down the piste
Buddy, majority of the time you were out of control. I'm surprised you didn't hit anybody on your way down.
LOL
Wow aren’t I lucky I didn’t hit anyone! But no I can assure you I skied this run perfectly in control, I’m using the GoPro chest mount though, which gives a more disorientating perspective than the helmet mount.
Better stick to Greens Kooch 😉
@@aletavanvuuren5748 Yeah ok whatever. You must be the same level of skier too.
@@TheCreditShifu You seemed in control. :)
This blacker than Eminem but clearly not as black as James Brown...
Just kidding.. I'm new to skiing and I enjoyed watching this. Thanks for the upload.
Haha, its defiantly blacker than eminem
*not the longest run in the world, there is a 22km run in chamonix
Vallee Blanche in Chamonix is technically off piste, so not really comparable, we are talking about the longest marked run. I would love to go try it though!
I have newer seen pistes in so bad condition. I wont ever go there to ski.
To make your claim you need to metric information on the video. The top part was fairly bumpy... no way you were averaging 60kmh.
Well the run is 16km, if you cut out the part on the lift at the beginning and the standing, talking at the end, you get about 16 mins. But whatever, it’s not a world championship or anything, so just take it as whatever.
@@skiwithgenerationsnow It's actually 8km but they add a fugdge factor because you go left and right so they say it's double the distance.
I'm going to do the run in the coming 2 weeks, also they have a challenge called "Chacun son Everest challenge" doing 8000 vertical meters which you can get a certificate for.
ordiantakeover thanks for the info, it really doesn’t feel like 16km, so that makes sense
Just realized I’m commenting using my other account, but this is Ben from Generation Snow
@@skiwithgenerationsnow This run is not 16km. The fact you really think this is 16 km gives away that you have no clue about distances whatsoever. The distance that you skied between bergstation "glacier lift" and bottomstation "Chalvet" lift is exactly 8.8 kilometers, of which at least 3 kilometers and 300 meters veritcal drop are relatively flat roads. The total vertical drop from top lift to bottom lift is exactly 1650 meters, not "over 2000 meters" Over all this is not such a spectacular slope at all. There are much more exciting ski slopes in the European Alps. For example the Hochjoch Totale in Austria, which makes a vertical drop of 1731 meters, without boring flat roads.
So to make clear, your average speed was FAR FAR FAR lower than 60 km/h. I saw this video and i thought Thats not even close to 2000 meters vertical raise, 16km distance and andaverage speed of 60kmh. Turned out i was right. Nice video nonetheless!
you need to show more respect to the skiers on th episte - you are not in control and a danger to them.
I think you just don’t really get how the perspective on a go pro looks different to real life. When other people are on the side of the screen they get stretched (wide angle lens) so they look closer than they are
@@skiwithgenerationsnow people that ski faster than everyone else might seem like they're out of control, but I can fully understand your perspectives, because I pass almost everyone on the hill too.. me amy family are always the fastest ones on the hills. You get good at going around people!
The problem is that when you ski fast close to a begginer or even an intermediate, they are afraid and can loose control themselves, or get " paralyzed" and don't appreciate their run down. Sarenne isn't a really difficult slope, apart from the beginning and the length, so intermediates can really enjoy skiing there ; that why experts should take care.
kinda cool i guess, but didnt look black to me. more like blue/red
That's not a black run.
If it is a black one? Doubtfully
Definitely a nice blue slope for babies.
🤣👶
Too many beginners out there and not great snow. I see no interest in that. Why do skiers insist on doing blacks just to say they did?
But snow isn't always the same there ! Are you practising ski ? And it's not a real black run, except for the biggining and the length. People don't go there to show off saying that they have done a black, as there are others which are much more difficult in Alpe d'Huez, like "Le tunnel" or "Les balcons".
They like the beautiful scenery all the way down and the charming torrent at the end, they appreciate the distance from the others equipments of the resort that make you feel like being in pure nature, they like having lunch on the rocks trying to spot "chamois"...
A little poetry in this world of bullies...
It seems that European ski resorts are fairly liberal to designating their runs.
this is not black but very beautyfull nonetheless...
looks like ur a beginner
srs? u know how big is the diference between real end on camera? the speed is like at the half end the steepness the same end he have the go pro on his mounth that make him looks like a beginer because u see the arm so often. He is not a beginer is more like more a little bit more than an intermediate.
Yeah it is chest mount, I’m going to use hermit mount or karma grip in the hand in future
That is a blue run
That is a blue run all day!
No thanks :)
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What's with all the helmetless, hatless, barely able to ski boomers?... One in a blue coat at the top and one in a yellow coat shortly after the run begins.
Note on ski etiquette: When you're overtaking, it's your responsibility to do it carefully...not go ''beep, beep''. Amateur, uncool move.
You can do it carefully and warn the person you are passing. On those cat tracks you dont want to slowdown, or you end up skating. So its good to warn people as you pass just incase they turn unexpectedly, so you dont have to slow down to avoid them if that happens.
@@skiwithgenerationsnow The usual courtesy is ''on your right'', ''on your left'' but it's still your responsibility as the passing party to do things safely. Or at least that's how things are done in powder country in the western US. ;-)
ETA; à ta gauche, and à ta droite in French for left and right
@@rickden8362 yeah this is France, most people don’t speak English, they are from all over Europe, so just making any sound to alert them is better than nothing. But yeah one your right on your left works for English speaking countries.
@@skiwithgenerationsnow everyone in Europe speaks English, at least to some extent
That was painful to watch lol so slow
Weight is not forward, hand position is terrible! I’d be embarrassed to post this to claim in was a black run! Terrible !
Your grammar is also embarrassing, just throwing that out there lol
Black run ??? 😂😂😂😂
everything looks easier on gopro. There are no steep black runs, not really at least.
Some sections in a run may be blacks but I think they grade a run to the hardest slope before a turn off option so people don’t do a slope too hard
Sorry not a black run! Not even close. This is barely a blue run here in Colorado. I wouldn’t even call these ‘bumps’. You want bumps head to Mary Jane! Epic moguls!!
Everyone loves to say their on home resort has the hardest runs. hehe But yeah, most of this slope is not black, but as you are a skier I am sure you know that runs are graded for their hardest section (if there is no way off the run once you are on it). So longest black run in Europe yes, great views, yes, hardest black run in Europe, no.